SNEAKO - February 22, 2023


SNEAKO Interview With Dylan Madden in Dubai - The Real World


Episode Stats

Length

33 minutes

Words per Minute

234.59918

Word Count

7,930

Sentence Count

5

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

16


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 welcome back to the dylan madden show my name is dylan madden i'm sitting down with the legend
00:00:06.680 of youtube sneeko what's going on bro the legend of rumble now i mean yeah that kind of does make
00:00:12.120 me uh a legend you know it's cool to be banned right yeah i was talking to justin waller and
00:00:17.280 he was like oh someone just took down my instagram which is a bunch of kids trying to
00:00:20.060 spam me i wish i could say it was the matrix it is kind of fun to be like yeah the matrix took me
00:00:24.060 out and you know it makes it gives it a level of like oh what's going on cool yeah there's some
00:00:28.200 mystery behind it but it's great to finally do this in dubai great view likewise bro uh thanks
00:00:33.800 to shooter for letting us shoot it at his at his house yeah so one question most people everybody
00:00:39.840 they see people like you and they're like i want to be a content creator and they get on their phone
00:00:44.320 they start doing all the weird shit and all that like how can you actually be interesting without
00:00:49.020 just being like stereotypical clown world person so how can you be interesting and generate influence
00:00:54.300 because like you the influence you have is like it's inspiring so for the average person how can
00:00:58.680 they start getting into the whole youtube game rumble game instagram whatever create content in an
00:01:03.440 interesting and entertaining way yeah but maintain their own sense of truth it's interesting to see
00:01:07.980 now because a lot of guys like you i would call yourself a digital nomad and people who are really
00:01:15.380 business savvy and add a lot of value to the world they want to be able to go and share that and get
00:01:20.080 into content creation i've seen a big shift i've been doing content for 10 years now it's been a
00:01:25.140 decade i'm young i'm 24 and i've been doing it for a long time but i've seen like this new democrat
00:01:29.500 like guys like you uh want to get into the space and want to do this and i think that yeah i think
00:01:34.280 you're going about it the right way yeah i think the best way to have longevity and i was talking about
00:01:38.320 this with myron uh shout out to myron for producing the show behind the scenes he was saying
00:01:42.520 you guys okay fuck the producer we don't swear here there's a mosque right here this is a peaceful
00:01:47.200 place i don't know i love everyone personally but the way to do it is to add value i and i think
00:01:53.600 that's the best way to go about it of course you need to be entertaining myron for example is a
00:01:58.260 little bit like cop autistic he's setting it up like an interrogation room very to the point matter
00:02:02.720 of fact everything is like this is the way the wage gap feminism and it's good because he's adding
00:02:06.900 value he's telling you the truth about about the world but you need to have a little bit of
00:02:10.860 personality there needs to be something genuine about it a lot of people in gen z they they like the
00:02:15.780 relaxed feeling they want to see something real and if you can be genuine in a world because
00:02:19.840 everything on social media is a lie instagram is just 100 lies so if you can be yourself in front
00:02:27.180 of the camera and not have to really put on a persona and also add value to people's lives and
00:02:31.840 be interesting and have something to share and people will benefit after watching something that
00:02:36.480 you've done you will be able to to last forever but the people who are just doing cornball stuff the
00:02:40.800 people who are just acting the people who are just there to be a spectacle and be a show and to be
00:02:45.560 something to look to be looked at it's not going to last and you're going to crash out yeah so like
00:02:52.220 for me as an example i'm i'm starting to kind of go towards the influencer route like for the longest
00:02:57.420 time i've been doing like value value value here's how you make money online here's how you close
00:03:01.400 clients and i started watching you and even like obviously myron and fresh and stuff and andrew
00:03:06.880 andrew tate like okay i think i need to add a little bit more entertainment value and for me i've
00:03:12.660 started finding my own way to do it without being like a persona so that actually leads me to what
00:03:18.100 goes through your mind whenever you're creating content like for me it's like how can i generate
00:03:22.820 like example i've been talking about or comparing islam to christianity little things like that
00:03:26.880 because i'm actually studying the quran right now and i've been a long time christian so i'm finding
00:03:31.800 things that are actually authentic to me to be entertaining but for you like what goes through
00:03:36.260 your mind and you're creating content like i already know because we've been hanging out the last few
00:03:39.280 days but like for the viewer what goes through your mind whenever you're writing your tweets because i
00:03:42.900 love your twitter or whenever you sit down to make videos or something like that it's at this point
00:03:47.340 where i was really realizing that uh in the moss just now i went with shooter and someone else i'm
00:03:53.100 not sure if i'm able to say but we went in there and i was thinking a lot about how much my brain is
00:03:59.140 tied into social media it's pretty much one it's i've treated it like a diary for so long i've been
00:04:05.000 i've grown up online my life is this yeah i go back and forth and myron's like you haven't really
00:04:10.300 had a real job yeah i've had real jobs i've worked uber eats i've worked at subway i've worked as an
00:04:14.960 office temp i worked as a secretary i did freelance photography yeah i worked i did oh that was in
00:04:20.040 college yeah yeah i had these um simple jobs back but i didn't really work that long yeah and so but
00:04:25.000 ultimately this this has been my life has been social media that i realized thinking because it can make
00:04:30.980 you there's it's a crazy world it's a crazy place there's a lot of nonsense there's a lot of
00:04:35.420 uh satan satanism online it really encourages a bunch of negative behavior and i was standing in
00:04:42.020 there and one thing i realized is i always pick my fingernails i'm always peeling the cuticles
00:04:47.020 around my skin because i'm always thinking about like what people are going to say what are people
00:04:49.760 saying now how do i get to the next content how do i say something that's going to be interesting
00:04:53.620 and different i'm always thinking about the future it's hard for me to be in the present because
00:04:57.060 i'm always because of how much it's it's been tied into comments and reactions and what's next
00:05:02.480 and coming but i was standing in the mosque my hands were like this just here and i was very aware
00:05:07.060 of being in the present moment so i think part of the reason why i don't have to even think about
00:05:13.520 it that much is because it's just my brain is one with the internet so on twitter it's like i know
00:05:18.900 what's going to go viral because i've been doing it for so long when i stream i stream for five hours a
00:05:23.180 night i go serious five hours a night 8 p.m every single day rumble.com slash nico turn on the
00:05:27.900 camera me my camera go boom and i sometimes spend like 20 30 minutes trying to figure out what i'm
00:05:33.140 going to do but i mean this has been for the past seven months i did cinematic videos street interviews
00:05:37.600 i've done so many different types of content but for the past seven months it's been boom i'm going to
00:05:42.240 go entertain a crowd of thousands of people for five hours what do you got what are you going to do
00:05:47.180 and you you build those skills like when you do it over and over again you need to be
00:05:50.940 you have to add value it needs to be funny it's got to be interesting it's got to be different
00:05:54.360 there's got to be react it's got to be current it's got to tie into stuff that's going on now
00:05:59.500 it has to be unique there's a lot of different things uh but i think the biggest thing is to
00:06:03.460 lead with high energy that's why i like trump so much compared to the other ones trump you know he
00:06:08.960 he shifted a lot after 2015 but one of the big reasons why that 2015 2016 campaign was so much fun
00:06:14.100 was it was like i'm high energy he was calling jeb bush you're low energy and it was funny he's on the
00:06:19.780 debate stage and you were just every time the camera go on him wrong you always had a punchline
00:06:24.680 ready to go everyone else is robotic and then you saw like marco rubio and the other politicians
00:06:28.960 trying to adopt some of that strategy become entertaining and it's just it doesn't it doesn't
00:06:33.300 hit like 2015 it was high energy and then you go to a trump rally even then i wasn't even that in
00:06:38.500 tune with conservative talking points and the republican party all that i liked the trump rally so much
00:06:43.900 because it was just fun we would just all be lock her up like yeah lock her up let's go like a
00:06:49.600 feminist would show up with a big sign you know fat feminist she'd be like and then she would get
00:06:54.340 kicked out by the cops and everyone go boo bye it's just it had that biden can't do that so
00:07:00.380 i i like the fact that if i'm not being entertained if there isn't high energy if you're not connecting
00:07:06.860 with the audience then i don't think there's anything there it needs that so i mean what would you say
00:07:11.560 because like for me i'm still on youtube thanks be to god we'll see maybe i'll move over to rumble
00:07:16.360 but what would you say for the person that sees people like you going out there and actually
00:07:20.340 spreading the truth and being entertaining and all that type of stuff and they see people like me
00:07:24.840 they're like adding value in a certain type of way around freelancing they're like okay i want to start
00:07:28.820 creating content but i'm worried about being banned so instead i'm not going to talk about certain
00:07:32.240 things how would you create a brand whether it's on twitter whether it's on rumble youtube instagram
00:07:37.220 create a brand that actually aligns with your truth because what what's the you have a quote
00:07:41.540 yes how would you do that in like 2023 with everything that's going on i know they're
00:07:46.980 moving into like ai is the future and all this type of stuff but how would you build a brand in
00:07:51.380 a way that you can actually monetize it live off it without having to worry about like losing your
00:07:56.500 entire livelihood just i think you're doing it the perfect way yeah i think you're doing it the
00:07:59.780 perfect way where uh everything that you all the stuff that you put out there ties into exactly what
00:08:05.840 you're saying uh you're helping people out it ties into your work outside of content creation i i was
00:08:12.820 talking to to shooter about that i think the best way to go is to not even prioritize content especially
00:08:18.180 for young guys i think that there needs to be you need to have real life experience you need to be
00:08:22.820 in the world because or if you're just a social media guy what are you going to talk about i haven't
00:08:27.280 been streaming for since i came to dubai because and i've been quiet a lot of time i'm talking to
00:08:31.840 people a lot older i'm just trying to take it all in i'm trying to learn more i'm trying to
00:08:35.400 experience a different culture of course i've never even been to the middle east before i've
00:08:38.540 never stepped in a mosque like really and prayed like that before i am i'm always trying to to take
00:08:43.940 in new information and experience new cultures so that i have something to talk about on stream if i'm
00:08:48.460 just going to turn on it for five hours every night like okay what like after like two days it's old
00:08:53.440 yeah so i think that you need to it's good to have different businesses it's good to to have
00:08:59.140 something else you know and i noticed that with a lot of like vloggers that i used to be around in
00:09:03.220 new york city is that they'll be like they're still making day day in my life videos every day
00:09:08.180 it's like so what is your your your day is making day in your life videos that's what you do is make
00:09:14.120 more your morning routine is making a morning routine video it's stupid so you need to have
00:09:17.940 something external and or else you're just making content about nothing right you need to be outside you
00:09:22.440 need to be in the real world which is which is where you are yeah and i have a question for you
00:09:26.440 yeah i'm wondering what is the the biggest mindset change that you learned from andrew and tristan
00:09:34.160 obviously i think you spend more time with andrew but what's the biggest mindset mindset shift because
00:09:38.140 you can see it and in the way that you carry yourself you're very uh purpose-driven yeah and
00:09:43.740 direct uh what was something that he said that changed your your mindset well it actually started
00:09:47.540 the very first time we met up in dc i kept noticing he was using the word conscious i consciously do
00:09:52.460 this i consciously do that and for whatever reason that really stuck with me i know that sounds
00:09:56.300 weird but i was like i could be like conscious of every single thing i do like and i asked him
00:10:02.340 about it and he's like yeah from the way i dress the way i grab my cup of water everything i do is
00:10:07.300 conscious i don't just randomly go through life doing anything and for me personally that first little
00:10:12.840 thing was like super it changed it just flipped something in my mind because i sort of i realized
00:10:17.620 because he's really big on self-reflection and analyzing yourself i realized that so much what i was
00:10:22.620 doing was just based off because well that's what i've always done and like there i was always that
00:10:26.880 weird kid that i didn't like i didn't want to fit into the mold i always wanted to be a businessman i
00:10:32.160 wanted i didn't like being told what to do so i was already on the path but then i started realizing
00:10:36.080 oh wait i can actually be conscious of everything i'm doing like an intentional it was little things
00:10:41.420 like that and then another story we were going to be launching some uh new company together and he
00:10:47.260 wanted i was this i was brand new to copywriting at the time and i was like okay we need to have
00:10:51.440 a perfect funnel set up we have to have all the emails set up we have to test the product we have
00:10:55.280 to do this we have to do this it's like no i want to have by first thing in the morning when i wake up
00:11:00.080 because i was always the guy first one up last one to go to bed he was like i want to have some basic
00:11:04.800 page some emails done let's fucking launch it i was like oh god i stayed up all night i was so anxious
00:11:10.780 i didn't even sleep that night and then we launched it and it was one of at the time it was one of my
00:11:14.980 biggest like successes as far as like some of the stuff we were working on and that taught me
00:11:19.120 that all you have to do is you don't have to sit there and like be autistic about like getting the
00:11:23.560 the funnels just perfectly the email is perfect all this it's just speed like we literally put i put
00:11:29.720 together it was like a click do you know what click funnels is uh explain it click funnels for
00:11:34.440 all the people that are watching this it's basically just a really easy way to put together
00:11:37.580 landing pages sales pages funnels all that type of stuff so i sat there so funnels into the buy
00:11:43.860 button yeah yeah exactly so and i think there's better things than click funnels i still use
00:11:48.400 click funnels because i've literally made thousands of click funnel pages uh but you can set up super
00:11:53.480 easy web pages where you can go through it's all fancy then click all the cool buttons all that type
00:11:58.480 of stuff you can custom code it and shit but anyways i set that up it was like a headline a few little
00:12:04.980 pieces of copy and a button that's all i had because i'd spent all night i was like okay the emails
00:12:09.800 were the most reported i was just typing them up okay okay and we launched it and i can't i'm not
00:12:14.540 going to name drop the amount of money i'll do it off air but at that time it was like a big money
00:12:19.300 like probably you can't say it means it's big it was like five four or five years of what i would
00:12:24.160 have earned is like whenever i was back because i used to clean bathrooms and i flip things on
00:12:28.120 craigslist it would have been like years and years and years of me like changing trash bags and all
00:12:33.620 that to get to that he made it in less than a day and that was all while we were out just eating
00:12:38.300 steak just doing our thing and then he went off to drive his lambo and i was just sitting there
00:12:42.380 running live chat just doing my thing and we made that that kind of money just like that will change
00:12:46.720 your entire perspective on how you live life and how how you're supposed to be conscious and and be
00:12:51.860 deliberate and actually play chess with life it's funny how strong that analogy is how every decision
00:12:58.480 you make and everything you do should be conscious but a lot of people that are stuck in gen z how old
00:13:02.580 you're you're 26 i just turned 29 29 yeah people in why you're you're a millennial but yeah gen z the
00:13:09.320 people you've seen the difference you've seen the shit you probably didn't grow up completely with
00:13:12.740 social media and i was like right on the edge right on that yeah yeah yeah but my like people who are
00:13:18.920 just giving it yeah we don't think that far ahead because of how distracted well yeah i don't need to
00:13:26.260 speak to you like you're boomer but you're constantly just fighting it all the time bro yeah like
00:13:30.700 six seconds ahead seven seconds ahead it's there's so many distractions that you're not thinking very
00:13:35.480 consciously but there needs to be a direct purpose with with everything you do or else like someone
00:13:40.400 else is just going to surpass you oh 100 bro like for me because i'm so on social media now it's like i
00:13:46.020 literally i'm on like i'll find myself watching my story watching your story get off and i'm like
00:13:51.260 what are you doing and i'll start working 10 20 minutes and before i know it i'm on twitter tweeting
00:13:55.860 again like i tweet first thing in the morning as soon as i wake up oh yeah you notice yeah like
00:14:00.440 i'm caught like since moving here actually i'm like dylan you need to chill out so i got and right
00:14:05.180 now i'm setting up systems where i i'll just type out tweets and send it off to a va and then i've got
00:14:09.720 another person uh like schedules the tweets and all that so i'm consciously i like that we're trying
00:14:15.340 to use uh systems and all that to separate myself because i don't know if you've noticed this but like
00:14:20.620 if i spend a lot of time on social media my brain actually starts like i'm not gonna say it destroys my
00:14:25.940 yeah fries my brain like i i my focus that's when i start picking the fingernails and i bite my nails
00:14:31.020 it's something i've been trying to fix as well but like the more time i spend on social media sure
00:14:35.340 i'll gain more engagement and all that type of stuff but it literally fries my brain so like how do you
00:14:41.620 manage that because like you you i'm just used to it i've been doing it for so long that i'm just
00:14:46.160 wired in to to deal with it but i think it gives you a competitive advantage to a lot of people
00:14:51.560 because if you understand what people are talking about that much more yeah then it's going to have
00:14:57.220 a different product than other people it's just effortless at this point yeah 100 even after the
00:15:03.020 cancellation yeah even after the cancellation yeah actually you said something earlier uh that i wanted
00:15:07.920 to speak on you're talking about how people they want to be like an influencer or whatever but they
00:15:11.940 don't actually live an interesting life that was actually something i made a switch on probably two
00:15:16.800 and a half three years ago i was trying to do the whole social media thing and a mentor of mine
00:15:20.780 reached out to me he's like dog like i know some of the clients you're working with fuck social media
00:15:26.220 focus on building a service build the service get your money right then go do the influencer thing
00:15:32.020 because at that point you'll actually be able to live an interesting life you'll have plenty of
00:15:35.860 experiences you'll have traveled the world by that point done all this stuff and for me personally
00:15:40.560 like this towards the end of last year was when i was like okay dylan you you've earned the right to
00:15:45.820 actually go down this like influencer path because like i've traveled all over the world
00:15:48.900 been to 17 countries you have something to talk about exactly right it's actually funny how much
00:15:52.880 how quickly andrew and tristan conquered social media even after the cancellation and not even really
00:15:59.960 like it's my whole thing pretty much i have different courses and businesses stuff like that invest but
00:16:05.240 really the my bread and butter is social media but doing it for 10 years and then they come on the
00:16:09.820 scene you know it's and it's not their main thing but they become that much more interesting
00:16:13.800 and able to speak fast and just dominate a podcast because they have that that real world experience
00:16:18.700 there's so much noise everybody's doing it so spending more time specifically on that does not
00:16:24.760 mean that you're going to be better than other people yeah it means that you're going to be like
00:16:28.600 following the trends and saying stuff that other people are saying but in a world full of so much
00:16:32.640 nonsense there needs to be something positive something different something that's out of the norm and
00:16:37.880 actually it's funny how much of a competitive advantage they can have yeah not being online
00:16:43.020 so much because people are tired of hearing every guys like me all the time playing twitch all day
00:16:47.440 gaming beating off making the same jokes no cap bro yeah for real on god like it's just so you know
00:16:54.200 and then they step up and just conquer all of it and then you see the the effect about how jealous
00:16:58.320 everybody gets and how they try to belittle them and try to say that they're grifters but it just
00:17:03.840 it's it's it's important it's so important uh it actually it's really funny how social media made
00:17:10.480 me realize how important the real world is how important it is to be outside because you you see
00:17:16.300 how empty it is yeah 100 and like for the average person's watching this maybe they're just starting
00:17:21.580 to get into your content maybe my content and so they're starting to wake up from the matrix but they
00:17:26.980 feel depressed because like i talk to kids all the time bro and they're i didn't realize how fucked up
00:17:31.920 people's minds are like kids like super messed up like how can they like find their sense of purpose
00:17:38.780 how can they stay positive whether they're an influence or whether they're a freelancer or
00:17:43.020 whether they're anything like just on a day-to-day basis if you're plugged into social media how can
00:17:46.680 you control your brain and really just find your sense of purpose and escape like clown world escape
00:17:51.660 the matrix you have to be obsessed with succeeding you have to even so the reality is everybody's going
00:17:57.920 to spend time on social media like we're not going to delete the apps we're going to be part of it
00:18:01.440 anyway but you need to curate the people that you watch and so that they have a positive effect in
00:18:05.060 your life yeah i'm sure that you don't follow a bunch of feminists and a bunch of like oh not at
00:18:09.040 so yeah so even now like the stuff that i look at i'm addicted to social media but everybody i watch
00:18:14.460 is positive everybody i watch i'm learning something from it's entertainment but there's also something
00:18:19.140 that they're saying that i'm going to be able to take away from i use social media as a tool and if
00:18:23.660 you're not using if you're using it to game if you're using it to go reply to comment sections and
00:18:29.120 like if you're putting an nba young boy profile picture with like you're just wasting your life
00:18:33.840 yeah k-pop people nikki minaj stands like whatever like you you are actually wasting your time and
00:18:40.080 you're just a pure consumer and you need to be creating more than you're consuming especially
00:18:44.740 with this and how much more it's going to be a tool look it's been proven by andrew and tristan how
00:18:49.320 strong the attention economy is yeah and i say this over and over again the next billionaires are going
00:18:53.240 to be people that are content creators the next president logan paul is going to be in the oval office
00:18:57.260 with the nuclear codes man it's going to be bryce hall a tiktoker someone going like this
00:19:02.140 boom nuclear code you know nay nay and on the whatever but that's that's the future mr beast
00:19:08.280 is going to be the next elon musk 100 he's 24 he's my age i've known him for long i'm telling you he's
00:19:13.960 going to be the next zuckerberg he's going to be the next uh these are the people that are going to
00:19:17.680 dominate the world and be the richest people because influence and attention is uh is a currency
00:19:22.700 that's the new crypto is attention yeah and i think a lot of people don't fully understand that
00:19:27.780 but but you need to to understand that now so look your mind if it's free then you're the product
00:19:33.720 yeah so so social media is free and oh wow think about that what that was deep no yeah if it's free
00:19:40.380 you're the product so you don't have to pay for twitch so how are they going to make money off of
00:19:44.600 you they're going to destroy your mind they're going to rot it you can't say the word simp they want
00:19:47.900 you to be addicted they went oh you're getting dumber you're getting slower they're spamming ads
00:19:52.560 that are three minutes long so you sit there coca-cola okay your brain is what they're mining
00:19:59.460 that's that's what they're they're taking away from so once you understand that then you know how
00:20:03.500 to utilize your time time is a commodity time is the is the most powerful resource you have
00:20:07.380 so you can't waste it at all people that are watching this right now and if you're depressive
00:20:10.880 like that i've been there before i'm sure you've been there before yeah you completely ship that when
00:20:15.320 you don't even believe that you have it when you don't even believe that it's real yeah i think
00:20:19.940 the biggest shift has been hypnotizing my mind to not even allow those thoughts to enter right i want
00:20:26.120 to hear what yours is but i will quickly say mine it's just as soon as i get a negative thought and
00:20:30.940 sometimes it happens like when i wake up and i scroll like oh you lazy pieces just push it out so it
00:20:36.140 even happens to sneaker i i don't allow i don't allow any of that to enter my mind anymore yeah you have
00:20:42.320 to be conscious with everything you do and you can't every time you have a negative thought
00:20:47.660 anytime you you don't speak negative words don't say anything don't engage in like debates back and
00:20:53.520 forth with nobody arguing about celebrity drama celebrity bullshit you can't because it's going
00:20:58.460 to rot your mind but yeah i'm curious he used to be i mean he used to be fat like super extremely
00:21:04.220 super fat bro how did it was was andrew like was that what does the conscious thing that he said
00:21:10.200 was that the biggest shift or like how did you get out of like being um a slave wage overweight stuff
00:21:15.000 like that to where you are now you're from south carolina oh yeah if you hear how he sounds i would
00:21:19.960 have never thought that you sound like you're from like south africa or something i don't even know
00:21:24.120 like you sound like a guy on the radios from the 40s how did you how did you become like uh some dumpy
00:21:29.780 guy yeah to to what you are now so for me i used to be like i used to sound like this it was bad bro i i posted
00:21:38.720 a video to instagram the other day and i was like literally i was like oh man this is so cringe and
00:21:43.000 my team's like no post it post it people need to see it and i was like okay fine i'll post it
00:21:46.200 but i changed my voice to the point where people in south carolina where are you from boy and i'd be
00:21:51.080 like uh i'm from here you don't sound like us you from new york or something i'd be like no i've been
00:21:57.000 here my entire life but for me i was always like i was like kid i just wasn't happy i was never happy i
00:22:02.660 always felt like i was missing something so that led me to reading a lot of like self-help books but then
00:22:07.000 you get to a point where you're like i've read like a hundred books now like my life hasn't changed
00:22:12.180 and you become addicted to self-improvement i've actually 100 addicted to it bro and then
00:22:17.040 one time i got out of the shower and i had some money in the other room got out of the shower and
00:22:21.480 i saw myself in all of my glory as it was jiggling as i got out of the out of the shower and i weighed
00:22:26.560 myself bro it was disgusting how much you weigh it was 285 pounds yes bro 285 pounds and i saw like
00:22:33.860 literally i put a shirt on i just went back to the room like don't look at me and i just went
00:22:38.900 anyone there was just you it was a girl yeah yeah and i was just like don't look at me i didn't
00:22:42.920 actually say that but like that's how my mind felt you so you had a shirt on when you when you were
00:22:46.880 having bumblecloth sex oh before i i i never even saw myself as like super fat until i got out of the
00:22:53.200 shower for whatever reason that that moment maybe i was like stupid before that or something but i got out
00:22:58.120 and my right foot touched the ground and my entire body just jiggled i was like my god this is what i
00:23:04.160 look like wow well there was an earthquake later that day i'm kidding so like seeing that and then
00:23:10.580 i was always that i was always like uh had like an addictive personality so like if i played i used
00:23:15.600 to play world of warcraft i played world of warcraft one of my least played characters had like 24 hours
00:23:21.220 in it bro 24 hours of my life in that one character so i always had that obsessive personality and then
00:23:26.960 i started turning that addictive personality the obsessive personality into only obsessing about
00:23:31.700 how can i make money how what what do i not have that all these other people do and i started
00:23:37.160 networking with people this is probably 2014 and i met andrew in 2019 so this is 2014 2015 and i started
00:23:44.060 going to these events and i've always been it i was talking to actually freshly you know i think last
00:23:49.360 night he said it just for him it just his networking ability just happens naturally i've always been that
00:23:53.640 guy too i think it's because people just sense i'm being genuine i don't want anything out of the
00:23:58.200 interaction so like i would find myself still super fat no value to offer to the world but i would find
00:24:03.940 myself like at events and then example a guy named mike surdovich one time he just shot me a text or a dm
00:24:10.080 he's like yo dylan uh my assistant's not going to be here can you help me run the event sure let's do it
00:24:15.720 so i ran the event then ed latimore and alexander cortez hey dylan we're going to run an event can you help
00:24:20.840 me with that sure why not so for me anytime opportunity knocked i didn't care if i was broke
00:24:25.700 i would find a way to make money to put myself in that situation because in my mind i knew as long
00:24:30.360 as i can be around successful people i'm going there's no reality where i'm not going to be
00:24:35.420 successful which leads to kind of my mindset in my mind there's like no once i in my mind i literally
00:24:40.440 say this there's no reality where blah blah blah happens uh or doesn't happen well it just depends
00:24:45.420 on the frame and i literally this will sound crazy just on another podcast i think the last week
00:24:50.860 sometime i talked to my mind as if it's another entity that's something i started doing around
00:24:56.720 2016 2017 and it works for me so i don't know if maybe you're like my god why am i talking to the
00:25:03.320 stealing guy but i i literally my mind i talked to it i just say mind like i don't have like a name for
00:25:08.120 it but i literally talked to my mind like it's a friend an ally or whatever uh and for me because i
00:25:14.480 used to have like super negative thoughts all the time like suicidal at one point i've made a video
00:25:18.700 about it just how i overcame that for me my mind's always been very powerful i'm always thinking i'm
00:25:23.560 always observing that's why sometimes i tend to be a little too quiet so i'm just constantly just
00:25:27.200 absorbing and studying everything uh but for me allowing looking at my mind is almost like an ally
00:25:32.940 and friend like it's my tool that i can navigate the world with and directing it instead of it directing
00:25:38.080 me because a lot of people are watching this they they wake up their mind tells them oh you're a piece
00:25:42.360 of shit oh why you don't deserve to be rich you don't deserve this a lot of people's minds they
00:25:46.760 allow the culture to yes they ride the wave of whatever the culture is doing whatever rihanna's
00:25:51.440 wearing they taught they have to respond to it whatever is trending on twitter like did you see
00:25:56.140 they they live for what other people are doing in the current trends yeah because thinking is a hard
00:26:01.480 thing to do and and directing your mind in the right direction yeah it's it's a difficult thing to
00:26:06.620 master that and i've noticed how many people will actively avoid having to think for themselves
00:26:11.920 because it's they just read headlines yeah they they read but also they don't want to go through
00:26:17.860 that that self introspection they don't want to have to analyze it's one of the hardest things that
00:26:22.680 a lot of people have to do especially with how many distractions are out there and how easy it is
00:26:27.060 especially when if you start getting those uncomfortable thoughts like oh i'm a fat piece
00:26:30.900 of shit yeah i'm late i'm not doing anything boom here yeah more distractions someone else is twerking
00:26:35.860 yeah something else is going on yeah the escapism is getting worse than ever well it's just going to
00:26:41.100 keep getting worse which is why i'm glad that we're sitting down having this conversation because
00:26:44.460 like especially you like the way you're navigating at least really i something i've admired about you
00:26:49.860 is you were like this entertainer or whatever but like you really came into this what what are you
00:26:55.180 gonna call it red red pill i would say red pill yeah the truth yeah you've really came into this
00:27:00.100 like truth space where you're you're waking people up and you since you've lived on that side of the
00:27:04.940 world or in that world you can now speak to like the kids that are like addicted to it because i know
00:27:09.920 nothing about twitch but you can actually speak to those types of people i'm beginning to get exposed
00:27:14.080 to like the the younger generation see how they messed up their their minds are but like well i think
00:27:19.200 that's my uh that's my appeal is that yeah i'm somebody who's made it out of that social media
00:27:24.800 distraction world yeah i started off with red pill content funnily enough like i've been doing
00:27:30.480 it for so long if you look at the videos i made when i was 14 15 it was called i had this video
00:27:34.720 called it's all in the creativity kit now because i canceled it it's too bad but um a teenager's
00:27:39.760 ambitions and a teenager's aspirations it's me 14 camera mic in my room like i don't want to work a
00:27:45.080 job i just want to do it i don't want to look at be 40 and regret what i didn't do with my life
00:27:49.480 what's the most important thing you could do i'm 14 saying all this stuff and then i'm 15 i'm talking
00:27:53.980 about how feminism is a lie why would they call it humanism why are they trying to uplift women
00:27:58.320 more than men like i was just analyzing the world and i was and those are my favorite videos i was in
00:28:02.920 there and i would finish it a lot of people would say like oh you're misogynistic they'd say i'm
00:28:07.680 racist they'd say like oh you're being too harsh like when i would say like you can't be a lazy piece
00:28:13.020 of shit i was 14 like i need to go make it for myself like oh why are you being so harsh but i would
00:28:17.600 be like yeah this is the right thing to do but then there were a couple years where i kind of got
00:28:22.080 dragged into this world and the woke thing and it was just this back and forth and getting addicted
00:28:26.960 on social media and then being in college and not knowing what i and giving up i gave up for like
00:28:32.160 three years something about that i didn't upload i i had maybe 27 000 subscribers which was like one of
00:28:37.460 my proudest things when i was a young teenager i had this pillow that i sat on i bought it with
00:28:41.440 youtube adsense yeah i'm like look at this pillow i bought this with call of duty commentary money
00:28:46.360 and then i stopped for a while and i was just on this path of hedonism i was in college drinking
00:28:50.700 all the time partying yeah and just looking for for validation and stuff like that and it made me
00:28:57.600 that's when i i was really depressed and i had no specific direction but the fact that i can i can
00:29:02.240 speak to that and i understand how powerful this is and how to get out of that with the right mindset
00:29:07.840 i think that that's uh i think that i'm very effective and i think that's why they cancel me like
00:29:12.920 is waking up the teenagers those people who are sitting there right now playing fortnite all day long
00:29:17.800 they know that they want to do something they're not sure what it is yeah but they they don't
00:29:21.880 nagging feeling yeah yeah there's that nagging thought and they're just playing games all day
00:29:25.740 and they you know they're watching porn instead of they have that thought in the back of their head
00:29:30.640 and i know exactly what that voice is because i tapped into that at a very young age so i i think
00:29:35.780 that that that's uh an effective thing but the the matrix they'll they'll they will bring you in
00:29:41.020 and when you get that nagging voice they will actively try to shut it out as much as possible
00:29:44.820 put it away and then suddenly you wake up and you're 40 years old yeah you're in a relationship
00:29:49.640 that you that has no sex yeah you know you're with a wife that is controlling you you're a debt
00:29:55.260 slave you're paying taxes in a bracket that you shouldn't be in you're not in a nice house and
00:29:59.600 you gave up on your dreams men will so quickly give up on all their aspirations and goals and dreams
00:30:05.680 for a little bit of dopamine so they can watch the game and drink a beer yeah brady tom brady
00:30:12.520 or some porn or to go to the strip club and like you see them in vegas like you see them at the
00:30:17.820 casino just to sit hunched over no it's disgusting boom boom they'll throw away everything for a
00:30:24.480 little for just some quick satisfaction so i want to get those people right now before they they give
00:30:29.700 up and before they just because that's what it is really everybody has that nagging thought like i
00:30:33.840 want to do something i want to create i want to stand out i want to add value to the world and then
00:30:38.500 they they end up choosing the easier the something they let someone else think for them yeah and so
00:30:43.680 if you can get those people before they they give up before they go down that route you so what would
00:30:48.300 you say if somebody's like 25 26 years old and they've had that nagging feeling but they don't
00:30:54.020 know anything it's not too late it's not too late even if people in their 30s even i don't i don't think
00:30:58.800 it's ever too late i think in your really so even like 40 i've seen people wake up like in their 40s
00:31:03.480 and 50s i've seen people like come up to me at the the fresh and fit party for example the guy's like 40
00:31:07.880 like i just got out of a long marriage like i think thanks for what you're saying like i
00:31:11.760 and they they have this you can have an awake a red pill awakening like any time in your life man
00:31:16.340 um there's movies about it like american beauty kevin space like in 1999 there were all these movies
00:31:21.320 about guys like late 30s early 40s they're in a job they don't like they're in a marriage that
00:31:26.780 is loveless yeah and then they have this sort of awakening and they embrace masculinity they start
00:31:31.920 to lift weights they have jobs that are outside office space matrix american beauty fight club
00:31:36.680 all these films uh that was about that specific truman show where they they embrace what they're
00:31:42.440 naturally supposed to do i don't think it's ever too late 25 26 men light work man yeah light work
00:31:47.720 so you live in the matrix essentially right now in miami what have been your thoughts of dubai
00:31:52.780 because i heard miami is as outside of the matrix the united states is i think it gets yeah and in the
00:31:58.860 united states at least you know live in a nice apartment a lot of beautiful women everywhere great
00:32:02.900 weather uh lower taxes yeah have a gun yeah you know i'm able to america yeah i get the freedoms
00:32:09.920 and stuff like that i wake up when i want i amazing food stuff like that but dubai it's been a couple
00:32:14.720 days and this is i get i understand why people who are red pilled see this as like the utopia
00:32:20.800 yeah and i've been considering getting a spot here i think there's so many it just is the obvious
00:32:28.260 choice right now okay so i guess my last little question is we got to go go grab some dinner and
00:32:33.540 some shisha uh what was like if for anybody that knows of you like how can you best help them like
00:32:39.580 whether they want to get into the social media space whether they want to start making money
00:32:43.240 like do you have anything that you could direct them towards yeah of course i mean you can find me
00:32:48.040 rumble.com slash nico and the creativity kit.com okay that's where i teach there we have different
00:32:54.160 professors like e-commerce crypto and editing stuff like that of course i've mastered editing
00:32:59.820 that was a big part of my career and i know how to i know how to make money online that's what i'm
00:33:05.620 good at that's what i've mastered if anything i know i didn't have a matrius job like myron like
00:33:09.300 he's saying like you don't have real world experience because i worked as a cop for 30 years
00:33:12.940 whatever uh my experience is making money online so i i teach that and especially i'm the i'm the
00:33:18.760 content creator uh specialist i know i know how to use the attention economy for your advantage and i
00:33:23.720 think that that's i think all the future billionaires uh we're gonna look back and be
00:33:28.440 like yo remember those days back on youtube and rumble when we were doing this like now we're
00:33:32.700 we're here look what we built uh doing the right thing online awesome well thank you thanks dylan
00:33:38.440 let's do it again awesome let's see so there's a slight dress code just slight but you don't have
00:33:45.120 to do your usual outfits are good yeah please bro thank you