SNEAKO - January 19, 2023SNEAKO Interviews Pancho!
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Summary
In this episode of the WDFA Podcast, we discuss the controversial topic of antidepressants and masculinity. We discuss the debate I had with the soy boy and the impact it had on his opinion on the topic, and how he reacted to the debate.
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we good yeah i can hear you what's up poncho what's going on did you are you watching the
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stream nah i'm not well how you been um it's nice to meet you yeah nice to meet you dog we
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got the same beard um you're not streaming on youtube are you because i want to get into some
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okay um so for my stream that doesn't know poncho he reacted to a debate i had uh with the soy boy
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some liberal guy who was pushing antidepressants and you saw the tiktok and you thought that he
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made good points but um it seems like we're actually on the same page about a lot of things
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yeah you got the woke people you can't trust them man you can't trust them uh and one thing
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that stuck out to me in your reaction was you said that you are not vaccinated can you can you explain
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uh why not i'm not um really when covid hit uh i didn't i didn't i mean obviously a lot of people
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didn't understand what the fuck was going on right like it just kind of came as a surprise
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and i actually had a stepdad who was constantly watching the fucking news looking up shit about it
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so he was kind of the one who advised me not to get vaccinated and i was i i trusted him because
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the things he was saying made sense he's like they rushed this shit it came out you know what i'm saying
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um so really to answer your question it was just my stepdad who is the guy who influenced me to not
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get vaccinated he was like don't get this yet don't we can't trust this so i just listened to him
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that's really all it was and i looked up some things for myself so yeah yeah have you seen um
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the documentary died suddenly or the people that are getting hard problems people having strokes and
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all that the health issues i yeah they he actually showed me a documentary i don't know if it was the
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exact one you're talking about but yeah it was a bunch of people who were researching it
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and people who actually uh you know were a part of this who came out and said yeah this shit's not
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not good it's not it was rushed yeah i watched it right but you you know you can't talk about what
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do you think about the fact and this is why i love arguing with soy boys because you can't talk
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about the other side on youtube twitch twitch and youtube they will only support the soy boy liberal
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opinion if you say the vaccine is experimental it's gene therapy it's not even really a vaccine
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because it doesn't stop transmission you will get a strike you'll get a medical misinformation strike
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on youtube that's part of the reason i was banned they're saying yes i'm a violent misogynist but it
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is that's why yeah they're they're fucking retarded on youtube to be honest because like those
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strike though yeah they'll strike shit that's like not even not even anything attacking what
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they're trying to protect like for example i even got struck for a diss track bro like they've
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gone after just a bunch of dumb shit but to stay on top what do you say in the in the diss track
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bro nothing crazy i i think the worst thing i said was bro it was a diss track on you know who vegan
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teacher is no don't okay well it was just a random meme um and i dissed it as a joke it wasn't even
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anything to be taken too serious and they struck it just because i was literally no reason no reason
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at all can i ask you a question i'm wondering how how red pill aware are you uh i don't know how to
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measure that well there's some there's some things like i saw you um one thing that really stuck out to
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me in your reaction to my debate with the soy boy was your your change of heart on antidepressants
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and i'm honest yeah i've always felt that way about him uh but as we've already discussed i mean i was
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kind of like tricked into tuning into the more emotional side and um yeah i mean i've always been
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aware of kind of just antidepressants kind of being a crutch rather than an actual solution
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um or i mean you know what i mean like what i mean uh it being a crutch like
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how do i explain this it's it's a band-aid to a problem yeah yeah that's fixable on your own
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that's a great word it's a crutch for your for your sadness and um so what we so to summarize people
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haven't seen the debate i went back and forth with one of the sore boys in the picture over here
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and we were debating about masculinity and i'm wondering if you could agree with the statement
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is masculinity one of the core parts of being happy as a man yeah i think so i'd say so because
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it's it gives you a level of satisfaction right it gives you what it gives you said that's and
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satisfaction is great it's like compared to happiness i'd rather i mean satisfaction is
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it holds a holds a weight compared to you know a little like a lot of people are out here saying
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i need to strive to be happy i need to strive to be you know that stuff so i i like being satisfied
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do you are you one of those people that say you strive to be happy
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i strive to be happy i'd like to be happy but really i feel like being satisfied is kind of like
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mutually inclusive with being happy and how do you satisfy me how do you satisfy uh hitting the gym
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every day um eating healthy every day doing the right thing doing my doing necessary tasks to help
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me grow staying disciplined right because the idea of striving to be happy is a matrix idea thinking that
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we always need to find happiness like my idea is that as men we just you're supposed to do the
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right thing every single day and that's when you'll you'll be happy but a lot of the people
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that i debate with they are on antidepressants they are vaccinated and they do not embrace their
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masculinity in fact they call people like us toxic and that's what's that's actually what's making men
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unhappy and that's the reason that they have to take antidepressants there's a reason you don't
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take antidepressants because you don't strive for you don't strive for happiness you just do the
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right thing every single day i hate to call i hate to call taking antidepressants a cope but to a level
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like it's it's by definition it's by definition coping yeah yeah and every single day when you take
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that pill you're telling yourself i'm unhappy i need a pill you're coping with your reality and not
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accepting what's in front of you so i'm wondering again um because i i criticize a lot of uh youtubers and
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commentary channels i've seen some of your commentaries and i think they're good um his
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channel is uh poncho p-a-n-c-h-o and oh cool you got the good camera now um yeah i realized a little
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more on putting camera um i'm wondering what your philosophy is on youtube and before you uh you
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answer that question i i criticize a lot of people like oh my camera's fucking up i criticize people
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like aban preach laban leach because they make videos that are similar to yours reaction videos
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but they do not try to learn and i was surprised that you actually had anything huh you don't think
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no they don't they don't they don't they have a specific like nothing point of view and i was
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really really surprised to see that you switched up um your point of view after realizing that the
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tiktok that you saw the debate i had about antidepressants you saw that like you you were
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misguided in a lot of ways um yeah people like laba and leach they they don't have any specific
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point of view if you look at the banner of the channel it's just that we talk about everything
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we talk they're just talking yes that's what most reaction channels are of course i react a lot of
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my stream but i have a specific point of view i am a red pill streamer i'm trying to wake people up
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do you have an objective or do you have a specific point of view that you follow
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uh i mean most of the commentaries i make uh i'll be honest i react to a lot of bot shit
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like cut videos and stuff like that but i try to look at them in the most like objective not
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not even objective way possible just just say how i feel towards them in the realist most authentic
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form way i can um to be honest i don't really have a big objective in mind i'm actually still
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trying to find it but uh i mean yeah i guess that answers your question how do you think that you
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amass um how many subscribers you have i don't know like 1.7 something though 1.7 million that
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that's and a lot of it came from a lot of it came from some bot shit a lot of it came from like
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uh the vegan teacher topic because there was this lady that went viral on tiktok
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for being vegan and trying to like say other people were bad people for not being vegan like
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calling out mr beast calling out a bunch of different other people for not being vegan and
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i just reacted to it saying like yo you're a crazy bitch and i got a lot of people i got i went from
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like 30k to 300 400k a week so that was my main i guess growth which is some red pill shit that's uh
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right now like i i want you to i i want you to be a red pill content creator but i can't of course i can't
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um let's be honest like i'm i'm already kind of my object i guess to answer your question earlier
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my objective because i'll be honest i don't want to fuck up my money
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uh but i want to i want to sprinkle it in the best way i can yep you know what i'm saying like i don't
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want to just completely you'll get banned yeah i was gonna say do you regret that shit no i don't
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regret it i i like the fact that i um that i'm speaking exactly what i like to say but that that
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would be my that's what i tell my chapters all the time that when you get red pilled it's better to
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not even reveal it like how much you know it's better to sprinkle it in and i think i think you
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got the perfect method just have some bot shit and then like slowly like a little bit dibbles and
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dabbles of red pill i don't know if i'm gonna ever get to the point where i'm like oh well let me
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rephrase it i want to get i want to i definitely want to be able to spread the truth the best i can
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in terms of just the bullshit that's going on but as i said earlier i don't want to just completely
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fuck myself right and and i feel like because i don't even have a rumble set up yet i'm definitely
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planning on getting it set up um but right now i'll be honest i'm kind of riding the fence
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um but that's just kind of where i'm at right now yeah it's funny that that's the nature of most
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reaction channels is that they you're not supposed if you have if you show that you have a specific
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point of view that's when you get targeted it's actually more profitable profitable like channels
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like playback um any reaction channels better to just be like i talk about relay the fucking
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messages that the masses already agree with yeah exactly exactly and if you if you come in with
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the point of view then then you end up on on rumble but um yeah so so do you think someone in the chat
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asked and i think it's a good question are you here making content to entertain or to lead
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80 percent lead 20 percent entertain okay why do you think i can describe it why do you think
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go ahead no no you go ahead because to be honest bro a lot of the stuff i popped off of
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was to kind of just entertain so i still had i'm i'm decreasing that level of uh i guess entertaining
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the masses every single day um and just more speaking my mind speaking what i actually feel
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rather than speaking what people want to hear um yeah i mean why do you think your audience likes you
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uh i feel like i mean i've seen a lot of comments about people saying i'm being
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being honest authentic and real yeah i mean that's most of the stuff that i see
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um but to a to a degree like i feel like some of my audience are just kind of like
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a little body i don't know what else to fucking say like yeah yeah no that that's the audience that
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you get on youtube you get a lot of you yeah yeah you think a lot of them are dumb yeah i mean to
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i mean not dumb but like not not seeing the bigger picture
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of just what's really fucking going on with why they think the way they do
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but that's that's that's usually how i look at it yeah
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well and i feel like i feel like even like as as you call them the swim boy squad i feel like they
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have a lot of people in their audience that you know kind of just are an echo chamber for
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of an echo chamber of yes men who are like oh yes you're so right you're so you know i'm saying
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you're you're you're doing the right thing by calling this or this out um and i feel like there's
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always going to be uh a how do i phrase a level of that within youtube audiences with with people
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like that um with people who just are yes men to every single opinion yeah people don't really
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try to challenge their critics yeah they don't want to critically they want to hear somebody
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who's saying what they already agree with yeah yeah and and even the people in your swim boy squad
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that you've had set up because i've seen it i've seen you even post it on twitter it's pretty funny
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it bro it's hilarious it's hilarious because they all look the fucking same yeah um kind of like
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we look the same i'll keep it honest yeah we do listen i'll keep it real though i've even
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been been to youtuber like meetups with some of the people in your fucking little squad oh yeah
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and they're fucking weird in real life i'll keep it real like they're like i remember being there
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just thinking to myself like what the fuck am i doing here like like what why am i hanging out
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with these people i even had my ex-girl with me she was just kind of like what are we doing here
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weird how you don't need to say who which one is which but like yeah i'm not gonna say i'm not
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gonna expose them like that but what was the weird shit like i guess the best word to describe
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is just el riz like there was even girls there and they were just trying and i was just watching
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the whole time i was like what the fuck are you doing bro like just thinking in my head but i
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wasn't gonna say that because you know youtube party clout like i have for some reason had that
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on my mind and that's just i was just like yo what are you fucking doing bro yeah just just them
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embarrassing themselves without even realizing they were embarrassing themselves but i'm not
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gonna say my names we were smoking with them going doing karaoke with them it was cool but it's funny
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that people like that will call me a violent misogynist and say like i'm bad to women but then
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they're the ones creeping they don't have any fucking experience bro they don't have any fucking they
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don't know shit they don't their their entire life is just on the fucking computer just being
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terminally online the entire time yeah wait you got invited to i'd never even been to a youtube event
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i'd never get invited to any of these things where which what events uh just like after party vidcon
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shit that was never been invited to vidcon never been never invited to vidcon but just um just invited
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but i forgive them i forgive them i don't hold any grudges but yeah yeah i i understand why they like
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that you know what i'm saying like i understand that they live their fucking life online they got a date
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to do it i understand but yeah they don't go i mean at the end of the day i feel like it's a lot of it
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is just coming from like just just how do i phrase this it's coming from a lot of just well first of all
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they're online a lot which means they're on youtube a lot because that's their job and
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i don't even know how i'm gonna how i'm gonna afford this it's just uh yeah they're just fucking
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weird and they'll insist to try to call me um a weird person it's very funny but like now what's
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gonna happen the fact that you you've come on my stream and you've talked to me about this
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is you're going to get a lot of your a lot of your bot fans are going to be extremely upset
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that you that you've spoken to me and then also you're going to be targeted by some of the woke people
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whatever bro like i'm not i'm not here to as i mentioned earlier like 80 of my content right now
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is just speaking what i feel 20 and it's lowering every day with the with the entertaining part i'm
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just trying to be authentically me i'm just trying to be myself relay my own opinions and just
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do what i feel bro um so i could give a fuck about anybody that's that's trying to come after me
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about some shit like that i mean i'm not saying anything that's like crazy you seem extremely
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authentic and it's making sense to why you have an audience i appreciate it right no i appreciate
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what you do um keep speaking truth and and don't care about what they say like how you're you're
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like a couple years younger than me right i'm 20 you're 20 yeah so just ready for the get ready for
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the woke mob because they're they're coming stronger but i think this is the year 2020 23 yeah
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they're gonna ban even short they're gonna try to cancel everybody but this is the year that
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people are really gonna start waking up i can give a fuck bro they're all i mean a lot of them are just
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people who don't even care about themselves they don't they don't have any they're just haters to be
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honest and i hate to use the word haters because it's such an overly used word but they don't even
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they don't even care about themselves and in in reference to focusing on things that are going
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to benefit them in their life and things that are going to enhance the quality of their life so all
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they do is just stay on the internet all day and just hate on shit because that's what they feel
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so i mean like i don't go to the gym speaking of the gym do you go you go to the gym right i've been
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going to the gym for like a month straight man every single yeah come on i know i'm sticko but
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i'm taking that shit seriously come on bro yeah if you come to miami bro let's get a lift in
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i'm in orlando oh yeah you're not that far away you know us in orlando uh penguins here are moist
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critical oh he's in orlando yeah i did not know that we should all go to the gym us three yeah hell
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yeah fucking penguin zebra isn't he a part of your super squad yeah but i forgive them all i don't
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hold any grudges against them like uh i don't want to spread love speech i forgive and i love all of
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them that's understandable bro that's that's definitely a good way to look at it yeah what
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you think about what you think about uh this is a random thought that came to mind what you think
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about the greta shit did you hear about that yeah it's all a sigh up i knew right away when i saw
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the picture i'm like this isn't real she wouldn't get arrested yeah you can see the expression right
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on her face yeah and i just knew that she wouldn't get arrested like she wouldn't it wouldn't happen
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and then now this all came out this is this is the um this is the new world order happening in real
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time it's funny you can't even say new world order on youtube without getting demonetized but
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this is it uh they're trying to make us all stay inside for climate change they want us to all
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be on pills they want us all to be vaccinated dumb believing in nonsense not going outside thinking
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that people like us are toxically masculine so it's time to wake the fuck up i'm done i'm done
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yeah to be honest i gotta i gotta thank you for some of that because when i was making my original
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video on you i was definitely uh a little bit i was swinging more towards the kind of feeling
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more focusing on just like uh what is this gonna how is this gonna affect people instead of just
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thinking well i mean when i say how is this gonna affect people how is this gonna affect bots
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um and how they're gonna react to this information rather than them critically thinking about the
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things you're saying and just realizing the fucking hole they're in in terms of emotional thinking
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um so yeah i definitely gotta thank you a little bit for that you kind of just
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wake me up a little bit or woke me up a little bit thanks and i appreciate you saying that i saw the
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difference in the comment sections the first video you posted where you were kind of against what i'm
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talking about everyone's like yeah he's bad and then you're like actually no i think i was wrong
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and everyone's like good on you for being for admitting yeah yeah i was surprised by that because
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to be honest i it let me know that my audience was wasn't as bot as i thought they were like i
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definitely had a lot of people in my audience that can critically think which i'm so thankful for
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because if i were to just keep on making the videos i want to make my viewership would have just
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plummeted i know wait but can they critically think or do they really look up to you as a voice for
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truth because they only switch because you switched that's a good point um i think that's a testament to
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actually i think that they can't credit i think most youtube viewers can't critically think they just
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listen to exactly what the youtuber they like the most thinks you think yeah i mean that's that's
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valid bro um yeah there's to me yeah i could i definitely swing towards that side uh to be
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honest because i remember being fucking 13 years old and looking at youtubers and being like oh that
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dude's a fucking dope person and i want to you know be like him so i can understand that
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i'm really looking forward to uh the response because i i collabed with um what's his name
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faded than a hoe fulcrum and bro they all got so mad at him for even speaking to me it's like
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the the programming is strong and sometimes like my rumble viewers can forget about it because we're
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on here all day we're on a different website but the amount of people on the the mainstream
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platforms that absolutely uh despise me i think i'm a terrible person it's really alarming like once
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you step out of this circle to see um the image that's uh painted in most of these people's
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minds only online though i don't see it in real life but it's it's real it's real going back to
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what we were just talking about though i feel like a lot of i mean i did see a lot of comments
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that were like you know making long responses toward my response towards you in the comments
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and and really breaking it down so i definitely think there's a lot of uh at least at least a
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decent amount of critically critical thinking that's going on within my audience and um
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i mean obviously i i i'd say it's a little bit of both when it comes to critically thinking and
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looking up to a youtuber uh but yeah i think that i think the fact that i'm even making the video in
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the first place kind of realizing all right i was wrong this this is and i'm explaining why
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um i think enhances their motivation to critically think so i mean i just want to correct my stance
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on that well i look forward to uh to continue watching your videos and the response and
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seeing if you switch up i'm surprised i'm glad that fulcrum didn't switch up but
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i i really i want people to to get out of this bot programming especially this year
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i don't know what i was pretty early to fulcrum bro i was i was oh yeah i subscribed to him maybe
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like 70k 80k my friend showed him me on him on his tv and shit he's funny bro do you smoke wheat
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people are asking in the chat i don't i don't i quit maybe a month ago a month and then your
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there was a few times in my life where i quit but i kept on going back to it because of some
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friend or some oh a friend some person that brought me back to it so i mean but now i'm
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off it completely so yeah and your productivity has gone up right oh yeah yeah definitely because
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i feel like when it comes to weed i was somebody who let it take control of me a lot more um because
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i'm not gonna swing completely to the side of weed makes you fucking lazy weed makes like i'm not
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gonna swing completely to that side because there's some actually like really energetic people
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really really energetic people who can just like mellow out on weed and get a good balance off of weed
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and i'm not gonna say it makes them lazy because i've even seen like real life examples of them being
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productive but when it comes to um how it affected me it definitely made me very fucking lazy bro like
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i would just chill on this fucking couch bro and just stare like you know what i'm saying i would
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just not even when i'm by myself even when i was with friends bro i would just kind of just
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chill i don't know how else to describe it i would just do nothing and chill listen to music
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not have a single thought on my brain so i i definitely had to understand over a period of time
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maybe like six seven years that um it wasn't really doing anything for me so it makes you okay
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with nothing yeah yeah because and that's not in that's not in my personality bro that's not in my
00:26:14.780
personality at all i mean obviously not um because i have a lot of things on my mind when it comes to
00:26:22.900
getting things done and wanting to complete certain objectives like that's how i actually feel so i don't
00:26:28.420
want to be out here just bullshitting myself you know what i'm saying and just smoking all the time
00:26:34.720
because i actually was at one point addicted to it or not uh you know what i mean like yeah addicted
00:26:40.900
to it i would be smoking like three four blunts a day yeah it would be the routine it would just be
00:26:46.060
the routine regular day my my my sixth sense would just be rolling up like i i'd have it in my
00:26:52.780
that was like that so every single day but do you think do you think would you run with the the stance
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that it makes you lazy i think it makes you okay being lazy like you could be lazy you don't even
00:27:09.180
think you don't even think that with high high energy people because i i i have a i have a friend who
00:27:18.000
would get high and then go work their shift and they would be real solid during the shift their
00:27:23.300
shift though that makes them it makes them okay with working a shift that they don't want to work
00:27:27.000
at but if you're working high level and you're you're an entrepreneur and you're self-governing and
00:27:32.400
you do what you want to do and you're your own boss you don't have time to smoke weed like if you're in
00:27:36.300
charge of a lot of people but you don't you can't you can't be smoking weed that's that's if you
00:27:41.300
work a shift i understand like you smoking weed what if you have somebody that rolls it for you and it
00:27:45.340
doesn't take up much of your time and you just that's not about it's it's just about being on
00:27:49.380
point 24 7 being in different meetings talking different people but being on point 24 7 is not
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wasting time and they're not wasting time by having somebody else that does it for you i'm just curious
00:27:59.240
i i i personally think it makes you okay with laziness yeah no i'm with you on that i'm with you
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on that at least with my life and how i it's it's it's been towards me um but i don't know i i feel
00:28:13.200
like it's it's definitely a thing with a lot of people but i don't know about everybody
00:28:20.500
i don't know about it i guess they look at wiz khalifa they think that snoop dogg and wiz khalifa
00:28:27.040
because they're successful or elon musk because he smoked on jre one time that weed doesn't make
00:28:30.940
you lazy but bro this is for me you were addicted i was smoking for nine years straight it made me okay
00:28:35.280
with laziness so if it made me okay with being late being lazy then weed makes you lazy but we can even
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look at people like with i mean i don't look at people like wiz khalifa as anybody that i could
00:28:44.800
be motivated off of but we could even look at with people like wiz khalifa as evidence to say
00:28:49.820
oh this person smokes weed and he's doing all right
00:28:51.840
in terms of accomplishing the goals they want he has a fucking hit record he is
00:28:58.940
you know i'm saying he has a ton i don't know i don't i don't really
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it's better it's better to not promote it it's better yeah i understand there's outliers there's
00:29:09.100
always an exception to the rule but i think if you have an audience it's better to just be
00:29:13.700
if like then once in a while bro i'll hit a joint once in a while you know if i'm at exactly
00:29:19.120
but my point my point is my point is it's better to say be sober as somebody with influence because
00:29:26.740
overall the net positive and the people that listen to you it's better for them to be fully
00:29:30.620
focused all the time just like me it's better if i don't smoke all the time like but i know that
00:29:34.460
i'm able to handle a couple hits of a joint or i'm able to smoke but and same thing i drink
00:29:39.160
i have a bottle of wine that just got this as a gift but it's better for me to tell people not to
00:29:43.680
drink i feel like my my own personal viewpoint on it is i feel like if you're able to manage your own
00:29:54.280
life and not let weed control you because that was my problem i let weed control me i let weed
00:30:01.680
make me lazy i let weed make me sit on the couch for fucking 30 minutes at a time i feel like if
00:30:08.360
you're up and you have your own you have your your motion i guess to put it short if you got motion in
00:30:15.320
your life and you have goals and things you're working towards and you're actively pursuing them
00:30:22.160
it's fine to smoke weed as long as you don't let it control you and you know don't maybe don't smoke
00:30:30.260
weed while you're actually grinding or while you're in the process of like doing these things because
00:30:34.920
at least in my experience it slowed me down but uh i don't know i feel like everybody should kind of
00:30:41.420
go through their own experience that's just me though my point is because there's so many different
00:30:48.400
unique factors in each individual each individual person's life because i even had this conversation
00:30:54.300
with my stepdad i even told him i was like yo i'm done with weed i'm never gonna smoke again
00:30:59.020
and he was like yo chill out like yes that's understandable but you know sometimes i'll even
00:31:07.540
smoke weed to kind of just chill out go to sleep there's there's more to it i feel like
00:31:15.220
of course the truth always falls in the center my point is but but i get what you're saying as
00:31:21.360
well because i understand that it's easier and it's definitely better to um you know uh how do i
00:31:30.960
phrase this not not play the safe route but be smarter about um the objective of accomplishing your
00:31:40.560
goals and it's definitely easier to accomplish your goals not smoking weed than smoking weed right
00:31:45.200
because smoking weed can slow potentially slow you down
00:31:49.200
yeah my bigger point is that as some somebody with influence it's better to tell people to not
00:31:57.400
smoke it i understand that it's in the middle but it's just better for their life but you know keep
00:32:02.800
doing your thing man i hope you find your your actual purpose um keep playing the middle ground or
00:32:09.100
you know i'm not going to tell you what to do but that that would be my advice to somebody who got
00:32:12.240
banned is don't don't go full force red pill rage you're gonna i what i think is gonna happen soon
00:32:17.780
is you're gonna keep getting red pilled and then what what happened to me is i got really upset about
00:32:21.740
everything especially like post-covid um after all the lockdowns the frustrations of being lied to
00:32:27.000
like i got and people everybody in my chat they saw it in 4k do you think do you think you're
00:32:31.100
do you think this is this is the question do you think you are ever emotionally driven by some of
00:32:36.360
the things that are cool rather than rather than looking at it completely objectively yeah i'm trying
00:32:43.320
to be more stoic and trying to handle it better a lot of it is for entertainment because i know that
00:32:46.880
like spasm on the stream like if i'm yelling then the chat goes like crazy like that yeah like it's good
00:32:53.420
for you know you need high energy but i'm trying to be more stoic and i'm trying to be smarter about it
00:32:57.660
okay i understand that because sometimes sometimes i'll even see clips it's sometimes you'll be
00:33:02.960
popping up on my tiktok bro and i'm spasm like yeah i can't even remember it like a a take that
00:33:11.040
you've you've made but like sometimes i'll be like damn this motherfucker's mad like this motherfucker's
00:33:18.400
upset but i'm not gonna speak that for you but the people that do feel what i'm talking about they
00:33:25.460
understand and they they felt that red pill rage too and that's why even through the cancellation
00:33:29.400
that i'm still here but i'm getting better at it but don't do you think that do you think that red
00:33:34.280
pill rage is i think everyone goes through it i think everybody who learns the truth about it like
00:33:39.280
once once you realize how much they've lied to you about 9-11 covid who really controls the world
00:33:44.800
the truth about money like who's behind what they're doing on islands how they're trying to
00:33:50.020
separate god like everything you'll be like fuck this like feminism what they brainwash women to do
00:33:56.540
you'd be like what else i've been lied by college everything you'll yeah so we can agree that this
00:34:02.260
is a war between two sides right good and evil it's not right and left yes so do you think responding
00:34:10.980
emotionally is what's going to win the war that's my that's my question and obviously it's not
00:34:17.000
so like here's here here's the bigger point so because i feel like i feel like the best way to
00:34:22.500
completely get this movement shifted over back to like i don't know how to describe other other than
00:34:28.660
just back to 2016 um is to just be objective about what's going on rather than being uh necessarily
00:34:37.320
upset or not adding to the polarization yeah because i get it emotional responses sometimes add to that
00:34:46.520
in the sense of just like oh i'm against you you know what i'm saying right but yeah you have to
00:34:54.400
realize what is going to garner attention say the same reason that you're not going to talk all about
00:34:59.360
red pill all the time and you're just going to dabble in the truth because you get an attention
00:35:02.620
talking about make the sally and twerking with she-hulk and then you sprinkle in the truth about why
00:35:06.920
feminism and hollywood are trying to to brainwash people and trying to control people how they're
00:35:11.720
pushing prostitution in the music like you have to drop in little hints in there but you use the
00:35:17.280
mainstream agenda to go and talk about it so same thing when you see me emotional in tiktoks i'm
00:35:21.180
trying to capture your attention quickly because everybody's okay so your argument is being emotional
00:35:25.540
gets the most reach for it doesn't get the most reach but you need to speak fast loud and be funny
00:35:31.720
in 10 seconds or else people swipe onto the next tiktok so when they're swiping swiping swiping if
00:35:35.940
someone once in a while comes out then they're like you're right that's true and that cuts through
00:35:41.220
all the twerking and all the fucking charlie d'amelio doing a dance on the fucking jiggly ass pants
00:35:45.660
so that was my method and it it's uh it's effective but of course i'm trying to get smarter
00:35:51.260
no i definitely hear you what do you think about what do you think about like
00:35:57.800
aiden ross and like what he's been kind of doing with with transitioning i guess you could say
00:36:08.000
with because he's kind of been like that that typical uh guy that most bot uh viewers kind of
00:36:18.340
look at and just kind of follow the the up-to-date trends and he's he's been kind of the guy that looks
00:36:24.600
that or that that capitalizes off of that type of audience what do you think about like his
00:36:30.120
transition over to like i guess tate influencing him it's good he needs um some more direction in
00:36:36.660
his life he needs to embrace his masculinity more he needs to follow god more he needs to get rid of
00:36:41.180
the degeneracy and um tate was somebody who really influenced him and is positive and i think that's
00:36:45.780
why they're banning him and i hear he's thinking about coming to rumble and i think he should come here
00:36:49.440
i think you think you think it'll here's what i think i don't know bro i'm gonna keep it real
00:36:56.280
sometimes i'll be thinking aiden is a bitch and and when i say that i don't mean that he i think he's
00:37:04.760
i think he acts like a bitch a lot of the time and true no no no no no aiden uh aiden yeah oh on
00:37:12.660
purpose yeah to play up the character yeah he's showing exactly yeah yeah so i don't i don't know if
00:37:17.720
i'm like fully convinced that he's gonna actually follow through with this this enlightenment you
00:37:24.020
could call it um he is this year it's not enlightenment it's self-improvement he wants to
00:37:29.660
become yeah yeah yeah you you know what i'm saying um and i don't know sometimes i've been thinking it's
00:37:36.420
like is this for not is this for views but is this like it's genuine you think no i met him it's
00:37:45.560
genuine okay yeah gotcha oh that's dope then that's dope quick for real you think take you think taste
00:37:53.000
guilty i've been seeing a lot of just random shit not not guilty with the sex trafficking i don't i don't
00:37:59.280
believe that shit but uh speaking of abba and preach i saw i saw the recent video about he's
00:38:07.460
innocent they have no evidence poncho they have absolutely no evidence uh and lab and leash bro
00:38:11.900
they're fucking snakes they just take down everybody who's trying to speak truth to power
00:38:15.400
they they don't they don't listen to any of these lies i've met them they don't have no need to
00:38:21.540
traffic women there's absolutely no evidence there's actually some of the victims are coming out and
00:38:24.980
saying that they respect them yeah i mean lab and leash they stand for absolutely nothing they're
00:38:29.780
just snakes bro it's just it's garbage content and i really hope that um like you make similar type of
00:38:35.340
content but i think you could have a better philosophy with it i just do the opposite in my opinion of what
00:38:39.920
they do yeah you know when it comes to them like i mean i did see like the video of andrew tate
00:38:48.380
describing like his process with how he influenced the gross to kind of get in the business and stuff
00:38:56.360
like that and and how like the taxes situation with him taking some of the percentages out of the
00:39:04.740
taxes because he was responsible for um controlling some of the percentages i i didn't i didn't really
00:39:13.160
even to be honest i don't really even process that too much like it just seems really complicated so i
00:39:17.420
didn't know how what was even really going on so yeah that's not a crime to go and take a percentage
00:39:22.800
yeah exactly like there's there's nothing so that's effectively what effectively what they're
00:39:27.980
trying to frame him for like fraud with that as their evidence is that like their yeah there's
00:39:35.520
main thing they're trying to put no they're trying to get him for trafficking but there's no evidence
00:39:38.880
they're going to be innocent and i'm going to laugh at all the soy boys even though we love them even
00:39:43.240
though i still i forgive them i'm gonna have a good old laugh when they when they're innocent i gotta ask
00:39:48.720
do you love them or do you are you just okay with them because to be honest even if i was you bro i
00:39:59.340
wouldn't even love them like i mean to be honest like with with you're religious right yeah like there's
00:40:06.820
love everybody and love your neighbor but i don't know bro like i i guess i'm just a half-ass
00:40:14.020
uh catholic when it comes to that stuff i don't i don't i don't decide to love somebody whenever they
00:40:22.440
shit on me for some shit that's the only thing i can do i don't want to i mean there's no point
00:40:27.840
in holding a grudge like of course uh i challenge moist critical to a boxing match but he won't do it
00:40:32.260
i mean he's five two like it'd just be so you so you love them but like you don't pay any like
00:40:37.140
mind to them type shit i'm trying to i want to just spread love and positivity and forgiveness so
00:40:43.300
i love him okay lasanabi ethan hasanabi not ethan decline ethan klein moist critical i love him i
00:40:51.640
forgive him speaking of it's okay ethan klein did you see um like what he said with bradley martin
00:41:00.020
recently yeah i saw yeah he stands for nothing exactly and i thought it was interesting because
00:41:07.500
that'd be a really good video for you to react to i think i noted it down actually yeah because
00:41:13.760
i feel like bro i used to watch the fuck out of h3s me too i used to be big i used to bro you used to
00:41:20.380
be funny as fuck vape nation and yeah yeah exactly and i i think he just completely went down the
00:41:31.440
bullshit hole when it comes to like listening to the masses um and just relaying the information
00:41:40.540
that they wanted a year rather than what he actually felt i think he completely he's one of the prime
00:41:46.000
examples of i mean i guess you could call it just a puppet um yeah with people what people want to
00:41:52.700
hear he is a matrix agent in real time he's just the voice of the woke he's the voice of twitter
00:41:57.040
cancel culture it is what it is but there's nothing i can do i i hope that's for him but it is great
00:42:02.200
seeing that it is great seeing him kind of just like realize oh shit this is taking a toll on my actual
00:42:09.600
fucking mental health uh this is not what i actually stand for because he even mentioned
00:42:15.700
in the argument or in the podcast that he wanted to feel normal again i thought that was crazy
00:42:22.840
let's feel normal he's on antidepressants too you know that i didn't know that all the sore boys are
00:42:30.100
i didn't know i wish the best for him but he needs the gym and he needs he needs some
00:42:34.300
self-improvement in his life he even said that what did he say he said working out
00:42:40.000
life is too short to work yes nico i just life is too short so that's crazy you shouldn't listen
00:42:46.020
to those people that's fucking crazy yeah no yeah your mic cut out
00:42:52.460
your mic cut out poncho i have a good can you hear me yeah you just can you hear me yeah i can
00:43:01.200
hear you but you just lag like crazy can you hear me still uh yeah but it's not synced up
00:43:07.240
with your face anymore what about now really out of sync yeah it's really yeah hold up let me read
00:43:18.840
let me read what about now yeah it's good it's good yo i'm gonna i'm gonna i have uh more guests
00:43:26.000
coming on i have more videos to react to yeah i'm uh yo so um thanks for coming on yeah hell yeah
00:43:32.700
um where can we find you last thoughts shit you can find me at poncho on youtube uh what's my new
00:43:45.760
who's poncho on twitter i have a new twitter my old shit i had uh what was your what was your other
00:43:53.520
question um what are your thoughts yeah anything you want to plug last thoughts on this conversation
00:43:59.060
anything like about red pill or about your future about what you're gonna spread it's a wave
00:44:02.780
it's a wave that's all i gotta say i feel like people are finally getting to the point where they're
00:44:07.980
fucking tired of a lot of shit that's been mainstreamed and simple as that all right poncho thanks for
00:44:15.180
coming on don't take the soy don't drink the soy no say no to antidepressants and man maybe maybe do
00:44:21.180
a gym video i if you when you if you ever come to miami let's do let's do a gym stream