SNEAKO - January 30, 2024


SNEAKO Interviews UFC Fighter Chris Curtis


Episode Stats

Length

48 minutes

Words per Minute

239.84558

Word Count

11,556

Sentence Count

9

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

167


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In this episode, I sit down with one of my good friends and former amateur boxing coach, Matt Denton. We talk about how he got his start in the sport and how he became one of the best fighters I've ever seen. We also talk about the importance of keeping your eyes on what you're hitting and what you need to do to make sure you re hitting your target.

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00:00:00.000 cool what they say they're just saying w right now it looks significantly better than when we
00:00:09.000 started if you had the chance to like kind of time lapse and see when we started versus like
00:00:14.200 there someone that can edit that i would like to see that yeah someone can do that it'd be really
00:00:17.460 cool to see it because like just your progression i think a big one too is you're starting to keep
00:00:21.980 your eyes on what you're hitting one of the biggest things people fuck up on is they don't
00:00:25.420 keep their eyes on like what they're punching and you kind of start like missing the target
00:00:28.760 that's why you're like you're pulling too close but when you focus on keeping your eyes on what
00:00:32.360 you're hitting you're landing like great hooks but at the moment you're not watching the target your
00:00:36.480 hook sucks but when you have eyes on target your hook so i'm thinking more about the body language
00:00:40.720 rather than the target i'm thinking more about swinging it rather than the fact that you're
00:00:43.440 sniping it's just a sympathetic sympathetic memory your eyes your body will follow where your eyes
00:00:48.900 are if you lock your eyes on it's like catching a ball you see something moving fast you've caught
00:00:53.180 some shit you never thought you're gonna catch yeah your body will go where your eyes go that's
00:00:56.460 just the way we're fucking wired as humans so if i'm looking at something my body's going to try
00:01:00.800 to correct to it like feel a fastball you can't really see a fastball too much but when you like
00:01:04.440 your eyes track something your body's there before you can like before your brain is like okay what
00:01:08.760 are we fucking doing like no same way if i see something here i'm going to punch it and it moves
00:01:13.060 here as long as i'm watching it a lot of times my body's gonna track where it goes i'm thinking
00:01:17.460 about it it's that same way with punching like just a lot of boxing coaches that say you need to
00:01:21.540 look at like the guy's chest you got to look at his chin you know yeah when so yes when i'm when
00:01:26.540 i'm looking at you and when we're ahead of each other later what's up when we're fighting and
00:01:33.320 nothing's happening i should be watching the center mass of you because i need to be able to see the
00:01:37.360 best picture of you like if i'm watching i usually go from like here chest i can see where your shoulders
00:01:42.480 are where your hips are turning whatever if i'm punching i don't need to watch your chest i need to
00:01:47.780 see what the fuck i'm punching target yeah so yeah if nothing's happening we're in this space
00:01:51.540 moving i need to be able to watch you if i'm punching you my thoughts should be like i need
00:01:55.760 to make sure this lands so i'm just throwing punches and he's moving it's like you see guys
00:02:00.120 he's whipping punches because you're not it's like punching with your eyes closed you see guys who like
00:02:03.720 a lot of times close their eyes they put in the fights and shit well you're just swinging you don't
00:02:07.280 know what the fuck you're punching yet i need to be able to make adjustments on the fly
00:02:10.200 so if we're just out here touching whatever moving moving i need to be watching you the moment i start
00:02:15.040 fucking fighting you i need to be making sure i'm watching what i punch because you'll you'll see
00:02:19.400 you felt it if you're not watching you'll fucking miss like you'll go my legs i'm missing a lot
00:02:23.380 when i'm not doing that my target needs to get a lot better with that your brain's smarter like
00:02:28.300 your fucking reflexes are smarter than you think they are like we got that reflex that instinct is
00:02:32.200 like pretty fucking good we just got to not let our brain override it sometimes yeah i mean how do
00:02:37.560 you how did you get over that stiffness in the beginning were you ever stiff were you always like
00:02:41.340 were you like going up dancing or something everybody sucks everybody fucking sucks i've never i've seen
00:02:44.880 like two good people ever i've known two good fighters that were naturally good natural like
00:02:50.460 victor o'donnell was a guy i came up with back in the days of fighting anymore that dude was probably
00:02:55.620 one of the best people i've ever seen fight just good he's just good at fighting like you teach me
00:02:59.140 for something once he knew it he was bad i mean his first fight ever it was crazy my coach told me
00:03:04.420 about it he joined my first year right before i did he fucking had fight only hit a heavy bag in his
00:03:09.160 garage went to his amateur show beat the shit out there their champion who was like supposed to be hot
00:03:14.060 shit back home victor no training went there just beat the fuck out of him no training it wasn't it
00:03:19.120 wasn't like a it wasn't like a bar fight no victor just had watched videos train himself on a bag in
00:03:23.800 his garage for two weeks beat the fuck out of their champion victor was just good he like he was just
00:03:28.340 better than you like he learned shit really fast he's one of those guys who didn't actually get
00:03:32.420 into fighting but there's very few people i know like that and i've met thousands of people who fight
00:03:36.860 everybody starts out bad it's like anything else the more you do it the better you get the better you get
00:03:42.720 but more so especially with fighting with the stiffness and the like whatever like this
00:03:47.340 movement the only way i found really fixes that is sparring because hitting mitts you're gonna be
00:03:54.100 rugged you're gonna be whatever yeah once you start sparring and more so you start getting beat up a
00:03:58.080 little bit you start kind of noticing how everybody else moves the guys beating you up aren't the guys
00:04:02.180 doing this they're the guys like moving moving moving so after enough of that you start slowly like
00:04:07.940 you know adapting you do you it's osmosis you do incorporate a lot of those small movements so
00:04:13.040 like you know you're sparring a good guy he's just really good fucking you up you're like okay what is
00:04:17.140 he doing he's doing this and this that like keep fucking me up so maybe i should try that and you
00:04:21.600 start doing that the more and more you do that you start taking shit that works throwing out stuff
00:04:25.940 that doesn't you kind of build your own style but the guys who like get comfortable sparring more and
00:04:31.140 more and more you see them loosen up how often do you spar i think sean strickland talk about how he spars
00:04:36.420 like 12 rounds every day like sparring everyone talks about how hard he spars i i spar more than
00:04:42.720 is healthy yeah so don't don't follow me like i'm somebody like i've cut back recently but i was doing
00:04:48.460 two sparring sessions a day monday and thursday so i do five rounds in the morning five rounds in the
00:04:53.420 afternoon monday thursday napping between yeah i take a nap and go back spar i used to box wednesday
00:04:58.720 we box 12 rounds wednesday at the boxing gym we would come saturday do 12 rounds of boxing
00:05:04.320 i i used to i spar away more than necessary that's probably unhealthy why is that unhealthy
00:05:09.020 you're gonna get injured fucking brain is like dude i'm pretty sure i'm losing like brain cells
00:05:12.960 and a large yeah that's why people go mma instead of boxing right because boxing your brain damage is
00:05:16.680 you get more brain more brain damage in boxing yeah but honestly like getting hit in the head
00:05:21.300 or anything that much that sucks even mma like the wrestling and whatnot like the fucking impacts
00:05:25.600 aren't good for you but i i came up from a time to win when i first started fighting we didn't have
00:05:30.920 shit bro my first three years of fighting at a vision mma is where i started at bro we didn't
00:05:36.700 even have like 16 we didn't have a six ounce gloves we had like straight regulation and then four ounce
00:05:42.580 gloves we didn't have shin pads we're in there doing a full contact sparring with no shin pads no
00:05:47.880 shit i got my first day of sparring i got knocked out by justin mcalfresh he was a wbc guy fought 205
00:05:55.060 kicked me in the head no shin pads fucking knocked me out partially detached my retina i went home
00:06:01.040 is it still fun no it's fine i uh i went home and uh my son's mom found me like passed out in the
00:06:07.940 living room with the door open still and i was like fucking unconscious fucking hour i got home i
00:06:12.340 remember going home and then like the next like the next day i'm in the house pissed because i'm like
00:06:17.580 who left the door open there's flies everywhere there's like fucking shit bug flies everywhere i'm in
00:06:21.680 the bathroom like fighting flies and she's looking at me like we should go to the hospital i'm like
00:06:25.700 why she's like there's no there's no flies i'm like oh shit like i'm just seeing like fucking black
00:06:30.440 shit like spun like buzzing around my vision yeah i'm like fuck man i'm thinking there's like bugs in
00:06:34.560 my house and shit she's like there's no flies in here so i'm like oh shit that's for a bad time
00:06:38.280 so it was a wild west back then man so i just came up in a place to where we fought every day yeah
00:06:44.120 it had its benefits it made me really fucking tough like i can go smart yeah you have a level of not
00:06:49.140 caring like you're willing to fight anybody it seems like you'll take a fight short notice
00:06:52.500 i've sparring a thousand rounds a year for the last 10 years of my life 10 15 years of my life
00:06:58.740 against some of the best guys in the world like i'm not afraid of fighting like no it's fine like
00:07:03.560 so many guys in the sport don't like fighting i fucking love fighting yeah you got guys who like
00:07:08.120 to compete and guys like to fight you just like well guys who compete you like to win like to fight
00:07:13.460 i like to fucking fight bro i just love fighting but i think the more you like get comfortable
00:07:18.400 sparring and getting hit the more you loosen up and realize i'm not gonna die i think the big part
00:07:24.040 is you got to get comfortable sparring but like that takes time and i would never say do it the
00:07:31.280 way i came up if i was gonna like train you i'd be like hey let's pick your sparring partners like
00:07:36.440 hand pick your guys i know they aren't gonna kill you because there's the bad way to do it too is you
00:07:41.240 got guys you see a lot of guys get broken in practice man who like guys come up with guys way
00:07:46.040 better than them like way better than them and they get beat so fucking much that like they
00:07:51.020 develop fear so now you got guys who could have been good but they're so they've been beaten so
00:07:55.700 much in practice by guys they can never have a chance of beating right now that they go fight
00:08:00.720 scared and they become like frail they're just like fuck man i don't want to get hurt so you don't
00:08:05.320 want to be that guy so the way you get around that it's like a you know it's like you need people
00:08:11.940 good partners and as you get better we get harder and harder spars but you can't come out the gate
00:08:16.440 sparring fucking world champions like that's how they beat fear into you we're like you know you
00:08:20.060 get fucked up so much you're like i don't want to feel like that and what if that guy can do it what
00:08:23.920 if that guy can do it and now you're fucking broke like you spent you know you never got out the gym
00:08:28.180 before you learned fear like nah that's not what you want you don't think it's worthwhile to spar with
00:08:31.520 like people who are really good but they actively turn it down that's fine but under self
00:08:38.160 one of the worst mistakes you can make especially like getting ready for a fight
00:08:42.020 is even fighting somebody really good who turns it down you're never going to beat them
00:08:48.060 even if you don't get fucked up you're never going to win so would you want to go into a fight with
00:08:55.360 your confidence having been you've never won a round it'll break you bro like i've been in fights
00:09:01.420 where i had camp i just got fucked up every single day and you go into a fight and you're like bro i suck
00:09:06.760 like i've lost every round of training like that's not the confidence you want going into a fight
00:09:11.580 like what was the worst camp you had was it recent or was it the cabin one oh no the worst camp i ever
00:09:16.600 had was fucking uh i fought balal muhammad 13 years ago that was a long time ago i looked that up yeah
00:09:23.840 bro so i had just left my gym i didn't have a gym at the time and like my last two weeks for that camp
00:09:30.960 i joined a new gym but so there was like five weeks of me training by myself and then like i
00:09:37.420 trained by myself that was at a boxing gym like pure boxing gym so i was okay i don't have mma training
00:09:42.800 so i just got to box more and more and more so all i did was like boxing conditioning and it was just
00:09:47.540 to the point to where like i ended up getting rhabdo i didn't know i had rhabdo but i ended up
00:09:51.960 like rhabdo so rhabdo is a fun it's a fun well it's a condition to where staff no we've worked
00:09:59.500 out to the point to where your muscles begin to liquefy when your muscles when your muscles liquefy
00:10:04.200 it leaks protein back into your system so fun story that good no you're the human body the human
00:10:10.880 kidneys have more not designed to filter protein so when you get protein in your kidneys what happens
00:10:16.680 in kidneys your bladder it just sits because it doesn't have a way of breaking that protein
00:10:21.380 protein down so what happens is your kidneys start to fail your kidney failure from working
00:10:26.620 out too hard so you sparred so hard your kidney failed just training so much i was like i was
00:10:32.520 starting to fail so what happened i remember that fight the weight cut was miserable and i remember
00:10:37.120 like warming up for that fight i hit mids for like three minutes and i sat down i was like i don't
00:10:42.520 want to be here man i even told my corner like i don't want to be here i've never been in a fight
00:10:46.200 so i was like i don't want to be here right now during the fight or this was like warming up for
00:10:49.920 the fight i hit mids for like three minutes and i was like i'm done they're like what's going on i
00:10:53.620 was like i don't want to fucking fight right now i don't i don't know what's going on i just felt
00:10:57.840 like i wanted to go home i was like i don't feel right i want to go home so i ended up fighting 15
00:11:01.620 fucking minutes and i remember like the next morning i went and took a piss and it was like black
00:11:09.380 so like even even my last fight i took a piss after the fight it was like cloudy and like brown
00:11:14.700 but that's happening you get hitting the kidneys like it bruised you'll piss out a little bit of
00:11:18.000 blood it's normal no i pissed after the law fight i pissed black i didn't take any damage to fight
00:11:23.020 but i pissed like black did you think you were melting i was like what's happening so i called
00:11:27.300 my father my father's a doctor i called my i called my mother she's a nurse she said call your father
00:11:30.880 i called my father he's like go to the hospital and have them run your pro tell them what happened
00:11:35.900 have them check your uh your uh urine for proteins go there have them check my urine for protein
00:11:42.100 doctor comes back he's like we're going to the icu i'm like why he's like you're dying he's like he's
00:11:47.500 like your kidneys are like dangly close to failing like this isn't like there's a problem you don't
00:11:52.020 drink or anything no i don't drink anything this was just like mike i had like so much protein built
00:11:57.500 up in my kidneys from the rhabdo that like my kidneys were like on the path to shutting down he's
00:12:02.020 like you could have died he's like the fact you fought stupid you could have died
00:12:05.760 like so that was probably the worst camp i ever had i literally almost killed myself
00:12:09.700 that was 13 years ago yeah 13 years ago yeah when are you gonna how old are you 35 36 36 like when
00:12:14.660 are you gonna retire is that the question i should ask who the fucking everybody asks anyway i don't
00:12:20.060 know man as a fighter the scariest shit ever is thinking about when i retire yeah because for me
00:12:26.140 like i started really pursuing this hard like 1920 so here we are 16 almost 17 years later you dropped
00:12:32.340 out um out of law school at 19 i was i was trying to get into law school i was talking about my
00:12:37.000 pre-rex and stuff i said i was gonna be lawyers that's what i'm gonna do and i was like you know
00:12:39.880 what i can either keep doing this and should go on that path of being a lawyer i can just leave and
00:12:44.400 like go fight and i'm doing my pre-rex and shit i'm just like this is i don't want to do this
00:12:48.460 forever i love fighting why did you have uh that desire to fight what was the background you come up
00:12:54.040 to like i have no idea where does that come from oh god i just told this story my father the other
00:12:59.140 day i came to plain point the moment i realized i wanted to be a fighter i was uh i was like what
00:13:06.700 like 70 i think seven years old eight years old my cousin anthony came into town yeah he's staying
00:13:11.140 with us for the i think like christmas or whatever and this is back in the day so he had a sega saturn
00:13:16.580 and he had a sega saturn yeah you're old yeah he had a virtual fighter on sega saturn i've always
00:13:23.500 liked martial arts and shit but i saw i was playing virtual fighter and the match was kage versus uh
00:13:28.320 wolf and i'm watching these like fucking like do all these fucking crazy moves and i was like
00:13:33.440 that's it because he's like he's playing the game he's going to all these stages doing they're like
00:13:38.460 different fighting styles doing shit and i'm like that's what i want to do like that's it so like
00:13:43.140 seven years old playing virtual fighter i was like that's it i'd played street fighter before
00:13:46.920 that i was i always loved it like yeah it was cool but for some reason fucking virtual fighter i was
00:13:51.060 like that's what i'm gonna do why do you think you had like guys like mike tyson it's like they
00:13:55.100 came from like a really rough you know they had to fight their way out of circumstances they make
00:13:59.060 document you know why was it why do you think it was a video game what do you think was ingrained
00:14:01.920 in you that made you want to become a fighter because i grew up in the fucking like 90s guys
00:14:05.800 so this is remind you this is when video games first started getting like good
00:14:09.480 well you got like fucking like virtual fighter street fighter tekken so we had video games and
00:14:14.160 anime influenced my life in the worst way when i was like in like sixth grade i guess like god it
00:14:18.820 was like fourth grade maybe dragon ball z came to the u.s so that was in third grade yeah because
00:14:23.940 dragon ball z used to come on at 6 30 a.m on star 64 so i came across that shit on accident one day
00:14:29.740 and like motherfuckers out here like doing kung fu throwing fireballs i'm playing virtual fighter i'm like
00:14:34.860 why wouldn't i want to do this but mind you i'm a child not realizing like i'll never reach this
00:14:40.040 level of like anime bullshit but young me was like yes that's what we'll do so as i got older i started
00:14:46.480 doing like karate and boxing and shit i just fell in love with it i just love fighting man i've always
00:14:50.760 liked fighting you were like my mom's fear actualized my mom didn't want me to play video
00:14:56.160 games because she thought i was going to become violent you actually are living proof that video
00:14:59.740 games make you violent yeah it should happen like yeah man it's fucked up uh i've never done anything
00:15:03.420 terrible but like yeah video games and cartoons made me a violent human being i've always wanted
00:15:07.720 like man i can go fight people i can go beat people up we'll fight each other like sean's a
00:15:13.000 guy who wants to beat the shit out of somebody and watch them break yeah i want to have that death
00:15:17.440 match like in my head all these years i'm still waiting for my cartoon death match like like guys
00:15:22.300 on top of the final boss yeah they're on top of a fucking mountain it's raining i'm fighting
00:15:25.500 my kung fu teacher we got to kill him to like succeed like i'm waiting for that battle still in my head
00:15:30.600 so i don't want to fight like maybe this will be the guy that kills me you know that's that's
00:15:34.620 like a cool thing to me i'm like bro what if we have a battle and like one of us like i die
00:15:38.520 i wouldn't be mad i bet it'd be a cool way to go so my views on fighting even at 36 are entirely
00:15:44.900 unrealistic still right i make sound effects when i fight still sometimes but i laugh at myself
00:15:49.140 i make like people what are you doing i'm like bro it's it's it's i can't fix it i've always done it so
00:15:58.300 like my views on fighting are entirely unrealistic i never thought that a guy like that from the
00:16:02.720 camp will come up in video games would actually become a very successful usc fighter bro i'm the
00:16:06.760 most combat ready nerd you'll ever meet it's fucking hilarious so i don't know why but like
00:16:10.200 yeah like i can't sing and i can't dance it's either this or work nine to five so the two options
00:16:15.200 yeah right how much were you training when you were in law school oh dude how active were you
00:16:19.140 before you became pro i was training oh god bro so i was like i was in my pre-rex for like for
00:16:26.300 that and like here's the thing i had a newborn kid and i would get up go to school come home get the
00:16:35.160 kid and then on days i didn't have school we would draw god so if i didn't have school it'd be like
00:16:41.320 9 a.m we get up hit the bus i didn't have a car so i put this newborn in his car seat on the bus for
00:16:47.200 hour and a half bus ride to the other side of the fucking town be there from 10 o'clock to 8 p.m.
00:16:53.600 at night put him back on the bus go home so i mean i was i was at the gym from 10 a.m. to 8 because
00:16:59.140 like i had a kid had to pack my shit for the day and like that's just what we did so i mean seven
00:17:04.420 seven days a week i'm at the gym five of those days i've got a fucking newborn in a car seat sitting
00:17:09.660 there uh it's just a man like i spent all of my fucking kids early life in the gym he grew up like
00:17:16.000 on the mat every day just watching he's 16 now right he's 16 yeah is he good he's no interest in
00:17:21.560 fighting he's no no interest in fighting he's like all interest in video games he's a gamer he
00:17:26.460 wants to be an engineer i'm like dude do that and people are like oh your kid needs to be a badass
00:17:30.940 like he needs to be tough i'm like okay here's the thing guys tough man can kill maybe 10 guys
00:17:35.580 engineers intelligent people can kill millions so like we'll go that way like who's a real tough guy
00:17:40.760 hey bro oppenheimer killed thousands of people very true i understand like yeah so i i enjoy these
00:17:46.940 kids want to fight that's fine like i would never want my i would never if my kids wanted to fight
00:17:51.960 that's what they really wanted i would support it but i would never want that for them especially
00:17:57.020 because i did it i would never want my kids to fight because i did some fucking miserable life
00:18:00.640 like starting out so why do you do it for so long you've had you've had so like how many pro
00:18:06.180 fights you are 40 42 combination of i've invested all of my time eggs and skill points into fighting
00:18:13.580 yeah and for me i love i love it i i love fighting i love the active fighting getting to the fight is
00:18:19.900 the hard part and then for me not just like i train i train all the time it's fine one of the worst
00:18:26.460 things though is the emotional roller coaster that fighting brings when you win it's great
00:18:34.320 when you lose no fucking worst job in the world especially like when you get on tv and people see
00:18:40.260 you lose and then everyone has an opinion of why you lost you can go being the best guy in the world
00:18:44.160 you lose one fucking i don't mean is it me and izzy aren't the greatest of friends i don't i don't
00:18:48.500 like izzy i don't think he likes me but i'll never disrespect izzy for his ability like dude's a
00:18:54.000 fucking he's done more than most of the people ever do anything in their lives and like when
00:18:58.120 izzy lost to sean i'm happy for sean but my respect i never once said a bad thing about izzy in that
00:19:03.700 loss like bro he's one of the best dudes ever the best guy who's ever done i don't fucking like the
00:19:08.320 guy but i think he's one that i'll never disrespect his skills ever fucking ever you got people going
00:19:13.660 i see i saw people go like oh izzy's the best guy in the world he's gonna kill sean he loses the
00:19:18.860 fight izzy's a fucking bum yeah i'm like bro they forget about his entire career and
00:19:23.880 how long he's been at the top i'm not even a huge fan of the man and i'm like bro like how do you
00:19:28.200 guys disrespect the dude yeah obviously there's some similarities black nerd yeah but maybe that's
00:19:34.160 why i don't know like you look across i don't know it's a spider-man yeah but maybe it is i don't
00:19:39.340 know but like i fucking i hate it like it kills me i'm like bro this dude's done more than most
00:19:44.200 people will ever do in their entire life yeah the switch up is insane the switch up is real so like
00:19:48.240 that shit's hard too man like you gotta learn to deal with that so i would i would never wish that on
00:19:52.880 anybody but at the same time like for the people that truly love fighting like what else are you
00:19:57.680 gonna do like what like for the people who are like bro i wake up fucking my dick gets hard thinking
00:20:03.120 about fighting people what else you're gonna do if you can't fight that's why retirement's scary
00:20:07.080 you're like bro where do i go from here what the fuck am i gonna do after this so that's the scary
00:20:11.320 part is you're like man it's such a high it's it's an addiction man it's such a fucking high is
00:20:16.640 there any feeling that compares to getting in the octagon with someone else i tell people i would
00:20:20.840 rather fight than fuck like i'm i'm a big i'd rather fight than fuck bro and like it's there's
00:20:26.760 nothing quite like it and like that that's it's a drug man it's it's all all of us who like stay in
00:20:33.900 it you're for one reason or another maybe it's the win maybe it's the fight maybe say your notoriety
00:20:39.300 it's a fucking drug what do you do when it's gone that's that's why you see people who stick
00:20:43.000 around way too long because like it's you're tony ferguson you're saying yeah fuck tony oh but you
00:20:50.920 chase that high man you do and like that's the scary part is like when it's time you're like every
00:20:57.260 all of us are like i got more i've still got more i can do more even now at 36 i'm like yeah you gotta
00:21:02.000 get some time yeah i still got good tread in the tires i've had a lot of fights but thank god i got
00:21:08.020 good genes i'm durable as fuck uh but yeah man even now you have to think like you know that
00:21:13.280 that clocks i'm at the i'm at the tail end of my career that's a scary thought man it's a really
00:21:17.340 fucking scary thought what sort of mental endurance do you think you have that other people don't have
00:21:20.540 to have such a long career and to get over that the possibility of a loss i tell people the biggest
00:21:27.480 the best base for mental endurance mma if you keep going keep going keep going
00:21:32.820 is you got to have your heart broken by a big titty goth girl in high school
00:21:36.460 because that's one of that's one of the keys to my longevity yeah is i have a furnace of white hot
00:21:42.980 rage from like 16 year old me to like 18 year old me there's like a furnace of white hot rage that
00:21:49.380 never got over and it lives deep inside from a big titty goth girl and she didn't i ended up we
00:21:54.920 ended up dating like god i bet we met we met when we were like 12 we did we did it off and on from
00:21:59.860 like 12 to 32 off and on i have like so much pent-up rage i've been holding on since i was 12 years old
00:22:07.380 it's still air i'll die angry it's fine like it's fine but that white hot rage is like it's been a
00:22:13.600 source of motivation so if you if you need your kids to like succeed go find pay a big titty goth
00:22:19.220 girl to break their hearts and they will fucking lose their shit so that's been my longevity what
00:22:23.100 did she do to you oh dude she did me so dirty and then i was oh fuck yeah then i was like stupid
00:22:28.980 it's like later in life we got back together i took her i took her back then i cheated on her
00:22:32.900 then we had the cheating olympics yeah you got your revenge though oh no it's such a toxic
00:22:39.020 relationship like oh my god it started when you were 12 yeah it's bad we met when we were 12
00:22:44.260 and then we dated from like 13 to like 32 33 oh it's terrible terrible decision making
00:22:52.220 he's like cheating olympics for like 10 years it's pretty pretty stupid but uh but it kept you in the
00:22:58.420 game this long oh yeah fuck yeah but there's that and there's that and uh well that's that's a big
00:23:03.700 one but honestly man i just i don't like losing i hate losing and when i do lose i'm one of those
00:23:12.680 guys i go back in and i'll spend the next month in the gym and figure out why i lost yeah are you the
00:23:18.060 type of guy to read all the reddit comments and watch the youtube videos and the mma nerds so
00:23:21.920 my biggest improvement of myself is i stopped reading the comments yeah you hate social media
00:23:27.300 i i i avoid my social media i don't read the comments and i don't like i don't even like go
00:23:32.540 on youtube videos check comments anymore i got the fuck off reddit like i don't check reddit
00:23:37.000 like your instagram got hacked or something because no no i don't for the most part i keep my instagram
00:23:41.180 off uh deactivated after a fight i had uh sponsor obligations and wanted to send my thank yous and
00:23:46.340 whatnot so i think i got like three more days before i could turn it back off then i'll go back into the
00:23:50.620 ether and like in my own business but i'm somebody that cares too much i always tell people like why
00:23:55.940 do you care so much i always tell people like what what is your job me yeah what is your job i have
00:24:04.540 several jobs i run a couple businesses but what what what's your passion my passion i think is making
00:24:10.100 movies it's something when you have a passion you want to be great at your passion right yeah of
00:24:16.160 course so i think i think i'm like a painter if i'm a painter and i love painting i want to do
00:24:21.160 beautiful artwork but not only for myself i want people to like i want to share it with people
00:24:25.700 right you want to share your passion with people right yeah but you want people to like that right
00:24:29.480 you want you like i don't need i don't need to have my fucking like i don't need to be jerked off
00:24:33.580 but i want to make something that other people can appreciate right right and when you do that when
00:24:38.800 you put your all into something you get a little bit crazy you start to lose your mind
00:24:42.240 and the biggest like jab to you is when you put your all on to something you give it your all
00:24:48.620 it's not appreciated i don't need you to i don't need you to fucking blow smoke on my ass yeah but
00:24:52.940 like understand that i want to do so i'm trying to make something beautiful that's how nazi germany
00:24:56.060 started i just i just look at my paintings you're a better painter than me huh motherfucker like oh yeah
00:25:01.700 and then that rage i mean that was his he really really well hitler did have like fucking painting
00:25:07.280 you imagine there's like one guy in germany who'd be like hey man it looks great
00:25:10.560 like we could like the case we'd be different if one guy was like hey man you're doing a good
00:25:14.200 good job keep it up he'd be like fuck all right like yeah every maybe this would not have happened
00:25:18.020 right now yeah right but then how do you know if your arts appreciate how do you know the job is
00:25:22.280 done if you don't look at social media what is it the crowd response after when do you get your
00:25:27.560 satisfaction i'm beginning so here's one i'm somebody who's biggest like one of my coaches here
00:25:32.060 manly always says the biggest chris the biggest chris curtis hater is chris curtis
00:25:35.820 i'm i'm my own biggest hater and like i have i'll never know when it'll be enough
00:25:40.720 so for me i think just for like my own like mental longevity in the same my career
00:25:45.700 i'm having to just i'm doing it now i'm making paintings and if somebody buys them cool if not
00:25:52.300 cool i take them to the shop i drop them off i'd never go back and like for me i'm just trying to
00:25:57.420 do things that i'm happy with as long as i like my painting i'm fine like this fight i watched it
00:26:03.640 i don't care what the fucking commentary so i went back i watched it i was so fucking proud of
00:26:06.700 myself there's things i did in the fight that i did well i fixed things i was doing badly i'm like
00:26:11.920 i'm happy i'm really happy with what i did like i made improvements and that's i gotta let that be
00:26:17.800 enough i'm learning i'm learning to let that be enough because i'm not great at that shit because
00:26:21.240 like they made fun of me like the fight's over 30 minutes later i'm in the back watching my fight
00:26:26.300 like criticizing myself and they're like you just fought like you just fought a fucking fight in the
00:26:30.540 ufc that's something most of the world will never do and you're back here you look like somebody
00:26:34.640 shot your dog like criticizing yourself i'm like fuck bro you're right so it's a work in progress
00:26:39.360 man are you ever satisfied with what you do are you always trying to find for a second yeah for a
00:26:44.120 second and then it's on to the next one it's it's what happens when you love something but when you
00:26:48.200 love something more than you love yourself it's so hard because like you'll give yourself that
00:26:52.780 moment if i fucking did it and then walking out the cage i'm the happiest guy in the world
00:26:57.220 30 minutes later in the back i'm picking myself apart it's a high and a low as soon as you feel
00:27:01.240 that euphoria then it dips all the way back down to misery and for me i have a bad habit of like
00:27:06.200 not letting myself appreciate things because i'm like well the moment i appreciate it the moment i
00:27:10.900 like stop perhaps i'm gonna give us a pat on the back i'm like shit goes wrong i could be getting
00:27:14.420 better you get complacent yeah complacency is the enemy i'm learning to like balance that with like
00:27:19.600 hey man like give some fucking pat on the back give yourself a good job like let yourself celebrate
00:27:23.560 your moment so it's a work in progress but i mean like you you love something like you fucking like
00:27:28.000 you fucking love making videos movies you're always looking for the next thing how do i make it better
00:27:32.100 how do i change this how do i change this how do i have better content how do i do this it's it's a
00:27:36.700 never-ending battle for people who love for that who i love bigger than themselves what do you mean
00:27:42.300 you're kind of crazy when you put yourself when you put your all into something you become crazy you're
00:27:46.400 like what do you mean you mean like you're vincent man go like you're gonna bro van go hey man i put my heart
00:27:50.520 my soul in my work and in the process i've lost my mind like it's dude i lose sleep like shout out
00:27:59.140 shout out to my lady man because she got they actually my lady and my exes they put up with
00:28:03.480 shit too but i'm a guy i'll lose sleep i'm irritable i don't want to talk like you know i it's 4 a.m
00:28:10.620 like i go take a run because i can't stop thinking about it i'm beating myself up but i don't you know
00:28:15.160 like i don't want to hang out i don't want to spend time with my family because like i'm so
00:28:19.360 immersed immersed and then like what i have to do the fighting is hard for you but i always say it's
00:28:26.340 so much worse for people around you fighters have hard lives people who love fighters have even harder
00:28:31.440 lives like their lives definitely worse because they've got to deal with it and like the more
00:28:36.660 you're invested into it the more you become somebody different and like even now at 36 i have so much
00:28:43.060 guilt over like the amount of time i didn't spend with my kid growing up he's 16 happy kid happy life
00:28:50.640 but there's so much guilt i can like remember times and he wanted to do stuff i can't but i gotta go
00:28:54.720 practice i can't gotta go to a fight and like i've got so much guilt about that but at the time
00:28:59.680 it's so all-consuming it seems just as important and like when you love when you have like that much
00:29:07.040 passion about something it does start to like eclipse everything else and it's not till later
00:29:12.860 you're like fuck bro did i make the right choice i love what i do man i love what i do i got so much
00:29:17.580 guilt over the way i treated like my family and people around me because i was obsessed and like
00:29:22.820 to be great at something you have to have an obsession you have to be obsessed everybody who
00:29:26.040 loves something wants to be great at it so all of us have like some form of it's worse in some than
00:29:31.200 others but all of us have an obsession and like obsession is very rarely without casualties and like
00:29:38.100 fuck man the people around you the casualties and that but you don't regret anything
00:29:42.100 i regret it all i regret i regret it all but i don't think that's a bad thing because there's
00:29:50.280 always a way to do it differently i regret the time that i lost i regret the choices i didn't make
00:29:55.660 i'm choosing i didn't take but at the same time i don't know even with that regret i don't know what
00:30:01.180 else i would do like this is giving me like a life i can be proud of i can take care of my family
00:30:08.160 my kids taking care of i can take care of my parent and my mom like i've got a life and i would never
00:30:13.440 have had doing anything else doing the thing i love so there's a ton of regrets but you can regret
00:30:19.320 something and still love nothing's gonna be perfect you can love something like it pick pick the chick
00:30:23.560 of your dreams but you can love her to death she's still not perfect but you can still love her
00:30:26.840 anyway fighting's the same way man fighting's a very demanding uh bipolar mistress but man you still
00:30:34.920 love her how does khabib not get tired if you're saying that attacking is way more tiring than
00:30:40.480 uh defending why why was khabib able to do that for five rounds mentally very strong so dan strauss
00:30:47.180 was a good bell to the featherweight champion i trained came up with training with him one of the
00:30:51.600 best wrestlers ever in ohio who never like won a state title apparently but i watched dan strauss
00:30:55.980 smoke a pack of barboa reds before a five rounds title fight back home yeah went out there fought
00:31:01.340 five rounds a whole pack whole pack yeah it's probably like five or six barboa reds goes out
00:31:06.360 there fights a five-round fight gasses the other guy out five rounds is pure wrestling we always ask
00:31:12.160 like dan how the fuck are you smoking and like training yeah he said bro he said cardio is a state
00:31:16.480 of mind i was like that's not true but like i get what he's saying it's like yeah cardio matters
00:31:21.980 but at the end of the day kind of like sean you never really see sean do cardio but he doesn't
00:31:28.380 allow himself to quit like mentally he won't let himself quit and mentally it's more important for
00:31:33.460 him to like die than to let you beat him so i think a big part of that in the khabib is like
00:31:37.960 i know i'm tired but i care more about winning than i care about me like being tired yeah that's a big
00:31:44.960 part of it like there's sometimes when fights to shit in his last fight fucking third round i was
00:31:48.640 starting to get tired like fuck man he's just like not stopping and using a lot of gas and then uh
00:31:53.120 eric's like you got two minutes left and i was like i care more about dying like more about winning
00:31:57.320 than i do about dying in these last two minutes so you fucking push yourself okay i know i'm tired
00:32:02.280 but winning means more than like me being tired i don't care if my fucking heart stops right now
00:32:08.620 like winning to me means more so you fucking bite down you keep going you've got how i tell people
00:32:14.220 you've got you've got way more than you think you do but your body as a general rule of thumb
00:32:19.660 will make you quit your mind will quit before your body does so when i'm tired when i'm training and
00:32:24.480 like i can't feel like i can move anymore and i'm getting dizzy that's a mental fatigue that's not a
00:32:28.200 body fatigue it can be both it can be both the trick is the longer you go and the more the farther
00:32:33.760 you push into that zone let's call that the red zone the farther you push into the red zone
00:32:38.180 the bigger the red zone gets or the smaller red zone gets and the more you can be in there
00:32:42.400 so sometimes like sometimes if you're fucking going 110 and you're like dizzy and shit that
00:32:47.880 may be your max but the more time you get to that point and the more time you spend in that point
00:32:52.800 that max gets farther and farther away okay i can do this more and more and more so yeah you can
00:32:57.940 redline yourself i've been fucking i fought so hard i threw up in the back before but i still finished
00:33:03.180 it pretty much becomes how much can you suffer now in order to win because you'll suffer now you'll
00:33:10.520 suffer later but mentally you can make yourself you can probably nine percent of the time you can
00:33:16.600 make yourself do more so when you're giving the speech after the fight how much of that is adrenaline
00:33:20.680 because like i'm trained to the point where like i can't even talk like for 20 minutes afterwards i
00:33:24.620 just have to like have you heard some of the after fight speeches because you're like your brains
00:33:29.860 you've been hitting the head probably and you're fucking pumped up on like a shit ton of adrenaline
00:33:34.240 to where it's great everyone who leaves the fight you'll fight 15 minutes 25 minutes you'll leave the
00:33:38.980 fight yeah i'm fine yeah i'm great i see the doctor i'm great i'm great i'm great 15 minutes
00:33:43.180 later you're like oh my god everything hurts you don't fucking die that adrenaline is fucking it's
00:33:47.640 a shit ton of adrenaline but the dump is real so it's like everybody sounds retarded in their post
00:33:51.320 fight speech you're just like high on life you're fucking like three times adrenaline you need
00:33:55.060 i think you sound retarded when it's over how much of the fight are you in the red zone
00:33:59.820 like last fight for example just in the last like two minutes of the third round
00:34:06.520 to where i was like okay like i'm starting like he was he started pressuring more and more
00:34:11.740 and i was already doing a pretty high output than i'm used to i normally do
00:34:15.140 and then like for me he was clenching a lot so when you got somebody clenching you
00:34:19.460 it starts to like drain on you really fast he looks a lot bigger than you i'm not gonna lie
00:34:23.180 i'm a welterweight in real life but like but he's a big dude so you got a big guy like grabbing
00:34:29.100 you and clenching you and pushing forward it's gonna make you like okay like i have to turn the gear up
00:34:32.760 so eric's telling me the entire time like don't let him get don't let him get ahead of you like
00:34:38.360 stay ahead of him stay ahead so i'm trying to throw more and more and more which they get him
00:34:42.100 throw more so at some point we're both just going and going and going to where like the last two
00:34:46.520 minutes there was a point to where i was like fuck fuck fuck fuck like you know i'm trying to like
00:34:50.400 monitor how much energy i have left and eric's like you got two minutes like don't let him get
00:34:54.060 ahead i'm like fuck all right i was like you know what at that point i decided like at two minutes i'm
00:34:58.200 like if i die i die so what like if my heart gives out it was a good run good story to tell
00:35:04.080 my kids got insurance money it's fine so you have to make that decision like
00:35:07.440 i care more about winning than i do my health and at that point like you know you know like you're
00:35:12.660 fucking hurting you're dizzy fucking hearts exploding you're like what matters more beating
00:35:17.960 you or like feeling better and that's the choice you have to make for yourself some i mean there's
00:35:23.140 times where you're like fuck it i i you know i'm gonna save myself i don't i don't want to feel
00:35:26.460 like this people do it all the time but you get good to decide like what means more to you like
00:35:31.060 because you'll pushing through don't get me wrong nine out of ten times you'll pay for that shit
00:35:34.580 later like when you go in the back you're gonna feel it you get that point every single fight of
00:35:38.380 like life or death in your head nah you i want to but you don't okay there are some fights so like
00:35:44.160 you say yeah like i mean like people are like oh you're cruising through fights i'm like well it
00:35:48.020 just depends on the fight man i've always said i've always had coaches say i have my biggest
00:35:51.460 problems i fight to the level of my competition if you're good i'm gonna try to match you if you're
00:35:55.380 shitty i'm gonna fuck with you like whatever uh it just depends on the guy man like i never
00:36:00.960 redlined at phil hall i didn't redline with brendan allen uh i didn't redline with buckley
00:36:06.300 but it's just the pace i fight at but there are some like i think that fight actually i think the
00:36:11.460 first fight in the mc i had no no i read that with rodolfo viera he shot like 26 takedowns
00:36:17.040 24 takedowns and i stopped them all but i was like okay like starting to test cardio now
00:36:22.160 the third round of that fight i remember sprawling on one i sprawled he shot twice in a row i sprawled
00:36:26.660 on both i'm getting i'm standing up and i'm like i got up really slow and i was like oh fuck that's
00:36:31.820 bad like yeah so that was the first ufc fight i was like okay like now we're in that bad territory
00:36:36.980 like you guys start thinking like how much do i have left and how do i like save it because fuck
00:36:42.020 i remember getting up that takedown and i got up slow well i stood up it was like one knee the
00:36:47.080 other knee like hands on knees like push yourself back up i was like oh that sucks did you hear a corner in
00:36:51.460 that moment what did they say oh you're just like get up get up i'm just like fuck and then uh
00:36:56.060 i think i redlined the last round of uh gasoline to where i was we're just throwing so many
00:37:04.480 that was brutal i was there for that fight that was brutal we're just throwing so many punches so
00:37:08.000 i was just like i was trying to kill him just trying to kill me nothing was working i think like that
00:37:12.620 was that was another one i was like okay like i'm starting to hurt to where i felt like i started
00:37:16.520 feeling sick at the end of that fight end of that round because we were throwing so much i'm like bro like
00:37:20.560 just keep throwing yeah both of you just have a ridiculous chin it's just would you rematch
00:37:24.600 gasoline fuck yeah i would fucking do it in a heartbeat i'm still trying to get that like yeah
00:37:28.140 so i'm hoping he goes with the 85 not maybe just follow him to 70 but i'm fucking not like he i won
00:37:32.460 that fight and he'll never argue otherwise with me but like i'll get it back it's fine if you're a
00:37:36.440 welterweight or hard why are you fighting in middleweight also congrats for getting the top 15
00:37:39.420 oh thanks yeah i'm fucking what 13 now something like that no i uh i got signed at 85
00:37:45.560 because when i fought phil hall's i was 50 fighting at 170 like three weeks after that fight
00:37:50.740 and i got they signed me on short notice 24 hours notice to fight so i take that fight at 85
00:37:55.640 and i was like okay like whatever when there's a draw i'll go up to i'll go up to 70 it's whatever
00:37:59.840 knocked phil hall's out so then i was like okay i'm gonna go to 70 two weeks later they're like
00:38:04.020 he fight brendan allen i'm like sure fought brendan allen knocked him out two weeks later yeah so
00:38:08.880 that was what i fought and then four weeks later i had my second fight because they were like two
00:38:12.700 weeks after after the brendan uh the phil hall's fight they keep fighting two weeks so yeah sure
00:38:15.860 did that knocked him out i'm like okay well now they're like you're doing great can you stay 85
00:38:21.020 i'm like i guess i'm doing okay so then i started fighting there i beat uh hood off over here yep
00:38:26.360 and they're like you're like you're pretty quickly getting ranked i'm like well fuck it i guess i'm
00:38:28.840 85 right now so yeah i was a career welterweight and now i'm like all right guess i'm 85 right now
00:38:33.520 which is nice man not cutting not cutting a shit ton of weights nice i can make 85 like pretty easy my
00:38:38.400 life isn't miserable i'm not a dick to my girl it's it's pretty nice okay yeah how bad was the
00:38:42.640 weight cut for your last fight the way the way last time was it was easy i was dieting for
00:38:47.480 months i was dieting for like two months so i think i walked in a fight week at 195 it's only
00:38:56.680 10 take 10 11 pounds it's easy yeah i ended up cutting like nine probably eight pounds well of
00:39:03.180 water and that was easy so like one gallon of water is easy like took me like an hour and a half
00:39:07.100 maybe two hours easy then what would you recommend for like tall lanky string bean guys like me
00:39:11.800 should i fight at 155 160 like if you're not being paid don't cut weight like what do you weigh
00:39:16.500 i'm like 165 55 really 55 season yeah you're not being you're not being paid like well they're 65
00:39:24.840 you start training oh let's do the math here 65 so we'll say you start training
00:39:31.080 you'll probably like consistently and hard you'll probably hit 60
00:39:34.740 you're pretty you're pretty like thin though uh i think 55 amy would be fine maybe 45 i think 45 is
00:39:45.040 possible if you actually feel like doing the work and you lose nine 45 i would say 45 but the flip
00:39:50.080 side as an amy you're not being paid right so i'm a big fan of not cutting i tell guys if you're not
00:39:55.740 getting paid don't cut weight like you only get so many weight cuts it's really that miserable it's
00:39:59.780 depending on like especially for smaller guys because if you got we got less weight to lose
00:40:03.160 that's that's the thing like i can lose a decent amount of weight because i'm a pretty stocky guy
00:40:07.720 but you're not a very big human being so like the weight that's coming off of you is going to be
00:40:11.620 pretty painful but it's going to hurt so you see like smaller guys have harder weight cuts for less
00:40:16.620 weight they've got less mass to lose remember your muscle is going to play a big part in how much
00:40:21.640 water you have more muscle more water more water to lose if you're not a stockier dude like a lanky dude
00:40:27.580 like you're pulling water from some shit you don't want to pull water from
00:40:30.960 like what your kidney organs your everything i guess so like losing 10 pounds is harder for a guy
00:40:36.920 it's not worth it a tall skinny guy as opposed to like you know a bulky guy what type of what type
00:40:41.660 of strength training do you do uh but one thing is like i noticed in your last fight like your neck
00:40:46.700 is like bigger than people's bro i have i have the strongest neck in ufc uh so the ufc this thing
00:40:52.360 they record your neck strength yeah i have the strongest neck recorded like seriously i have
00:40:56.280 are you doing the mike tyson workouts where you're like getting in the middle of the ring and like
00:40:59.420 spinning in circles i just got a big ass head man i got i got a big ass head so i was like you know
00:41:03.200 i've always had a big head so i think my neck just grew to be like support my massive head
00:41:07.200 then you add boxing and wrestling on top of it especially if like boxing and like wrestling
00:41:11.200 wrestling muay thai really half of your training is a guy pulling on your fucking neck like wrestling
00:41:16.120 you're fucking always fighting hand fighting muay thai clink you got people pulling on your neck so
00:41:20.080 just having a big head and fucking uh years of doing the same thing like yeah just strong neck
00:41:25.300 but i realize that your head doesn't look as big because proportionally your neck's bigger so for
00:41:29.220 big head people you get a big neck it's great yeah but my head is massive and like oh man like my
00:41:33.220 fucking and my kid's got a massive head now i'm like fuck like bro his mom's had a big head too so
00:41:37.240 we laugh at him like that kid's gonna have a fun even the kid three months old like like from like
00:41:41.660 probably four three weeks he can hold his neck up it's like yeah like strong fucking neck like he's got
00:41:46.020 to his fucking head is giant so uh yeah it's just what it's it's one of those natural
00:41:49.920 things like i've got a big neck like wide back you're tall got long arms just some some shit
00:41:55.400 you're gifted to like you don't have to work out you're just gifted with uh everybody's different
00:41:59.340 but like strength training man i strength twice a week strength uh i'm not a huge fan of weight
00:42:04.420 lifting i get bored yeah i don't like weight lifting i'd rather fight so but like i at 85 i have to lift
00:42:10.300 so i was doing like three days a week i'll get back to that right now you're doing like heavy weight or
00:42:13.780 high reps with low weight oh it just depends on what you're doing it changes like for like outside of
00:42:17.680 camp i think we do like more weight uh heavier weight just to build strength and camp we do less
00:42:22.480 weight but like more like faster reps just for like explosive and whatnot like the pi does it a lot
00:42:28.000 it mostly gets like there's such a science to it they've got like my program figured out for like
00:42:34.220 from now until the next six months of like where i should be what we should do but that's just like
00:42:39.340 less meathead lifting and more like you're a fighter these are the things you should be doing these
00:42:45.180 the most of the exercises you need this is how you should be doing them so before the pi i didn't
00:42:49.780 lift at all i was like i'm not lifting weights i'm just gonna fight they've got me lifting and whatnot
00:42:54.020 i got pretty strong from this that's nice but if they didn't make me do it i wouldn't do it i hate
00:42:58.840 lifting weights it's my least favorite thing in the world do you notice it translate into your
00:43:01.720 fighting that much oh yeah i i'm so much stronger than i was like i remember when i first started here
00:43:06.760 versus like now even my wrestling i'm so much stronger than i was to where like
00:43:11.280 they're tired you know i have my good friend albert he laughs like fucking uh russian
00:43:14.840 he used to bully me on the ground he's so good wrestling and the last time we were wrestling
00:43:19.100 i just like squatted and i picked him up he's on my back just picked him up and squatted he's just
00:43:22.700 like what he's like hey brother what is this brother like yeah just squatted him up he's laughing
00:43:26.580 like what the hell is that i'm like yeah man so definitely a big big big difference like
00:43:31.000 those russian guys don't fuck around either brother so strong all of them are so strong like i don't
00:43:34.860 know what they were given or what they do but like all i say when i retire from fighting
00:43:39.540 i want this i want steroids i want the ones the russian olympic team has like i want that shit
00:43:44.300 i want to give me a box of like having a hammer and sickle on it open that shit like smoke comes
00:43:48.640 out there's like green vials of liquid that's the shit i want because like i'm gonna feel
00:43:53.280 terrible when i retire i already feel terrible i'm gonna feel bad i want the shit the russians
00:43:56.760 have but whatever they have give me all of it you think that all the dog saying guys are on
00:44:00.660 steroids uh i don't know man it's weird it's like your side is i don't know how your side of
00:44:04.440 works somewhere else uh i hear that conspiracy all the time that they have the best doctors the
00:44:09.440 russian steroids russia's not known for like good sportsmanship with like drugs right so like
00:44:14.880 uh i don't i wouldn't be surprised they're they're not fucking known for being uh playing fair yeah
00:44:21.660 oh i'll say fair i don't know if we're playing fair like yeah but fuck bro yeah you know you can
00:44:28.060 only get busted so many times at the olympics before like you know what maybe your whole program
00:44:31.140 is pretty shitty like yeah i think i've been like banned more than anyone else like yeah so
00:44:35.440 have you been tempted in your career it's been a long time you've never taken oh i wish i had
00:44:40.460 fuck bro so like you wish you cheated oh fuck yeah fuck hell yeah like dude so i remember in my
00:44:46.240 early gym like i remember sucking so bad and getting beat up all the time for years getting
00:44:52.120 fucked up for years for years i started doing better and at the time they realized it was when
00:44:57.380 you saw that first like the drug testing first time they're happening now i'm like why am i getting
00:45:01.060 good all of a sudden they're like chris everyone's not on steroids everyone's clean now i'm like what
00:45:05.640 they get the only guy who wasn't on steroids i'm like god damn it no one told me i thought we i
00:45:11.300 thought we were off like no i was the only guy not on steroids you motherfuckers i'm getting beat up
00:45:15.460 every day like i suck i'm never gonna be good at this i think a side i came around all of a sudden
00:45:19.520 i'm really fucking good i'm like you goddamn sons of bitches so uh it's funny man i'm grateful i never
00:45:25.380 i never had i was never opposed to steroids i was just too poor to afford them at the time oh okay
00:45:31.640 so now that i can i can't take them but it kind of helped me out because i realized once a lot of
00:45:35.900 guys i knew who were on roids got off the confidence left yeah and i never had that confidence boost man
00:45:41.720 i just sucked and had to like work my way through it i get fucked up every day and keep showing up
00:45:45.860 and i never i never had to go through losing that confidence so like when your side i came oh i
00:45:50.640 get tested i'm like well i don't have to quit anything like i i look exactly the same now as
00:45:55.380 i did that actually i look bigger now than i was then so it's just nice because i never had the
00:46:00.260 confidence to like lose so hey it helped me out i wouldn't you know looking back on it my life would
00:46:05.900 have been easier at the same time in the long run just wouldn't have fucked me over so hard did you
00:46:09.920 have you noticed any like brain damage problems or anything like that you said you talk about how
00:46:14.140 getting beat up in the gym quite a bit like you didn't you seem coherent now how you worry about like
00:46:18.280 losing brain cells i'm pretty lucky man i think uh it's funny i'm always like oh man like cte but
00:46:24.360 then talking to my mom the day my father like you've never had a good memory in your entire life
00:46:27.780 and like i'm like i get i'm like really like a scatterbrain my father was telling a story yesterday
00:46:32.040 he's like used to like tell you to do something you'd walk 10 feet and then you'd be off in the air
00:46:35.920 as a child so he's like you've always been like this so i mean i'm lucky like at the end of the day
00:46:41.240 you gotta remember some people go through the entire they're a boxer look at marvin haggler
00:46:46.040 due to being wars 24 7 left with all his wits intact like some people are lucky uh i think i'm
00:46:52.280 just lucky man so far i've been really lucky uh my memory sucks but apparently it's always been bad
00:46:56.800 i still remember that big titty golf girl pretty vividly uh big titty golf girls will scar you and
00:47:02.100 they they leave lasting impressions you never forget a good big titty golf girl you never
00:47:05.620 r&p all right pull one out for him fuck yeah but i'm lucky man some people get it i know people
00:47:12.740 who fought less than i did who had it way worse and you know who showed some interesting signs
00:47:18.000 i know an olympian olympic boxer who's fucking like taking so much damage like fuck bro like
00:47:23.560 look at him like damn bro this dude was an olympian and now he's just fucked up so i'm grateful
00:47:29.220 man i'm really lucky i guess i came from fucking really good durable stock and uh i just kept my
00:47:34.940 wits so far that's nice it's like a knock on wood but uh hopefully i leave with all of them attacked
00:47:38.840 i want to see like 70 year old me because like i'm wondering will i be like punch drunk crazy or
00:47:44.580 just regular crazy so i'm very excited for that right i'm gonna be old man curtis i'm big on a
00:47:48.980 fucking yard like kids like baseballs will in my yard and shit when i shoot it like i keep going
00:47:53.760 on my curtis's yard i'm gonna be a crazy old man if i'm like not actually crazy i blame it on
00:47:58.260 fighting but it's gonna be a fun time i can see you in a rocking chair on the porch fucking miserable
00:48:02.120 i will have a yard full of frisbees and shit and footballs yelling shit at the neighbors kids will
00:48:06.060 sneak over to get them i'll shoot the frisbee like i'm gonna be a dick i can't wait i'm excited about it