SNEAKO - SNEAKO & Jake Shields Full Podcast： Future MMA Streams, Nick Fuentes & Adin Ross, & More

00:00:00 What's up guys?

00:00:01 Jake Shields here with Sneeko.

00:00:02 Thanks for having me.

00:00:03 Yeah, man.

00:00:04 Thanks for coming on.

00:00:05 Good to be back.

00:00:06 Good to see you again.

00:00:07 Yeah, exactly.

00:00:08 It's been a while.

00:00:09 It's been a while.

00:00:10 Yeah, we've known you guys what?

00:00:11 Two years, year and a half or something?

00:00:12 Something like that.

00:00:13 Yeah.

00:00:14 When was the last time you've been to Florida?

00:00:15 A couple months ago, not that long.

00:00:16 And you're here for this party?

00:00:17 Yeah, coming out with Pete, coming out.

00:00:18 I don't even know what you'd call this.

00:00:19 Some influencer thing or some kind of mansion on the beach.

00:00:21 It was funny.

00:00:22 As soon as I didn't know people were going to be here, I walked in and I could just tell

00:00:24 everybody was from Twitter.

00:00:25 Yeah, right.

00:00:26 Twitter world.

00:00:27 All the big Twitter people.

00:00:28 It's the way they talk.

00:00:29 Everyone speaks in punchlines.

00:00:30 Twitter language.

00:00:31 Yeah, Twitter language.

00:00:32 It's a little weird.

00:00:33 Making jokes about like Mein Kampf and some guy with the MAGA hat said, Salaam Alaikum.

00:00:37 I'm like, oh, this is Twitter.

00:00:38 Yeah, you forget Twitter's not the real world if you're on there too much.

00:00:40 You really do.

00:00:41 I spent about like six hours a day on Twitter.

00:00:43 I'm addicted to Twitter for sure.

00:00:44 I cut my time way down before I was on there way too much, but then I got demonetized.

00:00:48 It's probably a good thing.

00:00:49 So I'm like, all right.

00:00:50 Before I could use that as an excuse like, oh, I'm making good money on Twitter.

00:00:52 I'm working.

00:00:53 But now I'm like, all right.

00:00:54 I cut down to like an hour or something now.

00:00:56 Well, you still are working.

00:00:57 That's the bad part because influence still brings you revenue.

00:00:59 You're right.

00:01:00 So more people are going to find you.

00:01:01 You get more services there, more guests on your podcast.

00:01:03 Oh, exactly.

00:01:04 So I need the big Twitter and that's how I rationalize it that way.

00:01:06 How much were you making before you were demonetized?

00:01:08 I think around 10K a month.

00:01:10 When did that stop?

00:01:11 It stopped like about three months ago.

00:01:13 They never sent me an email saying why.

00:01:15 I appealed.

00:01:16 No response.

00:01:17 I've been making like $200 a month since the monetization started.

00:01:19 I don't know what you're doing.

00:01:21 Yeah, mine was good.

00:01:22 I know it was better than a lot of people.

00:01:23 I don't know why.

00:01:24 I know I do get good metrics, but then maybe there's other factors.

00:01:26 Because some people get paid.

00:01:27 It's weird how differently people get paid. 0.99

00:01:29 I'll see like those weird gay Jewish brothers. 1.00

00:01:32 What are they that cost? 1.00

00:01:33 The crazy things.

00:01:34 They'll say they get like $30 or something. 0.97

00:01:35 And I don't like those guys, but that's ridiculous. 0.95

00:01:37 They're not getting paid. 0.80

00:01:38 They only get $30?

00:01:39 They posted something like that.

00:01:40 Maybe I'm misquoting.

00:01:41 It was like $100.

00:01:42 But those guys, they might be dorks, but they still should be getting paid fairly.

00:01:45 I mean, I don't know if they're really getting engagement like that.

00:01:47 I see them everywhere, but I don't know if they're that popular.

00:01:49 I thought that they would be sucking up to Elon a lot.

00:01:51 I'm surprised it's that low. 0.96

00:01:52 No, I know they do.

00:01:53 So I'm surprised it's that low.

00:01:54 But then you'll see other accounts that aren't that big.

00:01:56 And they'll be like, I got $20,000 this time period.

00:01:58 Who's getting $20,000?

00:01:59 Some Asian girl posted something like that. 0.99

00:02:01 It was like 200,000 followers.

00:02:03 The last couple of weeks, the last couple of payouts.

00:02:05 I'm not going to say it.

00:02:06 Maybe she's friends with Elon.

00:02:08 Regardless, I don't want to use any other social media apps.

00:02:11 That's the best place for videos right now.

00:02:13 I don't even watch YouTube really.

00:02:14 I don't either.

00:02:15 I was joking about it because it's funny.

00:02:16 I have a podcast and I don't watch podcasts.

00:02:18 You don't watch YouTube videos.

00:02:19 It's only what I see on the clips like on Twitter.

00:02:21 The same thing.

00:02:22 All I do is watch clips.

00:02:23 It's like the best thing is to.

00:02:25 That's the only time I see you.

00:02:26 I remember Aiden called.

00:02:27 You know who Aiden is?

00:02:28 I'm like, yeah, because I've seen him clips of you.

00:02:30 Otherwise, I'd have no idea.

00:02:31 Are you still going to do that fight?

00:02:33 I mean, he's kind of AWOL.

00:02:35 He hasn't really called and contacted about it.

00:02:37 I saw a flyer with me on there.

00:02:38 If I made a fight, it would have to be decent pay.

00:02:42 I've done serious fights for a lot of years.

00:02:44 If they're paying real money, I would hop in and do it.

00:02:48 I would want to fight a real fighter too, not some YouTube guy.

00:02:51 Someone like Tyrone Whitley or a Robbie Lawler or an OG of the sport.

00:02:55 It doesn't make sense for me to fight unless there's another real fighter.

00:02:58 The pay has got to be decent.

00:03:01 He's kind of went away right now.

00:03:02 He's quitting gambling.

00:03:03 He's trying to renegotiate.

00:03:05 He credits me for helping him quit gambling.

00:03:08 That's great.

00:03:09 He's a good guy.

00:03:10 He's a good friend of yours.

00:03:12 I know you're a good guy.

00:03:13 He probably is.

00:03:14 Gambling is a real problem for a lot of people.

00:03:15 It's good he's quitting.

00:03:16 I saw a thing where Dana was talking about how much he gambles.

00:03:19 If Dana's saying that, you're like, oh, that must be a problem.

00:03:21 Every time I go to that Red Rock Casino, he's there.

00:03:23 He's known as a high level.

00:03:24 I've seen him gamble like half a million, like millions of dollars on blackjack.

00:03:28 The majority of people are losing money, not winning.

00:03:30 Maybe the few exceptions like Dan Bazzarian, but that's poker.

00:03:33 In blackjack, you can't really win long term.

00:03:35 I mean, that's the game it's designed to.

00:03:36 The probability that you win is 47%.

00:03:38 Yeah.

00:03:39 So I mean, by definition, most people are going to lose.

00:03:41 Even if you play perfectly, the odds are still against you.

00:03:43 So even if you're an amazing blackjack player, you're still at a slight, slight disadvantage.

00:03:47 47%.

00:03:48 Yeah.

00:03:49 I mean, you don't need to be a good blackjack player.

00:03:50 You can just ask the dealer.

00:03:51 If you ever play, you can just say, dealer, what does the book say?

00:03:54 And they know how the book memorized.

00:03:55 It's not that hard to memorize it.

00:03:56 But yeah, they stack the odds against you.

00:03:58 So you can't.

00:03:59 The only game you can win on is poker.

00:04:00 But you have to be really, really good.

00:04:02 Is Dan that good at poker?

00:04:03 He is.

00:04:04 But he said it's gotten a lot harder to make money because he said people are way better

00:04:07 than when he first started playing because there's all the software that teaches you.

00:04:10 People can learn online.

00:04:11 So he said it's way harder to make money now than it used to be.

00:04:14 Dan's also smart though.

00:04:15 He'll come.

00:04:16 He doesn't necessarily always go try and win the tournaments.

00:04:18 He goes and he'll go play with ballers that aren't that good and jack their money.

00:04:21 You know, he'll come home with, you know, I'm not talking about finance, but he does

00:04:24 really well sometimes.

00:04:25 Yeah.

00:04:26 He's had some nice ways.

00:04:27 He came home with some good chunks of money. 0.99

00:04:28 And I'm like, holy shit. 0.99

00:04:29 Yeah, millions. 0.99

00:04:30 Yeah, millions.

00:04:31 Exactly.

00:04:32 He came home with millions of dollars.

00:04:33 That's the problem with a lot of these skill based games that everyone, the skill

00:04:35 level has a rise for everybody.

00:04:36 Yeah.

00:04:37 Like Call of Duty, everyone's an expert now.

00:04:38 Chess, for example, if you play online, everyone's just memorized every move.

00:04:42 So there's not like a room for normal people to get in.

00:04:46 You have to start from zero and then immediately get to expert level very, very quickly.

00:04:49 Yeah.

00:04:50 No, he said when we started like 20 years ago, he said it was highly easy to make money.

00:04:53 But now he says, you got to be really, really good.

00:04:55 Even against the celebrities he plays?

00:04:56 Because I see him in the celebrity games.

00:04:57 Well, I think that's where he probably cleans up sometimes.

00:04:59 Or I think one night there was some really famous soccer player there for a week.

00:05:03 I know he cleaned up that week.

00:05:05 And you know, it's funny.

00:05:06 I see people online being like, oh, Dan's broke now.

00:05:08 Like the kind of money I see him coming home.

00:05:09 The only two broke to me.

00:05:10 Flying around private jets and chefs.

00:05:13 Who's saying he's broke?

00:05:14 People online are always saying that.

00:05:15 It's so weird.

00:05:16 Yeah.

00:05:17 I mean, there's people who just want to hate for whatever.

00:05:19 No, it is weird.

00:05:20 Well, we all get haters, I guess.

00:05:21 But it's so weird.

00:05:22 I remember like first I hang out with Dan and people like, why are you hanging out with

00:05:24 that grifter? 0.85

00:05:25 I'm like, dude, such like a good, like honest dude.

00:05:27 Well, same with you.

00:05:28 You get a lot of hate, but I've known you a couple of years.

00:05:29 You've been like so loyal.

00:05:31 You know, you're trustworthy.

00:05:32 We talk about things privately.

00:05:33 You're not going to spill it.

00:05:34 If I ask for a favor, you do it without thinking.

00:05:36 And then I see all these guys always hating on you.

00:05:37 It makes no sense to me.

00:05:38 It's just my industry is not, it's a different world.

00:05:41 You know, it doesn't incentivize that.

00:05:43 Loyalty is not something that exists within the streaming world.

00:05:46 It's so weird.

00:05:47 I saw this guy, Fauci.

00:05:48 He's like claiming you drinking, sleeping with girls.

00:05:51 But I've hung out with you a bunch and I've never seen you do this stuff.

00:05:53 And it's like, whether you did or didn't, which I've never seen you do this stuff. 0.96

00:05:55 But you just say stuff like that with someone who's supposedly your friend is such a dirtbag, 0.90

00:05:59 scummy thing to do.

00:06:00 Like it's amazing guys are like that.

00:06:01 Yeah.

00:06:02 I mean, that was unfortunate to say that he's older too.

00:06:04 He's like 35.

00:06:05 But that's the nature of streaming because that gets a lot of clicks.

00:06:09 People think that.

00:06:10 I saw that.

00:06:11 Yeah.

00:06:12 You saw it.

00:06:13 So whatever gets clicks, whether it's good or bad, people have this idea that all press

00:06:15 is a good press.

00:06:16 It's not true.

00:06:17 Bad press is bad.

00:06:18 You don't want to have negative attention around you.

00:06:19 But if you're streaming, it's just about views.

00:06:21 It doesn't matter if they're good views or bad views.

00:06:23 Cause a lot of people will be watching like a kick stream and they're just ready to see

00:06:27 somebody get in a car crash or they're just watching the stream because they want to 0.99

00:06:30 see him get shot or get punched in the face. 0.98

00:06:32 Yeah. 0.89

00:06:33 These aren't supporters.

00:06:34 This is negative.

00:06:35 This is the evil eye watching you all the times.

00:06:37 But they're still making money from that.

00:06:38 So they've been trained to think it's good.

00:06:40 Yeah.

00:06:41 A guy like that personally, I would never do anything with a guy.

00:06:43 If you're going to sit there and talk crap about someone who's been friends with 0.96

00:06:46 for years, I want nothing to do with people like that. 1.00

00:06:47 I find those people disgusting. 0.98

00:06:49 Yeah. 0.92

00:06:50 But he's kind of a, he's in a different scenario right now.

00:06:53 He's kind of a manic and…

00:06:55 So that gets a little tricky. 0.98

00:06:56 I had a friend that went crazy before and he talked a little crap and I forget. 0.69

00:06:59 And then he did it again? 0.99

00:07:00 He didn't do it a second time, but he did go crazy again. 0.99

00:07:01 He talked crap about other people, not me. 0.98

00:07:02 So I know it does suck when you see those situations. 0.96

00:07:03 So it can get a little tricky, like you said, if you're having a manic episode, but

00:07:06 it's still, it's just not okay.

00:07:07 Yeah.

00:07:08 The first time I had a friend that went manic, I forgave him.

00:07:09 Went away, mental hospital and stuff.

00:07:10 They came out.

00:07:11 And then they did it again.

00:07:12 Like after twice, you know, no matter how crazy you are or manic or bipolar, twice a

00:07:14 time.

00:07:15 Like, you know.

00:07:16 I have to agree.

00:07:17 It's very important.

00:07:18 You surround good people in your life.

00:07:19 I'm very selective who I let in my circle. 0.99

00:07:20 And I think most people are successful because there's just so many scumbags that just want 0.98

00:07:22 to use you and take, take, take and never give back. 0.98

00:07:23 Like they'll always ask favors.

00:07:24 And all of a sudden you ask for a favor back.

00:07:25 Like, oh, I can't get that.

00:07:26 Can't do that.

00:07:27 I hate people like that.

00:07:28 Who do I get one way favors?

00:07:29 Yeah.

00:07:30 You probably get a lot of that in your industry, I bet.

00:07:31 Yeah.

00:07:32 You probably get one way favors?

00:07:33 Yeah.

00:07:34 You probably get a lot of that in your industry, I bet.

00:07:35 Yeah.

00:07:36 No.

00:07:37 That happens to me quite a bit.

00:07:38 Like I help out a lot of people.

00:07:39 And I try to like connect people and do them favors.

00:07:40 I've made a lot of people a lot of money.

00:07:41 You've been great connecting me with things, but I'm the same way I do.

00:07:42 And I get burned sometimes too.

00:07:43 You ask someone, hey, can you do this?

00:07:44 And then they just don't do it back for you.

00:07:45 Yeah.

00:07:46 People are, they think very individualistic.

00:07:47 Yeah.

00:07:48 Yeah.

00:07:49 Yeah.

00:07:50 Yeah.

00:07:51 Yeah.

00:07:52 Yeah.

00:07:53 Yeah.

00:07:54 Yeah.

00:07:55 Yeah.

00:07:56 Yeah.

00:07:57 Yeah.

00:07:58 Yeah.

00:07:59 Yeah.

00:08:00 Yeah.

00:08:01 Yeah.

00:08:02 Yeah.

00:08:03 Yeah.

00:08:04 Yeah.

00:08:05 Yeah.

00:08:06 They don't, that does have that.

00:08:07 You're right.

00:08:08 That's very commonplace, but I still do.

00:08:09 I like to do good things regardless.

00:08:10 I think in the long run though, it hurts them because in the long run, people like you,

00:08:14 the relationship you'll keep will be over years.

00:08:16 A lot of these people, we don't always burning relationships.

00:08:19 The streaming world.

00:08:20 I mean, you want to get into it, but it's, I want to get out.

00:08:24 It's actually funny that you're getting into it, but I'm ready to leave.

00:08:27 I think maybe one, two years left of the, the amount of stream.

00:08:30 I just stream right before coming in too.

00:08:32 Yeah.

00:08:33 I'm always, I'm going to go live again tonight.

00:08:34 Yeah.

00:08:35 I'm always live, but being, you know, watched like that at all times is just not.

00:08:39 Yeah.

00:08:40 I know.

00:08:41 I definitely do not want to get like you do.

00:08:42 I want to do like mild amount.

00:08:43 I'm more, more podcast, do like a tiny bit of streaming.

00:08:45 You stream like all the time.

00:08:46 I remember one day we streamed for like 10 hours, 10, 12 hours.

00:08:48 I was exhausted after that.

00:08:49 And it's really draining.

00:08:50 Yeah.

00:08:51 I know.

00:08:52 It's funny you say that.

00:08:53 Cause you not fake, but you have to be a little bit different with cameras on versus they

00:08:58 aren't. 0.97

00:08:59 And we were just doing random shit, but like 10 hours. 0.70

00:09:00 I'm like, dude, how do you do this all the time? 0.88

00:09:01 I'm like exhausted after this.

00:09:02 It's funny hearing you say that.

00:09:03 Cause there's always this debate going about whether a nine to five job is harder than streaming.

00:09:07 But if you're doing 10 hours of streaming, you're like, it's very draining.

00:09:10 Yeah.

00:09:11 It's tough.

00:09:12 At least you can vouch because they think that it's nothing.

00:09:13 No, I mean, I'm not saying it's a bad job.

00:09:15 I would probably prefer to do that, but it, but it drained me.

00:09:18 Cause maybe I'm not used to the cameras cause it's just like constantly having this camera

00:09:21 face for that many hours.

00:09:22 It was like, by the time I'm done, I'm like, Oh my God, I need to go relax.

00:09:25 I'm kind of naturally kind of a introvert.

00:09:27 So I have to like train myself to be more outgoing.

00:09:29 And that was just a lot of time to like, Oh, you constantly got to be talking and entertaining

00:09:32 the crowd.

00:09:33 And yeah, I don't think it's an easy job at all.

00:09:35 How did you get your social battery to go up like that?

00:09:38 Cause you strike me as a naturally introverted guy.

00:09:40 I think I just kind of forced myself to start going out and talking to people.

00:09:43 And then you grow more confidence.

00:09:45 Like when I was young, I was extremely introverted and I just kind of kept forcing myself to

00:09:50 do it and get more comfortable.

00:09:51 It's something that you got to train.

00:09:52 Yeah.

00:09:53 You got to go out and force it. 0.97

00:09:54 You know, like people, it's not, I mean, still sometimes it'll be like, Oh shit, it's 0.98

00:09:57 hard to go and talk to people, but I forced myself to do it.

00:09:59 I think some people, you can't change it.

00:10:00 You know, and some people, I'm not on the extreme end of introvert.

00:10:03 Some people it's harder, but there's times where after people go out, like I need to go be alone.

00:10:07 Sometimes I go, I'm trained.

00:10:08 I need to go be alone for like an hour or two.

00:10:09 That was me when I used to do meetups in London and the park and people would come.

00:10:14 And afterwards I was so drained after talking to everybody.

00:10:16 I would just like need to sit in the car and silence and just like, not like, just like

00:10:20 mummified, not even asleep, but just completely quiet.

00:10:22 The meetups are one of the most exhausting things we could do.

00:10:23 The reason is you're probably the same.

00:10:25 Cause I figure people that are coming out to meet me, sometimes standing in line for

00:10:28 an hour, every person, I want to give them my full energy.

00:10:30 So after a couple of hours of that, I'm just completely wiped out.

00:10:34 Completely wiped out.

00:10:35 Same thing.

00:10:36 I need to go somewhere for like an hour by myself and just like decompress.

00:10:39 In a way.

00:10:40 And there were other people in the car, had the camera afterwards and whatever.

00:10:42 And I just like, it was almost like I was depressed, not depressed, but just like, they

00:10:46 wanted to talk at it.

00:10:47 I was, I had no emotion.

00:10:48 No, nothing. 0.97

00:10:49 Cause I don't, you think they sound ridiculous.

00:10:50 I don't know.

00:10:51 But if they think if someone's in line to see you, they're a huge fan, you have to give

00:10:54 that, or you show you that person energy.

00:10:55 Some people don't.

00:10:56 I see sometimes these guys are famous guys cause they wait in line for like hours to

00:10:59 see them.

00:11:00 They're just kind of like, next person. 0.99

00:11:01 I'm like, wow, that's kind of fucked up. 0.81

00:11:02 Like this guy like looks up to you and that's the only energy you give them. 0.99

00:11:05 Yeah.

00:11:06 I mean, they probably drove like 40 minutes to an hour or something like that.

00:11:09 They, they waited.

00:11:10 They were watching other people like talk in line.

00:11:11 Yeah.

00:11:12 They really want to get that moment.

00:11:13 But even after that meetup, people like follow me to the car and in the parking lot already

00:11:17 like tired.

00:11:18 It can be exhausting. 0.98

00:11:19 But the one time you don't do the picture or something, then they hate you and it sucks.

00:11:22 There's been a few times you're just not in the mood and you like run off or something. 1.00

00:11:25 Then the person's like, Oh, what a jerk. 0.98

00:11:27 I mean, if you're on stream too and you don't give somebody the interaction, the whole chat 0.99

00:11:31 gets angry.

00:11:32 Look how he treats the fans.

00:11:33 Look how, look how evil the person is.

00:11:34 That's good.

00:11:35 But overall, no, it's hard at times.

00:11:36 And it's, you know, like not been that famous.

00:11:38 I was actually really surprised how famous you are going out with you.

00:11:41 I didn't realize you were that famous when you first came to interview me.

00:11:43 I barely knew who you were with no YouTube and stuff.

00:11:46 We go out and you just get recognized everywhere.

00:11:47 I'm like, you managed to get huge despite no YouTube.

00:11:50 How do you think you've done that?

00:11:51 It's gotta be the clips.

00:11:52 That's all it is.

00:11:53 Like people still come up to me.

00:11:54 They always say like, Oh yeah, that's a YouTuber.

00:11:56 When I travel abroad and then like someone's parents don't know who I am.

00:11:59 They're like, Oh, that's a YouTube.

00:12:00 They always describe me as a YouTuber.

00:12:02 But 99% of the people that they're just seeing clips.

00:12:05 Yeah.

00:12:06 So I got banned at the right time where everything shifted and people stopped watching videos

00:12:10 and people were more just going to scroll like you.

00:12:12 Like, you know, we all, nobody watches Twitter.

00:12:14 Yeah.

00:12:15 That's where you only use Twitter or no one's using podcast or it's just tick tock.

00:12:18 So I got banned at the right time.

00:12:19 Trump is saying that we might get reinstated in January for the people that were banned

00:12:23 from misinformation.

00:12:24 That's going to be, I'm really looking forward to that.

00:12:26 If I get back, cause I know you saw me get reinstated on YouTube for like about 12 hours.

00:12:31 And then banned right again.

00:12:32 I know.

00:12:33 I was so happy for it.

00:12:34 Like, Oh great.

00:12:35 Single guy's page back.

00:12:36 And then he got banned.

00:12:37 What do you think?

00:12:38 That was so weird.

00:12:39 What was that?

00:12:40 Maybe just an employee shut it off or something like that.

00:12:42 It had to be someone didn't like you.

00:12:43 Maybe I pulled this guy out.

00:12:44 I had, there's people like that on every website.

00:12:46 It happens.

00:12:47 I have it on kick.

00:12:48 I just started streaming on kick and there's like moderators who don't like me.

00:12:50 And I got deleted. 0.97

00:12:51 I got banned for the stupidest thing. 0.99

00:12:52 Someone wore Hitler costume on Halloween. 0.99

00:12:54 I got banned for hate speech.

00:12:55 You know, it says literally Halloween, but you weren't even in the costume.

00:12:58 It wasn't even me in the costume.

00:12:59 So it's like, wait, so if someone plays Call of Duty and there's a swastika, is that hate speech?

00:13:04 If I like, if I'm watching a documentary about Nazi Germany, is that hate speech because there's a swastika?

00:13:09 Like what's the description?

00:13:10 No, it's history.

00:13:11 That's one that's always so weird to me that you can't talk about anything World War II.

00:13:14 It's like, why can't we talk about these things?

00:13:16 We can, we can talk about the communists.

00:13:18 We can talk about Mao.

00:13:19 We can talk about, you know, Stalin who did mass murders. 0.55

00:13:22 I could dress up as Mao or Stalin and it wouldn't be, wouldn't be cast.

00:13:25 They killed way more people than the Nazis. 0.74

00:13:26 It's so strange.

00:13:27 But yeah, he's the symbol of hate speech.

00:13:29 So yeah, every website there, there's someone, but the YouTube, imagine, cause I started YouTube

00:13:34 when I was 13, 10 years on YouTube.

00:13:36 Even before I was streaming, I was making videos and then I get banned.

00:13:39 I lose everything.

00:13:40 They wipe my whole channel.

00:13:41 It's gone for two years.

00:13:42 And then I get it back for one day.

00:13:43 You were probably so happy.

00:13:44 You know, I was happy when I saw that.

00:13:45 Oh, that's awesome.

00:13:46 So you got his page back.

00:13:47 He's really gonna blow up now and then boom.

00:13:48 And then you lose it again.

00:13:49 It's like people, I describe it to people.

00:13:51 Like imagine being with the most beautiful girl ever, like a 10 out of 10 dime piece.

00:13:54 And then you lose her, like the one that got away.

00:13:56 And then you get her back for one night and then she's gone again.

00:13:58 Like that, that's separate, but it's fine.

00:14:00 You know, it's not the, I still have hope that I think it's going to come back in 2025.

00:14:05 Well, yeah, you managed to be really big without it.

00:14:07 Like we were saying, so you'll be fine.

00:14:08 Hopefully you'll get it back.

00:14:09 But like I said, you've, you've adapted and gotten, you'll make without YouTube.

00:14:12 You'd be bigger with YouTube, but you can survive without them.

00:14:14 It shows.

00:14:15 It's not even really that much about you.

00:14:16 It's just the catalog.

00:14:17 Cause I had, I just been doing it for so long.

00:14:19 It was like a diary of my whole life on, on that channel, just to have that back and be

00:14:22 able to see that.

00:14:23 That's what I really want.

00:14:24 Yeah.

00:14:25 So what made you start at 13?

00:14:26 I mean, it does the same reason I think people are getting into it now.

00:14:29 It was just really interesting to be able to communicate with an audience to just have

00:14:31 a laptop and a camera and be able to travel around and do that.

00:14:35 That's always what's a, what spoke to me.

00:14:37 And I saw it as the future and I was right.

00:14:39 Like I bet everything on that when I was younger, I'm like, this is going to be the next big thing.

00:14:43 I think streaming is going to continue to explode.

00:14:45 It's taking over TV.

00:14:46 Nobody watches.

00:14:47 No, I don't watch TV.

00:14:48 I mean, even this election proved it.

00:14:50 Like all the influence has gone to the streamer, to the influencer, to the podcaster, to the

00:14:54 YouTuber.

00:14:55 Now the celebrities that endorse Kamala, they lost.

00:14:57 Yeah.

00:14:58 Right.

00:14:59 That's the one who, the celebrity, um, guard, the old guard, Beyonce's Cardi B,

00:15:04 Marvel movie people, Robert De Niro.

00:15:06 They all endorsed Kamala Harris cause they thought that were the most famous ones and they

00:15:09 lost.

00:15:10 And the people that endorse Trump are like Aiden Ross, Theo Vaughn, Joe Rogan, you know,

00:15:14 me, these people.

00:15:15 So that proves that that has a bigger, even though he might not be as famous.

00:15:19 And so that's a real connection.

00:15:20 That's more valuable.

00:15:21 Like, yeah, people know who you are.

00:15:22 People know who Beyonce is.

00:15:23 No one cares what she thinks about politics. 1.00

00:15:25 People want to listen to people that they trust.

00:15:27 There's no trust in a Marvel celebrity.

00:15:28 There's trust in the influencer.

00:15:30 Yeah.

00:15:31 That's actually kind of why I started a podcast because, you know, Twitter, you can get some things

00:15:34 out, but Twitter is also divisive. 1.00

00:15:35 You kind of shit post on there. 1.00

00:15:37 At least I do. 1.00

00:15:38 So it's not a good place to get invested, but podcasts, you can be more real, honest.

00:15:41 So I'm like, you know what?

00:15:42 I don't like most of the current podcasts and they're not speaking truth.

00:15:45 Why not start my own thing?

00:15:46 I could buy, you know, we literally could, we can bypass them now and start our own media

00:15:50 and get bigger than the big media.

00:15:51 You know, I think in a year or two, I'll be bigger than the viewerships on CNN and stuff.

00:15:54 You will.

00:15:55 I mean, Elon Musk said it.

00:15:56 He said, you are the media now.

00:15:57 And he's right.

00:15:58 You know, Elon Musk did a great job with buying Twitter.

00:16:01 I think that really was Richard Medal and win the election.

00:16:03 Yeah.

00:16:04 It's been so great.

00:16:05 I mean, there's been things, obviously I'm critical of some things, but Elon, but overall,

00:16:08 it's been amazing that he bought that sacrifice money for free speech.

00:16:10 It's not full free speech, but it's way closer to anything else.

00:16:13 I didn't even realize it because I don't use other platforms, but then I'll put my clips

00:16:16 in other places and they get flagged and pulled down.

00:16:18 And that's when I start realizing like, oh, there's a big difference between Twitter

00:16:21 and Instagram and Tik Tok and these places.

00:16:23 All of them.

00:16:24 Yeah.

00:16:25 I think I'm going to go back to criticism of Elon.

00:16:26 There's no point.

00:16:27 Like the guy's doing so much good.

00:16:28 So might as well focus on the good thing.

00:16:30 No, he's, he's done so much good.

00:16:31 I get minor criticism against them because that's fine.

00:16:33 But overall he's been a huge, a huge net good for society.

00:16:36 And he's done, he's done so many different things to help, help launch PayPal, Tesla.

00:16:40 I know people hate on him.

00:16:41 I think they're great cars, SpaceX.

00:16:42 Like it's amazing what this guy has done.

00:16:44 And Chris Pawlowski with rumble.

00:16:46 That was, that was really important.

00:16:47 I think one will have more live viewers on election night than YouTube.

00:16:50 More people were on that website because YouTube has no free speech.

00:16:54 I think they're starting to realize that, you know, shutting people out and trying to

00:16:57 push more narrative doesn't work.

00:16:58 People were surprised.

00:16:59 If you look at the map after the election, seeing how red it is all over the country.

00:17:03 If you just look at Tik Tok or Instagram, you would think that it would be all LGBT liberal.

00:17:07 That's not the case.

00:17:08 Young male voters really came out in flocks to vote for Trump.

00:17:11 Oh yeah.

00:17:12 Things are changing.

00:17:13 And yeah, rumble too.

00:17:14 Rumble is great.

00:17:15 Some of my videos do better on rumble than YouTube overall.

00:17:17 I have certain, some ones do way better on YouTube, like fighters and stuff like that.

00:17:20 But some of the political ones have more views than rumble.

00:17:22 It's pretty crazy.

00:17:23 I'm like, oh, rumble is getting way bigger.

00:17:24 It's going to keep getting bigger during the Trump administration too.

00:17:27 I'm really, I, I, I was in your vote before, but the last like two weeks when he was campaigning,

00:17:32 I decided I'm like, you know, Trump's the better option.

00:17:35 I've been really happy with Trump for the last couple of weeks.

00:17:37 I've been very critical for the same reasons we've had.

00:17:39 I've gone really back and forth if I was going to vote for him or not.

00:17:41 I ended up, you know, not registered last minute.

00:17:43 So I didn't vote.

00:17:44 But last minute I was like, well, I kind of wish I would to vote for him.

00:17:46 So I was really back and forth, you know, with, we, we were very similar on our views

00:17:49 with him.

00:17:50 And, and so he gave that great speech about censorship and I hope I'm completely wrong

00:17:53 about it.

00:17:54 And I'll, I'll be the first, you know, I'll apologize and be like, wow, I really, I never

00:17:57 told anyone not to vote for him.

00:17:58 Anyone asks who you should vote for.

00:17:59 I said, he's clearly better than Kamala.

00:18:01 So I never told anyone not to vote for him, but it's like, I hope he does great and proved

00:18:04 me wrong.

00:18:05 We'll see.

00:18:06 So we'll see over the next couple of years.

00:18:07 I'm two for two.

00:18:08 I've only voted in two elections.

00:18:09 I didn't vote for him in 2020 because I didn't, I didn't like his campaign in 2020.

00:18:12 Yeah.

00:18:13 I voted in 2016 and when I was in high school and I voted again for this election.

00:18:17 So yeah, I voted for both the, both the first few times and then skipped this one.

00:18:20 So, but I hope he proves me wrong.

00:18:21 I never did any good stuff, but I still hope he does way better than I suspect.

00:18:25 What do you want to see?

00:18:26 What do you, what do you want to see this first year?

00:18:28 The censorship thing will be massive that he said he wants to do.

00:18:31 I want to see that.

00:18:32 Hopefully, you know, the cut taxes a little bit and maybe not major, but a small tax cut.

00:18:36 We're not going to get a big tax cut realistically.

00:18:39 Close the borders.

00:18:40 Open borders are insane.

00:18:41 Hopefully he does that.

00:18:42 I would love to cut funding to Israel and Ukraine and the Ukraine war and the Israeli war.

00:18:47 Those two are massive to me.

00:18:48 I don't think the Israel war is the one that I really want ended.

00:18:51 And that's the one he was like pushing for too much.

00:18:54 The Palestine government already said that they wanted to end the war.

00:18:56 As soon as Trump was elected, they, they, they reached out and said like, let's, let's

00:19:00 call it quits.

00:19:01 I'm very hopeful.

00:19:02 I'm very, I'm more, I don't know, just driving around since Trump elected.

00:19:05 I'm just, it feels good to have a, have Trump back.

00:19:08 Like have this guy in charge.

00:19:09 It felt good when he won.

00:19:10 I'm not going to lie.

00:19:11 It felt really good.

00:19:12 He won.

00:19:13 You know, I'm not going to say I didn't have doubts like, oh, maybe I should have gone

00:19:14 and voted, but hey, he won anyways.

00:19:15 Yeah.

00:19:16 I'm very optimistic about, I feel more patriotic than before.

00:19:19 It was good to see people do the right thing.

00:19:21 And then funny to see liberals cry.

00:19:23 Yeah.

00:19:24 I love that part.

00:19:25 I think I'm the only one not wearing a MAGA hat at this party.

00:19:27 It's kind of funny.

00:19:28 I know.

00:19:29 I walked in, people have the dark MAGA hats and everything.

00:19:30 I think there's a lot of people here.

00:19:31 But I feel like I just couldn't have put one on if I didn't vote for him.

00:19:33 That would be just too fake.

00:19:34 I mean, you're still supporting him.

00:19:35 I know I am.

00:19:36 I am happy he won and I'm feeling optimistic.

00:19:37 He gave a speech yesterday, the other day about censorship and it was great.

00:19:40 I'm like, wow, this is, you know, this maybe is going to be way better than I thought.

00:19:43 And you voted for him twice.

00:19:44 You can put it on.

00:19:45 We don't judge you.

00:19:46 Fair, fair.

00:19:47 You voted for him twice.

00:19:48 I mean, the election night was, that was monumental.

00:19:52 That was fun.

00:19:53 I mean, you called in a bit for that stream, but I think that was one of my best streams ever.

00:19:56 Yeah.

00:19:57 It was just such a blowout.

00:19:58 We were going to do a stream together, but I think you were smart at your last minute.

00:20:01 You're like, oh, I'm going to celebrate instead.

00:20:02 And that brings me to this moment.

00:20:03 You had an encounter with, what's his name?

00:20:05 Rabbi Shmuley.

00:20:06 Yeah.

00:20:07 Basically with him, you don't really have to talk. 1.00

00:20:08 He's such a fool. 1.00

00:20:09 He just made a complete fool of himself. 1.00

00:20:11 What happened there? 0.99

00:20:12 So there was a big gathering at Rockefeller Center in New York.

00:20:16 That's where all the flags are on the ice rink is.

00:20:18 And I showed up there, you know, just ready to support Trump.

00:20:21 I'm there with the American flag.

00:20:22 I didn't want to talk about Israel and Alassane because I wanted all the focus to be on Trump.

00:20:25 Yeah.

00:20:26 I was trying to generate votes last second, you know, and get that last push in encouraging

00:20:29 people and making sure that the narrative is good and to celebrate the win.

00:20:33 And I see Rabbi Shmuley.

00:20:34 I see what the big, like he's walking around.

00:20:36 He's flying around.

00:20:37 He has a giant Israel flag around him.

00:20:38 I had my American flag wrapped on him.

00:20:40 It was like a polar opposite to him with Israeli flag.

00:20:43 And I see him like, I tell the chat, I'm like, I see there's Rabbi Shmuley.

00:20:46 And they're all saying, go press him, go press him.

00:20:47 But I'm like, this is not the place.

00:20:49 I don't want to cause a big scene.

00:20:50 I don't want to take away the attention from Trump.

00:20:53 So I'm just standing here.

00:20:54 And then he walks over to me and comes to my space.

00:20:57 Kind of like Israel. 0.51

00:20:58 He comes in and immediately plays victim.

00:21:01 Because my bodyguard's right here.

00:21:03 I have to go bodyguard in public sometimes.

00:21:06 Yeah.

00:21:07 And my bodyguard whispers me like, yo, do you want me to like end this conversation?

00:21:10 And he's like, what are you saying?

00:21:11 You want to cancel? 1.00

00:21:12 You want to kill me? 1.00

00:21:13 You want to shoot me? 1.00

00:21:14 He's the worst. 1.00

00:21:16 I feel bad for Jews because I love Jews. 0.97

00:21:18 Yeah.

00:21:19 And he embodies all the negative stereotypes in one person.

00:21:22 I posted that clip and someone was like, he's the number one cause of anti-Semitism.

00:21:26 Because he sells dildos with his daughter.

00:21:28 It sounds like I'm joking.

00:21:29 Yeah, he does.

00:21:30 And he bragged about it.

00:21:31 He's like, I'll give you the mom and pop discount.

00:21:33 And I think he just made himself look terrible.

00:21:35 He's like pointing around and yelling.

00:21:37 Absolutely terrible.

00:21:38 He tried all the tactics, like victimize himself, you know, create division. 0.96

00:21:41 He's like, oh, how are you as a black man going to be working for white supremacists? 0.96

00:21:45 He's like, what do you think about black people? 0.98

00:21:47 Like I am black. 0.93

00:21:48 He had nothing. 0.79

00:21:50 No.

00:21:51 I think he embarrassed himself.

00:21:52 And I'm surprised.

00:21:53 He posted it himself too.

00:21:54 And everybody's roasting him.

00:21:55 It almost is like, you know how people say, oh, this guy's a Mossad agent to try to

00:21:59 infiltrate.

00:22:00 It's almost like he's a Hamas agent designed to make his work terrible. 0.96

00:22:03 We hired him to make Jews look better. 1.00

00:22:06 That's how bad.

00:22:07 And he's the biggest Israeli apologist, I think, in America.

00:22:09 He's the one debating for them so bad.

00:22:11 The fact that he came over there with all these slimy tactics and looked so bad against

00:22:15 me where I wasn't even a parent of the subject.

00:22:18 I don't think that's good for them.

00:22:19 And hopefully I think that debate wakes up a lot of the Trump supporters.

00:22:22 Yeah.

00:22:23 I think they're able to see that because everybody who votes for Trump wants to put America first.

00:22:27 How are we going to put America first while giving all this money to Israel? 0.87

00:22:30 Yeah.

00:22:31 Well, the fact that he's walking around an Israeli flag, this is a problem. 0.96

00:22:33 Like I said, I have nothing against Jews, but I've noticed a lot of Jews, they put 1.00

00:22:37 Israel before America. 0.58

00:22:38 And to me, that's just not okay.

00:22:39 You should have an American flag.

00:22:40 You shouldn't be walking around with an Israeli flag. 0.96

00:22:42 That's just the same.

00:22:43 It's an American election.

00:22:44 It's not an Israeli election.

00:22:45 So why is this flag even there?

00:22:47 Nobody points that out.

00:22:48 If somebody showed up to that election party with a Moroccan flag or whatever flag, I'd be 0.56

00:22:53 like, what are you doing here?

00:22:54 This is a day to celebrate America.

00:22:55 We have our country back finally.

00:22:57 Get this flag out of here.

00:22:59 I agree.

00:23:00 This was actually the reason I didn't vote for Trump.

00:23:01 He kept giving things in front of Israel's flags.

00:23:03 He posted pictures of Israel's flags.

00:23:05 That was the issue that made me decide not to do it.

00:23:07 Like I said, I still think it's grade 31 and isn't that good, but that was why I just

00:23:10 can't put my name behind this.

00:23:11 No, it was pretty egregious towards the end.

00:23:13 There was a lot of, he was next to a lot of his flags.

00:23:15 He was there with the rabbi Schneerson at that.

00:23:18 That was the tunnel ones too.

00:23:19 It wasn't just regular Jews. 0.77

00:23:20 It was the Jews that dug the tunnels. 1.00

00:23:22 That's the one that dug the tunnels.

00:23:24 The guy that started that branch, he like basically said that only Jews souls or not 0.99

00:23:29 Jews souls were like satanic, but basically go to hell. 1.00

00:23:31 Schneerson, yeah, I know. 1.00

00:23:32 Yeah, it's completely insane.

00:23:33 And Trump went there.

00:23:34 Yeah, it was pretty egregious towards the end.

00:23:36 But I think that, I mean, we were speaking this right before.

00:23:39 If you read the art of the deal, Trump knows how to get people on your side.

00:23:42 I think he's very diplomatic and I think he knows how to keep people's egos better than

00:23:46 other politicians.

00:23:47 That's why I think Trump did so well geopolitically in his first term was that he understands business

00:23:51 negotiations where half of getting a good deal is just appealing to someone's ego, making

00:23:56 them feel present, giving them validation.

00:23:59 If you give someone the right validation in negotiation, they're going to give you so

00:24:02 much more money.

00:24:03 They're going to want to work with you.

00:24:04 If you make them feel good and you tell them like, oh yeah, you're a star or you're the

00:24:08 best businessman.

00:24:09 You say whatever they want to hear, they're going to work with you.

00:24:11 Other politicians are not able to do that because they're not diplomatic.

00:24:14 That's why he was so good.

00:24:15 It's because he comes from that business background. 1.00

00:24:16 Yeah, I really hope I was wrong about Trump and I'll be the first to say, hey, I fucked 0.99

00:24:20 up and praise the guy. 0.99

00:24:21 It's very possible.

00:24:22 That would be great if he goes out and just does great for America.

00:24:25 Overall, he's going to be better in America for sure.

00:24:26 It's going to thrive.

00:24:27 America's not doing that well right now.

00:24:29 I mean, we're both on the upper end and doing fine financially, but people are struggling.

00:24:32 If you were at the grocery store and stuff, do you see the prices sometimes? 0.73

00:24:35 It's ridiculous.

00:24:36 The average wage is not that high. 0.90

00:24:37 No.

00:24:38 If you're like a person trying to feed a family by yourself, it's almost like the mother

00:24:41 has to work too and it shouldn't be like that.

00:24:42 The mother is able to stay home and take care of the kids, but we're in a situation where

00:24:46 most families can't do that nowadays.

00:24:47 The average salary is like $50,000.

00:24:49 Yeah.

00:24:50 I couldn't imagine living off that.

00:24:51 It's just like you can't barely eat and stuff.

00:24:53 You can't go to restaurants.

00:24:55 You can't really do much on that.

00:24:56 No, in Miami, the lifestyle that I live and that most people around me live, if you're making

00:25:00 $50,000 a month, even then, it's just like, dude, let's step it up.

00:25:03 No, it's crazy because we're, like I said, we're in cities, people doing well.

00:25:06 So yeah, we're looking at maybe a little crazy to respect it, but exactly.

00:25:08 You start hanging with people and you start doing well and you start feeling poor. 0.90

00:25:11 You're like on Dan's private jet being like, damn, I need to do a lot better. 0.96

00:25:14 Yeah. 0.96

00:25:15 Why do I not have a private jet like this?

00:25:17 That's true.

00:25:18 It really gets you away from the average person being around these people all the time for sure.

00:25:23 Yeah.

00:25:24 I think it's good for me though.

00:25:25 It's motivated me because I was really comfortable living semi-retired from fighting, not working

00:25:29 that hard and started hanging out with him.

00:25:31 There's another rich Jewish guy, Derek Moneyberg, doing a little work for him.

00:25:34 These guys are just so wealthy and I'm like, I need to step it up a little bit.

00:25:37 These guys have so much money.

00:25:39 If these guys can do it, why can't I step it up?

00:25:41 So I think it's good to see that sometimes.

00:25:42 These guys are just doing so well.

00:25:44 Yeah.

00:25:45 If you're the richest person in a room, you're in the wrong room.

00:25:46 Exactly.

00:25:47 You want to be around people that are going to motivate you and push you.

00:25:50 There's so many ways to make money online now.

00:25:52 There's so many different opportunities.

00:25:54 You got to stay on your toes at all times.

00:25:56 I don't want to get depressed.

00:25:57 You do.

00:25:58 That happened to me because I had a good fighting career, successful.

00:25:59 There's a year or two, but I wasn't happy when I wasn't working hard.

00:26:02 COVID hit.

00:26:03 I couldn't really do anything.

00:26:04 You're not doing anything.

00:26:05 As a man, you're not really happy.

00:26:07 That's why I started new projects.

00:26:08 That's why I'll start a podcast.

00:26:10 I'll make this successful.

00:26:11 Start new.

00:26:12 I think it's men.

00:26:13 We always need projects.

00:26:14 We're meant to do more.

00:26:15 It's not just money you're chasing.

00:26:16 It's chasing being good at something.

00:26:18 That's how men operate. 0.95

00:26:19 I've noticed a lot of athletes, they retire.

00:26:21 They get really fat.

00:26:22 They start doing drugs.

00:26:23 They start becoming gambling addicts and stuff.

00:26:25 How did you avoid that?

00:26:27 Did you get lazy when you first started slowing down?

00:26:30 That's a good question.

00:26:31 I kept working out.

00:26:32 It's when COVID hit.

00:26:33 I'm not a depressive person, but that was probably the most depressed I've been because

00:26:36 everything got closed down.

00:26:37 I had so much energy, no work, no projects.

00:26:40 It was tough for a few months.

00:26:42 There was a week or so where I started drinking it myself.

00:26:46 I was going home drinking at night by myself, and I go, wow, I need to stop this right away.

00:26:49 This is not healthy.

00:26:51 I cleared out all the alcohol, but I just could see.

00:26:53 I understood.

00:26:54 This is what could happen to people.

00:26:55 I was just so bored.

00:26:56 No one was hanging out.

00:26:57 I had no job.

00:26:58 I wasn't working online.

00:26:59 Nothing to do.

00:27:00 It's not fun, but I think for me, I just started finding a lot of projects.

00:27:04 I started training fighters.

00:27:05 I started finding new things to do.

00:27:07 You've got to always have goals.

00:27:08 Even though I was financially, I want to make a lot more money, but I was in a situation

00:27:11 where I financially could have retired if I wanted to live a normal life.

00:27:14 But for a year, I'm like, oh, I'm retired.

00:27:16 I'm like, this is boring.

00:27:17 I need to start working again.

00:27:19 I don't think that I'm going to ever be able to operate like that.

00:27:23 My dad, for example, he asked me, when are you going to retire?

00:27:26 I have a couple of properties now.

00:27:27 I could live on the cryptos booming right now.

00:27:31 Another reason that Trump is successful.

00:27:32 I'm very happy.

00:27:33 I wish I had more crypto.

00:27:34 Ethereum's at 3,000 right now.

00:27:36 Bitcoin's at an all-time high.

00:27:37 I need to check the prices.

00:27:38 You have some crypto?

00:27:39 Not a ton, but I have some.

00:27:40 I have more Ethereum than Bitcoin, so that's good to hear.

00:27:42 It's Zoom.

00:27:43 All coins are going up.

00:27:44 Everything's going well.

00:27:46 I could, but I don't know what I would do.

00:27:48 I think the trick is probably just finding a way to let your work work for you.

00:27:54 Instead of you constantly having to slave away where your lifestyle that you want to live

00:28:00 peacefully becomes your work.

00:28:03 Yeah.

00:28:04 I'm going to have it working.

00:28:05 Right now, I'm working a lot.

00:28:06 I don't want to be working this long forever because I'm doing a lot of stuff in the fight

00:28:09 business and launching the podcast.

00:28:10 The podcast is way more work than I realized.

00:28:12 I'm doing it by myself.

00:28:13 You know all the back-end stuff, booking the guests, the editing.

00:28:16 I finally just hired someone.

00:28:18 This is way more work than I realized I was taking on, but it's fun.

00:28:21 I enjoy it.

00:28:22 I think in a year, I'll have some more employees.

00:28:24 It'll be running itself, but it's fun taking these projects on.

00:28:27 Do you know happy retired people?

00:28:28 I don't know if I really can think of.

00:28:31 Happy retired men?

00:28:32 A lot of men die when they retire.

00:28:34 Yeah, right?

00:28:35 It's funny seeing too, because I was watching Trump's speech about censorship and it clicked

00:28:39 in my head.

00:28:40 The guy is 78 years old and the way he's speaking, the way like, we need to get rid of the radical

00:28:45 lift.

00:28:46 He just finished the campaign nonstop, probably got barely any sleep.

00:28:50 He doesn't eat that well.

00:28:52 He's fighting different wars on every front.

00:28:55 He has to meet, like right after he went, he met with Caitlyn Jenner.

00:28:58 Putin wants to call him.

00:28:59 Biden wants to get lunch.

00:29:00 And then he's giving a speech like, this guy is 78 and he's still, this is the way to

00:29:05 live.

00:29:06 I'm so impressed with his energy.

00:29:07 It's insane how much energy that guy has.

00:29:09 He didn't age.

00:29:10 He looks good.

00:29:11 After he didn't look better.

00:29:12 He looks good for 78 years old.

00:29:14 He doesn't seem senile.

00:29:15 Biden at the same thing was completely declining.

00:29:17 I would like to do the same.

00:29:18 It's also puts into perspective how much time we have as men.

00:29:21 I think people have this idea when you get like 50, that's when you should start retiring.

00:29:25 But this guy is like well past that.

00:29:27 And he's still more active and doing more than most 20 year olds and teenagers.

00:29:32 So there's no point in slowing down.

00:29:34 What else are you going to do?

00:29:35 You can always pivot and do new things.

00:29:36 Like I'm doing something like a podcast, totally weird and random.

00:29:38 But it's like it's new.

00:29:39 But for how new it is, it's already doing good.

00:29:41 It's like anything I put energy to, I know will succeed.

00:29:44 I'm the type of person, if I put energy to something, it's going to succeed.

00:29:47 It's fun taking on new things.

00:29:49 I don't want to sit around and do nothing.

00:29:50 But what do you do?

00:29:51 Go to a beach.

00:29:52 That's fun for a couple of days.

00:29:53 Then you're depressed.

00:29:54 That's it. 0.98

00:29:55 And then you're fat.

00:29:56 If you're not doing anything, you're naturally going to go to vices.

00:30:00 Like if that beach thing, there's a week before you start getting drunk every day.

00:30:04 No.

00:30:05 If I'm not careful, I can slip into that.

00:30:07 I can slip into a style that's not good.

00:30:09 I used to have problems with, never had drunk problems, but you could dabble or you can dabble.

00:30:13 You can fall into womanizing and stuff. 0.99

00:30:15 This is not healthy and good.

00:30:16 You're always going to fall into some sort of distraction because you need to apply yourself

00:30:21 somewhere.

00:30:22 That's what's interesting.

00:30:23 I noticed you took up fighting, you know, a year or so.

00:30:25 Go learn and try.

00:30:26 That's awesome learning new skills when you're already a successful man.

00:30:28 That's one of the hardest things you can do is learn to fight.

00:30:30 Yeah.

00:30:31 I just trained with this guy, Slim.

00:30:32 He's got a fighting guitar at the end of the month.

00:30:34 I think it's a Misfits card or something like that. 0.96

00:30:37 This guy, he started, he picked up boxing when he was 25 and pretty quick.

00:30:41 He's like seven and 0.

00:30:42 So it's not too late.

00:30:43 You know, a lot of guys, Alex Pereira, when he started becoming active in fighting.

00:30:48 He fought for a while, but he switched to MMA a couple of years ago.

00:30:51 Devastating, destroying people.

00:30:52 Well, he was already a world championship kickboxer.

00:30:54 But still, I'm really surprised how well, how fast he switched over.

00:30:58 But even for kickboxing, did he start 25, 26?

00:31:00 I actually don't know that.

00:31:01 I would think that's wrong, but I could be totally off on that.

00:31:04 It's insane if he does.

00:31:05 Yeah, he got in late.

00:31:06 Yeah, he may have, man.

00:31:07 He's insanely good at the power that guy has.

00:31:09 And he's one of the best fighters pound for pound right now, just destroying people.

00:31:12 Probably is.

00:31:13 I mean, the best light heavyweight, huh?

00:31:16 Yeah, currently for sure.

00:31:17 Yeah.

00:31:18 I mean, he's just destroying people, knocking everyone out.

00:31:20 I bet on him a few times.

00:31:21 I got some good pays on those.

00:31:23 Look at those odds.

00:31:24 Like, this guy's going to win.

00:31:25 That guy's face got messed up.

00:31:27 What did he?

00:31:28 Oh, that round tree.

00:31:29 That guy, that was a good fight, though.

00:31:31 It was a better fight than I thought.

00:31:32 Because I bet on Pereira.

00:31:35 It was starting to be a close fight.

00:31:36 I was a little worried because he was a big favorite.

00:31:38 He didn't bet in big favors, but then he knocked him out in the fourth round.

00:31:40 Are you up on sports betting?

00:31:42 That's becoming so popular with guys now.

00:31:43 They love this.

00:31:44 See, I'm not a huge gambler, but right now, at the moment, I've done great this year.

00:31:48 I don't do huge bets.

00:31:49 Because what I do, there was one point where I was doing really well, but then I started

00:31:52 over-forcing bets on cards.

00:31:54 Now, I just look at the cards, and if I see, because I know the sport really well, sometimes

00:31:58 I'll look at it and won't place a single bet.

00:32:00 Sometimes I'll look at it and be like, these odds seem awesome.

00:32:02 Plus, I get a lot of insight information, you know, tips.

00:32:04 I know people.

00:32:05 I've seen the guys train.

00:32:06 I know the other guys.

00:32:07 So I've done great this year.

00:32:09 I should be putting more money down, but I'm just not a naturally big gambler.

00:32:11 You know, I'm putting out like $500 and stuff.

00:32:13 Yeah, winning is winning.

00:32:14 But I'm still way up this year.

00:32:16 Yeah, when you win, when you gamble and you win, you're like, I should have put more.

00:32:19 But then if I start placing more, then I might start losing. 0.99

00:32:20 And then you lose, and you're like, fuck, I should have never gambled. 0.99

00:32:22 Yeah, I think overall gambling is such a bad habit. 0.99

00:32:24 That's why I put, you know, smaller bets.

00:32:26 But I've done great this year in gambling.

00:32:28 Sometimes it's annoying because I always get the cards right.

00:32:32 Every time I predict a card, my calling has been like 95% accurate.

00:32:36 I would make so much money sports betting, but I can't because it's wrong.

00:32:40 It's super annoying.

00:32:41 But I mean, it's protected for a reason.

00:32:43 In Islam, is it strongly opposed to gambling?

00:32:46 Yeah, gambling is one of the major sins.

00:32:48 But sports betting is not.

00:32:49 It is.

00:32:50 It's in the thing.

00:32:51 You just shouldn't do it.

00:32:52 It's not really good.

00:32:53 It's hard beating the bookies anyways, because you're paying a percentage to play it

00:32:56 if people don't realize.

00:32:57 That's true.

00:32:58 If it's dead even, you're still paying 10-15% just to place the bet.

00:33:01 And the more the odds shift, the higher the percentage you pay.

00:33:03 A lot of people aren't really aware of that.

00:33:04 It's 10-15, but that's really high.

00:33:06 Well, let's say if a fight's dead even, they'll usually both be negative 115 or something.

00:33:11 So you're paying 15% just to place the bet.

00:33:13 And a lot of people aren't even aware of that.

00:33:15 They're not realizing that they're paying just to place the bet.

00:33:17 So just be the bookie.

00:33:18 So the bookie, exactly.

00:33:19 And the bookies are pretty good too.

00:33:20 So they're good at setting the odds.

00:33:21 So the bookie always wins.

00:33:23 So what made you start training martial arts?

00:33:25 Guys like you.

00:33:26 Actually, it's funny because when guys like you started to get into the content world,

00:33:31 that's when I got inspired.

00:33:32 I think Joe Rogan's responsible for that, for highlighting a lot of MMA fighters.

00:33:36 And then seeing them talk about the love of the game, that made me really interested in it.

00:33:40 And then I started looking.

00:33:41 And also Nate Diaz was also a big fan of him when I was younger.

00:33:44 That's so cool.

00:33:45 You got to go train with Nate and stuff.

00:33:47 You got to go to his place.

00:33:48 Such a great dude, right?

00:33:49 Yeah, great guy.

00:33:50 How's he doing?

00:33:51 He's doing really good.

00:33:52 I was just with him last week in San Diego.

00:33:54 We had some seminars out there hanging out.

00:33:55 He's doing great.

00:33:56 Yeah, he won that fight against Jorge.

00:33:57 It was such a good fight.

00:33:58 He sold that arena out.

00:33:59 Unfortunately, he couldn't come to that.

00:34:01 But that was such a good thing.

00:34:02 Your buddy got chased.

00:34:03 Neon.

00:34:04 Yeah, yeah.

00:34:05 I was running out trying to save him.

00:34:06 It looked like I was chasing him.

00:34:07 Because I knew those guys might not listen to anyone else.

00:34:09 But listen to me.

00:34:10 I didn't want poor Neon to get beat up. 0.97

00:34:11 So when you were chasing, you were trying to protect him?

00:34:13 I wasn't going to let him beat him up.

00:34:14 But I'm like, it's not like I'm trying to beat this guy up.

00:34:16 Because I know they would listen to me, but not anyone else.

00:34:18 Because they all respect me.

00:34:19 And I'm like, I can't let him beat that guy up.

00:34:20 He was a punk.

00:34:21 Don't put me wrong. 1.00

00:34:22 The guy was being a little shit. 0.99

00:34:23 But I don't think they were actually going to beat him up. 1.00

00:34:24 But if I was scared, maybe they would. 0.99

00:34:25 Yeah, I just wanted to scare the shit out of him. 0.97

00:34:27 Yeah. 0.88

00:34:28 So it shows me running.

00:34:29 I'm like, oh, people don't think I'm going to beat up Neon.

00:34:30 And I was just going there.

00:34:31 Because I know I'm one of the few people those guys are listening to.

00:34:32 I'm like, hey, don't beat this poor guy up.

00:34:33 I didn't see you in the video.

00:34:34 So I think you beat that.

00:34:35 Okay, good, good.

00:34:36 I didn't see you.

00:34:37 But I mean, let's be real.

00:34:38 He kind of deserved that.

00:34:39 Yeah, he did deserve that. 0.99

00:34:40 He deserved to get slapped. 0.93

00:34:41 Like, he's so disrespectful what he said to Nate. 0.99

00:34:43 And it's like, he deserved to get slapped.

00:34:44 But I didn't want him to actually get hurt. 0.65

00:34:46 He's like a kid.

00:34:47 And he got chewed out.

00:34:48 But you know, Mighty Mouse, who's an amazing fighter.

00:34:50 There was a clip in the car.

00:34:51 And he's just chewing him out, being like, I told you, don't do that.

00:34:53 Speaking to him like a child.

00:34:54 It's like, bro, grow up.

00:34:55 Just don't do childish stuff like that.

00:34:57 Yeah, he's got some stuff right.

00:34:59 I mean, he's 20 now.

00:35:00 So he's not that young.

00:35:02 No, it's kind of. 0.99

00:35:03 He deserves to get slapped for sure. 0.98

00:35:04 But I was scared those guys were going to hurt him. 0.99

00:35:06 Yeah, those are a lot of guys. 1.00

00:35:07 It was like, fucking his whole crew. 0.99

00:35:08 And some of those guys aren't. 1.00

00:35:09 They're in the stocking crew.

00:35:11 But they're not that close to us. 0.95

00:35:12 And some of those guys are a little crazy.

00:35:13 So I was like, I better help them.

00:35:15 Just in case you never know what those guys are going to do.

00:35:17 What does Nate have coming up?

00:35:19 Nothing signed.

00:35:20 It's hard because he's such a big star in name.

00:35:22 But it's hard to get something outside the UFC.

00:35:24 But the UFC don't pay him as well.

00:35:26 I want to see him fight Conor again.

00:35:27 Yeah.

00:35:28 But I think Diaz and McGregor.

00:35:29 That makes the most sense, I think, for both of their careers right now.

00:35:32 I don't know if McGregor is really ready to do Michael Chandler or anyone.

00:35:36 No.

00:35:37 I think he loses.

00:35:38 I told Chandler, too, because he was waiting for that fight.

00:35:39 I'm like, I don't think Conor is going to fight you.

00:35:41 And he's like, no, no.

00:35:42 It's set.

00:35:43 It's set.

00:35:44 And sure enough, he pulled out.

00:35:45 I think Conor wants to fight someone like Nate.

00:35:46 That's a marquee super fight. 0.77

00:35:47 Very close.

00:35:48 Head to head.

00:35:49 I think I can go either way.

00:35:50 I think Nate wins.

00:35:51 I think Nate wins it.

00:35:52 But it's the way he's been training and stuff now versus Conor.

00:35:54 But everyone's going to tune in for that.

00:35:56 That's a super fight people want to see.

00:35:58 Chandler is great.

00:35:59 People aren't going to tune in the same way they would for Nate versus Conor.

00:36:02 But they both want to get paid.

00:36:04 The UFC, you know, hopefully they'll pay them both.

00:36:06 You know, I think the last time I saw you was that power slap day.

00:36:09 That's right.

00:36:10 Yeah.

00:36:11 That way I was in front of the list.

00:36:12 It was so weird.

00:36:13 People don't understand.

00:36:14 Can you tell them what happened?

00:36:15 Yeah.

00:36:16 We were at the power slap thing.

00:36:17 And a security guard that I know, they go, we were handed a list of Sneeko. 1.00

00:36:20 And he was told he wasn't back.

00:36:21 So there was a VIP section from everyone else.

00:36:23 And all the security, they always treat me great.

00:36:24 They let me walk right through.

00:36:25 I went to walk through with you and they just stopped me right away. 0.99

00:36:28 And then I was like, why are you guys being a dick? 0.98

00:36:29 And one of the guys like privately told me before they literally handed a picture of you 0.99

00:36:32 and said, don't let this guy in the VIP area.

00:36:34 You were the only guy they showed.

00:36:35 I'm like, wow, that is weird.

00:36:37 I want to figure out.

00:36:38 I don't know what that was over.

00:36:39 I don't know like what that was about.

00:36:40 I don't know who gave those orders, but I trust the guy that told me that.

00:36:43 And obviously it was true. 0.68

00:36:44 The way they freaked out when you tried walking back.

00:36:47 They never spoke to me like that.

00:36:49 The bounce was always so cool to me.

00:36:50 And they were just like, whoa.

00:36:51 And I tried walking in with you.

00:36:52 It was so weird.

00:36:53 Or Osama Bin Laden.

00:36:54 It was strange.

00:36:55 I'm like, wow, this is weird.

00:36:56 I guess my friend wasn't lying when he said that.

00:36:59 Could it be a multitude of reasons?

00:37:02 Yeah.

00:37:03 It's another interesting thing.

00:37:04 I remember I picked you up one time.

00:37:05 I wanted you to work out with the Bashar brothers because they're fellow Muslims.

00:37:08 And I'm like, oh, you guys are good along.

00:37:09 I picked you up and you're like, oh, I'm sparring Sean Strickland.

00:37:12 I go, wait, wait, what?

00:37:14 No, no, no.

00:37:15 He's not nice like us. 1.00

00:37:16 The dude can be a dick. 0.99

00:37:18 I'm friends with Sean, but he's going to try to hurt you. 1.00

00:37:21 He's getting more red pills, Sean.

00:37:22 I see him talking about Israel more and how we shouldn't fund them. 0.58

00:37:24 Yeah, I've definitely had some talks with Sean, but those are private.

00:37:26 We'll see.

00:37:27 We'll see.

00:37:28 I had a feeling you played a part in that because I saw him tweet about how much money

00:37:31 we're giving away to Sean.

00:37:32 I'm like, Jake must have been in his ear.

00:37:34 I'm not saying anything.

00:37:35 But anyways, you had a lot of courage to spar Sean.

00:37:39 This guy's like 230 pounds, way bigger than you, a world champion.

00:37:42 That took a lot of courage to go in there.

00:37:44 Even a lot of fighters were looking at you being like, are you sure you want to do this?

00:37:47 Yeah.

00:37:48 And you took a beating like a man. 0.79

00:37:50 He never put you down. 0.99

00:37:51 I mean, he beat the crap out of you, but you took it like a man. 0.98

00:37:53 You never complained.

00:37:54 I think you earned a lot of respect from fighters that day.

00:37:56 Good guys are like, wow, this kid is tough.

00:37:58 He took a beating.

00:37:59 He didn't cry about it.

00:38:00 He didn't.

00:38:01 And you still worked out with the Basha brothers after that. 0.99

00:38:03 What was that moment like doing that situation?

00:38:05 I was a little bit out of it.

00:38:06 It was good though.

00:38:07 It was good though.

00:38:08 It makes you want to keep on training.

00:38:09 I think towards the beginning of the year, I was way more focused up.

00:38:11 And then the summer came and I started traveling a lot, but I was more, I was really focused

00:38:15 on MMA in the beginning of the year.

00:38:16 I definitely got to bring it back.

00:38:17 I think that that would elicit more respect from people.

00:38:21 If I, if I was a more proficient fighter and I also put on some size, I keep saying

00:38:25 that, but I get disrespected sometimes.

00:38:27 And I don't think it would happen if I had more of that presence.

00:38:30 So I'm getting sick of that.

00:38:31 I think you're true.

00:38:32 Cause I'm very, very rare that people disrespect me because they know, you know, there'll be

00:38:35 consequences. 0.97

00:38:36 Like, I don't know the guy, Mike, Mike Jackson was talking crap about me. 0.98

00:38:39 I saw he called you a Nazi or something. 0.88

00:38:41 Yeah.

00:38:42 Right.

00:38:43 And then we agreed to fight each other on site.

00:38:44 You know, he fought, I mean, we both fought in UFC in the same way.

00:38:46 You know, I walk in, walk in the gym and I see him there and I'm like, Oh, it's time.

00:38:49 Let's go boy.

00:38:50 And he starts making excuses.

00:38:51 Like, Oh, you know, no, no.

00:38:52 I meant like we can fight in Houston instead.

00:38:54 I'm like, no bro.

00:38:55 We have an agreement.

00:38:56 So when I literally starts running around the gym, I caught him, throw him on the ground, 0.92

00:39:00 start slapping him. 0.60

00:39:01 I got dragged off.

00:39:02 He pressed charges on me, called the cops, pressed charges.

00:39:04 Pressing charges.

00:39:05 Do you still face those charges?

00:39:06 I got the case dismissed, but fighters get in fight gyms pretty often.

00:39:10 The fact that he challenged me to a fight and then press charges. 1.00

00:39:12 That guy's the biggest bitch. 1.00

00:39:14 I didn't even know that was like, you're allowed to do that. 1.00

00:39:17 Literally a fight gym.

00:39:18 Yeah. 0.92

00:39:19 It was so ridiculous. 0.97

00:39:20 But what do you think? 0.95

00:39:21 I know, I know a lot of people were very critical of Sean Strickland because he went way

00:39:25 in the fight where a lot of people were mad at him for going too hard on you.

00:39:28 I thought it was a little ridiculous, but I think it was also good that you, you kind

00:39:31 of realized that you agreed to spar him.

00:39:32 So you, and you, so you kind of got upset about that.

00:39:34 I'm not upset about that.

00:39:35 You know, and I said this before in a way, in a weird way, I'm grateful because I mean,

00:39:41 if there wasn't film that I probably would not be, but it's like the amount of respect

00:39:44 that I gained and how that changed people's perception.

00:39:47 Same thing for Rabbi Schmulli.

00:39:48 Like I'm grateful because he made himself look bad to help me look good.

00:39:53 And in a way that conversation that was supposed to happen.

00:39:55 I like having conversations like that because then you got to test where your abilities are

00:39:58 at as a man.

00:39:59 No, you showed, you know, you want to do it often, but you showed you have courage.

00:40:02 People ask me, were you mad when Sean did that?

00:40:04 And I go a little bit, but I wasn't that mad because I did tell you he was going to

00:40:08 try to hurt you.

00:40:09 Yeah.

00:40:10 And I knew that it was supposed to happen.

00:40:11 Yeah.

00:40:12 And it helped me face something that I would never be able to face without that.

00:40:14 Like he gave me something in a way, like when am I else am I going to be able to

00:40:16 fight a UFC champion, you know, going full on and know that I did that.

00:40:20 So now I have something that other people don't have.

00:40:22 Yeah.

00:40:23 You took a lot of hard shots, you know, and the people don't know what they're going

00:40:26 to be like in that scenario.

00:40:27 Now I know I have that capability and knowledge.

00:40:29 I want to see how Sean's doing.

00:40:31 You know, I liked him before, even before that sparring.

00:40:34 I liked him.

00:40:35 Speaking about wokeness, I think it's really good.

00:40:37 Yeah.

00:40:38 I'm roasting the Canadian reporter, all that stuff.

00:40:39 That's stuff I really like.

00:40:40 And yeah, I just hope he's doing well.

00:40:43 No, I think he's doing good.

00:40:44 I've been trying to get my podcast.

00:40:45 I think we'll get on at some point, but he's like hard to get on a podcast.

00:40:48 But I'll try to connect you guys.

00:40:49 See if he wants to not spar you again, but like train you.

00:40:52 He said he would.

00:40:53 Sean Strickland said he did get my spar when he was going to the interview.

00:40:55 So I'll remind him when I see him.

00:40:56 He owes me.

00:40:57 He does owe you an interview.

00:40:58 You're right.

00:40:59 He did agree to that.

00:41:00 So he does owe you an interview.

00:41:01 So I'll try to, I'll tell him when I see him.

00:41:03 And it would be good.

00:41:04 I mean, there's a good buildup to the story and I respect the guy.

00:41:06 Yeah.

00:41:07 But a lot of fighters are really critical of Sean for that.

00:41:09 Oh, they were.

00:41:10 It's too much.

00:41:11 And I think that it's necessary that we talk because every time I talk to someone new, 1.00

00:41:14 they're like, Sean, what an asshole. 1.00

00:41:15 What a fucking dude. 1.00

00:41:16 Like everyone always says that. 1.00

00:41:17 And I don't think that he's a bad guy.

00:41:19 No.

00:41:20 And that was why I kind of had to stick up with Sean a little bit.

00:41:22 Cause it's like, well, I did, I did tell you he's going to try to hurt you.

00:41:25 And he said, people told you that too, right?

00:41:26 He has a reputation.

00:41:27 Everyone was telling you the gym that day.

00:41:28 Like, Hey bro, he's going to hurt you.

00:41:29 He's going to hurt you.

00:41:30 Everybody says that.

00:41:31 So I knew what I was stepping into.

00:41:32 So I want to see him kind of clear that. 0.99

00:41:34 I think the reason he's avoiding it is cause like, he's like, Oh fuck. 0.99

00:41:36 Why'd I do that? 0.98

00:41:37 I think he regrets it a bit. 0.99

00:41:39 He's probably like, Oh, that's fucking. 0.98

00:41:40 I don't think he minds being the bad guy. 1.00

00:41:41 I think he likes being the bad guy.

00:41:43 Oh, okay.

00:41:44 I wouldn't like that.

00:41:45 I wouldn't like it.

00:41:46 I think he enjoys being the bad guy.

00:41:47 Really?

00:41:48 Yeah.

00:41:49 I don't think you realize you had such a bad concussion.

00:41:50 Cause then you go up to Nate and spar with Nate.

00:41:51 So obviously it was going light with you, but you went and spar Nate a couple of days later.

00:41:54 I spar Nate two days later.

00:41:55 And then I went back to Miami and then all the, everyone in the gym is like, you know,

00:41:58 we got to work on it.

00:41:59 You took so many shots and they're like, let's do defensive drills.

00:42:01 And so I'm here covering up and they're just hitting.

00:42:03 And I like, I did a drill where I'm supposed to catch punches.

00:42:05 And after that drill, that's what I was like, all right, not have a concussion.

00:42:08 It's like, you should not have been sparring Nate Diaz after that.

00:42:10 But you also can't say no if Nate Diaz is like, you want to spar.

00:42:13 They said in the gym, this coach is like, no, you have to do three rounds.

00:42:15 I'm like, I'll do one.

00:42:16 I just spar Sean.

00:42:17 Nope.

00:42:18 No, you have to go to the gym.

00:42:19 Where's the gym.

00:42:20 So I did it.

00:42:21 Gym rules.

00:42:22 If you get, you know, there's rules that you got to do certain rounds and stuff.

00:42:24 I think that's why our team was successful.

00:42:26 But they didn't want to do it on camera.

00:42:27 Like he said, they cut the camera off.

00:42:29 So, you know, he doesn't like filming a lot of stuff, but I'm sure he was not, not,

00:42:32 not, not nearest me and Sean.

00:42:33 I'm sure he hit you a little bit, but it was like, come on.

00:42:36 Yeah.

00:42:37 Playing around.

00:42:38 But yeah, Nate's a phenomenal boxer and such a good dude.

00:42:40 He is.

00:42:41 He can, I don't know how his stamina is like that.

00:42:43 This is like, some of these guys are freaks in nature, like Trump at 78.

00:42:46 He, he isn't, I think Dana White was just on a podcast talking about how Trump doesn't

00:42:51 even drink water.

00:42:52 He's just in Coca-Cola.

00:42:53 I can, I can imagine.

00:42:54 I've never seen him drink water.

00:42:55 He's a soda guy, burger, milkshakes, American hot dogs.

00:42:58 He likes to eat golf course food.

00:43:00 Yeah. 0.51

00:43:01 But he's a tank.

00:43:02 He's still up at 78 doing all this stuff.

00:43:03 Nate Diaz is like, you know, he smokes and he parties and stuff.

00:43:06 People know this stuff.

00:43:07 It's public.

00:43:08 But he still has some of the best conditioning I've seen of a fighter, especially of his age.

00:43:11 Like some people are just built different.

00:43:13 Well, Nate, this weekend I tell the story.

00:43:14 He's like, the reason I got tough is one night where the first time in Vegas, he was, he

00:43:17 was, I don't know who he was, like 17 or something.

00:43:19 We were supposed to train in the morning.

00:43:20 We went out and just drank all night.

00:43:21 And Nate's like, Oh cool.

00:43:22 We're not, we're not training tomorrow.

00:43:23 And all of a sudden I'm waking him up in the morning.

00:43:25 Like we're training.

00:43:26 And he was, he was just so hung over.

00:43:28 And then we went to the gym and just mob people up.

00:43:30 And he's like, he's like, after that, I go, well, if Jake's going to make me train,

00:43:32 that means I can drink and still go train the next day.

00:43:35 I've been friends with him since like 16.

00:43:37 Again, just such a good, honest, like loyal, like he's like a brother to me, basically.

00:43:41 Yeah.

00:43:42 You know, a lot of these guys for a long time, I forget that.

00:43:44 Nick, Nate.

00:43:45 Yeah.

00:43:46 Like we all came up training together, which is unusual in fighting.

00:43:47 Usually everyone like switches to power teams, but we were like him and Gil Melendez.

00:43:51 We were all like teenagers together coming up all at the same gym, just young, broke,

00:43:55 poor, poor, angry kids with nothing.

00:43:57 We all, we all taught each other and succeeded.

00:43:59 It's like we helped coach each other.

00:44:01 And luckily we've been able to keep our brotherhood all the years.

00:44:03 No falling outs.

00:44:04 It just, it's rare.

00:44:05 I'm like, that's why I'm talking.

00:44:06 That's why I was making fun of your industry.

00:44:07 Cause everyone's always talking to each other.

00:44:09 Like we would never do stuff like that.

00:44:11 So it's so weird seeing that. 0.88

00:44:12 Like someone talked, I had people come up and like talk shit about Nate and then want 0.76

00:44:15 a picture with me or something. 0.99

00:44:16 It's like, get the fuck away from me. 0.99

00:44:17 You think you can insult my friend and get a picture with me? 0.99

00:44:19 It's like, I don't roll that way.

00:44:20 Like we don't, that's not how we are in our world.

00:44:22 So it's just so different.

00:44:23 It's a completely different world.

00:44:24 Very foreign. 1.00

00:44:25 And it's not even just like people of my generation, it's like older people.

00:44:28 It's so commonplace.

00:44:29 Now I've been, I've had so many people turn on me or like, it's just, and I think

00:44:35 especially politics aside, I think, you know, if you're friends in real life, like that

00:44:39 should be paramount.

00:44:40 Dude, friendships is so important in loyalty, but loyalty is a two way street.

00:44:43 So people aren't showing it back to you.

00:44:45 Then it's like, they're just taking from you.

00:44:47 I've been so fortunate.

00:44:48 I didn't realize how good the fight world was where we're loyal to each other.

00:44:50 We always helped each other out.

00:44:52 I would help Nick train for a fight, but I knew afterwards I could call him and he'd

00:44:55 help me train for a fight.

00:44:56 Other guys I would help train for a fight.

00:44:58 And then I'd call him afterwards, like, Oh, I'm not training right now.

00:45:01 That's just never how it was in our crew.

00:45:02 We were always helping each other, which is why we were successful.

00:45:04 You need, you need people around you to help you elevate and grow.

00:45:07 Yeah.

00:45:08 You need to have that crew of people.

00:45:10 That's what I'm looking for.

00:45:11 And, um, in Florida, I'm wondering where to go.

00:45:14 I was thinking, I liked being back in New York.

00:45:16 It was good to be because I have my OG friends.

00:45:18 You know, I don't, it was every time I go back to New York, I'm like, Oh yeah, I have

00:45:21 like real friends.

00:45:22 I don't have these industry streamer friends.

00:45:23 These people would never switch on me to have my back.

00:45:25 I have theirs.

00:45:26 And it was just simple things like bro code.

00:45:29 Like you don't even need to discuss that.

00:45:30 It's just, it's understood with a streamer friend or an influencer friend.

00:45:34 You always, you have to look at them.

00:45:35 Like they're, they're going to be, even when you give them information, you have to

00:45:38 care for what you say.

00:45:39 They're downloading that information ready to like, they're like, Oh, this is a clip.

00:45:43 But like you, I know I could share prior information from that's what you had clicked

00:45:46 right away.

00:45:47 I'm going to read people like, Oh, this is a good dude.

00:45:48 That's why I was so confused all the hate you got.

00:45:50 I could just read people like, Oh, this is a good, genuine, honest dude.

00:45:53 What do you think it comes from, you know, from your perspective?

00:45:56 The loyalty or the fakeness?

00:45:58 Yeah.

00:45:59 Why do so many people turn on me like that?

00:46:01 I think they're just so out for themselves.

00:46:03 They do whatever's trendy.

00:46:04 Yeah.

00:46:05 No, I was trying to figure out too.

00:46:06 It was weird trying to turn on you.

00:46:07 That's what I was thinking.

00:46:08 Cause you always are so loyal to people.

00:46:09 And I see them turn on you and even, well, you and Nick have a weird relationship with Nick

00:46:13 loves you, I think, but you guys like battle sometimes, but it's like, but I think he

00:46:16 still does like you a lot, but it's just weird.

00:46:18 You're always fighting with these and some of these guys like fully turning on you.

00:46:21 It's weird.

00:46:22 I think maybe they're, maybe they're jealous.

00:46:23 You've been so successful without a YouTube and stuff.

00:46:25 It could be that.

00:46:26 And I think it's also what I talk about.

00:46:28 You know, if you speak about God and you speak about it, like I talk about Islam a lot.

00:46:32 I think I really, that's off putting to people.

00:46:34 So you're receptive to it.

00:46:35 Like you, cause you, you went to the Majid and you're, you're open to it.

00:46:38 That's actually interesting.

00:46:39 I think it was the day after you, you sparred Sean Strickland.

00:46:42 No, the same day.

00:46:43 Yeah.

00:46:44 Right after you invited me to mosque.

00:46:45 And at first I'm like, Oh, I'm not Muslim.

00:46:46 I can't come.

00:46:47 And you're like, no bro, he's come.

00:46:48 You can, you can come in.

00:46:49 And I'm just like, I was a little nervous to go.

00:46:50 And I went there and I was treated so good despite not being a Muslim.

00:46:53 I was like, wow, this is cool.

00:46:54 Everyone's like a friendly, so nice, respectful.

00:46:56 There were several fighters that didn't know were Muslims from the gym that were in there.

00:46:59 We all prayed together.

00:47:00 They were okay.

00:47:01 We might not be a Muslim. 0.97

00:47:02 Everyone was so friendly after I'm like, okay.

00:47:04 That's why I don't know why people shouldn't Islam.

00:47:06 I've always been treated so good by Muslims.

00:47:08 I've been to some of those countries and of course there's bad Muslims. 1.00

00:47:11 There's bad of everybody.

00:47:12 But as a whole, I've had great relationships with Muslims. 0.99

00:47:15 I don't, I don't like all this shitting on Islam stuff I see. 0.99

00:47:18 Yeah. 1.00

00:47:19 There's so much propaganda.

00:47:20 There's so many people that think it's still a terrorist religion.

00:47:23 And people have this negative idea from, from years and years of bad press.

00:47:28 But I know, I think that's a big reason too.

00:47:30 A lot of the people that have, that have turned on me, a lot of it, it didn't happen

00:47:34 before I was Muslim.

00:47:35 When I was like a degenerate and I was drinking stuff, no one, like everyone's fine.

00:47:39 They don't, they don't get like, they don't, your worldview doesn't offend them at all.

00:47:43 They're like, okay, he does what he does.

00:47:45 Now I'm a Muslim and I speak about it and I try to encourage.

00:47:48 And I think people think that I, I put out this idea that I'm better or like I'm morally

00:47:52 better.

00:47:53 I'm not.

00:47:54 I've never got that attitude from you.

00:47:55 But when you speak about Islam and you're against it, I think people, it comes off that

00:47:58 way.

00:47:59 Because your worldview challenges what they do.

00:48:01 You know, the gambling stuff or the drinking or the partying or the porn, stuff like that.

00:48:06 It makes them reflect.

00:48:08 And I think they, they get upset about their own decisions.

00:48:10 Yeah.

00:48:11 I've seen some of these guys like try to give you drinks.

00:48:12 I feel like they're trying to do it to like set you up.

00:48:14 You don't take drinks, of course.

00:48:15 But I feel like they're trying to give you a drink and like record it to be like,

00:48:17 Oh, I caught him drinking and stuff like that.

00:48:18 Yeah.

00:48:19 So many, that's happened with influencers.

00:48:20 You can just feel these guys like, you can just feel these guys trying to set you up.

00:48:23 Yeah.

00:48:24 I was at a, I was at a club after a fight and I shouldn't be there or whatever, but it

00:48:27 was the U.S.

00:48:28 A lot of the fighters were there.

00:48:29 I think it was right after Sugar Sean won.

00:48:30 So many influencers were there.

00:48:31 Oh yeah.

00:48:32 And then all these like, Oh look, bring the girl here. 1.00

00:48:35 Like, Oh, here's a drink.

00:48:36 And then like, you know, I would be like dancing or something or like holding a cup with water.

00:48:40 Yeah.

00:48:41 But you still find to dance with girls and stuff.

00:48:43 It's not like you can't do that as a Muslim.

00:48:45 You're not supposed to.

00:48:46 You're not supposed to.

00:48:47 Yeah.

00:48:48 Oops.

00:48:49 You're not supposed to.

00:48:50 I mean, there's levels of sin.

00:48:51 That's not the end of the world.

00:48:52 But yeah, you're not supposed to do that.

00:48:53 But I think, yeah, you look at it too.

00:48:54 There's different levels of sin.

00:48:55 Are you trying to be a good person?

00:48:56 That's the most, that's my Muslim friends tell me at least.

00:48:58 It's like, are you at least making effort?

00:49:00 That's more important.

00:49:01 God will view things at different, different levels.

00:49:03 You know?

00:49:04 Yeah.

00:49:05 Well, I mean, I think most Muslims don't understand how it is to be public, especially because I'm

00:49:08 new to it. 0.78

00:49:09 They don't know what it's like to be under screw.

00:49:11 And he'd like when there was this one dude who started saying that I slept with his assistant

00:49:15 and all this stuff, I had people like era social people that think people are invested

00:49:19 in the streaming world so much.

00:49:20 They're like, why didn't you tell us?

00:49:21 Why didn't you tell us?

00:49:22 Like, do you think that you're entitled to, for me to tell you like what girls are 0.94

00:49:26 interacting with? 1.00

00:49:27 Some people are like, oh, look, I just took a shit. 0.99

00:49:28 You want me to update you with everything? 0.99

00:49:30 Oh, it's so weird, right?

00:49:31 I think Muslims have this false idea that you're fraudulent if you don't reveal everything.

00:49:35 But nobody does.

00:49:36 That should be private.

00:49:37 Exactly.

00:49:38 No one needs to know who you're sleeping with or you are. 1.00

00:49:39 It's not their business.

00:49:40 It's not their business.

00:49:41 Because you're a fan of what I do does not mean you're entitled to know every detail

00:49:44 about my life.

00:49:45 And it's not about being fraudulent.

00:49:46 There's a difference between promoting something or sinning and repenting, right?

00:49:53 I think a lot of influencers think that, oh, I'm real because I show all my sins.

00:49:57 No, we shouldn't be encouraging our audience to fall into sin.

00:50:00 It's a very simple concept that they don't get.

00:50:02 No, I agree.

00:50:03 I think, you know, we should do our, you know, we're all going to sin occasionally, but we

00:50:06 should do our best to the best we can.

00:50:08 And also, we should keep large parts for life private.

00:50:10 There's a lot of things I don't share.

00:50:11 People don't need to know every aspect about my life.

00:50:13 No, they don't.

00:50:14 And it doesn't help.

00:50:15 I mean, it's not even because content is not just about like showing your life.

00:50:17 It's about putting a message out there.

00:50:19 It's about making content.

00:50:20 It's about entertaining.

00:50:21 It's not just like a mirror.

00:50:22 Yeah.

00:50:23 You know, you're not just showing people when you sleep and when you go to the bathroom.

00:50:25 No, exactly.

00:50:26 And I know I do things I shouldn't do sometimes.

00:50:28 So I'm not going to lecture other people to do it.

00:50:30 But like, oh, I know I shouldn't drink very often.

00:50:31 But, you know, occasionally I do.

00:50:33 Sometimes I'll do.

00:50:34 I haven't done drugs in a while, luckily. 0.76

00:50:35 But there's been times where I've fucked up and done drugs.

00:50:37 It's like sometimes you make mistakes in life.

00:50:38 Which everybody understands.

00:50:39 Like you drink sometimes, but you're not going to tell people you should drink.

00:50:42 You know that it's not good for you.

00:50:43 No, exactly.

00:50:44 It's very simple.

00:50:45 But what I've also realized is that Muslims are held to a different standard than every

00:50:49 other religion.

00:50:50 Right?

00:50:51 You see people call me a fake Muslim, right?

00:50:52 Yeah.

00:50:53 No one ever gets called a fake Christian.

00:50:54 Have you noticed that?

00:50:55 No one ever gets called a fake Hindu.

00:50:56 When does Rabbi Shmoli get called a fake Jew?

00:50:58 You make a great point.

00:50:59 Rabbi Shmoli, even though he sells dildos with his daughter, no one says you're a fake Jew. 0.84

00:51:02 Even though there's Christians that do cocaine and party all the time. 1.00

00:51:06 They wear the costume. 1.00

00:51:07 They kill people. 0.95

00:51:08 And no one ever calls them fake. 0.92

00:51:09 Right?

00:51:10 As long as they say Christ is king, you're still a Christian. 0.98

00:51:11 They're saved.

00:51:12 But Muslims, I don't know, people have this perception that you need to be perfect just

00:51:15 because they're Muslim.

00:51:16 But that's not…

00:51:17 No human is perfect.

00:51:18 No, it's been heavily pushed against in the US.

00:51:20 But it's so similar to Christianity.

00:51:22 You know, they both look at Christ.

00:51:23 One is the Son of God.

00:51:24 One is their top prophet.

00:51:26 It's like they both believe in one God.

00:51:27 In my opinion, the same God.

00:51:29 Some people argue it's not.

00:51:30 It is.

00:51:31 It's the same thing.

00:51:32 Allah means God in Arabic.

00:51:33 It's the same thing.

00:51:34 I know some Christians get mad when you say that.

00:51:35 But to me, it feels like it's the same God.

00:51:36 It literally is.

00:51:37 The religions seem very similar to me.

00:51:38 I feel like they've been intentionally divided.

00:51:40 It's trying to divide.

00:51:42 I mean, I tried for a while to do the, like a Christian-Muslim bridge.

00:51:46 It's just like when you do that and they're in the same place, all the bickering is just,

00:51:49 there's so much.

00:51:50 I think now that the election has happened, things have cooled down.

00:51:53 It was getting really tense before the election.

00:51:55 I think now, Trump's president, it's like we can breathe a bit, you know?

00:51:58 You know, people should be like, like I said, you're not telling them, hey, convert to Muslim,

00:52:01 or if they ask, you will, but there's no reason for them to attack you for being Muslim,

00:52:04 in my opinion.

00:52:05 And, you know, I fell for the propaganda a little bit when I was young.

00:52:08 9-11, it was pushed so heavy.

00:52:09 But then I made Muslim friends, you know?

00:52:11 And I realized, like, how, like, some of my most loyal friends,

00:52:14 and they're also a lot bigger as a whole of huge family networks.

00:52:17 Like, you know, in Afghanistan, they all have their families.

00:52:20 They all stay together.

00:52:21 And the West is losing that.

00:52:22 We don't have the family connections a lot of these other countries have. 0.98

00:52:25 And I think that's a big part of the problem of probably why the woke shit and stuff's pushing in. 0.99

00:52:28 The woke shit is, I mean, it's going to, it's going one way. 0.99

00:52:34 It's about to swing the other way for a while. 0.99

00:52:36 I think we got a good, I'm optimistic about the future.

00:52:38 The woke stuff's changed a lot already.

00:52:40 Because when I first, you know, what, four or five years ago on Twitter,

00:52:42 my stuff was so controversial.

00:52:44 Now it's not anymore.

00:52:45 It's normalized.

00:52:46 Yeah, like, because I was one of the earliest people to push against some of the trans nonsense. 1.00

00:52:49 And I used to get, like, death threats for that. 0.65

00:52:51 Serious hate.

00:52:52 People would be, like, they're scared to like my tweets.

00:52:54 Now that's fully mainstream.

00:52:55 It's so normal to make fun of LGBT and transgender. 1.00

00:52:58 Yeah, right.

00:52:59 I remember the first time I, like, mocked the Gay Pride Month. 1.00

00:53:01 All hate.

00:53:02 Now everyone's doing it.

00:53:03 Everyone does it.

00:53:04 And that was, like, three years ago, I think, the first time I mocked Pride Pride.

00:53:06 Three or four years ago, the first time I mocked the Pride Month. 0.96

00:53:08 Trump deserves a lot of credit for getting rid of that, the wokeness. 1.00

00:53:11 And for making people distrust the media.

00:53:13 And for getting rid of cancel culture. 0.88

00:53:14 Because look, the guy has felonies. 0.99

00:53:15 People call him a rapist.

00:53:16 And people just don't care. 0.98

00:53:18 Like, whatever.

00:53:19 Like, people really don't care anymore.

00:53:21 Also, I have to give credit, even though, like, the back and forth with Nick, whatever.

00:53:24 But your body, my choice, I think is the funniest tweet.

00:53:27 Such a banger tweet. 0.88

00:53:28 That's one of the times you see someone say, I wish I wrote that tweet.

00:53:31 I wish I wrote that tweet.

00:53:32 I wish I wrote that tweet.

00:53:33 That was such a banger.

00:53:34 10 out of 10.

00:53:35 I know.

00:53:36 And now it's like, people in school, you get, like, kids who are just like, you're, like,

00:53:39 they're reclaiming that.

00:53:40 Because boys are never going to be able to resonate with the left idea of what masculinity

00:53:44 is.

00:53:45 So let's switch back to the old YouTube days.

00:53:47 Because I never really followed YouTube.

00:53:48 That was, like, I was too old for that generation. 0.74

00:53:50 But I know a lot of the new kids you read, they want to become a YouTuber instead of movie star.

00:53:53 So I know you got in there.

00:53:54 What was the main content you were pushing?

00:53:56 I mean, I think the most defining thing was, I mean, I did everything.

00:53:59 I was doing street interviews, short films, documentary stuff.

00:54:02 Even some funny videos too, comedy stuff.

00:54:04 But I think the most defining things were the short films.

00:54:07 The well-edited videos were, because I was a proficient editor.

00:54:10 Yeah.

00:54:11 I was, I know how to do behind the scenes as well as I know how to be in front of the camera.

00:54:14 That's the stuff that I want people to see and that I want to get back into.

00:54:17 When I'm done streaming, I want to go into documentaries again.

00:54:20 Like the one, I don't know if you saw my Bosnia documentary.

00:54:22 I don't know if I should watch that.

00:54:23 Yeah, that one is so cool.

00:54:24 Yeah.

00:54:25 I highly recommend people check it.

00:54:26 It's called Letter from Bosnia.

00:54:27 It's pinned on my Twitter.

00:54:28 You know, that's where people can see it.

00:54:30 But that's the type of stuff that I think, you know, describes what I was doing on YouTube.

00:54:33 Yeah.

00:54:34 So you were doing like completely complex stuff at a young age.

00:54:36 Yeah.

00:54:37 Pretty, pretty much.

00:54:38 It was different than YouTube content.

00:54:39 YouTube content is, well, for when people want to be YouTubers, they want to do like fun

00:54:43 Mr. Beast videos, apples and pools and, you know.

00:54:45 They just really want to be famous, which can be fun sometimes.

00:54:47 Yeah. 1.00

00:54:48 Just stupid stuff. 1.00

00:54:49 I don't recommend it. 0.99

00:54:50 If anyone's watching this and want to be famous, I don't recommend that pursuit.

00:54:52 I think it makes a lot of people go crazy.

00:54:54 I don't think a lot of people can handle it.

00:54:55 I think it's a lot of mental stress.

00:54:56 Regardless of what people think about how easy this job is, I don't think it's a

00:55:00 pursuit that's worth it.

00:55:01 It's just not that easy.

00:55:02 Like I said, streaming, it's a lot of work streaming all day.

00:55:04 And it's like, yeah, you get some fame that way. 0.95

00:55:06 But some of these guys just make clowns of themselves. 0.79

00:55:08 Like the guy we were talking about earlier, like Fauci. 1.00

00:55:09 Some of these guys just make fools of themselves.

00:55:11 Another guy that got chased by Nate's crew. 0.97

00:55:13 What's the guy's name? 0.99

00:55:14 These guys just make clowns of themselves. 0.99

00:55:16 Yeah. 0.99

00:55:17 What do you get?

00:55:18 You get to take some pictures with people.

00:55:19 At the end of the day, you're alone in your house.

00:55:21 And then what really matters is the real relationships.

00:55:23 These are like meaningless things.

00:55:24 People take a picture of you in public that's not anything substantial.

00:55:27 It just gives you a little dopamine high when you're out.

00:55:30 Yeah.

00:55:31 I think these guys are not chasing real moments.

00:55:32 They're just chasing fame.

00:55:33 And that's why they'll sell you under because they only care about fame, not real long relationships.

00:55:37 I have so many friends that have had 20, 30 years.

00:55:39 Those are important relationships in life.

00:55:41 That's what's going to have your back when you really need it.

00:55:43 And that's what, yeah.

00:55:44 I know in life you have ups and downs.

00:55:46 If you have it down, I know my friends are still going to be there.

00:55:48 And I know other guys that have gotten famous, they have it down and no one was there for 0.99

00:55:52 them anymore because they've been scumbags. 0.96

00:55:54 There's a guy, a perfect example of this is Aiden Ross because he's one of the most influential 0.99

00:55:58 streamers.

00:55:59 He paved the way for a lot of people.

00:56:00 He kind of created the scene in a lot of ways.

00:56:02 And he's gone up and down with cancel culture.

00:56:04 He says that there was only two genders.

00:56:06 He's been a Trump supporter.

00:56:07 And then all those people that benefited from him, they disappear when he's down.

00:56:11 Yep.

00:56:12 Like they're only there when it benefits them.

00:56:14 And the people that he thought were his friends, they're gone when he really needs them.

00:56:18 And that's when friendship is really tested.

00:56:20 That's when you need friends or something really bad happens in your life.

00:56:22 That's when you need them.

00:56:23 All those guys are gone.

00:56:24 All those guys are gone.

00:56:25 Remember when those guys you called, when you need them, don't call you back.

00:56:27 Cut those people out of your life.

00:56:28 That's what we need to realize.

00:56:29 Loyalty is a two way street. 0.99

00:56:30 Don't be loyal to scumbags that aren't loyal to you. 0.97

00:56:33 And that's the type of things that will keep you up at night. 0.99

00:56:35 You're like, these people are only there because they wanted a benefit from me.

00:56:38 I learned that a while ago.

00:56:39 I started paying attention.

00:56:40 I was always so loyal.

00:56:41 That was a fault of mine.

00:56:42 So loyal, so loyal.

00:56:43 Then you realize people are stabbing you in the back.

00:56:45 And I'm like, wait, why am I being loyal to this guy that's just using me?

00:56:48 So once I've learned that, life gets way better.

00:56:50 And you just keep your circle small.

00:56:51 So sometimes you think if you have a pure heart or good heart, you think that people

00:56:56 will reciprocate your loyalty.

00:56:57 Like if I show loyalty, I'll get it back.

00:56:58 You know, you need to see it.

00:56:59 You can't just expect them to do a favor for you just because you did a favor of them.

00:57:03 Like they're only going to do it if they actually value who you are.

00:57:06 Exactly.

00:57:07 And people realize too, it's not like you're trading favors.

00:57:08 You just always try to help your friends.

00:57:10 And it's not like an exact keeping track, but his friends need help.

00:57:12 Always try to help them.

00:57:13 But if you call them one time and all of a sudden they don't, that's when you're like, 1.00

00:57:16 Oh, fuck this guy. 1.00

00:57:17 So yeah, don't, don't try to be famous. 1.00

00:57:21 No, just be authentic.

00:57:22 We're trying to be famous.

00:57:23 Like be authentic.

00:57:24 Cause there's just so much fake people.

00:57:25 If you're authentic and you're trying and you're making, make stuff that's good content

00:57:29 and it can go.

00:57:30 If you're making good stuff and different, everyone's trying to copy the same thing.

00:57:32 And it's always, the trends are always changing.

00:57:33 So if you're trying to copy what's popular now, probably won't be popular in two years.

00:57:36 And a lot of the famous fake, you know, all these streamers view bot their streamer.

00:57:40 They don't have any live viewers.

00:57:41 I didn't realize that a lot of people tell me people like, Oh, you should buy views to your YouTube.

00:57:45 And stuff like five views to my YouTube.

00:57:47 Why would I do that?

00:57:48 Like, I guess to get sponsors, but I didn't realize people are doing that.

00:57:51 It creates the podcast on a fake atmosphere and it's not long lasting, but every single

00:57:56 one of these streamers view bots.

00:57:58 Someone was telling me that.

00:57:59 I didn't realize that.

00:58:00 It was crazy.

00:58:01 I've never have, but I never will.

00:58:02 No, I won't either.

00:58:03 People tell me, Oh, you have to do that.

00:58:04 There's everyone's doing it.

00:58:05 I'm like, no, that's lame.

00:58:06 I'm not doing that.

00:58:07 And it's like, there's really 60,000 people watching us sleep.

00:58:10 They'll be sleeping on stream snoring for 10 hours and there's 60,000 people. 0.90

00:58:14 Like it's, it's ridiculous. 0.76

00:58:15 Yeah.

00:58:16 And their, their tweet promoting the stream has no likes, but then they have 30, like

00:58:19 there's nothing genuine about it, but it just boosts your self esteem.

00:58:23 That's the proof of people.

00:58:24 And they're not even really doing it for sponsors.

00:58:25 Cause most of the streams don't get sponsors.

00:58:27 They just view bot because it boosts their self esteem and it makes them feel good about

00:58:31 themselves.

00:58:32 Instagram is the same.

00:58:33 I have a friend that has an agency that sells fake followers.

00:58:35 I guess a lot of big celebrities do it too.

00:58:37 Oh yeah.

00:58:38 Miami is filled with these people.

00:58:39 They're the real celebrities even.

00:58:40 So it'll say maybe they have 5 million, but it'll say they have like 30, 40, 50 million.

00:58:43 And there's people as a random person and they have like 4 million followers.

00:58:46 You're just like, yeah, okay, bro.

00:58:47 Yeah.

00:58:48 Like who are you?

00:58:49 How would that even be possible?

00:58:50 The best metric is to see how much engagement they're getting.

00:58:51 If people are actually like commenting or responding to it.

00:58:53 Well, you can read the comments too.

00:58:54 Cause sometimes the comments, they're all just generic.

00:58:56 You can get fake comments even.

00:58:57 For like Indian guys, like nice, very good.

00:58:59 Like exactly.

00:59:00 It's fine.

00:59:01 It's like so embarrassing.

00:59:02 People that are going to pay for fake.

00:59:03 I think it's embarrassing.

00:59:04 At least like, why would you do this?

00:59:06 It is.

00:59:07 But yeah.

00:59:08 Stay real.

00:59:09 I think that's what the future is.

00:59:10 People want to.

00:59:11 Trump's election is a perfect example.

00:59:12 People want authenticity.

00:59:13 They want what's real.

00:59:14 They don't care about like this fraud, felony, fake recharging. 1.00

00:59:17 Grab it by the pussy. 1.00

00:59:18 Grab it right by the pussy. 1.00

00:59:19 Grab it by the pussy. 1.00

00:59:20 Grab it by the pussy. 1.00

00:59:21 Grab it by the pussy. 1.00

00:59:22 That's true. 1.00

00:59:23 I agree.

00:59:24 And I think that's why both of us have been successful in life.

00:59:25 We're authentic.

00:59:26 And it does create a lot of haters.

00:59:27 The weird part, you know, being real crazy.

00:59:29 A lot of people are hating you because they're not.

00:59:30 So they get like jealous, but I think that's the way to move forward in life.

00:59:34 It's a reflection of their own flaws.

00:59:36 Yeah.

00:59:37 Did your YouTube grow fast or did it take a long time, years of hard work?

00:59:40 It took a long time.

00:59:41 I didn't get a million subscribers until it took like eight, seven, eight years.

00:59:45 Wow.

00:59:46 Almost 10 million subscribers.

00:59:47 A lot.

00:59:48 So you were really big on YouTube.

00:59:49 I had 2 million before I was, even before I started streaming, I had 1.3 million just

00:59:52 from video, from like a different genre.

00:59:54 It's funny because like now when I go back to New York and stream, I have all these liberals

00:59:58 with like nose rings, they come up to you like, I used to watch you.

01:00:00 And then people who now watch my streaming with all these conservatives, like what the 0.99

01:00:03 fuck? 0.99

01:00:04 Because they don't know that it was a completely different audience. 1.00

01:00:05 Pretty different.

01:00:06 Yeah.

01:00:07 Yeah.

01:00:08 But really, I think we both get called far right, but really in the middle is what's

01:00:10 weird.

01:00:11 You think you're in the middle?

01:00:12 I'm a little right, I guess.

01:00:13 Yeah.

01:00:14 They're not far right.

01:00:15 No, but there's some things I'm like, I don't know.

01:00:17 I'm not necessarily against saying like free healthcare.

01:00:19 Like why shouldn't, why if someone gets cancer, should they go broke?

01:00:22 I don't really think so.

01:00:23 I think our healthcare system is a mess.

01:00:24 It would need to be cheaper and fixed, but I think it's not fair that someone can't afford

01:00:28 medical.

01:00:29 That's extremely left wing view.

01:00:31 I guess.

01:00:32 I guess.

01:00:33 But I think the better way to classify right or left is really social issues.

01:00:37 When it comes to social, the taxes, stuff like that, that's a separate, I guess it's

01:00:42 still false.

01:00:43 Those things are really important though.

01:00:44 They want us, we're fighting over training, but these other things are important.

01:00:47 I don't want to pay the same amount of taxes.

01:00:49 The things are medical is expensive is the problem because we overpay.

01:00:52 Almost every other country has free medical, but they don't pay the same rates we do or

01:00:55 every other industrialized country.

01:00:57 What do you think is the best example of a country with good healthcare?

01:01:00 Well, I went to a hospital in Thailand and I thought it was going to be absolutely terrible.

01:01:04 It wasn't free, but it was so much better than American hospitals and so much cheaper.

01:01:09 That was when I first go, wow, America needs to be, I've had two staph infections.

01:01:13 I went in the US.

01:01:14 Like $3,000, the worst experience, hours, terrible care.

01:01:17 They didn't even treat it right.

01:01:18 I had to go to a second doctor.

01:01:19 Thailand, it was amazing.

01:01:21 $200.

01:01:22 The doctor was way better.

01:01:23 Fixed me right away.

01:01:24 Clean, in and out.

01:01:25 I was like, why is it a 10th a price and so much better in Thailand?

01:01:28 It shouldn't be that way.

01:01:30 It's the corruption between the insurance companies or the drug prices.

01:01:35 Everything's just corrupt in America.

01:01:36 It's a problem.

01:01:37 Basically, it needs to be scrapped and redone.

01:01:39 There still should be private hospitals you pay for, but there should be a basic free care, I think, for people.

01:01:44 I mean, that's the problem.

01:01:46 Capitalism and communism both flawed.

01:01:48 Both ideas, there's going to be flaws in each one. 0.85

01:01:52 That's the contradictory part because even then, I voted for Trump and all the Muslims are like, 1.00

01:01:58 Oh, Trump's a capitalist.

01:01:59 He doesn't stand for this.

01:02:00 He doesn't believe this.

01:02:01 We're never going to align perfectly with any politician.

01:02:03 Yeah.

01:02:04 Overall, I think capitalism is definitely the best system, but again, it has flaws.

01:02:07 It does.

01:02:08 It does.

01:02:09 But I do.

01:02:10 America's pretty great.

01:02:11 There's guys like us.

01:02:12 I don't know if you grew up poor, middle class or what, but I grew up pretty poor.

01:02:15 And I have so many friends who grew up pretty poor that are all millionaires now.

01:02:18 Now, it's really hard to become like a billionaire here, but it's not that hard to become a millionaire in America.

01:02:22 Not the million dollars for crazy money anymore.

01:02:24 But it's pretty easy to become a, not easy to say, but it's not the hardest place to make a good living here.

01:02:30 What would you recommend people do?

01:02:32 How do they go from being poor to, because I've never heard someone say it's easy to become a millionaire.

01:02:37 Not easy, but easier than anywhere else.

01:02:39 I work my ass off, I guess.

01:02:40 So easy, that was definitely the wrong statement.

01:02:43 But I have multiple friends that have become millionaires that grew up super poor.

01:02:47 You just have to pick whatever it wants to be and work your ass off.

01:02:50 There's so many different ways you could do it.

01:02:52 But, I mean, everyone said don't put your eggs in one basket.

01:02:55 But some of the things it's better to just find something to hyper focus on.

01:02:58 I agree.

01:02:59 I don't think you should diversify too much.

01:03:00 I think it's better to hone in on one skill and stick to what you know.

01:03:03 Yeah.

01:03:04 When fighting, that's all I was doing.

01:03:05 You know, when you're doing too many projects at once.

01:03:07 I mean, I cut a couple of projects out now.

01:03:10 I was going to start like three or four projects at once.

01:03:11 And I'm like, the podcast is so much more work than I thought.

01:03:13 And I'm like, you know what?

01:03:14 I'm going to cut some of these other projects out at least for the next year and add these next year.

01:03:17 Yeah.

01:03:18 Because you're not going to be able to succeed really if your attention is diverted on so many things.

01:03:22 No.

01:03:23 That's why I disagree with it.

01:03:24 Don't put your eggs on one basket.

01:03:25 Like sometimes the best thing you can do is do that.

01:03:26 So.

01:03:27 Well, hey man.

01:03:28 Thanks so much for coming on.

01:03:29 We have somewhere else we have to be.

01:03:30 But really appreciate the interview.

01:03:31 We'll talk to you soon.

01:03:32 Hey, Jay Shields.

01:03:33 I appreciate it.

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SNEAKO - November 23, 2024

SNEAKO & Jake Shields Full Podcast： Future MMA Streams, Nick Fuentes & Adin Ross, & More

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