SNEAKO - January 06, 2023


SNEAKO Reacts To Based Woman Exposing VICE!


Episode Stats

Length

20 minutes

Words per Minute

173.73212

Word Count

3,493

Sentence Count

86

Misogynist Sentences

25

Hate Speech Sentences

23


Summary

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In this episode of Sips tea, Sydney talks about her experience on a VaynerSpeakers panel about feminism, and why she thinks it was one of the most unhelpful discussions she has ever participated in.

Transcript

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00:00:00.120 I was on Vice's insane feminism panel, this one of the base girls, remember, do you remember
00:00:04.920 watching this with PearlyThings?
00:00:06.380 Ha!
00:00:06.700 Wait!
00:00:07.280 I just, uh, PearlyThings just dropped her podcast with me today, but this is the girl,
00:00:10.560 apparently she's a YouTuber and she talks about this.
00:00:12.800 Do you know that they hid the comments on the original video?
00:00:15.340 It's funny that this still has a million views and the debate panel only has 800,000, but
00:00:19.500 they hid the comments and you know, Pearl told me that there was six hours of footage
00:00:22.880 and they cut it down to 40 minutes because Elle Vice in the chat, Vice's liberal propaganda
00:00:27.700 and they clearly want to push a specific message remember peter griffin
00:00:33.500 i cut my balls off okay so yeah of course it's it's it's frustrating l demon laugh because when
00:00:42.360 we try to talk about it we get shouted down we get told to be quiet we we get we get spooking
00:00:47.140 down too as well so there's hostility there for plenty of women let's try to make this an
00:00:52.440 opportunity to speak you're literally she's she's that demon laugh is describing what's happening
00:00:58.160 right now and chad is this a dude is this a dude a white woman from australia you live in a bubble
00:01:04.220 and you're pissed that voices that have been silenced forever finally can be heard oh my god
00:01:09.500 look at her who laughs like this what are you a batman villain
00:01:13.040 w woman humor hi my name is sydney welcome back to hell and hell it is indeed now for those of
00:01:22.940 you who don't know a couple months back i flew to new york to participate on a vice panel about
00:01:28.220 feminism and that video recently dropped if you haven't watched it yet i will link it in the
00:01:33.260 description so as per usual you can suffer in your own time fun fact this is also the reason i was in
00:01:39.000 york which led to me being on the flight where i became the meat in the human sandwich and if you
00:01:44.120 don't know what that situation why is a cherokee movie this reminds me of like 20 2009 youtube is
00:01:50.280 all about i will link some things in the description box as well because it kind of sounds like you too
00:01:55.240 enjoy suffering anyway if you've been here a while sips tea you will know that i have done many panels
00:02:02.280 and discussions and debates with all sorts of people including feminists about feminism and
00:02:08.040 And most of these, most, being the operative work
00:02:10.520 You peeped those eyelashes.
00:02:14.040 Are those li-li-lis?
00:02:15.520 Have been overall positive experiences.
00:02:18.460 They're not ones that I look back on and want a memory hole and then bury in the backyard like a serial killer.
00:02:24.320 I hadn't, however, worked with Vice before.
00:02:27.340 So when they reached out and they said, do you want to participate on this panel?
00:02:30.020 I genuinely thought, yep, that sounds like it could be cool.
00:02:33.320 I also get asked a lot.
00:02:35.100 Like, I mean a lot.
00:02:36.520 why i even bother doing these things with these openly leftist outlets because there is a chance
00:02:42.620 that they will deceptively edit there is a chance yep her and pearl both pointed that out vice
00:02:47.200 vice vice so they will do things maliciously and people are right that's why they disabled the
00:02:53.060 comments because everybody was saying post the full six hours they should just live stream
00:02:57.460 everything now because then it's it would be really easy to expose the bullshit if everything
00:03:01.540 was live streamed that and i will answer that question in this video a little bit later on
00:03:05.340 but I do want to note that of all of my experiences doing panels and discussions like this,
00:03:11.420 this was one of the most unhelpful conversations I have ever participated in.
00:03:16.820 It's, it's, it's...
00:03:18.540 Is this how they summon the spirits of oppression?
00:03:22.960 No, just demons?
00:03:24.740 Oh, that makes more sense.
00:03:26.640 I say this was unhelpful for so many reasons,
00:03:29.900 and I have so many thoughts about this whole thing,
00:03:32.280 but for the sake of brevity I'm going to condense my thoughts so sorry if I don't get to all the
00:03:38.620 things in this video. Regrettably a ride on this here hell gondola can only be so long. Hello it is
00:03:45.180 me Sydney from the future. I forgot to add and I think it's important that before you once again
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00:04:15.120 Get to the point, lady!
00:04:16.680 The coffee.
00:04:17.800 I think first and foremost, most of the people who were on this panel were not friendly.
00:04:24.240 Putting it mildly.
00:04:25.340 And I don't believe that they were there to exchange ideas or have a good faith conversation.
00:04:30.080 And when I say that, I need you guys to understand that we filmed for maybe four or five hours on the day, maybe even more.
00:04:38.360 I don't know, it's all blended together at this stage.
00:04:41.000 So the 40 plus minutes of Vice content that you see now has been distilled from hours of footage.
00:04:47.880 So the majority of what these people had to say was cut, and they still come out at the end looking unbelievably not nice.
00:04:55.420 So I want you to think about how bad that was on the day.
00:04:59.080 pearl said that there was crying there was like way more arguments they were freaking out even
00:05:02.880 more so before i even got to new york i sat down and watched the same panel on feminism that vice
00:05:09.440 did a couple years ago and my takeaway from that was everybody on that panel was whoa this there's
00:05:16.320 an old one to conservatives and progressives debate feminism respectful they were very polite
00:05:20.500 and the conversation even if i didn't agree with some of the things that were being said
00:05:24.420 was a good conversation overall.
00:05:26.840 And I think if I'm being honest,
00:05:28.400 that kind of set the tone for my expectations of my panel.
00:05:32.420 You know, I guess I genuinely and maybe stupidly thought,
00:05:36.640 great, this is what Vice is going to try to do again.
00:05:40.100 I was deeply and inherently incorrect.
00:05:43.460 For those of you who follow me on Twitter particularly,
00:05:45.740 you'll know that I can be a bit spicy.
00:05:47.620 And by spicy, I mean the overlord of hell.
00:05:50.640 But in these real life situations,
00:05:52.420 and especially with regard to this panel i don't go into them expecting a smackdown i wanted to
00:05:59.160 listen and be respectful and have a conversation and i say that not expecting no libs don't know
00:06:05.620 how to do it they're so stuck in their ways they're so brainwashed they just
00:06:08.380 girls thanks for the five hey see good love your content always any first-timers making money
00:06:14.160 online what industry should they get into creativity kit february 1st we'll talk about
00:06:18.400 all of that bro let me go yell about feminists right now but february 1st you should get into
00:06:21.940 the creativity kit but we even have a we have a call tomorrow 4 p.m if you want to talk about it
00:06:25.320 thing to have my mind changed necessarily but i'm always open and happy to have a discussion
00:06:32.400 a fruitful discussion not whatever the hell this was there's a lot of privilege pretty privilege
00:06:39.680 privilege and what you're saying and that you're white and you present you're white i think i'm
00:06:44.360 pretty thank you i think you present in a way that beauty standards have accepted if we're going to
00:06:49.920 talk about pretty privilege can i just note how vice did me so dirty with this thumbnail
00:06:56.040 it's all intentional like who signed off on this if the libs you're gonna use me in a thumbnail
00:07:03.160 i insist you use a thirst photo like the w the internet wants only i can post a squish face
00:07:10.140 the disrespect it is like such conservative thinking to say like i don't understand explain
00:07:16.860 it to me versus just saying i don't understand and let me respect what you are saying drugs are
00:07:22.380 what what what so people have talked about equity instead which is um instead of sameness it's
00:07:30.720 fairness and this would mean that we remove w pearl hey you know that this uh this man over
00:07:38.660 here this is actually a man was accused of grooming children which i'm telling you i was
00:07:43.320 I've been trying to read people about this.
00:07:44.980 The LGBT is going down the rabbit hole.
00:07:47.140 They're calling minor attracted people instead of pedophiles now.
00:07:51.220 That's the new step.
00:07:52.340 That's the new letter.
00:07:54.960 LGBTQIAP, pedo.
00:07:56.220 Systemic barriers to engage in society.
00:08:00.420 It's like assuming that we all want to be capitalist babies.
00:08:03.020 I'm saying that if you don't have the mindset you can even achieve it,
00:08:06.220 you're never going to even try.
00:08:07.460 But achieve what?
00:08:08.680 What are we talking about?
00:08:09.820 Because I feel like he's projected this, like, capitalist ideology on every woman.
00:08:14.040 It's like there are the barriers, right, that we constantly ignore that are very much systemic and microaggressive, right?
00:08:20.220 We see them and experience them every day.
00:08:21.780 So I'm thinking male versus female.
00:08:24.260 But my feminism includes ability.
00:08:26.440 It includes race.
00:08:28.280 Wait, wait, wait.
00:08:28.760 You hear that bullshit?
00:08:29.940 My feminism.
00:08:30.720 Not only do they have their own gender identity and own gender self-expression,
00:08:36.300 this bitch is crippled and came up with their own definition for feminism.
00:08:39.820 versus female but my feminism includes ability it includes race that's not you're just a cripple
00:08:45.400 like no funny i can not any disrespect but you not having legs has nothing to do with your feminism
00:08:51.480 where do you hold the creativity kit calls there's a link in description check it out women want to
00:08:55.840 sleep around and not have any consequence for it hell yeah we do yeah yeah instead of you know
00:09:02.800 taking person brah brah no accountability and being on birth control they just want to like
00:09:07.460 do whatever they want you say this like yeah it almost sounds like i think this is just the face
00:09:15.220 of me being done i don't know about the rest of you but i walked away from this panel on the day
00:09:19.480 thinking that the entire state of not only conversation has regressed but ideology because
00:09:25.700 a lot of the views that were being espoused are so far removed from reality reality at least from
00:09:32.060 my perspective that i simply cannot find common ground with these people not enough to have a
00:09:42.660 meaningful conversation and certainly not enough to work towards the same imperatives and initiatives
00:09:48.440 because what are you doing i did mention this at the end of the vice video but i think this is a
00:09:55.840 good representation of why feminism is dying it has been cannibalized by calling her a wheelchair
00:10:02.320 whale is crazy leftism the transgender movement and i'll add here intersectionalism i don't know
00:10:09.140 if that's whatever the fuck they're too far gone they're too far gone they're beyond saving just
00:10:13.260 let them be let them be and get better this year man there was a chat saying that yesterday i fed
00:10:17.880 the trolls too much true it's gonna be high energy only from now on bro i don't give a fuck my own
00:10:21.560 trolls and q says when he goes stop this woman is an enemy of yay 24 nick fuentes watch elijah
00:10:26.160 schaefer x nick fuentes interview that i put in discord she a demon bro it's you can't expect
00:10:31.680 every single woman to be on board with whittler like you know you know it's only so far she's
00:10:38.720 making sense in this video this is bot level stuff i get it but damn should i check out that video
00:10:44.380 chat or do you guys don't care it's a word intersectionality which likely explains why
00:10:48.800 feminists on the panel couldn't stick to the topics surrounding feminism, but instead endlessly
00:10:54.120 diverted the conversation towards completely irrelevant points. Most of which, like I said,
00:10:59.440 got cut because if they'd kept them, no one would know what the heck was going on. This was one of
00:11:05.320 my biggest issues with this panel. It didn't feel like a discussion about feminism and female issues,
00:11:10.680 it felt like a struggle session. Which is why in the final edit about 14 minutes in,
00:11:16.680 I make these comments.
00:11:46.680 falls off the planet and loses i would argue probably the vast majority of people including
00:11:51.260 me i'm not even a feminist i don't give a crap about feminists arguing amongst themselves about
00:11:55.860 who's the most victimized but this is annoying to listen to i honestly just i don't understand
00:12:00.800 anything anybody's even trying to get at and because like i mentioned so much of the original
00:12:05.260 footage was cut my statement here might seem a little out of place but for context at the time
00:12:11.960 there was so much bickering happening people were going on irrelevant tangents about
00:12:17.140 unrelated things jingle jangles over here bro that that's the face of an actual demon
00:12:22.580 walking on earth had told us at length about her parents being refugees she also went on a bizarre
00:12:29.440 rant asking us why we aren't discussing other countries and other countries issues on this
00:12:34.900 panel the panelists were fixated on their own personal struggles intersectionality and calling
00:12:40.400 attention to their race or disability or whatever so many sentences were started with as a fill the
00:12:46.880 blank it was not terrific as a trans black bi poc cripple fatty i think that feminism is about
00:12:56.920 being a fat trans cripple bi poc afro latina pedophile queer i'm not a fan i do have to admit
00:13:05.020 it is a little bit weird being condescended to by a room full of people who think that they're
00:13:09.600 protagonist in a young adult fiction novel victimization the jingle jangle story it's
00:13:16.560 i just remembered this and i'm gonna add it in we had to raise our hands about halfway through
00:13:21.760 maybe not maybe maybe earlier than that we had to raise our hands at some stage because the
00:13:26.560 conversation was so chaotic and because the talking over top of each other was so chaotic
00:13:31.440 that uh we had to raise our hands to be called upon to speak so there is that too
00:13:37.760 So eventually we arrived at the transgender portion of the conversation.
00:13:43.840 Because there's always a transgender portion.
00:13:46.880 Can't have feminism without some girl dick.
00:13:50.480 I'm sorry that's, that is not funny.
00:13:53.440 With that being said, there were two trans people on this panel.
00:13:56.960 The one sitting next to me is called Jordan.
00:13:59.440 And while we didn't agree on plenty of things.
00:14:01.440 Oh the Peter Griffin one.
00:14:02.400 Jordan was incredibly respectful and very kind.
00:14:04.960 The other trans person is called Eli Ehrlich.
00:14:29.680 Who also tweeted that those of us on the right on this panel are fascists.
00:14:34.640 It's a shame all that HRT can't lead to some originality.
00:14:41.520 What's important here is that Eli has a very colored history,
00:14:45.520 with some extremely serious allegations that he threw out.
00:14:49.840 And I will say that I did call some of these things out to Eli's face during the panel,
00:14:55.360 but unfortunately they didn't make the final cut. I wonder why.
00:15:00.000 They actually asked me about my comments at the end and I was just like,
00:15:02.800 Like, do you not know who you invite to your own studio?
00:15:08.400 Do you have access to an internet?
00:15:11.120 Yeah, I mean, we might be fascist, but at least we don't see-
00:15:13.440 Thugs like food that's moist and meaty.
00:15:17.120 I'm gonna have to bleep that out.
00:15:18.860 Now, the majority of the trans conversation did not make it to the final cut.
00:15:22.420 And I don't actually blame them for that because...
00:15:26.100 But we did get onto the conversation of biological males playing against women in female sports.
00:15:31.300 and because Pearl was or still is is was at I don't know because Pearl has been or potentially
00:15:40.280 still is a semi-pro athlete this was a conversation that was particularly sensitive for her and she
00:15:47.760 did have a lot to say about the matter. I'm sorry that I keep inserting all these random little
00:15:51.820 notes but I'm remembering things as I'm talking and there was one particularly humorous moment
00:15:56.500 for me where uh eli and i were backing and forthing about the sports thing and i basically
00:16:01.560 said you don't play at the same level that pearl does you don't play remotely similarly to what
00:16:08.360 pearl is doing and eli tried to say that the high level of archery that eli participates in
00:16:15.140 is comparable to what pearl does
00:16:18.320 like what are you talking about this doesn't make any sense
00:16:25.320 oh my goodness okay i'm good i'm good i don't know there's just kind of something intolerable
00:16:34.560 about this social thing that we're doing where we allow non-biological women to shoot down the
00:16:41.000 lived experiences of biological females and then tell us that it's transphobia when we tell them
00:16:47.540 that what they're saying is nonsense i also feel like there's a joke in here about mansplaining
00:16:53.200 but i am not going to walk that path because i don't want to get banned so back to the point
00:17:00.020 apparently talking you can't even joke about men's money i need batu about transgender women
00:17:04.920 in female sports was a very sore spot for the feminists on the panel which is just really
00:17:11.700 amusing in and of itself for a multitude of reasons but until this point they had been
00:17:17.360 quite aggressive and on several occasions i had said to them there's no need to be this
00:17:22.780 aggressive. Police stop. It's always the smallest ones who are the angriest. Like, what is the air
00:17:29.000 coder down there? What's going on? So as Pearl was relaying her experiences as a semi-pro athlete,
00:17:36.500 the three horsemen of the apocalypse decided yet again to attack her for what she was saying.
00:17:42.620 Even if I have years more of training, and so it's like you're taking away the little
00:17:49.600 opportunity that we're given and we all work so hard for and you're just giving it back to
00:17:54.420 biological guys it's like this will be the end of women's sports have you tried confidence
00:17:59.040 sorry confidence can't make me bench what a guy benches confidence can't make me six seven
00:18:04.740 she's sharing her experience no she's sharing and i'd have to go no she's not she's she's a woman
00:18:11.600 who's had an experience you guys are so obsessed with your own experiences and your own existence
00:18:17.480 and yet when a woman is sitting here telling you I feel as though this is unfair and this is
00:18:21.940 compromising and this situation is not helping women you guys are like but when you're like I'm
00:18:27.000 a black person that did this this this and this then it's valid and fair and viable they cut the
00:18:32.340 end of my statement here which is actually something that I think they've done a lot
00:18:36.260 initially I was like yeah I think this is fairly good editing but watching this back several times
00:18:40.160 I see now that they're cutting what I'm saying mid-sentence or they're cutting out the bulk of
00:18:45.180 my point which is generally unhelpful you can hear the cuts based on where i'm taking a breath
00:18:51.500 human being confirmed what these people did to pearl and also me in a clip that i will show you
00:18:56.480 very soon is something that i notice a lot with progressives and it's basically where
00:19:02.060 they structure their view of themselves with the labels that they use to describe themselves
00:19:08.200 basically they use these labels to describe the many many ways that they are victimized by society
00:19:14.880 or the ways that their life is very challenging.
00:19:18.720 On the flip side, however,
00:19:20.000 if you are somebody who responds in kind
00:19:21.820 and tries to tell them about an experience
00:19:23.620 that you have had,
00:19:24.900 they use those same labels,
00:19:26.600 labels that they don't like,
00:19:28.180 to shoot you down and tell you
00:19:30.240 that your opinion doesn't count
00:19:31.500 or your experience is invalid.
00:19:33.320 And they do that,
00:19:34.080 which you've actually seen in this panel already
00:19:36.040 by telling you that you're privileged
00:19:37.640 or that you're white or that you're pretty
00:19:39.360 or that you're skinny or that you're tall
00:19:40.960 or whatever thing they don't like,
00:19:44.560 whatever thing denotes that your life is easier than theirs like i mentioned okay yeah no for the
00:19:49.860 right chat skip skip skip and i got my own flavor of this when eli and i were backing and forth
00:19:53.960 look at my chat's detention spam
00:19:55.580 yo um
00:20:00.040 that's it
00:20:05.720 this is your job