SNEAKO - SNEAKO Reacts To Destiny & Sulaiman Ahmed's Debate

00:00:00.000 so the intent is there they're precisely targeting the children the actions have demonstrated that

00:00:07.480 they have precisely attacked the children in terms of what you said um about 35 000 they've not told

00:00:13.240 people to move because in reality we've seen people to move they've killed so many people

00:00:17.080 in the safe zones so what they're doing is they're telling people go to this area this area is a safe

00:00:21.380 zone and then they're bombing and killing them and we've seen that time and time and time again

00:00:25.220 we've seen people who basically wave the white flags of uh surrender they've been killed

00:00:29.300 americans were killed uh when they were doing that they killed their own hostages in the same 0.78

00:00:33.920 manner think about those or in them air trucks they did the exact same thing in terms of the booby traps

00:00:38.900 obviously that's just fake news in terms of al-shafar that was the biggest debunked i'm surprised that

00:00:43.940 these uh debunked propaganda pieces are being used here because we've already debunked them al-shafar

00:00:48.320 wasn't a military installation al-shafar had nothing in it the most embarrassing videos where they were

00:00:53.620 this looks like um doesn't this look like neon and aiden ross in 10 years this is when they finally

00:00:59.340 make up and then they get red pilled and this is going to be the aiden ross versus neon zionism

00:01:04.680 debate not a military place what happened was there were some injured people who were taken there

00:01:08.940 because injured people irrespective of whether they're civilians or not will be taken to certain

00:01:13.020 hospitals and that happens and that happened to the israeli hostages as well because they were

00:01:17.180 injured and then doctors do their oath of looking after them and that's what they did

00:01:21.420 unlike the israeli doctors who were basically supporting is destiny out grinder supporting the

00:01:25.280 attack on hospitals this attack this fake news about hospitals only because there was oprah

00:01:28.960 about the first hospital they attacked and they got exposed so badly in terms of icj this is fake

00:01:33.960 news what you said they literally said it was a plausible case of genocide and then you said oh and

00:01:37.660 they're saying that the case was there to show that there was a genocide so you admitted it in your

00:01:41.880 own i came up with this question yesterday it was is is israel committing genocide let's see

00:01:46.980 how mass people killed that is the most fakest news ever i must keep saying that there's not

00:01:52.460 been those numbers in terms of people killed that is the most fakest news ever i must keep saying

00:01:56.520 let me just get on time get uh your last side and then your last side and then we'll go to the

00:02:00.500 next question where's fresh yeah yeah uh intentionally attacking people is not the special intent to

00:02:05.120 commit genocide the special intent to commit genocide has to be higher than just attacking a foreign

00:02:10.260 nation that you're at war with it has to be here again then the key the crucial part here is you

00:02:14.400 have to be able to differentiate genocide from just war um when you talk about al-shifah hospital

00:02:19.240 has been debunked no it hasn't they tried to debunk the first one they did it with with very little

00:02:23.700 satisfaction but then uh israel literally came back through and found that al-shifah had been

00:02:27.460 re-inhabited by islamic jihad by hamas and they had a whole other fight a month ago here it lasted two

00:02:33.440 weeks were they fighting for two weeks against palestinian civilians in that hospital uh the idea 0.85

00:02:38.120 ever said that they've arrested 900 people as part of the rate 500 that they've already confirmed

00:02:41.760 as being part of hamas or being part of palestinian islamic jihad there's no way that that that second 0.51

00:02:46.600 siege took two whole weeks if it was just civilians it doesn't make any sense it's impossible

00:02:50.460 when you talk about attacking safe zones israel has one singular safe zone and that is the al-mawasi

00:02:56.140 beach which is west of yankunas and that place has never been uh or khan yunas that place has never

00:03:01.720 been attacked by israel there there's only been one report why does his jaw move side to side

00:03:05.480 people don't know where it comes from some people say israel but it's on the outside of the beach

00:03:08.940 there's no video evidence of this there's no uh actual picture evidence of this so the idea that

00:03:12.460 israel is attacking safe zones that it's telling people to go to is just not true um when you talk

00:03:16.440 about like aid trucks getting shot that was a horrible mistake that wck thing was really bad

00:03:20.240 but you also have to acknowledge that hamas literally operates out of aid trucks they've

00:03:23.980 operated of ambulances we've seen videos of of hospital garbed people picking up weapons and

00:03:28.820 running them to the other side of the street to give to hamas while they're fighting so the idea

00:03:32.760 that like hamas is not actively trying to engage in exactly this type of behavior and then to say

00:03:37.320 oh well i've never heard of that before again if you trust these uh if i could gamble out i would

00:03:41.220 put money that destiny is on 60 milligrams adderall right now 2014 going over a progressive um or this

00:03:46.620 adderall job edge with that whole military operation they show that there is an interrogation torture room

00:03:51.380 as part of the al-shifah hospital this isn't even contested in part of these international

00:03:54.960 humanitarian communities anymore and again that uh the ex the ex-president of the icj came out and said

00:04:00.820 we did not rule that genocide was plausible she said that verbatim on the bbc because that is not what

00:04:05.820 they were tasked with ruling all right um and then freshest take fresh one and then i will i think

00:04:11.420 you go first for the second question because destiny went first on this one then destiny will get last

00:04:14.820 word on the next one what's freshest take right so coming back to it right of course there has to be

00:04:19.500 special intent because the intent needs to be there to do it that doesn't mean and what is the intent

00:04:24.020 for intent isn't to kill no one said that it said the intent for genocide and we've said that intent was

00:04:29.200 there to have genocide to do genocide and the prime example is you admit that they specifically target

00:04:34.340 uh certain areas is precise attack if you're precisely attacking and you're killing so many

00:04:38.700 women and children that demonstrates your attempt uh intent in terms of what you mentioned about

00:04:43.900 hamas hamas look in terms of october the 7th they were resisting occupation and so again this is another

00:04:49.680 false notion where you try and make it look like things started on october 7th in terms of al-shifar

00:04:53.460 the two weeks thing that is completely fake right because in reality what happened was they'd completely

00:04:58.600 darken the area nobody knew what happened what we do know is as soon as the we were it was undarked or we

00:05:03.740 were able to see what what actually happened we saw a scenario where they had killed so many

00:05:09.060 civilians they had put they had massacred so many people we saw graves with 200 people 300 people

00:05:15.460 400 people it was crazy what's fresh thinking about massacres we'd ever seen this history will

00:05:20.840 remember the massacre that occurred in around the area of al-shifar let's go to the church al-shifar

00:05:26.540 hospital it wasn't hamas these guys went and just absolutely pillaged and destroyed the place there is 0.98

00:05:31.020 again zero evidence from people saying that al-shifar had any facilities actually the videos

00:05:35.760 got exposed when they we looked at the videos none of them were inside al-shifar none of them had

00:05:39.760 actual bases in al-shifar the calendar was so embarrassing they'd created it the weapons they 0.58

00:05:44.800 brought them in it was so so embarrassing um in terms of safe zones completely fake news that there's

00:05:51.860 only one safe zone there's been many safe zones rafa is an example of a safe zone and was killed and

00:05:58.080 many innocent people were killed in in safe zones i've posted many videos in terms of people being

00:06:02.440 killed in uh safe zones in terms of in terms of the world uh that was attacked it's so embarrassing

00:06:08.640 it had the logos on there these guys knew that that was one of the few places that they're gonna

00:06:12.440 allow to give aid they bombed one then they bombed a second and then they bombed a third and they did

00:06:17.400 it and they killed americans and british people this is the level of the genocidal nature of this

00:06:21.940 they know there's no blowback sulaiman's cooking okay um so good point so the next question we're

00:06:27.540 gonna get into and this one uh sulaiman's gonna kick this one off and then that's when we get the

00:06:31.320 last word is anti-semitism used to stop free speech the question again is or the topic is

00:06:39.500 is anti-semitism used to stop free who was in the twitter space yesterday when we got these questions

00:06:44.700 of course it is and i hope destiny's consistent on this because he gave us a whole speech at the

00:06:49.180 beginning i'm like behind the scenes manipulating this debate chat we've seen it these same people

00:06:55.380 i gave him a layer crying and crying and crying about identity politics are the same people who

00:07:00.580 are literally crying about anti-semitism you basically got the u.s government saying that

00:07:04.800 anti-semitism is occurring when hardly any anti-semitism has occurred in the in the universities

00:07:08.800 again many of those claims were debunked what they really don't want and no what's freshest

00:07:15.900 and they proved it by the bill that was here we go oh hold on hold on easy easy chill chill chill chill

00:07:21.900 chill chill chill no there we go that anything can be anti-semitism

00:07:35.740 so for example now and these are the same people

00:07:39.100 bro bro used to cry about identity politics when it comes to racism when it comes to islamophobia when

00:07:44.960 it comes to these various other things so yeah anti-semitism has been used to end free speech they

00:07:50.160 did it in certain european countries when it was denial of the holocaust why isn't an individual able

00:07:54.760 to have free speech and deny it and then they did that in the united states you guys had about as i

00:07:58.740 believe it 32 states that don't even let you freely take part in bds which is boycotting israel

00:08:05.080 this is the level of 32 states and now the university protests have been shut down based on these false

00:08:10.980 accusations of anti-semitism you see people being banned on twitter for this elon musk right twitter

00:08:17.040 is the most free speech platform and yet he's banned from the river to the sea because it's a call for

00:08:22.220 genocide when it clearly isn't it's interpretation one side it says it is one side it says it isn't and

00:08:26.660 it's not even there's no rebuttal to this argument yeah they made that into illegal just based on

00:08:31.780 anti-semitism they've made it illegal to say though they're attacking the fact that christ is

00:08:35.720 saying christ is king is anti-semitism they want to edit the bible they want to basically make it

00:08:39.720 so that anyone who calls out the zionist terrorist regime you basically have a scenario where you're

00:08:44.640 basically given the wc go for this layup question wc go for this layup stop that allow free speech in

00:08:50.800 a country where the first amendment was created where they allowed free speech they're destroying the

00:08:54.460 very country as he said the best country for a reason but now it no longer is gonna be okay

00:08:59.040 destiny turn it to you um is there's no rebuttal there's no rebuttal to this it's over to some

00:09:03.200 extent it can be i think that all identity politics is but this isn't unique to jews again like muslims 0.99

00:09:07.400 will threaten to kill you if you post pictures of muhammad on twitter uh there's not a bigger 0.98

00:09:10.620 attack against freedom of speech than somebody threatening to behead you because you drew a 0.66

00:09:13.500 picture of their you know favorite but he's still here i think that's pretty interesting he's still

00:09:16.460 here there's three muslims right like we talk about anti-semitism a lot and that argument and people do 0.99

00:09:20.780 this a lot is people aren't honest about their positions you know i think in the united states you

00:09:23.940 should be allowed to be anti-semitic that's part of your constitutional god-given right you can be a nazi you can be an

00:09:27.540 anti-semitic you can be a pro-semitic you can be whatever you want in the united states that's

00:09:30.520 protected speech you might get banned on some platforms for it but you have the right to say

00:09:33.480 those things that being said there'll be people that will walk around and say things like oh no

00:09:37.180 i'm not anti-semitic i just think that there's a reason why jews have been kicked out of every 1.00

00:09:39.880 single country they've ever been a part of and i think jews are also controlling the united states 1.00

00:09:42.620 of america and i think that jews in the united states of america also have more allegiance to

00:09:45.200 israel and i think the jews were actually behind 9-11 and i think special warnings and i think and it's like

00:09:48.940 at some point whatever you call anti-zionist basically has a one-to-one overlap with whatever anti-semitism is at least

00:09:53.960 own it right i'll say i'm islamophobic when i fight against muslims online if i was gonna fight 0.99

00:09:57.580 against jews online over their dumb religious shit i'd say i'm anti-jewish or whatever the fuck 0.99

00:10:00.740 but don't sit here and like pretend that like oh no like it's just me doing my talking points and 1.00

00:10:04.320 i had no idea that you get an auctioneer 0.96

00:10:06.420 he's like some sort of like i don't think any fucking christian has ever said that until they 0.99

00:10:12.380 until it became popular to use it as a way to bully uh fucking jewish people i grew up catholic for 0.99

00:10:16.600 i was a catholic for 12 years i remember like hearing all the screaming about christ is king 0.97

00:10:20.600 um yeah and as far as the university the university protesters you have a right on the university to

00:10:26.240 protest but it is a university you have to do it in an appropriate mean manner and place or time

00:10:30.240 manner and place meaning you're not allowed to set up encampments for weeks and weeks or days and

00:10:34.100 days you're not allowed to block students from going to class you're not allowed to disrupt events

00:10:37.200 that are happening on campus that's part of the rules of being on university grounds and if you start

00:10:41.500 to violate those rules then yeah eventually they're going to kick you out you know people can say

00:10:44.740 that it's anti-semitic this time what was it anti-african-american when blm people were getting

00:10:48.180 arrested or was it anti-conservatives when trump people were being arrested on january 6th or was

00:10:52.520 it anti-millennials when uh the um it's like rap god oh the 2008 anti-wall street movement was

00:10:58.280 happening um occupy yeah occupy wall street like no i mean like people are when situations get violent

00:11:03.620 they get drawn out eventually the cops are going to come in and shut it down that just happens with

00:11:06.460 every single protest it's going to continue to happen with every single protest it doesn't mean

00:11:08.980 that there's some unique violation of your freedom of speech okay um so then i'll turn it to you

00:11:13.740 he didn't address any of his claims yeah i've just given many examples within the zionists who

00:11:18.480 do the exact same thing but in a much worse manner and disproportionately it's a lot worse

00:11:22.400 now in terms of what he said this is the propaganda that zios do right they want to make it so that 0.58

00:11:27.820 anti-zionism is the same as anti-judaism which is not right judaism is not the same as zionism

00:11:33.300 jewish people in israel that are oppressed but yes the zionist control and remember there's much more

00:11:38.200 christian zionists than there is jewish zionists of the united states is prevalent and these people want

00:11:43.140 to end it and make it the same because they want to make it look like that you're being anti-semitic

00:11:46.620 so that you basically have a scenario where you put in prison or they take away you saw the very

00:11:51.800 first harvard letter where there was an uproar just because the students were calling out the

00:11:55.420 treatment of the palestinians and they said they're not going to get a job they're not going to get a

00:11:58.500 kriya so this is what happens yeah if somebody says that the jews could chuck them out of a hundred

00:12:04.040 this is a position that i don't agree with but it is a position that people should be allowed to have

00:12:09.260 they should be able to have that position you shouldn't be able to stifle free speech

00:12:12.060 and this is what's happened by the zionist structure because the difference is he can be

00:12:15.740 islamophobic and he's got no problem he's on youtube he's on everywhere but he can't do the 0.88

00:12:19.260 same thing to zionists hence why we moved to rumble when we were talking about this i know we all know

00:12:24.660 it let's go great point and you i was i've been banned of buy me a coffee we've been banned of many

00:12:29.340 platforms for this reason right because this is what they do and it's not just platforms it's law

00:12:33.960 denying the holocaust is law you look in this how is the congress that they're going to pass

00:12:37.660 that's going to be law so it's a legal aspect christians of course they said christ is king this is

00:12:41.400 their position they're like well this is ridiculous to say that this isn't part of

00:12:43.740 also uh christ is king that basically the jews killed jesus they're allowed to have that position 0.60

00:12:48.420 because this is an ideological position you shouldn't have no issue with it whatsoever

00:12:52.260 in terms of the university protest the reason the bandit has nothing to do with certain regulations

00:12:56.260 that were not met is because the zionists were being exposed everyone was talking about in the

00:13:00.200 media there was going to be a huge amount of movement and they had to stop it this is very

00:13:04.020 different to the blm what did they do with blm they allowed it to cascade they allowed it to grow

00:13:08.880 they were burning cars they allowed it to grow for so long and yet these university students

00:13:11.980 sitting peacefully they basically banned them all right uh turn it to destiny then um

00:13:16.740 and then if you guys want to do one more round we can uh like a fire round and then we can go to

00:13:21.180 the next question this is heavy man holy

00:13:22.980 content as well because it's moving so fast yeah yeah you guys are you guys are really battle

00:13:30.600 hold on we got over here kendrick lamar we got a drink over here hey this is probably one of the

00:13:35.520 best well

00:13:36.040 one of the best debates

00:13:38.280 or kendrick lamar you know obviously we're you know like i told y'all before i'm just moderating it

00:13:42.500 man making it fair for both parties so they can get their points because i think it's really

00:13:45.760 important to be able to have have these ideas and um hash them out together so um destiny it's on you

00:13:50.900 i'll give you uh your two minutes and then um then we'll go to suleyman and if you guys

00:13:55.360 it was my idea to do two minutes by the way just saying yeah i mean i would be opposed to um

00:14:00.880 making anti-zionism or anti-semitism illegal in the united states i don't think anybody's making

00:14:04.420 it illegal in the united states i haven't seen that i don't think the bell in congress is making it

00:14:07.440 illegal i think it is providing it the same protections that you have for you know he knows

00:14:11.320 their sexuality or their religion if you're like an employer or if you like own a house you're

00:14:15.020 trying to rent a house to people i don't think they're making anti-zionism illegal um there's this

00:14:19.160 talking point again that like you can attack islam but you can't attack um judaism the reality is just 0.96

00:14:24.200 like nobody really cares that much about the religion of judaism you've got most jews in 0.99

00:14:29.120 israel don't care about the religion of judaism uh you know and the people that are going to care 0.97

00:14:32.900 the most are going to be those in the fucking west bank that are trying to set up their uh their 0.98

00:14:36.340 little settlements and everything they're not going to be online fighting with you on twitter 0.99

00:14:38.700 again i can go online i go on twitter i can shit on jews in like 15 different ways and nobody gives 0.99

00:14:42.440 a fuck because more of the crazy that's not true religion uh nobody actually cares about like most jewish 1.00

00:14:46.620 people won't defend it whereas if i go online and i start talking about ii sheriff i start like 1.00

00:14:49.960 putting pictures of muhammad online i've got like 15 million death threats in my inbox um but yeah i

00:14:54.320 mean to really reiterate like yeah you should be able to go to deny the holocaust if you want to deny 0.91

00:14:57.900 uh you know zionists their right to a country if you want to say all those things in the united states 0.98

00:15:01.600 it should be allowed to be done and i believe it is still allowed to be done and there's no way to

00:15:05.000 stop that unless the first amendment uh is somehow revoked in the united states uh if you're upset because

00:15:09.400 people are banning you from certain platforms for it then i would say that yeah i mean that's

00:15:12.620 that is what platforms are doing but i mean everybody that's not a freedom of speech violation

00:15:17.260 and i don't even know if i'm fully bought into this idea that zionists get more protection than

00:15:20.720 anything else it feels like most of the media coverage has been insanely pro-palestinian if you

00:15:24.240 look at twitch for instance the platform that i'm banned from hassan piker is literally the face

00:15:28.260 of of fucking twitch politics and hamas piker is literally an avowed supporter of terrorist attacks 0.94

00:15:33.400 against israel of the destruction of the israeli state and will support you know the houthis and the 0.98

00:15:37.100 hamas and the palestinians in any way size shape or form and i'm sure when you go on youtube you find a ton

00:15:41.320 of pro-palestinian support as well so this idea that you don't have support for palestinians

00:15:45.240 that's allowed to flourish on these social media platforms isn't even true in and of itself

00:15:48.240 all right that's uh so if you guys want we can have a fire on here where you guys can

00:15:52.960 is destiny cooking yeah you uh yeah no no yeah because i had the last word last time so he should

00:16:00.260 get the last word this time and then we can ask if we want to do a fire round he should get his

00:16:02.980 yeah i don't know for this last one i thought i thought he was no no he was supposed to get the

00:16:06.120 last word on this one no i think it was me it was actually i can't remember yeah yeah it is him

00:16:09.480 because because no because destiny went first the first time because anti-semitism i think i

00:16:15.120 talked first about why anti-semitism isn't is it free speech okay yeah so if you go first that

00:16:19.400 means who's the better yeah yeah so yeah destiny was supposed to get the last word on this one

00:16:24.280 you're right um which you just did just now but if you guys want because i saw that you

00:16:28.060 had wanted to address something you can do a fire round while i put two minutes on the clock

00:16:31.420 i'll be feeling just like another old guy yeah go for it yeah yeah i was gonna i was gonna give

00:16:36.620 three minutes for both y'all to go ahead and like actually be able to both speak oh discuss it

00:16:40.500 right yeah you can actually openly discuss i'll put three minutes on the clock where you guys

00:16:43.980 fire around for this you guys can both when the freshest round we're in agreement right we don't

00:16:47.040 want censorship right i think we're both in agreement both it doesn't matter if it's judaism

00:16:50.160 anti-semitism islamophobia it doesn't matter what it is like i believe you can if you speak about 0.95

00:16:53.960 things you can do it like even your point about aisha i wanted to debate you on it because i knew

00:16:57.140 your punch were weak yeah so i would much rather debate you than do drama so i completely agree with you

00:17:01.080 in that regard but people do care about judaism this is a misnomer like when when you basically attack

00:17:05.280 judaism online you get basically hate speech even on twitter we had hate speech violations for certain

00:17:09.680 jewish practices or for example jewish rabbis having protections in israel after committing for

00:17:14.180 example rape or pedophilia or wherever it may be so we got warnings on that people even when we looked 0.96

00:17:18.040 at like for example jewish rabbis have been in charge of porno i believe there was basically a huge

00:17:22.940 amount of claims of anti-semitism so that does happen on that so in terms of the reason you don't 0.99

00:17:27.820 shit on jews is because you know that it's somewhere you don't want to go down right you know it's 0.99

00:17:32.140 because we know the risks we take when we attack zionism i mean to be clear i shit on jews if 1.00

00:17:36.940 they're there to shit on but like most of what you're bringing up like they didn't like jews 0.99

00:17:39.680 control all of porn like these aren't even attacks on the jewish i said porn hub okay yeah whatever 0.99

00:17:44.320 these are on judaism this is just like because it's a rabbi doing it right it is it is how because

00:17:50.480 if it's a clergyman a clergyman represents the religion so if imam did it it doesn't mean it would

00:17:55.140 have a bit people would think that you're basically attacking an imam and you're trying to attack

00:17:58.040 muslims or islam in in a way so it would be like that so when people attack like priests for like

00:18:02.640 meddling with like little boys i don't think you're necessarily attacking the religion you don't think

00:18:05.500 you're trying they're trying to basically expose the religion i know i disagree i don't think so i

00:18:10.160 think too and in terms of hassan paika i don't know what i don't know who like i know who he is but i

00:18:13.340 don't know his positions but what i can say is there is a significant amount of content that is not

00:18:17.680 allowed in those platforms and in twitter twitter is a prime example because i'm when you look at the

00:18:21.900 level of the boosting that happens on pro-palestinian accounts compared to zionist account is

00:18:25.320 significant the only difference is the whole world is with palestine you think the de-boosting 0.91

00:18:28.840 on twitter is happening for palestinians i can give you my example so i get much more engagement

00:18:33.700 than zio accounts i'm like the biggest political engaged account but if you look at my views they're

00:18:38.260 much more lower so it means the algorithm is somehow not pushing me even though my engagement

00:18:41.540 isn't that literally all open source now ever since elon musk took over did you literally see what

00:18:45.040 gets boosted i can't see the reasoning for this two minutes you can't see the reasoning for this

00:18:48.480 okay i don't think any of these are being de-boosted i think there's plenty of pro-palestinian

00:18:51.720 accounts no no you're not understanding you're not understanding i'm not saying that they're

00:18:54.140 completely shadow banned i'm saying that let's take my example right so the likes retweets and

00:18:58.640 shares are minor much more than any other account on twitter and politics and yet the views are

00:19:02.100 lower and a zio account gets hardly any engagement but the views are significant so why is the accounts

00:19:06.220 getting the view when mine's not as an example i don't mind just an example of many pro-palestinian

00:19:09.100 accounts and the reason is because there is some and by the way twitter is still the best one it's

00:19:12.660 just i'm i know how twitter works so i can give that as an example so there is a de-boosted just

00:19:16.560 to balance it out because the whole world is with palestine i think the more likely thing is that

00:19:20.300 some things are being botted and some things aren't the idea that there are people who work at

00:19:23.940 twitter that are trying to sneak code in to just de-boost certain things there are so many

00:19:27.160 engineers that would be looking at this i think that people that are private investors in twitter

00:19:30.420 would be like why are you doing this like i don't know if this is even good for our wallets to be

00:19:33.500 uh getting rid of organically you know uh viewer generating content like yeah i don't i don't

00:19:38.340 everybody complains that they're getting de-boosted when they're doing good enough

00:19:41.700 it's been shown it's time okay that's uh that's time that's three minutes um you know shout out to

00:19:48.080 you guys for being so goddamn civil um okay so the next boring fight okay and uh they're getting

00:19:56.000 spicer as we go here here we go should zionist be able to hold government office my question 0.97

00:20:01.000 i'll go i'll go first easy one this is a layup bro layup question he might i think that'd be fair

00:20:12.540 on him as long as you're okay with it okay i'm doing it for his benefit because then he knows my

00:20:17.500 argument because i'm probably gonna make the okay so if you go first that means he's gonna end again

00:20:20.720 you okay with that yeah yeah i'm okay go ahead okay take it away i'll turn the clock on so um

00:20:25.520 look i don't think so zionists so if the zionist if the zionist is somebody who just wants a state

00:20:31.560 of israel of course they should hold office right what the problem is is what i believe that someone

00:20:35.880 shouldn't hold office in the united states is when they have jew um a citizenship so they basically 1.00

00:20:41.640 don't have loyal you mean israeli citizenship right no no he said dual citizenship he thought he said

00:20:46.460 jew i'm so sorry i heard it too though i heard it too

00:20:53.300 chat did you hear that

00:20:55.920 that you understand so you're good don't worry

00:20:59.200 make it say jew citizenship please so um oh jew citizenship right 0.97

00:21:04.560 because then you basically got loyalty to two different countries now you could be israeli you

00:21:08.880 could be like for example they talk they make the same arguments about ilhan omar as well and

00:21:12.440 because your loyalty should be the united states and you shouldn't have someone for example if

00:21:15.140 someone's got loyalty to russia and the united states there's going to be problems with that

00:21:17.960 loyalty but then in addition to that and i make a further argument with that and that is this that

00:21:22.300 somebody who holds the opportunity for right to return also should not hold office in the united

00:21:27.800 states and the united kingdom and the reason for that is because someone can be hold the opportunity

00:21:33.620 to have right to return they can destroy the united states they can destroy united kingdom they can 0.95

00:21:37.640 basically use it for the interest of israel and then they can go back to israel and based on their

00:21:43.360 right to return now your retort of that will be that's anti-semitic because now you're basically

00:21:46.620 saying no jewish person can hold office and my retort of that is if you stop the israeli 0.94

00:21:52.140 um a supremacist ideology of right to return then you wouldn't have that problem and so therefore

00:21:57.640 my argument is very simple and it is if you have dual citizenship you shouldn't hold office if you 1.00

00:22:02.440 have right to return you shouldn't hold office and that way you know that the american interests are

00:22:07.040 being put first and the interests of britain are being put first and the same problems you have in the

00:22:11.000 united states we have the exact same problems in britain so any argument i'm making that you can

00:22:14.760 apply to my country as well okay um i will you the only 150 okay what are you doing that's the

00:22:21.160 stance all right go ahead this um i think it's in the i think it's in the u.s constitution that you

00:22:25.460 cannot uh be a citizen of another country uh so i'm okay with that in terms of the presidency

00:22:30.220 um in terms of like barring every single federal office from anybody having dual citizenship

00:22:35.060 um i don't have like super strong feelings on it but i feel a little bit weird about it i think

00:22:39.960 that's probably okay if dual citizens are you know like members of congress maybe maybe not but i'm

00:22:44.200 like 51 49 i wouldn't care that much on it um in terms of saying you can't be a citizen if you have

00:22:49.340 like a right of return well i don't think that really works one we don't really have the right

00:22:52.760 to dictate in other countries not a citizen to hold office to hold office you know yeah but i'm saying

00:22:56.780 if you giving the right of return automatically disbars you from holding office um it would be really

00:23:00.760 strange because then like effectively any country could just could just shut down whoever is

00:23:05.280 president let's see we find out that like biden is it's part irish or something and all of a sudden

00:23:09.800 the republic of ireland is like actually we're going to give right of return to every irish person like

00:23:13.000 does biden have to renounce his irishness or something or couldn't you mess with any single

00:23:17.080 uh member in office if a right of return is granted it just seems like a really big cluster

00:23:21.260 but that doesn't exist um that's not a thing i don't i don't have a strong position for like if

00:23:25.560 people have dual citizenship you know maybe it's questionable like do we really want somebody voting on

00:23:29.860 whether or not we should go to war with the country if they hold a citizenship in that country 1.00

00:23:32.860 i think you can make like strong arguments on either side of that like should somebody have

00:23:36.260 to revoke their citizenship just for running for office would this go down to like the governor

00:23:40.660 and the state assembly level maybe just for uh you know federal office we would say this but

00:23:44.600 yeah i don't have strong opinions on this one or another but i don't agree with like the if

00:23:48.300 they've got right of return every single jew is disbarred from holding office because then any 1.00

00:23:51.120 country that offers a right of return means that like anybody from these types of countries

00:23:54.340 wouldn't be allowed to hold office okay uh your response to that so um in terms of congress

00:23:59.680 the problem with your argument is that you're saying that the u.s president can't have dual

00:24:03.320 citizenship but then people who are congress people who are part of the senators can essentially who

00:24:08.740 decide policy that is what decide if you're going to go to war in certain aspects in terms of policy

00:24:14.300 procedure whatever it may be the things that can cause the destruction of the united states if they

00:24:17.620 put certain policies that internally can cause the destruction of the entire fabric of western society

00:24:22.720 for example certain people would make the argument as an example certain liberal ideas

00:24:26.440 then you would basically be able to destroy a foreign nation based on those ideas hence why 0.96

00:24:31.760 i agree with the constitution in terms of the president and i think it should be casted cascaded

00:24:35.260 down in terms of the right to return yet look there will be problems with it for sure right because

00:24:40.320 it's not a clean position the problem is there's only one nation that has the supremacist

00:24:44.400 ideology which is israel where you have a right to return 0.98

00:24:47.260 merely because of your inherent race and so for that reason you have a problem where someone can

00:24:54.280 go to the united states and destroy the nation and then use the right to return to go back and this 0.97

00:24:59.860 is the problem we have and that's why to safeguard the country to safeguard the country from foreign 1.00

00:25:04.540 intervention which is something that americans seem to be caring about they talk about russian

00:25:07.460 intervention and chinese intervention but for some reason they don't care about israeli intervention

00:25:11.740 a country who literally is forcing the united states to go to war is forcing the united states to

00:25:15.940 basically have less security have more financial issues and so on and so forth then i think that it when

00:25:21.560 it when it becomes that major you need to know that whoever is making decisions they're making

00:25:26.080 those decisions so you should hammer this point home more interests and for the betterment of the

00:25:30.140 united no dual citizens running for office i agree with you at the beginning there's a reason america 1.00

00:25:33.240 is the best country in the world and it should be left to do so not without foreign intervention

00:25:37.140 okay a little bit of time on the clock with that one um we should have hammered that home way more

00:25:41.880 i don't have strong feelings on most of us that the strongest one just on the right of return

00:25:45.520 i don't know every country's immigration policy but i'm sure there are other countries that allow you

00:25:50.240 the ability to immigrate if you've got some uh ancestry or if you've got some ethnic tie to

00:25:54.200 some particular thing i'm sure that's the case i don't i just don't have every policy on hand i

00:25:57.480 know that like in the united states if you've got parents that are u.s citizens like you've got a

00:26:00.480 right to go to the united states if you're born on a u.s base anywhere you get a u.s passport

00:26:03.860 um but i don't know every single country's immigration policy i wish i did nationality is

00:26:08.200 different to risk though um yeah sure but again like i'm i'm um i mean like what is the nationality

00:26:14.880 you have of both your parents are american right we don't have like a race that we can have

00:26:18.380 for like to call like an american race um so yeah i don't know also like i mean yeah no i don't know

00:26:24.080 i just i feel like other countries here probably probably have other types of of ability to return

00:26:28.080 depending upon your ethnic background or religious background i just i don't know every country but

00:26:31.060 yeah um all right so we'll move on to the uh are there any are there any countries that have the

00:26:36.020 right to return besides israel this is a big one here and you guys obviously are definitely going

00:26:39.360 to disagree with on i'm glad we're on rumble on this one ready was october 7th a military operation

00:26:46.380 or a terrorist attack again the question is or the topic is who asked that one who got this

00:26:52.540 question a military operation this was a terrorist attack it was that australian guy take it to i

00:26:58.160 think you started last time so destiny you could start on this one and and we will do a fire run at 0.79

00:27:02.700 the end of this one um fresh is cooking huh you take it w fresh military operation seeks to accomplish

00:27:08.480 military goals if you're doing an invasion and you're a military there's probably some military

00:27:12.560 goal why does fresh look more like fresh air they had no military goal they were trying to accomplish

00:27:16.140 the goal was to incite terror in the citizens that's why thousands of rockets were launched

00:27:19.920 at the beginning of the invasion that's why when they cut through and they started going into israel 0.71

00:27:23.160 proper um they hit up kibbutzes some of which had nothing to do with the military they went to

00:27:26.740 that nova festival and they killed raped and took hostages from tons of people there these people

00:27:30.940 didn't present any sort of actual uh militaristic threat or or have any kind of militaristic gain the

00:27:36.640 entire idea was to take you know some 200 plus hostages back every single one of these being a

00:27:40.940 violation by the way of the law of armed conflict and no that's not the same as palestinians that

00:27:45.240 are facing detention in israeli prisons uh even though that argument is often made so no every

00:27:49.460 single part of the operation on october 7th was just designed to instill and incite fear in the

00:27:53.960 israeli population that's gonna be so cute bro military operation or goal that i can't be mad at him

00:27:58.320 i'm never mad at this guy and it led to as we've seen now the reprisal from israel in response to

00:28:03.340 uh this with a war it's like a cute atheist like another minute to speak added out teddy bear

00:28:08.360 it was a military operation right you don't need to be a military to conduct

00:28:13.540 they're not allowed to have a military this is like a teddy bear you know

00:28:17.060 to do a military operation the kibbutz did hold military personnel hence why that was their target

00:28:25.400 the nova festival was never meant to be there it was expect extended by a day without anybody knowing

00:28:31.080 it they were meant to go to the kibbutz get the israeli hostages military personnel and swap them for

00:28:36.500 the palestinian hostages that are kept in israeli prisons and they are the same because in reality

00:28:42.280 many of them have not been held trial they're basically and they're basically being abused

00:28:46.320 the only difference is when the state of israel does it it's called uh prisoners and when uh when

00:28:51.080 basically palestinian does it or hamas does it is called hostages that's the only difference it's

00:28:54.720 just a difference in language look raped that is the biggest fake news ever like this mass rape 0.94

00:28:59.860 propaganda has been debunked there's no evidence for this whatsoever i would like destiny to provide

00:29:04.200 evidence of there have been an actual real evidence of rape because this is just like fake news that's

00:29:09.620 been debunked just like the 40 beheaded babies that we debunked just like any baby being killed by

00:29:14.020 israel we debunked so all of this has been debunked they didn't plan to take 200 hostages

00:29:19.500 it's actually the opposite they did not expect the nova festival to be there they didn't expect it

00:29:24.340 and they didn't expect the israelis to react in the manner that they reacted in terms of killing

00:29:29.220 many of their own hostages and so many of their own people and so for that reason reason they end

00:29:34.780 up taking many more hostages than they expected and that's why even israeli literature says that

00:29:40.440 they've been trying to get rid of some of them hostages because they never expected to have such

00:29:43.340 a multitude of hostages and remember all of our arguments are based on israeli news really we

00:29:49.000 the arguments because this is even by their own news they're making these arguments one thing i

00:29:53.660 appreciate what destiny said is that they wanted to kill they wanted to go after the israelis the state of

00:29:57.840 israel and he is very much accurate in that because he didn't say jews because in reality it was an

00:30:01.940 attack on the state as opposed to a people because the hamas charter is very clear that they have no

00:30:06.840 issues with jewish people okay uh turn to you um and again the topic is was october what is why is

00:30:14.160 fresh here why is fresh even here yeah so the idea that the nova festival was moved today this is a

00:30:19.360 multi-day festival i mean you could look at all the flyers beforehand it's not like this was just one

00:30:23.040 day and also the idea that it was moved and nobody knew if that was the case then how did the party

00:30:26.540 people know to go to the festival i know that doesn't make any sense like and also when you're

00:30:30.500 paragliding in and you see a bunch of people partying i mean like what are you thinking like

00:30:33.500 are you radioing back to base like well i'm it i don't know what to do there's a bunch of party 1.00

00:30:36.240 goes here oh fuck i guess we just have to fucking kill them all i didn't know they'd be there like 1.00

00:30:38.960 take as many hostages as possible like mow down as many motherfuckers you see like we have videos 1.00

00:30:42.720 for we say it's all comes from the idf that's not true these dumb motherfuckers were recording videos 1.00

00:30:46.020 of themselves you have videos of people walking up and down porta potties shooting in with their 1.00

00:30:49.200 assault rifle but maybe they think that there are secret ideas soldiers hiding in those i don't know maybe they

00:30:52.680 operate from porta potties in hamas so much they think the idf does it as well

00:30:55.380 um the idea the 40 beheaded baby thing wasn't true israel never said it this was a misreport by

00:31:00.000 the media where that original came came from it originated from twitter it did not come from any

00:31:05.780 israeli reported source again everybody can go look for it you can go find it that original source is

00:31:09.560 not an israeli source um we can say the mass rape propaganda but i mean we've got tons of

00:31:14.520 eyewitness reports of hearing uh rapes happening and witnessing rapes happening now we've had people

00:31:18.860 that were hostages that have come out who've said that they were sexually assaulted and they know that

00:31:22.060 other hostages were being sexually assaulted and we've got a lot of charred bodies and a lot of 0.98

00:31:25.960 dead people whose underwear were torn off bodies where there was blood coming out of the vagina 1.00

00:31:29.980 um bodies where the uh genitalia were shot over and over again but the problem is is that when 0.99

00:31:34.460 you've got an invading you know terrorist organization that is raping you they also tend 0.98

00:31:37.780 to kill you as well it's pretty hard to get away from that it's really funny when people say like oh 0.85

00:31:41.000 like where are all of the uh we're all of the rape survivors well believe it or not when an invading 0.97

00:31:44.820 military force is raping you they're probably going to kill you too and that's why over a hundred of the 0.84

00:31:47.920 bodies that were found were charred beyond all recognition but still kind of hard to explain 0.96

00:31:51.680 why the legs were open and why the clothes were torn off the bottom halves of these bodies um what

00:31:56.280 yeah we can say that arguments are made all from the israeli news but i mean whose fault is that i

00:31:59.980 mean hamas isn't open about anything you know when we go through and we try to audit israel on some of

00:32:03.780 these you know uh massacres in the past or some of the bad actions they've done we can only do that

00:32:07.580 because israel is a democracy and we have the ability to actually audit them that's why israel hosts

00:32:11.360 uh its own criticism in the form of betzalem or in the form of haretz what is the hamas equivalent to

00:32:15.880 betzalem what is the hamas equivalent to haretz they don't host any of their own criticism they

00:32:19.580 throw people on buildings and they kill people who think that they're in opposition to the

00:32:21.820 government there two minutes okay um all right i'll turn it over to okay he better he better

00:32:27.680 come on misunderstood what i said i didn't say it was moved i said it was extended and i provided

00:32:32.440 significant evidence on my let's go that it was extended it was meant to be one days and one day and

00:32:36.340 then it ended up it being increased to two uh and then three days so that's what i said so no they

00:32:41.720 weren't expected not because it was moved but because it was extended in terms of 40 beheaded babies

00:32:45.860 i've done a thread on this what you're saying is fake news it was reported by a journalist it was

00:32:49.640 also reported by i24 news which is uh run by a very good friend of netanyahu that's where some of

00:32:56.420 this fake news about 40 beheaded babies were done was propagated and by the way there was zero babies

00:33:01.880 killed the only people killing babies is the zionist terrorist regime so when you mention terrorists i 0.62

00:33:06.740 think you're talking about the zionist regime when you said that the hostages were assaulted there's no

00:33:11.820 evidence of that the many of the eyewitness testimonies have been exposed for example

00:33:15.680 risk uh riskohen he literally said oh i heard it and then later on he changed his testimony to say

00:33:20.360 oh i saw it there was another guy who said that he saw 29 people being raped and then again it got

00:33:25.540 exposed as being a lie so many of these eyewitness testimonies are by settlers or basically israeli

00:33:30.100 liars who want to perpetuate the lies look they had gopro cameras they want you to believe that they

00:33:35.600 had gopro cameras and they malfunctioned then nobody saw anything so whenever these atrocities occurred 0.98

00:33:40.160 for some reason the gopro cameras stopped working it's the most ridiculous argument ever but they

00:33:44.620 want you to believe that in terms of like people being charred people were charred we saw it it got

00:33:49.900 charred by israelis when they were using apache helicopters as an example 200 palestinians were

00:33:54.780 killed or they as they say hamas people or the resistance were killed and they basically counted

00:33:59.160 them as israeli numbers and then later they found out no they weren't israeli they were palestinian

00:34:02.480 so that's how they were killed they were killed their own people as well as they killed them 0.58

00:34:05.540 so and this is the problem the israelis killed many of their own people because they lost their

00:34:10.320 minds when they came there this is the problem that they don't want to speak about in terms so

00:34:14.560 that's the thing about the time though and in terms of israelis you can't trust anything they lie and

00:34:18.140 lie and lie they claimed that they didn't kill her and then later on this got exposed that they did

00:34:23.100 actually kill her and it's only when it got exposed so yeah you can't trust the israeli news they lie 0.62

00:34:27.180 until they get exposed the real what i'm my argument about is israel was that if we actually had

00:34:31.620 independent sources the situation would be much worse so even with israeli sources

00:34:34.900 the lies are being exposed okay rebuttal to that um yeah again i've never heard anything about the

00:34:40.420 festival being extended by one day it seems like there's a lot of people that were able to stay

00:34:43.400 there even though the festival was extended but let's assume that all of that was true even if it

00:34:46.960 was extended by one day why kill everybody at the festival there's no reason for that if you show up

00:34:50.520 and you come upon a festival and you're like oh it's not supposed to be here why would you why

00:34:53.860 would you start killing them we've seen the bodies um you know i i asked you for the source on that

00:34:57.620 i understand we're not gonna sources like right here in the middle of uh of a debate but that that um that

00:35:01.900 40 beheaded baby thing did not come from an israeli source that's why you said a journalist

00:35:05.420 and then you said i24 news um like the i don't believe that there was an israeli source for any

00:35:10.400 of that story a lot of it got spread around on twitter but none of this actually came from israel

00:35:14.400 none of this came from the government none of it came from the idf it was memes that started to get

00:35:17.440 uh snowball on twitter and then started to get spread around and people talked about it but there

00:35:20.180 was no actual initial report from the idf or from any idea person person or spokesman about there

00:35:24.540 being 40 beheaded babies it just didn't happen it was a meme that spread out of control on on twitter

00:35:27.500 um you're talking about ross cohen i don't know if you're starting bloom and fall in the gray zone

00:35:30.740 for this but i looked at the uh testimony that this guy gave on day one on day one when he was

00:35:35.100 talking to a journalist outside of an ambulance he didn't mention anything about seeing any rapes

00:35:38.700 but that's because it was a three minute clip that went viral on twitter that got cut from a larger

00:35:42.240 conversation if you find the original conversation that is on facebook he literally starts talking

00:35:45.880 about rates right after that three minute cut they just didn't include it in the original twitter

00:35:48.900 video because it was cut down for a time or something i'm not entirely sure um when we say that we

00:35:52.940 can't trust anything that the idf says i mean we we can run with that but why would i trust

00:35:57.480 anything hamas says hamas literally put out a flyer saying that uh we don't kill civilians we

00:36:02.500 would never do this despite the fact that dead hamas soldiers are being found with documents on

00:36:05.720 them giving them explicit instructions on how to ask for people to take their clothes off how to ask

00:36:09.400 for people to to come with them or how to take people hostage and that we've got videos of them

00:36:12.840 taking people hostages we've got videos of people walking up and down cars seeing charred bodies and

00:36:17.580 seeing dead people in cars this was way before idf choppers showed up and started firing you don't think

00:36:21.340 that any of the israeli citizens that were walking up and down the highways finding all of the dead bodies

00:36:25.000 you don't think that any of them would have noticed there were actually helicopters bringing

00:36:27.800 down fire on any of the cars none of this actually happened there would have been people reporting it

00:36:31.300 there would have been people posting videos of it okay uh turn it to the show oh that's crazy you

00:36:35.060 said there was no patchy helicopters we literally got the evidence of it we've got israeli literal news

00:36:40.100 parrots saying that basically basically in kibbutz beri they start shooting shot and re-fire and killed

00:36:45.420 182 people i believe 118 i can't remember the exact number but it was in the hundreds

00:36:49.600 of people yasmin porat says that they basically when they were shooting and killing they killed

00:36:54.100 their own people we were eyewitness testimony from the israeli side saying this never mind the

00:36:59.100 hamas side in terms of what you said are we ready for lord jen what you're not understanding is

00:37:02.620 they weren't expecting it so then the plan wasn't there what they didn't expect was for the israelis 0.74

00:37:08.600 to lose their minds attacking them and killing them and basically applying the hannibal directive in a 0.97

00:37:14.300 mass scale hannibal directive is they kill their own people so that they don't become hostages 0.99

00:37:18.000 that's what happened so it wasn't abdul let's kill it it was epstein let's not kill these let's 0.98

00:37:24.860 let's just shoot everyone don't let any hostages out because we're gonna have to negotiate that's

00:37:28.560 actually what happened uh well in terms of risk coin i said to you and it is his testimony changed

00:37:33.960 and you mentioned in terms of the the hostages held held by hamas bro as soon as the hostages came

00:37:41.440 out all of them were literally saying they treat us really well they didn't abuse us they didn't

00:37:44.820 sexually assaulted us and then what happened was the israelis were like what the hell israelis these 0.90

00:37:49.640 guys are making hamas look good like they're treating them like angels they're treating them 0.97

00:37:52.960 so well they're giving them food as they're eating food themselves and then what they did was when they

00:37:56.880 start releasing hostages they kept a blockade and they didn't let them speak to the media for weeks

00:38:01.660 and months to put the propaganda into their minds to control them to manipulate them and make them lie 0.85

00:38:06.820 that's actually what happened you talked about hamas having documents this is the most ridiculous

00:38:10.900 argument ever like no one believes it's all fake like oh we were left with a passport we were left

00:38:14.060 some documents hamas are very clear the charter is very clear they have no issue with uh with in

00:38:20.340 terms of jews christians or muslims their charter is literally saying that they want freedom for the

00:38:24.860 palestinians so in reality the hamas and their actions are very clear this was a military

00:38:29.640 occupation uh military attack to save their own people okay uh and i think um destiny you went first

00:38:38.480 on this one right maybe yeah yeah i think you did so soon i got the last word if you guys are good

00:38:45.020 then i got one more question sure yeah real quick uh yeah we could do a lightning round here then that

00:38:49.440 way you guys can go ahead and have the open dialogue with each other i saw that you guys had some

00:38:52.720 things you had you had one too yeah all right cook fresh hostages that came out yeah the first

00:38:57.940 hundred hostages that came out didn't say anything about mistreatment of course because they only let

00:39:01.880 people out that had family members that were still being held hostage you're not going to come out and be 0.83

00:39:05.140 like yeah they're treated like shit there i think they're right but everybody and then all of a sudden 0.84

00:39:07.300 that's not true a lot of the hostages came out yes because they only allowed women and children 0.97

00:39:11.640 or families to come out some of the hostages were but some of them weren't and this was a fake news

00:39:14.680 but someone this was what zionist made they made the argument that when that woman came out and

00:39:18.360 literally said we've been treated really well they're like oh husband's still there and we

00:39:20.900 actually checked it it was fake news so this is like the fake you don't think there's any family

00:39:23.940 members that are still being held from any of the i just said some of them even if it's not family

00:39:26.940 members the fact that you come out and start talking about the hostages when they release you

00:39:29.920 wouldn't it make sense to tell you well now because i don't even know if there are any hostages left

00:39:33.920 no because israel tried to do a ceasefire where they wanted to trade 40 hostages and for some

00:39:38.480 reason israel's coming out of 33 because it sounds like hamas doesn't even have 40 hostages to trade

00:39:42.100 well well the thing is israel has killed a lot of their own hostages that's happened for sure but in 0.54

00:39:45.840 reality what's happened is the reason they need to negotiate is because with the disagreement why i

00:39:50.040 know ceasefires agreed is because they hamas want a permanent ceasefire because the last ceasefire 0.97

00:39:53.940 what happened was when they got their own palestinian hostages back even within them seven days 0.99

00:39:58.020 the zionists took more hostages so this is the problem so it's illogical from hamas's perspective

00:40:02.980 hamas has been asking for a 10 year ceasefire okay not a permanent ceasefire because i'm because

00:40:06.940 they want to qualify with 10 years because they still want to go to war with israel in the future 0.67

00:40:09.160 but regardless they don't have the right to ask for it that's not right they want a permanent

00:40:11.800 ceasefire you can't ask you can't capture hostages and then make demands off of having hostages that's

00:40:16.240 not how military conflict works and then when you bring up no but that's happened in the past because

00:40:19.700 israelis have hostages and previously what's happened is they've traded one palestinian hostage for

00:40:24.380 a thousand israel israeli israeli and a half minutes wait hold on i'm sorry wasn't that the exact

00:40:28.240 opposite wasn't that the start of 2008 where they had one israeli hostage and they traded him for a

00:40:32.260 thousand palestinians that's what oh yeah okay yeah um also you bring up like the uh attack

00:40:35.920 helicopters you bring up the attack helicopters and yes because war crimes pay off yes um that

00:40:40.820 apache helicopters were shooting israelis were killing the old people yeah that happened in

00:40:44.220 places where there were holdouts from hamas and palestinian islamic jihad that were still fighting

00:40:48.720 you bring up kibbutz bari that's not right that's not right absolutely right there is no why were the

00:40:52.360 200 chart of palestinians and 100 chart israelis because they weren't defensive they did the

00:40:56.240 okay all right well we can watch the rest of this later huh i've heard a lot of these soccer

00:41:02.340 points they just have an oar off but who won chat they're good matchup i can't lie

00:41:12.960 with you this later huh

00:41:26.760 um

00:41:31.060 so

SNEAKO - May 05, 2024

SNEAKO Reacts To Destiny & Sulaiman Ahmed's Debate

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