SNEAKO - April 19, 2025


Training with UFC Champion Merab Dvalishvili


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27 minutes

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Word Count

5,089

Sentence Count

630

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

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Ilya Oliveira is the new UFC Middleweight champion, and we're here to talk about it. We also talk about the current state of the UFC and what it means for the future of the division. And of course, we have a special guest on the show this week.

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00:00:00.000 I know you start saying, oh, I don't want to fight small guys, but what's going on?
00:00:06.520 I think it's crazy.
00:00:11.180 So why are they doing the fight?
00:00:13.360 They don't need a fight today, in my opinion.
00:00:15.040 Islam's already walked through the way.
00:00:16.760 Yeah, he beat Armand, he beat KG.
00:00:20.880 The whole division?
00:00:22.020 Yeah, clearly it's the only fight that makes sense.
00:00:24.420 I think they're both phenomenal fighters.
00:00:25.920 It's the fight that I want.
00:00:26.620 Yeah, it's going to be an easy fight for Ilya, but it's the fight, too.
00:00:30.340 It's so stupid to, let's say, I mean, Ilya's my friend, I love him, but it's going to be stupid to he fights Oliveira if he lost against Oliveira.
00:00:39.060 It's not just your friend, he's earned the shot.
00:00:40.640 I don't know the guy, but that's clearly the guy who didn't get the shot.
00:00:42.740 Yeah, you're saying like, all right, all right, this is the champion.
00:00:47.080 Do you think it's going to be easier or harder than the first fight?
00:00:49.980 It's going to be harder for me.
00:00:51.360 I mean, if it's easier, oh, it's good, but I have no preparation for the hard fight.
00:00:56.620 And this way, you have to train from hard, I mean, you make it look easy, but if I'm kidding, oh, like sometimes it's harder for me to train hard because I know I beat this guy.
00:01:10.100 You have to psych yourself.
00:01:11.220 Exactly, I have to be still hungry.
00:01:12.980 I have to remember it.
00:01:14.620 First time I was challenger and I was game and I was hungry and I was disciplined and I was, yeah, but like you said, like he takes one punch.
00:01:23.580 If I make any mistake, if I should go, I'm not going to punch.
00:01:27.320 If that's great, yeah.
00:01:28.440 He has some choke.
00:01:29.380 His jitsu is underage, so I think his jitsu is pretty good.
00:01:31.740 Do you think our goal can be my side?
00:01:33.580 No.
00:01:34.580 I think so, but my side is...
00:01:39.580 You want to be right now.
00:01:42.580 Thank you.
00:01:43.180 I think so, but my side is going to be right now.
00:01:55.180 I'm going to make this.
00:01:57.240 It's lonely at the top, lot of people are watching and want me to flop.
00:02:00.800 I'm telling the kids if I can do it, then anyone can, car came from none.
00:02:04.040 One stop and search away from the blocks.
00:02:05.980 In this life I don't feel fair, only man that can make me afraid is good.
00:02:09.180 Negative press on the shade room, anything good it don't make the blocks.
00:02:12.200 It's a quick little five and a half hour flight, but when you go west coast you time travel,
00:02:20.200 so it's going to be about the same time on that ride.
00:02:24.200 I was just 16, witnessing that at that age was wrong.
00:02:26.940 Detach myself from every emotion.
00:02:28.920 Yes.
00:02:29.560 Yes.
00:02:30.340 Yes.
00:02:31.380 Yes.
00:02:33.160 I'm jumping the barriers if the inspector get on the train.
00:02:36.120 Back in Las Vegas.
00:02:37.840 Las Vegas is a very dystopian feeling to it.
00:02:41.180 One you can only describe if you're here.
00:02:43.180 I think the slots in the airport is describing what I'm talking about.
00:02:47.760 It was 24?
00:02:49.080 Yeah.
00:02:49.260 All right, thanks so much.
00:02:51.260 Close call.
00:02:52.300 Can't forget these.
00:02:53.220 Now the whip that I'm in is an impatient one.
00:02:55.220 Put my foot on the gas when the light goes amber.
00:02:57.260 Try to touch me on guns, we'll shoot.
00:02:58.520 We don't do kung fu and fight like band-up.
00:03:00.600 My guy's a convicted criminal, so he got to hide from cameras.
00:03:03.620 All of my bitches pretty as hell.
00:03:05.060 I could start up a beauty pageant.
00:03:06.440 How'd I end up with a weight and clap for my started my day and end?
00:03:08.900 The first time I went to a casino, I went to Atlantic City, and I showed up in a suit because
00:03:13.720 I thought everyone shows up well-dressed, like the mafia era with suits, and you come
00:03:19.720 here and it's like, oh, they're wearing Cookie Monster pajamas and flip-flops.
00:03:23.540 Don't gamble.
00:03:24.460 What's that?
00:03:24.800 Are you Sneeko?
00:03:25.520 Hey, what's going on?
00:03:26.120 Holy shit, bro.
00:03:27.160 Nice to meet you.
00:03:27.840 What are you doing here?
00:03:28.680 Are you going to WrestleMania?
00:03:29.640 I'm wrestling tonight.
00:03:30.680 Oh, you are?
00:03:31.040 Yeah, the 4th Road Show, Westside Gun and all.
00:03:33.400 We have a show tonight.
00:03:34.340 Oh.
00:03:34.700 Club 59, it's here.
00:03:35.480 Am I supposed to know who you are?
00:03:37.160 I don't work here, so.
00:03:38.880 Why do people know who you are?
00:03:40.180 Am I supposed to know who you are?
00:03:41.780 Maybe.
00:03:42.600 What's your name?
00:03:43.780 Autumn.
00:03:44.500 Autumn, nice to meet you.
00:03:46.320 Why does he know you?
00:03:47.980 I think he thinks I'm someone famous.
00:03:49.940 Are you famous?
00:03:52.160 What do you ask me is famous?
00:03:54.280 Are you recording?
00:03:56.160 Oh, no.
00:03:56.800 It's not on right now.
00:03:57.760 Okay, yeah.
00:03:58.480 No footage.
00:03:59.260 Yeah, yeah.
00:04:01.040 I didn't ask for your name.
00:04:02.380 Joe, by the way.
00:04:03.100 Joe, okay.
00:04:04.140 Oh, yeah, don't drop that.
00:04:07.320 Yeah.
00:04:08.920 That's a good one.
00:04:10.740 Appreciate it, man.
00:04:11.560 Of course, man.
00:04:12.360 I'll see you tonight.
00:04:13.000 I think almost certainly that girl was a prostitute because when she gave me her number, she put
00:04:26.600 in a Google Voice number.
00:04:28.220 Who uses Google Voice?
00:04:31.040 I'm meeting up with Jake Shields in 50 minutes.
00:04:44.120 Been here for 10.
00:04:44.820 No one's taking my order.
00:04:45.780 I hate Las Vegas.
00:04:46.780 I just don't like Las Vegas, man.
00:04:48.600 I always want to leave.
00:04:49.380 Doc and Light did sell it in two before I got an invite to my Rubens all-white party, 4th
00:04:53.840 of July.
00:04:54.280 I was sat in a trap with a pack all night.
00:04:55.900 Cocaine fragrance weren't dressed in white.
00:04:57.720 15 minutes away from the shop, but I said I'll get there in less than five.
00:05:00.840 It gives me the ick when those come around.
00:05:02.480 I'm trying too hard to impress the guys.
00:05:04.020 How much are you up right now?
00:05:10.400 I'm going $200 off five bucks.
00:05:12.260 Okay, $200 off five bucks.
00:05:14.060 Okay.
00:05:14.680 Now's the time to cash out.
00:05:16.420 That's what I'm supposed to do.
00:05:17.600 That's what I'm supposed to do.
00:05:18.440 But you're not going to.
00:05:20.300 Because I'll lay you right here.
00:05:21.780 I'm going to leave.
00:05:22.420 I'm telling you.
00:05:23.540 We're like $5.
00:05:25.220 All right.
00:05:25.760 We'll see.
00:05:26.260 All right.
00:05:26.620 All right.
00:05:26.980 We'll see.
00:05:27.600 All right.
00:05:28.560 He's going to lose all that money.
00:05:30.060 It's away from the shop.
00:05:30.960 I said I'll get there in less than five.
00:05:32.640 It gives me the ick when those come around and try too hard to impress the guys.
00:05:36.020 The marketing from online casinos is so genius that they turn one of the most pathetic
00:05:40.940 environments into a social club that celebrities hang out at.
00:05:45.380 Yo, what are you doing here?
00:05:46.500 Hey, what's going on, man?
00:05:47.380 What's up, man?
00:05:47.900 I'm just recording a video.
00:05:49.120 Oh, shit.
00:05:49.580 I'm sorry.
00:05:50.040 That's okay.
00:05:50.600 I just know who you are.
00:05:51.420 Oh, nice to meet you.
00:05:51.980 Are you here for Mania Week?
00:05:53.260 Who?
00:05:53.500 Mania?
00:05:54.040 Are you here for Mania Week?
00:05:54.440 Yeah, yeah.
00:05:54.840 I'll be there tonight.
00:05:56.060 You guys coming?
00:05:57.220 Yeah, you're coming.
00:05:58.080 All right.
00:05:58.360 I'm an interviewer, so.
00:05:59.380 Oh, you're the interviewer?
00:06:00.160 Yeah.
00:06:00.740 Japanese, Spanish, everything.
00:06:02.820 Okay.
00:06:03.260 Well, you speak Japanese?
00:06:05.020 Let me hear that.
00:06:06.260 How do you say quit gambling in Japanese?
00:06:09.240 That was good.
00:06:10.880 That was good.
00:06:11.920 That was good.
00:06:12.560 That was good.
00:06:13.160 No, this is like a weird householder.
00:06:16.680 Well, you've got to be careful in places like this, brother.
00:06:22.880 Okay.
00:06:23.500 Alhamdulillah.
00:06:24.140 Alhamdulillah.
00:06:24.580 I met Islam Makhachev at a casino two years ago, and he told me, brother, you have to
00:06:29.880 be careful in places like this.
00:06:31.560 I'm recording a video right now about how dangerous it is to gamble, because online casinos, they
00:06:36.340 made it really cool for people like Drake and Conor McGregor to be gambling all the time.
00:06:41.120 But in reality, you're going to be 55, smoking cigarettes, overweight, sitting here,
00:06:44.740 spinning slots, and losing your pension.
00:06:46.080 Imagine, so it's better to just do it.
00:06:49.000 But you know what?
00:06:49.840 When you go to those people, you take the L, they're losers.
00:06:53.400 I mean, that's 99%.
00:06:54.900 The winners are the people who own the casino.
00:06:56.920 Yeah, exactly.
00:06:58.120 But, so, where are you from?
00:07:01.340 Actually, Venezuela.
00:07:02.600 Oh, from Venezuela?
00:07:03.360 Yeah.
00:07:04.460 Marico.
00:07:06.400 I know that means...
00:07:07.060 Are you gay?
00:07:07.880 No, that means brother.
00:07:08.860 That means brother is the same thing.
00:07:10.040 No.
00:07:10.860 Oye, marico.
00:07:11.640 Yeah, yeah.
00:07:11.940 It means gay and brother.
00:07:13.100 I know, conyo, but that's not Venezuelan, is it?
00:07:15.840 It's very Venezuelan.
00:07:16.680 Oh, it is?
00:07:17.340 Okay, okay.
00:07:18.040 Nice to meet you guys.
00:07:18.920 You guys gambling?
00:07:19.920 Okay, I'm literally going to gamble my college tuition away, bro.
00:07:22.900 I'm not even trolling.
00:07:24.040 Wait, your whole college tuition?
00:07:25.440 Yeah, everything.
00:07:26.060 So how much is that?
00:07:27.540 I mean, like, whatever they loan me.
00:07:29.960 Oh, so you're gambling your student loans tonight?
00:07:31.820 Yeah, everything.
00:07:32.800 Everything?
00:07:33.320 Yeah, everything.
00:07:33.900 On what?
00:07:34.300 Blackjack?
00:07:35.060 No, I play back rat.
00:07:36.140 Back rat craps.
00:07:36.940 Throw the dice.
00:07:38.020 Okay, so...
00:07:38.600 Win a billion dollars.
00:07:39.640 Why are you doing that?
00:07:40.980 It's fun, bro.
00:07:42.140 It's a good rush for the heart.
00:07:43.400 Sometimes you come up fat.
00:07:44.460 Well, what if you lose?
00:07:46.240 Then I don't go to college, bro.
00:07:47.760 How old are you?
00:07:48.600 I'm 25.
00:07:49.500 Do you endorse this as...
00:07:50.900 No, hell no.
00:07:51.580 This guy's not a lot of gambler.
00:07:52.720 He's not...
00:07:53.060 How old are you?
00:07:53.780 He's good.
00:07:54.680 I'm 19.
00:07:55.360 Wait, 25, you're still in college.
00:07:57.300 Exactly.
00:07:57.760 What do you think?
00:07:58.520 He's degenerate, bro.
00:07:59.940 Yeah, yeah.
00:08:01.060 Okay, well...
00:08:02.300 Yeah?
00:08:02.880 Gamble responsibly.
00:08:03.900 Yeah, hopefully it goes good.
00:08:04.960 Hopefully, yeah.
00:08:05.820 If I come up 100K, come through.
00:08:08.560 I'll be here, I'll be here.
00:08:09.280 I'll buy your table or something.
00:08:10.320 All right, cool.
00:08:11.060 Okay.
00:08:11.240 Take care, bro.
00:08:12.220 Nice to meet you guys.
00:08:14.080 What the fuck?
00:08:16.220 Can I see your shirt?
00:08:18.200 Oh, God.
00:08:18.480 Oh, thank you.
00:08:20.220 This is funny here.
00:08:21.520 Deshaun.
00:08:21.960 Yeah, the do-rags.
00:08:22.800 No, it's Deshaun.
00:08:23.980 Yeah, the do-rags.
00:08:24.740 Oh, there's a do-rag right here.
00:08:26.460 Hey, thanks for bringing Joe Schilling here.
00:08:27.780 What did you think of that short training session, like 40 minutes?
00:08:30.140 A lot of work, though.
00:08:31.160 Yeah, it was just nonstop.
00:08:32.320 That's all you need a lot of time.
00:08:33.280 There's no breaks.
00:08:33.960 Hour in and out.
00:08:34.440 Yeah, no breaks.
00:08:35.160 Just go, go.
00:08:35.820 Guys who come to the gym is three or four hours and get like-
00:08:38.160 And dick around.
00:08:39.040 Yeah.
00:08:39.360 It's just like, go, go.
00:08:40.200 You don't need these long training sessions.
00:08:42.100 I mean, sometimes your work's more technical, but for boxing, it's simple.
00:08:45.280 You want to come in, burn out.
00:08:46.680 If you keep going, you're not going to put in as good work.
00:08:49.480 I'm surprised that you weren't comfortable enough with your boxing ability to train one-on-one
00:08:54.200 without Joe Schilling.
00:08:54.940 I mean, Joe Schilling was great, but I'm surprised you were at the highest level of fighting in
00:08:58.120 the world.
00:08:58.780 Yeah.
00:08:59.000 And you're still like- American jiu-jitsu wrestling is your strong suit.
00:09:01.980 Yeah, I'm an expert in jiu-jitsu.
00:09:03.640 If someone has to speak as a training jiu-jitsu, I think I'm one of the best in the world and
00:09:06.500 coaches.
00:09:07.220 Out of all the fighters, I would praise myself, but I have to be realistic.
00:09:10.480 I'm a good boxer, but I'm not like that world elite level Joe, and you're my friend, so
00:09:14.000 I'm not going to try to like- I don't have an ego where I need to be like, oh, I'm going
00:09:16.320 to be the best boxing.
00:09:17.120 I know realistically, Joe's a better boxing coach than me, so it makes sense to bring him
00:09:20.620 over.
00:09:20.880 Yeah, what's the bro code, Jake?
00:09:22.360 You just never talk shit about a friend or an ex-friend.
00:09:24.380 I think it's completely unacceptable, even if you're not friends with anyone.
00:09:27.280 People are calling out saying, oh, we used to party, this guy did this and that.
00:09:30.400 It's just, it's not cool to do.
00:09:31.740 When I see guys doing that, I don't want to hang out with that person.
00:09:33.620 No, you shouldn't not be, especially if they're gathering evidence, if they're collecting
00:09:36.540 Epstein blackmail.
00:09:37.600 That's insane.
00:09:38.460 I had a friend of 20 years having to be of a certain group who was like doing blackmail,
00:09:43.960 trying to get sponsors after me, had old pictures.
00:09:46.700 I'm just like, wow.
00:09:48.640 It was shocking to me because I'm just such a good, loyal friend.
00:09:51.660 I would never stab someone in the back.
00:09:53.060 So when someone does it, it's just, I was mad for Dave, but it was just kind of hurtful.
00:09:56.520 Even if I had like an issue with a friend and I had a bunch of stuff going out, parties,
00:10:00.780 chicks, I would never do that.
00:10:02.000 It's just a, it's bro code.
00:10:03.600 If you don't want to do that to someone else's friend, you're like, that guy's not someone
00:10:06.020 you could ever trust.
00:10:06.940 It transcends manners.
00:10:08.040 It's like a different, it's an unspoken rule.
00:10:09.880 What's more important than clout is actually relationships because clout comes and goes.
00:10:14.040 But if you have a long-term relationship with somebody who has good opportunities, then
00:10:17.560 you're right back where you were left off.
00:10:19.360 You nailed it.
00:10:20.300 Cause that's, I have all long-term relationships because everyone I've been around fighting for years
00:10:24.420 knows I keep my word, all this stuff.
00:10:26.100 So whenever I want to do any business or same thing, starting a podcast, I'm getting just
00:10:29.320 such a great guest because I have all these relationships.
00:10:31.540 The Georgian belt.
00:10:33.240 Hey, the champ is here.
00:10:35.020 How are you?
00:10:35.460 Thank you.
00:10:35.840 What up, man?
00:10:57.440 Hey, what's going on?
00:11:00.480 Oh my God.
00:11:01.180 Do you see Marab over there?
00:11:05.440 What the hell?
00:11:06.400 That's Marab.
00:11:06.920 That's the champ right there.
00:11:09.100 No.
00:11:09.820 Yeah, it's a crazy day.
00:11:11.300 Hey, we're looking at me.
00:11:12.300 Yeah, sure.
00:11:13.240 Oh my God.
00:11:13.960 I hate it so much.
00:11:30.920 You guys are like, oh, your next fight's going to be super easy.
00:11:33.420 And it's like, no, I can't beat the fight as well.
00:11:35.060 Exactly.
00:11:36.000 If you look any fight easy, you're going to get knocked down.
00:11:40.280 You're going to lose this fight.
00:11:41.940 You have to take it serious.
00:11:43.280 Any fight.
00:11:44.900 Then if you play chess, you have to be game.
00:11:48.040 You have to dominate.
00:11:49.080 It only takes you one fight.
00:11:50.600 I don't know, if I do the small gloves, the chokes,
00:11:53.060 but you might have a mentally bad day.
00:11:54.840 There's just so many factors.
00:11:56.900 You guys are like, oh, Shano Mali's easy.
00:11:58.780 Are you insane?
00:11:59.640 Shano Mali's like world champion.
00:12:01.440 Phenomenal.
00:12:02.360 It takes one mistake.
00:12:03.660 Oh, his knees and stuff?
00:12:05.300 Yeah, exactly.
00:12:06.240 That's why I like, I know how game I was first fight.
00:12:09.460 And I did everything good.
00:12:12.160 And he still got me with the kick.
00:12:14.360 Oh, he did that nice kick.
00:12:15.540 Yeah.
00:12:16.940 And then I'm like, because first round,
00:12:21.200 I was taking down and controlling.
00:12:23.640 And sometimes I let him get up.
00:12:25.920 But then when he got me, I'm like, why I let him go?
00:12:29.800 I should try my best.
00:12:31.160 Because I'm like, hook the leg and beat him up.
00:12:33.000 Yeah, I should, I let him get up.
00:12:34.600 But now I know he's going to make lots of adjustments.
00:12:38.460 But yeah, like you said,
00:12:39.340 people tell me, oh, yeah, it's easy, bro.
00:12:41.460 It's not easy.
00:12:42.060 I'm picking you to win that fight.
00:12:43.640 That's a tough fight.
00:12:44.600 Oh, man.
00:12:44.960 He's a phenomenal fighter.
00:12:46.100 You know, I'm joking.
00:12:46.840 Especially, he's kind of no loss.
00:12:49.100 And then now.
00:12:49.460 He's going to be hungry, yeah?
00:12:50.100 Yeah.
00:12:50.400 That was your last fight.
00:12:51.920 Have you fought since then or no?
00:12:53.360 No.
00:12:53.620 Yeah, he's going to be hungry.
00:12:55.020 He really wants that belt.
00:12:56.120 Do you think it's going to be easier or harder
00:12:57.640 than the first fight?
00:12:58.940 It's going to be harder for me.
00:13:00.420 I mean, if it's easier, it's good.
00:13:02.620 But I have to prepare for the hard fight.
00:13:06.080 And this way, you have to train from hard.
00:13:10.540 You make it look easy.
00:13:11.700 But if I'm thinking, oh, sometimes it's hard for me
00:13:16.380 to train hard because I know I beat this guy.
00:13:19.100 You have to psych yourself.
00:13:20.180 Exactly.
00:13:20.800 I have to be still hungry.
00:13:22.000 I have to remember.
00:13:23.620 First time I was a challenger and I was game
00:13:25.880 and I was hungry and I was disciplined and I was, yeah,
00:13:30.240 but like you said, like, he takes one punch.
00:13:32.660 If I make any mistakes, if I should go,
00:13:34.980 I'm not going to throw one punch.
00:13:37.440 He has some chokes.
00:13:38.420 He has a good back taking.
00:13:39.700 His jiu-jitsu is great, too.
00:13:40.960 I think his jiu-jitsu is pretty good.
00:13:42.000 Yeah.
00:13:42.600 I think it's like a little, a little bit harder
00:13:44.180 when you go down to one of the grades
00:13:46.020 and you have to give a few more big wins.
00:13:48.020 And you're like, this is one of the, you know,
00:13:49.980 one of the grades of all time.
00:13:51.020 So, like, you know, you have to keep that hunger,
00:13:52.660 and I'll keep my way up, down there with, like, the greatest.
00:13:55.820 Who do you think was more skilled,
00:13:57.060 Segudo or Sean O'Malley?
00:14:02.160 Segudo surprised me, actually,
00:14:04.580 how he was like,
00:14:06.720 he came really close and caught me, you know?
00:14:09.760 He was good, but,
00:14:12.300 and then I figured it out,
00:14:14.240 after the first song,
00:14:15.080 I figured out this style
00:14:16.320 and I was doing my right style.
00:14:19.480 I was,
00:14:20.720 I don't know what I'm doing.
00:14:22.500 But, you know, it's two different,
00:14:25.000 two different styles.
00:14:27.120 What's O'Malley style?
00:14:28.880 Irish, McGregor, kind of?
00:14:30.980 No, O'Malley's different.
00:14:32.520 You know, he's still in the wrong range.
00:14:35.480 He's, boom,
00:14:36.880 bop, bop,
00:14:37.540 or just, bah,
00:14:38.700 if you go too close,
00:14:40.120 he's always ready for like this.
00:14:42.100 This time,
00:14:42.860 I think now he's gonna just stop.
00:14:48.420 O'Malley's really good at keeping range.
00:14:50.320 I was talking to you, like, earlier about distance.
00:14:52.440 He has a great awareness of the space,
00:14:54.220 so that's a guy,
00:14:54.820 you can't take him down,
00:14:55.700 but you're just like,
00:14:56.360 he's so good at controlling the distance,
00:14:58.700 but you just, like, blitzkrieg.
00:15:00.220 Yeah, me, I,
00:15:01.440 I know what I was doing.
00:15:03.340 I was making,
00:15:05.240 like, I don't know, like,
00:15:06.340 it was hard to take him down.
00:15:09.060 I know I was game.
00:15:10.700 I know how I was supposed to shoot.
00:15:14.520 I know where I was able to take him down,
00:15:17.120 and I did exactly.
00:15:18.380 The third round,
00:15:19.560 I take him down,
00:15:21.280 and then the referee told me,
00:15:23.120 you gotta do something,
00:15:24.140 and I let him go.
00:15:25.580 And after I was trying,
00:15:27.220 I shoot a couple times,
00:15:28.300 he was defending.
00:15:29.480 You know what I'm saying?
00:15:30.020 He's good.
00:15:30.980 But,
00:15:31.360 because when I was really trying,
00:15:33.520 it was very hard.
00:15:34.260 Oh, he's just,
00:15:35.620 the distance is so good.
00:15:36.560 People are like,
00:15:36.840 oh, he's taking him down.
00:15:37.580 Are you out of your mind?
00:15:38.300 Have you watched this guy fight?
00:15:39.180 Like, here's your good friend,
00:15:40.600 and tonight he was so good,
00:15:41.760 you know?
00:15:42.260 Yeah, I was just making,
00:15:44.580 like, a big mistake,
00:15:46.060 and I, you know,
00:15:46.760 like, I was on point.
00:15:47.860 No, he'll catch a small mistake.
00:15:49.420 That's why he was a world champion,
00:15:50.640 too.
00:15:51.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:15:52.520 You have to, you know,
00:15:53.200 go out there and fight perfect
00:15:53.960 when you're fighting elite guys.
00:15:55.000 But even you,
00:15:55.380 you're an amateur.
00:15:56.320 You gotta still rise to the occasion.
00:15:57.980 What's your plan?
00:15:59.240 You're boxing much.
00:16:00.200 What's your game plan?
00:16:01.160 I plan,
00:16:02.040 one, two,
00:16:03.100 stick to my range.
00:16:04.580 One, two,
00:16:05.020 hold on.
00:16:06.000 One, two,
00:16:06.900 move.
00:16:07.860 No.
00:16:08.160 You're not gonna go right.
00:16:09.840 No, no, no, no.
00:16:11.320 He's gonna do it.
00:16:12.480 That's what I'm about.
00:16:13.280 That's what I think he's gonna do.
00:16:14.420 Okay, then maybe
00:16:14.860 if you come like this,
00:16:16.000 right here,
00:16:16.780 move.
00:16:18.480 Take him time first.
00:16:20.040 You know,
00:16:20.280 usually the amateur fighters,
00:16:21.800 if they don't have experience,
00:16:22.900 they're gonna get tired.
00:16:23.820 Yes,
00:16:24.120 no,
00:16:24.380 no.
00:16:24.680 Maybe,
00:16:26.460 okay,
00:16:26.840 you know,
00:16:27.580 boxing,
00:16:28.100 you can,
00:16:28.320 you can,
00:16:28.960 you can,
00:16:28.980 you can,
00:16:29.160 you can,
00:16:29.560 you can,
00:16:30.160 you know,
00:16:30.560 you know,
00:16:31.460 make you tired.
00:16:32.160 What advice would you give to someone
00:16:58.520 taking that first fight?
00:16:59.940 What?
00:17:00.320 What advice would you give to someone
00:17:01.800 taking that first fight?
00:17:03.640 Just go do your best.
00:17:05.400 You know,
00:17:05.640 don't,
00:17:05.920 don't,
00:17:06.340 don't think over too much.
00:17:10.200 Like,
00:17:10.360 don't stress too much.
00:17:12.040 Just go and do your best.
00:17:13.560 Whatever he was practicing in the gym.
00:17:16.220 What advice,
00:17:17.340 just spine in the gym.
00:17:18.900 Do more spine,
00:17:20.100 you know,
00:17:20.440 light spine,
00:17:21.120 touch spine.
00:17:21.740 And this way,
00:17:23.040 you release to it.
00:17:24.000 Like,
00:17:24.180 see everything we have.
00:17:25.940 And then,
00:17:27.160 and then when you go fight,
00:17:29.360 just whatever I use,
00:17:31.040 you know,
00:17:31.300 in the spot.
00:17:32.820 That's incredible.
00:17:34.260 Okay,
00:17:34.420 try to think more like it's training.
00:17:35.840 Because sometimes you get too worked up,
00:17:37.200 you gotta learn hard,
00:17:38.160 because you gotta learn for a lot.
00:17:39.240 Especially,
00:17:39.700 you gotta have a little pain,
00:17:40.580 you gotta be watching,
00:17:41.360 and everybody don't fight.
00:17:42.100 It's a ton of pressure.
00:17:43.660 Yeah,
00:17:43.840 yeah,
00:17:44.020 so sometimes when you fight,
00:17:45.640 it's a ton of pressure,
00:17:46.440 you know,
00:17:46.780 and,
00:17:47.220 yeah,
00:17:47.480 not,
00:17:48.000 not sometimes.
00:17:49.420 Yeah,
00:17:49.700 every time.
00:17:50.500 I don't understand these guys,
00:17:51.360 they say they don't get scared.
00:17:52.220 It's like,
00:17:52.400 how the fuck do you not get scared?
00:17:53.580 And it's just the most terrifying thing to do.
00:17:55.820 I don't know if scared is the right word,
00:17:57.080 but there's like some nerve before you fight.
00:17:58.740 Yeah,
00:17:58.940 it's crazy,
00:18:00.000 but every time it's different.
00:18:01.540 Sometimes,
00:18:02.960 I'm crazy.
00:18:04.420 I used to excite them,
00:18:05.980 like,
00:18:06.120 almost every time there.
00:18:07.920 Now,
00:18:08.680 because of now,
00:18:09.860 I know what I'm gonna do.
00:18:11.800 I'm like,
00:18:12.200 okay,
00:18:12.680 all I'm thinking is,
00:18:14.440 like,
00:18:14.720 I'm stepping.
00:18:15.500 You still want to overthink it,
00:18:16.460 right?
00:18:16.680 I try to overthink it.
00:18:18.080 And,
00:18:18.100 you don't have to get too much stress.
00:18:19.700 You go through it.
00:18:20.120 Oh,
00:18:20.300 you walk out there,
00:18:20.960 so I fought this year.
00:18:22.180 How was that?
00:18:22.760 That was like,
00:18:23.120 I was like,
00:18:23.140 I was like,
00:18:23.640 I was like,
00:18:25.820 I was very relaxed.
00:18:27.800 And I like,
00:18:28.600 it was good life.
00:18:30.000 Yeah,
00:18:30.280 I was not that much fortunate.
00:18:32.120 And the people was a little bit far away,
00:18:34.280 and they took good,
00:18:35.280 because not too many people around.
00:18:36.840 Oh,
00:18:37.040 if it was less like pressure,
00:18:38.240 you're driving it.
00:18:39.560 But I cannot really hear.
00:18:41.620 And they was very quiet,
00:18:42.700 and I like it.
00:18:43.320 I don't know.
00:18:43.580 Oh,
00:18:43.640 yeah.
00:18:44.300 Yeah,
00:18:44.520 you fight in Japan,
00:18:45.320 it was just silence in the crowd.
00:18:46.840 It's like,
00:18:47.160 too quiet almost.
00:18:47.860 It's like,
00:18:48.200 we were hearing.
00:18:48.820 Yeah,
00:18:51.360 so,
00:18:51.700 one,
00:18:53.160 two,
00:18:53.340 you said one,
00:18:53.880 two?
00:18:54.300 One,
00:18:54.560 two,
00:18:54.760 yeah.
00:18:55.040 So,
00:18:55.720 let's say,
00:18:56.040 I'm going to tell you,
00:18:56.780 what are you going to do?
00:18:58.040 Yeah.
00:18:59.040 I'm going to tell you.
00:19:00.540 What?
00:19:02.040 Yeah.
00:19:02.680 Yeah.
00:19:04.040 I'm going to tell you.
00:19:06.040 I'm going to tell you.
00:19:11.040 I'm going to tell you.
00:19:12.040 I'm going to tell you.
00:19:42.620 I'm going to tell you.
00:19:43.360 I'm going to tell you.
00:19:56.100 I'm going to tell you.
00:19:57.960 Yeah,
00:19:58.320 I think the distance is the biggest thing you've got to work on, but it's better.
00:20:01.500 He's solid.
00:20:02.620 He's solid.
00:20:03.860 He's solid.
00:20:04.960 I feel like it's all about this.
00:20:06.780 It's like one of the most crucial things I taught you to throw time is that distance,
00:20:10.680 He's a streamer, they don't know him.
00:20:14.680 Is he pretty big or no?
00:20:16.680 I think no.
00:20:18.680 No, he's not very much.
00:20:20.680 I just want my first fight, it's fun.
00:20:22.680 I'm getting old, I'm 26.
00:20:24.680 Every man can fight it.
00:20:26.680 It really changes, you make sure you're a better person.
00:20:30.680 How old were you when you started? 21?
00:20:36.680 Yeah, they say it's just me.
00:20:38.680 How old are you now?
00:20:39.680 34.
00:20:41.680 That's right in your prime.
00:20:43.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:20:45.680 I'm like, I'm saying like I said,
00:20:47.680 I'm the same guy, same hungry, same motivation,
00:20:49.680 but it's just getting hard and hard.
00:20:53.680 All these texts, people I know, important stuff, sponsors.
00:20:59.680 It's hard to say no to opportunities.
00:21:03.680 You're a nice guy, I suppose he had everything,
00:21:05.680 but you get overwhelming sometimes.
00:21:07.680 It's hard to say no to people.
00:21:09.680 Yeah, I want to say yes to everything,
00:21:11.680 but I have to be.
00:21:13.680 You have to focus on your fight too.
00:21:15.680 That's why I really appreciate you that we do this.
00:21:17.680 You really have to be selfish and focus on your fight
00:21:19.680 when you're winning both titles.
00:21:21.680 Especially the closer to the fight against you.
00:21:23.680 That's why I came forward early to come over with you.
00:21:25.680 A couple weeks for a fight,
00:21:27.680 I just don't always tell them to fuck off.
00:21:29.680 It's easy anyways because of UFC and countdowns.
00:21:33.680 They're giving you so much media.
00:21:35.680 Yeah, like when you're at camp, the media is insane.
00:21:37.680 I remember when I bought these, it wasn't the champ,
00:21:39.680 the media obligation they gave you was insane.
00:21:41.680 That takes a lot of time.
00:21:43.680 It's hard to keep talking.
00:21:45.680 How much do you weigh right now?
00:21:47.680 How much do you weigh right now?
00:21:49.680 Good job.
00:21:51.680 20 pounds is different if you're heavy weight versus 35 pounds.
00:21:55.680 Yeah.
00:21:57.680 This is the hardest thing.
00:21:59.680 What weight is the hardest thing?
00:22:01.680 Yeah.
00:22:03.680 That's 10 pounds.
00:22:05.680 That's 10 pounds.
00:22:07.680 You're still going to be humble.
00:22:09.680 Your body type that you don't blow a lot of extra water,
00:22:12.680 so it's going to be harder for you to some people.
00:22:14.680 Yeah.
00:22:15.680 It does.
00:22:16.680 It's a pretty good time.
00:22:17.680 I mean...
00:22:18.680 It's very beautiful, but...
00:22:19.680 It's still going to...
00:22:20.680 For us, 10 pounds is time.
00:22:21.680 But, I mean, it's one day work.
00:22:23.680 For you, you're going to still cry.
00:22:25.680 It's going to be humble.
00:22:26.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:22:27.680 I'm not going to cry.
00:22:28.680 If it counts to us, it's like,
00:22:29.680 oh, I'll drop that in a couple hours.
00:22:30.680 You're 155 right now.
00:22:31.680 You're lightweight.
00:22:32.680 Would you ever go up in weight class?
00:22:36.680 Maybe.
00:22:37.680 Yeah, if super fights make sense, of course.
00:22:40.680 I would like to challenge,
00:22:41.680 but now I want to clean out my division,
00:22:43.680 and, yeah, just improve it, man.
00:22:47.680 It's my division.
00:22:48.680 I want to focus on one thing.
00:22:49.680 One thing at a time.
00:22:50.680 Yeah, yeah.
00:22:51.680 You got to look at one fight at a time.
00:22:52.680 I would love to see you fight for the BMF belt.
00:22:54.680 Yeah, I'm good.
00:22:57.680 You got the real...
00:22:59.680 You got to do the big challenge.
00:23:01.680 I think now is your time,
00:23:02.680 and your popularity really just skyrocketed
00:23:04.680 the last couple of fights,
00:23:05.680 so now it's time to make some real money
00:23:07.680 and stay focused.
00:23:08.680 Usually you have to stay.
00:23:09.680 If you lose a little bit of focus,
00:23:10.680 it's fucking...
00:23:11.680 It's tough.
00:23:12.680 Every fight is tough.
00:23:13.680 Yeah, man, man.
00:23:15.680 Yeah, like...
00:23:17.680 And like we're saying,
00:23:18.680 even your group,
00:23:19.680 that is the guy,
00:23:20.680 even Omali,
00:23:21.680 he's not going to let you make any mistakes.
00:23:23.680 It only takes one punch.
00:23:28.680 It's actually dangerous.
00:23:30.680 You have the tools to beat him for sure,
00:23:32.680 but he's a dangerous guy.
00:23:33.680 Some guys aren't dangerous,
00:23:34.680 and Omali is always dangerous.
00:23:35.680 Yeah.
00:23:37.680 But because people are like...
00:23:39.680 I'm very master-making now,
00:23:41.680 because if they look satisfied,
00:23:43.680 and they look easy,
00:23:45.680 they'll be...
00:23:46.680 I mean, you clearly didn't want to fight,
00:23:48.680 but it wasn't easy.
00:23:49.680 Yeah, exactly.
00:23:50.680 I think I thought it was a good fight.
00:23:51.680 Yeah.
00:23:52.680 Because obviously you want to fight.
00:23:53.680 It's very exciting.
00:23:54.680 Yeah, people don't know.
00:23:55.680 Because people,
00:23:56.680 like,
00:23:57.680 not traditional like you,
00:23:58.680 they cannot see...
00:24:00.680 They can't see the danger
00:24:01.680 with his envy,
00:24:02.680 his kicks, I guess.
00:24:03.680 No, really.
00:24:08.680 What do you think about López?
00:24:10.680 Well, López...
00:24:12.680 I mean,
00:24:13.680 López,
00:24:14.680 I mean,
00:24:15.680 López is a really good fighter,
00:24:16.680 but López
00:24:18.680 give him very,
00:24:19.680 very good fight.
00:24:20.680 López
00:24:21.680 López,
00:24:22.680 but...
00:24:23.680 I was,
00:24:24.680 like,
00:24:25.680 I was not...
00:24:26.680 I mean,
00:24:27.680 I was not accepting
00:24:28.680 this much close,
00:24:29.680 you know?
00:24:30.680 Because the fight was...
00:24:31.680 3-2 maybe.
00:24:32.680 Yeah,
00:24:33.680 that's a very close fight.
00:24:35.680 Well,
00:24:36.680 win for sure,
00:24:37.680 but...
00:24:38.680 close.
00:24:39.680 Yeah,
00:24:40.680 it was a good fight.
00:24:41.680 López
00:24:42.680 it's a good fight.
00:24:43.680 So,
00:24:44.680 we're gonna have to be a hit.
00:24:45.680 Both here have to be a hit.
00:24:46.680 We're gonna have to be a hit.
00:24:47.680 We're gonna have to be a hit.
00:24:48.680 We're gonna have to be a hit.
00:24:49.680 We'll be a hit.
00:24:50.680 You should not be a hit.
00:24:51.680 Do you think our goal could be López?
00:24:53.680 No.
00:24:54.680 I think so.
00:24:55.680 López
00:24:56.680 I think so.
00:24:57.680 López
00:24:58.680 we'll be a hit.
00:24:59.680 You fight pretty similar to him.
00:25:01.680 You fight pretty similar to him.
00:25:03.680 Here and here.
00:25:05.680 Oh!
00:25:07.680 Yeah, I see.
00:25:09.680 I got to hit him with that nice thing.
00:25:11.680 Oh, man.
00:25:13.680 Nice show.
00:25:15.680 Nice show.
00:25:17.680 It's Deco.
00:25:19.680 I'm about to show you.
00:25:21.680 Yeah, so, what's cool about riding too?
00:25:23.680 It's like a little bit wide now.
00:25:25.680 When I first came up, it was Brazil versus America.
00:25:27.680 I was in Japanese, but now there's like channels coming out.
00:25:29.680 Every time.
00:25:31.680 It's so cool.
00:25:33.680 George is on top right now.
00:25:37.680 Did Ilyush get the fight against the mom?
00:25:41.680 That's the fight to make for him.
00:25:43.680 Yeah.
00:25:45.680 Yeah.
00:25:47.680 He vacated well.
00:25:49.680 That's what I'm saying.
00:25:51.680 Yeah, two champions.
00:25:53.680 He gave it up to a fighter.
00:25:55.680 He's like, he's saying, he's not anymore
00:25:57.680 of Petalweight.
00:25:59.680 He's lightweight and he's champion.
00:26:01.680 Who have, who you have.
00:26:03.680 Like, I know he's not saying.
00:26:07.680 First fight, he's saying,
00:26:09.680 oh, I don't want to fight small guys.
00:26:11.680 But what's funny?
00:26:13.680 He has the biggest name.
00:26:15.680 Yeah.
00:26:16.680 I think it's pretty easy.
00:26:17.680 I don't, you know, I'm like scared of people.
00:26:19.680 I think it's pretty easy.
00:26:20.680 I don't want to fight.
00:26:21.680 That's why they're doing the fight.
00:26:22.680 I have no idea.
00:26:23.680 Literally, the fight's amazing.
00:26:24.680 Like, who else would deserve a 4-0?
00:26:26.680 Yeah, exactly.
00:26:27.680 His mom's already walked through the lake.
00:26:28.680 Yeah, he already beat Armand.
00:26:30.680 He beat Olivera.
00:26:31.680 He beat KG.
00:26:32.680 The whole division.
00:26:34.680 Yeah.
00:26:35.680 Clearly, it's the only fight that he's done.
00:26:37.680 I think they're both phenomenal fighters.
00:26:38.680 It's the fight that I want.
00:26:39.680 Yeah, it's gonna be easy fight for Ilya.
00:26:41.680 But instead, it's the fight to...
00:26:43.680 It's so stupid to...
00:26:44.680 Let's say...
00:26:45.680 Let's say...
00:26:46.680 I mean, Ilya's my friend.
00:26:47.680 I love him, but...
00:26:48.680 It's gonna be stupid to hit fight Olivera
00:26:50.680 if he lost against Olivera.
00:26:51.680 It's not just your friend.
00:26:52.680 He's earned the shot.
00:26:53.680 I don't know the guy,
00:26:54.680 but that's clearly the guy to give the title the shot.
00:26:55.680 Yeah.
00:26:56.680 You don't say, like,
00:26:57.680 alright, this is the...
00:26:58.680 He's champion versus champion.
00:26:59.680 I guess he's facing the belt,
00:27:01.680 but not really.
00:27:02.680 He's still champion.
00:27:03.680 He should be.
00:27:04.680 He's champion.
00:27:05.680 He should be champion versus champion.
00:27:06.680 No, the guy's phenomenal.
00:27:09.680 I've been watching the race.
00:27:10.680 They're like,
00:27:11.680 wow, this guy's good.
00:27:12.680 The UFC can use a big super fight like that.
00:27:15.680 No, that's the fight to make right there.
00:27:17.680 Like, a fan...
00:27:18.680 I love it.
00:27:19.680 And from a business standpoint,
00:27:20.680 it makes sense.
00:27:21.680 Sometimes in the fight,
00:27:22.680 the fans won't see,
00:27:23.680 but from a business standpoint,
00:27:24.680 that makes sense from a business standpoint,
00:27:25.680 too.
00:27:26.680 Like, that guy's a bunch of shot.
00:27:27.680 Yeah.
00:27:28.680 Typically, when a champ warns,
00:27:30.680 people can fight for the belt,
00:27:31.680 they allow him.
00:27:32.680 I know they say,
00:27:33.680 he can't help.
00:27:34.680 That doesn't really matter.
00:27:35.680 I don't know.
00:27:36.680 It's more just like...
00:27:42.680 Hey, guys.
00:27:43.680 Yeah, man.
00:27:44.680 Really appreciate that.
00:27:45.680 Thanks so much, bro.
00:27:46.680 Always good to see you.