SNEAKO - April 19, 2025


Training with UFC Champion Merab Dvalishvili

Topics
Islam's fight vs. Oliveira gambling dangers boxing training sessions bro code
Hosted by
Nicolas Kenn De Balinthazy
Mentioned
López López Joe Schilling Sean O'Malley Jake Shields Shano Mali Oliveira McGregor Ilya Islam Makachev Cookie Monster Kung Fu Alhamdulillah Blackjack Epstein Detach Sneeko Rubens Segudo George Ilyush and 4 more
NYC Responds to Karmelo Anthony CONCERTS ARE FOR NPCs.

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Length

27 minutes

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5,089

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733

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Misogyny

10

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Toxicity

69

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Hate speech

9

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Ilya Oliveira is the new UFC Middleweight champion, and we're here to talk about it. We also talk about the current state of the UFC and what it means for the future of the division. And of course, we have a special guest on the show this week.

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00:00:00 I know you start saying, oh, I don't want to fight small guys, but what's going on?
00:00:06 I think it's crazy.
00:00:11 So why are they doing the fight?
00:00:13 They don't need a fight today, in my opinion.
00:00:15 Islam's already walked through the way. 0.99
00:00:16 Yeah, he beat Armand, he beat KG.
00:00:20 The whole division?
00:00:22 Yeah, clearly it's the only fight that makes sense.
00:00:24 I think they're both phenomenal fighters.
00:00:25 It's the fight that I want.
00:00:26 Yeah, it's going to be an easy fight for Ilya, but it's the fight, too. 0.98
00:00:30 It's so stupid to, let's say, I mean, Ilya's my friend, I love him, but it's going to be stupid to he fights Oliveira if he lost against Oliveira. 0.97
00:00:39 It's not just your friend, he's earned the shot. 0.99
00:00:40 I don't know the guy, but that's clearly the guy who didn't get the shot.
00:00:42 Yeah, you're saying like, all right, all right, this is the champion.
00:00:47 Do you think it's going to be easier or harder than the first fight?
00:00:49 It's going to be harder for me.
00:00:51 I mean, if it's easier, oh, it's good, but I have no preparation for the hard fight.
00:00:56 And this way, you have to train from hard, I mean, you make it look easy, but if I'm kidding, oh, like sometimes it's harder for me to train hard because I know I beat this guy.
00:01:10 You have to psych yourself.
00:01:11 Exactly, I have to be still hungry.
00:01:12 I have to remember it.
00:01:14 First time I was challenger and I was game and I was hungry and I was disciplined and I was, yeah, but like you said, like he takes one punch.
00:01:23 If I make any mistake, if I should go, I'm not going to punch.
00:01:27 If that's great, yeah.
00:01:28 He has some choke.
00:01:29 His jitsu is underage, so I think his jitsu is pretty good.
00:01:31 Do you think our goal can be my side?
00:01:33 No.
00:01:34 I think so, but my side is...
00:01:39 You want to be right now.
00:01:42 Thank you.
00:01:43 I think so, but my side is going to be right now.
00:01:55 I'm going to make this.
00:01:57 It's lonely at the top, lot of people are watching and want me to flop.
00:02:00 I'm telling the kids if I can do it, then anyone can, car came from none.
00:02:04 One stop and search away from the blocks.
00:02:05 In this life I don't feel fair, only man that can make me afraid is good.
00:02:09 Negative press on the shade room, anything good it don't make the blocks.
00:02:12 It's a quick little five and a half hour flight, but when you go west coast you time travel,
00:02:20 so it's going to be about the same time on that ride.
00:02:24 I was just 16, witnessing that at that age was wrong.
00:02:26 Detach myself from every emotion.
00:02:28 Yes.
00:02:29 Yes.
00:02:30 Yes.
00:02:31 Yes.
00:02:33 I'm jumping the barriers if the inspector get on the train.
00:02:36 Back in Las Vegas.
00:02:37 Las Vegas is a very dystopian feeling to it.
00:02:41 One you can only describe if you're here.
00:02:43 I think the slots in the airport is describing what I'm talking about.
00:02:47 It was 24?
00:02:49 Yeah.
00:02:49 All right, thanks so much.
00:02:51 Close call.
00:02:52 Can't forget these.
00:02:53 Now the whip that I'm in is an impatient one.
00:02:55 Put my foot on the gas when the light goes amber. 0.99
00:02:57 Try to touch me on guns, we'll shoot.
00:02:58 We don't do kung fu and fight like band-up. 0.55
00:03:00 My guy's a convicted criminal, so he got to hide from cameras. 0.99
00:03:03 All of my bitches pretty as hell. 1.00
00:03:05 I could start up a beauty pageant. 0.99
00:03:06 How'd I end up with a weight and clap for my started my day and end?
00:03:08 The first time I went to a casino, I went to Atlantic City, and I showed up in a suit because
00:03:13 I thought everyone shows up well-dressed, like the mafia era with suits, and you come
00:03:19 here and it's like, oh, they're wearing Cookie Monster pajamas and flip-flops.
00:03:23 Don't gamble.
00:03:24 What's that?
00:03:24 Are you Sneeko?
00:03:25 Hey, what's going on? 1.00
00:03:26 Holy shit, bro. 0.99
00:03:27 Nice to meet you. 0.99
00:03:27 What are you doing here?
00:03:28 Are you going to WrestleMania?
00:03:29 I'm wrestling tonight.
00:03:30 Oh, you are?
00:03:31 Yeah, the 4th Road Show, Westside Gun and all.
00:03:33 We have a show tonight.
00:03:34 Oh.
00:03:34 Club 59, it's here.
00:03:35 Am I supposed to know who you are?
00:03:37 I don't work here, so.
00:03:38 Why do people know who you are?
00:03:40 Am I supposed to know who you are?
00:03:41 Maybe.
00:03:42 What's your name?
00:03:43 Autumn.
00:03:44 Autumn, nice to meet you.
00:03:46 Why does he know you?
00:03:47 I think he thinks I'm someone famous.
00:03:49 Are you famous?
00:03:52 What do you ask me is famous?
00:03:54 Are you recording?
00:03:56 Oh, no.
00:03:56 It's not on right now.
00:03:57 Okay, yeah.
00:03:58 No footage.
00:03:59 Yeah, yeah.
00:04:01 I didn't ask for your name.
00:04:02 Joe, by the way.
00:04:03 Joe, okay.
00:04:04 Oh, yeah, don't drop that.
00:04:07 Yeah.
00:04:08 That's a good one.
00:04:10 Appreciate it, man.
00:04:11 Of course, man.
00:04:12 I'll see you tonight. 0.98
00:04:13 I think almost certainly that girl was a prostitute because when she gave me her number, she put 1.00
00:04:26 in a Google Voice number. 0.59
00:04:28 Who uses Google Voice?
00:04:31 I'm meeting up with Jake Shields in 50 minutes.
00:04:44 Been here for 10.
00:04:44 No one's taking my order.
00:04:45 I hate Las Vegas.
00:04:46 I just don't like Las Vegas, man.
00:04:48 I always want to leave.
00:04:49 Doc and Light did sell it in two before I got an invite to my Rubens all-white party, 4th
00:04:53 of July.
00:04:54 I was sat in a trap with a pack all night.
00:04:55 Cocaine fragrance weren't dressed in white.
00:04:57 15 minutes away from the shop, but I said I'll get there in less than five.
00:05:00 It gives me the ick when those come around.
00:05:02 I'm trying too hard to impress the guys.
00:05:04 How much are you up right now?
00:05:10 I'm going $200 off five bucks.
00:05:12 Okay, $200 off five bucks.
00:05:14 Okay.
00:05:14 Now's the time to cash out.
00:05:16 That's what I'm supposed to do.
00:05:17 That's what I'm supposed to do.
00:05:18 But you're not going to.
00:05:20 Because I'll lay you right here.
00:05:21 I'm going to leave.
00:05:22 I'm telling you.
00:05:23 We're like $5.
00:05:25 All right.
00:05:25 We'll see.
00:05:26 All right.
00:05:26 All right.
00:05:26 We'll see.
00:05:27 All right.
00:05:28 He's going to lose all that money.
00:05:30 It's away from the shop.
00:05:30 I said I'll get there in less than five.
00:05:32 It gives me the ick when those come around and try too hard to impress the guys. 0.93
00:05:36 The marketing from online casinos is so genius that they turn one of the most pathetic 0.90
00:05:40 environments into a social club that celebrities hang out at.
00:05:45 Yo, what are you doing here?
00:05:46 Hey, what's going on, man?
00:05:47 What's up, man?
00:05:47 I'm just recording a video. 0.99
00:05:49 Oh, shit. 0.98
00:05:49 I'm sorry. 0.99
00:05:50 That's okay.
00:05:50 I just know who you are.
00:05:51 Oh, nice to meet you.
00:05:51 Are you here for Mania Week?
00:05:53 Who?
00:05:53 Mania?
00:05:54 Are you here for Mania Week?
00:05:54 Yeah, yeah.
00:05:54 I'll be there tonight.
00:05:56 You guys coming?
00:05:57 Yeah, you're coming.
00:05:58 All right.
00:05:58 I'm an interviewer, so.
00:05:59 Oh, you're the interviewer?
00:06:00 Yeah.
00:06:00 Japanese, Spanish, everything.
00:06:02 Okay.
00:06:03 Well, you speak Japanese?
00:06:05 Let me hear that.
00:06:06 How do you say quit gambling in Japanese?
00:06:09 That was good.
00:06:10 That was good.
00:06:11 That was good.
00:06:12 That was good.
00:06:13 No, this is like a weird householder.
00:06:16 Well, you've got to be careful in places like this, brother.
00:06:22 Okay.
00:06:23 Alhamdulillah.
00:06:24 Alhamdulillah.
00:06:24 I met Islam Makhachev at a casino two years ago, and he told me, brother, you have to
00:06:29 be careful in places like this.
00:06:31 I'm recording a video right now about how dangerous it is to gamble, because online casinos, they
00:06:36 made it really cool for people like Drake and Conor McGregor to be gambling all the time.
00:06:41 But in reality, you're going to be 55, smoking cigarettes, overweight, sitting here,
00:06:44 spinning slots, and losing your pension.
00:06:46 Imagine, so it's better to just do it.
00:06:49 But you know what? 0.99
00:06:49 When you go to those people, you take the L, they're losers. 0.99
00:06:53 I mean, that's 99%. 0.91
00:06:54 The winners are the people who own the casino.
00:06:56 Yeah, exactly.
00:06:58 But, so, where are you from?
00:07:01 Actually, Venezuela.
00:07:02 Oh, from Venezuela?
00:07:03 Yeah.
00:07:04 Marico.
00:07:06 I know that means... 0.99
00:07:07 Are you gay? 0.99
00:07:07 No, that means brother. 0.95
00:07:08 That means brother is the same thing.
00:07:10 No.
00:07:10 Oye, marico.
00:07:11 Yeah, yeah. 0.67
00:07:11 It means gay and brother.
00:07:13 I know, conyo, but that's not Venezuelan, is it?
00:07:15 It's very Venezuelan.
00:07:16 Oh, it is?
00:07:17 Okay, okay.
00:07:18 Nice to meet you guys.
00:07:18 You guys gambling?
00:07:19 Okay, I'm literally going to gamble my college tuition away, bro.
00:07:22 I'm not even trolling.
00:07:24 Wait, your whole college tuition?
00:07:25 Yeah, everything.
00:07:26 So how much is that?
00:07:27 I mean, like, whatever they loan me.
00:07:29 Oh, so you're gambling your student loans tonight?
00:07:31 Yeah, everything.
00:07:32 Everything?
00:07:33 Yeah, everything.
00:07:33 On what?
00:07:34 Blackjack? 0.67
00:07:35 No, I play back rat. 0.75
00:07:36 Back rat craps. 0.88
00:07:36 Throw the dice. 0.97
00:07:38 Okay, so...
00:07:38 Win a billion dollars.
00:07:39 Why are you doing that?
00:07:40 It's fun, bro.
00:07:42 It's a good rush for the heart.
00:07:43 Sometimes you come up fat.
00:07:44 Well, what if you lose?
00:07:46 Then I don't go to college, bro.
00:07:47 How old are you?
00:07:48 I'm 25.
00:07:49 Do you endorse this as...
00:07:50 No, hell no.
00:07:51 This guy's not a lot of gambler.
00:07:52 He's not...
00:07:53 How old are you?
00:07:53 He's good.
00:07:54 I'm 19.
00:07:55 Wait, 25, you're still in college.
00:07:57 Exactly.
00:07:57 What do you think? 0.98
00:07:58 He's degenerate, bro. 0.98
00:07:59 Yeah, yeah. 0.98
00:08:01 Okay, well...
00:08:02 Yeah?
00:08:02 Gamble responsibly.
00:08:03 Yeah, hopefully it goes good.
00:08:04 Hopefully, yeah.
00:08:05 If I come up 100K, come through.
00:08:08 I'll be here, I'll be here.
00:08:09 I'll buy your table or something.
00:08:10 All right, cool.
00:08:11 Okay.
00:08:11 Take care, bro.
00:08:12 Nice to meet you guys. 1.00
00:08:14 What the fuck? 0.99
00:08:16 Can I see your shirt? 1.00
00:08:18 Oh, God.
00:08:18 Oh, thank you.
00:08:20 This is funny here.
00:08:21 Deshaun.
00:08:21 Yeah, the do-rags.
00:08:22 No, it's Deshaun.
00:08:23 Yeah, the do-rags.
00:08:24 Oh, there's a do-rag right here. 1.00
00:08:26 Hey, thanks for bringing Joe Schilling here.
00:08:27 What did you think of that short training session, like 40 minutes?
00:08:30 A lot of work, though.
00:08:31 Yeah, it was just nonstop.
00:08:32 That's all you need a lot of time.
00:08:33 There's no breaks.
00:08:33 Hour in and out.
00:08:34 Yeah, no breaks.
00:08:35 Just go, go.
00:08:35 Guys who come to the gym is three or four hours and get like- 0.99
00:08:38 And dick around. 0.93
00:08:39 Yeah. 0.99
00:08:39 It's just like, go, go.
00:08:40 You don't need these long training sessions.
00:08:42 I mean, sometimes your work's more technical, but for boxing, it's simple.
00:08:45 You want to come in, burn out.
00:08:46 If you keep going, you're not going to put in as good work.
00:08:49 I'm surprised that you weren't comfortable enough with your boxing ability to train one-on-one
00:08:54 without Joe Schilling.
00:08:54 I mean, Joe Schilling was great, but I'm surprised you were at the highest level of fighting in
00:08:58 the world.
00:08:58 Yeah.
00:08:59 And you're still like- American jiu-jitsu wrestling is your strong suit.
00:09:01 Yeah, I'm an expert in jiu-jitsu.
00:09:03 If someone has to speak as a training jiu-jitsu, I think I'm one of the best in the world and
00:09:06 coaches.
00:09:07 Out of all the fighters, I would praise myself, but I have to be realistic.
00:09:10 I'm a good boxer, but I'm not like that world elite level Joe, and you're my friend, so
00:09:14 I'm not going to try to like- I don't have an ego where I need to be like, oh, I'm going
00:09:16 to be the best boxing.
00:09:17 I know realistically, Joe's a better boxing coach than me, so it makes sense to bring him
00:09:20 over.
00:09:20 Yeah, what's the bro code, Jake? 0.99
00:09:22 You just never talk shit about a friend or an ex-friend. 0.88
00:09:24 I think it's completely unacceptable, even if you're not friends with anyone. 0.98
00:09:27 People are calling out saying, oh, we used to party, this guy did this and that.
00:09:30 It's just, it's not cool to do.
00:09:31 When I see guys doing that, I don't want to hang out with that person.
00:09:33 No, you shouldn't not be, especially if they're gathering evidence, if they're collecting
00:09:36 Epstein blackmail.
00:09:37 That's insane.
00:09:38 I had a friend of 20 years having to be of a certain group who was like doing blackmail,
00:09:43 trying to get sponsors after me, had old pictures.
00:09:46 I'm just like, wow.
00:09:48 It was shocking to me because I'm just such a good, loyal friend.
00:09:51 I would never stab someone in the back.
00:09:53 So when someone does it, it's just, I was mad for Dave, but it was just kind of hurtful.
00:09:56 Even if I had like an issue with a friend and I had a bunch of stuff going out, parties,
00:10:00 chicks, I would never do that. 0.94
00:10:02 It's just a, it's bro code.
00:10:03 If you don't want to do that to someone else's friend, you're like, that guy's not someone
00:10:06 you could ever trust.
00:10:06 It transcends manners.
00:10:08 It's like a different, it's an unspoken rule.
00:10:09 What's more important than clout is actually relationships because clout comes and goes.
00:10:14 But if you have a long-term relationship with somebody who has good opportunities, then
00:10:17 you're right back where you were left off.
00:10:19 You nailed it.
00:10:20 Cause that's, I have all long-term relationships because everyone I've been around fighting for years
00:10:24 knows I keep my word, all this stuff.
00:10:26 So whenever I want to do any business or same thing, starting a podcast, I'm getting just
00:10:29 such a great guest because I have all these relationships.
00:10:31 The Georgian belt.
00:10:33 Hey, the champ is here.
00:10:35 How are you?
00:10:35 Thank you.
00:10:35 What up, man?
00:10:57 Hey, what's going on?
00:11:00 Oh my God.
00:11:01 Do you see Marab over there? 0.95
00:11:05 What the hell? 0.87
00:11:06 That's Marab. 0.95
00:11:06 That's the champ right there.
00:11:09 No.
00:11:09 Yeah, it's a crazy day.
00:11:11 Hey, we're looking at me.
00:11:12 Yeah, sure.
00:11:13 Oh my God.
00:11:13 I hate it so much.
00:11:30 You guys are like, oh, your next fight's going to be super easy.
00:11:33 And it's like, no, I can't beat the fight as well.
00:11:35 Exactly.
00:11:36 If you look any fight easy, you're going to get knocked down.
00:11:40 You're going to lose this fight.
00:11:41 You have to take it serious.
00:11:43 Any fight.
00:11:44 Then if you play chess, you have to be game.
00:11:48 You have to dominate.
00:11:49 It only takes you one fight.
00:11:50 I don't know, if I do the small gloves, the chokes,
00:11:53 but you might have a mentally bad day.
00:11:54 There's just so many factors.
00:11:56 You guys are like, oh, Shano Mali's easy. 1.00
00:11:58 Are you insane? 0.95
00:11:59 Shano Mali's like world champion. 0.99
00:12:01 Phenomenal.
00:12:02 It takes one mistake.
00:12:03 Oh, his knees and stuff?
00:12:05 Yeah, exactly.
00:12:06 That's why I like, I know how game I was first fight.
00:12:09 And I did everything good.
00:12:12 And he still got me with the kick.
00:12:14 Oh, he did that nice kick.
00:12:15 Yeah.
00:12:16 And then I'm like, because first round,
00:12:21 I was taking down and controlling.
00:12:23 And sometimes I let him get up.
00:12:25 But then when he got me, I'm like, why I let him go?
00:12:29 I should try my best. 0.73
00:12:31 Because I'm like, hook the leg and beat him up. 0.57
00:12:33 Yeah, I should, I let him get up.
00:12:34 But now I know he's going to make lots of adjustments.
00:12:38 But yeah, like you said,
00:12:39 people tell me, oh, yeah, it's easy, bro.
00:12:41 It's not easy.
00:12:42 I'm picking you to win that fight.
00:12:43 That's a tough fight.
00:12:44 Oh, man.
00:12:44 He's a phenomenal fighter.
00:12:46 You know, I'm joking.
00:12:46 Especially, he's kind of no loss.
00:12:49 And then now.
00:12:49 He's going to be hungry, yeah?
00:12:50 Yeah.
00:12:50 That was your last fight.
00:12:51 Have you fought since then or no?
00:12:53 No.
00:12:53 Yeah, he's going to be hungry.
00:12:55 He really wants that belt.
00:12:56 Do you think it's going to be easier or harder
00:12:57 than the first fight?
00:12:58 It's going to be harder for me.
00:13:00 I mean, if it's easier, it's good.
00:13:02 But I have to prepare for the hard fight.
00:13:06 And this way, you have to train from hard.
00:13:10 You make it look easy.
00:13:11 But if I'm thinking, oh, sometimes it's hard for me
00:13:16 to train hard because I know I beat this guy.
00:13:19 You have to psych yourself.
00:13:20 Exactly.
00:13:20 I have to be still hungry.
00:13:22 I have to remember.
00:13:23 First time I was a challenger and I was game
00:13:25 and I was hungry and I was disciplined and I was, yeah,
00:13:30 but like you said, like, he takes one punch.
00:13:32 If I make any mistakes, if I should go,
00:13:34 I'm not going to throw one punch. 0.95
00:13:37 He has some chokes. 0.69
00:13:38 He has a good back taking.
00:13:39 His jiu-jitsu is great, too.
00:13:40 I think his jiu-jitsu is pretty good.
00:13:42 Yeah.
00:13:42 I think it's like a little, a little bit harder
00:13:44 when you go down to one of the grades
00:13:46 and you have to give a few more big wins.
00:13:48 And you're like, this is one of the, you know,
00:13:49 one of the grades of all time.
00:13:51 So, like, you know, you have to keep that hunger,
00:13:52 and I'll keep my way up, down there with, like, the greatest.
00:13:55 Who do you think was more skilled,
00:13:57 Segudo or Sean O'Malley?
00:14:02 Segudo surprised me, actually, 0.93
00:14:04 how he was like,
00:14:06 he came really close and caught me, you know?
00:14:09 He was good, but,
00:14:12 and then I figured it out,
00:14:14 after the first song,
00:14:15 I figured out this style
00:14:16 and I was doing my right style.
00:14:19 I was,
00:14:20 I don't know what I'm doing.
00:14:22 But, you know, it's two different,
00:14:25 two different styles.
00:14:27 What's O'Malley style?
00:14:28 Irish, McGregor, kind of?
00:14:30 No, O'Malley's different.
00:14:32 You know, he's still in the wrong range.
00:14:35 He's, boom,
00:14:36 bop, bop,
00:14:37 or just, bah,
00:14:38 if you go too close,
00:14:40 he's always ready for like this.
00:14:42 This time,
00:14:42 I think now he's gonna just stop.
00:14:48 O'Malley's really good at keeping range.
00:14:50 I was talking to you, like, earlier about distance.
00:14:52 He has a great awareness of the space,
00:14:54 so that's a guy,
00:14:54 you can't take him down,
00:14:55 but you're just like,
00:14:56 he's so good at controlling the distance,
00:14:58 but you just, like, blitzkrieg.
00:15:00 Yeah, me, I,
00:15:01 I know what I was doing.
00:15:03 I was making,
00:15:05 like, I don't know, like,
00:15:06 it was hard to take him down.
00:15:09 I know I was game.
00:15:10 I know how I was supposed to shoot.
00:15:14 I know where I was able to take him down,
00:15:17 and I did exactly.
00:15:18 The third round,
00:15:19 I take him down,
00:15:21 and then the referee told me,
00:15:23 you gotta do something,
00:15:24 and I let him go.
00:15:25 And after I was trying, 0.57
00:15:27 I shoot a couple times,
00:15:28 he was defending.
00:15:29 You know what I'm saying?
00:15:30 He's good.
00:15:30 But,
00:15:31 because when I was really trying,
00:15:33 it was very hard.
00:15:34 Oh, he's just,
00:15:35 the distance is so good.
00:15:36 People are like,
00:15:36 oh, he's taking him down.
00:15:37 Are you out of your mind?
00:15:38 Have you watched this guy fight?
00:15:39 Like, here's your good friend,
00:15:40 and tonight he was so good,
00:15:41 you know?
00:15:42 Yeah, I was just making,
00:15:44 like, a big mistake,
00:15:46 and I, you know,
00:15:46 like, I was on point.
00:15:47 No, he'll catch a small mistake.
00:15:49 That's why he was a world champion,
00:15:50 too.
00:15:51 Yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:15:52 You have to, you know,
00:15:53 go out there and fight perfect
00:15:53 when you're fighting elite guys.
00:15:55 But even you,
00:15:55 you're an amateur.
00:15:56 You gotta still rise to the occasion.
00:15:57 What's your plan?
00:15:59 You're boxing much.
00:16:00 What's your game plan?
00:16:01 I plan,
00:16:02 one, two,
00:16:03 stick to my range.
00:16:04 One, two,
00:16:05 hold on.
00:16:06 One, two,
00:16:06 move.
00:16:07 No.
00:16:08 You're not gonna go right.
00:16:09 No, no, no, no.
00:16:11 He's gonna do it.
00:16:12 That's what I'm about.
00:16:13 That's what I think he's gonna do.
00:16:14 Okay, then maybe
00:16:14 if you come like this,
00:16:16 right here,
00:16:16 move.
00:16:18 Take him time first.
00:16:20 You know,
00:16:20 usually the amateur fighters,
00:16:21 if they don't have experience,
00:16:22 they're gonna get tired.
00:16:23 Yes,
00:16:24 no,
00:16:24 no.
00:16:24 Maybe,
00:16:26 okay,
00:16:26 you know,
00:16:27 boxing,
00:16:28 you can,
00:16:28 you can,
00:16:28 you can,
00:16:28 you can,
00:16:29 you can,
00:16:29 you can,
00:16:30 you know,
00:16:30 you know,
00:16:31 make you tired.
00:16:32 What advice would you give to someone
00:16:58 taking that first fight?
00:16:59 What?
00:17:00 What advice would you give to someone
00:17:01 taking that first fight?
00:17:03 Just go do your best.
00:17:05 You know,
00:17:05 don't,
00:17:05 don't,
00:17:06 don't think over too much.
00:17:10 Like,
00:17:10 don't stress too much.
00:17:12 Just go and do your best.
00:17:13 Whatever he was practicing in the gym.
00:17:16 What advice,
00:17:17 just spine in the gym.
00:17:18 Do more spine,
00:17:20 you know,
00:17:20 light spine,
00:17:21 touch spine.
00:17:21 And this way,
00:17:23 you release to it.
00:17:24 Like,
00:17:24 see everything we have.
00:17:25 And then,
00:17:27 and then when you go fight,
00:17:29 just whatever I use,
00:17:31 you know,
00:17:31 in the spot.
00:17:32 That's incredible.
00:17:34 Okay,
00:17:34 try to think more like it's training.
00:17:35 Because sometimes you get too worked up,
00:17:37 you gotta learn hard,
00:17:38 because you gotta learn for a lot.
00:17:39 Especially,
00:17:39 you gotta have a little pain,
00:17:40 you gotta be watching,
00:17:41 and everybody don't fight.
00:17:42 It's a ton of pressure.
00:17:43 Yeah,
00:17:43 yeah,
00:17:44 so sometimes when you fight,
00:17:45 it's a ton of pressure,
00:17:46 you know,
00:17:46 and,
00:17:47 yeah,
00:17:47 not,
00:17:48 not sometimes.
00:17:49 Yeah,
00:17:49 every time.
00:17:50 I don't understand these guys,
00:17:51 they say they don't get scared.
00:17:52 It's like, 0.99
00:17:52 how the fuck do you not get scared? 0.98
00:17:53 And it's just the most terrifying thing to do. 0.98
00:17:55 I don't know if scared is the right word,
00:17:57 but there's like some nerve before you fight.
00:17:58 Yeah,
00:17:58 it's crazy,
00:18:00 but every time it's different.
00:18:01 Sometimes,
00:18:02 I'm crazy.
00:18:04 I used to excite them,
00:18:05 like,
00:18:06 almost every time there.
00:18:07 Now,
00:18:08 because of now,
00:18:09 I know what I'm gonna do.
00:18:11 I'm like,
00:18:12 okay,
00:18:12 all I'm thinking is,
00:18:14 like,
00:18:14 I'm stepping.
00:18:15 You still want to overthink it,
00:18:16 right?
00:18:16 I try to overthink it.
00:18:18 And,
00:18:18 you don't have to get too much stress.
00:18:19 You go through it.
00:18:20 Oh,
00:18:20 you walk out there,
00:18:20 so I fought this year.
00:18:22 How was that?
00:18:22 That was like,
00:18:23 I was like,
00:18:23 I was like,
00:18:23 I was like,
00:18:25 I was very relaxed.
00:18:27 And I like,
00:18:28 it was good life.
00:18:30 Yeah,
00:18:30 I was not that much fortunate.
00:18:32 And the people was a little bit far away,
00:18:34 and they took good,
00:18:35 because not too many people around.
00:18:36 Oh,
00:18:37 if it was less like pressure,
00:18:38 you're driving it.
00:18:39 But I cannot really hear.
00:18:41 And they was very quiet,
00:18:42 and I like it.
00:18:43 I don't know.
00:18:43 Oh,
00:18:43 yeah.
00:18:44 Yeah,
00:18:44 you fight in Japan,
00:18:45 it was just silence in the crowd.
00:18:46 It's like,
00:18:47 too quiet almost.
00:18:47 It's like,
00:18:48 we were hearing.
00:18:48 Yeah,
00:18:51 so,
00:18:51 one,
00:18:53 two,
00:18:53 you said one,
00:18:53 two?
00:18:54 One,
00:18:54 two,
00:18:54 yeah.
00:18:55 So,
00:18:55 let's say,
00:18:56 I'm going to tell you,
00:18:56 what are you going to do?
00:18:58 Yeah.
00:18:59 I'm going to tell you.
00:19:00 What?
00:19:02 Yeah.
00:19:02 Yeah.
00:19:04 I'm going to tell you.
00:19:06 I'm going to tell you.
00:19:11 I'm going to tell you.
00:19:12 I'm going to tell you.
00:19:42 I'm going to tell you.
00:19:43 I'm going to tell you.
00:19:56 I'm going to tell you.
00:19:57 Yeah,
00:19:58 I think the distance is the biggest thing you've got to work on, but it's better.
00:20:01 He's solid.
00:20:02 He's solid.
00:20:03 He's solid.
00:20:04 I feel like it's all about this.
00:20:06 It's like one of the most crucial things I taught you to throw time is that distance,
00:20:10 He's a streamer, they don't know him.
00:20:14 Is he pretty big or no?
00:20:16 I think no.
00:20:18 No, he's not very much.
00:20:20 I just want my first fight, it's fun.
00:20:22 I'm getting old, I'm 26.
00:20:24 Every man can fight it.
00:20:26 It really changes, you make sure you're a better person.
00:20:30 How old were you when you started? 21?
00:20:36 Yeah, they say it's just me.
00:20:38 How old are you now?
00:20:39 34.
00:20:41 That's right in your prime.
00:20:43 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:20:45 I'm like, I'm saying like I said,
00:20:47 I'm the same guy, same hungry, same motivation,
00:20:49 but it's just getting hard and hard.
00:20:53 All these texts, people I know, important stuff, sponsors.
00:20:59 It's hard to say no to opportunities.
00:21:03 You're a nice guy, I suppose he had everything,
00:21:05 but you get overwhelming sometimes.
00:21:07 It's hard to say no to people.
00:21:09 Yeah, I want to say yes to everything,
00:21:11 but I have to be.
00:21:13 You have to focus on your fight too.
00:21:15 That's why I really appreciate you that we do this.
00:21:17 You really have to be selfish and focus on your fight
00:21:19 when you're winning both titles.
00:21:21 Especially the closer to the fight against you.
00:21:23 That's why I came forward early to come over with you.
00:21:25 A couple weeks for a fight, 1.00
00:21:27 I just don't always tell them to fuck off. 0.99
00:21:29 It's easy anyways because of UFC and countdowns. 1.00
00:21:33 They're giving you so much media.
00:21:35 Yeah, like when you're at camp, the media is insane.
00:21:37 I remember when I bought these, it wasn't the champ,
00:21:39 the media obligation they gave you was insane.
00:21:41 That takes a lot of time.
00:21:43 It's hard to keep talking.
00:21:45 How much do you weigh right now?
00:21:47 How much do you weigh right now?
00:21:49 Good job.
00:21:51 20 pounds is different if you're heavy weight versus 35 pounds.
00:21:55 Yeah.
00:21:57 This is the hardest thing.
00:21:59 What weight is the hardest thing?
00:22:01 Yeah.
00:22:03 That's 10 pounds.
00:22:05 That's 10 pounds.
00:22:07 You're still going to be humble.
00:22:09 Your body type that you don't blow a lot of extra water,
00:22:12 so it's going to be harder for you to some people.
00:22:14 Yeah.
00:22:15 It does.
00:22:16 It's a pretty good time.
00:22:17 I mean...
00:22:18 It's very beautiful, but...
00:22:19 It's still going to...
00:22:20 For us, 10 pounds is time.
00:22:21 But, I mean, it's one day work.
00:22:23 For you, you're going to still cry.
00:22:25 It's going to be humble.
00:22:26 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:22:27 I'm not going to cry.
00:22:28 If it counts to us, it's like,
00:22:29 oh, I'll drop that in a couple hours.
00:22:30 You're 155 right now.
00:22:31 You're lightweight.
00:22:32 Would you ever go up in weight class?
00:22:36 Maybe.
00:22:37 Yeah, if super fights make sense, of course.
00:22:40 I would like to challenge,
00:22:41 but now I want to clean out my division,
00:22:43 and, yeah, just improve it, man.
00:22:47 It's my division.
00:22:48 I want to focus on one thing.
00:22:49 One thing at a time.
00:22:50 Yeah, yeah.
00:22:51 You got to look at one fight at a time.
00:22:52 I would love to see you fight for the BMF belt.
00:22:54 Yeah, I'm good.
00:22:57 You got the real...
00:22:59 You got to do the big challenge.
00:23:01 I think now is your time,
00:23:02 and your popularity really just skyrocketed
00:23:04 the last couple of fights,
00:23:05 so now it's time to make some real money
00:23:07 and stay focused.
00:23:08 Usually you have to stay.
00:23:09 If you lose a little bit of focus, 0.99
00:23:10 it's fucking... 1.00
00:23:11 It's tough. 1.00
00:23:12 Every fight is tough.
00:23:13 Yeah, man, man.
00:23:15 Yeah, like...
00:23:17 And like we're saying,
00:23:18 even your group,
00:23:19 that is the guy,
00:23:20 even Omali,
00:23:21 he's not going to let you make any mistakes.
00:23:23 It only takes one punch.
00:23:28 It's actually dangerous.
00:23:30 You have the tools to beat him for sure,
00:23:32 but he's a dangerous guy.
00:23:33 Some guys aren't dangerous,
00:23:34 and Omali is always dangerous. 0.97
00:23:35 Yeah.
00:23:37 But because people are like...
00:23:39 I'm very master-making now,
00:23:41 because if they look satisfied,
00:23:43 and they look easy,
00:23:45 they'll be...
00:23:46 I mean, you clearly didn't want to fight,
00:23:48 but it wasn't easy.
00:23:49 Yeah, exactly.
00:23:50 I think I thought it was a good fight.
00:23:51 Yeah.
00:23:52 Because obviously you want to fight.
00:23:53 It's very exciting.
00:23:54 Yeah, people don't know.
00:23:55 Because people,
00:23:56 like,
00:23:57 not traditional like you,
00:23:58 they cannot see...
00:24:00 They can't see the danger
00:24:01 with his envy,
00:24:02 his kicks, I guess.
00:24:03 No, really.
00:24:08 What do you think about López?
00:24:10 Well, López...
00:24:12 I mean,
00:24:13 López,
00:24:14 I mean,
00:24:15 López is a really good fighter,
00:24:16 but López
00:24:18 give him very,
00:24:19 very good fight.
00:24:20 López
00:24:21 López,
00:24:22 but...
00:24:23 I was,
00:24:24 like,
00:24:25 I was not...
00:24:26 I mean,
00:24:27 I was not accepting
00:24:28 this much close,
00:24:29 you know?
00:24:30 Because the fight was...
00:24:31 3-2 maybe.
00:24:32 Yeah,
00:24:33 that's a very close fight.
00:24:35 Well,
00:24:36 win for sure,
00:24:37 but...
00:24:38 close.
00:24:39 Yeah,
00:24:40 it was a good fight.
00:24:41 López
00:24:42 it's a good fight.
00:24:43 So,
00:24:44 we're gonna have to be a hit. 0.99
00:24:45 Both here have to be a hit.
00:24:46 We're gonna have to be a hit. 0.99
00:24:47 We're gonna have to be a hit. 0.99
00:24:48 We're gonna have to be a hit. 0.99
00:24:49 We'll be a hit.
00:24:50 You should not be a hit.
00:24:51 Do you think our goal could be López?
00:24:53 No.
00:24:54 I think so.
00:24:55 López
00:24:56 I think so.
00:24:57 López
00:24:58 we'll be a hit.
00:24:59 You fight pretty similar to him.
00:25:01 You fight pretty similar to him.
00:25:03 Here and here.
00:25:05 Oh! 0.60
00:25:07 Yeah, I see. 0.94
00:25:09 I got to hit him with that nice thing. 0.95
00:25:11 Oh, man.
00:25:13 Nice show.
00:25:15 Nice show.
00:25:17 It's Deco.
00:25:19 I'm about to show you.
00:25:21 Yeah, so, what's cool about riding too?
00:25:23 It's like a little bit wide now.
00:25:25 When I first came up, it was Brazil versus America. 0.66
00:25:27 I was in Japanese, but now there's like channels coming out.
00:25:29 Every time.
00:25:31 It's so cool.
00:25:33 George is on top right now.
00:25:37 Did Ilyush get the fight against the mom?
00:25:41 That's the fight to make for him.
00:25:43 Yeah.
00:25:45 Yeah.
00:25:47 He vacated well.
00:25:49 That's what I'm saying.
00:25:51 Yeah, two champions.
00:25:53 He gave it up to a fighter.
00:25:55 He's like, he's saying, he's not anymore
00:25:57 of Petalweight.
00:25:59 He's lightweight and he's champion.
00:26:01 Who have, who you have.
00:26:03 Like, I know he's not saying.
00:26:07 First fight, he's saying,
00:26:09 oh, I don't want to fight small guys.
00:26:11 But what's funny?
00:26:13 He has the biggest name.
00:26:15 Yeah.
00:26:16 I think it's pretty easy.
00:26:17 I don't, you know, I'm like scared of people.
00:26:19 I think it's pretty easy.
00:26:20 I don't want to fight.
00:26:21 That's why they're doing the fight.
00:26:22 I have no idea.
00:26:23 Literally, the fight's amazing.
00:26:24 Like, who else would deserve a 4-0?
00:26:26 Yeah, exactly.
00:26:27 His mom's already walked through the lake.
00:26:28 Yeah, he already beat Armand.
00:26:30 He beat Olivera.
00:26:31 He beat KG.
00:26:32 The whole division.
00:26:34 Yeah.
00:26:35 Clearly, it's the only fight that he's done.
00:26:37 I think they're both phenomenal fighters.
00:26:38 It's the fight that I want.
00:26:39 Yeah, it's gonna be easy fight for Ilya.
00:26:41 But instead, it's the fight to... 1.00
00:26:43 It's so stupid to... 1.00
00:26:44 Let's say... 1.00
00:26:45 Let's say...
00:26:46 I mean, Ilya's my friend.
00:26:47 I love him, but... 0.98
00:26:48 It's gonna be stupid to hit fight Olivera 0.99
00:26:50 if he lost against Olivera. 0.99
00:26:51 It's not just your friend.
00:26:52 He's earned the shot.
00:26:53 I don't know the guy,
00:26:54 but that's clearly the guy to give the title the shot.
00:26:55 Yeah.
00:26:56 You don't say, like,
00:26:57 alright, this is the...
00:26:58 He's champion versus champion.
00:26:59 I guess he's facing the belt,
00:27:01 but not really.
00:27:02 He's still champion.
00:27:03 He should be.
00:27:04 He's champion.
00:27:05 He should be champion versus champion.
00:27:06 No, the guy's phenomenal.
00:27:09 I've been watching the race.
00:27:10 They're like,
00:27:11 wow, this guy's good.
00:27:12 The UFC can use a big super fight like that.
00:27:15 No, that's the fight to make right there.
00:27:17 Like, a fan...
00:27:18 I love it.
00:27:19 And from a business standpoint,
00:27:20 it makes sense.
00:27:21 Sometimes in the fight,
00:27:22 the fans won't see,
00:27:23 but from a business standpoint,
00:27:24 that makes sense from a business standpoint,
00:27:25 too.
00:27:26 Like, that guy's a bunch of shot.
00:27:27 Yeah.
00:27:28 Typically, when a champ warns,
00:27:30 people can fight for the belt,
00:27:31 they allow him.
00:27:32 I know they say,
00:27:33 he can't help.
00:27:34 That doesn't really matter.
00:27:35 I don't know.
00:27:36 It's more just like...
00:27:42 Hey, guys.
00:27:43 Yeah, man.
00:27:44 Really appreciate that.
00:27:45 Thanks so much, bro.
00:27:46 Always good to see you.