SNEAKO - July 15, 2022


Why Woke Girls All Think They're Perfect


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21 minutes

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Word Count

3,871

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1

Misogynist Sentences

44

Hate Speech Sentences

26


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In this episode, we discuss the gender pay gap and how it affects women in the entertainment industry. Is it fair for women to be paid the same as men for the same work? Is there a wage gap between men and women?

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00:00:00.000 who is the most famous actress you can think of actress uh drew barrymore okay if drew barrymore
00:00:07.280 was in a movie with a male co-star that nobody had heard of would it be fair to pay them the
00:00:13.040 same salary no why not because he's not like known of and because he didn't like work to be famous
00:00:20.480 like she is okay since drew is the star of the movie won't she bring more people to the theater
00:00:25.920 than her co-star yes okay that's called star power how is that different than the gender pay gap
00:00:32.880 oh that's a loaded one um like for women or for like well i mean the wnba complains about not being
00:00:41.700 paid the same to the nba and they don't generate as much revenue so i mean isn't that kind of like
00:00:47.500 the same thing um i feel like the wnba isn't promoted as much as the nba because they are women
00:00:53.420 right but i mean wouldn't a male co-star that no one's ever she does not watch the w you think
00:00:57.960 she watches the wnba do you watch the wnba do you know any girl who watches the wnba name one wnba
00:01:06.420 player exactly heard of not be promoted as much and not be able to yeah i guess so is that comparable
00:01:13.220 maybe sure i mean wouldn't so then wouldn't it have more to do with performance than discrimination
00:01:18.640 oh i don't know you're like hitting me i wasn't ready i don't know oh you're right about that one
00:01:27.800 but i just feel like if they both doing the same job they deserve the same pay it doesn't matter
00:01:32.900 okay but at the same time you know then why would someone want to star in their movie
00:01:38.620 what would be the benefit of having a celebrity in your movie if they weren't gonna
00:01:45.180 you know bring more people to the theater i mean right right right that makes sense but
00:01:51.560 i mean they're both doing the same job but don't they have different value
00:01:54.800 to the to the to the project yeah but i feel like yeah you're right you're right so so shouldn't
00:02:00.460 their their pay you know reflect the value that they're bringing to the movie yeah yeah i agree
00:02:05.940 with that i feel like it depends on what parts you play doesn't that completely disprove the gender
00:02:11.200 pay gap right there you have two actors who are basically both starring and doing the same job
00:02:26.860 but they have different value because one is a celebrity and the other one's an unknown
00:02:31.760 and you're saying with the basketball well what i'm saying is when it comes to basketball right
00:02:35.520 a lot of women say that the wnba should be paid the same as the nba but none of them have ever
00:02:41.760 watched one wnba game in their whole life and they never will ah they don't but they don't generate the
00:02:47.660 same revenue so isn't that kind of like the same analogy as the celebrity getting paid more than
00:02:54.360 the no-name actor in some respect but at the end of the day i would say to advertise them more
00:03:01.740 in all respect if we look at shut up that she heard that in all respect that's her one smart
00:03:07.860 phrase nike if we look at adidas who do we see like we mostly see male his follow-up question should
00:03:15.060 have been name one wnba player chat name one name one eight percent female viewers name one like
00:03:23.760 athletes i'm trying to make opposed models but even if you advertise something more does that
00:03:30.500 necessarily mean that you know i used to do some modeling shit they don't hire me anymore maybe
00:03:35.240 because i'm ugly maybe because i say problematic problematic stuff on a regular basis the one you
00:03:40.680 know job that i had that actually had an enforced wage gap was modeling nike i'm gonna call them out
00:03:47.340 i'm gonna say i don't need to fucking like work any nda anymore nike i modeled for nike for the same
00:03:52.860 exact job girls made double of what i made why what's the difference you stand in front of a camera
00:04:01.360 you pose you're there you're hired by the same agencies women got paid double for the exact same
00:04:06.840 job nobody complained about it i could not say anything about it you just suck it up and do it
00:04:11.300 am i here saying there's a wage gap no we have different value women are objects more than men
00:04:17.100 so their values higher because they're objects they make double for the same job
00:04:21.780 you're gonna have more success i mean there are tons of businesses that fail
00:04:29.160 but there's a ton that make it and it's by advertising acting it requires you to act put a
00:04:36.620 little bit more work into it um actually read a script right read a script do all these things that
00:04:43.080 nba players don't have to really do they just practice and they just so you can't compare them
00:04:50.480 you can't compare the two well once again as far as the pay rate is concerned well once again like
00:04:56.160 i said they're both you know i mean they're both training they're both basically you know
00:05:00.200 they're both doing i mean acting whether you're a male or a female actor you're still basically
00:05:04.200 you know doing the same work but they shouldn't be the pay paid the same i don't know i'm just
00:05:10.600 saying i don't know next question and look at that the last time we're gonna make that joke
00:05:15.920 i don't think it's based off of discrimination i heard seriously look at look at look at it look at
00:05:19.940 it look at it this looks it literally looks like the tree in the background bro i think it's based
00:05:26.240 off of how long you've been at your job how well you are with your technique and how good you are at
00:05:31.980 what you do i think that's what matters do you think uh high paid hollywood actors should have
00:05:37.500 do you see their eyes you see how they're kind of realizing they're full of shit
00:05:40.480 their money redistributed so struggling actors can have a living wage
00:05:44.440 no those struggling actors need to work harder for their money if that's what they want
00:05:50.820 okay but uh it's funny how a lot of hollywood actors often talk about uh you know
00:05:57.240 discrimination socialism yeah i see
00:06:00.160 so okay um how do you solve the gender pay gap there's not a gender pay gap that's complete
00:06:06.700 bullshit nice there has been some skepticism about the gender pay gap equal pay for equal work do you
00:06:12.980 believe the wage gap is due more to sexism or productivity i think it's sexism yes okay i think
00:06:20.200 men get paid more yep it's got to be productive but why why they don't ever think past that they see
00:06:28.600 men get paid more and that's not fair okay what do you bring to the table
00:06:33.480 can you show me a job where the pay scale for men and women is different
00:06:38.120 porn okay i don't know actors and actresses oh yeah actors and actresses they'll be in the same movie
00:06:49.120 yep doing the same amount of work yeah if the wage gap exists then why would companies employ men
00:06:54.580 when it would be cheaper to hire women because companies can be sexist okay but why are they
00:07:01.520 picking gender why does it matter what you look like if the ultimate goal is money and that's like
00:07:06.500 the point that's the problem why would companies employ men when it would be cheaper to hire women
00:07:12.460 you know that is a good one hold on um they damn they probably wouldn't i mean if women are capable
00:07:26.220 of doing just as good a job and for less money wouldn't it make sense for a company to hire all
00:07:30.780 women i mean yeah if they were getting if women were getting paid less you know what is it 70 cents
00:07:36.500 on the dollar yeah companies would you know find a good deal in that yeah is there a wage gap or an
00:07:42.760 earnings gap it's got to be an earnings gap if men earn more than women overall could it possibly be
00:07:50.800 because men typically choose higher paying jobs more dangerous jobs and we're naturally more risk
00:07:56.920 taking and don't bleed once a month and don't need to take nine months off because they have kids
00:08:01.880 longer hours yep these are all facts you know i work as a truck driver i don't see
00:08:08.300 it clearly as many female truck drivers as i do male it's a dangerous job it's a long job you're driving
00:08:16.900 for hours yeah no don't women generally choose lower paying fields like education secretaries
00:08:24.340 and nursing as opposed to mass science and ditch digging yeah more how many female garbage men do
00:08:32.680 you know garbage people do you know how many thinking so so wouldn't wouldn't their pay reflect
00:08:39.780 how many female coal miners do you know like that yeah women like to work with people men like to work
00:08:45.580 with things don't women also choose to take more time off to focus on friends and family whereas men are
00:08:51.520 more likely to be devoted to work i think yeah this is also another fact you know biology of life
00:08:56.980 women have to bury a child and they have to take maternity leave so that's a very big issue for most
00:09:03.520 CEOs in the company because they can't really have that liability for an employee to take leave for such
00:09:10.660 a long time and that's one of the biggest concerns for women being paid so low is because of their it's
00:09:17.140 all it all has to do with but isn't that isn't that biology and yes it has to do with biology that's
00:09:22.120 why why should why should an employer be responsible we're upset about our biology the problem never gets
00:09:29.000 solved you're mad because of the way you're built sorry that's not my problem that's the way of the
00:09:34.720 world you need to stop being upset that we're not fundamentally equal it is what it is you bleed once
00:09:40.820 a month you need maternity leave don't be mad at your biology just feed the baby go on a picnic make
00:09:47.580 some food that's full for a woman's choice to have a kid they're not responsible but it's just the
00:09:53.760 basic uh ethics it actually is illegal to discriminate pay based on gender why aren't more women filing class
00:10:01.820 action lawsuits against companies that don't pay them equally i would say it's a lot easier to get
00:10:08.120 another job i mean i'd love to say like yeah we're gonna fight for it and we do but to the extent of a
00:10:14.440 lawsuit i mean get a new job don't don't people sue for you get way more money from the lawsuit
00:10:21.000 instead of getting a new job yeah just get the lawsuit and don't work for discrimination all the
00:10:25.300 time yeah but also i feel like it's a lot harder to for anybody to then go sue their job dude exactly
00:10:34.760 you don't want to do hard work you're that's the whole point of the wage gap you don't want to do
00:10:40.240 hard stuff to make money you'd rather i'm miss pretty secretary here instead that's why we make
00:10:47.460 more to something that happened knowing that they're gonna go through all the legal fees they
00:10:51.020 have the possibility of not then winning that case although they very much would have been
00:10:55.940 discriminated against there's not a high chance that they could win it and if they do you get a
00:11:00.900 payout pays out no accountability i'm never wrong through the staff like things like that but even
00:11:07.320 even a class action lawsuit i mean if it was happening as frequently as you hear about it
00:11:11.460 you would think that companies will be sued all the time you would think but i also don't think a lot
00:11:17.280 of people are going to go through their time to sue a company knowing that it may be because you're not
00:11:22.640 as hard working men get to the bag you complain about it might be more repercussions to them in the
00:11:29.420 end due to money and legal fees and all that okay good justification chat saying it right now women do
00:11:35.180 get more tips women can work at a pizza restaurant can work at a waitress job and because that's why
00:11:39.520 they hire more female bartenders because they're pretty they get paid more you'll make half as much
00:11:45.140 in tips as a man i also i also just think it's not talked about enough in the workplace like there's a
00:11:50.560 large stigma around discussing your pay with your co-workers because what if you do make more than
00:11:55.900 them and then they're like hey we got to break that stigma the only reason there's that stigma is so
00:12:00.840 that people the top don't have discussion between the employees and they really feel it realize their
00:12:05.740 value in the company you should talk about your salary why are you keeping it a secret just so
00:12:10.620 that you don't have an ego battle between fucking jimmy who sits in the cubicle across from you
00:12:14.920 hey like why are you getting paid more than me it's it's something that you don't generally talk
00:12:20.820 about with your co-workers like oh by the way i make this much a year you know i make this much per
00:12:26.400 paycheck it's it's not something that comes up in workplace conversation can you tell me any jobs with
00:12:30.760 the pay scale for men and women is different not off the top of my head without i can actors actors i
00:12:38.840 mean broad amount of payment but men are higher paid actors why are some industries dominated by men
00:12:45.580 and others by women oh because some genders are better at some other jobs it's that simple women
00:12:54.140 are better at being secretaries answering the phone hello men are better are playing characters
00:12:59.480 it's just movies are written for guys most of the time because men have conquests have stories it's
00:13:05.840 really difficult to write movies for women because the stories are not as interesting you've seen
00:13:09.640 queen's gambit that a netflix show where a 13 year old girl becomes a chess grandmaster
00:13:15.100 fiction that never happened but when it's a man you have to base it on a true story you can't just
00:13:22.080 make up this whole fucking you won't do that all the stories about women and movies now it's just fantasy
00:13:28.440 fiction because it's equal and representation it's not based on anything real
00:13:34.080 dang you know uh i don't know why are there more female than male strippers and prostitutes
00:13:44.460 and what does that say about because the market because why can we not talk about the market society
00:13:50.220 um that uh sex sells and uh you know the female body is more pleasurable to look at i guess
00:13:59.020 would it be possible to sell sex if men did not sexually objectify women no no that's why i'm
00:14:04.900 not complaining i'm not complaining if i didn't get objectified they don't complain when it's in
00:14:09.760 their favor they only complain when it's not i wouldn't get paid the feminism is all nonsense bro
00:14:16.920 because the only double standards they talk about are the stuff that where they're disadvantaged
00:14:20.960 but also i'm not complaining yeah give me my money that's how uh people view women okay
00:14:27.300 um why don't men complain about female strippers and prostitutes earning more than male ones
00:14:32.840 because you got to make sense like no one will take you seriously everybody will laugh at us the
00:14:40.300 way you laughed at that question that's a good question how much of our economy is driven by men
00:14:46.280 buying things to please and impress women oh that's man it's it's got to be close to 100 if not you
00:14:53.380 know in the high 90s you know would you agree that most consumer spending is geared towards women
00:14:58.200 yeah i think uh the statistics are right i think 86 percent of consumers consumer base is women
00:15:05.680 would you also agree that the media pushes a campaign of fear and consumption by exploiting
00:15:12.220 men's need for female validation yeah look at dating websites they're not there to find love
00:15:17.160 they're there there to extract as much resources out of men as possible it's it's really sad every
00:15:22.220 guy you know on tinder i spent a thousand i probably talked to some youtubers like i spent a thousand
00:15:26.220 dollars on tinder gold
00:15:27.500 it's basically become only fans so why is there so much talk about the exploitation of women
00:15:34.360 but we never talk about this exploitation of men uh it's like um like the sidey growing up thing like
00:15:41.020 you know toughen up young man or you know men don't cry or something like that
00:15:45.640 it's expected of men to front the bill finally why is there so much talk about a gender pay gap
00:15:52.300 but not a gender spend gap
00:15:54.440 um how much money has a woman spent on you that wasn't for your birthday that wasn't out of pity
00:16:04.560 or something once in a while how much have you really been spoiled you ever been flewed out by a
00:16:09.140 bitch ever you know i i sometimes i believe i could count on one hand how many times a girl's paid for
00:16:15.720 a dinner i believe women want to be men in the sense of that they want the the ambition they want
00:16:22.900 the drive that they have they want the results but results aren't given to everybody equally how
00:16:29.840 should we determine which jobs are more valuable it's about supply and demand when it comes to to
00:16:35.500 to value what's valuable so you know it's is if it's if it's cracking if it's a lot of people that
00:16:41.360 that that that want the the business whatever the job is offering then it should it should pay more
00:16:46.100 you know like mcdonald's man i think mcdonald's workers should get paid more they making all them
00:16:50.180 goddamn cheeseburgers man pay them pay them mcdonald's workers more money man women can do more than men
00:16:54.920 can in certain aspects and men can do more than women can in certain aspects so if a man is making
00:16:59.240 more it's because he's doing a job that i probably can't do they're smart and everyone in the chat is
00:17:03.700 saying only my mom has ever bought me anything they're not gonna ever pay for you they can't
00:17:09.060 mentally prepare for that so can we agree that men and women are different yes there you go
00:17:14.280 what does it mean when somebody says that's a man's job
00:17:19.420 i think in society it's men i heard a scary noise that's your job there's a spider can you kill
00:17:29.520 it that's a man's job to mean that it's like a more macho thanks for the donor you're being
00:17:34.300 problematic oh or like laborious job um society wise okay what's a woman's job a woman's job is
00:17:46.800 anything she wants to be nonsense do you hear that a woman's job is anything she wants
00:17:54.780 they're getting rid of the gender roles bro they're getting rid of it this is why i'm still on this
00:18:01.040 this is why i still got to talk about this bro i mean well wouldn't a man's job also be anything
00:18:06.100 he wants it to be then no in the same respect yeah look at her with that respect thing you think
00:18:11.300 you smart because you said respect hard work labor suck uh out and open what's a woman's job
00:18:16.940 nurturing cook clean and make sure the house is good do you think most women want to do those jobs
00:18:22.160 today no they should but do they want to nope probably not they want our power so why are men
00:18:28.160 still expected to be what women want if women are no longer encouraged to be what men want because
00:18:32.380 it's broken because the whole game is broken that's why i'm still on this chat
00:18:36.420 you need to you need to be aware of this and you just need to focus on yourself
00:18:41.700 it's the world we live in isn't that a world of double standards it is mechanics um getting your
00:18:50.260 hands dirty moving labor they want you to be bob the builder driving trucks uh the list could go on
00:19:01.240 all the shit she doesn't want to do or you can't fit in the truck why are women more concerned with
00:19:06.800 the ratio of male to female ceos as opposed to the ratio of lower paid dangerous dirty jobs done
00:19:12.860 mostly by men i think because women who want to start their own business or want to be their own ceo
00:19:17.640 are frowned upon because it's looked at that's a man's job not a woman's job um i you know it's on
00:19:24.940 the tip of my brain it's like they don't they don't even acknowledge that as um something that
00:19:30.740 makes the world go around we're in las vegas men built all of these skyscrapers roads you know
00:19:35.060 there's probably some women in there but yeah they're just invisible to that yeah you're standing
00:19:40.160 in front of the eiffel tower that was built by a man probably would you rather have a high profile
00:19:45.980 job for no pay or clean sewers for a hundred thousand dollars a year i struggle with um the smell
00:19:53.360 of poo so i think a high profile job with no pay because i struggle with the smell of poo
00:20:00.120 so i don't want to do hard things but i'm gonna cry because when you think about it it would come
00:20:05.880 with incentives you can pay your mortgage there i guess there's pros to both of them but to give
00:20:12.260 you a flat out answer um i would prefer to have the high profile job without pay because if i was
00:20:20.480 high profile i'd market myself to in all respect i would market my influence be sponsored by some
00:20:27.980 company and just keep working at it and get money get paid do more with that platform i have
00:20:35.740 i'm cleaning sewers for a hundred k man ain't no shame in my game i'm cleaning sewers there's no
00:20:41.220 question about it why more money clean no clean the sewers i'm just going to my head no i'm gonna
00:20:47.860 clean the sewers for a hundred thousand but i don't like the smell of poo thousand dollars a year
00:20:52.500 or clean sewers for a hundred thousand ew icky dollars a year
00:20:56.880 i'd rather to first one okay so wouldn't that explain why you're paid less yep yeah
00:21:06.300 because you don't want to do because girl on the left is realizing oh i'm full of shit i really don't
00:21:13.860 want to do that you don't want to do the dangerous dirty jobs no so could that possibly be why so many
00:21:19.300 women earn less money than men yep so is that based on discrimination or based on choice and choices