Stand on Guard with David Krayden - Day 10, Freedom Trial： Prosecution Continues to Fall on its Face in the Tamara Lich & Chris Barber Trial ｜ Stand on Guard Take 5

00:00:00.000 I've been here from the beginning and never left.

00:00:30.000 So, we are in a very precarious position in this country.

00:00:38.180 We need political change, but we also need to resolve to resist.

00:00:52.520 Welcome back to another Take 5 with Stand On Guard.

00:00:55.240 I'm your host, David Creighton.

00:00:57.120 And we're back with day 10 of what I am calling the Freedom Trial, the Freedom Convoy Trial

00:01:04.640 of Tamara Leach and Chris Barber.

00:01:08.460 We just completed day 10.

00:01:09.680 Believe it or not, there's been 10 days.

00:01:12.520 Originally this trial was scheduled for 16 days.

00:01:15.700 It's not going to be over in 16 days.

00:01:17.920 We just started hearing from some of the non-police witnesses for the prosecution today.

00:01:27.120 Mr. Kim Ayotte, who is the general manager of the emergency preparedness section of the

00:01:34.640 city of Ottawa.

00:01:36.640 He was on the stand.

00:01:37.580 Well, sometimes he wasn't.

00:01:39.460 He was actually asked to leave the courtroom twice by the judge so they could discuss the

00:01:43.260 matter between the prosecution and the defense.

00:01:46.640 The prosecution again seemed completely ill prepared and really their methods were questioned

00:01:53.200 by the judge, who is Justice Heather Perkins McVeigh.

00:01:58.160 And she asked the prosecution, what are you trying to achieve with this?

00:02:03.380 Because you have this city official here.

00:02:06.160 And he seems to think he's just talking about his job description.

00:02:11.680 And the defense attorney, Lawrence Greenspawn, picked up on this right away.

00:02:19.680 And he said, why is Mr. Ayotte appearing at this trial?

00:02:23.720 Why did he come to this courthouse without a single note on his person, in his possession?

00:02:29.800 Is he going to recall everything from memory?

00:02:34.480 And the judge actually mentioned this and said, how are you going to remember if the information

00:02:40.880 you're relating to us today was firsthand information that you actually garnered yourself or secondhand

00:02:47.040 information, which you were told, which becomes hearsay in any trial?

00:02:52.560 Well, and the Mr. Ayotte simply said, well, it's not something that's on the top of my head,

00:02:59.120 your honor.

00:03:00.500 And he actually said that he was under the assumption that he was there today merely to talk about

00:03:07.920 his job description.

00:03:09.980 Now, I'm wondering, I've said this in the past, the prosecution presents a gong show at times.

00:03:14.820 They don't seem to know what they want to do with their witnesses.

00:03:18.300 Clearly, if he was just there to talk about his job description, we are wasting time.

00:03:23.280 And by the afternoon, of course, he started to get into a little more detail about things.

00:03:29.200 And once again, the defense cautioned him and the court about using words like riot, because

00:03:36.320 he said, that's all we're going to see on the news tonight is that word riot.

00:03:41.100 And it's interesting how this went today, because once again, the prosecution seems to be playing

00:03:47.340 the best defense possible for Tamara Leach and Chris Barber.

00:03:51.280 I've been there just about every day.

00:03:53.720 And I have been there for some of the most difficult portions where it's quite difficult.

00:04:02.580 It is tedious at times to listen to some of the evidence that's being presented.

00:04:07.880 This is all part of the voir dire process of Canadian law.

00:04:13.020 For those of you who are not associated with it, I would read it up, read up on it when you have a chance.

00:04:19.240 It's quite interesting.

00:04:20.100 But it can be fundamentally boring if you're watching from the seats in the courtroom.

00:04:29.880 It can be very difficult.

00:04:30.900 As a reporter, it can be very difficult to watch.

00:04:33.660 But it's getting a little more interesting today.

00:04:35.380 Anyway, as I said, the prosecution continues to, in my view, screw up.

00:04:42.160 Now, interesting aside as well, Mr. Greenspawn also brought up the issue about these Ottawa residents

00:04:52.160 testifying before the court.

00:04:54.780 It's not that he's afraid of their testimony.

00:04:56.160 He's already read it.

00:04:57.640 You know, it's part of the discovery.

00:04:59.440 He's already read the testimony.

00:05:00.920 He knows what they're going to say.

00:05:03.520 But there's eight witnesses who are residents of Ottawa who are going to claim they had their

00:05:09.660 lives upended by the Freedom Convoy. 0.92

00:05:12.640 They're probably going to be talking about an occupation, a ridiculous terminology, a ridiculous 0.76

00:05:17.880 piece of terminology when describing a peaceful protest in Ottawa.

00:05:21.660 It was not like the Germans occupying Paris.

00:05:24.280 No, not at all.

00:05:25.380 But Greenspawn said again today, why are we listening to eight people that are all saying

00:05:31.840 the same thing?

00:05:32.940 But yet, none of them really took notes.

00:05:36.440 He mentioned at least one of the witnesses only answered two of the questions posed to

00:05:40.380 them by the defense.

00:05:42.200 That they're making a lot of allegations that they really can't back up.

00:05:46.280 You know, he mentioned the fact that people are talking about license plate numbers, but

00:05:51.540 they're not even sure whether those license plate numbers correspond to truckers who are

00:05:57.140 actually in the convoy, who are part of the protest.

00:06:01.160 So it's very tenuous, this whole thing.

00:06:04.100 And it's going to take days of testimony.

00:06:08.020 And it's going to require more days of testimony for the defense to respond to these witnesses

00:06:15.820 who are merely saying, hey, we had our lives upended.

00:06:20.000 Because apparently they didn't like honking, even though it's been, I think, clearly established

00:06:25.900 that the honking did not persist throughout the night.

00:06:29.000 And that both Tamara Leach and Chris Barber cautioned the truckers not to keep honking all

00:06:37.160 night long because it would be a real problem for the Ottawa residents.

00:06:44.380 It would interfere with sleep, obviously.

00:06:46.820 And the truckers had to sleep too.

00:06:48.420 So the very suggestion that they were up 24 hours, seven days a week honking their horns 0.87

00:06:52.960 is a bit ridiculous.

00:06:54.380 The trial continues. 0.91

00:06:58.060 It is quite interesting what's happening here.

00:07:00.940 I think the defense is continuing to maintain its hegemony in these procedures.

00:07:08.620 The prosecution is continuing to demonstrate it is not really equipped to present this case

00:07:15.040 very well.

00:07:16.920 It is continually upsetting the judge.

00:07:22.500 The judge said, again, today when their witness said he was just there to give a job description,

00:07:27.840 she said, oh, no, no, no.

00:07:29.880 That's what she said.

00:07:31.160 Oh, no, no, no.

00:07:32.760 That's not why you're here.

00:07:34.600 There's more to it than that.

00:07:36.440 And if he didn't understand that when he got to the courtroom today, that's a problem.

00:07:43.460 So I'm back again tomorrow.

00:07:45.080 But before I go there, before I get to the courtroom, if I get there at all tomorrow,

00:07:51.220 the million-person march is tomorrow morning, 9 a.m., Ottawa time, Vancouver time, Halifax.

00:07:58.120 It's your local time, 9 a.m.

00:08:00.420 The protest begins.

00:08:01.960 This is a one-million-person march for children.

00:08:04.960 It's for the children who are being exposed to gender ideology and this pronoun nonsense 1.00

00:08:12.440 in their schools.

00:08:14.240 Teachers' unions, not necessarily all teachers, but teachers' unions are pushing this gender

00:08:19.080 ideology upon them.

00:08:20.880 There is no such thing as mass gender dysphoria in our schools.

00:08:25.520 It's been invented.

00:08:26.460 It's been created.

00:08:27.440 It's a political problem that's been totally manufactured.

00:08:30.900 It's artificial.

00:08:31.500 But yet, the government, the provincial governments, with the exception of Saskatchewan and New

00:08:40.160 Brunswick, are pushing this agenda.

00:08:41.960 The federal government continues to push it through Justin Trudeau.

00:08:44.800 He is an advocate of everything LGBTQ+, including gender ideology.

00:08:50.680 He is pushing this agenda as strongly as he can.

00:08:53.300 And he tells everybody that if you oppose this agenda, if you don't think as a parent you

00:08:58.020 have a right to know, if your child under 16 years of age decides they want to change

00:09:03.260 their gender or change their pronouns, that you don't have a right to know.

00:09:07.480 You don't even have a right to know.

00:09:09.200 And you certainly don't have a right to demand your permission to grant that.

00:09:15.500 And this is what we're up against.

00:09:16.960 And we're expecting a counter-protest tomorrow that has been spawned and, as they say to

00:09:23.520 themselves, co-conspired by the Ontario public unions, as well as others, who all got together

00:09:32.300 last week on a Zoom call to say that they're going to do everything in their power to disrupt

00:09:36.760 this protest.

00:09:39.280 They don't think parents have a right to raise their children.

00:09:44.660 They don't think the parents matter.

00:09:47.360 And they have the gall, they have the nerve to suggest parental rights have something to

00:09:52.400 do with fascism.

00:09:54.120 When, of course, the obverse is exactly true.

00:09:58.540 Fascism doesn't respect parental rights.

00:10:01.920 Fascism is a state where the children can tell on their parents and get them sent to jail

00:10:06.740 because the family is decimated.

00:10:08.880 The family is destroyed and only the state matters.

00:10:13.840 And that's what these teachers unions are pushing. 1.00

00:10:16.680 So I think we might have stopped this counter-protest because we've embarrassed these teachers unions

00:10:22.640 and show them up for what they are, a bunch of LGBTQ activists who are taking money from 0.90

00:10:30.480 their membership.

00:10:31.460 They're taking a salary for not doing their job on behalf of the members, but doing political

00:10:37.400 activity.

00:10:38.880 And organizing counter-protest to parental rights marches.

00:10:44.340 That's what these people are up to.

00:10:46.420 We're going to talk about that tomorrow at the march.

00:10:49.180 We're going to talk about the fact that these public service unions are actually not representing

00:10:59.360 their membership.

00:11:00.260 And I have received many messages on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, emails from

00:11:10.640 parents who belong to these unions that were present at this Zoom call.

00:11:15.680 And they say, that union doesn't represent me.

00:11:18.220 It doesn't represent my values.

00:11:20.440 I'm not some sort of far-right ultra-conservative because I think I have a right to raise my children

00:11:28.140 myself.

00:11:29.300 And they are condemning these unions.

00:11:32.480 And they're condemning that union leadership, which is not leadership.

00:11:36.480 And they're condemning the fact that these people want to upset, disrupt, stop a peaceful protest

00:11:44.640 tomorrow, September 20th.

00:11:47.480 They're saying no.

00:11:49.480 And that's what this march is about.

00:11:50.900 Enough is enough from Justin Trudeau and his identity politics.

00:11:54.280 Enough is enough from Justin Trudeau and the provincial premiers who back him with their gender 1.00

00:12:01.340 ideology, we want equality under the law, not special identity politics for every subdivided group

00:12:12.580 in this country.

00:12:13.540 And that's also what this march is about.

00:12:15.780 So be there tomorrow, September 20th.

00:12:19.240 In Ottawa, it's on Parliament Hill.

00:12:21.880 Other places, it's at your provincial legislature or your local mayor's office, your town hall.

00:12:29.300 9 a.m.

00:12:31.220 Your local time, not Eastern time.

00:12:34.160 It's your local time.

00:12:36.800 I look forward to hearing that we not only had a million people marching on Wednesday,

00:12:42.920 but we exceeded that number by all expectations.

00:12:47.920 It's going to be a marvelous day.

00:12:49.540 And the weather in Ottawa is going to be sunny and warm.

00:12:55.040 So thank you for listening again today.

00:12:56.960 I'll be back again tomorrow to tell you how the march went, what happened, more about the freedom trial

00:13:04.580 of Tamara Leach and Chris Barber, and all beyond that until we hope.

00:13:12.740 These two protesters who cared so much about freedom that they put their freedom on the line for all Canadians

00:13:21.520 to end COVID mandates, they are vindicated and they walk free.

00:13:29.740 Thank you for listening today.

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Stand on Guard with David Krayden - September 20, 2023

Day 10, Freedom Trial： Prosecution Continues to Fall on its Face in the Tamara Lich & Chris Barber Trial ｜ Stand on Guard Take 5

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