Stand on Guard with David Krayden - August 20, 2025


Poilievre REJECTS Leftward Push from Media ｜ Stand on Guard


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The Prime Minister lied, and his minions continue to lie, and we need a political change. But we also need to resolve to resist the temptation to take a "left turn" in the face of all the lies.

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00:00:00.000 Welcome back to another episode of Stand on Guard.
00:00:05.100 I'm your host, David Creighton, broadcasting to you live from Ottawa.
00:00:07.680 Thank you for joining me today.
00:00:09.720 Yeah, we had some difficulties this morning, a few technical problems, but we're back.
00:00:14.220 I think we've got a great show for you.
00:00:16.700 When we come back, some of the anomalies, if you will, in the news,
00:00:21.100 before we get into my main thesis today, which is,
00:00:25.680 Pure Polyev will not be taking a left turn.
00:00:28.520 Now, you might argue he's already too far left, but he's not going any farther.
00:00:33.440 And the mainstream media is actually divided over this.
00:00:37.120 And we'll find out what I mean by that in mere moments.
00:00:42.560 The prime minister lied and his minions continue to lie.
00:00:51.840 We need a political change.
00:00:54.840 But we also need to resolve to resist.
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00:01:22.480 I really, I beg of you.
00:01:24.360 Please!
00:01:24.800 Because YouTube won't share this station.
00:01:27.720 And we've had that problem from day one.
00:01:29.540 But we keep fighting back.
00:01:30.780 We keep inching, inching upwards.
00:01:33.620 Maybe not at the rate of some other stations.
00:01:35.520 But we're making it.
00:01:37.360 Despite huge YouTube suppression.
00:01:40.200 And why?
00:01:42.100 Could be a number of things.
00:01:43.960 But, hey, I don't focus on the negative.
00:01:45.900 I focus on the positive.
00:01:47.020 That's what we have to do.
00:01:48.060 Otherwise, might as well give up.
00:01:49.800 Before we get to no left turn, what do I mean by that?
00:01:53.840 Here's an incredible story from a black box reporter.
00:01:57.200 And somebody's getting $2,000 an hour on how the cabinet, the Carney cabinet, needs to talk to right-wing, so-called right-wing Republicans.
00:02:10.900 Or the Trump administration.
00:02:12.640 Or mega individual.
00:02:13.780 Tips on how to talk to the U.S.
00:02:15.100 $2,000 an hour.
00:02:16.600 Some consultant is getting.
00:02:18.320 Hey, I could do that job.
00:02:19.580 I could tell them how to talk to common-sense, principled conservatives.
00:02:24.500 Stop lying.
00:02:26.580 Unlike the liberals.
00:02:29.500 That might be a good start, Melanie.
00:02:32.800 Maybe just understand that these are people who actually largely believe what they're saying.
00:02:40.040 Yeah, I know.
00:02:40.480 There's just a lot of chicanery going on with rhinos in the United States. 1.00
00:02:43.400 But overall, I think the Trump team is a lot more acquainted with the truth than the Carney team ever will be.
00:02:55.120 And of course, people are finally beginning to notice that Mark Carney was conspicuous by his absence.
00:03:01.080 But this is incredible.
00:03:03.080 This is incredible.
00:03:04.420 CBC is actually trying to pretend that Mark Carney was really there, although he wasn't.
00:03:10.680 So CBC is doing their part, and this is from Ryan Gerritsen, who always has some great posts up, doing its part to make it look like Carney is still important in the world stage this morning.
00:03:22.500 They're actually showing a screenshot of Carney as proof that he's in some important virtual meeting with some of the leaders who were at the White House yesterday.
00:03:29.040 Who gave them that?
00:03:30.880 Clearly, the prime minister's office. 0.98
00:03:32.560 This is our state-run media blatantly protecting his reputation, covering his ASS.
00:03:40.020 Yeah, that's exactly what's going on here, because Mark Carney was conspicuous by his absence.
00:03:47.060 And I think I'm probably the only outlet that's actually explained why Donald Trump didn't want Mark Carney there this week. 0.67
00:03:54.300 Because Mark Carney once again made the stupid decision of putting policies that Donald Trump doesn't like in Trump's face literally days before a meeting was scheduled to happen.
00:04:07.280 Last time he did this, Carney announced he was going to recognize Palestine, like literally 48 hours before Donald Trump makes a decision on tariffs. 0.98
00:04:16.200 Of course, Donald Trump makes a decision that is not good for Canada.
00:04:20.280 Did Mark Carney think he was going to be at this all-important meeting of the European Union?
00:04:25.920 And remember what Mark Carney likes to say.
00:04:30.420 Mark, you look like you were about to.
00:04:32.340 Yeah, I was a tell.
00:04:33.460 As a European, you know, as a.
00:04:35.220 As a European, I am a European, actually.
00:04:37.040 Oh, you are?
00:04:37.660 Yeah, yeah, an Irish citizen.
00:04:38.860 Yeah, so there you go.
00:04:40.040 Well, I'm speaking as a European.
00:04:42.800 I like to say falling.
00:04:45.520 Is a picture worth a thousand words?
00:04:47.600 Well, that one is.
00:04:48.240 There is European Mark Carney sitting at the World Economic Forum.
00:04:52.820 There it is right behind him, the backdrop, WEF, World Economic Forum.
00:04:56.840 I'm a European, he says.
00:04:58.440 Yeah, he is.
00:04:59.020 He's actually, he has citizenship in the UK.
00:05:02.840 He probably still does.
00:05:04.220 He said he was going to renounce it, but I doubt it very much.
00:05:08.460 But that, of course, is Mark Carney, the European, who should be part of the European Union.
00:05:14.220 He should be there.
00:05:15.240 Eric, Donald Trump doesn't want him there because Mark Carney intentionally started negotiating with Sweden for potentially buying fighter aircraft, the Gripen fighter aircraft from Sweden, which we need like a hole in the head.
00:05:29.500 We have to follow through and buy more joint strike fighters, the F-35.
00:05:34.000 That's what we've already got, 16 of them.
00:05:35.960 We need to finish the order, and because it's interoperability, and this is why we need the F-35.
00:05:43.180 I know some people out there say, well, it's not the best fighter.
00:05:46.160 It is the fighter that all services that fly aircraft in the United States are flying.
00:05:53.140 Royal Air Force, Royal Australian Air Force all fly the F-35, and that's who we train with.
00:05:59.040 That's who we operate with.
00:06:00.300 Those are the countries we are most liable to be flying with.
00:06:04.180 I know.
00:06:04.740 I was in the Air Force for 10 years, always down with the U.S. Navy, flying with their F-18s in those days.
00:06:10.120 Well, that was a long time ago.
00:06:12.180 They're flying F-35s now, off carriers.
00:06:16.280 United States Marines is flying F-35.
00:06:18.360 United States Air Force is flying the F-35.
00:06:21.740 Yeah.
00:06:21.960 And Canada cannot be a country of two fighter jets. 1.00
00:06:25.980 This is absolute idiocy. 1.00
00:06:29.380 All right. 1.00
00:06:30.800 Here's a great one from my good friend, Mark Nixon.
00:06:34.540 Canada named most positive leader in the world stage. 1.00
00:06:37.980 Well, most positively stupid, I guess, but incredible. 1.00
00:06:41.920 Who comes with this? 1.00
00:06:43.480 Who voted, who elected Canada as the most positive leader on the world stage?
00:06:48.320 Yeah, that's enough bedtime fairy tales, folks.
00:06:54.300 Now, this one, this is incredible.
00:06:56.260 Now we have the autonomous self-government nation of Métis in Saskatchewan.
00:07:03.300 And get this.
00:07:04.460 Thank you, Jennifer L., for bringing this one to our attention.
00:07:09.220 All right.
00:07:09.780 Buckle up for this one. 0.73
00:07:10.700 The Métis Nation in Saskatchewan is a recognized self-government in the eyes of the federal government.
00:07:15.060 They are funded to the tune of a hundred plus million dollars a year to operate.
00:07:19.720 And their CEO, the honcho, the grand poobah, he's a former federal public servant.
00:07:26.780 And he used to work for what used to be called Indigenous and Northern Affairs.
00:07:30.960 I think they changed the name again.
00:07:33.000 He used to be Indian and Northern Affairs.
00:07:34.840 Trudeau changed it to Indigenous Peoples and Northern Affairs.
00:07:38.120 I think Carney's changed it too.
00:07:39.640 And I couldn't be bothered looking it up.
00:07:41.260 But that is incredible.
00:07:43.280 So a former bureaucrat is now grand poobah of this self-autonomizing Métis Nation. 0.97
00:07:52.920 Incredible.
00:07:53.880 Yes.
00:07:54.160 And as I said, thanks again, Ryan, for putting this one up.
00:07:57.720 There's the group photo.
00:08:00.060 Yeah.
00:08:02.200 They're all there except for Mark Carney's not there.
00:08:06.500 Now, Mark Carney, the European, wasn't invited.
00:08:09.260 I wonder why.
00:08:09.960 Yeah, it's got something to do with fighter jets.
00:08:11.580 And the increasing animosity that Donald Trump has towards Mark Carney.
00:08:17.760 So, that's where we are with that.
00:08:22.100 Here's a great one, Viva Frye.
00:08:24.620 From Viva Frye.
00:08:26.240 I didn't...
00:08:27.320 This...
00:08:28.200 And he uses this word that I raised a couple of weeks ago, anarcho-tyranny.
00:08:32.880 That's a state, of course, where the government goes after its political opponents more than it goes after real criminals.
00:08:41.380 So, Viva Frye, David Frye, says, this is Canada.
00:08:44.760 The intruder broke into a man's house with a weapon.
00:08:47.100 Now, the homeowner, the homeowner faces charges of assault and narco-tyranny.
00:08:53.160 Do you believe it?
00:08:55.460 Yeah, of course, I believe it.
00:08:57.520 But that's the kind of country we live in.
00:08:59.400 And what else?
00:09:00.880 Look at this.
00:09:02.640 Ottawa moves ahead with gun confiscation plan targeting legal gun owners.
00:09:07.120 This one from Juno News.
00:09:08.140 So, not only are you guilty of assault if you defend your property, your family, and your life from an intruder who comes in at 3 o'clock in the morning, or was it 2 o'clock?
00:09:22.760 Well, regardless, it doesn't matter.
00:09:26.140 He was uninvited.
00:09:28.000 He came in to steal your property.
00:09:30.740 Perhaps potentially injure somebody.
00:09:34.300 And you're not allowed to defend yourself.
00:09:36.560 I'm not allowed to defend my family if somebody comes into my home.
00:09:41.400 And, by the way, I'm not going to have a gun to do it because the government's taking my guns away.
00:09:46.180 And where are they going?
00:09:47.480 Critics raise eyebrows over a plan to send prohibited firearms to Ukraine in a war effort.
00:09:52.740 You remember that?
00:09:53.860 The government's collecting your firearm so they can send it to Ukraine.
00:09:59.420 And Ukraine can then sell it on the black market to, what, the Mexican cartels?
00:10:04.320 Yes, they'll probably end up with them.
00:10:05.760 Or some other terrorist group in Eastern Europe.
00:10:09.840 Well, that's exactly what Ukraine does with a lot of the weapons.
00:10:13.020 They sell them on the black market.
00:10:15.360 We give them to them, gratis, free of charge.
00:10:18.780 Ukraine sells them on the black market.
00:10:21.160 And we are the dupes. 1.00
00:10:23.640 We are the idiots who put up with this. 1.00
00:10:26.660 Canadian taxpayers are saddled with all of this billions of dollars. 1.00
00:10:30.700 Carney wants to give another $2.2 billion to Ukraine.
00:10:33.940 I wouldn't be surprised if he does it today.
00:10:36.820 And it goes into that black hill, or that black hole, excuse me, of Kiev.
00:10:42.180 It goes into that bottomless pit of that corrupt Ukrainian government where the president and everybody else in his government are lining their pockets with foreign cash. 0.97
00:10:53.100 And I know it's disgusting.
00:10:55.440 By the way, if you have a chance to read this article about Matt and Nicole Alexander, I interviewed Matt last week.
00:11:06.220 It got 5,000 views.
00:11:08.260 And nobody really got to see it because it was totally submerged, not suppressed, submerged on social media.
00:11:18.840 So I'm going to try it again yesterday.
00:11:21.260 I used his interview with me and my interview with Marty Moore of the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms as the basis of a Substack article.
00:11:29.620 I encourage you to read this today.
00:11:31.380 I really do.
00:11:32.300 I encourage you to read this because this is the state of freedom in this country where teachers can be fired, even though they were considered to be some of the best teachers at the school.
00:11:47.380 They were actually people.
00:11:49.360 Matt Alexander was actually designated as the principal when the principal was traveling or away.
00:11:58.060 Matt Alexander filled in.
00:11:59.760 So obviously he had the confidence of his school and his school board, but his son happened to be Josh Alexander.
00:12:06.840 And Josh Alexander objected to male students using female students' bathrooms at his auto area school.
00:12:13.720 And Matt's wife really wasn't too enthusiastic about Pride season or Pride month at the school.
00:12:22.980 So they had to be fired over that.
00:12:25.300 But that's the that's the state of freedom, not the state of that's the state of non-freedom in Canada.
00:12:32.000 Now, I want to get into into the Polly of segment here before we we end with where Donald Trump is going with Ukraine.
00:12:40.340 And I think this is actually quite brilliant.
00:12:43.080 But let's listen to Peter Polly for a minute in his victory speech.
00:12:46.900 I think he really, as I said yesterday, I think he really set the state for where he wants to go as leader of the Conservative Party and official opposition leader, which will be in a matter of probably a week.
00:13:00.640 Battle River Crowfoot.
00:13:03.060 They're the kind of what you see is what you get.
00:13:06.720 Give you the shirt off their back.
00:13:09.440 Tell it like it is.
00:13:11.040 Common sense people.
00:13:11.920 They reinforce I love you, too.
00:13:14.860 Thank you very much.
00:13:16.320 I love you.
00:13:22.020 And they reinforced a lot of lessons that all of us in politics have to learn and relearn and relearn again.
00:13:30.160 Humility and hard work.
00:13:33.260 Loyalty and love.
00:13:35.120 You see, the people in these communities, they fight their own battles, but they're always ready to stop and help a neighbor or a friend.
00:13:43.760 They know how to stretch a dollar.
00:13:45.900 And most of all, they know, in the words of the great Paul Harvey, how to bail together a family with the soft, strong bonds of sharing.
00:13:57.860 They reminded me of all of these things, and they also reminded me that the road to success is never a straight line.
00:14:05.820 And most of all, you should never give up in hard times.
00:14:09.560 That whenever hardship strikes, you need to stand up and keep on going.
00:14:14.920 And if you care about something, you don't give up on it when things get difficult or you suffer a setback.
00:14:21.340 These stories that were on the faces of the people I met, the woman suffering from cancer, who had just overcome days of radiation treatment,
00:14:34.000 who showed up at my town hall in Stetler to tell me to keep going.
00:14:40.700 I say to her, you don't give up, so I don't give up.
00:14:44.500 I say to her, you don't give up, so I don't give up.
00:14:57.860 That's what we need to hear more of from, if you're polio. 0.53
00:15:02.640 I met in the same town who told me she also works as a teacher and a ranch hand,
00:15:07.320 but has no money left at the end of the month somehow having three jobs.
00:15:10.800 Because she doesn't give up, I won't give up.
00:15:13.500 Or Patty. 0.97
00:15:17.200 Patty, a female prison guard who works at the Drumheller Penich Entry 1.00
00:15:22.340 and who was tied up and viciously assaulted by a violent criminal
00:15:27.940 and told me that she wasn't afraid.
00:15:31.820 Of course, if you saw the segment I put on a couple of weeks ago, maybe three weeks ago now,
00:15:38.300 Pierre Pauliev was talking to that prison guard from Drumheller,
00:15:41.140 which is a medium security prison, right?
00:15:44.440 So how do you get tied up and tortured at a medium security prison?
00:15:49.200 And this is the same prison, of course, where the prisoners are getting drugs
00:15:52.560 and paraphernalia, probably porn, delivered to their cells, to the cell window by drones.
00:16:00.900 This is the Drumheller medium security prison that Pierre Pauliev is talking about here.
00:16:07.240 Just incredible.
00:16:08.840 That's the state of our criminal justice system in Canada.
00:16:12.300 I tell you, if Pauliev is serious about this, and I hope he is,
00:16:15.700 I hope he wants to reform, improve, better our criminal justice system.
00:16:21.580 He's got his work cut out for him because he's going to be coming up
00:16:25.440 and butting heads with a deep state that likes it this way.
00:16:29.740 Because she was too busy thinking about the job that she had to do
00:16:33.020 to protect her fellow prison guards.
00:16:35.760 My message to her is, you don't give up, so I don't give up.
00:16:39.780 To Bill Bauer, to Bill Bauer, who turned 100 years old in Acme.
00:16:49.120 He was born and raised in a sod hut in rural Saskatchewan
00:16:53.460 and lived through the Dust Bowl and the Depression,
00:16:57.160 all to move to Alberta and start generation after generation of family
00:17:01.900 here in this wonderful region.
00:17:04.200 Because he doesn't give up, I don't give up.
00:17:07.060 To the great people of the special areas
00:17:10.240 whose ancestors were told a century ago,
00:17:13.920 including Damien's great-grandparents,
00:17:16.720 that they'd never be able to farm on that land.
00:17:19.780 Too tough and too dry.
00:17:22.020 And yet, on the homestead signs that you drive by on the highway,
00:17:26.260 those old names are still there
00:17:28.120 and their great-great-grandchildren
00:17:30.480 are still making those fields blossom.
00:17:33.920 They never gave up, so I will never give up.
00:17:37.240 To the great...
00:17:38.240 Yeah, I always say,
00:17:44.420 Polyev was auto-washed when he came to Ottawa 21 years ago.
00:17:47.540 And of course, that means to become part of the Ottawa establishment.
00:17:50.960 Is it possible to be Alberta-washed?
00:17:54.180 Has that by-election made Pierre Polyev into the person he was
00:17:59.380 when he left Alberta 21 years ago?
00:18:02.200 He was a fairly principled conservative in those days.
00:18:06.440 Has this experience going door-to-door meeting real people again.
00:18:10.980 Meeting the real Albertans,
00:18:12.780 80% of whom voted for him in that writing,
00:18:16.840 those who voted.
00:18:17.560 And the turnout was very high.
00:18:19.340 And we'll find out this in a minute.
00:18:20.540 Did that experience really benefit Pierre Polyev
00:18:25.100 in terms of getting back to who he really is?
00:18:29.020 Getting back to reality.
00:18:30.400 Understanding who real people are.
00:18:33.140 They're not the bureaucrats in Ottawa.
00:18:35.500 Those aren't real people.
00:18:37.040 Even though we have more people working for the federal government
00:18:39.760 than any other sector in the economy right now.
00:18:42.620 More people working in the public sector
00:18:44.420 than working in the private sector.
00:18:46.720 in any single instance in the private sector.
00:18:51.580 This is absolutely outrageous.
00:18:54.180 But how is the mainstream media responding
00:18:56.680 to Pierre Polyev's victory?
00:18:59.200 Okay, nobody is saying,
00:19:00.480 oh, sorry, 80.4%.
00:19:02.060 That's not high enough.
00:19:04.020 He should have gotten 85% or 90%.
00:19:05.900 Nobody's saying that, okay?
00:19:08.000 I'm glad to see that.
00:19:09.540 I'm glad to hear that 0.99
00:19:10.380 because that would not only be stupid 1.00
00:19:12.140 but completely irresponsible. 1.00
00:19:14.600 Yes, he won.
00:19:15.360 And he won almost as large
00:19:18.080 as Damian Couric did
00:19:19.480 in the last federal election.
00:19:21.500 Damian got 83%.
00:19:23.160 Pierre Polyev almost 81%.
00:19:25.360 And yours truly was completely dead on
00:19:28.040 when I said Polyev would win 80%.
00:19:30.200 And I joked about that yesterday
00:19:31.580 because I'm rarely ever right
00:19:35.180 in my political prophecies
00:19:37.360 or my political predictions.
00:19:39.780 I've been wrong so many times.
00:19:41.820 I'm not afraid to admit that.
00:19:43.500 But yeah, I was wrong.
00:19:45.360 So what the mainstream media
00:19:46.460 is largely saying,
00:19:47.780 okay, Pierre won.
00:19:50.840 But it's a lesson.
00:19:54.280 Oh, I'm sorry.
00:19:55.220 I didn't get the lesson there
00:19:56.300 because during the campaign,
00:19:58.860 Polyev said a lot of the things
00:20:00.320 he used to say
00:20:01.120 when he was being a principal conservative
00:20:04.120 as the leadership candidate
00:20:05.860 for the party in 2022
00:20:09.360 when he won the leadership
00:20:12.140 of the Conservative Party of Canada.
00:20:15.600 He was sounding a lot like that Pierre Polyev.
00:20:18.880 The Pierre Polyev who brought coffee and donuts
00:20:21.840 to the Freedom Convoy
00:20:22.760 and celebrated what the Freedom Convoy was doing.
00:20:24.960 He was sounding more like that.
00:20:26.920 However, folk,
00:20:28.820 some of the mainstream media are saying,
00:20:30.520 sorry, Pierre Polyev's got to change his tone.
00:20:33.220 He's got to sound more like a grown-up.
00:20:36.320 Really?
00:20:36.640 I thought he did.
00:20:37.480 He's got to sound less combative,
00:20:39.980 less hostile,
00:20:41.080 more of a gentleman.
00:20:42.260 He has to join the gentleman's club,
00:20:44.780 the country club in Ottawa.
00:20:46.880 No one has Parliament Hill.
00:20:48.160 He has to join the country club
00:20:49.960 and be a little more friendly to Mark Carney.
00:20:53.380 Be a little more respectful of the Prime Minister.
00:20:55.960 And policy-wise,
00:20:57.520 don't talk about those hard-edged conservative policies.
00:21:02.080 Moderate.
00:21:03.080 Move to the left.
00:21:04.540 And you can hear CBC do this right here.
00:21:06.440 This is incredible.
00:21:07.420 People in Battle River, Crowfoot
00:21:09.480 have elected a new member of Parliament.
00:21:12.380 Conservative leader Pierre Polyev
00:21:13.880 has won the federal by-election
00:21:15.700 and will once again have a seat in Ottawa.
00:21:19.140 CTV's Evan Kenney joins us in studio.
00:21:21.940 Now, Evan, this was a high-profile race
00:21:24.440 that could influence Polyev's political future.
00:21:27.820 That's why I say,
00:21:28.800 sometimes you can't tell the difference
00:21:30.060 between CBC and CTV these days
00:21:32.180 because they're both talking the same way.
00:21:34.600 How does this help his case
00:21:35.780 to stay on as Conservative leader?
00:21:38.500 Brendan, one political analyst believes
00:21:40.480 Polyev getting back into Parliament 1.00
00:21:42.320 is just the first step.
00:21:43.820 Now, he has to make more than just Albertans
00:21:47.080 and his rioting believe
00:21:48.240 he's the right man for the job.
00:21:51.000 Thank you very much.
00:21:54.440 Pierre Polyev is heading back
00:21:56.220 to the House of Commons.
00:21:57.560 The Conservative leader ran away
00:21:59.300 with the federal by-election
00:22:00.600 in Battle River, Crowfoot,
00:22:02.660 earning more than 80% of the vote.
00:22:04.700 No, I'm not surprised at all.
00:22:06.380 He did the work.
00:22:07.600 He was to every rural area in his riding.
00:22:11.200 I'm very disappointed and shocked at that.
00:22:14.160 I knew, uh, I felt that he would probably win,
00:22:17.080 but I didn't think he would, uh,
00:22:18.480 have a commanding win.
00:22:20.100 That's who we wanted to begin with, right?
00:22:22.200 While he's the man more than 40,000 people
00:22:24.700 in Alberta wanted as their MP,
00:22:26.900 he'll have to show Conservatives
00:22:28.380 across the country
00:22:29.540 Canadians want him
00:22:30.960 as the next Prime Minister.
00:22:33.380 Sorry, but didn't he do that
00:22:35.300 three years ago?
00:22:37.300 Didn't he appeal to Conservatives?
00:22:39.280 He won overwhelmingly,
00:22:40.500 and it wasn't a rigged race,
00:22:41.840 unlike Mark Carney's,
00:22:43.160 which certainly appeared
00:22:44.080 to be a rigged race.
00:22:46.080 And I thought he proved
00:22:47.860 to Conservatives across the country
00:22:49.300 at that time.
00:22:49.900 He was the leader of the party.
00:22:52.020 And who exactly do they think
00:22:54.580 is going to come in here
00:22:56.160 and just replace a guy
00:22:57.300 who's been in the job
00:22:58.020 for three years?
00:23:00.340 Clearly, this is all
00:23:02.160 CBC wishful thinking
00:23:04.840 that we have another Liberal Party,
00:23:08.200 another red Tory party in Canada.
00:23:10.500 They love it that way.
00:23:12.980 The next step is going to be
00:23:14.760 the campaigning it is
00:23:16.560 between now and when Parliament resumes
00:23:18.200 and how he conducts himself.
00:23:21.000 He received fewer votes
00:23:22.580 than Damien Couric,
00:23:23.780 who won the riding
00:23:24.820 in the spring election,
00:23:26.160 then stepped down
00:23:26.980 so Polyev could run.
00:23:28.200 The Conservative leader
00:23:29.720 will face an automatic
00:23:31.140 leadership review
00:23:32.100 at the party's convention
00:23:33.520 in January.
00:23:34.780 That's probably enough
00:23:36.360 to at least avoid
00:23:38.160 adding questions
00:23:39.060 to his suitability
00:23:40.740 for the leadership.
00:23:42.580 Cheers!
00:23:44.760 Independent candidate
00:23:46.200 Bonnie Critchley
00:23:47.120 is toasting to her efforts.
00:23:49.040 She finished second,
00:23:50.080 earning 10% of the vote.
00:23:51.600 My entire purpose
00:23:52.860 when I started
00:23:54.480 to right now
00:23:56.040 has been to tell
00:23:57.600 Monsieur Polyev
00:23:58.400 that he is not allowed
00:23:59.320 to just walk in
00:24:00.520 and use us as a tool
00:24:02.560 and then disappear back to Ottawa.
00:24:04.820 Critchley wants to see Polyev 0.76
00:24:06.360 back in Battle River Crowfoot
00:24:08.180 when he's not campaigning
00:24:09.760 and bringing the riding's
00:24:11.240 concerns to Ottawa.
00:24:13.180 Polyev says
00:24:14.100 once Parliament is back,
00:24:15.640 his party is proposing
00:24:16.820 a Canadian Sovereignty Act
00:24:18.600 that in part
00:24:19.600 would legalize pipeline construction
00:24:21.380 and mine approvals
00:24:22.640 and eliminate
00:24:23.520 the industrial carbon tax.
00:24:27.600 But
00:24:28.520 he's going to have to be
00:24:30.380 nicer.
00:24:32.980 So here's 0.99
00:24:33.960 another take
00:24:34.960 from CTV.
00:24:37.180 And I find this interesting
00:24:38.020 because
00:24:38.480 Bassey Capella's
00:24:39.560 host of
00:24:41.460 Question Period
00:24:42.940 on the weekend
00:24:43.500 and she has her
00:24:44.140 own show as well.
00:24:46.900 Generally
00:24:47.480 fair
00:24:48.860 to conservatives
00:24:49.920 and fair
00:24:50.720 to liberals.
00:24:52.180 I don't know
00:24:52.880 how, you know,
00:24:53.440 I don't know
00:24:53.980 her at all.
00:24:55.560 I've never been on her show.
00:24:56.700 I've never even talked to her.
00:24:57.920 I've never even emailed her.
00:24:59.280 I know a lot of the Ottawa
00:25:00.320 Press Corps,
00:25:00.860 but I don't know
00:25:01.520 Bassey Capella.
00:25:02.160 But I think she can be
00:25:03.100 generally
00:25:04.040 and genuinely
00:25:05.180 fair at times.
00:25:06.460 And her analysis here,
00:25:07.600 and she
00:25:07.860 said,
00:25:09.260 well,
00:25:09.480 I'm not really offering analysis,
00:25:11.000 but yes,
00:25:11.400 she is.
00:25:12.180 I think it's actually quite good.
00:25:13.660 And let's listen to this.
00:25:15.240 Bassey Capella
00:25:15.900 is standing by
00:25:16.800 in Ottawa
00:25:17.520 with more
00:25:18.400 this morning.
00:25:19.300 Bassey,
00:25:19.760 good morning.
00:25:20.320 Good to see you.
00:25:21.080 So this was a victory
00:25:23.100 for Polyev
00:25:24.000 that was pretty much
00:25:24.900 guaranteed.
00:25:25.720 Nonetheless,
00:25:26.360 it is a big hurdle
00:25:27.300 that he has now overcome.
00:25:30.140 Yeah,
00:25:30.580 it's an enormous hurdle.
00:25:32.060 Marcia,
00:25:32.360 it's great to see you as well.
00:25:33.480 And I think even
00:25:34.220 if we take our cues
00:25:35.140 from what Mr. Polyev
00:25:36.840 was saying
00:25:37.460 and even the kind of how,
00:25:39.380 like the demeanor,
00:25:41.280 the enthusiasm,
00:25:43.580 you could almost see
00:25:45.380 the weight
00:25:46.660 of not having a seat
00:25:47.900 in the House of Commons
00:25:48.900 shed from him.
00:25:49.880 And maybe,
00:25:51.440 I don't know
00:25:51.760 what the right word
00:25:52.360 is to describe it,
00:25:52.980 like more confidence,
00:25:54.040 more, you know,
00:25:55.740 certainty, I guess,
00:25:56.940 in what his future looks like,
00:25:58.200 at least in the near term,
00:26:00.320 versus what it has been
00:26:01.700 since the general election.
00:26:03.220 There are still
00:26:03.880 a number of tests ahead
00:26:05.060 for his leadership,
00:26:05.940 but this was a big hurdle.
00:26:07.740 It's cleared.
00:26:08.640 The conservatives
00:26:09.080 I'm speaking to
00:26:10.060 just want to put it
00:26:10.860 in the rearview mirror,
00:26:12.120 focus instead on,
00:26:13.640 you know,
00:26:13.860 the opposition
00:26:14.600 that they will form,
00:26:16.700 that they will constitute
00:26:17.740 when the House of Commons
00:26:18.760 returns and then ultimately
00:26:20.060 that party convention
00:26:21.020 in January in Calgary
00:26:22.080 and the leadership review
00:26:23.080 that through the rules
00:26:24.640 of the party,
00:26:25.560 he will face then.
00:26:26.880 He will face then.
00:26:27.620 So does the victory
00:26:28.400 last night in Alberta
00:26:29.700 help secure him as leader?
00:26:32.020 I mean,
00:26:32.220 January seems like
00:26:33.000 an awful long way away,
00:26:35.160 but just curious,
00:26:36.840 does it help him
00:26:37.740 in the eyes
00:26:38.180 of the conservatives
00:26:38.860 who perhaps were thinking
00:26:40.560 twice about Pualiev?
00:26:42.040 Yeah, I think so.
00:26:44.360 It's a great question.
00:26:45.140 I don't know for sure.
00:26:46.840 A lot can happen
00:26:47.460 between now and then,
00:26:48.420 but I do think it's fair
00:26:49.580 to give him his due.
00:26:50.920 Yesterday,
00:26:51.480 the conversation was
00:26:52.400 what would the margin
00:26:53.040 of victory look like?
00:26:54.180 Would he be able to secure
00:26:55.300 as wide,
00:26:56.880 as sorry,
00:26:57.620 as perfunctory
00:26:58.120 a win as Damian Couric,
00:27:00.220 who stepped aside
00:27:00.960 for Pualiev,
00:27:02.020 did in the general election?
00:27:03.420 And he did.
00:27:04.260 He won by a very,
00:27:05.620 very, very decisive majority,
00:27:07.320 by a huge swath
00:27:08.740 of people in that riding.
00:27:10.340 And I think it's fair
00:27:11.140 to give him his due
00:27:11.960 for that.
00:27:12.600 And I think that just the message
00:27:15.260 that sends
00:27:16.060 to conservative supporters
00:27:17.360 is that the base of support
00:27:19.200 for a Pualiev-led
00:27:20.760 conservative party,
00:27:22.180 particularly in this case
00:27:23.520 in Alberta,
00:27:24.240 but perhaps in other places
00:27:25.540 where they did secure
00:27:26.400 a lot of support
00:27:27.000 in the last election,
00:27:28.060 is still there, right?
00:27:29.600 It's still solid.
00:27:30.740 It's still coming out.
00:27:32.000 The turnout even
00:27:32.780 for a by-election
00:27:33.560 was quite remarkable, right?
00:27:35.440 Historically,
00:27:35.940 by-elections have very low turnout.
00:27:37.320 That was not the case
00:27:38.060 in this by-election.
00:27:39.320 So I do feel like there is,
00:27:41.160 you know,
00:27:41.440 it's like this idea
00:27:42.200 of, like,
00:27:42.500 wind beneath your wings, right?
00:27:43.820 And politics is often
00:27:44.920 about a narrative
00:27:45.700 and about that kind of thing.
00:27:47.280 So I think the message is,
00:27:48.900 one, for, you know,
00:27:50.140 a wider swath of Canadians,
00:27:51.540 but also very specifically,
00:27:52.660 as you point out,
00:27:53.400 conservative supporters
00:27:54.280 who had been reflecting
00:27:56.380 on a lesser amount
00:27:58.600 of relevance
00:27:59.200 that the party has had
00:28:00.360 and that Paliyev has had
00:28:01.560 since the general election.
00:28:02.720 Without a seat
00:28:03.240 in the House of Commons,
00:28:04.460 with the government
00:28:05.160 kind of dictating
00:28:06.280 the day-to-day news cycle,
00:28:08.260 the political news cycle,
00:28:09.480 very unlike what it was like
00:28:10.800 a year ago
00:28:11.300 when Paliyev was dictating
00:28:12.580 that news cycle,
00:28:13.460 I think there were questions
00:28:14.540 and conversations going on
00:28:15.900 about how firm a grip
00:28:17.120 Paliyev does have 0.95
00:28:18.440 on the leadership.
00:28:19.400 This isn't the only test
00:28:21.240 or the only thing
00:28:22.600 that will answer that question,
00:28:23.940 but if Paliyev had hope
00:28:25.460 that this sent a signal
00:28:26.940 to conservative supporters,
00:28:28.060 I think just by virtue
00:28:29.540 of the margin of victory,
00:28:30.760 the decisive nature
00:28:31.680 of his victory,
00:28:32.640 it likely did.
00:28:33.340 So he had a big loss
00:28:35.620 in the spring,
00:28:37.120 a win last night.
00:28:38.700 What are you expecting,
00:28:40.140 perhaps maybe
00:28:40.940 in a change of tone
00:28:42.640 when he is back
00:28:43.880 in the House of Commons?
00:28:46.080 There it is.
00:28:47.800 And I think she's expecting
00:28:48.880 her to say,
00:28:49.820 yes, he needs the change.
00:28:52.160 But she disappoints.
00:28:54.780 Honestly, I don't expect
00:28:56.180 a change of tone.
00:28:57.480 And I say that
00:28:58.260 for a few reasons.
00:28:59.340 First of all,
00:28:59.920 last night,
00:29:00.400 I listened now this morning to,
00:29:02.180 well, part of it last night
00:29:03.380 and then the rest this morning,
00:29:04.480 everything he said
00:29:05.160 to supporters.
00:29:06.160 It was very much
00:29:07.240 what we had heard
00:29:08.260 during the election campaign
00:29:09.820 and prior.
00:29:10.880 And I've also been speaking
00:29:12.300 to as many people as I can
00:29:13.480 who were involved
00:29:14.120 in the campaign
00:29:14.700 and who have been involved
00:29:15.940 kind of in the upper echelon
00:29:16.980 of the party since.
00:29:18.320 And my sense is
00:29:19.400 that they don't think
00:29:20.680 a change in tone
00:29:22.180 is required
00:29:23.260 or has been necessitated.
00:29:24.660 And people watching
00:29:25.400 may have a different view of that.
00:29:27.120 And given the outcome
00:29:27.980 of the election,
00:29:29.300 I understand how people
00:29:30.680 would take a different view.
00:29:31.760 But their feeling is
00:29:33.380 that the messaging
00:29:34.160 that they had
00:29:35.120 outside of Trump,
00:29:36.620 outside of what happened
00:29:37.760 with the NDP
00:29:38.440 actually did resonate
00:29:39.780 to a greater degree
00:29:41.260 with Canadians
00:29:42.060 and their supporters
00:29:43.340 than previous messages
00:29:45.040 the Conservatives have had.
00:29:46.320 So this idea
00:29:46.980 that he has to deliver it
00:29:48.080 in a different way
00:29:48.940 or moderate in some way,
00:29:50.800 they just don't buy into.
00:29:52.040 Again, like I'm not rendering
00:29:53.240 analysis on whether
00:29:54.560 that's true or not,
00:29:55.700 but that is what
00:29:56.600 has been conveyed to me.
00:29:57.880 And in every instance
00:29:58.920 over the summer
00:29:59.700 and including last night
00:30:01.120 where we have heard
00:30:02.140 Mr. Polyev speak to reporters
00:30:03.900 or speak to Canadians,
00:30:05.500 that is echoed, right?
00:30:06.680 Like it's not like
00:30:07.580 anything is different
00:30:08.520 than it was six months ago
00:30:09.840 in the issues he's focused on,
00:30:11.440 primarily around,
00:30:12.240 for example,
00:30:12.820 cost of living.
00:30:13.500 I would say there's
00:30:14.040 kind of been a pivot
00:30:15.020 towards talking about
00:30:15.840 immigration more,
00:30:16.660 but otherwise
00:30:17.100 it's very much
00:30:17.860 what we heard
00:30:18.320 during the election
00:30:19.020 around cost of living.
00:30:20.260 And the tone
00:30:20.820 is very much the same as well.
00:30:22.480 How that translates
00:30:23.440 in the House of Commons
00:30:24.420 up against
00:30:25.040 a Mark Carney-led government
00:30:26.640 versus a Justin Trudeau-led government
00:30:28.440 is going to be another test
00:30:30.080 for the party
00:30:30.700 come the fall.
00:30:32.240 CTV's chief political...
00:30:33.640 Excellent.
00:30:35.320 Thank you, Vashie,
00:30:35.940 for that.
00:30:37.860 And...
00:30:38.300 Mark, you look like
00:30:40.580 you were about to...
00:30:41.360 Yeah, I was a tell.
00:30:42.720 As a European,
00:30:43.500 you know, as a...
00:30:44.480 As a European,
00:30:45.020 I am a European, actually.
00:30:46.280 Oh, you are?
00:30:46.880 Oh, oh.
00:30:47.240 Yeah, an Irish citizen.
00:30:48.100 Yeah, so there you go.
00:30:49.260 Well, welcome.
00:30:50.420 Speaking as a European,
00:30:51.780 I like to say falling.
00:30:55.180 Now, what's wrong?
00:30:56.260 President Zelensky.
00:30:56.980 Stop this war.
00:31:01.020 Thank you.
00:31:01.840 And using this opportunity,
00:31:04.380 many thanks to your wife,
00:31:05.660 the first lady of the United States.
00:31:07.920 She sent a letter
00:31:09.060 to Putin about our children,
00:31:11.460 abducted children,
00:31:12.620 and my wife,
00:31:15.440 the first lady of Ukraine,
00:31:17.940 she gave the letter.
00:31:19.160 It's not to you,
00:31:20.140 to your wife. 0.53
00:31:20.640 Oh, I won't.
00:31:21.440 I won't.
00:31:22.300 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:31:24.620 So we are saying
00:31:25.240 this sensitive topic, yeah.
00:31:27.080 Yes, please.
00:31:27.860 And thanks to our partners
00:31:29.500 and that you supported this format
00:31:31.500 that after our meeting,
00:31:32.800 we can have leaders
00:31:34.460 who are around us,
00:31:36.240 the UK and France,
00:31:37.260 Germany, Italy,
00:31:38.200 Finland, EU, NATO,
00:31:39.960 I mean,
00:31:40.220 all partners around Ukraine.
00:31:42.800 I'm not sure,
00:31:44.380 I'm not sure what the hell
00:31:45.400 Zelensky is actually trying
00:31:46.660 to say here,
00:31:47.340 except that he's
00:31:49.420 portraying himself
00:31:51.920 as being close
00:31:52.760 to Donald Trump again,
00:31:53.900 not just close
00:31:54.640 physically at the moment,
00:31:56.240 but that they're friends again.
00:31:58.740 And I'll explain in a minute
00:32:00.120 why Donald Trump
00:32:01.240 is looking right past
00:32:02.760 Zelensky here.
00:32:03.500 Thank you very much
00:32:06.940 for the invitation.
00:32:09.020 Thank you very much
00:32:09.760 for being here.
00:32:10.700 President Trump.
00:32:12.960 Do you think it's bad?
00:32:14.480 Yes, Peter, go ahead.
00:32:15.300 Thank you, President Trump.
00:32:16.180 So,
00:32:16.880 President Zelensky,
00:32:17.520 you say,
00:32:19.180 in a post on X today,
00:32:20.740 Russia must end this war, 0.96
00:32:22.680 which it itself started.
00:32:24.520 President Trump,
00:32:25.580 you say,
00:32:26.620 President Zelensky of Ukraine
00:32:28.000 can end the war
00:32:29.180 with Russia
00:32:29.640 almost immediately
00:32:30.740 if he wants to,
00:32:32.940 which isn't.
00:32:34.860 Yeah,
00:32:35.360 I think that's true.
00:32:36.280 I think we're going
00:32:37.800 to have a meeting.
00:32:38.440 I think if everything
00:32:39.360 works out well today,
00:32:40.380 we'll have a trilat.
00:32:41.740 And I think there will be
00:32:42.860 a reasonable chance
00:32:44.000 of ending the war
00:32:44.740 when we do that.
00:32:45.480 Is this the end
00:32:47.940 of the road
00:32:48.400 for American support
00:32:49.960 for Ukraine?
00:32:50.740 Is today's meeting
00:32:51.560 deal or no deal?
00:32:54.740 I can never say that.
00:32:56.220 It's never the end
00:32:56.880 of the road.
00:32:57.280 People are being killed
00:32:58.080 and we want to stop that.
00:32:59.500 So I would not say
00:33:01.020 it's the end of the road.
00:33:01.900 No, I think we have
00:33:02.500 a good chance of doing it.
00:33:04.400 It's been almost
00:33:05.860 four years now
00:33:06.720 that a lot of people
00:33:07.900 were killed last week.
00:33:08.960 A lot of people last week.
00:33:10.120 I mean,
00:33:10.720 millions of people killed,
00:33:12.180 but a lot of people
00:33:13.060 last week,
00:33:13.780 for whatever reason,
00:33:14.540 a big number,
00:33:15.960 a lot of soldiers,
00:33:17.040 both on both sides.
00:33:18.720 And I know the president,
00:33:21.420 I know myself,
00:33:22.800 and I believe Vladimir Putin
00:33:24.000 wants to see it ended.
00:33:25.320 And as you met with Putin
00:33:26.600 on Friday,
00:33:27.780 today you've got
00:33:28.380 President Zelensky here.
00:33:30.120 As you listen to Russia 0.88
00:33:31.180 and Ukraine,
00:33:32.060 which side has
00:33:32.800 the better cards?
00:33:34.060 Well, I don't want
00:33:34.600 to say that.
00:33:35.320 I'm just here to be.
00:33:36.900 Look, this isn't my war.
00:33:37.960 This is Joe Biden's war.
00:33:39.100 He's the one that
00:33:40.540 had a lot to do
00:33:42.880 with this happening.
00:33:43.960 And we want to get it ended.
00:33:45.920 And we want it to end
00:33:46.880 good for everybody.
00:33:47.840 We want it to end good.
00:33:49.060 The people of Ukraine
00:33:49.920 have suffered incredibly.
00:33:51.660 Mr. President Zelensky.
00:33:55.040 We'll get back to that
00:33:56.020 in a minute.
00:33:56.780 But Donald Trump,
00:33:58.600 the last time
00:33:59.380 Zelensky was seated
00:34:00.640 next to him
00:34:01.340 in that same room,
00:34:02.520 probably that same chair,
00:34:03.680 Donald Trump said
00:34:04.480 Zelensky had no cards.
00:34:06.880 Zero.
00:34:07.440 He had zero cards to play.
00:34:09.340 He's really saying
00:34:10.240 the same thing now.
00:34:11.660 But he's just,
00:34:12.680 he's looking beyond
00:34:13.560 Zelensky and saying,
00:34:14.920 you're going to have
00:34:15.500 to accept Russian demands.
00:34:17.280 It's over for you.
00:34:18.060 When you start putting
00:34:19.120 60 plus year olds
00:34:20.460 on the battlefield
00:34:21.200 and 16 year olds
00:34:22.600 on the battlefield,
00:34:23.580 you're finished.
00:34:25.380 You have nothing left.
00:34:27.300 And Europe might sputter
00:34:28.560 and sputter 0.95
00:34:29.100 about having,
00:34:30.020 you know,
00:34:31.100 a war with Russia
00:34:32.360 over this.
00:34:33.080 They know they can't.
00:34:34.260 They know they can't
00:34:35.300 even fathom that.
00:34:37.020 What else is going on here?
00:34:39.380 Well,
00:34:39.620 clearly there's a
00:34:40.620 acceptance now
00:34:42.100 from the European Union,
00:34:43.220 even from rhinos
00:34:44.480 like Senator Lindsey Graham
00:34:46.680 from South Carolina,
00:34:48.280 that Ukraine 0.91
00:34:49.920 is not going
00:34:50.800 to emerge
00:34:51.720 from this unscathed.
00:34:52.800 They're going
00:34:53.260 to be relinquishing
00:34:54.740 Crimea
00:34:55.180 and probably parts
00:34:56.680 of the Donbass region.
00:34:59.340 That's,
00:35:00.040 and Trump
00:35:00.660 has put that out there
00:35:02.660 and there's a gradual
00:35:03.860 but clear
00:35:05.000 acceptance of that.
00:35:06.540 And when we come back
00:35:07.220 from the break,
00:35:08.120 Donald Trump
00:35:09.240 is really,
00:35:09.980 has finally said,
00:35:11.120 U.S. troops
00:35:11.820 on the ground there,
00:35:12.980 forget it.
00:35:13.620 Ain't going to happen.
00:35:14.620 Well,
00:35:14.760 after the merchandise break,
00:35:16.040 I'll get into that.
00:35:16.740 from this one,
00:35:19.620 move on.
00:35:20.120 Get up!
00:35:20.620 Get up!
00:35:21.700 Get up!
00:35:27.700 .
00:35:27.900 Let's go!
00:35:28.420 Thank you.
00:35:58.420 Thank you.
00:36:28.420 I want to play this. This, of course, is the White House press secretary talking directly to this issue. And I think this is very interesting.
00:36:41.240 Thank you.
00:37:11.220 Well, you got to the heart of what I was going to say to all of you today on security guarantees, which is the president has definitively stated U.S. boots will not be on the ground in Ukraine.
00:37:20.860 But we can certainly help in the coordination and perhaps provide other means of security guarantees to our European allies.
00:37:27.720 The president understands security guarantees are crucially important to ensure a lasting peace.
00:37:32.520 And he has directed his national security team to coordinate with our friends in Europe and also to continue to cooperate and discuss these matters with Ukraine and Russia as well.
00:37:42.960 Now, have the Russians responded at all? I know we spoke with President Putin last night.
00:37:47.140 What has been their response? Because we've heard some reports from the Kremlin and others saying they're unequivocally against NATO troops on the ground.
00:37:53.900 Well, look, the president continues to have these conversations with both leaders.
00:37:58.260 Those conversations took place in Anchorage, Alaska again yesterday with the Europeans and President Zelensky.
00:38:04.180 And he has directed his team to come up with a framework for these security guarantees that can be acceptable to help ensure a lasting peace and end this war.
00:38:11.880 Heading into Alaska, a lot of the focus in the talk was on this trilateral meeting between these three leaders.
00:38:17.420 Can you explain how this went from a trilateral meeting involving President Trump to now the focus being on this bilateral meeting without the president first?
00:38:24.800 Well, look, the president has spoken to both leaders about this and both leaders have expressed a willingness to sit down with each other.
00:38:32.520 And so our national security team will help both countries do that.
00:38:35.920 Ultimately, the president has always said that there are areas of disagreement in this war that will have to be discussed and decided upon by these two countries.
00:38:44.820 And so he wants these two countries to engage in direct diplomacy.
00:38:48.080 He said that from the very beginning, which is why he's agreeable to the idea of having President Zelensky and President Putin get together.
00:38:55.540 And I understand accommodations for that meeting are underway.
00:38:58.540 As soon as we hear more details, we'll be sure to let all of you know.
00:39:01.140 So who do you think is going to dominate that meeting with Zelensky and Putin together in the same room?
00:39:11.500 Obviously Putin.
00:39:12.580 So what is Trump doing here?
00:39:13.980 He has essentially said, we're going to give you a security guarantee, which is very vague.
00:39:20.720 It can mean just about anything.
00:39:22.280 But we're not going to occupy Ukraine with American troops.
00:39:25.840 Do you think the remaining NATO countries can do anything without the United States?
00:39:30.960 Probably not.
00:39:33.200 So Donald Trump has essentially done what he said he was going to do when he was running for president the last time.
00:39:41.300 Establish a peace in Ukraine the only way possible, which is to recognize that the Donbass region was at war with the rest of Ukraine.
00:39:51.020 The Donbass region wants to be part of Russia.
00:39:52.940 The people there voted on that question and that Crimea is not going to revert back to Ukrainian ownership and that Ukraine will never be a member of NATO.
00:40:03.640 So the security guarantee is a way of nullifying any potential that Ukraine will ever be a member of NATO or that NATO will actually play any vital role in the restitution of peace in Ukraine.
00:40:19.080 So I've characterized Donald Trump on the peace process, on the endless war question as whiplash foreign policy, because one day he's selling, he's giving weapons to Ukraine.
00:40:33.100 The next day he's talking about peace.
00:40:34.540 One day it's Biden's war.
00:40:35.960 The next day it's very much looking like Trump's war.
00:40:38.900 But I think there is a plan here and it might have been a little slow in coming, but I think Trump is playing the game very well and very adeptly at this point and very adroitly.
00:40:55.140 And I have to give him credit for that because I've had massive doubts about whether or not he's capable or willing to have a peace there because there's tremendous pressure from the warmongers, from the military industrial complex, from the neoconservatives amongst the party rank and file.
00:41:14.580 Well, and the people in this in a lot of the senators, a lot of the congressmen are neoconservative.
00:41:21.960 They want to continue these wars because they're profitable.
00:41:25.920 I think Donald Trump is emerging from this in a way that makes and as he said, everybody wins because Ukraine cannot continue this war.
00:41:33.720 It's not going to be a country at all much longer.
00:41:36.440 It won't have anybody living.
00:41:37.560 It has completely, completely eradicated so much of its humanity and those that have not been killed in the war. 0.66
00:41:53.500 And Colonel Douglas McGregor, who's been on this show a couple of times and you know him very well, estimates it's 1.8 to 2 million fatalities for Ukraine.
00:42:03.920 Those are numbers reminiscent of the Great War from 1914, 1918, where countries literally lost millions of combatants.
00:42:15.840 So that is where Ukraine is.
00:42:17.700 It needs this war to end sooner.
00:42:19.920 Zelensky doesn't give a damn about the people of Ukraine.
00:42:22.980 He's looking for his political, his economic feature as he knows he's not going to remain president of Ukraine.
00:42:30.240 Whether it's the United States or Ukrainians that deliver the coup de grace, whatever, and I not necessarily meaning he's going to be removed in a physical sense. 0.67
00:42:42.240 He will at least be removed in a political sense.
00:42:45.040 But whether it's the Ukrainians who do that or the United States that does that, his days are numbered. 0.60
00:42:49.440 And he's looking to find somewhere to go when this is all over, where he's got his villa, where he's got a Swiss bank account, where he's got his money, and where he can retire from the hurly-burly of politics.
00:43:07.580 And that's what Zelensky is thinking about right now.
00:43:11.180 And he wants to keep the war going as long as he can, so he can amass as much as he can for his exile.
00:43:20.160 And that's, unfortunately, what it comes down to.
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