Stay Free - Russel Brand - Aaron Maté (FBI-Ukraine Collusion)

Russell Brand and Gareth Roy discuss Trump's leaked audio of him rifling through a box of coke, Joe Biden's alleged affair with a woman, and RFK's anti-vaccination rant on Bill Maher's show. Plus, the return of the censorship industrial complex, and a new conspiracy theory about RFK and Bill Maher. All that and much more on this week's RUMBLE! Subscribe to our new show on Apple Podcasts, and don't forget to rate, comment and subscribe to our other shows MIC/LINE, The Anthropology, The HYPE Report and HYPETALKS wherever you get your favourite podchips. Enjoy & spread the word to your friends about this podcast! R.I.P.R.K. - Russell Brand and Gav & Gareth R. Roy Music by PSOVOD and tyops. This episode was brought to you live on Rumble, a podcast produced by and . We apologise for the audio quality in this episode. We re still trying to work out the kinks in this one, but we promise we ll get it right next week. We promise you'll get a new version of this better in a couple of weeks. Thanks for tuning in next week! - R. I.B. - Rachael - P.S. We're working on a new logo for the new show, so apologies for the background music in the intro and outro music, we'll be working on that you can hear it better in the next few weeks, we promise you that we'll hear it on the next week, we're working out the rest of the audio in the audio on Rumble. Rachievement is coming soon, we can assure you that you'll be getting a better quality by then, we are working out how to make sure you get a better sound quality by the end of this week, so please bear with us. Thank you for the feedback we'll get back to you in the podcast next week with a better audio quality next week :) - R-R.E.B., R-K and R-B.A.B-R-E-C-A-K - R, R.K, R-M-AJ-S-K-S.R-K? - B-K, B-A. - S-R? - C-C? - E-M?

00:00:00.000 Hey, all right, you awakening wonders.

00:00:01.000 Thanks for joining us live on Rumble for our show.

00:00:05.000 Stay free with Russell Brand.

00:00:07.000 I'm here with Gareth Roy.

00:00:08.000 We're going to go through the news stories of the day.

00:00:10.000 Trump's leaked audio.

00:00:13.000 Are his admissions incriminating?

00:00:16.000 It does sound incriminating, like this noise of someone literally going through a box, like, oh, here, look at this secret.

00:00:22.000 But I suppose this is the question we want to ask you.

00:00:25.000 And do let us know in the comments, in the chat, what you think.

00:00:28.000 Don't you sort of feel already that all politicians and particularly heads of state have access to highly sensitive material which they communicate about in private circles?

00:00:39.000 It's not really the worst thing you can imagine someone in power doing and isn't it more significant that the confidential and classified information pertains to a potential war with Iran?

00:00:49.000 Isn't that the real story rather than that Trump is rifling through them boxes Having a diet coke, not diet coke, full fat coke for Trump.

00:00:58.000 It's funny, isn't it?

00:00:58.000 Because basically this is about Trump, admittedly, you know, I guess you could say, illegally showing someone a classified document.

00:01:05.000 But basically what he's saying is, you see, I told you I didn't want a war with Iran.

00:01:09.000 And then the mainstream media going, ha ha, we've got you!

00:01:13.000 Like, the war with Iran is surely the important thing. 1.00

00:01:15.000 I don't know, what has more impact on you?

00:01:17.000 Is it that powerful people have access to classified documents that they maybe sometimes do not stay within the letter of the law around?

00:01:25.000 Or is it that there's this ongoing forever war perennial Armageddon plan that's amping up to wage war on Iran? 0.71

00:01:33.000 The next closing in on Hunter Biden, by all accounts, is getting harder and harder to believe that Joe Biden didn't know anything about... Allegedly!

00:01:43.000 About his business dealings.

00:01:44.000 Also, what I think is really funny, and let me know what you think about this, if you're watching this on Rumble, join us in the chat on local.

00:01:49.000 Some of you saying, what's happened to Jack Dorsey?

00:01:50.000 We're just delaying, we're doing Jack Dorsey on Monday, because we've decided on Friday, we are going to bring you exclusively, and just, I'm going to take my top off for this, RFK style.

00:02:00.000 I'm taking my top off, because what we are going to bring you is me, Schellenberger, and Taibi, We're gonna be bringing down the censorship industrial complex on Friday and on Monday and we'll actually, I think we're doing Jack Dorsey maybe on a Tuesday.

00:02:18.000 I hope they're keeping their tops on.

00:02:19.000 Who?

00:02:22.000 Will they be willing to take off their tops?

00:02:24.000 They're willing to blow the lid on a whole lot of secrets, but these little guys, they want censored forever.

00:02:31.000 They look like a shirtless Putin, it's been claimed over there.

00:02:35.000 So hey, you guys, join us, press the red button, join us on Locals for this chat.

00:02:40.000 Once we go exclusively onto Rumble, once we leave YouTube, we're going to be talking about RFK's now famous vaccine argument with Bill Maher.

00:02:50.000 I've been on that Bill Maher show.

00:02:51.000 I've been in that.

00:02:52.000 You won't even look at me, will you?

00:02:54.000 You won't even look at the little jelly tot.

00:02:56.000 One little bit of jelly tot and you go all crazy, don't you?

00:03:01.000 So yeah, let's have a look at RFK and Hotez. 1.00

00:03:04.000 Once we leave YouTube, we're going to be talking about RFK, who you know, Rumble is the only platform RFK trusts.

00:03:09.000 We're going to be talking a little bit about his appearance on Bill Maher and the way that he will become mired in anti-vax rhetoric.

00:03:17.000 The conversation between him and Dr. Peter Hotez goes on.

00:03:20.000 Hotez says that Kennedy looks like a shirtless Putin.

00:03:24.000 But I think he was just doing some push-ups and stuff, wasn't he?

00:03:27.000 He's a lovely fella.

00:03:28.000 That is essentially a dig about RFK's conspiracy theory about the war between Russia and Ukraine.

00:03:35.000 That's what that is a reference to.

00:03:37.000 Is RFK wanting an end to forever wars?

00:03:40.000 I'm going to text RFK right now.

00:03:42.000 You have it when I do this.

00:03:43.000 I'm doing topless texting now.

00:03:45.000 Wow, it's a new low.

00:03:47.000 I'm going to text him and say, do you want to spot me?

00:03:51.000 RFK, do you want to spot me?

00:03:53.000 No, look, I think it's unfair to say you look like a Shirtless Putin.

00:03:58.000 You're better than Shirtless Putin.

00:03:59.000 Hey, baby, it's me, RB.

00:03:59.000 RFK!

00:04:02.000 We are longing, now that you are a Rumble fellow, and I should let you know that we're broadcasting this live, just my half of the conversation.

00:04:09.000 I've seen you with your top off.

00:04:11.000 I've got my top off now.

00:04:12.000 I want us to work out together in a kind of Zuckerberg-Musk style showdown, but collaboratively.

00:04:21.000 Rather than in a combative form.

00:04:25.000 We support you.

00:04:25.000 We love you.

00:04:26.000 We're glad you've joined us on Rumble.

00:04:27.000 Stay free.

00:04:27.000 Speak to you soon.

00:04:28.000 RFK that's sent hang on well hang on collaboratively collaboratively so what

00:04:35.000 just two men hugging each other with a top pumping iron just a couple of guys

00:04:38.000 together okay That still doesn't seem collaborative.

00:04:44.000 Collaborative is an interesting word that you just used for RFK there.

00:04:49.000 Are you committed to text?

00:04:53.000 Join us on Locals if you're watching this on Rumble.

00:04:55.000 If you're watching this on YouTube we're going to flip over to being exclusively on Rumble when we cover the story about Bill, Ma and RFK.

00:05:04.000 We've got Aaron Maté coming up talking about Ukraine pressuring the FBI to blacklist him and obviously we'll cover what remains of this coup story and how the coup has been used by the mainstream media and how extensive the mainstream media's involvement goes.

00:05:18.000 But let's have a listen first of all to Trump's transgressions.

00:05:24.000 It's really actually quite lovely.

00:05:26.000 Have you heard this on the mainstream media yet?

00:05:28.000 It's like... It couldn't sound more like someone going through secret documents.

00:05:32.000 I mean, I shouldn't be doing this.

00:05:33.000 Have you looked in there?

00:05:34.000 Look at that. 0.97

00:05:35.000 I mean, it's ridiculous. 0.96

00:05:36.000 Have a listen. 0.82

00:05:38.000 Well, with Millie... Let me see that.

00:05:40.000 I'll show you an example.

00:05:42.000 He said that I wanted to attack Iran.

00:05:48.000 Isn't it amazing?

00:05:49.000 I have a big pile of papers.

00:05:50.000 This thing just came out.

00:05:51.000 Look.

00:05:53.000 This was him.

00:05:54.000 They presented me this.

00:05:56.000 This is off the record, but...

00:05:58.000 This is off the record.

00:05:59.000 That's the way covers go for his sense of material.

00:06:01.000 But again, that's the sort of thing we anticipate Trump doing, and we expect that all leaders everywhere do.

00:06:07.000 And when Trump does it, you just feel, well, this isn't an anomaly.

00:06:11.000 This is in line with Trump behavior.

00:06:12.000 And isn't it more important that he's talking about plans for a war with Iran, which they claimed, oh, it was him that came up with it.

00:06:19.000 If this is what he gets sent down for, that would be mad, wouldn't it?

00:06:22.000 Wouldn't it for revealing that he was being pressured into going to war with Iran?

00:06:26.000 How dare you! 0.99

00:06:27.000 How dare you reveal that we planned a war with Iran!

00:06:29.000 It's like Julian Assange still in Belmarsh prison for revealing the war crimes of the Iraq war period.

00:06:36.000 Like, what's more significant?

00:06:38.000 The person revealing the information or the information itself?

00:06:42.000 Our Lord.

00:06:42.000 They presented me this.

00:06:44.000 This was him.

00:06:46.000 This was the defense department and him.

00:06:48.000 This totally wins my case, you know.

00:06:50.000 Except it is like highly confidential.

00:06:53.000 Some people in the chat know Daganoku.

00:06:56.000 I'm sickened by this information.

00:06:57.000 I don't know if the information is... Ah, could be.

00:06:59.000 We're like, our point, or the actual... Ah, could be that.

00:07:04.000 This is secret information.

00:07:05.000 See, as president I could have been less, but now I can't, you know, but this is less.

00:07:10.000 Someone says, Russell, if you have to put a shirt on for today's show, please don't put that same shirt back on.

00:07:16.000 I like this shirt.

00:07:16.000 I know, I like the shirt.

00:07:17.000 It's a nice little shirt.

00:07:18.000 People are tipping me on locals like I'm a little lap dancer.

00:07:21.000 Thanks, guys.

00:07:22.000 Appreciate it.

00:07:24.000 That's the money makers.

00:07:26.000 Pop them back away for a little while.

00:07:27.000 Keep the lights on for a few more weeks.

00:07:28.000 That's us.

00:07:29.000 Keep us going.

00:07:29.000 Keep us rocking along.

00:07:31.000 So there you go.

00:07:32.000 We're going to be looking at this obviously in more depth over the coming weeks, but the central point is this.

00:07:38.000 I believe that the mainstream media and the neoliberal Democrat party establishment are attacking Donald Trump on the wrong front.

00:07:45.000 No one that loves Trump thinks it's particularly offensive that he's going through those classified documents.

00:07:50.000 More important than that is the fact that these documents appear to reveal a plan to go to war Stay free with Russell Brand.

00:07:56.000 where we talk about how there are already plans to amplify tensions between Israel and

00:08:01.000 Iran, existing tensions. So it seems to me to be that we are focusing on the wrong details

00:08:07.000 when it comes to this story. But let us know in the chat and the comments what you reckon,

00:08:11.000 guys. Let us know.

00:08:13.000 Stay free with Russell Brand. See it first on Rumble.

00:08:16.000 SMP2K. I'm Russell Brand.

00:08:19.000 I assume this segment is pre-recorded so Rusty can read chat.

00:08:22.000 Or did I miss him changing his shirt?

00:08:24.000 We'd re-record it and make it better, don't we really?

00:08:26.000 Yeah.

00:08:27.000 Make it good. 1.00

00:08:29.000 Damn it, Janet. 1.00

00:08:31.000 Says someone else. 1.00

00:08:32.000 He ain't so bad.

00:08:33.000 They're talking about Putin. 0.71

00:08:34.000 He is bad, I think. 0.62

00:08:36.000 Everything wrong with Putin.

00:08:37.000 Maybe he's talking about Purgosian.

00:08:39.000 Alright, alright.

00:08:40.000 Purgosian though, he came across pretty bad. 1.00

00:08:42.000 Billionaire, criminal, warmonger, apologistic pest. 0.99

00:08:47.000 Everything wrong with Putin is wrong with every politician. 1.00

00:08:50.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:08:52.000 Gonna eat lunch, says Jack Swiss.

00:08:53.000 Too much anger churned and triggered for me and others.

00:08:56.000 Blessings to the community.

00:08:58.000 Do you know what?

00:08:58.000 There you go.

00:08:59.000 We're gonna raise the quality of this show exponentially in a moment because we've got a fantastic, bold and brave Another journalist that I rank alongside them is our guest on the show now.

00:09:08.000 of appearing with Michael Schellenberger and Matt Taibbi in a live event to bring attention

00:09:14.000 to and make a movement to oppose the censorship industrial complex.

00:09:19.000 Another journalist that I rank alongside them is our guest on the show now.

00:09:24.000 In the old days, Aaron Maté would have been played by Dustin Hoffman in a hagiography,

00:09:30.000 in a film that focused on the integrity and bravery of journalists.

00:09:34.000 He's worked at the Grey Zone. 0.98

00:09:35.000 He's the co-host of Useful Idiots podcast. 0.98

00:09:38.000 And according to The Guardian, a British legacy newspaper, he is a prolific spreader of disinformation. 0.96

00:09:46.000 We can only assume then he is at odds with the mainstream.

00:09:49.000 It's Aaron Maté.

00:09:51.000 All right, Aaron, how are you?

00:09:54.000 That line from The Guardian is my highest honor.

00:09:54.000 I'm good, Russell.

00:09:57.000 There can be no greater gong than the disdain of the Guardian.

00:10:03.000 You're on a blacklist.

00:10:05.000 The Ukrainian Security Service want the FBI to put you on a blacklist.

00:10:11.000 Why?

00:10:11.000 Why, Aaron, when you've got such lovely brown eyes?

00:10:16.000 Yeah, this came out recently in the Twitter files.

00:10:19.000 The FBI, acting on behalf of its counterparts in Ukraine, asked Twitter to censor a whole list of accounts and also hand over their information to Ukraine, to Ukrainian intelligence.

00:10:31.000 And my name was on that list.

00:10:33.000 I was among the people that Ukraine wanted to be removed and wanted to get my information.

00:10:39.000 And Twitter said no, because they pointed out that It wouldn't be such a good look if, you know, we're censoring Western journalists.

00:10:46.000 And the FBI said, okay, but it's just weird that It was Twitter that had to tell the FBI that maybe you shouldn't be censoring journalists, period, especially on behalf of a foreign government.

00:10:56.000 As to why Ukraine would want to do that, I don't know.

00:10:59.000 I just like to spread factual information about this proxy war and how it could have been avoided.

00:11:04.000 There were all these chances at diplomacy before the war and after the war.

00:11:07.000 They've all been sabotaged by the West. 0.97

00:11:09.000 I don't think it's good to use Ukraine and sacrifice its people for a geostrategic goal of bleeding Russia.

00:11:17.000 I don't see how that's in anybody's interest but U.S.

00:11:19.000 warmongers.

00:11:20.000 And because I say stuff like that, they wanted me censored.

00:11:23.000 Here is the email just to show that Aaron's not lying, that this isn't disinformation, it's evident truth that we can demonstrate there.

00:11:34.000 I had a conversation recently with someone that said that there's a kind of form of Occidental imperialism in the assumption that Ukraine aren't able to decide for themselves what the best response to a criminal Russian invasion Is that Ukraine is an independent nation and it's somehow patronizing to assume that the narratives of those of us that live in anglophonic countries supersede their own long-standing tensions with Russia.

00:12:06.000 How do you reconcile the fact that Ukraine do have their own intentions with what appears to be the observable fact that this is somehow beneficial to NATO and the military-industrial complex?

00:12:20.000 Well, a few things.

00:12:21.000 Ukraine, of course, has the right to resist an invasion, but that doesn't necessarily obligate us to fuel the war with our military aid and intelligence support, which is what the U.S.

00:12:32.000 is doing.

00:12:33.000 Ukraine could not fight this war without U.S. 0.55

00:12:35.000 support, and that's why Lindsey Graham said, the senator from South Carolina said, that as long as we aid Ukraine, they will fight to the last person.

00:12:43.000 I don't see how it's aiding Ukraine to use them to fight to the last person.

00:12:47.000 I want Ukrainians to live. 0.99

00:12:50.000 So, yes, Ukraine has the right to resist an invasion, but it doesn't necessarily obligate us to fuel the war, especially when, and this is a key point, there are diplomatic alternatives.

00:12:59.000 This war could have been avoided, and it could have been stopped after it began.

00:13:02.000 Before the war, there were the Minsk Accords, which Ukraine's far-right and the bipartisan U.S.

00:13:08.000 establishment bitterly opposed because that would have ended the war and the Donbass that began.

00:13:12.000 After the 2014 U.S.-backed coup, Russia put out proposals in December 2021 that, at minimum, should have been discussed trying to address Russia's security concerns about the expansion of NATO and the, you know, placement of NATO infrastructure surrounding Russia, including inside Ukraine.

00:13:29.000 And the U.S.

00:13:30.000 and NATO refused to even basically discuss it.

00:13:32.000 So that was a mistake, and that was a case where diplomacy could have possibly averted all this.

00:13:37.000 And then after the war, we now have so many sources—NATO sources, Ukrainian sources, Vladimir Putin himself saying that a deal was reached in April 2022, but that Boris Johnson, with presumed U.S.

00:13:49.000 backing, came over and blocked it.

00:13:51.000 So yes, in principle, of course, a country has the right to resist a foreign invader.

00:13:56.000 But when there are reasonable alternatives to avoiding it, those at least need to be explored and not blindly fueling this disastrous war, especially when it's pitting the world's top two nuclear powers against each other.

00:14:09.000 And one more thing about Ukrainian agency.

00:14:12.000 It depends which Ukraine we're talking about, because Zelensky himself was elected on a peace mandate in 2019.

00:14:18.000 He was going to end the war in the Donbass.

00:14:21.000 He was going to make peace with the rebels and with Russia.

00:14:23.000 He couldn't, because Ukraine's far right blocked him.

00:14:26.000 They protested violently whenever he took steps towards implementing the Minsk Accords, and some people even threatened to kill him.

00:14:34.000 So, this far-right leader named Dmitry Yarosh said that if Zelensky makes peace with Russia, he won't lose his popularity.

00:14:41.000 He will lose his life.

00:14:42.000 He will hang from a tree.

00:14:44.000 So, when people say we need to respect Ukrainian agency, which Ukrainian agency are they talking about?

00:14:49.000 The agency that elected Zelensky on a peace mandate?

00:14:53.000 Or the agency of the far-right fascists who threatened to kill him if he implemented peace?

00:14:58.000 Of course, it's reductive to suggest that there is one Ukraine with a singular objective.

00:15:04.000 That's a good point, thanks for explaining that.

00:15:08.000 Arshela says in our chat here that this is an example of neoliberalism by proxy, corporate

00:15:14.000 control and global oligarchy, neocolonialism, she corrects.

00:15:19.000 Now this Ukrainian counter-offensive, which many people said was going to change the timbre

00:15:24.000 of the war, has gone appallingly badly and some suggest that the much-covered coup approach

00:15:33.000 in Moscow that seems to have amounted to very little was covered so favourably and extensively

00:15:40.000 precisely because it's a distraction.

00:15:42.000 It was interesting, wasn't it, that NATO got a shout out when our man Pragoshin was outlining his objectives.

00:15:49.000 You didn't initially offer us a take on this, Aaron.

00:15:51.000 Will you offer us one now, mate?

00:15:54.000 Well, look, Prigozhin's hard to read, and there's so many theories about him.

00:15:57.000 Some people say he was working with Western intelligence, and there was Pentagon leaks not too long ago saying that Prigozhin had offered Ukraine the coordinates of Russian military positions.

00:16:08.000 He basically had betrayed his own side.

00:16:11.000 Now, I found that hard to believe because I don't think Ukraine needs to know where Russian forces are because the U.S.

00:16:15.000 tells them that.

00:16:17.000 Look, anything is possible.

00:16:18.000 I don't know exactly Purgosian's alliances.

00:16:22.000 On the surface, this could just be what it appears to be, which is that his group, Wagner, was facing a deadline to be incorporated into the Russian military.

00:16:31.000 Accordingly, Purgosian was going to be sidelined, and this was his way of rebelling against that.

00:16:35.000 Simple as that.

00:16:37.000 I don't know beyond that.

00:16:38.000 But what I do know is that this was not the coup against Putin that it was portrayed to be in Western media.

00:16:44.000 So within a few hours of Purgosian launching this revolt, all these neocon pundits who've gotten everything wrong

00:16:51.000 for the last 20 years from the Iraq War to today, and Al-Babam, Michael McFaul, all these people

00:16:57.000 were all saying there's gonna be a civil war in Russia, Putin is done, he might even already have fled Moscow.

00:17:03.000 And of course that didn't happen.

00:17:05.000 It took about 24 hours and this thing was done.

00:17:08.000 And the fact that this was not a threat to Putin can be I think best seen in the fact

00:17:13.000 that you didn't have a single person switching sides and pledging allegiance to Purgosian.

00:17:18.000 He had a few thousand of his own forces with him, but aside from that, I can't find a single senior Russian official who said that, you know, I'm joining with Purgosian and I'm on his side now.

00:17:28.000 So, that to me is a reflection that this actually strengthened Putin, although it embarrassed him.

00:17:33.000 And it did make him look weak, but ultimately he leaves this, I think, emboldened because now Purgoshin's in exile in Belarus, and his militia, Wagner, will be implemented into Russia's forces.

00:17:44.000 So the fact that there was this desperate rush to sign Putin's death warrant before even the developments could unfold speaks to, I think, first of all, the clamor for regime change in Russia that drives NATO policy in Ukraine.

00:17:58.000 And also, a reflection, as you mentioned, that the Ukrainian counteroffensive, which was supposed to turn the tide, is not going very well.

00:18:05.000 Understandably, because Russia's always had the advantage, and this was only a matter of time before Ukraine would run out of material, and also people to sacrifice. 0.88

00:18:14.000 All these young people being sent off to die in this useless war that could have been prevented and could still be avoided now.

00:18:20.000 So I was not surprised to see this hype in Western media, because they need anything they can to distract from how badly this counteroffensive is going.

00:18:28.000 In our chat, Bandi Boyan says, RFK Jr.

00:18:33.000 says he will free Assange on the first day.

00:18:37.000 We had a censorship industrial complex event with Schellenberger and Taibbi the other day in London where the significance of opposing the current agenda, global, legislative, it's been set up in several countries simultaneously, new censorship laws that will prevent free speech such as that which we are literally, I think right now, Enjoying.

00:18:58.000 How do you feel about that movement?

00:19:01.000 What do you feel the emergence of a figure like RFK means from somewhat from within the Democrat Party establishment, although he's sort of peripheral status is assured by some of his well established views on, for example, vaccines.

00:19:15.000 Do you think that this is a significant shift?

00:19:18.000 Do you think it will alter the conversation?

00:19:19.000 And if you'll forgive the pun, do you think it will move the needle?

00:19:25.000 I love what RFK Jr.

00:19:26.000 says about the Ukraine proxy war.

00:19:28.000 He's got a lot of courage and clarity there.

00:19:29.000 I hate what he says about Israel-Palestine.

00:19:32.000 To me, he parrots anti-Palestinian talking points.

00:19:34.000 And I just think, for a progressive, there's just no room for that anymore.

00:19:38.000 You just can't support the Israeli government and its occupation of Palestinians and call yourself a progressive.

00:19:43.000 I appreciate that he has changed the conversation on some of these key issues such as Ukraine.

00:19:49.000 And the fact that even before the primaries is underway, he's already polling really well.

00:19:54.000 That to me speaks with the deep frustration even inside the Democratic Party with the current government, this Biden government that's overseen this disastrous proxy war in Ukraine and has meanwhile neglected people at home.

00:20:05.000 So although I don't agree with RFK Jr.

00:20:07.000 and everything, I appreciate that he's there and I'm also excited that Cornel West Who's, I think, a progressive much more in line with my values is in the race as well.

00:20:16.000 And Marianne Williamson is also launching a challenge.

00:20:18.000 So I hope that all these voices get the chance to be heard, because clearly their presence in the primary reflects growing dissension and growing frustration with this current government.

00:20:29.000 And as for censorship, the movement to me has to center on Julian Assange, the most important journalist in the world.

00:20:35.000 He's being tortured, persecuted for his courage and bravery.

00:20:38.000 The U.S.

00:20:38.000 is trying to Not only bring him over to the U.S.

00:20:42.000 for prosecution and imprisonment, but I think they want to kill him.

00:20:45.000 And so I think we have to start, as you've been doing so effectively, Russell, with championing Julian Assange.

00:20:50.000 Thanks, mate.

00:20:52.000 Over in our chat, someone says, Cornel, U.S.

00:20:57.000 are now, whose avatar is a John Deere tractor, and I dig the John Deere.

00:21:01.000 Cornel West is getting zilch, says U.S.

00:21:05.000 are now.

00:21:06.000 I'm really interested to hear, Aaron, What you feel about the current story about the Trump audio there, what our take on it is, is that all of us basically expect that former presidents have access to censored material and probably

00:21:26.000 Share it in ways that are inappropriate.

00:21:28.000 There are stories about Biden having comparable materials.

00:21:31.000 And again, what's interesting is the lack of interrogation about the contents of the boxes, in particular the plan for a potential war with Iran and exacerbating the tensions between Israel and Iran.

00:21:46.000 What do you think about the coverage of this story?

00:21:49.000 And that's it really.

00:21:52.000 Yeah.

00:21:52.000 Well, because the media is obsessed with Trump, that's all they care about, they're going to ignore the substance of the story, which, as you pointed out, speaks to Trump revealing that there was a plan to attack Iran, and he was against it, therefore, I think, making himself look good.

00:22:08.000 But the media doesn't care about stopping warmongering, because they support warmongering.

00:22:12.000 They support it when the U.S.

00:22:13.000 goes to war against anybody, no matter the consequences.

00:22:16.000 And all they care about is ratings and all they care about is going along with this campaign to undermine Trump, not because they care that Trump is a misogynist or has bigoted views.

00:22:28.000 They don't think Trump is a suitable steward of the U.S.

00:22:31.000 global war machine.

00:22:32.000 He says the truth sometimes.

00:22:34.000 He says we're in Syria to take the oil.

00:22:36.000 You're not supposed to say that.

00:22:37.000 You're supposed to say we're there to spread democracy and fight terrorism.

00:22:40.000 He said recently about Venezuela that we should have taken their oil as well when he launched a coup there.

00:22:44.000 And they didn't care that he launched a coup in Venezuela.

00:22:47.000 They just don't like that he's admitting that he wants to take the oil and crush Venezuela's existence as an independent state.

00:22:53.000 outside of U.S. control. So that's why they're using cases like this with the classified documents

00:22:58.000 to undermine Trump. And whether he's guilty or not, I don't really care. I don't worship at the

00:23:03.000 church of classified documents. I don't respect the Espionage Act. I don't think it should exist.

00:23:08.000 And I don't care about these intra-elite feuds. I care about the substance of what these stories

00:23:12.000 contain. And as you point out, this story is more evidence that there is a clamor to attack Iran.

00:23:20.000 And it's very odd that we have to rely on people like Trump to stand up to it.

00:23:25.000 And we certainly can't rely on our media to cover it because they just don't care about stuff like this.

00:23:29.000 They just care about spectacle and taking a part in this long running lawfare campaign to undermine Trump, which began when they framed him as a Russian agent.

00:23:38.000 And even recently, we had this long report from John Durham, a special counsel, showing what a scam Russiagate was.

00:23:43.000 And there's been zero, or close to zero, introspection in US media because they don't care about facts.

00:23:48.000 They just care about whatever their agenda is.

00:23:50.000 Cool.

00:23:50.000 And I like the phrase, intra-elite feud.

00:23:53.000 Intra-elite feud.

00:23:54.000 I'm going to memorize it.

00:23:55.000 Intra-elite feud.

00:23:56.000 If you watch my content now, Aaron, you're going to hear me saying that.

00:23:59.000 Jay Gwynn Wilde says that RFK Jr clarified his views on Israel with Glenn Greenwald recently.

00:24:06.000 Love going out to you, Glenn.

00:24:08.000 Aaron can't have seen that, he says, so maybe he's offered an update on that opinion.

00:24:13.000 That would be cool if he has.

00:24:15.000 Aaron, thanks for joining us, mate.

00:24:17.000 You can follow Aaron on his sub stack, of course, and at The Grey Zone.

00:24:20.000 Plus, you can hear his fantastic podcast, The Useful Idiots Podcast, which I haven't been on in spite of seeming to have been designed for that title.

00:24:28.000 Aaron, thanks for joining us, mate.

00:24:33.000 Take it easy.

00:24:34.000 Listen, we are going to leave Rumble right now, but only so that we can have a little after party, a little get together.

00:24:41.000 We'll still be here.

00:24:42.000 Maybe you'll take your top off.

00:24:43.000 I won't be doing that.

00:24:44.000 Too much dignity.

00:24:45.000 It's always been your problem.

00:24:46.000 I'm going to take my top off, though.

00:24:48.000 Is this going to be like Bill Maher's nightclub?

00:24:50.000 Yeah, we're going to get proper high, proper smashed up.

00:24:52.000 Drugs.

00:24:54.000 What?

00:24:54.000 Yep, we're on Rumble now.

00:24:55.000 Do drugs!

00:24:56.000 Lovely old drugs.

00:24:57.000 What harm could they possibly do?

00:24:59.000 So if you're watching us on Rumble, give us one final Rumble.

00:25:02.000 Press that red button and join us on Locals, where we'll be reading your comments.

00:25:07.000 Very much like this one.

00:25:08.000 Ian Drummond says, Well, we'll read that on Locals.

00:25:10.000 especially as he's bravely come out to say the Palestinian Fall guy didn't kill his dad.

00:25:14.000 Oh, okay. Well, we'll read that on local.

00:25:17.000 Conspiracy theories you want, is it?

00:25:19.000 Press that red button right now.

00:25:21.000 We're going to just play the end credits, then we'll be there.

00:25:24.000 Later this week, my God, we've got exclusive groundbreaking content around the censorship industrial complex.

00:25:30.000 Me, Matt Taibbi, Michael Schellenberger, so-called journalists who stood up to that congressional hearing.

00:25:35.000 That's going to be this Friday.

00:25:37.000 Next week, we got Jack Dorsey.

00:25:38.000 He had to lay.

00:25:39.000 He's got bad signal where he is.

00:25:40.000 He's coming up on the show soon.

00:25:42.000 And we've got a guest that's so exciting that It's so exciting, so groundbreaking and revelatory.

00:25:48.000 It's such a world exclusive that I'm not even going to blow it by telling you yet.

00:25:52.000 It's big.

00:25:53.000 It sees me.

00:25:54.000 We've got fantastic coming up and you're going to want to be a Locals member by the time that happens because we'll do very exclusive stuff.

00:25:59.000 So if you're watching this on Rumble, stay Switch on, switch off.

00:26:01.000 Switch on, switch off.

Stay Free - Russel Brand - June 26, 2023

Aaron Maté (FBI-Ukraine Collusion)

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