Stay Free - Russel Brand - “Are You CONTROLLED OPPOSITION?!” Alex Jones Responses | Round 2 - Stay Free #248

00:00:00.000 so so

00:03:15.000 so you

00:03:23.000 so so

00:05:07.000 This is the best war money can buy. 0.95

00:05:10.000 They knew Putin was going to go into Ukraine if they tried to have Ukraine join NATO.

00:05:15.000 They've had U.S. 0.94

00:05:16.000 troops there for nine years, overthrowing the Ukrainian government, starting the war with Russia.

00:05:20.000 I'm not saying Putin's perfect either.

00:05:22.000 And now China's getting ready to try to move into Taiwan.

00:05:25.000 This is the big global crisis they need because the global debt bubble has already begun to collapse and inflation is exploding.

00:05:32.000 And so they need a worldwide crisis to prepare us for food rationing, energy rationing, all of it that they've already planned to bring in.

00:05:41.000 And so they're building this dystopia and Collapsing the borders, collapsing the family, drugging the population, electromagnetically poisoning the population to bring in this new order, this technocracy that they want.

00:06:00.000 And they've allowed tens of millions of Islamists to come into the Western world. 0.99

00:06:05.000 Many of them like most of the military age men and so they won't have to stage terror like they did on 9-11.

00:06:11.000 They're going to have real terror as these people start attacking and then just as we've seen with 9-11 it will then be used on the populations domestically will not be used actually to target the groups because at the top Hezbollah and Iran doesn't work for the West, but they work with the West, just like with the hostage crisis in 1979-1980.

00:06:33.000 It was later partially declassified.

00:06:35.000 The CIA was working with the Ayatollah Khomeini to keep the hostages and to do all that to then remove Jimmy Carter.

00:06:44.000 Not that Jimmy Carter was perfect, but it was part of a larger plan that the trilateralists at the time, David Rockefeller and others, had.

00:06:52.000 So there's a very sick relationship And it's come out that Israel's funded ISIS and al-Qaeda.

00:06:57.000 The U.S.

00:06:58.000 government's funded ISIS and al-Qaeda.

00:06:59.000 That's in congressional hearings.

00:07:01.000 They don't run them, but the leadership basically gets greenlit and funded.

00:07:07.000 The West worked with Saudi Arabia for a long time and allowed Saudi Arabia to fund al-Qaeda.

00:07:13.000 So they're creating boogeymen So the military-industrial complex can go out and actually kill real fighters, but those fighters work for leaders who are actually doing backroom deals with the social engineers.

00:07:26.000 The idea that crises are used to implement authoritarian measures is one of the broader ideas that not only have people in that rarefied and peripheral space that you've occupied, generating in the, as we've said many times in our conversation, an incredible audience and many, many imitators in the process, but it's also even with leftist and rather more Academic analysis, I'm talking about Naomi Klein, the idea that crisis is used to introduce regime change, just at the political and national level.

00:07:59.000 So a crisis of this scale, as you explain, could certainly be used to legitimise control of resources, control of energy, to start issuing social credit scores, to start Legitimising measures that were sort of, I suppose, broadly discussed, or at least in the spaces that I occupy, for the first time during the pandemic era.

00:08:21.000 I want to ask you this, do you think that because of independent media voices, whether that's Joe Rogan, Tucker, yourself, do you think because of independent media voices, and obviously more specifically and importantly, The audiences around them, the ability to highlight anti-establishment credible voices from Stanford and Harvard like Jay Bhattacharya or Peter McCulloch.

00:08:42.000 Do you think that the plan for the pandemic was interrupted?

00:08:50.000 Do you think they had intentions that were prevented from going ahead because of a resistance movement?

00:09:00.000 Well, 100%.

00:09:01.000 And if we look at what happened, the UN, the Club of Rome, the CFR, the World Trade Organization, all of them, the WEF, they all said for 20 years, that's how I knew.

00:09:13.000 I mean, one of my biggest predictions was they're going to release a virus, that people wear a mask, won't let you go to the ballgames until you accept a vaccine ID card that's used for the World ID, World Currency.

00:09:25.000 In Operation Lockstep, in 2011, the Rockefeller Foundation put out a lengthy report that you can go read, and they war-gamed this.

00:09:34.000 So, again, I wasn't predicting it.

00:09:37.000 I knew that these were the main war planners of their operation.

00:09:41.000 But because of so many prominent scientists and researchers and PhDs and medical doctors that did still have a Hippocratic Oath to do no harm, They made hundreds of billions of dollars.

00:09:54.000 They got a lot of control.

00:09:55.000 The hoax worked for a while, the pandemic, but then it wore off.

00:09:59.000 And now people see the damage that it was really a depopulation program that was just beta testing or testing the perch.

00:10:08.000 Like a parrot will check to see if a limb is strong enough to hold it.

00:10:12.000 That was a beta test for the more powerful viruses and things that they say are imminently about to appear because of global warming.

00:10:19.000 It's our fault.

00:10:20.000 It's going to come out of the jungles, hemorrhagic fever, Marfan's, you name it, you know, all this stuff.

00:10:25.000 But then once that happens, again, it's all our fault.

00:10:28.000 But instead, it's really coming out of the laboratories.

00:10:32.000 And then I got a major whistleblower that I personally, high-level TSA, told me in August that by the middle of September, they're going to try to roll out the mask and the protocols when the new booster comes out.

00:10:44.000 And we got ahead of that.

00:10:45.000 The public then noticed the next few weeks they did begin to roll it out.

00:10:50.000 It was a massive story.

00:10:52.000 And I'm very proud of that work.

00:10:54.000 One of the best things we ever did.

00:10:55.000 And now their new attempted rollout of protocols has been stopped 95%.

00:11:01.000 But they did indeed try it, which again added incredible credibility.

00:11:05.000 And then they said, Oh, well, Jones said we were going to have the protocols.

00:11:08.000 No, I said, this is our chance.

00:11:11.000 To stop them, we have the knowledge.

00:11:13.000 If people listen, if people watch, then we've got a chance the next few months to stop them because fool me once, shame on you.

00:11:20.000 Fool me twice, shame on me.

00:11:22.000 This time we didn't get caught with our feet flat.

00:11:24.000 And when you get the leaked documents and even the admissions at the World Economic Forum, there's countless videos where they're saying, okay, we weren't able to get world government completely in with COVID.

00:11:40.000 And global warming's not working either, so now we're just gonna cut the food and water off and have a bunch of big wars. 0.99

00:11:47.000 So they're now out in the open admitting that their plan is failing, and then they tell you the self-fulfilling prophecy.

00:11:55.000 If you don't Get rid of your car and eat bugs and not have children or basically commit suicide and euthanize yourself.

00:12:01.000 The earth's going to end in 2030, but the world as we know it is going to end in 2030 with their post-industrial world where they have all the industry, all the money, all the power, all the electricity, all the data, all the surveillance, all the robots, all the drones, all the AI, and then we literally have nothing This is their plan.

00:12:23.000 Their war against humanity, their war against renaissance.

00:12:26.000 That's why the book The Great Awakening needs to go to number one.

00:12:29.000 It just came out.

00:12:30.000 My last book went to number one, The Great Reset and The War for the World.

00:12:33.000 This new book is twice as thick as the We'll post a link in the description for your book right now, of course, Alex.

00:12:42.000 and the new Renaissance and how we transcend these people and how we defeat them.

00:12:47.000 So I'd love to push this book to number one because this book needs to be read,

00:12:51.000 it needs to be seen and I'm very, very proud of it.

00:12:53.000 We'll post a link in the description for your book right now, of course, Alex.

00:12:58.000 So what you're saying is, is that the pandemic was an attempt

00:13:02.000 to introduce a good many ideas, the global warming or climate crisis stories.

00:13:07.000 I have noticed and of course, part of my modality is to be as circumspect as possible

00:13:12.000 while continually acknowledging something extraordinary and terrifying is happening.

00:13:16.000 I have noticed that whenever these crises are brought to the forefront, the legislative or regulatory measures that are suggested always are imposed on individuals.

00:13:25.000 They never say And that's why these corporations and big institutions are going to stop doing this.

00:13:31.000 That's why these powerful interests are going to have to be redirected.

00:13:34.000 It usually comes down to ordinary people are going to have to be controlled in some new ways.

00:13:40.000 Interesting that that always seems to be the result.

00:13:43.000 Go ahead, Alex.

00:13:45.000 And there's one other key point.

00:13:46.000 The reason I talk fast and get frustrated is there's so much data and you're dead on.

00:13:50.000 I want to be clear.

00:13:51.000 The Earth's very strong.

00:13:53.000 It can regenerate.

00:13:53.000 Even if we got hit by giant asteroids, it just might take 10 million years.

00:13:57.000 The Earth, though, for us living on it, if the world was an orange, we're not even the skin of it.

00:14:03.000 The bottom of the sea up to the highest mountain that life can live on is just a tiny film on the surface of the planet.

00:14:11.000 Our atmosphere is tiny compared to the mass of the planet.

00:14:16.000 So this is a spaceship, and there is major problems, and we are losing species, and the oceans are polluted, and we are overfishing, and there are all these terrible things happening.

00:14:26.000 But the globalists set themselves up as the guardians of the Earth, but when you look at the policies, and the lithium mines, and the toxic waste dumping, and the GMOs, and everything they're doing is killing the planet, So they're not just coming after us, they're coming after everything, and they brag, we're gonna rewrite the code, we're gonna build a whole new planet, but first we've gotta sacrifice the planet.

00:14:51.000 They don't just wanna sacrifice humans.

00:14:53.000 These Satanists believe their will, their power, their nihilism, must first basically devastate the Earth, and then out of that cataclysm, they will metamorphosize into this uber-mention, the Superman, that will rebuild it. So they call it creative destruction

00:15:12.000 and they're giving us a self-fulfilling prophecy that the earth's going to end, we're all going to

00:15:16.000 die because we're bad and we deserve it, while the mega corporations doubled their profits during

00:15:21.000 the pandemic. While the average person lost half their wealth or went into debt, you can see the

00:15:28.000 direct correlation where hundreds of trillions were transferred to them, hundreds of

00:15:33.000 trillions were taken from us.

00:15:35.000 You look at the numbers, they're almost identical.

00:15:36.000 It's like one trillion difference.

00:15:38.000 So this is greedy war on the general public by these globalists who, again, call them fascists, call them communists.

00:15:47.000 They are luciferians that are fascist on the top, the merger of corporate power with the state, who then use a neoliberal And so let's just get rid of that. 0.92

00:16:06.000 We've got a much better system where we cut your resources off to save the earth, but you'll be happy because you'll be drugged out of your mind or you'll be dead. 0.98

00:16:15.000 So they're selling a dystopia, telling us it's our fault while they transfer everything to themselves and build a utopia for psychotic, greedy Satanists.

00:16:28.000 It is extraordinary that each of these crises in turn do seem to have measurable and demonstrable benefits for some of the most powerful interests on earth.

00:16:39.000 The big tech benefit during the pandemic, the big pharma benefit during the pandemic, the military-industrial complex, Obviously benefit from war that states are able to legitimize new measures and even if it's something as prosaic given the context we've covered in this conversation as the World Health Organization being able to put forward a treaty that enables them to take a 5% budget from each member state to censor anti-pandemic measure rhetoric in any of those countries to impose mandates for vaccines in any

00:17:12.000 forthcoming potential pandemic which you know and this WHO treaty is being sort of signed up for right now.

00:17:19.000 It's curious to me that while these centralizing events continue to take place usually in the form of crisis the pandemic wars etc that you say are going to exacerbate and going to lead to control of our food sources and water sources so that's one of the things we're going to have to look out for As well as limitations on people's individual freedom, likely in the form of 15-minute cities, things that are already being discussed, likely in the form of forms of digital ID, which we've already discussed, imposition of medical... I mean, Oxford's already bringing in the 15-minute cities.

00:17:50.000 And just this key point you made, I want to go back to this.

00:17:54.000 It's demonstrable mathematics.

00:17:56.000 Every globalist program starves people, creates more poverty, destroys the family, destroys critical infrastructure, while the globalists every time consolidate power and control, and now they say we're going to have reparations.

00:18:09.000 Now they say we're going to transfer the wealth of the rich to you.

00:18:13.000 What they mean is getting rid of a middle class that actually is a ladder up or a stairway up for poor people.

00:18:21.000 So absolutely, this is a war against the average person by people that are openly consolidating power and wealth in front of you.

00:18:28.000 And telling you you're bad and you're dirty and you're evil and they're doing it for your own good when they are, again, the most affluent, greedy, horrible people on earth who have that classic elitist selfishness of loving to recreate feudalism, which is neo-feudalism.

00:18:44.000 So this is really a neo-feudalistic system.

00:18:48.000 And if you go back to the movie Zardoz with Sean Connery, everybody should go watch it in the 1970s.

00:18:54.000 The Earth's been 99% depopulated.

00:18:57.000 There are a few hundred globalist elitists who thousands of years before were given life-extension technology, and now they have these marauding group of barbarians that this giant floating head flies around above that they worship.

00:19:12.000 It will then disgorge machine guns and shotguns and hand grenades to these modern Huns Who then will go out and make sure that they enslave and depopulate. 0.96

00:19:22.000 But then finally, one of the enforcers for Zardoz decides to actually get on the floating head and go see what's going on, and he finds a bunch of degenerate pedophiles completely out of their minds. 0.73

00:19:35.000 And then that ends the whole cycle.

00:19:37.000 And so, they told you in that movie what they're going to do, because they've got to give you the fine print, just like the FDA told you months before the shots, everything it would do.

00:19:48.000 That's fascinating.

00:19:49.000 Do you think that there is, you know, because on one hand I would, assuming that you imagine that the function of the mainstream media, including and perhaps in particular the Hollywood movie making machine, is to introduce ideas that placate, distract, numb people, but you think also that sometimes ideas are introduced to normalise an agenda.

00:20:11.000 Do you imagine that?

00:20:12.000 There's a very sort of famous thing, I think Massive Attack made it, of the Number of images of falling towers that preceded 9-11.

00:20:18.000 It's almost like there was a kind of... Do you think that things like that are unconscious forces emerging from our collective creative energy?

00:20:27.000 Or do you see that as further evidence of kind of social engineering and preparation?

00:20:32.000 Because if it is, why would you ...bother to make movies like The Matrix or Zardar or V for Vendetta.

00:20:38.000 Wouldn't you sort of say, don't make movies like that.

00:20:40.000 That's going to galvanize people into some radical anti-establishment movement and provide ideas of what it might look like if people to oppose power.

00:20:48.000 How do you sort of square those two ideas, Alex?

00:20:51.000 That's a very complex issue, and it's really the answer to the nature of the universe.

00:20:56.000 The globalists, or these dark magicians, want to be God, and so to be God they want to be 360. 0.97

00:21:01.000 They see the world like the space shuttle control board, where there's all these different political movements and organizations.

00:21:08.000 Most of them, they don't direct or control, but they can decide what to shut down or what to throttle back or what to promote.

00:21:15.000 So they're in a Hegelian dialectic manipulating this.

00:21:18.000 So a lot of people in movies and culture, meanwhile, they see a dystopia, so they go make a movie about it.

00:21:26.000 And the establishment doesn't care, because unless it's direct and hitting the conscious mind to activate the subconscious and unconscious, They believe it just predictively programs and normalizes it so that you will accept it and not worry about it.

00:21:41.000 In fact, I later learned, talking to some top globalists that I off-record have met with, they thought that I was basically doing revelation of the method, not for them, but unconsciously, and that I was more of a court jester, and that I was fulfilling a role to just kind of make everything a joke.

00:21:58.000 I wasn't doing that on purpose, but they thought I was a joke until 2016.

00:22:04.000 And so, now they realize they're not God, and movies like Zardoz, and Soylent Green, and V for Vendetta, and The Island, and just countless other ones, they put those out because they wanted to hit movies, and they know the truth of what they're building is going to resonate, because our unconscious and subconscious is hundreds, if not thousands of times more powerful than our limited cerebral cortex focus.

00:22:30.000 And so they're like moths to flame.

00:22:32.000 They can't help tell the truth, even though they want to lie.

00:22:35.000 And a lot of them, like Chris Carter, said, hey, Alex Jones is right.

00:22:38.000 I was approached by the CIA to put out this show about attacking the World Trade Center.

00:22:43.000 But Alex was talking about it in March when I was writing the script.

00:22:47.000 That's what he said.

00:22:48.000 He was like, whoa, Jones was saying all this.

00:22:52.000 And he reached out, like, did the CIA tell you this?

00:22:55.000 Because the CIA told me to do this.

00:22:56.000 And I was like, no, I just came up with it.

00:22:57.000 I mean, I just saw this.

00:22:59.000 So it was on a timeline while the CIA produced a show about this that airs right before 9-11.

00:23:07.000 And I'm literally just seeing it and saying it.

00:23:10.000 Before there were trailers, or they didn't even put it out, it was in the ether.

00:23:14.000 So the globalists don't control it, they know it's there, and they're trying to control it, trying to use AI to then scan human consciousness and try to see the algorithms so they can get ahead of it.

00:23:25.000 But every time they try to squash one thing, it's like whack-a-mole, it pops up back here.

00:23:31.000 And so that's why they tell the truth in the movies is so they can also mix in the lies.

00:23:39.000 But at the end of the day, no one is pure evil, I think, at this level.

00:23:43.000 And so people are rebelling against themselves.

00:23:46.000 That's why a lot of globalists actually kill themselves, or hurt themselves, or will actually turn against the evil and go public, then they get killed.

00:23:54.000 Because when you're a member of this organization, you leave it, they think they own you, that's when they kill you.

00:23:57.000 That's why I've been blessed, I've never been part of it, or ever signed on, or never made an agreement with them, because it's metaphysical.

00:24:02.000 But what they do is, they basically capture people early for power, get dirt on them and control them, and so many of their minions Don't even want to be part of it now.

00:24:17.000 So there's a lot of rebellion going on as well.

00:24:19.000 So it's thousands of different factors and it's this human struggle and that evil is not all-powerful.

00:24:26.000 Evil is only an aberrance going against the main central vision.

00:24:32.000 And so, that's basically why you see that in Hollywood culture.

00:24:35.000 Wow, that's cool.

00:24:36.000 That was a lot.

00:24:37.000 Bleeding hell, Alex.

00:24:38.000 Right, so what about... There's a few things I want to say.

00:24:40.000 A few things I want to ask you about.

00:24:41.000 I want to ask you about controlled opposition.

00:24:43.000 It sounds like you were almost being accused of being that, or people assuming that you were sort of like a jester figure.

00:24:49.000 I've certainly been accused of being controlled opposition before.

00:24:52.000 I want to ask you about that moment when, like, you know, Trump hit you up from the White House, and where you sort of stand on Trump now.

00:24:59.000 And I also want to ask you about, yeah, that idea of like, are you saying sort of like ethereal interdimensional contracts and decrees?

00:25:09.000 Oh, or are you saying like literal human politicians get put in sort of Epstein-like binds where they've been off to some sort of sex island and committed transgressions and it's used to blackmail them?

00:25:21.000 And how widespread do you think that is?

00:25:23.000 Because I know that's sort of almost one of the defining tropes of early Alex Jones.

00:25:30.000 Well, I mean, this isn't a completely organized operation.

00:25:34.000 At the very top it is.

00:25:35.000 It's more of a philosophy, more of an art form.

00:25:39.000 So there's many ways they corrupt people.

00:25:40.000 They approach different people different ways.

00:25:45.000 And so, you asked something, what was the first part of your question?

00:25:48.000 I asked first about controlled opposition, then asked about the Trump moment, then I asked about getting politicians in.

00:25:55.000 Oh yes, the Trump moment.

00:25:56.000 The Trump moment.

00:25:58.000 I'll go ahead, and again, this isn't about me, but this is why the CIA and the Justice Department used me as the first domino.

00:25:58.000 Sure.

00:26:05.000 They even wrote articles about the Wall Street Journal.

00:26:07.000 We're going to get Assange and Jones.

00:26:08.000 Once we get them, all the other dominoes will fall.

00:26:10.000 That was six months before I got deplatformed five years ago.

00:26:14.000 So I remember seeing a Rand Corporation meeting six years ago at a NATO meeting in Germany.

00:26:21.000 They had all the big top people from the State Department there and the CIA, and they said, we're going to censor everybody.

00:26:26.000 We're going to take control.

00:26:27.000 We're going to do it in phases.

00:26:28.000 We'll make it about a few figures at first that will demonize.

00:26:31.000 Then once people accept that, we'll go after them.

00:26:33.000 But when people ask him, I Controlled opposition or loyal opposition, 100% not.

00:26:39.000 And that becomes a distraction so that people don't have to look at what we're actually saying and what we're doing.

00:26:45.000 But Trump is a very interesting character and he scares the current establishment because they think he's a usurper and he's everything they want to be.

00:26:57.000 And they think he's somebody even more evil than them that wants to take control.

00:27:01.000 So they see him as real competition.

00:27:02.000 But here's what happened with Trump.

00:27:04.000 And it's currently going on now, and this is why the globalists hate me, because they're reading the emails, they hear the calls.

00:27:10.000 There were a bunch of speechwriters and people around Trump and another branch, which wasn't the Q-Thing. 0.97

00:27:18.000 The Q-Thing was a false expression of this, but there really was branches of the intelligence agencies and Groups that don't want to sell out to the Chinese model of the New World Order.

00:27:31.000 They want to have an Americana New World Order.

00:27:33.000 And there's a plan to not have an Americana New World Order, but have this European-Chinese globalist amalgamation.

00:27:40.000 And so there's struggles within the global power structure of who's going to be on top.

00:27:44.000 And so Trump was recruited into all of this.

00:27:48.000 And so up to like three years before he ran, Yeah, he was given briefings.

00:27:54.000 He was shown basically the script.

00:27:56.000 He already is pro-America and does believe in prosperity and doesn't like the globalist model of austerity.

00:28:05.000 So he's legitimate in that level.

00:28:08.000 And so then he was given basically The script to follow that was written, I know who wrote it, about 70% of what I say and what I do.

00:28:19.000 And so the globalist other arm figured out, and I was talking to Trump during the election way before, way before he got in the White House.

00:28:25.000 And I talked to the speechwriters and stuff that were there, and they listen to the show daily.

00:28:30.000 And right now, Trump's chief advisor—I'm not going to say his name, nobody really talks about him and won't say his name—he's a daily listener.

00:28:37.000 And so they tune into the show, they create transcripts of it.

00:28:42.000 And then they also send me stuff, and I usually agree with it, and I'll talk about it as well. 0.72

00:28:47.000 And so the media came out and said, Alex Jones is Trump's brain, and Alex Jones is this horrible demon trying to then hurt Trump.

00:28:55.000 And I really wasn't Trump's brain, but I was being used as one aspect to be able to sell the populist movement.

00:29:03.000 And I kind of figured this out right around the time he got elected.

00:29:07.000 And then I liked a lot he was doing, didn't like a lot of what he was doing.

00:29:11.000 But then when they actually came after him and tried to destroy him, Trump has now become a born-again Christian behind the scenes.

00:29:20.000 Has all these faith healers and preachers come in almost every day and they do these energetic meetings and Trump now literally believes in Jesus.

00:29:27.000 So they've radicalized Trump.

00:29:29.000 Okay, because he was I think Luciferian dialed in but not fully under the devil's control.

00:29:34.000 So whereas I got out of the devil's control when I was like 18, Trump's trying to get out of the devil's control about four or five years ago.

00:29:40.000 That's why you hear him talk about God more and all this, but I know the people behind the scenes.

00:29:44.000 I'll leave it at that.

00:29:44.000 I've been out to Florida.

00:29:45.000 I'll leave it at that.

00:29:47.000 But I mean Trump is Not in a mainline Christian view, but in an energetic view, really awake now.

00:29:55.000 That's why he talks about the deep state, the new world order, their plan to destroy you.

00:29:57.000 He knows he got set up with a shot.

00:29:59.000 He's halfway come out against it.

00:30:01.000 And so now they're really horrified of Trump because, you know, before he just wanted to be the turnaround guy, the corporate leader that saved America, saved the world, just did a great job.

00:30:12.000 And for him, he's really into optimism, really into Positive thinking.

00:30:17.000 That was the old Trump, you know, that listened to all those famous tapes and read all those famous books by, you know, people that were all about positivity.

00:30:25.000 But now he's transcended just being about positivity into something messianic, which, I mean, if you get a snapshot of Trump, he's a dark person, but also, I mean, look, Look, if anybody can be the Antichrist, and I don't think he's the Antichrist, but he's the type of person, also Elon Musk.

00:30:49.000 I mean, there's some definite dark energy around Trump.

00:30:52.000 And I know if I was ever controlled opposition, it was unwittingly being sucked into it.

00:31:00.000 And I think the jury's out on Trump, but they are definitely scared of him.

00:31:04.000 So Russell, I wish I could give you a definitive thing, but Trump Looks like what a Luciferian wishes they look like.

00:31:13.000 The confidence, the unending energy, the masculine pride, the determination, the dauntlessness of it.

00:31:21.000 Trump is...

00:31:23.000 You know, got the Scott and German genes.

00:31:25.000 You know, he's got what it takes.

00:31:27.000 And he has been through the fire and he's not back down.

00:31:30.000 And he loves the energy he's getting.

00:31:32.000 And so, whatever's going on with him, it scares this current crop of Obama and the King of England.

00:31:39.000 I mean, what a joke.

00:31:40.000 And all these people that didn't build it themselves.

00:31:42.000 Trump really is a guy that never ran for office and won the presidency.

00:31:46.000 And so they just hate everything about him.

00:31:48.000 But I think he's extremely dangerous.

00:31:50.000 And I think this whole thing's extremely dangerous.

00:31:53.000 And I pick up some really pulsating energies from him, like good energy, God energy, Christ energy, devil energy, Lucifer energy.

00:32:03.000 And so there's like a vortex around Trump that I'm not able to pierce.

00:32:08.000 And that's what concerns me.

00:32:09.000 Huh.

00:32:10.000 My God.

00:32:11.000 Alex, One of the things that's terrifying about this current time is that it's the constant tendency towards division.

00:32:20.000 The pandemic period created a lot of conflict and tribalism.

00:32:24.000 This war and the way that it kind of, I don't even just mean the war itself and its long history and all of its complexity, but the way that it's being rendered and reported.

00:32:32.000 Opportunities for people to unite and consider the potential that there is a global establishment that is Creating a dominator class, pursuing an agenda that's at odds and antithetical to the interests of most people on earth.

00:32:47.000 It's curious that as this situation escalates, as the world gets ever closer to, as you say, a dystopia and an apocalyptic vision, It's more and more difficult to find ways to unify people, to find ways to invite people to put aside their cultural identities, racial, religious identities, and form new alliances.

00:33:11.000 Do you think that what has to be proposed are new decentralized models where it becomes accepted that different cultural groups are going to live differently, as presumably we long did in Previous incarnations of civilization, and I'm not talking about Atlantis type stuff, I'm saying like earlier in our human trajectory, we would have lived more tribal lives, unified, but decentralized.

00:33:37.000 Is that something that we can offer the world when it comes to talking about solutions?

00:33:43.000 Because in a sense, otherwise, Alex, we're giving more and more esoteric and occasionally very Brilliant and very vivid, lurid and livid, apocalyptic visions that still seem to be conveying a terrifying endgame event.

00:34:00.000 I want to be clear, at the end of an age, I don't mean this is some new agey thing, but I mean the fourth turning, all the scientists, sociologists, political analysts, political scientists agree, we're at a

00:34:14.000 mega global realignment.

00:34:15.000 We're at a mega turning.

00:34:17.000 We're headed towards a singularity.

00:34:19.000 And so everything is compressed, everything accelerates.

00:34:22.000 And because of that, we're coming to the end of the old order.

00:34:26.000 Doesn't mean the end of the world, but for the globalists, they're threatening the end of the world if they don't have control into the next level, because the life extension, the incredible super sciences, the free energy, they want to cut all the energy off now and kind of create a feudal system where only city-states, that's their model, and they talk about that in Rollerball, came out in the 1970s with James Caan, excellent film, where there'll be no more nations, just cities.

00:34:52.000 Like 15 cities worldwide that have the resources.

00:34:55.000 We see this in Hunger Games.

00:34:57.000 That is actually revelation.

00:34:59.000 of the method where they have super advanced technology, but then the public can't even have toilet paper or running water.

00:35:06.000 That is the new world order.

00:35:08.000 And so yes, it's apocalyptic to see this all happening, but this is their attempt to bring in this dystopia.

00:35:14.000 But our psychic will and understanding has already understood this and has been ready for it for thousands of years before we make the jump to the next level.

00:35:24.000 And so I don't want to be apocalyptic.

00:35:27.000 That was your answer on the apocalyptic.

00:35:29.000 You say so many great questions.

00:35:30.000 What was the last part?

00:35:32.000 Can you offer a vision of decentralization where people have autonomy, democracy, personal... Yes.

00:35:38.000 Everybody instinctively knows this.

00:35:41.000 That's why all over the world, there's an exodus out of the cities that are the control grid.

00:35:46.000 Cities were crime, fun stuff, people, but cities were controlled by what the public wanted

00:35:51.000 and our desires.

00:35:52.000 Now they become the incubation centers, the beta testing centers for total enslavement,

00:35:57.000 eugenics, depopulation. 0.99

00:35:58.000 Everybody instinctively knows, I wish I could get to the country.

00:36:01.000 That's the instinctive thing, like the Bible says, when Antichrist comes, run to the hills.

00:36:07.000 So yes, we're epigenetically used to being around people like us.

00:36:12.000 It's not a racist thing in genetic studies, you name it, of rats, of dogs, of pigs, of whales.

00:36:19.000 They like things that are closely resembling them.

00:36:23.000 It's not like incest where they wanna be with their sister or their cousin, but their third cousin.

00:36:27.000 And so people are more comfortable in their own groups.

00:36:31.000 Doesn't mean that other people don't then join other groups, and over time the groups will come together.

00:36:37.000 But any quick bringing the groups together will create cataclysm and destruction and total war.

00:36:43.000 Even Henry Kissinger admits that.

00:36:44.000 So they're doing that for destabilization.

00:36:47.000 What I see is creating new tribes off of the basis of our old tribes of, I'm in the farmer tribe, or I'm in the mechanic tribe, or I'm in the locally built car tribe.

00:36:56.000 I'm in, and so people leave, they get self-sufficient.

00:37:01.000 You don't have to be self-sufficient in everything.

00:37:02.000 You know how to fix cars.

00:37:04.000 You know how to do electricity.

00:37:06.000 You live in the country.

00:37:07.000 You then barter for beef and for vegetables and for cleaning services, whatever it is.

00:37:14.000 You learn how to grow a garden.

00:37:16.000 And so we need to become self-sufficient, do what the Amish have done, 1.00

00:37:20.000 do what the Mennonites have done. 0.63

00:37:22.000 They're gonna be the future.

00:37:23.000 It doesn't mean you're a troglodyte that isn't engaged in technology,

00:37:26.000 but you limit it as a dangerous weapon system that you're plugging into the matrix.

00:37:31.000 When you go in, it's a serious mission.

00:37:33.000 But I would say 80% of average person's time should be spent on barefoot in the grass, planting crops, taking care of children, singing songs, staring at the stars, fishing, you know, passionate love with your wife and your husband, you know, passionate, you know, taking care of old people. 0.99

00:37:51.000 We've got to have empathy and love and that resonance of sacrifice, and then everyone's going to want to sacrifice to us, and it creates this feedback loop of total victory.

00:38:00.000 So absolutely, the answer is respect people that want to be in their own group, but no group then should be run over by the other group.

00:38:08.000 And that's why they're picking off because 93% of the world's not white. 0.99

00:38:13.000 That's why you hear whites are bad, whites are evil, and it's a bunch of old white men saying that because they want to organize all the brown people to come pull down what's left of the West because that is a New Renaissance ladder that could actually unify the planet and that model cannot exist for their dystopian model to be able to take over. 0.97

00:38:32.000 So we're the cure. 0.99

00:38:33.000 They're the virus.

00:38:34.000 So we have love and we reach out and we have cultural exchange, but we guard our cultures and defend it and promote it just like the Jews have done and make our culture strong because it's the strongest thing we have is This is the connection to our ancestors, and that is really the brain trust, the genetic trust, and we celebrate that. 0.52

00:38:53.000 But if you choose because you love somebody that's another color, another culture, do that.

00:38:58.000 But at the same time, recognize some people are going to want to be in their own group and celebrate that as well.

00:39:03.000 And then when someone wants to leave that group or be part of something or create a new group, we should also celebrate that as well.

00:39:08.000 As long as the new groups don't attack and say the other groups don't have a right to exist, that's genocide.

00:39:14.000 And the ADL, the Southern Poverty Law Center, and the EU are literally teaching that white people are inherently bad because of what color they are.

00:39:22.000 That is Hitlerianism inverted, and they're doing that because they know whites are the greatest wellspring, 1.00

00:39:29.000 and it's just true, of the Renaissance, of what sprung up in Europe after the Dark Ages,

00:39:34.000 and that frequency threatens them, and how sexy it is, and how powerful it is,

00:39:40.000 and so they wanna snuff that out so they can bring their control to the darkness. 1.00

00:39:44.000 And their real plan is to kill almost everybody that's not white. 0.99

00:39:48.000 And so there's a weird super racism at the top of it as well. 0.99

00:39:51.000 But imagine the ultimate Nazi doesn't come to you as a Nazi.

00:39:54.000 They come to you to save you from the white people, then they create a war between the whites 0.98

00:39:59.000 and the brown people, and at the end of it, they reign supreme after they release 0.99

00:40:03.000 the genetically engineered bioweapon to wipe out all the brown people, which they have, 1.00

00:40:08.000 and then they're gonna wipe out almost all the white people as well, 0.99

00:40:11.000 and merge with machines. 0.99

00:40:12.000 If there were two globalists left in a high tower 100 years from now, they've killed everybody.

00:40:17.000 Those two globalists hooked into the AI, you know, with all their facsimiles and all their robot forms and all their genetic forms that they've loaded their consciousness into, which won't even be their original consciousness, it's a fraud.

00:40:29.000 If there were two globalist Luciferians left, they would battle and kill each other for control.

00:40:34.000 That's Luciferian energy.

00:40:35.000 Not expanding endless galaxies, endless planets, endless freedom, just Quadrillions of humans everywhere, planning new planets, terraforming, endless life, blasting into new universes, into new dimensions, transcending.

00:40:50.000 They want to block all of that.

00:40:52.000 And so I go with the endless laissez-faire model of God.

00:40:55.000 I reject the prison planet of Satan.

00:41:00.000 You're amazing, Alex.

00:41:01.000 The only thing that I would dare to countenance or argue with or oppose, you know, because I'm a very, very open-minded man and I recognize you go into some interesting territory, is I feel like that when we talk about there being some inherent supremacy based on race, I don't think that's a good way to bring people forward, particularly not if we're considering a human history, like, you know, a broad analysis of human history and the... I want to be clear!

00:41:27.000 I want to be clear!

00:41:27.000 I was not saying that!

00:41:29.000 Go on, sorry.

00:41:30.000 I was not saying that.

00:41:33.000 I want to be a trillion percent clear.

00:41:35.000 The Chinese 6,000 years ago had more advanced literature and culture and systems than the West developed.

00:41:43.000 The ancient Mayans had incredible technology.

00:41:45.000 The Egyptians were brown and they are like some of the founders of civilization.

00:41:50.000 I'm not saying that it's inherent in white people.

00:41:55.000 What I'm saying is, is that the current Atlantean view, or Europe, and what came out of the Renaissance, and the scientific revolution, and then the Christian values of love everybody, not because of what color they are, but because they love God and we come together under God.

00:42:13.000 That is what's going to make us powerful.

00:42:15.000 And so the idea, as messy as it's been, of America and the free market and all this, that obviously got hijacked by robber barons and has been super corrupt, but just the idea of the average person having private property, being able to be free, worship as they see fit, the true liberal open society that Europe and America became in the last 500 years, threatens the globalists that are a bunch of old evil white men, mainly, Who are then trying to create a crisis and clash between embattled Europeans being attacked and the embattled people of the world having their resources cut off and then organized by the UN to invade.

00:42:52.000 They're creating a holy war between the three Abrahamic religions and they're creating a race war between white people and other people and all this anti-white stuff is designed to create a racist reflex response Against brown people who are wonderful people and have done incredible contributions and who are under attack and are the main target of the depopulationists.

00:43:14.000 So I'm sorry I wasn't clear.

00:43:15.000 That's brilliant.

00:43:16.000 Yeah, thank you for explaining that.

00:43:17.000 That was good.

00:43:18.000 I just feel like that because we're focusing so much on love, it's brilliant to make sure that we don't leave nothing on the floor.

00:43:22.000 Because I think we can take the incredible scope of interdimensionality, globalist cartels, the way that these wars are being exploited, what happened during the pandemic, dream visions and prophecies, New transcendence and new alliances.

00:43:35.000 It's been so amazing to talk to you.

00:43:37.000 Alex, do you ever meditate?

00:43:42.000 Yes, it's never when I'm trying.

00:43:45.000 I'll be driving down the highway and I just go to that zen spot of And then I'll realize I've driven past my exit 20 miles.

00:43:57.000 And I basically dream from the time I go to sleep to the time I wake up.

00:44:01.000 Most people just dream in REM sleep the last few hours.

00:44:04.000 And then sometimes I'll be on a hike and then I was only gonna hike like three miles.

00:44:12.000 I'll hike like seven miles because I just go into meditation while I'm doing that.

00:44:17.000 That's basically You know, where I do it, and it's very good to just focus on nothing.

00:44:28.000 Alex, before we wrap up, may I ask you a few questions from our live community on Locals, please?

00:44:33.000 Absolutely, I would love to.

00:44:35.000 Firegirl2020 asked simply, what is that picture behind you?

00:44:38.000 Is it a cathedral?

00:44:39.000 What is it, Alex?

00:44:42.000 They've got hundreds of images they just randomly put up.

00:44:45.000 So when I'm wearing a dark shirt, they put up a light image.

00:44:47.000 And when I got a light shirt, they put up a dark image.

00:44:49.000 I guess it's the Texas Capitol.

00:44:52.000 And can you guys punch up a wide shot of the crews in there?

00:44:55.000 So people can see this is for my show today.

00:44:57.000 And I don't know if you can see that, but that's what it is.

00:45:02.000 I guess it kind of looks like Breast or Grand Tetons there.

00:45:05.000 But that's just what they chose today.

00:45:08.000 Who's operating that jib?

00:45:09.000 Is that automatic or is there someone operating that camera now?

00:45:14.000 That is a... Well, it's technically a robot, but it's a person controlling it in the control room.

00:45:20.000 So a person's operating it.

00:45:23.000 Jay Gwynn Wild says, what does Alex believe is the most important thing each of us can do to break free of globalist corporate control?

00:45:32.000 Well, I'm going to say something Steve Bannon said a few weeks ago on his show.

00:45:36.000 And he said it at holidays, at Christmas, at Hanukkah, Thanksgiving.

00:45:42.000 We're not bragging, but we need to go and say we were right about the pandemic.

00:45:46.000 We were right about the wars.

00:45:47.000 There weren't wars for four years with Trump.

00:45:50.000 And really tell people, if you like inflation and open borders and crime in the streets and death, stay in this neo-feudalistic leftist death cult.

00:45:58.000 Because that's what they call themselves, is leftists.

00:46:00.000 They're the furthest thing from liberals.

00:46:03.000 And now they're all pro-war, pro-torture, pro-surveillance.

00:46:06.000 You know, just the horrible things that are going on.

00:46:09.000 And so I would simply, you know, tell people to be proud of the fact that you're just pro-human.

00:46:16.000 I'm a human supremacist, and I love everybody no matter what color they are, and I believe in their potential.

00:46:22.000 And so I just think we should be extremely positive And we should look at the fact that Russell Brand, and I had Russell on my show 11 years ago, and he was saying, hey, Alex, you gotta help red pill me and, you know, really enjoy the show.

00:46:34.000 So he's been talking about this for a long time.

00:46:36.000 Now he's dedicated himself and he's shooting right to the top.

00:46:39.000 And look at Joe Rogan, you know, I'm playing with him all the time.

00:46:42.000 And Joe's like, hold my beer.

00:46:44.000 I mean, Joe still thought I was a little crazy three or four years ago.

00:46:46.000 Now he's like, man, you're dead on.

00:46:48.000 You're right about everything.

00:46:49.000 It's not about me.

00:46:50.000 It's about Elon Musk now.

00:46:52.000 Sounds just like Alex Jones, but they're not copying what I say.

00:46:55.000 They don't need to tune into me anymore because they already see it.

00:47:02.000 It's like those hidden pictures where it's a bunch of dots on a painting, but once you finally see it's a deer or a mountain or whatever it is, you're like, oh, how did I not see that before?

00:47:13.000 You gotta move your angle, relax your perspective, pull back, open your mind, and then you're gonna see it and you're gonna see all of it.

00:47:20.000 And now you're not in the dark, you're now illuminated.

00:47:24.000 You now are not under their control.

00:47:26.000 That's why Bohemian Grove, their symbol's an owl.

00:47:28.000 It's the predator that hunts at night.

00:47:30.000 It can see in the dark.

00:47:31.000 Their illumination is the dark, but they've got night vision.

00:47:35.000 Our illumination is total illumination.

00:47:37.000 They're the counterfeit.

00:47:38.000 When I talk about those people, some controlled Christians say, he's illuminati.

00:47:41.000 He's talking about the light.

00:47:43.000 No.

00:47:43.000 The devil is the false light.

00:47:45.000 He was just the light bearer, reflecting God.

00:47:47.000 And he said, well, I am God because I'm reflecting it.

00:47:50.000 See the archetype?

00:47:50.000 It's all Jungian psychology, folks.

00:47:52.000 Read Carl Jung.

00:47:53.000 You'll understand that.

00:47:54.000 You'll understand everything.

00:47:55.000 And the hero of a thousand faces.

00:47:58.000 This is what it's all about.

00:47:59.000 So I would just ask people to then magnify the shows.

00:48:03.000 All the most popular shows are talking about this because we have a hunger.

00:48:07.000 And it's who we are.

00:48:08.000 And it's our truth.

00:48:10.000 And this is the real truth.

00:48:12.000 It's not a perfect truth because we're not perfect.

00:48:14.000 We see through a rose-colored darkly.

00:48:15.000 And I would just also tell people I'm in the Phantom Zone.

00:48:19.000 I've been locked up like General Zod.

00:48:22.000 The only way to find me is at InfoWars.com and Band.Video.

00:48:25.000 We have millions of viewers a day.

00:48:26.000 And it's only when people like Russell Brand let me out of the prison that I'm able to reach a wider world.

00:48:33.000 And he knows they're trying to put him in the prison.

00:48:35.000 That's why he's telling you to move to Rumble.

00:48:36.000 So this is where you shop, who you support, who you promote, who you identify with, and then you interface with us, and we identify with you.

00:48:46.000 This is symbiotic.

00:48:47.000 They're not taking random questions on CNN or ABC News.

00:48:51.000 Those are all staged.

00:48:52.000 This is unfiltered.

00:48:53.000 Russell Brand, when he's on Locals, gets up, take a break.

00:48:57.000 We're talking behind the scenes.

00:48:58.000 You see it.

00:48:59.000 Because we have nothing to hide.

00:49:01.000 We've turned loose.

00:49:03.000 We have Stepped into the light, and that's what you've got to do.

00:49:07.000 Oh man, that's a beautiful message to end on.

00:49:09.000 Alex Jones's book, The Great Awakening, is available now.

00:49:12.000 We're posting the link in the description for all of you.

00:49:14.000 There is Alex with that book.

00:49:16.000 Alex was at the forefront of this.

00:49:19.000 Alex is a person that has created many imitators, has brought to the forefront some incredible ideas, and has in fact piloted even the idea of being destroyed by the mainstream at the cost of bringing forward some very true information.

00:49:32.000 None of us are perfect.

00:49:33.000 We've talked about errors and we've talked about mistakes and we're talking about a future where perhaps flawed individuals can build beautifully together and avoid the condemnation, lies and attacks of an establishment media that wants centralized control, the price of which is your freedom.

00:49:48.000 Alex, thank you so much for joining us.

00:49:51.000 Russell, thank you so much.

00:49:52.000 They're trying to shut us down.

00:49:54.000 God bless you.

00:49:55.000 God bless you, mate.

00:49:56.000 Let's stay in touch.

00:49:57.000 Thanks, man.

00:49:57.000 Jesus Christ.

00:49:58.000 Thank you.

00:50:00.000 Thank you, Alex Jones.

00:50:02.000 What a beautiful conclusion to round two with Alex Jones.

00:50:05.000 What are your big take-home points?

00:50:07.000 Let me know in the chat.

00:50:08.000 Do you want a round three?

00:50:09.000 Should I go on Info Wars with Alex?

00:50:12.000 Should I?

00:50:12.000 Is that what you want to see?

00:50:13.000 Me on Info Wars with Alex?

00:50:16.000 Do ya?

00:50:17.000 Okay, so while you let me know that in the variety of chats available, I want to talk to you about this.

00:50:24.000 Does Joe Biden truly want to eliminate Hamas or does he have another agenda?

00:50:29.000 Is Biden's support of one side in this conflict yet another way to generate profit?

00:50:36.000 We've got Joe Biden downplaying talk of a ceasefire in the Middle East.

00:50:39.000 Elon Musk and a top US general have warned that Israel's killing of civilians will create more Hamas members and perpetuate ongoing conflict.

00:50:48.000 Let's just hope that Joe Biden is genuinely supporting Israeli people, as he was with Rick Crane of course, and not ultimately, please be quiet naughty dog, and not ultimately, I've told you, and not ultimately supporting American geopolitical aims for strategic reasons.

00:51:04.000 I'm sorry about him.

00:51:08.000 Elon Musk questions the validity of American foreign policy in the Middle East.

00:51:21.000 Meanwhile, Biden refuses even to say the word ceasefire.

00:51:25.000 Let's hope that he hasn't got a hidden agenda for exacerbating conditions in the Middle East.

00:51:32.000 Hello there you Awakening Wonders, thanks for joining us on our voyage to truth and freedom that has become more complex with every passing day.

00:51:38.000 How do we find principles of unification among us?

00:51:41.000 How do we find ways of discussing peace?

00:51:43.000 How do we find ways of sympathizing with people that have lost loved ones to terrorist atrocities while acknowledging that ongoing war is itself a devastating form of terror by another name?

00:51:53.000 How do we Together, respect the people that are integrally involved in this conflict, via nationality or religion, whilst finding ways that the rest of us might be supportive and valuable and provide talking points that lead to something other than more war, more death, more profits for the military-industrial complex.

00:52:11.000 Oh, well, let's not talk about things that don't lead to profits for the military-industrial complex.

00:52:15.000 Elon Musk has put his head above the parapet, saying that by continuing to bomb Gaza and try to exterminate Hamas, you will likely generate future terrorism.

00:52:27.000 Certainly a talking point worth considering.

00:52:29.000 Joe Biden, of course, as always, like he did with Ukraine, claims this is a humanitarian and ideological war.

00:52:35.000 Won't talk about ceasefire.

00:52:36.000 But is it possible that there are other Other motivations behind his advocation for US involvement?

00:52:41.000 And if there were, wouldn't you want to know?

00:52:43.000 What are the cost of a Gaza ceasefire if not Al-Qaeda? 0.97

00:52:48.000 No, no possibility.

00:52:50.000 Forget about it.

00:52:50.000 Very determined, very definitive.

00:52:52.000 Now, of course, if you're a person who's pro-Israel, you'll see that as advocating for your position.

00:52:57.000 And I would understand if you have deep historical, familial, religious reasons for that perspective.

00:53:02.000 Of course, I would understand that.

00:53:03.000 Whereas if you have connections to Palestine or perhaps if you have an entirely different perspective for other reasons, you'll think, well, why wouldn't people be talking about peace or at least considering peace?

00:53:12.000 Here's Elon Musk on the great Lex Friedman podcast.

00:53:15.000 Talking about other ways that the annihilation of Hamas could be interpreted and other outcomes that perhaps might be considered.

00:53:23.000 Like I said, somehow controversially you've been a proponent of peace on Twitter, on X. Yeah.

00:53:28.000 It's weird, isn't it, that it's become controversial even to talk about peace.

00:53:33.000 Is it possible to talk about peace if you're not directly involved in this conflict?

00:53:36.000 Of course, those that are inflamed, engulfed in emotion, lost in grief, bereavement and woe, I would not expect them to be able to say, well yeah, long term maybe, you know, I'd

00:53:46.000 understand any reaction from people that have lost their loved ones. But if you haven't lost

00:53:50.000 any loved ones, perhaps we should join in creating a communion of mutually beneficial

00:53:54.000 outcomes that we might discuss together.

00:53:56.000 So let me ask you about the wars going on today and to see what the path to peace could be.

00:54:01.000 If you're not going to just outright commit genocide, like against an entire people,

00:54:07.000 which obviously would not be acceptable to, really shouldn't be acceptable to anyone,

00:54:12.000 then you're going to leave basically a lot of people alive who subsequently, you know, hate Israel.

00:54:18.000 So really the question is like, how, for every Hamas member that you kill, how many did you create? 0.90

00:54:26.000 And if you create more than you kill, you've not succeeded.

00:54:29.000 That's the, you know, the real situation there. 0.85

00:54:33.000 And it's safe to say that if you kill somebody's child in Gaza, you've made at least a few Hamas members who will die just to kill an Israeli. 0.85

00:54:51.000 That's the situation.

00:54:56.000 But I mean, this is one of the most contentious subjects one could possibly discuss.

00:55:00.000 But I think if the goal ultimate is some sort of long-term peace, one has to look at this from the standpoint of, over time, are there more or fewer terrorists being created?

00:55:14.000 Is there a long term goal for peace?

00:55:16.000 Is it a possibility?

00:55:17.000 Is it something you even want to discuss?

00:55:20.000 You can see that people talk about this with a kind of weariness and exhaustion that I think comes from a good place, actually, not wanting to offend and hurt people, but wanting to have a discussion about peace.

00:55:28.000 And it's not just Elon Musk is advancing the argument that increasing aggression is likely to create future conflicts.

00:55:34.000 It's a pretty old idea, really, isn't it?

00:55:37.000 Because it's like blood feuds.

00:55:38.000 That's what this has always been.

00:55:40.000 This is what this continues to be.

00:55:42.000 And whilst, of course, I recognize that people that have different perspectives on this conflict say, no, this is unique.

00:55:47.000 The other side have always been uniquely violent at this place, that's oppressed, that's killed.

00:55:52.000 You know, at some point we're going to have to try to create some cartilage or at least an arena where we go, all right, okay, I understand that you have very, very strong views.

00:56:01.000 Are we able to talk about this at all without taking sides?

00:56:04.000 Or is it all you want is allegiance and alliance?

00:56:06.000 Because I think that is causing more war and more weapon sales.

00:56:10.000 Certainly, Hillary Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, they're all on the same side.

00:56:14.000 They all agree, keep war going. 0.92

00:56:17.000 That's what they think.

00:56:17.000 Here's someone echoing Musk's perspective from a surprising place.

00:56:21.000 Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Charles Q.

00:56:24.000 Brown, has expressed concern that Israel's killing of Palestinian civilians will help Hamas

00:56:27.000 recruit more militants and cautioned against a long war in Gaza.

00:56:30.000 Asked by reporters if the high civilian casualty rate will create more Hamas fighters, Brown

00:56:34.000 said, yes, very much so, and I think that's something you have to pay attention to.

00:56:37.000 That's why, when we talk about time, the faster you can get to a point where you stop the hostilities, you have less strife for the civilian population that turns into someone who now wants to be the next member of Hamas, he said.

00:56:47.000 Brown, who replaced General Mark Milley as the top US military officer last month, said Israel's stated goal of eliminating Hamas is a large order.

00:56:54.000 Mark Milley was the guy, I think, that was talking about whether or not there was a plan to engage Iran in hostilities around the time that Trump had those boxes.

00:57:03.000 Remember that?

00:57:03.000 No, that was a month ago.

00:57:05.000 I can't think about that anymore.

00:57:06.000 Weird though, isn't it, that people are saying, engage Iran in hostilities a month ago.

00:57:09.000 I'm not suggesting any of this is anything other than a legitimate war.

00:57:12.000 What a crazy thing to say.

00:57:13.000 It is interesting that we are now more seriously talking about engaging Iran in hostilities.

00:57:18.000 The Pentagon has said there are no limits on how Israel can use its US-provided weapons.

00:57:21.000 Wow.

00:57:22.000 100 US government officials from the State Department and International Development Agency have signed an internal memo criticizing the White House for showing an unwillingness to de-escalate the Israel-Hamas war.

00:57:32.000 It says that the Biden administration has doubled down on our unwavering military assistance to the Israeli government without clear or actionable red lines.

00:57:40.000 Well, luckily Joe Biden has never done anything except be in Congress forever advocating for all sorts of things for various reasons.

00:57:47.000 Let's have a look at Joe Biden's historic perspectives on this issue and see if we can detect any themes.

00:57:54.000 We stop those of us who support, as most of us do, Israel and this body, for apologizing for our support for Israel. 0.98

00:58:02.000 There's no apology to be made.

00:58:04.000 None.

00:58:06.000 It is the best $3 billion investment we make.

00:58:10.000 Interesting piece of language.

00:58:12.000 And also amazing to see Joe Biden so virile and terrifying.

00:58:15.000 Okay, so he's just explicitly saying it's about interests in the region.

00:58:18.000 so virile and terrifying.

00:58:21.000 To protect her interest in the region.

00:58:23.000 Okay, so he's just explicitly saying it's about interests in the region.

00:58:27.000 Now of course, alliances are historically and even customarily built upon a shared set of interests,

00:58:33.000 so there's nothing wrong with that.

00:58:34.000 Unless, of course, arms were being sold across that region in ways that might be irresponsible, particularly if 57% of the world's autocracies were being sold arms by American military-industrial complex companies, and even potentially arms that were involved in the initial atrocious attack that ignited this round of the conflict.

00:58:51.000 And all of those things are true, and the last thing is possible.

00:58:54.000 Israel is the single greatest strength America has in the Middle East.

00:58:58.000 I always say to my friends when they say those things to you, I say, imagine our circumstance in the world.

00:59:04.000 Were there no Israel, how many battleships would there be? 0.93

00:59:09.000 How many troops will be stationed?

00:59:11.000 You know, I used to say, early on, when I was a kid, I'd say, when I was a young senator, I'd say, if I were a Jew, I'd be a Zionist. 0.51

00:59:17.000 I am a Zionist.

00:59:18.000 You don't have to be a Jew to be a Zionist.

00:59:20.000 There's an interesting alliance and an interesting allegiance.

00:59:23.000 An allegiance that's explicitly about utility.

00:59:26.000 Isn't it?

00:59:26.000 If you found out that someone loved you only because they were able to use you and exploit you, how valuable would that love be?

00:59:33.000 I suppose in a situation that's incredibly hostile, I suppose in a time of national grief, I suppose after atrocious, unprecedented, terrible attacks, you perhaps wouldn't care.

00:59:42.000 And certainly I understand that perspective.

00:59:45.000 But when we're talking about prolonging and escalating these tensions, it's worth examining, I think, let me know what you think in the chat, whether or not the people that are supporting and prolonging these conflicts believe there are benefits beyond humanitarian and ideological ones.

01:00:00.000 Because you know what I mean by that?

01:00:01.000 I mean profit and power.

01:00:03.000 The security of Israel in the United States is inextricably tied and we will never ever ever abandon Israel out of our own self-interest.

01:00:13.000 He literally says it's out of our own self-interest.

01:00:16.000 Now I understand geopolitics is a complex business and is going to involve alliances but I wonder when people question Joe Biden's sanity, credibility, his His appetite for war, his willingness to advocate for escalating conflicts, for example in the Ukraine and Russia war, whether or not the same analytic can be applied?

01:00:35.000 This is a genuine question because as I continually say to you, I feel that our role here is to create a space where we might look with some degree of sanguinity, a complex, hostile, escalating situation that has caused so much pain and has the capacity clearly to generate so much more.

01:00:52.000 If any aspect of this is about geopolitical objectives, objectives of dominion and profit, you'd want that taken out pretty quickly so you could perhaps then deal with it for its own internal complexity.

01:01:04.000 Or do you just think, throw everything at this until it just destroys everybody?

01:01:04.000 Would you?

01:01:07.000 I don't know.

01:01:08.000 It seems to me worth considering.

01:01:09.000 Eight months before the Biden administration approved a massive arms deal for Israel amid its war in Gaza, President Joe Biden signed a directive prohibiting such deals for countries likely to use the weapons to attack civilian targets or direct violence against children.

01:01:23.000 That's interesting that it's not subject to the same directives.

01:01:26.000 Is that interesting?

01:01:27.000 The Biden administration's arms transfer decision and its concurrent push for billions of dollars of additional arms sales to Israel came less than a year after Biden issued a formal order to federal agencies forbidding weapons transfers to a country where it is more likely than not that the weapons will be used to engage in attacks intentionally directed against civilian objects or civilians or used to commit serious acts of violence against children.

01:01:49.000 That seems like a reasonable principle.

01:01:52.000 And when principles start to erode, like free speech being one of the principles now that you can see, for example, that on the left, where the left were quite happy about censorship issues when it involved right-wing talking points, the left now are, hey, you're censoring pro-Palestinian voices.

01:02:07.000 This is what happens when there are no clear principles.

01:02:09.000 If there is a principle, don't bomb civilian targets, we're not going to sell weapons to people that might bomb civilian targets or arm nations that might use them against civilian targets.

01:02:17.000 I guess you have to, what, recognize that that isn't a real principle.

01:02:21.000 No, we do do that.

01:02:22.000 We do do that.

01:02:23.000 And I know what the arguments are, because I'm trying my best to listen to all the variety of complex views.

01:02:27.000 If Hamas are in civilian places, what choice do you have? 0.51

01:02:29.000 I've heard it.

01:02:29.000 I understand.

01:02:30.000 Like, I recognize all of it.

01:02:31.000 It's actually increasingly difficult with such an ossified, polemical environment to even find the cracks through which the light of love can even be tentatively shone. 0.90

01:02:41.000 Children!

01:02:42.000 Love!

01:02:43.000 Forgiveness!

01:02:44.000 Of course it's terrible.

01:02:45.000 All of the events are terrible.

01:02:46.000 Deaths on both sides.

01:02:47.000 Anyone being killed through terrorist attacks or drone strikes.

01:02:51.000 Whether it's this war or other wars.

01:02:53.000 Or people saying that Al-Assad in Syria is killing hundreds and thousands of people in civil wars.

01:02:59.000 All of it's wrong.

01:03:00.000 All of it's wrong.

01:03:01.000 What are we going to do?

01:03:03.000 Is what we're avoiding saying here.

01:03:05.000 We are at our limit.

01:03:07.000 Now, as humans, there is no more love.

01:03:09.000 There are no more ideas.

01:03:10.000 Our only trajectory of progression is technology.

01:03:14.000 There is nothing spiritually to be learned. 0.97

01:03:16.000 We're going to just find a side and kill one another. 0.55

01:03:21.000 Because that's sometimes what it sounds like to me. 0.99

01:03:21.000 Is that it? 0.99

01:03:23.000 I don't hear people.

01:03:24.000 All I hear is people like, you can't call it two sides when one's in an open prison or how dare you deny Israel, Israel's right.

01:03:31.000 I don't want either of those positions because those positions seem really, really well occupied.

01:03:35.000 Forgive the use of that word.

01:03:36.000 And is it possible for us to look at a way that we might end this?

01:03:40.000 Is it possible?

01:03:41.000 And both sides almost scream no simultaneously.

01:03:43.000 And I start to think, actually, well, you agree on so much.

01:03:47.000 Okay, so let's tiptoe a little further into this nightmare.

01:03:50.000 Is anyone profiting from this conflict?

01:03:52.000 The New York Times recently reported, among other things, Middle East war adds to surge in international arms sales.

01:03:58.000 The conflict in Gaza, Ukraine and beyond may be causing immense and unconscionable human suffering, but they're also boosting the bottom lines of the world's arms manufacturers.

01:04:06.000 Is this something we want to address at some point?

01:04:09.000 There was a time when such weapons sales at least sparked talk of the merchants of death or of war

01:04:13.000 profiteers. Now, however, is distinctly not that time, given the treatment of the industry by the

01:04:18.000 mainstream media and the Washington establishment, as well as the nature of current conflicts.

01:04:22.000 Mind you, the American arms industry already dominates the international market in a

01:04:26.000 staggering fashion, controlling 45% of all such sales globally, a gap only likely to grow more

01:04:31.000 extreme in the rush to further arm allies in Europe and the Middle East in the context of

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01:05:57.000 Let's get back to some cold hard facts.

01:05:59.000 In short, the military-industrial complex is riding high with revenues pouring in and accolades emanating from the top political levels in Washington.

01:06:06.000 So a psychological global environment where an end to war, and I don't just mean This current war in Gaza.

01:06:15.000 I mean, war, that three-letter word, is unconscionable and unthinkable.

01:06:19.000 The United States of America requires war. 0.87

01:06:22.000 The military-industrial conflict is so powerful, so influential, and requires, in order to sustain itself, endless war.

01:06:28.000 So as soon as you start talking about it, is it possible that we should adopt funding this conflict between Ukraine and Russia?

01:06:33.000 When can we start talking about a diplomatic resolution to this situation that could potentially displace millions of people, create more terrorism, a migration crisis, death, horror, terror?

01:06:42.000 It's unthinkable.

01:06:43.000 Well, we just can't discuss it because it's impolite.

01:06:46.000 It's actually wrong to even talk about that.

01:06:48.000 I don't trust them.

01:06:50.000 They benefit too much from sustained ongoing war.

01:06:54.000 Raytheon CEO Gregory Hayes acknowledged recently that supplying Ukraine alone would yield billions in revenues over the coming years with a profit margin of 10-12%.

01:07:02.000 Beyond such direct profits, there's a larger issue here.

01:07:05.000 The way this country's arms lobby is using war to argue for a variety of favourable actions.

01:07:09.000 That include less restrictive multi-year contracts, reductions in protections against price gouging, faster approval of foreign sales, and the construction of new weapons plants.

01:07:19.000 And keep in mind that all this is happening as a soaring Pentagon budget threatens to hit an astonishing $1 trillion within the next few years.

01:07:26.000 It's a bit like the pandemic period.

01:07:29.000 A crisis occurs.

01:07:30.000 The crisis requires expenditure.

01:07:32.000 The crisis will not permit analysis.

01:07:35.000 Contracts are awarded, now I'm speaking in the UK for Moderna in particular, that reach years into the future.

01:07:40.000 10 year long contracts.

01:07:41.000 The crisis is bewildering.

01:07:43.000 The crisis is supposed to bewilder.

01:07:44.000 There are many people who I wouldn't even ask, could you look at this plainly after the terrible attacks on October the 7th?

01:07:49.000 Could you look at this terribly while your family members are in Gaza?

01:07:52.000 I wouldn't expect that of anyone.

01:07:53.000 Unless you are in that situation, perhaps you can bear in mind the general strategy of the establishment elites when it comes to the exploitation of crisis.

01:08:02.000 Do you think this crisis is somehow different and isn't being exploited?

01:08:06.000 Is this is the one true ideological crisis?

01:08:08.000 Over the years, far from being a reliable arsenal of democracy, American arms manufacturers have often helped undermine democracy globally while enabling ever greater repression and conflict, a fact largely ignored in recent mainstream coverage of the industry.

01:08:21.000 For example, a 2022 report for the Quincy Institute revealed, of the 46 inactive conflicts globally, 34 involve one or more parties armed by the United States.

01:08:30.000 One or more!

01:08:31.000 Sometimes they were arming both sides of a conflict.

01:08:34.000 So that's nearly all, like three quarters of the 46 global conflicts, one or more side were being armed by the United States.

01:08:41.000 So is it in each one of these wars?

01:08:43.000 I really believe in... just can you fill the word in after?

01:08:46.000 I really believe in...

01:08:47.000 right to have this war. If we didn't support our allies in, then that would be unthinkable. This war in is

01:08:53.000 unique from other wars, so that's why we have to profit from, excuse me,

01:08:57.000 perpetuate until we've get rid of all, put terrorists, freedom fighters, whatever, have been annihilated. Again,

01:09:04.000 I recognize that with the situation in the Middle East, it's uniquely complex and emotions are understandably very, very

01:09:10.000 high.

01:09:11.000 But so are profits.

01:09:12.000 In some cases, American arms supplies were modest, but in many other conflicts, such weaponry was central to the military capabilities of one or more of the warring parties.

01:09:19.000 Nor does such weapon sales promote democracy over autocracy, a watchword of the Biden administration's approach to foreign policy.

01:09:26.000 In 2021, the most recent year for which full statistics are available, the US armed 31 nations that Freedom House, a non-profit that tracks global trends in democracy, political freedom and human rights, designated as not free.

01:09:40.000 They're not free.

01:09:42.000 Are you free or not free?

01:09:44.000 The most egregious recent example in which the American arms industry is distinctly culpable when it comes to staggering numbers of civilian deaths will be the Saudi Arabian United Arab Emirates-led coalition intervention into Yemen, which began in March 2015 and has yet to truly end.

01:09:59.000 Between bombing, fighting on the ground, and the impact of that blockade, there have been nearly 400,000 casualties.

01:10:05.000 Now that does beg the question, why are these wars not regarded in the same way as this one?

01:10:10.000 Clearly there are people that oppose or support either aspect of this conflict for reasons that are difficult to fully understand, because 400,000 people have died in this conflict, and what are they?

01:10:23.000 They're military casualties, these people don't matter in some kind of way.

01:10:26.000 It's extraordinary.

01:10:27.000 We've really got a lot to learn, certainly I feel like I have.

01:10:30.000 Saudi airstrikes using American-produced planes and weaponry caused the bulk of civilian deaths from military action.

01:10:35.000 Bombs provided by Raytheon and Lockheed Martin were routinely used to target civilians, destroying residential neighborhoods, factories, hospitals, a wedding, and even a school bus.

01:10:44.000 You should be able to hear something like that and not want to go, where was that?

01:10:47.000 It was in this region.

01:10:48.000 Oh, well, in that case, it's wrong.

01:10:49.000 Like, you should be able to just hear it and go, yeah, that's just not right.

01:10:52.000 I mean, we all know what the world is.

01:10:54.000 We've all been alive a while, haven't we?

01:10:55.000 So it's like, okay, yeah, I get it.

01:10:57.000 War is terrible.

01:10:58.000 These conflicts are awful.

01:10:59.000 But that shouldn't be the end of the idea.

01:11:01.000 That should be, so now we're going to find ways of solving these complex problems in the same way as we would as if our lives depended on it.

01:11:08.000 Because they do.

01:11:08.000 And if you can't solve them, maybe don't make them worse?

01:11:11.000 When questioned about whether they feel any responsibility for how their weapons have been used, arms companies generally pose as passive bystanders.

01:11:19.000 Well, you know, I was just passively standing by and I noticed over there some bombings were happening and over there, I didn't barely really do anything.

01:11:27.000 Where did they get those weapons?

01:11:28.000 Oh, well, we sold those weapons to them.

01:11:30.000 But other than that, I've been very passive and just standing by really.

01:11:33.000 Passive bystanders arguing that all they're doing is following policies made in Washington.

01:11:38.000 That's what military industrial complex means.

01:11:40.000 The arms companies go Washington and Washington, I mean, they just say whatever they need to say to do whatever they're going to do, like with any issue.

01:11:47.000 Extraordinary.

01:11:47.000 Raytheon simply stated that its sales of precision-guided munitions to Saudi Arabia have been and remain in compliance with US law.

01:11:54.000 Wow, so governments are more powerful than corporations then.

01:11:57.000 Unless those corporations are able to somehow puppet governments.

01:12:02.000 The list of major human rights abusers that receive US-supplied weaponry is long and includes, but isn't faintly limited to, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Bahrain, Egypt, Turkey, Nigeria, and the Philippines.

01:12:12.000 Such sales can have devastating human consequences.

01:12:14.000 They also support regimes that all too often destabilise their regions and risk embroiling the United States directly in conflicts.

01:12:21.000 US-supplied arms also far too regularly fall into the hands of Washington's adversaries.

01:12:25.000 As an example, consider the way that the UAE transferred small arms and armoured vehicles produced by American weapons makers to extremist militias in Yemen, with no apparent consequences, even though such acts clearly violate American arms export laws.

01:12:38.000 Sometimes recipients of such weaponry even end up fighting each other.

01:12:41.000 There's when Turkey used US-supplied F-16s in 2019 to bomb US-backed Syrian forces involved in the fight against Islamic State terrorists.

01:12:51.000 It's like a weird, mad game! 0.84

01:12:53.000 You might as well have just blown them up in the factory!

01:12:55.000 Who's benefiting from this?

01:12:56.000 Oh no, I get it.

01:12:57.000 Such examples underscore the need to scrutinize U.S.

01:12:59.000 arms exports far more carefully.

01:13:01.000 Instead, the arms industry has promoted an increasingly streamlined process of approval of such weapon sales, campaigning for numerous measures that would make it even easier to arm foreign regimes, regardless of their human rights records or support for the interests Washington theoretically promotes.

01:13:15.000 They want to make it even easier than it is now, even though the majority of conflicts appear to own at least some American Armament and Pentagon budgets are moving towards one trillion dollars a year.

01:13:25.000 What they're obviously advocating for is an escalation.

01:13:27.000 So the escalation or lack of ceasefire in one conflict, whether you mean Ukraine, Russia or Israel and Hamas by that, that's consistent with a policy and a business model, a business model that requires ongoing growth and escalation.

01:13:39.000 Yes, your tax dollars are being squandered in the rush to build and sell ever more weaponry abroad.

01:13:43.000 Worse yet, for every arms transfer that serves a legitimate defensive purpose, there's another, not to say others, that fuels conflicts and repression, while only increasing the risk that as the giant weapons corporations and their executives make fortunes, this country will become embroiled in more costly foreign conflicts.

01:13:59.000 Rather than romanticising the military-industrial complex, isn't it time to place it under greater democratic control?

01:14:04.000 After all, so many lives depend on it.

01:14:07.000 I suppose what's being said there is that there could be greater regulation of the military-industrial complex.

01:14:12.000 Some ways that that could take place is maybe if they weren't able to donate to political parties.

01:14:16.000 Maybe if people in Congress weren't able to own stocks and shares in them. 0.94

01:14:20.000 Maybe if the American public, and indeed the public of any nation, were able to vote about how arms are allocated and how wars are funded.

01:14:28.000 Whether or not you believe in the building of American infrastructure, schools, hospitals, roads, whatever's important in your district.

01:14:34.000 All those things are abstract.

01:14:35.000 They're off the agenda.

01:14:36.000 We live in an age of austerity, except for when it comes for war.

01:14:39.000 There, we live in an age of abundance, when there's always enough of your taxpayer dollars for any conflict.

01:14:44.000 I've told you before, when it comes to this complex conflict, I only want to advocate for the best outcome for everyone involved, because there is no good outcome for one side.

01:14:53.000 There isn't one.

01:14:53.000 It will escalate in one way or another.

01:14:55.000 The only organisations that benefit from ongoing, escalating, unscrutinised war are the military-industrial complex.

01:15:01.000 And for that to happen, it requires a legacy media that continually conveys their perspective, or whatever perspective is desired.

01:15:08.000 Washington, ultimately being financially tied to the military-industrial complex, or being a vital component of it, so connected to it, it's impossible to see the join.

01:15:16.000 And our willingness to tolerate war around the world, It's just a necessary and ordinary part of everyday life.

01:15:23.000 Is it possible that globalism has to come to a kind of end?

01:15:26.000 That we have to now recognize that we live in smaller communities, maybe a nation, maybe a state or a county or a town or a village.

01:15:34.000 Maybe we have to find ways of bringing power as close to the people affected by it as possible, so that these global entities can't conduct nefarious missions around the world, finding whatever narrative is required to perpetuate it without ever being duly accountable.

01:15:49.000 But that's just what I think.

01:15:50.000 Why don't you let me know what you think in the comments and the chat below.

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