00:06:51.000Christy, when you were making your way to the United States of America from Bethlehem, did this form part of any vision that you had for what might take place?
00:07:03.000Reminding me of my dad shaving his own beard?
00:10:42.000So, Christy, man, it's been like you've been staying in this country for two or three weeks now.
00:10:49.000We've had you come on every time that we're here.
00:10:50.000The reason for this is because every time that you're on the show, I feel like I get a little more data on what I'd call deep, deep theology.
00:11:03.000I reckon some of the things that I'd like your insights on is when you have our, let's call him for the sake of argument, an ecclesiastical Indiana Jones marauding around the planet in a safari shirt, digging up pyramids, hanging around tombs and stuff, talking about intergalactic alien warfare.0.56
00:11:23.000And on the show, we've had Michael Peters in his peculiar sort of Gnostic way taking us deep into scripture and gay blinds.
00:11:31.000I'd love you to, if you can, Christy.0.82
00:11:34.000Follow up on some of the ideas that have been there that have come up over the course of these wild and carooming conversations.
00:11:42.000What do you think, for a start, about some of the Book of Enoch, Book of Daniel, Revelations, references to interdimensional beings, and how Timothy there is covering those things as a kind of something that we're going to get empirical evidence of?
00:12:02.000Well, I wish I had a lot of time to talk about this, but what Timothy was covering was.
00:12:09.000What I bring to the table is slightly just more insight and color to the picture.
00:12:14.000Most of the substance is actually kind of obviously true.
00:12:19.000But what I would add onto the picture is that with pictographic form, you start understanding the meaning behind names and names, usually given in Abba's kingdom, as we understand, as descriptive of your functionality and your role.
00:12:35.000And that's why I keep going back to the belief system that when Abba kicks someone out of his kingdom, he removes his name simply because there's nothing violent.
00:12:56.000And that's how I believe and why Jesus said, I saw the one who wasn't to be named come out of Abba's kingdom, because he was saying he doesn't have a function, in short.
00:13:08.000So go back to the book of Watchers in the book of Enoch, the first one.
00:13:25.000And I mentioned when I was on the call and on the podcast a couple of weeks ago is that there's their belief system that there are three different rankings of angels.
00:13:36.000Sherub, Sherubim, Seraphim, and Teraphim.
00:13:38.000Now, the Teraphim, the Teraphim is what we call as watchers.
00:13:42.000And they are the ones designed to be our guardian angels.
00:15:02.000Like we know Gabriel, Raphael, they all can manifest to some extent in a man like form, but the only angels that could become human beings are, or the ranking, as we know, are the Watchers, which are the Guardian Angels, which are the Teraphim.
00:15:21.000Yeah, they sound a little bit shape shifty, these guys.
00:15:43.000I'd say the whole land is, and it's something about it that is cyclical.
00:15:47.000So certain events that took place, because they didn't have a GPS, so they knew where the Israelites must have entered.
00:15:57.000By Joshua into from Jordan into cross the river of Jordan, Jesus would have gone there to be baptized.
00:16:05.000Elijah would have, you know, ascended to heaven from there.
00:16:09.000So, all these geographical places carry a certain flavor, almost like energy and rhythm, that when you walk into them, you do get not just your imagination triggered, but also your whole being feels things in that land.
00:16:29.000I mean, on a superficial level, a lot of people call it the Holy Land.
00:16:32.000There's not a lot of holiness the way we think, as in, human beings are making it wherever we go, we bring our kind of holiness into it.
00:16:43.000But there's, if you trip that back and the people who are living there and look at the spaces and the places and the events that took place there, you would feel a weight that I have never experienced anywhere else.
00:17:12.000Because in itself, this reference to bread, the bread of life, and this place of bread, Has transformation in it, doesn't it?
00:17:21.000The crushed seed and the raising and the incorporation of the ethereal, or at least into air when bread rises.
00:17:28.000So there is, um, yes, a sort of a kind of a secondary accessible tune that you will that you can detect if you're present and you're awake there.
00:17:38.000Indeed, since we, um, earlier on have a look at this clip, uh, were messing around with sound baths, or we're not messing around with them, we were immersed in them, weren't we, Kenzie?
00:19:10.000From that moment on, I've been in a kind of a different state.
00:19:14.000It's as if it's kind of bought into our presence a sort of an awareness of the sacred.
00:19:19.000I find that kind of this continual shifting between levels like exhausting.
00:19:25.000It's only when I listen to that noise I realise, oh my God, like noise, tune, harmony, sacred sound.
00:19:30.000It's only then I realise, oh my God, I'm exhausted.
00:19:34.000I'm doing this sort of whole thing on fumes.
00:19:37.000I'm just like, you know, I arrive here shattered.
00:19:41.000And then, like, just sort of grab onto something and go, like, and hopefully, I can sort of like get two hours of content, but there's a point where it kind of runs out.
00:19:50.000And I think that's sort of what's happened.
00:19:51.000The reason that we keep talking about the apocalypse is because I think, are you still up there?
00:19:55.000Yeah, I'm still here, but you get down.
00:19:58.000Like, you know, the thing that I think that what we're all experiencing, sort of individually and collectively, because how could there be separation ultimately, is that we are reaching what, again, Terrence McKenna called the object at the end of time.
00:20:13.000It's as if we're being pulled towards something.
00:20:15.000Now, when our man Timothy there a little earlier said, he was talking, you know, when we make that trend, and maybe it was Michael, I can't remember, I've had so many conversations today, but when we move from Kronos to Kairos, we're moving into, you know, in the Greek at least, and I would love to know how that's handled in Hebrew or in some proto Sinite language that you might have access to.
00:20:41.000We're moving into a different quality of time, it seems like now.
00:20:45.000Like things are heightening, hastening, fluctuating.
00:20:49.000Like it's a hazy, fluxy, different time that we're moving into, I sense.
00:20:55.000We did discuss time and the idea of time together.
00:20:57.000And the concept of Kairos is actually, after all, about an event.
00:21:07.000Time as we know it actually only exists within us.
00:21:11.000Because if you remove humanity, you'll just have the moon and the stars.
00:21:15.000And we're circling around them, and there's no numbers and no seconds and no minutes counting it.
00:21:21.000We are the ones, our bodies actually have the clocks within us.
00:21:26.000So, when you talk about the idea in Hebraic mindset when it comes to time, actually, time isn't as important as the event that defines it.
00:21:36.000And that's why we call a Kairos moment.
00:21:39.000It's like something happened that defined and brought substance to that moment.
00:21:45.000Otherwise, That moment is quite a thing, you can do with anything you want, and it's flexible, it's dynamic, and it's fleeting as well sometimes.
00:21:54.000So it doesn't have the depth, but it's what you do in that moment when you were born, basically, is the day that the act of you being birthed is what defined your birthday.
00:23:02.000It was an end of a covenantal era and a beginning of one.
00:23:07.000So, obviously, if we look at precedence, when Jesus experienced the ultimate form of sin, which is, in my opinion, separation, because he didn't have any sin in him, he went down to what we call this shul, which is a temporary place before hell.
00:23:27.000And he did preach to people who were in the Noahic covenant, well, Noahic time at the time.
00:23:34.000And a lot of them believed in him, so he took them out of shul and took them out into.
00:23:44.000And alongside of that, there was a moment of the resurrection of some of the souls of the people who people recognized that they were known prophets or known, you know, believers of the Hebraic faith at the time.
00:24:02.000And they were resurrected and walking around Jerusalem's cities, I mean, streets.
00:24:10.000I think a sign to say that we are headed towards a different era after this covenant that we're not going to be able to fathom until we see Him return here and see the manifestation of a new creation.
00:24:26.000That we transcend our physical beings and our spirits can walk around freely outside of those bodies, but yet we're not there to manifest the completion, wholeness of this until we come.
00:24:43.000He comes back and reconciles us with the new creation he's given us, if that makes any sense.
00:25:56.000Let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles, and let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, fixing our eyes on Jesus, the pioneer and perfecter of our faith, for the joy that was set before him.
00:26:11.000He endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
00:26:18.000Consider him who endured such opposition from sinners, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart.
00:26:59.000Or did you find out it's just got better and better since I took that Faustian pact?
00:27:03.000Since I did that deal with the devil, my life's getting better and better and improving.
00:27:06.000No, once you're in there, you realize it's not real.
00:27:09.000I think of the immediate thing I think of is how much I sometimes so want to eat a McDonald's.
00:27:16.000And even when we go on those long drives, whether it was to the hospitals or whatever, and we're on those 10 hour drives, and it's like just right towards the end, you cave and you think, let's just have a Wendy's or whatever.
00:27:28.000You know, when I'm, yeah, when I'm telling, yeah, like when I'm saying, Oh, no, when I, cause I'm the one suggesting it.
00:27:33.000We're in the car, we're driving along.
00:27:35.000And then there just comes a point, you go with good healthy snacks and then just right towards the end, good healthy snacks.
00:28:30.000No, but the point being, When we get nearly towards the end of a trip and we've done so well and you're nearly there and you've maybe done a couple of loose stops, but you haven't, you've eaten good food and you're not going to do it and you're not going to cause something.
00:28:41.000And then just right at the end, I think I have to, I cannot hold it any more.
00:28:46.000I need a double whopper, whatever it's called.
00:28:49.000You know, they're called Dave for your, for your attention.
00:29:11.000And it's really good, but it doesn't feel good after.
00:29:15.000However, whatever way you look, it's good when you taste it.
00:29:18.000It's good when you first eat it and then about, I don't know, minutes after you've finished it and you're greasy and you're trying to find out where to put the trash.
00:30:40.000The reason I brought up fast food and the feeling of it being sinful is the only reason I'm thinking of fast food is because of the advertising on the side of the road.
00:30:47.000The worldliness of the advertising on the side of the road.
00:30:56.000That you don't have enough self determination to resist a Wendy's advert.
00:30:59.000And somehow the Wendy's sign itself is responsible for you wandering into the Wendy's, ordering a double Dave burger without, might I say, even the courtesy to pick up some napkins and then be surprised that you're covered in grease.
00:32:32.000Listen to this from our beloved Paul, Corinthians 7, 4 7.
00:32:37.000But we have this treasure in jars of clay.
00:32:40.000In fact, I'm going to start a line at verse earlier because it gives you For God, who said, Let light shine out of darkness, made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of God's glory displayed in the face of Christ.
00:32:53.000But we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that this all surpassing power is from God and not from us.
00:33:00.000We are hard pressed on every side, but not crushed, perplexed, but not in despair, persecuted, but not abandoned, struck down, but not destroyed.
00:33:11.000We always carry around in our body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be revealed in our body.
00:33:21.000For we who are alive are always being given over to death for Jesus' sake, so that his life may also be revealed in our mortal body.
00:33:29.000So then, death is at work in us, but life is at work in you.
00:33:35.000So then, death is at work in us, but life is at work in you.
00:33:39.000Oh, so he's giving them a bit of a chastising, they've been a bit too lively.
00:33:42.000But I love this persecuted but not abandoned.
00:36:04.000Michael, the reason I wanted to get you back for this, isn't it?
00:36:08.000I just want you, the people that have been in the audience for the entire show, to just remember that the moment, right, I want you to do this in quick succession.
00:36:16.000The moment where I was talking to Nicholas outside, I wanted to have that image.
00:36:19.000Then the bit where there was a beard being trimmed.
00:37:08.000So, a way to describe this idea of being born a second time, that to share DNA with God as opposed to just the mammal thing, to be born a second time, you must be born a second time, Jesus said.
00:37:24.000To understand that is a little bit difficult for us, but the book Flatlands is basically a mathematical modeling book.
00:37:32.000If you're two dimensional, Flatlands, if you're a plane, say a piece of paper, and a sphere passes through to visit you, what's it look like if you live on this plane, this two dimensional space?
00:37:46.000Well, it looks like a dot that turns into a circle, that turns into a bigger circle, that turns into a smaller circle, that turns into a dot, and then it disappears.
00:37:54.000So, how do you describe that if you live in a mammal world?
00:37:59.000If you're blind, how do you describe a rainbow?
00:38:01.000If you live in a mammal world that has not been born a second time, how do you understand the kingdom of God on earth as it is in heaven?
00:38:23.000So the nature of it is I will have this man be king over me, I will have the faith of Abraham.
00:38:31.000I will give my life to a God that asks me to break the idols and sacrifice Isaac if necessary, not because he's masochistic or mean, because he wants us to trust him more than we trust ourselves.
00:38:42.000The tree of knowledge is I want to be a God knowing good and evil.
00:38:45.000The tree of life is I trust the maker of the heavens and the earth more than I trust myself.
00:39:58.000So he was what everybody was always waiting for.
00:40:02.000All of eternity, all of creation, the stones along the road bursting into praise.
00:40:07.000I can make biological sons of Abraham out of a rock.
00:40:10.000But I want you to have the faith of Abraham, and if you'll deny your very self and come after me, take up your cross, then you can be born a second time and share DNA from heaven.0.70
00:40:21.000That's exactly why Jesus was born of a virgin.0.59
00:40:25.000That is why he was born of a virgin, so that he could demonstrate what it looks like to live in the full measure of the stature of one who shares heaven life with earth life.
00:40:35.000And we can share that life, explore that life, and share that life.
00:40:39.000And then when he left, And he was risen from the dead, he then could scale and pour out that life amongst all of us.
00:41:03.000I asked an 86 year old man this, his name was Norm, at an ice cream place called Brewster's in Knoxville about two weeks ago.
00:41:10.000He just walked up while we were talking about things like this at a table, and he said, Man, I want in on this conversation.
00:41:17.000So, you know, as we talked about it, we talked about what all the things Jesus said to all who believe rivers of alive water gushing from the abdomen.
00:41:26.000Well, you know, there's 50 of those that are something like that that Jesus promised.
00:41:31.000And I said, You've been around 86 years.
00:41:32.000You're as fervent as anybody I've ever met in my life.
00:41:38.000I hope I'm like that if I make it to anywhere near that age.
00:41:42.000And I said, Do you know anybody in all these years of being a passionate follower of Jesus?
00:41:46.000That you would describe as an outside observer, or they would even be capable of describing themselves as rivers of living water, the dynamo, the torrents of alive water that can light a city.
00:41:59.000You know, do you know anybody like that?
00:42:11.000That's heaven DNA come to earth, and as we squash the mammal life and allow the The release of the Spirit, as Watchman Nee would say, as we open up our heart, break the alabaster jar of repentance of the brokenness of only God.
00:42:28.000That kind of gratitude in life opens up the portals of heaven that we can experience and the sons of God can be manifest.
00:42:37.000We can live that kind of life with ever increasing glory as we behold Him by the Lord who is the Spirit.
00:42:42.000It's passive by the Lord who is the Spirit, but our job is to behold Him and trust Him as we walk through the pieces of the job, as David said, as.
00:42:51.000As God said to Abraham, is to trust, not to do per se.
00:42:55.000That'll take care of itself if you release God to be who God wants to be inside of us.0.78
00:43:00.000So the second Adam brought a whole new race.0.87
00:43:04.000He didn't instruct us as to the proper doctrine compared to the Hindus and the Muslims and the, well, you know, that's a different story, but compared to the other world religions or even atheism.0.97
00:43:14.000I knew lots of atheists at Harvard, but not one of them ever said, wow, you know, if you met Jesus, who would you be?