00:00:25.000Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.
00:00:28.000Over the last few days, in fact, I don't know when it was because this is pre-tape, but at some point I was in Washington, D.C. During that time, I did what's called a fireside chat with Dr. Oz.
00:00:39.000I don't know what they're trying to conjure when they call it a fireside chat, I suppose intimacy, but it was not beside a fire.
00:00:47.000It was on a stage, it was in front of journalists, it was at a Maha summit that seems designed to ensure that the grassroots aspect of the movement, that Began around Secretary Kennedy when he ran as an independent candidate remains fully engaged.
00:01:04.000That includes a lot of women that advocated for investigation after their own experience of their children's autism and their belief that their children's autism is connected to vaccines.
00:01:18.000Of course, healthy eating and organic food, environmental issues, agricultural issues, big pharma issues, all of this was corralled together around Secretary Kennedy, making him an extraordinary candidate.
00:01:31.000As an independent presidential, potential president.
00:01:37.000But now that he's in government, it seems like there's a lot of restriction and obligation to operate within systems.
00:01:44.000And all of the high profile members of his team, whether that's Dr. Oz, head of the CMS, or whoever you'd care to name, seem to me to be attempting to manage the expectations and ideals of this movement while operating within a system that's.
00:02:04.000So, I did this live event where I spoke for about 10 minutes and did some pretty good jokes, actually.
00:02:10.000It was an event that Gary Brecker spoke at and Secretary Kennedy himself, as well as his partner Cheryl Hines and Dr. Joseph Ladipo, the Surgeon General for Florida.
00:02:21.000Also, I interviewed Dr. Oz not at a fireside, on a stage in the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in front of banks of media.
00:02:29.000Nevertheless, it was a brilliant conversation.
00:02:32.000All of this experience with dealing with media kept attempting to host the show himself.
00:02:38.000And also had a good conversation with Dan Brillman, who's the head of Medicaid.
00:02:42.000And so I got a good insight into what their plans are.
00:02:46.000Mostly, though, I guess when you're dealing with people that are inside the political machine, particularly if they're people that you know to be spiritually sound, what's striking is the challenges they obviously face in dealing with systemic.
00:03:03.000Mechanized politics and how difficult it seems.
00:03:07.000Also, we were covering everything I was doing.
00:03:09.000So there are loads of little moments of me backstage there, walking around, and some interesting conversations, in particular, this impromptu Christian symposium that took place, which is probably as close as I can remember to ever doing, Jake, a kind of off the cuff QA preaching session with about an audience of 10.
00:03:30.000It was biblical, is how it would describe it, with the capital looming in the background, looming and illuminated.
00:03:38.000We talked about Christ and real power.
00:03:40.000And I'll tell you what, the main thing I got from the whole experience was I don't want to participate.
00:03:48.000Like, there's a famous adage that politics is show business for ugly people.
00:03:53.000And the thing is, show business involves a lot of schmoozing, but because show business is fundamentally bullshit, it doesn't seem so bad that there's, you know, because it's performance.
00:04:04.000And performance is, in a way, you know, you can, like, when you're, When what you're doing is connected to God, nothing you're doing is bullshit, whether it's making a sandwich or cleaning the toilet, flipping your little omelette for God, or playing a song.
00:04:16.000But if you're doing it for money and because you want to hang out with chicks, then it's bullshit.
00:04:22.000So, and like, so, but the problem when you apply that culture to politics, the thing that they're meant to be doing is so ideologically charged that the bullshit really sucks, man.
00:04:34.000And like, what's fascinating is that these events, there's free bars.
00:04:37.000So people are just coagulated at the free bars drinking, or people don't really want to be there.
00:04:41.000They're from the mainstream media reporting.
00:04:44.000So after sort of being in the sort of hot asphyxiation of that for a minute, even though I really, as I admire, like Tony Lyons, I couldn't admire more.
00:04:51.000He's a guy that runs the Maha movement and he's a publisher.
00:04:54.000And Dr. Oz is a fantastic man who I love.
00:04:56.000And Secretary Kennedy is magnificent and one of the great last hopes for conventional American politics, I'd say.
00:05:02.000And it's still like the whole thing's very, very choking.
00:05:05.000I don't think these systems work at all.
00:05:07.000I don't think, unless you deploy decentralized systems where people can participate in their own governance, I mean, even the word governance or government is wrong because it means control.
00:05:17.000What it should be is administration and organization, voluntary.
00:05:20.000There's no reason for a person to have power over another person unless that power is consensual or to the advantage of.
00:05:28.000Of the other person, and what government has to continually do is trick you into believing they're helping you so that they can continue to tax you.
00:05:34.000And like my little bit of time in DC really helped me understand that with more clarity.
00:05:39.000But the conversation I had backstage, it was like, Have you ever been on a date and had to hold in a fart for the entire date?
00:05:46.000And then the minute you get home, you think, Oh, finally, I can fart now.
00:05:50.000Like once I got out of that environment, I could start talking about our Lord and start talking about stuff I actually cared about.
00:06:28.000Let's hear it for Cheryl Hines, the person who supports Secretary Kennedy in what must be an unimaginable contest against machinery that's difficult for us to conceive of.
00:06:39.000Let's have a round of applause now for Gary Brecker, who I consider to be the Pablo Escobar of Maha and wellness.
00:06:50.000Man, in a DC event like this, to hear people saying, like, my life not that long ago was not about trying to score creatine and Mephelin Blue, let me tell you that.
00:07:14.000Gary Brecker is saving your bodies and saving your souls.
00:07:17.000But we know ultimately tonight is about one very particular hero.
00:07:21.000I'm not talking about Tony Lyons, who we might regard as the Gertrude Stein of the cancelled, a man who has corralled together literary might of the cancelled, those that have been censored and shut down.
00:07:35.000This movement, what's beautiful about this movement of yours, of ours, is it's coagulating and congregating heroes.
00:07:44.000People that are willing to take risks, people that are willing to say the unsayable.
00:07:49.000And whilst this might be for some of the hardline, for some of the mothers that supported Secretary Kennedy at the beginning, that dragged him into this fucking nightmare, while some of you may be frustrated that things aren't moving quickly enough, I want you to consider for a moment the way that the conversation has changed.
00:08:09.000That people now have a different attitude when it comes to obesity in your great country.
00:08:14.000People understand that 72% of all consumed calories are coming from ultra processed foods.
00:08:20.000And I would say that time has been called on big pharma and on big food and on the lobbying industry.
00:08:27.000Maybe not in one administration, but over time, I would say we have in Secretary Kennedy a Daniel to the potential Nebuchadnezzar.
00:08:37.000I don't want to get too old testament about it, but.
00:08:40.000Given where we are, if there's a testament that I'm going to get into, it's going to be that one.
00:08:46.000America spends more money on health than any other nation in the world, and you're still not as healthy as British people.
00:08:53.000And we live basically on, I don't know, I mean, fish and chips, heroin.
00:09:02.000Those 13 colonies, you plucky little motherfuckers, you stuck together, you did guerrilla warfare, you stood up against an empire, and maybe that American spirit ain't yet fully dimmed.
00:09:14.000Maybe you will recognize that the war for independence isn't yet over as long as you are surrounded by these gargantuan Nephilim corporations that seek to shellac and alacr God's kingdom with false counterfeit medicines.
00:09:30.000When big pharma can't be relied on to keep you healthy, when big food can't be relied on to keep you nourished, you know the world needs to change.
00:09:39.000When the media, and I'm thinking in this moment of Dana Bash in particular, Dana Bash, Dana Bash, Dana Bash, CNN, CNN, maybe they're not allowed here no more.
00:09:53.000You know, like when you see the frustration, the irritation, the unwillingness to talk about, let's call it what it is, because we can now, and this is thanks to Secretary Kennedy, a causal link between vaccine schedules and autism, you're allowed to say that now.
00:10:10.000And the reason you're allowed to say that is because of the bravery, not just of one man, actually, because of all you mothers and all of you longtime Maha supporters.
00:10:19.000All of you people that have been called insane, all of you people that have repressed your instincts and your impulses as mothers and fathers, but mostly mothers, in order to choke down the bullshit of corporations that live on lies, you have a hero now.
00:10:35.000You have a hero, but he is operating inside a machine with slow moving cogs.
00:10:43.000So he will need devotion and dedication and patience, and these are attributes that likely belong to, I don't know, Patrick Henry.
00:10:53.000George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, when you threw off the shackles of that tyrannical European nation that oppressed you and taxed you for so long.
00:11:03.000I'm talking about France, those unreliable.
00:11:07.000Hey, do you know some of the countries that you're less healthy than?
00:11:10.000I think your average age of the year, you're dying younger than Brits, you're dying younger than, I think, people in Qatar, you're dying younger than people in Canada.
00:11:26.000I'm English, like Canada is your Scotland.
00:11:28.000You don't want those guys up there in the north being healthier than you.
00:11:34.000What I'm saying is that imperative to success is the ability to focus on victory.
00:11:41.000And in order to have victory, you have to have heroes.
00:11:45.000And the very definition of hero is a willingness to sacrifice yourself for a higher cause.
00:11:51.000And I don't think that anyone would question.
00:11:54.000A man with that last name, having the pedigree, the credentials, the ability, the genetics, and the history to fulfill that brief.
00:12:04.000Now, the word conspiracy theory is a word that, or a phrase at least, an idiom, an epithet, is a word, is a one that you must be familiar with.
00:12:13.000I recently learned that it's one of those things that the CIA concocted to dissipate, disseminate, and confuse people.
00:12:21.000They released it among us to fuck us up and distract.
00:12:25.000Us a little like crack, remember when they did that?
00:12:28.000When there's a certain population getting a little too leery, the lyrics getting a bit too potent, the hip hop getting a little too clever.
00:12:34.000Have some crack that'll speed you up, then eventually slow you down.
00:12:39.000I'm saying that America is still the greatest country in the world.
00:12:43.000I'm saying that while, like, while to have a president that is willing even to countenance a connection between autism and vaccines is a great advance.
00:12:58.000Although Trump does seem somewhat autistic himself, doesn't he?
00:13:08.000I know autism is a spectrum that has, at one end of it, very, very severe suffering.
00:13:13.000And at the other end of it, basically the rest of us, actually, frankly.
00:13:20.000Because part of it is that we must maintain the ability to connect to the deepest and most profound truths.
00:13:27.000There's no point having Maha if you don't believe.
00:13:30.000That people have the right to be healthy.
00:13:32.000There's no point having Maha if you don't believe there is an essential truth.
00:13:37.000There's no point having this movement if you don't believe it's possible for great men and great women to move institutions that have become corrupted over time.
00:13:48.000You will hear embedded in words like system and institution unconsciousness.
00:13:53.000You can't have a system without yielding some awareness.
00:13:58.000But you have still got the greatest country in the world.
00:14:01.000And while I believe we are participating in a holy war, that we are on the precipice of extraordinary things, that the battle lines aren't yet drawn, they are not between liberals and traditionalists.
00:14:14.000They're certainly not between Brits and Americans.
00:14:18.000We are participating in a battle between good and evil.
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00:15:44.000We must recapture the compassion of Christ, but the deep traditions and wisdom that he exhibited too.
00:15:53.000We can't just have loose compassion flung around like confetti, endless individualism, senseless materialism, even though the word materialism has, I mean, if you investigate material for long enough.
00:16:08.000You'll discover more and more infinite miracles and mysteries.
00:16:11.000But I feel myself on the very edge of quantum physics.
00:16:15.000I'll confine myself to simply saying this name Brian Murphy.
00:16:22.000Brian Murphy is a federal judge from Massachusetts who I, through my own research, have discovered is particularly recalcitrant and obstreperous when it comes to the natural flow of change that comes from an innovative movement like this.
00:16:41.000Particularly when willing to back the people that are on the other side of the threshold now, the people that are tangled in the tendrils of bureaucracy and the machinery of a system that you know as well as I do exists primarily to serve powerful global elites, bureaucratic institutions, and commercial interests that are immune from democracy.
00:17:02.000If only their immunity could be replicated by their vaccines, if only they could prevent, if only the transmission of corruption.
00:17:11.000Could be stopped in the same way that they claim, I don't know, measles could.
00:17:14.000So while measles might have had a little bit of a nudge or a bump, obesity will be tackled, corruption will be tackled, and your country will continue to thrive if you have the personal courage to continue to support the principles that engaged you in this movement in the first place.
00:19:33.000I wanted to talk about when that, like, see one of our teachers, Jamie Winship, he says that of the two prophets, Daniel and Joseph, that Joseph, this is his argument.
00:19:45.000It's not my argument, but I'm just opening it up so we can have a discussion about it.
00:19:48.000That Joseph, even though Joseph has a proto crucifixion at the bottom of the cesspit, at the bottom of the empty well there, the cistern, and then is in slavery and is in bondage with the children of Ishmael, the tribe of Ishmael, they're the ones that take him off.
00:20:05.000And then he goes into deep, deep Egypt.
00:20:08.000Then, having lost identity one, the coat, and identity two in Potiphar's house, when the fake rape allegation, I'm just going to record that, happens, then everywhere he goes, he's a king.
00:20:25.000But Jamie argues that when he gets the robes after doing Pharaoh's dreams and he's given the robes of state, that he, yes, I suppose he brings all of his brothers, don't he?
00:20:37.000But it's like mind games with the goblets, like, you know, and the silver and all that stuff.
00:20:40.000I don't understand that fully, to be honest.
00:20:42.000And I don't fully understand the crossing over of the hands with a blessing of Joseph's sons.
00:21:03.000Like, do you know in the three chapters in the Catholic Bible, some of you probably may be Catholic, that he goes in the lion's den again, that there's some weird dream thing in those three chapters.
00:21:12.000Anyway, so I was thinking about Daniel because I was thinking about the writing on the wall.
00:21:15.000And I was thinking about that when Belshazzar has forgotten Nebuchadnezzar's lesson because Nebuchadnezzar's lesson is this that your faculty, your ability to have a spirit and reason is what separates you from an animal.
00:21:26.000Once that's stripped from you, you might think you are king.
00:21:29.000You might think you're the most powerful person in the world.
00:21:30.000I'm thinking this about, you know, Trump.
00:21:32.000I'm thinking about, it's an interesting thing to say about Trump, who has a certain magnificence and brilliance and is obviously an adept operator because I consider the forces of power, I don't know if I'm being naive, did not want Trump to be president and he became president.
00:21:46.000So that, I don't know, somehow he reached through the system, he got to the people.
00:21:50.000Anyway, the Nebuchadnezzar point is this hubris, no?
00:21:52.000All of us, hubris, thinking that it's actually about ourselves, thinking that there is something that we can.
00:21:57.000We can wrest satisfaction out of this world if only we manage properly.
00:22:00.000So, I like this idea that Nebuchadnezzar, until he was willing to accept the one true God, he was reduced to a beast.
00:22:07.000And then, in spite of this lesson, his son Belshazzar still goes back, takes the goblets out of the temple, whoring around.
00:22:13.000Sometimes I read between the lines, probably because of my own past.
00:22:16.000You know, when I hear about Salome dancing for Herod, I think that dance went pretty far, man.
00:22:21.000I think that went far for John the Baptist to lose his head.
00:22:23.000I think she did more than ta ta ta ta.
00:22:25.000You know, I think stuff went down in that room.
00:22:27.000And when I say went down, I mean went down.
00:22:29.000And like, see, with a writing on the wall, When the writing appears on the wall in Belshazzar's Palace and it chills him, I've seen and felt that writing in the wall in my own life when I know that decadence and hedonism and self can't lead you anywhere.
00:22:47.000You can only do that if people are interested.
00:22:50.000What I think is that he, Secretary Kennedy, has the potential to be a kind of a Daniel like advocate for truth, like a person that will stay the line.
00:22:59.000But I mean, he's in the toxicity of that space.
00:23:01.000He's in it, and I don't know what that does.
00:23:03.000People, I know what the equivalent ones that I've been in institutions around entertainment what they do is they bring out something that's in you, which is the very thing that the serpent can draw out of you.
00:23:14.000The serpent can draw out your tendency to stay in a little circuit of self.
00:24:06.000We would see the fallen souls of the Nephilim.
00:24:08.000We would see the angels and archangels.
00:24:10.000We would see them gather and coagulate around sigils like that one satanic sigils, their antennae to conduct and create and draw dark energy.
00:24:24.000And what Lucifer is dealing with is power.
00:24:26.000The human being, as Norman Grubb says in No Independent Self, has the option of there is no independent human nature, there is God nature, and then there is enemy nature.
00:24:36.000If you don't make the choice towards God nature, you will default to enemy nature.
00:24:41.000And the culture is a highly organized and mobilized machine orienting us continually towards self nature.
00:24:48.000And what I think is very difficult is I think there are so many avenues to get there.
00:24:52.000Even today, the last two hours, once we get off the plane and I'm on my own, the fear, Roberto, when we prayed in the room, I might as well have been about to get shot in the head.
00:25:00.000I mean, not that I've ever experienced that level of fear, but it's a sort of a death.
00:25:44.000I love the gear and I like the mystery of the orthodoxy and I like the directness of the American Protestantism.
00:25:53.000American Protestantism, the ones I've seen anyway.
00:25:56.000In my country Protestantism is an explicit abdication of Christ's power and surrender to the state.
00:26:04.000In the same way that in your country commercialism and entrepreneurialism can, what do I want to say, endome and mask and ultimately control Christ.
00:26:14.000There are so many ways, there are so many ways to control it and there's only one way out.
00:26:17.000The only way out is to love him with everything you have and be willing to die for it.
00:26:21.000So there's only one way out, but there's so many ways back to self.
00:26:25.000Like, you know, because unless you're willing to take your son up and, like, right to the point of, I'm going to do it then, unless you're willing to go that far, like, you know, Satan has a scheme, schematic for each of those eventualities.
00:28:31.000The wave particle distinction can't be collapsed even into syntax because it's the living water.
00:28:38.000It's the living water, as it says in Revelation 22, it's coming down from the Throne, he's coming down from the throne down the central street of Jerusalem.
00:28:46.000I think the adjustment and adaptation that we might need to make is that we are Israel, that we are Israel, that we are Israel, and that Jerusalem is us.
00:28:55.000And that's not intended to be, what do I want to say, to denigrate Judaism or the Jewish people, but it is intended to honor that Christ is who he said he was.
00:29:08.000He was the Messiah that Isaiah was talking about, he's the Messiah that Daniel was talking about.
00:29:12.000Is that he is the Messiah, and you've within it's very difficult to progress the negotiation without that acknowledgement.
00:29:21.000But, like, not that you know, but what I'm saying too is, if I want to add, is that secularism is a cannot work, you cannot detach power from government unless government is entirely stripped of ideology.
00:29:33.000Unless government is going to be just entirely, we will collect the trash at this time.
00:29:38.000Do you want the roads to be asphalted or not?
00:29:41.000Yes, tick this box, and you can only do that.
00:29:43.000Through that other great classical invention of the pagans, democracy, then it would work.
00:29:48.000But democracy means the will of the people, not some set of institutions that have been captured by groups that can fucking prevaricate and switch and vacillate no matter who you vote for.
00:29:59.000What democracy is, is you live in communities that are a reflection of your needs so that the church becomes like, well, we've all got to feed one another and we've got to feed our kids.
00:30:06.000And if me and Sarah are arguing, we better sort that shit out and consult you guys about it.
00:30:10.000I don't know why I choose Sarah, I don't really have any arguments with Sarah.
00:30:20.000We get insight about nations for what a flag and a concept is made up.
00:30:24.000So, an engraven image, an image made with your own hands, with all respect to that lady that sewed your first flag, Betty, whatever her name was.
00:30:31.000You know, it's just some made up bullshit.
00:30:33.000Same as England, same as France, same as all of them.
00:30:37.000It can be an administrative bureaucratic entity if you require such a thing.
00:30:40.000But indeed, bureaucracy is one of the very things that Satan uses to shellack and capture further control.
00:30:46.000And that great English genius, C.S. Lewis, sets the demonic realm as being within a bureaucracy because bureaucracy makes human relationship transactional.
00:30:55.000And human relationship is endless and infinite love, Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
00:31:00.000Component A, component B, unknowable entity that is infinite and beyond material.
00:31:05.000Except, as I was trying to say in there, but there's too much racket, material, when you study it enough, is beyond comprehension.
00:31:12.000Superstates of potentiality, a field, a quantum field that we can go into that we've.
00:31:19.000From that, we have fallen from as surely as they fell onto Mount Hermon, as surely as they fell, the 200 fallen ones that concocted the uh, the accusers' lies.
00:31:30.000Anyway, um, the I am and the way I look at all of that is subconscious and conscious mind.
00:31:44.000Subconscious is my belief system that it's the representation of God, it responds to logic and exactly what gets planted in that.
00:31:52.000Conscious mind is the guardian at the gate that we develop as we grow older.
00:31:56.000It says what can come in and cannot come into that.
00:31:59.000And then whatever's planted in the subconscious is what then gets manifested in life.
00:32:06.000And then you have to become the guardian at the gate again.
00:32:09.000And that's where I think we give all of these things away there's a trap door.
00:32:14.000And that's what everybody tries to use fascination and agreement to open your trap door.
00:32:17.000And if they can open the trap door and sneak through, that's how then you're developing all these things that we believe were out of control of said.
00:32:25.000Things that then show up in our life because everything comes back to, in my opinion, the representation of the deepest held core concepts, and we have to change the core.
00:32:33.000See these concepts and deep held and all of these linguistics, they would break apart in the hands of Derrida, they would break apart in the hands of Foucault, they would break apart in the hands of Barthez or Lacan or any of the French post structuralists.
00:32:45.000All of the experts in post structuralism could tell you that there is no absolute terms.
00:32:51.000This is why I think we have to relocate to spirituality as the absolute.
00:33:09.000I'm saying that that is the representation.
00:33:10.000That's what God gave us, was the power and that free will of the subconscious.
00:33:15.000And because the subconscious answers yes and amen to everything, you plant in that whatever that gets planted, right?
00:33:23.000So everything can be traced back to the deepest, and I call them concepts, or whatever you would say.
00:33:27.000But they break apart when you go back to the I am because that's the representation.
00:33:31.000What I didn't like in your question was the nihilism in the word concept and the lack of a creator and the lack of reverence and the proper relationship.
00:33:39.000Relationship is important, principal agent.
00:33:43.000As long as we revere our holy creator, then the syntax is less important.
00:33:46.000The way I look at it, I agree 100% and I look that the subconscious is the revering of that creator because it is answering.
00:33:54.000Well, I don't see how in the word it is because sub just means under and conscious means intelligence and awareness and the mystery.
00:34:11.000And so I'm saying that that starts fertile and answers yes and amen to everything and gives back with abundance anything planted in that soil or that system.
00:34:22.000So that's, I think, where we're all created equal is that system.
00:34:26.000But then, well, in a sense, though, you're sort of denying the concept, and it's a significant one in Christianity and in many faiths.
00:34:37.000But consider it in circuitry terms, in electricity.
00:34:41.000If you're no longer, or as your great Joseph Campbell would say, if you're not a recipient of the source, think of electricity and light bulbs, if you're not receiving that, if you go to an alternative source, that's what I'm saying.
00:34:53.000I think it's a distinction that we are, and this is Norman Grubb, this is not me, and it's a theosis, a Greek Orthodox idea, that God is absolute and expressing God's self through all of us.
00:35:05.000But we can, if we choose, through disobedience and surrendering to the smallest self, Become sort of like weird little independent agents, sort of foraging, like all, what do I want to say, furtive in a world of treats and sugar and blowjobs.
00:35:22.000And what I'm, I guess the point I'm trying to get across is that that God within, I call it, Emmanuel, Emmanuel, that that's there and it doesn't pass judgment and gives back logically.
00:35:33.000That's the free will that allows you to do and choose.
00:35:46.000I suppose the reason I resist it is because I know what the.
00:35:48.000It seems to me that the aims of psychiatry are sort of post enlightenment aims that are intended to make humankind and human reason supreme.
00:35:59.000That's why I'm trying to go beyond that and bring that.
00:36:03.000I'm trying to take that the psychiatry portion has just proved God because that is the soil that creates.
00:36:53.000The image is imprinting onto God to be able to make this.
00:36:59.000On the plane, we were talking about how different people will have different ways of describing God and that some people will receive it in different ways.
00:37:28.000Well done for bringing it here before your great capital there.
00:37:32.000You know, I was just thinking about seeing them images of watching it getting built, you know, them famous photographs of watching it get built.
00:37:39.000Like Scottish masonry, a little bit of slave labor, everyone's a winner.
00:37:44.000Is that why you brought up Nebuchadnezzar?
00:38:43.000I think I didn't have to scrutinize it in the same way because there are, in fact, one of the things I was saying is that what's difficult is sometimes these systems feel like shadow systems or at least silhouette, like, you know, comparable.
00:38:57.000And when you are in that position, a lot of people are, and indeed that remains the case, are in some way or another dependent on you for their livelihood.
00:39:05.000Now, thank And in ways that are sort of amazingly obvious and demonstrative, that has altered.
00:39:10.000Like some of the people that are just hanging with me now aren't being paid.
00:39:12.000Some people are being paid, but we've been paid.
00:39:14.000Hopefully, it's all very candid and clear and above board.
00:39:17.000When you're in Hollywood or you know, entertainment industry more broadly, it's like people will tolerate your bullshit.
00:39:24.000Like because it, and in fact, it's helpful because you want them infantilized, you want the person that's making the money not to be switched on, you want them to be a kind of a dick.
00:39:33.000That's why there's not that many of them that are.
00:39:36.000You know, say the two that are from the south, like McConaughey and Woody Harrison, I bet they're like, I bet I know Woody Harrison a little bit and I've spoken to Matthew McConaughey a couple of times.
00:39:48.000But when I watch them on the internet or whatever, I think they're probably pretty cool.
00:39:51.000And you do see people that are like genuine geniuses, like David Lynch was like a proper genius, say.
00:39:56.000But like a lot of people, even someone who's evidently brilliant, like Tom Cruise, is so kind of engorged with the fruit of that system that it can't.
00:40:48.000The two things that, like, when Christ came to me was that melted my head and still is one that there was no, it was not intellectual, it was visceral, just like something happened in my stomach, like, oh, and then it's like Jesus is real, just like, oh no, like, and then I've read the Bible, and then what I discovered then, so this is phase two after a thing that I was non elective, non elective open heart surgery.
00:41:11.000The next thing was, this is the thing I've always wanted.
00:42:33.000So it's the most, sort of, in a way, it's the most sincere things I do.
00:42:38.000Have a little look at this clip from Sunday service now.
00:42:49.000Now, I've been in DC, so that's what's been on my mind having been in Washington, DC, at the heart of power, doing things with the Maha movement, near and around that great man, my beloved friend, and beyond a friend, really, Secretary Kennedy, our dearly loved, beloved Dr. Oz, great teachers and leaders, really great, wonderful men, and met a lot of good people there.
00:43:17.000But when you're around DC, when you're around political power, you see what it does to people, you see what worldly power does.
00:43:22.000I was thinking again of the example of Daniel, who, under four different empires, Nebuchadnezzar, his son, Belshazzar, were two empires, but four different kings, Darius, and whoever the last one was, managed he just focused the same way and worshipped the same God the whole time.
00:43:49.000Yeah, doing what you're there to do, respecting, honouring the occasion, but not being in any way.
00:43:57.000Impressed by the stuff that's not for you.
00:44:03.000One of the great things that's happened, Laura, since our son was born with the challenges that have brought us closer together and since these sort of harmful, hurtful, untrue media generated allegations is that I've been crushed.
00:46:13.000And the way I described it to my mate Carl later was, I could tell with him, there's nothing you could say to him that would knock him off his game.
00:46:19.000There's nothing you could say, like, oh my God, some skinheads are smashing your car up, mate.
00:46:24.000Like, nothing would titillate him or stimulate him out of the presence of God.
00:46:29.000He, whilst not a Christian, is exhibiting what I consider a B, and let us know in the comments and chat if you agree with this, the primary attribute.
00:46:38.000Of holiness, the presence of God, the absence of self, to be with God always.
00:46:43.000And then, how much distraction and disruption can you tolerate before you let go of God's hand and come back to the world?
00:47:57.000In BC, we went to the Bible Museum and we saw the Megiddo Mosaic, which is the earliest known Christian church dating from around 200 AD prior to the Nicene Creed, meaning before Christianity was the state religion of Rome, a Roman centurion, the mosaic.
00:48:23.000Indicates was already Christian, like the centurion that came to our Lord in, I'm not sure which gospel, but it says, like, help out my kid, will you, or help out my servant.
00:48:33.000And there are four women honored in this mosaic as well.
00:48:40.000And it was discovered the Megiddo mural, which is on display in the Bible Museum in Washington, D.C., a wonderful museum, actually.
00:48:48.000It was discovered when a prison in Israel was being expanded and the inmates are used for the labor.
00:48:56.000And the incarcerated men have to do preliminary digs because Israel, like Rome, is so full of archaeological sites and interesting matters.
00:49:06.000You know, that every time you put a spade in the ground, you might discover some precious and priceless antiquity.
00:49:13.000So the prisoners, men condemned, uncovered this early church.
00:49:17.000And here are the things that struck me most of all from the brilliant tour I received from the young man David.
00:49:23.000I also learned the word docen, which is somebody who shows you around a museum.
00:49:32.000He explained the following that in the Greek, there it says, Christ is Messiah.
00:49:43.000I can't remember the Greek, obviously, but it says Christ is Messiah.
00:49:46.000So it's the earliest artifact, archaeological artifact, I think.
00:49:53.000It's a significant early artifact for the divinity of Christ rather than, oh, he's just a really smart man, a nice teacher, and an all round good egg.
00:50:20.000Anyway, so like the reason that Megiddo floor is so beautiful is one, because of the divinity of Christ, two, because of the four female martyrs showing that even the early Christian church is meant to be a family inclusive of everybody, no one except.
00:50:33.000Race, nation, as it says in Isaiah, the nations are a drop in the bucket.
00:50:37.000Government must rest on his shoulders, whether that's the government of your own life or the government of your country.
00:50:42.000If it's not being guided by divine principle, then it's going to be guided by what?
00:50:51.000In the end, what we have seen is that human beings will reason anything.
00:50:55.000Hannah Arendt's beautiful phrase, the banality of evil, somehow encompasses all that we learned in that dreadful and dark period, that human beings will do anything if they can reason it.
00:51:09.000I can almost imagine a detractor right now watching this say people are never happier committing violence than when they're committing it in the name of the Lord or Allah or whatever they consider to be God.
00:52:16.000People think that's that kind of trade off that Christianity is tricking you into shutting your mouth slave mentality so that real powerful people can get on with controlling the material world.
00:53:09.000I mean, they're sampling the Noah's Ark hunters, as they're called here.
00:53:14.000They're testing samples from the famous boat shaped formation in Turkey to see if they show the biblical vessel buried there.
00:53:21.000But two researchers tried to answer this question in 96.
00:53:24.000So, obviously, yeah, it's not the first time they found it, but they've gone back to the site.
00:53:28.000An international team of archaeologists, this is in Turkey, archaeologists, geologists, and soil scientists started drilling into the Dura Pinar formation last week.
00:53:39.000They're hoping the samples they collected from the structure are wood to disprove those that believe it is just completely a natural rock formation.
00:53:48.000This was the conclusion that the geologist Lawrence Jean Collins and arc researcher David Franklin Fasshold.
00:53:56.000Evidence from microscopic studies and photoanalysis demonstrates that the supposed ark, and this is quite a long word, near Dogubayazit is a completely natural rock formation, they have said in their study.
00:54:09.000It cannot have been Noah's Ark, nor even a man made model.
00:54:13.000But this new batch of research is they're absolutely convinced it is.
00:55:04.000I was like, you know, because it goes on and on.
00:55:06.000Anyway, I think I must have used chat or something to look at what those measurements would be in relation to now.
00:55:12.000And I can't remember exactly what the study was, but it came back saying something about several football stadiums or something.
00:55:18.000Anyway, I'm just interested in it because if, for example, that is the Noah's Ark, it's going to really blow the minds of many a scientist.
00:55:30.000What could ever verify that it was, oh my word, that's Noah's Ark?
00:55:34.000What could they discover that make you go?
00:55:37.000That make it, you go, I know, it's like that.
00:55:39.000Well, what they're going to do is they're presumably going to use the measurements and they're going to draw and they're going to find the wood and they'll be able to track the age of the wood.
00:56:43.000Wow, these are real places, or like the River Jordan, or whatever.
00:56:46.000But what I think is that the cistern that Joseph was in, if someone went, that's the cistern that Joseph was in, or this is where we think Christ's cross was, I mean, it's sort of awesome.
00:56:59.000But he's more here now than he was there then.
00:57:24.000I do always reference this book, and I might need to read it again because I only read it in part when I was doing art at college, but at university actually.
00:58:04.000It's what it is, it's the idea that that has the history of that, that has the memory of it, the history of it, the idea that when you.
00:58:14.000You know, we haven't been to Jerusalem, but I bet if we go to Jerusalem, we're going to be in awe constantly at the idea that it holds the space itself, holds the essence of the memory of the real thing.
00:58:29.000In the same way that your body might hold on to a trauma.
00:58:33.000In the words of William Blake, did those feet in ancient times walk upon England's mountains green?
00:58:39.000Like the idea that Christ might have come to England, that Joseph and Aaron Maffeia took trips to get silver to the Glastonbury or Cornish mines, and Jesus Christ may have come there.
00:59:04.000The feet of all the animals treading the wood, and so I went into it quite a lot.
00:59:09.000I was into the idea of it, that's interesting.
00:59:11.000I understand, and of course, it would be fascinating were things like that to happen.
00:59:15.000And sometimes I read things where we've looked, analyzed the material on the Turin shroud, like our beloved friend, uh, Jeremiah Johnson.
00:59:23.000He's all about it, like you know, like he's all showed, like this is what the crown of Fawns would look like, and this is what, like, but the thing is, is I'm interested in the um mystery, the present mystery, and like.
00:59:36.000I don't know how we would conceptualize Noah's ark.
00:59:39.000I don't know that these weren't gene samples that were being gathered in petroglyph dishes.
00:59:44.000Because we're dealing with the supernatural being described by a contemporary Judean language or Mesopotamian language or proto Sinai and proto Canaanite and Mesopotamian mythology converted into Hebrew mythology.
01:00:01.000But the whole thing is the code of the Lord, is the presence of the Lord, is the myth.