00:00:22.000Hello and welcome to Stay Free with Russell Brand.
00:00:25.000We've got a fantastic show on our hands today.
00:00:27.000Firstly, we're going to be talking to Dr. Eric Berg about his new book, Change Your Environment, which in a way explains how you're already incarcerated.
00:00:36.000And unless you're able to conquer industries like pharmacology and nutrition that are fundamentally trying to poison you, you're going to be further tyrannized.
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00:01:08.000Pub goers will be able to use digital ID on their phones to prove they are more than 18, should say older than 18, when buying alcohol under new rules.
00:01:18.000Pubs, supermarkets, and other retailers will be able to accept digital age checks at the till or Bar starting on Tuesday, the digital ID will be linked to a physical ID such as a passport.
00:01:31.000The government has likened the rollout to the spread of contactless payments, with adoption expected to build as more businesses begin accepting digital ID.
00:01:40.000Digital ID companies have grown rapidly as governments and technology companies have tightened online age checks.
00:01:47.000One of the biggest players in the market said it now processes around 1 million a day.
00:01:51.000The surge has been driven in part by the Online Safety Act 2023.
00:01:56.000Which has required pornography sites to introduce strict age checks using facial age estimation and photo ID checks since last year.
00:03:02.000Also, the United Kingdom seems to be being dismantled, and whilst I generally speaking agree with decentralisation, in this instance I bet it's part of ushering them into a bureaucratic super state, specifically the EU.
00:03:18.000Scotland, Wales, and Ireland have distinct histories, identities, and political traditions.
00:03:22.000Each of our nations has the right to determine its own future through democratic means and in accordance with the wishes of its people.
00:03:27.000The political landscape across these islands is changing.
00:03:30.000For the first time ever, people are Across these islands, have First Ministers in Scotland, in Wales, and in the north of Ireland who are all committed to independence from the United Kingdom.
00:03:39.000For people watching across these islands, for people watching around the world, there could be no clearer sign that Westminster's time is coming to an end.
00:03:46.000We believe the future of our nations belongs in the European Union.
00:03:50.000We want to work together to rebuild and strengthen those European relationships, creating greater opportunities for trade, investment, culture, and cooperation.
00:03:57.000Our nations have the right to self determination.
00:04:00.000Here in the United States of America, Mitch McConnell, look at that.
00:05:08.000Dr. Burke, we both have the same publisher, the great Tony Lyons.
00:05:12.000You've written a new book, Change Your Environment.
00:05:16.000Can you firstly just tell me what area, particularly of your work, are you drawing upon in this book?
00:05:26.000That's a good question because this is a very different book.
00:05:29.000Because people, when they think about change your environment, they always just think about, oh, you mean we have to get rid of the toxic environment?
00:05:36.000In a way, yes, but it's really there's nine different environments, and our environments are basically engineered for addiction and they're engineered by engineers.
00:05:46.000And so we're basically, we have this illusion of freedom of choice, but in actuality, we really don't have choice and we're being force fed a lot of different things, and it's making our environment very, very Sick to exist in.
00:06:00.000So I wrote a book about this because there is data out there that shows that they talk about ancestral mismatch.
00:06:08.000So if we look at our modern environment versus our ancestors, you can quickly diagnose to see where the problem is.
00:06:15.000But in those textbooks, they don't really tell you what to do.
00:06:19.000So what I did is basically plug in exactly what do you do in these situations because it's so normalized that we don't even see it.
00:07:15.000And an average person per day checks their email about 160 times a day.
00:07:23.000And so think about how many interruptions that is, how many distractions that is for our life.
00:07:28.000So that's just one simple thing that I think people are not even aware of.
00:07:34.000When you're driving, obviously, you've got to put this away.
00:07:36.000You can't just drive and test because you're going to get an accident.
00:07:41.000So that's just like one environment, which is controlling your attention and your cognitive function.
00:07:49.000But then you also have, of course, the grocery store, which is a booby trapped environment.
00:07:54.000You walk in there, first thing you see is flowers, produce.
00:07:58.000To get to the real food, you got to walk through a wall of literally 30,000 different products.
00:08:05.000There's an example of one, my favorite, and it's all calling your name.
00:08:09.000They all have marketing budgets, advertising budgets, and highly, highly addictive.
00:08:17.000But really, when you look at it, there's only three ingredients in most of these products you have corn, wheat, and soy.
00:08:26.000So, but we're giving them a nice, great packages, and it's all like beautiful.
00:08:32.000And then, so an average person, when they go in the grocery store with their list, they end up buying 75% of the items they buy are not even on their list.
00:08:40.000Again, it's really hard to exist or even go somewhere without this in your face, especially when you're tired, hungry, or stressed, because that's when people kind of cave.
00:08:51.000And so what they do is they say, well, it's just, I have low willpower.
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00:12:13.000So, if we take a look at an addiction loop, you got this visual cue of spike of dopamine, which actually creates want and pursuit towards something.
00:12:26.000But then the other system over here, which is pleasure and like and enjoyment, that's a whole different system.
00:12:32.000So, we have a situation where we have junk food, pornography, drugs.
00:13:10.000It's interesting to hear something that when it's in illicit chemical dependency is so obvious, mapped so completely onto something as banal as the Dorito.
00:13:25.000I wonder if you start to, like, you know, I don't stray too far from your book, but it seems like given the breadth of its purview, it will be difficult to because it sounds like, in one way, Doctor, what you're claiming is we live in a kind of 360 sphere of.
00:13:44.000Counterfeit stimulation that's designed to direct your attention towards false fake attachment that will, once formed, be difficult to decouple.
00:14:00.000And in the short time that we've been talking, you've demonstrated that it exists in commerce through the supermarket example, food through the Dorito example, technology through the telephone example.
00:14:15.000It's very easy to see how a person might indeed spend all of their time in a kind of state of incarceration without very deliberate discipline and focus.
00:14:53.000So, when you have all these potential mates artificially stimulating you, and then what happens is that whole sequence starts hyper focusing to the point where you're obsessed with it all day long.
00:15:09.000You're focusing on this one thing, but you get no pleasure.
00:15:11.000Then you develop this cortisol stress that builds up in our body that you end up just.
00:15:19.000A person gets like in this trap of just getting relief from the pressure that this addiction has created.
00:15:25.000So it's completely out of our control.
00:15:28.000And that's why, when I say change your environments, the only way that you're going to fight that is to change your environment.
00:15:36.000You're going to have to delete certain apps.
00:15:39.000Like I don't even have TikTok or Instagram on my cell phone.
00:17:05.000There's 200 different flavor chemicals in even one junk food.
00:17:09.000So we're being manipulated behind the scenes, and an average person has normalized it to the point where, you know, well, everyone does it as normal.
00:17:19.000But the point is that if speed to the brain is the cause of this, the solution is to add time.
00:17:28.000So add friction between you and that addictive thing.
00:17:31.000So that way, because these addictions actually, this dopamine comes on a wave.
00:17:35.000It comes up and within 20 seconds it starts coming down.
00:17:41.000So, just by adding little things between you and the addiction, you can actually start to get a grip on it again.
00:17:52.000When one considers alcohol dependency through the lens of the 12 steps, Not to minimize the significance of the chemical, the substance, alcohol, it is nevertheless clear that the problem is not alcohol.
00:18:20.000In fact, it comes something closer to control and an attempt to synthesize control.
00:18:31.000In a way, control is a synonym for power.
00:18:36.000And what in your book, Change Your Environment, you're in a way, it sounds like, attempting to set out for the reader a way in which we might almost recolonize our personal authority, which suggests that it has been conquered.
00:18:57.000And all of the examples you give, the Doritos.
00:19:01.000And I sometimes think, Doctor, that the beauty of the system is that its participants, in the words of Christ, know not.
00:19:11.000They don't know when you're in a hospital that what they're doing is participating in ensuring that you stay past the commencement of another shift in order to charge for another day.
00:19:26.000But they may not have been taught on their course.
00:19:31.000Institutionalism and systems, in a way, are synonyms for and require a degree of unconsciousness.
00:19:40.000If you instantiate a system, this can actually be observed on a pretty small level.
00:19:46.000If you, in your own working life, try to institute a system of let's always do this, let's never do that, you're in fact inviting the person or people that you're working with to disregard their own consciousness and implement a set of systems that you require.
00:20:06.000Now, that, you know, if you're running a garden center or a farm or a TV studio, these things are pretty innocuous.
00:20:18.000An entire culture, it starts to become, if I don't want to say clear because that's sort of like reductive, but it seems to me that we're living at a time where through technology we are implementing a level of centralized authority, both bureaucratic and commercial and corporate and nutritional, that's likely to lead to more and more unconscious behavior, more and more habit,
00:20:58.000And doesn't the solution in the end, and I'm not, because here's my question, doesn't it in the end become a kind of, isn't there a requirement for a sort of quite radical individual and global spiritual revolution?
00:21:18.000Because to unhook yourself from these sets of systems is both an individual act.
00:21:25.000But almost, you know, when you start, you know, you said the word evil earlier, and I, you know, you and I know each other from the Maha calls that we regularly go on in support of Secretary Kennedy and Dr. Oz and other members of the Maha movement that are in government that we support in a particular way, or speaking of myself, that I support in a particular way, even though I'm not even from your country.
00:21:47.000And so this gets quite near power quite quickly.
00:21:51.000And I wonder what your view is, and if you have a particular reason for focusing on health and the individual.
00:21:59.000Rather than some of the other connotations that are already apparent in our conversation.
00:22:10.000You basically, it's just quite amazing.
00:22:12.000You basically can, I don't know how you do it, but you'll come around, you'll start a question and you come around and all of a sudden you come over this way and then it comes perfect.
00:22:31.000I think the essence of what you're asking is really, yeah, my mission is to get people to be more causative over their environments and less at the effect.
00:22:42.000Because even if you were to, you know, spend eight hours in front of your computer, like most people, or kids nine hours a day on screens, if you were to then come out of that synthetic environment and go for a walk in nature, I bet you it would take you at least an hour.
00:23:03.000To get out of your head because you're so in your head and introverted into pictures and what you're doing.
00:23:10.000So, this is another environment where I think it's really capturing our ability to observe our environments, being out in nature in the real world, have an actual relationship with another being versus online.
00:23:26.000So, that's one of the things I highly suggest people do is to get out and put down your phone.
00:23:34.000Actually, don't be entertained 24 seconds.
00:23:38.000Just basically, it's okay not to actually be entertained.
00:23:43.000It's okay to be bored and just, you know, sit and just relax and kind of offset that because, again, this is a new environment for us for our cognitive overload.
00:23:54.000I mean, we're sitting in front of a computer and we're just so into it.
00:23:57.000We become introverted into this screen.
00:24:01.000So, yeah, it's about putting back control over your body and your mind.
00:24:09.000I wonder, indeed, Dr. Eric, if that has as much.
00:24:15.000Value as lobbing Molotov cocktails across some barricade at an incumbent despot because the truth is that if you don't have the kind of freedom that you're describing, i.e.,
00:24:30.000the ability to get out of your own head and the kind of inert patterns that are placed there, I think, by the system in Christianity, I've followed Christ in Christianity when Paul says, Conform not to the patterns of this world, but be renewed.
00:24:48.000By the transforming, no, be transformed by the renewing of your mind, although those words are interchangeable a little bit.
00:24:54.000I'll say again, conform not to the patterns of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.
00:24:59.000It seems to me that he's saying continually be reborn into the moment.
00:25:02.000Don't attach yourself to whatever pattern it is, whether it's the pattern of I need to look at my phone because of this, I need to eat the next Dorito because of that, I must take a position as a MAGA person or a position as a social justice warrior of the left.
00:25:18.000All of these sort of Bolt on identities prevent us from being in what again Christ called the uh or alluded to, it's in a sense impossible to describe using language before Abraham was I am.
00:25:36.000Before Abraham was I am, that there is uh access within the individual to the eternal, and if we don't uh substitute our personal access to the to eternity for One of the many near infinite placeholders that this evil system will intercede with, we have a chance of real change.
00:26:03.000And what it seems that your book is saying is that if you don't spend all your time staring at a screen, then going to a supermarket, then masturbating over pornography, then eating a Dorito, hope you wash your hands first.0.96
00:26:14.000I meant after eating the Doritos, you shouldn't touch your penis after eating Doritos.0.99
00:26:22.000If you're not able to decouple yourself from the sort of the minefield of a culture that hates you, it's evil, it's a parasite, it's demonic.0.99
00:26:33.000If you don't, if you're not able to separate yourself from that, then you're already dead.0.89
00:27:52.000But yeah, you're battling not just your willpower, your body is fighting you because this environment, because of the addictions that have been created and the training.
00:28:02.000Let's just take cigarette smoking, right?
00:28:04.000How many times you puff this vape or cigarette?
00:28:08.000You're literally just, it's a training session on steroids.
00:28:12.000Like you're just getting so locked into that thing.
00:28:15.000So, to the point where eventually, if you don't give in to that, your body is going to force you to do it because how much pressure that builds up.
00:28:40.000It's you, the addiction is creating the problem that you then get your relief from.
00:28:47.000You've created, it sounds like, made yourself a kind of personal little colony in that farm area where you're 45 minutes from the nearest Dorito.
00:29:24.000I used to live in the city for many, many years, and we decided let's get a little farm.
00:29:28.000And then we basically moved to the farm.
00:29:31.000Um, I live in the middle of nowhere, population 400 people.
00:29:35.000Uh, it's on top of a mountain, but it's a farm.
00:29:38.000And I, uh, I'm actually applying every single thing in this book, and so that's why I'm I can tell people to do it because I'm personally doing everything from food to computer to environment, microbiome.
00:31:02.000I mean, this is insane for me to have all these problems that early.1.00
00:31:06.000So, my wife's like, You look a little green.0.97
00:31:09.000Like, I literally was just going down.
00:31:12.000So, I hit bottom at 28, and I started to pull myself out and I started eating more real protein meat and getting rid of the carbs.
00:31:22.000And then I actually flipped over and I became obsessed about it to the point where I haven't stopped studying it in detail for the last, I don't know, 40 years.
00:31:31.000So, Yeah, I hit bottom a lot sooner than most people.
00:31:39.000But you were sick just from kind of normal life, it sounds like.
00:31:42.000Just that what you're describing is what most people live like.
00:31:49.000I mean, it was more than that because, for example, even as a kid, when I went for Halloween, I couldn't just have one, I had the whole freaking bag.
00:32:01.000Like, as soon as I start, I can't stop.
00:32:03.000So by the time I was done with dinner, I would graze and snack until I would go to bed.
00:32:35.000Thank God I got a grip on that because.
00:32:41.000You know, again, it's the phone, the computers literally had to completely, you know, put filters on the routers and block it because it's just in your face all the time.
00:32:55.000Just a quick break to look at Polymarket.
00:32:57.000With all this talk of the United Kingdom breaking up, 39% think we could have a new election by the end of the year.
00:33:04.000I suppose it makes sense, seeing as we've had seven prime ministers in less than a decade bet on this and other real world events at Polymarket.
00:33:14.000You know, it seems, I was about to say, even though you present as very rational, like a neat and handsome, in a way, there's a lot of mysticism in your life.
00:33:23.000And please don't take that in a derogatory way, because I think we have to become mystics, because if we were to remain entirely with the material, the secular, the rational, and the prescribed, we are incarcerated, we're imprisoned.
00:33:42.000What I mean by mystic is the origins of chiropracty.
00:33:46.000I like you're a chiropractor, and I see a chiropractor called Dr. Jerome Poubel in my country, the UK.
00:33:55.000Happens to be French, but try not to focus on that because otherwise you'll get the wrong idea.
00:34:01.000Well, no, you'll get the right idea about it, but it's distracting.0.98
00:34:06.000So I believe in chiropracty, is what I'm saying.
00:34:15.000That's your faith, is that right, Doctor?
00:34:17.000So, I guess my question is that both of these faith based, you know, I'm a Christian.
00:34:26.000What I've read about Scientology, I could see, particularly in the book of Enoch, which is obviously a non canonical piece of Second Temple literature, clear parallels between the claim that the Nephilim, when disembodied after a cosmic battle, left their souls or their, I don't know, their.
00:34:49.000Dematerialized or non material being is somehow clings to the earth.
00:34:54.000That's, you know, that's all in the book of Enoch, which is referenced in the Bible several times.
00:35:02.000I'm saying that while the focus of your work is empirical, nutritional, endocrinal management and optimization, there's a lot of management and optimization in your work.
00:35:15.000It's somewhat undergirded by two faith systems that are, like all faith systems, Supernatural, supernatural, and supernatural.
00:35:28.000So, Dwodi, how are those two systems impacting what you do?
00:35:37.000So, I think I know what you're asking.
00:35:38.000So, let me just see if I can answer it.
00:36:19.000And then, as I was working as an associate, the chiropractor who I was working for said, whatever you do, do not get involved with Scientology.
00:36:49.000So, anyway, yeah, then I got into Scientology.
00:36:51.000But what I want to know about you when you got into Christianity, was there anything that you ran into that was a little bit harder to accept at first that then you were like, okay, this makes sense?
00:37:09.000No, when I ran, it kind of ran into me.
00:37:14.000I'd been primed by life to both absolutely resist Christ up until that point, and then in that moment of crisis, crisis, breakdown.0.98
00:37:40.000It's very interesting because when I'm trying to talk to people about Jesus, you know, isn't it brilliant the way they've naturalized the environment where you consider it normal to like eat Doritos all day, masturbate, like let your children grow up to be turned into sort of demonic little morons following after empty headed, vacuous cultural artifacts?0.97
00:38:05.000And if you try and talk about Christ or your faith, people are like, You idiot, you know, and like, and there have been times in my life where I've done that, where I've criticized people for Scientology and I've criticized people for Christianity, or you name it, I'll have had an opinion on it.0.94
00:38:22.000And, um, but when Christ came to me, it was not rational.0.98
00:38:28.000It, something transformed in me when I was on my own in a field.
00:38:47.000I've been told I'm charismatic before.
00:38:50.000Like, so I feel that I can influence people's behavior by saying stuff, right?
00:38:56.000But what happened to me is that I would got it was like being hit by lightning or cracked open.
00:39:02.000It wasn't a very nice feeling, but it was the urgent and immediate sense that Christ is real.
00:39:09.000Now, then after that, I read scripture.
00:39:15.000And the two things that surprised me most, Doctor, were one, the intimate mystery of his living presence and how that relates to my self obsessiveness.
00:39:30.000Like that thing you do where you're thinking about yourself all the time, all you have to do is adjust that charge towards Him, and now you're out.
00:39:41.000They can't get you with the porn and the Doritos and the tyranny if you're in Christ.
00:39:48.000And as I sort of edge towards Catholicism, it's unusual to say this, but Christ is a prophylactic against the culture, given that they don't wear condoms and stuff, or you're not men.
00:40:15.000Now, I don't like, you know, it's no good for me, like, oh, you know, if you're moral in this way or ethical in that way, you know, it's no good to me.
00:40:24.000The second thing is it's absolute clarity on the system is evil.
00:40:30.000The system has been taken over by the Most evil forces you can conceive of.
00:40:37.000And historically, these same forces that run the world now sacrificed children and engaged in sex magic and human sacrifice.
00:40:47.000And they're probably still doing it and finding ways to disguise it and trying to distract you in it, thinking that they're the world's greatest, kindest people and they'll trick you in a million different ways before breakfast.
00:41:01.000And by the way, when you eat that breakfast, it will be bad for you.
00:41:05.000So, like, What I, when he came to me, it was like sort of a bomb going off in my heart, I guess, or more likely my gut.
00:41:13.000And then, and from that moment, the reading was, oh, yeah, this is true.
00:41:17.000You've always, like with all knowledge, you already knew it.
00:43:37.000Yeah, I was the worst guy on the team until this ninth grade, this senior from high school came over and just beat the crap out of me every day, beat the crap out of me.
00:43:49.000And then one day I flipped and I started fighting back and I started getting good.
00:43:54.000And then I became city champion, became the most valuable on the team.
00:43:59.000And then I started doing very well in high school and wrestled.
00:44:02.000Um, so that was kind of a great thing, but then I went into college.
00:44:07.000The problem is, I always grew cutting weight, so literally, I would go three days without food.
00:44:12.000So I started off really good, and then I would end up could barely, I was just so weak.
00:44:17.000So when I and when I went to college, I had that osteo, uh, it's called malaise, which is thinning of the bones, and I fractured my neck, I fractured my ankle in wrestling practice.
00:44:30.000So that was the end of that, uh, real quick, but I think, um I had a chance to experience the tough workouts.
00:44:36.000And I wish I could still, if they had an old timers tournament, I would sign me up.
00:44:41.000I would do it because I really miss that wrestling.
00:44:58.000But I wish I got into that because that seems like an incredible parallel to wrestling, but way better.
00:45:05.000Yeah, people that are good at wrestling are generally pretty good at it.
00:45:09.000I'd really, yeah, I'd like to come to your farm, eat Doritos, grapple you to the ground, and gorge myself on vitamin B. Dr. Eric Berg, thank you so much for your time.
00:45:21.000Dr. Eric Berg's book, Change Your Environment, is available now.
00:45:25.000There's a link in the description to order or pre order your copy now.
00:45:31.000And I can only endorse it, having not read it, but knowing that the work that Dr. Eric Berg does is transformative.
00:47:31.000They said to each other, come now, let's kill him.1.00
00:47:35.000So the brothers want to sacrifice him.0.96
00:47:37.000Barabbas was a rebel, the Barabbas who was freed instead of Christ.
00:47:43.000He was the first person whose life was saved in a very, Literal way, one might say, is barrenness, and throw him into one of these cisterns and say that a ferocious animal devoured him in a way, a ferocious animal did devour him, their jealousy.
00:47:57.000Then we'll see what comes of his dreams.
00:47:59.000His famous Joseph of the Technicolor Dreamcoat fame don't get your identity from your earthly parents, get them from the Heavenly Father.
00:48:11.000Throw him into this cistern here in the wilderness, but don't lay a hand on him.
00:48:14.000Reuben said this to rescue him from them and take him back to his father.
00:48:17.000So, when Joseph came to his brothers, they stripped him of his robe, the ornate robe he was wearing, and they took him and threw him into the cistern.
00:48:28.000Interestingly, that emphasizes that point in my analysis is because while at the bottom of that well, Joseph becomes the water, the vain, narcissistic show off that's like, I've had this dream.
00:48:49.000Maybe the world would not have been so powerfully directed.
00:48:54.000One thing I will say is that when we talked about, because you started with talking about authority, and we talked about that the other day, we can talk about it later the parking situation or whether or not you can or can't park somewhere and whether or not you listen to the authority or not.
00:49:09.000And I said to you, but there is a difference if there's arrogance, like I can park here if I want.
00:49:20.000If, like, the problem I think in my life up to now, and Lord alone knows there's been many, but the defining one might be that everything was about me and nothing should be about you.
00:49:32.000There should be no self, no smallest self.
00:49:34.000The smallest self is the S of sin, the S of Eve and Adam falling in the garden, thinking they've had a better idea.
00:49:44.000Some lower form, but perhaps higher than them, I don't know, a form, a being, suggests to them that a Obeying the creator is not the best paradigm or template, but that it might be better to.
00:52:35.000So when the Midianite merchants came by, his brothers pulled Joseph up out of the system and sold him for 20 shekels of silver, not 30, but 20, to the Ishmaelites who took him to Egypt.0.88
00:52:46.000And, you know, anyway, it goes, you will know where it's all, then we'll know where it goes.
00:52:51.000But my point is that this is a sort of a.
00:52:53.000In this, the A code of the Bible, I'm not obviously making the outrageous claim that I've discovered a new code in the Bible, but the A code of the Bible is to guide you to a sort of a personal point of transfiguration.
00:53:06.000Transfiguration, by my reckoning, is different from transformation in this way.
00:53:13.000Well, I suppose the literal meaning of it will mean the figure, the individual figure alters.
00:53:17.000It might be more superficial than form, actually, as a word.
00:53:21.000But my point is that what I feel in transfiguration is the allusion and reference.