Stay Free - Russel Brand - Jimmy Dore & Russell Brand On 2024 Election, RFK Jr, GOP Debate & WAR!! - Stay Free #243

00:00:00.000 I'm going to go ahead and get the other one.

00:05:10.000 Oh Oh

00:05:13.000 In this video, you're going to see the future.

00:05:19.000 We've got a live shot there.

00:05:26.000 Hello there, you awakening wonders.

00:05:28.000 Welcome to Stay Free with Russell Brand.

00:05:30.000 I'm pretty excited about today's show for a number of reasons.

00:05:32.000 One of the reasons is Jimmy Dore.

00:05:34.000 Jimmy Dore's on the show with us in a minute.

00:05:37.000 We're not bringing him out straight away, but he's hosting a presidential debate organised by this person called Christina Tobin.

00:05:43.000 She's the founder of the Free and Equal Elections Foundation.

00:05:46.000 Good luck with that!

00:05:48.000 And so we're going to be talking about... I've always wanted to have someone like Jimmy Dore do a presidential debate, haven't you?

00:05:53.000 That's good.

00:05:54.000 Like when Vivek the other day goes, who should be Joe Rogan?

00:05:57.000 It should be Tucker.

00:05:58.000 Well, Jimmy Dore's going to do one.

00:05:59.000 So we're going to ask him about that, how it's going to work, how he's going to handle it, as well as asking him regular Jimmy Dore stuff.

00:06:04.000 Plus we'll talk to Christina Tobin because she's sorted it all out and stuff.

00:06:07.000 We've got a brilliant video for you.

00:06:09.000 We're having a look at the Middle Eastern escalation.

00:06:13.000 You're going to love that.

00:06:14.000 Well, you're not going to love it.

00:06:15.000 It's actually a tragic and very, very difficult subject to talk about.

00:06:19.000 But we look at the legacy media is reporting on this subject and how the word Peace.

00:06:25.000 Ceasefire.

00:06:26.000 It's sort of been removed from the conversation.

00:06:30.000 We look at how Raytheon and Lockheed Martin are profiting from this war.

00:06:35.000 We look at the degree of censorship that's going on.

00:06:39.000 It's interesting.

00:06:40.000 I think you're gonna... Well, you'll tell me, actually.

00:06:43.000 What matters is what you think.

00:06:43.000 What does it matter what I think?

00:06:45.000 If you want to, press the red button and become an Awakened Wonder.

00:06:48.000 You get access to content earlier.

00:06:49.000 We did a conversation with Alex Jones the other day that mad Well how do I describe him?

00:06:54.000 I feel like he's an evangelical shaman in a culture that only believes in rationalism. 0.91

00:06:59.000 People that operate on the peripheral edge lands will always get a hard time but I talked to Alex Jones about the number of things that he was ahead of the curve on and I talked to him about regrets and I say that it's a Really good Alex Jones conversation, even for those of you that are not Alex Jones fans, and I know a lot of you will love Alex.

00:07:16.000 If you are an Awake and Wonder like Jay Gwynn Wilde, hiya, how's it going? 0.99

00:07:19.000 Democracy can't exist if censorship is in place, is what Jay Gwynn Wilde saying on the chat.

00:07:23.000 Over on the Rumble chat, we've got Glacier Fox, Jimmy In Da House, Nomadsland, Jimmy exposed RFK as a genocide supporter.

00:07:30.000 now because it's really difficult because I know Bobby Kennedy and he's actually really,

00:07:34.000 really beautiful and I think one of the things that's been great about independent media's rise

00:07:39.000 is the possibility that new political candidates and new political movements will emerge. Why do

00:07:44.000 you think independent media is being attacked in the way that it is and on that note we'll only be

00:07:49.000 able to be on YouTube because as you know YouTube through its association or ownership by Google is

00:07:54.000 one of the trusted news initiative companies that means legacy media companies are bounded and

00:07:59.000 together and they all have an agreement on a very particular set of agenda. They'll support one

00:08:05.000 another, they're not competing with one another, there's some pretty crazy and exciting stuff for

00:08:10.000 us to discuss and to reveal as this movement continues to grow. But you know there is some

00:08:16.000 good news because people say that Joe Biden might be experiencing decline.

00:08:22.000 He's not as potent as he once was, some say.

00:08:25.000 Has he lost some of his magnetism and some of his power?

00:08:29.000 Well, I'd like you to hold that opinion after you see him putting on his t-shirt like a real grown-up.

00:08:36.000 Let's have a look.

00:08:37.000 Oh no, I'm in charge of this.

00:08:38.000 Check out Joe Biden putting on a t-shirt.

00:08:38.000 Let's put it on.

00:08:40.000 It's already taking too long with that music but we've barely begun.

00:08:49.000 So, Like that bit, that's not, that's one of the easier bits of

00:09:03.000 the tea- that bit, that's not a hard bit of getting a t-shirt on,

00:09:06.000 bless you.

00:09:06.000 That brass band now, they must be wheezing in their- And how they cure their cheeks, there must be blood vessels

00:09:19.000 popping in their cheeks. 0.61

00:09:30.000 Very good.

00:09:31.000 Well, he got that t-shirt on.

00:09:33.000 The whole thing, look, standing with workers.

00:09:35.000 Yet, Biden blocked a railroad strike, broke a promise to give workers seven days sick pay.

00:09:40.000 This is the sort of thing Jimmy Dore will have.

00:09:43.000 And upping yearly fossil fuel subsidies.

00:09:45.000 And on an average, despite upping yearly fossil fuel subsidies, Oh, this is a new story?

00:09:49.000 That's a new story.

00:09:50.000 Fair enough.

00:09:51.000 He's not done that.

00:09:51.000 Fair enough.

00:09:52.000 We can't blame him for that.

00:09:53.000 The man has not upped any fossil fuel subsidies so far.

00:09:58.000 Hey, listen, let's get into this with Justin Trudeau.

00:10:02.000 This is Justin Trudeau passionately talking about climate change.

00:10:07.000 is Mr. Speaker. Canadians are afraid of climate change.

00:10:10.000 They're afraid of the extreme weather events. They're afraid of the concerns we have about a

00:10:15.000 brighter future. What we are doing is fighting climate change every day.

00:10:19.000 I've not seen them that excited in Canadian Parliament since they had that Nazi in there. 0.99

00:10:24.000 They're overjoyed.

00:10:26.000 Let's look at dear old Trudeau though.

00:10:28.000 He loves a private jet.

00:10:29.000 Check this out for someone who's into private, into climate change and that.

00:10:32.000 Trudeau burns the jet fuel 10 months, 127 in one month.

00:10:36.000 Trudeau used enough fuel to power a trucker convoy, but to be fair, he does make a lot of truckers stay in jail, so they can't actually use their truck.

00:10:44.000 So he give off with one hand, he take off with the other.

00:10:47.000 Perhaps that's why he's doing it.

00:10:48.000 Maybe Canadian truckers are being banged up and having their bank accounts frozen for the environment.

00:10:53.000 Maybe it's good for the environment.

00:10:55.000 Your man Donald Trump, though, he's got a different perspective on what we should fear most.

00:10:59.000 Is it climate change?

00:11:00.000 Press one if you think it's climate change.

00:11:02.000 Or two, nuclear war, baby!

00:11:06.000 Press one in the chat.

00:11:07.000 Russell, what's your position on climate change?

00:11:09.000 I believe this.

00:11:10.000 This is, who's asking me that in there?

00:11:11.000 It's Mr. Red Fox.

00:11:13.000 I believe that this planet is a gift, that each of us are connected to our land, that each of us are connected to our community and our environment, and we should treat this earth with respect and love.

00:11:22.000 But when measures are introduced that are clearly punitive to individuals while not regulating companies, whenever they introduce legislation and regulation that's like, normal people have to be in 15-minute cities, normal people can't take flights, Normal people are going to get all banged up, while people like Trudeau that mouth off about it bang about in the old jets, while energy companies continue to be subsidised by taxpayer dollars, while in a fuel crisis and an energy crisis, fuel companies continue and energy companies continue to make massive profits.

00:11:51.000 Thanks, going on.

00:11:53.000 Do you know what I fundamentally don't believe?

00:11:54.000 That they care about us.

00:11:56.000 That's the fundamental thing.

00:11:57.000 Whether you're talking about the pandemic or a climate change crisis, I don't believe they care about us.

00:12:02.000 So I don't think their regulatory measures, whether they're lockdowns or 15-minute cities, are about helping you.

00:12:07.000 Because I think, not only do they not care about you, they hate you.

00:12:11.000 And you hate them.

00:12:12.000 So, in a sense, it's pretty fair, isn't it?

00:12:13.000 I hate the legacy media.

00:12:14.000 I don't trust them.

00:12:15.000 I try not to engulge in hate because I'm trying to Awaken the limitless love within me.

00:12:20.000 A lot of you are saying that nuclear war is a bigger threat and you are on the same side as your man Trump.

00:12:25.000 He's doing an interview, I think, with a Mexican journalist here.

00:12:28.000 And what's fascinating about this is, like, you know Trump.

00:12:30.000 He's got a complex relationship with Mexico, hasn't he?

00:12:33.000 Like, one of the... This is when...

00:12:35.000 You know, way back, you lot probably remember, because you lot were ahead of me, you know, when Trump first announced that he was running for president and he said that thing, you know, Mexicans, they're drug addicts, and I was like, well, you can't say that, you know, that's what I was saying, because me, I'm a, I love the people of the earth and I love the people of Mexico.

00:12:50.000 But, you know, you lot said Trump would rise and that Trump was all right.

00:12:54.000 You were ahead of that.

00:12:55.000 Well, here's Trump now conducting an interview in Mexico, saying that in the event of a nuclear war, Mexico will suffer due to their geographical proximity.

00:13:05.000 We could end up in World War Three.

00:13:07.000 And if World War Three happens, probably Mexico will no longer be around.

00:13:12.000 Because the power of nuclear weapons are so big, if they hit us, you're going to be wiped out too.

00:13:17.000 That's how bad it is.

00:13:19.000 He leans in like that.

00:13:21.000 And when I hear these people talking about the environment and over a 300 year period, the oceans will rise by one one hundredth of an inch.

00:13:31.000 And this is such a threat.

00:13:32.000 It's not a threat.

00:13:34.000 The threat is not global warming.

00:13:37.000 It's nuclear warming.

00:13:39.000 It's a single biggest threat to your country, to our country, to every country.

00:13:43.000 Oh dear, amazing, amazing.

00:13:45.000 Keep coming in the rumble chat there, That Guy Talks, I See You, Salty, Baked Idaho and Colonius.

00:13:51.000 And over in the Awaken Wonder chat, Wild Rose.

00:13:54.000 Wow though, she says about Trump.

00:13:56.000 Yeah, he's got a way with words.

00:13:57.000 There's no question he's a great communicator.

00:13:59.000 Hey, we've got some new gates coming.

00:14:01.000 We've had Russia Gate, remember that? 0.98

00:14:03.000 Well, guess what's coming up next?

00:14:04.000 There's China Gate and Iraq. 0.99

00:14:06.000 There's going to be so many gates.

00:14:08.000 We'll be able to exit and enter the world most freely.

00:14:11.000 That's some of the upside.

00:14:12.000 The new Microsoft analysis has found that Russia, Iran, and China are likely to engage in newly sophisticated influence and interference efforts ahead of the 2020 election.

00:14:21.000 Because otherwise, why would the Democrat Party not... I mean, what do you not... Did you see Joe Biden put on a t-shirt earlier?

00:14:27.000 Why would you not vote for that guy?

00:14:29.000 We've worked it out.

00:14:30.000 Iran.

00:14:31.000 Iran and China do not... They're a threat. 1.00

00:14:34.000 By the speed with which that guy can put on a t-shirt. 0.99

00:14:37.000 When are these people gonna accept that there's a reason that people are disenchanted with democracy broadly while the biggest single constituency is the people that don't vote at all because there's no one worth voting for because the whole thing's a goddamn sham, baby.

00:14:52.000 No, that must be China have made people think that democracy don't... Iran and China have somehow convinced everybody that Lockheed Martin and Raytheon and Pfizer and all these powerful organizations have somehow been able to make people disinterested in the political process.

00:15:08.000 Sooner or later we're going to have to take responsibility for the fact that the reason people don't believe in politics and legacy media is because of their own actions.

00:15:14.000 24 US presidential election. The report says all three countries are seeking to shape the

00:15:19.000 geopolitical outcomes in their favor amid ongoing regional conflicts. The interference

00:15:25.000 efforts are likely to take place on different online platforms than those targeted in 2016

00:15:31.000 and 2020.

00:15:32.000 Online.

00:15:33.000 You've got to watch out though, because they'll have you.

00:15:36.000 They'll have you.

00:15:38.000 Hey, have you heard this?

00:15:39.000 Trump's saying that Tucker would be a good VP.

00:15:43.000 I've not heard this myself yet.

00:15:45.000 I'm pretty interested in it.

00:15:46.000 Hey, remember we got that amazing Christmas special coming up with... Well, not with a trucker.

00:15:53.000 They're all sadly in jail for standing up for themselves with Tucker.

00:15:56.000 Would you consider Tucker Carlson on your VP list?

00:16:00.000 I want to give you a hypothetical here.

00:16:02.000 I like Tucker a lot.

00:16:03.000 I guess I would.

00:16:04.000 I think I'd say I would because he's got great common sense.

00:16:08.000 You know, when they say that you guys are conservative or I'm conservative, it's not that we're conservative.

00:16:14.000 We have common sense.

00:16:15.000 We want to have safe borders.

00:16:16.000 We want to have a wall because walls work.

00:16:18.000 You know what I used to say about walls?

00:16:20.000 I'd say wheels and walls.

00:16:21.000 Everything changes.

00:16:23.000 The computer that you have in front of you in about a month from now will be totally obsolete.

00:16:27.000 Right now you have the finest equipment in the world.

00:16:29.000 What? The computer is going to rot.

00:16:31.000 That computer one month. Wheels, walls, they last forever.

00:16:34.000 And in about a month from now that equipment will be obsolete.

00:16:38.000 The only two things for centuries that's not obsolete are wheels and walls.

00:16:45.000 Right?

00:16:45.000 Never run out.

00:16:46.000 Wheels and walls.

00:16:47.000 It's so amazing.

00:16:48.000 What an amazing communicator.

00:16:49.000 It's pretty good.

00:16:50.000 No, when you think about it, right?

00:16:51.000 Wheels, a wheel will always be a wheel.

00:16:54.000 It's never going to change.

00:16:55.000 And a wall will always be a wall.

00:16:56.000 And it'll work all the time.

00:16:58.000 Remember when they were saying walls don't work?

00:16:58.000 No, no, walls work.

00:17:01.000 Joe Biden's got a wall at his beach house, by the way.

00:17:04.000 Yeah, he does.

00:17:05.000 And by the way, there are a lot of other walls.

00:17:07.000 Nancy Pelosi has a wall also.

00:17:09.000 And if she didn't have a wall, of course, it didn't work that well with respect to the husband, but you know, generally speaking, it would work.

00:17:17.000 Oh, there he goes.

00:17:19.000 We've got to get him on.

00:17:20.000 We've got to get him on.

00:17:21.000 When can we get him on?

00:17:22.000 Someone's saying, can I show the dog on camera?

00:17:24.000 There he is.

00:17:25.000 Look, that's A.H.

00:17:26.000 Will.

00:17:27.000 Oh, he moved.

00:17:28.000 Oh, that's him.

00:17:29.000 That's a good boy. 1.00

00:17:30.000 Hey there, good boy now, you big silly old dog. 1.00

00:17:33.000 You big lolly old silly old dog. 1.00

00:17:35.000 Hey, we got Jimmy Dore coming on in a minute talking about hosting a presidential primary. 0.99

00:17:40.000 Let's try and get to 20,000 before Jimmy Dore gets here.

00:17:44.000 12,000 right now watching us live on Rumble.

00:17:46.000 Get the word out.

00:17:47.000 Be quiet, you.

00:17:48.000 I'm so sorry about him.

00:17:49.000 Hey, you know Corinne Jean-Pierre, she's the press secretary of the White House.

00:17:54.000 Her job, obviously, is to speak on behalf of Joe Biden.

00:17:58.000 Whether or not it's like, you know, why can't he get a t-shirt on, what's going on with censorship, House Hunters, laptop, these, that.

00:18:08.000 She is the woman you turn to to answer the questions.

00:18:11.000 What number is it on, mate?

00:18:14.000 Roll through that, guys.

00:18:15.000 Thank you.

00:18:16.000 It's something that's just breaking right now.

00:18:17.000 The House Oversight Committee has issued subpoenas for Hunter Biden, James Biden, and Biden family business associate Rob Walker.

00:18:25.000 Firstly, I love this guy in the bowtie that's asking the question.

00:18:28.000 It's lovely.

00:18:29.000 Good cross-section of the culture right there.

00:18:31.000 There's, I feel like it's a Jewish guy.

00:18:33.000 There's a person of color.

00:18:34.000 This is good.

00:18:35.000 This, that is working well.

00:18:37.000 But let's see how she responds to the question.

00:18:40.000 Do you have a comment on that?

00:18:42.000 All right.

00:18:42.000 Should they comply with it?

00:18:42.000 Thanks, everybody.

00:18:47.000 I'm not here to answer questions on behalf of the government.

00:18:51.000 Well, could you just read your job description?

00:18:54.000 To answer questions on... Oh, well, I'm sorry.

00:18:57.000 A lot of those questions are pretty difficult to answer.

00:19:01.000 So, hey, what do you want us to cover next?

00:19:03.000 We've got a really good story from my country, the UK.

00:19:05.000 Did you know I'm English?

00:19:06.000 There's this COVID inquiry in our country where it won't go far enough.

00:19:10.000 Of course it won't.

00:19:11.000 And would there have been a COVID inquiry at all without independent media voices saying, I think you guys are making some pretty crazy decisions right now.

00:19:20.000 There's, um, they wanted to find, they had 10 grand, £10,000 fines in our country.

00:19:25.000 That's British pounds from the Bank of England.

00:19:27.000 That's not your dollary dues.

00:19:28.000 So do you want to see a little bit from the COVID inquiry, what it looks like?

00:19:32.000 still got a hand, Jill. They've not learned a thing. Or if you want to see a president of a

00:19:37.000 Federal Reserve Bank in Minneapolis admitting that CBDCs are simply a way for the government

00:19:42.000 to monitor all transactions, press two. To see a bit of a British COVID inquiry, press one. Let me

00:19:49.000 know what you want in the chat. One, one, two, two, one, one. I'm going to go with the COVID inquiry.

00:19:54.000 There's a still of Boris Johnson. He wanted bigger fines for the rule breakers. And what

00:20:01.000 number for Priya Pratel? Is it 10? Did you think that a new flat fine of £10,000 was proportionate?

00:20:08.000 It was very high.

00:20:10.000 It was, it was just... Was it proportionate?

00:20:14.000 See, they've got their hand gel.

00:20:15.000 They've got their hand gel and it's Covid Inquiry.

00:20:17.000 Pay attention.

00:20:19.000 In light of the civil libertarian issues, the public health context and the fact that these fines were being produced and imposed for breaches of Social movements?

00:20:34.000 The answer is no.

00:20:36.000 It's pretty extraordinary because during the Covid inquiry some of the things they won't be talking about, oh my god, well the lack of clinical trials on transmission, but they won't cover insignificant death.

00:20:48.000 Some of the things we've just learned about AstraZeneca, we can publicly say now that the AstraZeneca Vaccine was defective and caused blood clots that the WHO did not convey that information quickly enough.

00:20:59.000 A lot of you are pressing 2 in the chat, so we'll cover the CBDC thing.

00:21:03.000 Where is Gareth?

00:21:04.000 Ask FrogmanX.

00:21:05.000 He's right there.

00:21:05.000 Sometimes you can see his reflection in the glass there.

00:21:09.000 Just a ghostly figure, like the haunting ghosts of your founding fathers occupying the dead shell of a democracy that once was.

00:21:16.000 Or a republic, as some of you like to call it sometimes.

00:21:19.000 Guess who we've got coming on now?

00:21:20.000 If you're watching us on YouTube, we're going to leave because Jimmy Dore's coming on right now to tell us, along with Christina Tobin who's organising it, what it's going to be like hosting the first independent presidential debate.

00:21:32.000 Is Trump going to show?

00:21:33.000 I don't know.

00:21:35.000 How are you going to handle those peculiar characters?

00:21:39.000 The primaries, the Republican primaries, were hotting up.

00:21:42.000 No, they're getting a little bit more interesting.

00:21:44.000 We've fought for a long time that you want to see someone like Jimmy Dore run one of these things.

00:21:48.000 In fact, specifically Jimmy Dore.

00:21:50.000 Now he finally is.

00:21:51.000 So if you're watching us on YouTube, click the link In the description right now, and join us over on Rumble so I can ask Jimmy and Christina whatever the hell I want, so we can speak freely, so we can decide for ourselves what's safe, so we can decide for ourselves what's good for us, so we can decide for ourselves what information to take seriously and what information to ignore.

00:22:10.000 Stuff that won't be covered in that COVID inquiry, I can tell you, because they were pretty determined to censor and control.

00:22:16.000 You know how they exploit crises, don't you?

00:22:19.000 Okay, so we're off YouTube now.

00:22:20.000 If you're watching us on Rumble, Press the red button, become an awakened wonder, support this movement as we grow, and please join me in welcoming, in whatever way you want, maybe you can just simply blow out your cheeks, you can pull out your ears, you can slap your own thighs wherever you are in this sweet world of ours, and welcome Jimmy Dore.

00:22:38.000 Alright Jimmy and Christina Tobin, you're both there together in the same frame, I wasn't sure what to anticipate.

00:22:44.000 Thank you so much for joining us, both of you.

00:22:47.000 It's my pleasure.

00:22:47.000 Thanks for having us.

00:22:49.000 Hi, nice to meet you, Russell.

00:22:50.000 Nice to meet you, Christina.

00:22:52.000 Jimmy, I want to thank you again for coming on straight away when I was in the mad midst of that onslaught.

00:22:57.000 I really appreciate you standing up for being a man of principle.

00:23:00.000 And to see a man of principle in a position where you're conducting a presidential debate is astonishing and surprising.

00:23:08.000 Can you tell me exactly how this thing's going to shake down?

00:23:10.000 Who are you anticipating participating in, first of all, just so I can have an image of it?

00:23:17.000 Well, the way it's going to work is people are going to vote on a blockchain app that's going to be released, I think, later next month.

00:23:25.000 And so it's going to be democracy.

00:23:27.000 So people can vote.

00:23:28.000 And the first top six presidential vote getters are going to be in our independent presidential debate.

00:23:35.000 And no matter who it is.

00:23:36.000 And so, you know, I'm hoping it's going to be President Trump.

00:23:41.000 I hope it's going to be. 0.97

00:23:43.000 I know Joe Biden won't debate anybody because, you know, he's demented.

00:23:47.000 But I hope it will be people like Jill Stein, Cornel West, Bobby Kennedy.

00:23:52.000 And that would be really an amazing thing to happen.

00:23:55.000 And so that's what I'm looking forward to.

00:23:58.000 And you know, in the United States, we used to have real presidential debates when they were run by a group called the League of Women Voters.

00:24:06.000 And then, of course, both corporate parties in America didn't like that they were being asked real questions and they were being exposed to the American people for the frauds that they are.

00:24:15.000 So they got rid of that, those kind of debates, and they developed their own private company that's funded by corporations that now runs the presidential debates.

00:24:24.000 It's called the Committee for Presidential Debates, the CPD.

00:24:27.000 And so, guess who gets to choose?

00:24:29.000 They get to choose who the people who ask the questions are.

00:24:32.000 And who asks the questions?

00:24:34.000 The people who get their checks signed by the corporations, the military-industrial complex, Wall Street, and Big Pharma.

00:24:40.000 Those are the people who are asking questions during presidential debates.

00:24:44.000 And they get to okay the questions.

00:24:47.000 It's more of a circus than it is an actual debate.

00:24:50.000 And so, we're pushing for independence.

00:24:52.000 Well, we're going to actually do one.

00:24:53.000 We're actually doing an independent presidential debate.

00:24:56.000 It's going to happen in February.

00:24:58.000 And we're trying to raise money for it right now.

00:25:00.000 We've already raised $10,000.

00:25:01.000 We need $30,000 to get over the hump.

00:25:04.000 And it's going to be real democracy. 0.99

00:25:08.000 And just like Vivek said the other night, why are you having these tools of corporate America up here do this circus and ask these stupid questions and control the debate? 0.99

00:25:19.000 They're actually controlling the narrative. 0.99

00:25:21.000 And why not?

00:25:21.000 He said, why not have somebody like Tucker Carlson or Joe Rogan?

00:25:24.000 Well, I'm here.

00:25:26.000 I was I was hurt that he didn't mention my name.

00:25:28.000 And but here here I am.

00:25:31.000 And so I'm ready to do it.

00:25:32.000 And we're actually looking for I would love Joe Rogan to jump on.

00:25:35.000 That would be fantastic if he could.

00:25:38.000 So or someone similar.

00:25:41.000 But right now, this is the only independent and real presidential candidates debate.

00:25:47.000 And because the other one is a sham.

00:25:49.000 And so go back I've already learned that the debates themselves have been corporatised and what's presented as an open debate, an opportunity for us to assess presidential candidates, is part of the very system that makes the whole charade redundant.

00:26:04.000 Christina, can you tell us, was it the spirit of the earlier debates that's inspired you?

00:26:09.000 How are you going to make it work technically?

00:26:11.000 How optimistic you are about it?

00:26:13.000 What led you to select Jimmy Dore there, the outspoken, I'd call him trans-political, progressive yet traditional, populist everyman, comic hero, to host it?

00:26:28.000 Well, Jimmy's right.

00:26:29.000 We're going to have a blockchain app powered by Nexus.io.

00:26:33.000 Really, through ranked choice voting, the people are going to vote the top six candidates.

00:26:37.000 I founded Free and Equal Elections over 15 years ago.

00:26:40.000 We've been hosting presidential debates for 15 years.

00:26:43.000 We've had Larry King in 2012, Ed Asner.

00:26:47.000 I moderated three live presidential debates during a lockdown year in 2020.

00:26:52.000 The people wanted Jimmy Dore, a coalition of organizers, a lot of them from the Rage Against the War Machine rally last February.

00:26:59.000 They have another event this February at Lincoln Memorial, and many groups and organizations brought Jimmy and I together, and I met him last year in D.C.

00:27:07.000 at that event, Rage Against the War Machine.

00:27:09.000 He's hard-hitting, he's not beholden to special interest money, and he's funny.

00:27:15.000 You are too, Russell, and it's just like such an honor to be sitting here between two very accountable individuals that speak their truth, aren't beholden to the special interests like the Mainstream Commission on Presidential Debates, which is really crumbling, an expired platform that is run by big money, and it was stolen by the League of Women Voters in the late 70s, who originally created the debate.

00:27:37.000 The CPD has perpetuated a fraud in American voters.

00:27:40.000 The League of Women Voters has stated that. 0.54

00:27:42.000 I agree with them.

00:27:43.000 And what an honor for Free and Equal Elections to be hosting this presidential debate in Los Angeles.

00:27:49.000 We are finalizing at XR Studios 360 immersive venue in Los Angeles this winter.

00:27:57.000 And Jimmy's a perfect moderator.

00:27:58.000 We are seeking another co-moderator.

00:28:00.000 I would love for Joe Rogan, for the people out there, Please reach out to Joe Rogan and ask him to join Jimmy and I at this debate for the people this winter in Los Angeles at XR Studios.

00:28:11.000 I think it sounds like an extremely exciting event and Jimmy I think if Vivek had said one more name it would have been yours so don't Don't carry that burden.

00:28:21.000 How do you think that Biden's approach to financing multiple wars has influenced the polls?

00:28:28.000 How do you think the recent military developments in the Middle East have further prohibited free speech around that subject?

00:28:36.000 That's a question for you, Jimmy.

00:28:41.000 You know, it was interesting to me, Russell, that as soon as the left-right coalition was obvious in the United States coming to stop the funding of the war in Ukraine, all of a sudden another war happened and they shifted their attention.

00:28:52.000 And so they're going to get there.

00:28:54.000 It's ongoing wars, as Julian Assange taught us, that these wars aren't meant to be won.

00:28:58.000 These wars are meant to be ongoing.

00:29:00.000 And I think people are starting to wake up to that.

00:29:03.000 And what I like to do is hold people accountable, right?

00:29:09.000 So accountable for what they say.

00:29:11.000 And so some people think that I'm going hard on Bobby Kennedy.

00:29:16.000 There was no bigger supporter of what Bobby Kennedy's message was, especially around COVID, especially around free speech.

00:29:23.000 Bobby Kennedy said that if you don't have free speech, you don't have a democracy.

00:29:26.000 And I got so excited when I heard him say that.

00:29:28.000 And so now I want to hold him to that.

00:29:30.000 Right.

00:29:31.000 And so and I want to hold him to his anti-war message because he had a great anti-war message.

00:29:35.000 He told the truth about the CIA.

00:29:37.000 He told the truth about the funding in Ukraine.

00:29:39.000 He told the truth about the proxy war in Russia.

00:29:42.000 And so I think it's our job in the independent media to hold people to those to what they say and to those ideals.

00:29:49.000 And so people are tired.

00:29:51.000 of these ongoing wars.

00:29:53.000 People in the, you know, what I like to say is that they sent a hundred billion dollars to Ukraine,

00:29:58.000 which is the most corrupt country in Europe.

00:30:00.000 They sent it there without any oversight.

00:30:01.000 I'm talking about the United States government and without any debate in the United States.

00:30:05.000 If you wanted to give $10 billion to the people in America, they would have to,

00:30:10.000 which would pay for community college for everybody.

00:30:12.000 That would take decade or two of debate.

00:30:15.000 You'd have to have op-eds in every New York Times and the Washington Post.

00:30:18.000 Anderson Cooper would have to interview regular people, $10 billion, that's a lot of money.

00:30:22.000 But for a hundred billion dollars to the most corrupt country in Europe without any oversight,

00:30:26.000 it happened in a blink of an eye.

00:30:27.000 And that's how you know it's all corruption.

00:30:29.000 For a hundred billion dollars, if we could have spent that money in the United States,

00:30:33.000 they say you could end homelessness in the United States Let's just say that's true.

00:30:38.000 So for $100 billion, we could have ended homelessness, then started it again, and then said we were just kidding, and then ended it again.

00:30:46.000 And for $100 billion, Russell, don't you think they could have put some money in there for a dog that would lead Joe Biden offstage when he's done giving a speech?

00:30:54.000 It would seem to be a reasonable investment to get some sort of intelligent canine to help him get off the stage and maybe some sort of, I don't know, bird to help him with t-shirts as well, which he seems to struggle with equally.

00:31:07.000 This kind of packaging together of numerous wars, this inability to discuss them, the Constant use of pundits on legacy media to advocate for war without declaring their interests and connections to military-industrial complex companies means that the typical type of discourse is bounded and parametered within very, very narrow lines indeed, Christina.

00:31:30.000 How do you feel that some of the candidates that are favoured will respond to being asked questions that are a little more, perhaps, aggressive, come in as they will, from Jimmy Dore there, who we know don't hold back.

00:31:44.000 Are you concerned that they may not participate?

00:31:46.000 I mean, we've already kind of ruled out Biden.

00:31:48.000 Do you think Trump will go?

00:31:50.000 Do you think Ron DeSantis will go?

00:31:51.000 Who do you think you need there for this project to be verifiable and to work?

00:31:59.000 Well, it's up to the people.

00:32:00.000 The blockchain app powered by Nexus.io launches in January and so you can go on our website freeandequal.org and you can register today for more updates on that app as well as submit a question because we really want to hear from the people.

00:32:14.000 What questions do you want to have?

00:32:16.000 The people are going to vote them and I think anything is possible.

00:32:19.000 We see a big pushback on even on the ballot access side across the board to keep Trump and even Kennedy I foresee off the ballot and so these gentlemen and many others are going to need an independent platform to be heard and what separates our debates from the others is that or from the commission on presidential debates is that we use the The League of Women Voters cumulative format.

00:32:42.000 So our debates really engaged more of a conversation a two minute opening question two minute closing each candidate.

00:32:48.000 There's be about five questions or so has two minutes to respond to each question in order and they have a certain amount of rebuttals or expansions on questions.

00:32:56.000 So we're here as moderators to listen to the candidates and to learn from them and let the people decide.

00:33:02.000 I think it's possible that anyone can show up at our debates because There's not really many other options right now.

00:33:08.000 We're seeing debate platforms, a few that we have, that are very argumentative, where the candidates are really taking over the debates.

00:33:14.000 And Vivek is right.

00:33:15.000 We need a debate.

00:33:16.000 We're here at Free and Equal Elections.

00:33:18.000 This is the debate Vivek and many other candidates are asking for, and we look forward when the people vote them in.

00:33:24.000 I hope, whether it's Bobby, Marianne, Cornel West, Jill Stein, and many more of Vivek, Nikki, whoever it is, they should be there for the people, and we welcome their equally.

00:33:34.000 Independent media has already changed politics.

00:33:37.000 Perhaps it was immediately observable with Trump and Trump's ability to communicate and bypass the legacy media who didn't give him a chance and wouldn't have given him a chance.

00:33:46.000 The rise of candidates like Vivek Ramaswamy is a further example of how independent media can be used to showcase and house new political voices and of course Bobby Kennedy and the way that he's used various podcasts and streamers including us That shows you that independent media is altering the political landscape.

00:34:06.000 So a debate like this, in a sense, is a necessary and natural progression.

00:34:09.000 And I think it'll be not easy, but I can see how a climate will emerge that if people don't participate in this debate, they'll be seen as cowardly, ducking out, avoiding the democracy and the electorate in the ways that they claim not to.

00:34:25.000 They want to be accessible.

00:34:26.000 They want to be accountable.

00:34:27.000 They want to seem like they're participating in this process.

00:34:30.000 Jimmy, how do you feel like independent media has created a new environment for politicians and has created a new class of politicians?

00:34:38.000 Do you think we're at the beginning of this and you'll see new people emerge?

00:34:41.000 And I know it's something I ask you every time I speak to you, could you see yourself being on the other side of that?

00:34:45.000 Not behind the pulpit, asking the questions and moderating, but standing for some kind of candidacy?

00:34:51.000 Now save the narcissistic bit for the end, Jimmy.

00:34:56.000 Well, to answer your last question first, yes, I was interested in doing that because I think that there needs to be a voice that's not bought by corporations or to foreign lobbying groups and actually just speaks for the people.

00:35:11.000 And I think people are hungry for that.

00:35:13.000 I think that's why uh you and people like me have a wide you know it used to be my audience was just former Bernie Sanders supporters but now my audience is what I have I have hippies when you know when I do live performances I have hippies come to my shows I have guys in three-piece suits I have former military people I have elderly people I have teenagers

00:35:32.000 I have black, I have white, I have every... and so that's the kind of thing I think people need right now.

00:35:36.000 Someone that is just speaking to the people and they don't care so much if they agree with me on everything.

00:35:41.000 What they really appreciate, especially with you and people like me and Joe Rogan, is that we we're not bought and they can trust that if we're saying something it's actually coming from our heart and we're not saying it because we took money from someone or we're influenced by some foreign lobby or something like that.

00:35:58.000 So I think that's the big deal and independent media You know, Bobby Kennedy's almost his entire campaign has been fueled by independent media right now, right?

00:36:07.000 So he's making the round on podcasts, and he's getting his message out there.

00:36:11.000 And, well, he just went on PBS the other day.

00:36:14.000 I can't believe they invited him on PBS, because I think they wanted to slander him, which they did.

00:36:18.000 I just dropped a video yesterday about it.

00:36:20.000 And, of course, Bobby Kennedy's good at that now, and he knows he can seize those smears coming, and he was able to push back on that right away.

00:36:26.000 So I think independent media is essential.

00:36:30.000 And it is changing the landscape, and that's why they have to have such narrative control, right?

00:36:34.000 And that's why they have to try to discredit people like you, and try to discredit people like me and Joe Rogan, is because the corporations, all they have is narrative control, and I've said this before, and if they can't control the narrative, then they have to start disappearing people, and that's a lot harder to keep covered up.

00:36:49.000 So, independent media is really poking a hole, and by, you know, we have a lot of, thank God for Rumble, right?

00:36:56.000 And thank God for Rumble, and thank God for Rumble. 0.99

00:36:59.000 And Rumble's really picking up steam, and a lot of people are finding out about it.

00:37:04.000 And thank God for Rumble, because, you know, YouTube, which is an amazing platform, right?

00:37:10.000 You can get your message out on YouTube like no other social media out there.

00:37:14.000 And it's been a big part of my show and it's been a big part of Bobby Kennedy's campaign also.

00:37:20.000 But YouTube is owned by the richest corporation in the history of mankind.

00:37:24.000 It's Google and they want narrative control and now they suppress and the algorithm suppresses people like me and

00:37:30.000 you.

00:37:31.000 And they push people towards what they call reliable news sources, which is just legacy media, which is just the

00:37:39.000 corporate owned media.

00:37:40.000 And the reason why people came to YouTube in the first place was because they didn't feel like they were getting the truth from those places because they're funded by the military-industrial complex, Big Pharma, and Wall Street.

00:37:51.000 And everybody knows that now.

00:37:52.000 So people want an independent voice like ours, and it's actually working.

00:37:57.000 So when it started to really work is when they have to start suppressing us, having the algorithm get us also suppressed.

00:38:05.000 And also discrediting us.

00:38:07.000 Look what they did to Joe Rogan.

00:38:08.000 Joe Rogan, he endorsed Bernie Sanders.

00:38:11.000 He said he would vote for somebody like AOC. 0.88

00:38:13.000 And they call him a right-wing crazy. 0.87

00:38:15.000 And they call me the same thing. 0.97

00:38:16.000 They say the same thing about you.

00:38:17.000 And I say, yeah, I'm into all those crazy right-wing things like, you know, bodily autonomy, which used to be known as my body, my choice.

00:38:24.000 Freedom of speech and anti-censorship used to be a lefty value for as long as I can remember.

00:38:28.000 And I'm anti-war.

00:38:30.000 Those are my three big issues.

00:38:31.000 And Medicare for all.

00:38:32.000 So that always used to be considered staunch lefty positions and now they slander you and say that you're a right winger for pushing those things that have been lefty positions my whole life.

00:38:42.000 And people have coalesced around those issues, by the way.

00:38:45.000 Almost everybody is for a version of everything I just said.

00:38:49.000 And even Medicare for All, right?

00:38:51.000 So, depending on the poll and depending on how you ask the questions, somewhere around 70% of even conservative voters want the government to take a bigger role in taking care of healthcare here in the United States.

00:39:02.000 We're the last country in the West that doesn't have healthcare for everybody.

00:39:08.000 Yeah, I'm excited about independent media.

00:39:11.000 I'm super excited about Rumble, and Rumble is really taking off, and Rumble's actually going to be getting their version of advertising, which is what makes YouTube lucrative for people and makes it sustainable for people to do shows like this.

00:39:25.000 So now Rumble's actually going to be able to be doing that going forward, I've been told, by people in the know.

00:39:30.000 So I'm really excited about it, and thank God for Rumble.

00:39:33.000 Yeah, they're broadcasting the presidential debate.

00:39:36.000 Oh, that's right.

00:39:36.000 Thanks, Rumble, so much for supporting this debate.

00:39:39.000 Yeah, they've already agreed to broadcast the presidential debate that we're going to be hosting, so thank God for Rumble.

00:39:47.000 We will thank our Lord God for Rumble.

00:39:49.000 I thank God for Rumble most days, man.

00:39:52.000 And it's exciting that this is going to be on Rumble and it's going to be funded by people.

00:39:58.000 Funded, you say, through blockchain technologies to ensure, I suppose, that there will be no topics that are off-limits.

00:40:06.000 For example, you know, in our country... Excuse me.

00:40:10.000 AstraZeneca have just lost a case and they've had to admit that the vaccine is defective and it's likely that there's going to be huge payouts as a result of that.

00:40:22.000 Now we've talked a lot about the pandemic and we've talked about what's been revealed by the pandemic, the convergence of pharmaceutical interests, the corruption, the ineffective measures that have been undertaken, the inability to communicate openly around them, the censorship, Do you feel, Christina, that this is one of the subjects that will be covered?

00:40:41.000 And how much are you planning to curate and control the content?

00:40:44.000 Or are you saying that all of it will be directed by the people that are funding it?

00:40:49.000 Which means, you know, the people that can contribute through blockchain?

00:40:54.000 I'm glad you asked that.

00:40:56.000 We plan to ask the people to do a poll through our blockchain app, not only to vote in the top six candidates, but what questions.

00:41:03.000 And that's why we're asking them to submit questions today and sign up for more information for the blockchain app at freeandequal.org.

00:41:10.000 So the people will decide a couple of the questions, I think at least two of the five, and then the moderators Jimmy Dore here and hopefully Joe Rogan.

00:41:19.000 Please reach out and ask him to be a part of this debate.

00:41:23.000 They can have say on the other questions and they'll be hard hitting questions.

00:41:27.000 So truly every all the topics that you mentioned and more.

00:41:30.000 This is actually a presidential debate series.

00:41:33.000 So this is a kickoff for a series.

00:41:34.000 We're going to have quite a few debates into 2024.

00:41:38.000 So this is the beginning.

00:41:39.000 I couldn't be more honored than kicking it off with Jimmy the way to make this happen It's the people who are funding it.

00:41:44.000 We raised 10k.

00:41:46.000 Thank you Jimmy for promoting our campaign at free and equal org Please go at free and equal org today and donate so we can hit that 30,000 it's gonna take six figures to really lock it in at XR studios What a bit what a venue so thank you so much Russell again for both of you gentlemen using your platform to make You're already making real change in the world, but now taking it to a presidential debate and bringing these candidates together.

00:42:12.000 I'm excited to learn and bring these ideas together.

00:42:15.000 And thank you, Domen, for all the work that you do in overcoming these odds, because they are intentionally trying to censor you.

00:42:21.000 And what's brewing here at FreeNickel.org is a bigger vision.

00:42:25.000 It's truly an independent movement building, and I can go into greater detail another time.

00:42:30.000 Uh, but there are more independent voters, and there are Democrats and Republicans, and I have seen this being in the electoral arena for 25 years.

00:42:38.000 I'm 42 years old now, and I've seen it.

00:42:40.000 The restrictive ballot access barriers that we don't have alternative voting methods.

00:42:44.000 These voting machines that are of default dominion cannot be trusted.

00:42:49.000 We need to open the presidential debates.

00:42:51.000 And so there's a bigger vision here and I look forward to working both with you both of you long term to really bring about free and equal elections not only throughout the United States the whole world is watching and we when we unite all doesn't matter whether you're from Israel or Palestine or Ukraine or Russia when we all all different genders and races together And recognize when we unite here in America, the whole world will follow.

00:43:14.000 And I see the Democrats and Republicans, I see beyond party lines, uh, there being more independent voters being peacefully, peacefully replaced into the really flowing into the congressional races into 2026.

00:43:25.000 So this is an exciting year, uh, for independence.

00:43:30.000 And I see all the candidates, whoever's running for president, there's over 150 candidates running for president.

00:43:35.000 That's amazing.

00:43:36.000 And I hope all of them consider running for Congress in 2026.

00:43:40.000 That's fantastic, Christina.

00:43:41.000 So go to Free and Equal to contribute and ensure that this debate takes place, that you'll be able to watch on Rumble.

00:43:48.000 Let us know in the chat right now what subjects you want to see debated by presidential candidates.

00:43:54.000 Do you want to talk about the Ukraine war?

00:43:56.000 Do you want to see about how war is being funded?

00:43:58.000 Do you want to talk about legacy media and censorship?

00:44:00.000 Do you want to talk about the pandemic?

00:44:02.000 Someone says, please don't ask Russell to moderate.

00:44:04.000 His questions are longer than the answers.

00:44:05.000 Very fair.

00:44:06.000 You're going to have trouble with Jimmy Dore, let me tell you.

00:44:08.000 There's not going to be many five word questions from the man, Dore.

00:44:12.000 I'll tell you that right now.

00:44:13.000 Jimmy, when we talk, often what you say is the thing they fear the most is people coming together beyond political categorisations, beyond cultural divisions.

00:44:24.000 How are you going to frame that in what is, to some degree, sure to be a partisan endeavour?

00:44:31.000 So there's no doubt that the corporate media here, at least in the United States, is the report.

00:44:37.000 So we used to have 50 giant media companies in America when I was a kid.

00:44:42.000 And then in 1996, Bill Clinton, who was a tool of the establishment and a tool of Wall Street and a tool of the military-industrial complex, He took us down from 50 giant media companies, and now there's just six in the United States.

00:44:56.000 So now it's just every newspaper, every TV show, every radio show, everything you see is controlled by just a handful of billionaires, and the same kind of handful of billionaires that Run the entire world.

00:45:10.000 And they report every story in a way that takes your eye off the ball.

00:45:15.000 They report every story that makes you blame your neighbor and hate your neighbor for the pain you're feeling.

00:45:20.000 Like, you know, during COVID, they did a lockdown.

00:45:24.000 The billionaire class did a lockdown that smashed and crushed people.

00:45:29.000 They did a controlled demolition of our economy.

00:45:31.000 And it only and it made about 400 new billionaires, but everybody else felt the pain from that and now they want me

00:45:37.000 to blame my neighbor for the pain that I'm feeling economically because

00:45:41.000 of what the billionaire and the establishment class did and they want

00:45:44.000 me to blame my neighbor and hate my neighbor because they wouldn't take a 0.57

00:45:47.000 Vaccine that didn't work the way they said it did in the first place. Well, I'm not gonna hate my neighbor

00:45:52.000 I'm gonna love my neighbor and I'm gonna join with my neighbor against those oligarchs

00:45:57.000 Because that's the only thing that scares them to see people from the left the right in the center

00:46:01.000 Coming together to coalesce around a common enemy And that common enemy is the oligarch.

00:46:07.000 You know, the United States is not a democracy.

00:46:09.000 That's what the Democrats like to say right now.

00:46:11.000 Well, you have to keep voting for Dementor Joe so that you've got to save your democracy. 0.98

00:46:16.000 Democracy's on the ballot.

00:46:17.000 Hey, your democracy was stolen from you decades ago.

00:46:20.000 Princeton study 10 years ago proved that we don't live in a democracy, that we live in an actual oligarchy, and your vote actually doesn't matter right now, because they do.

00:46:29.000 You know, when the Iraq war was happening, there were millions and millions of people in the street.

00:46:33.000 Millions of people in the street around the world.

00:46:35.000 Didn't make a difference.

00:46:36.000 They got their war.

00:46:37.000 Famously, Leslie Stahl was interviewing Dick Cheney, and she said, you know, three-quarters of the American people are against this Iraq war.

00:46:43.000 And his response to that was, so what?

00:46:46.000 And so that's what the corporate media does.

00:46:49.000 The corporate media makes us blame each other, turn on each other.

00:46:52.000 Right now, the corporate media in America makes you think that your neighbor is your enemy, that half the country, the same country that elected an African-American, Barack Obama, twice, somehow they became the most racist country in the world.

00:47:05.000 All they talk about is racism, racism, racism.

00:47:08.000 And racism has gotten better and better and better every year of my life, to the point that we elected Barack Obama twice.

00:47:15.000 And so, but they want you to think half the country's racist.

00:47:17.000 They want you to think that the truckers in Canada are Nazis.

00:47:20.000 You know, that's the thing about that.

00:47:22.000 That's the beauty of how their corporate propaganda works and the beauty of them having only six companies, right?

00:47:28.000 because now everybody who works in the media knows that they can't get step out of line

00:47:32.000 because there's nowhere else to go to get a job.

00:47:34.000 And so the power of that propaganda, it makes people in America,

00:47:37.000 we can't tell the difference between a Nazi and a freedom fighter.

00:47:41.000 We look at the truckers who are freedom fighter.

00:47:42.000 By the way, the truckers were vaccinated at a higher rate than the general population in Canada.

00:47:47.000 They weren't protesting medicine. 0.81

00:47:49.000 They were protesting bullshit authoritarianism and they were right and they were freedom fighters. 0.97

00:47:54.000 And in America we can't tell the difference between a freedom fighter and a Nazi because the corporate media tells us they're Nazis. 0.91

00:48:00.000 So we look at the freedom fighting truckers and we call them Nazis and we look at actual Nazis in Ukraine and we call them freedom fighters.

00:48:07.000 And so that's what we're pushing back against, and that's what they're afraid of.

00:48:09.000 They're afraid of voices like mine, voices like yours, that actually tell you that up is down and black is white.

00:48:15.000 That's what the corporate media tells you.

00:48:17.000 Whatever the corporate media is telling you, the exact opposite is usually true.

00:48:20.000 And so that is the only thing that scares them, is when people come together along class lines and not political partisan lines.

00:48:27.000 That's what scares them, and that's what they're That's what they're determined to keep us divided.

00:48:33.000 They're determined to keep us blaming each other.

00:48:35.000 And not only that, but hating each other and fearing our neighbor.

00:48:38.000 And let's remember, the people who run this country, the billionaire class, they don't care if there's a civil war in our country.

00:48:45.000 Chaos always favors the establishment.

00:48:47.000 And then if you get afraid of your neighbor, and your neighbor's a Nazi, and your neighbor's a white supremacist, That, oh, you're going to be begging for the government to come in and provide security for you and take away more civil liberties and your freedoms.

00:49:01.000 You know, they used 9-11 to pass a thing called the Patriot Act.

00:49:05.000 How Orwellian is that?

00:49:06.000 The Patriot Act turned the United States into a surveillance state.

00:49:09.000 So now every email and every phone call and every text you send, they are monitoring.

00:49:14.000 And then Barack Obama, he repealed habeas corpus.

00:49:18.000 So now you don't have a right to a speedy trial and all they have to do is say you're a terrorist to do it and they'll do that, right?

00:49:23.000 And Barack Obama, his whole entire cabinet came from one email from Citigroup, which is Wall Street, right?

00:49:31.000 So he was a puppet of Wall Street and everybody knows it.

00:49:33.000 And the reason I know his entire cabinet came from that was because Julian Assange revealed that in WikiLeaks, which is why they've been trying to kill that guy and demonize him since he did that.

00:49:43.000 And so I'll just end it there.

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00:51:04.000 One of the things I didn't have time to talk to Jimmy and Christina about was, look, check this out.

00:51:09.000 Hillary Clinton, George Bush, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, John Fetterman.

00:51:13.000 What do they all have in common?

00:51:16.000 None of them will talk about peace.

00:51:18.000 None of them will talk about a ceasefire.

00:51:20.000 Have you noticed now that legacy media won't even discuss that possibility when it comes to the Middle Eastern conflict?

00:51:27.000 Those ideas are off the table, off the agenda.

00:51:31.000 We have to find ways to come together.

00:51:33.000 We have to listen to voices that advocate for peace.

00:51:36.000 We have to provide an environment where those that are caught up in the mad heartbreak and bereavement of insanity and war are able to be held.

00:51:48.000 In this conversation, we'll talk about the influence that Raytheon, Lockheed Martin have over legacy media.

00:51:53.000 We'll be talking about how legacy media are censoring even conversation around peace.

00:51:58.000 When was it that that happened?

00:51:59.000 When was that decision made?

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00:52:48.000 Now why don't the establishment want a ceasefire?

00:52:51.000 Hillary Clinton, George Bush, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders and John Fetterman will not discuss peace.

00:52:58.000 It doesn't matter where you come from religiously, ideologically or nationally.

00:53:03.000 We should find a way, surely, not to be on the same side as Clinton, Bush and Obama.

00:53:09.000 Here's the news.

00:53:09.000 Shouldn't we?

00:53:10.000 No.

00:53:11.000 Here's the effing news.

00:53:12.000 No. 1.00

00:53:13.000 Here's the fucking news. 0.99

00:53:18.000 What do Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, George W. 0.99

00:53:22.000 Bush and even Bernie Sanders have in common?

00:53:24.000 They all want to escalate the war in the Middle East, even though it could lead to World War III.

00:53:33.000 This escalating conflict in the Middle East is perhaps the most sensitive of all the global sensitive issues that there are right now.

00:53:39.000 It's very difficult to talk about Ukraine-Russia because of Ukrainian people and the escalating situation in China. 0.96

00:53:44.000 There are cultural issues that are very difficult to discuss now because we're so divided.

00:53:48.000 But the mother of all issues is, of course, the conflict between Israel and Palestine because it seemed very difficult to say that Hamas's attack was wrong.

00:53:56.000 Israel's response is brutal and devastating. 0.63

00:53:59.000 And if we don't end this, it's going to get Worse and worse, obviously.

00:54:03.000 That's simply obvious.

00:54:04.000 And even saying both sides, actually, is something people don't like.

00:54:06.000 One side's an army with nuclear war, the other one's essentially in an open prison.

00:54:10.000 You know, this is very, very difficult to discuss.

00:54:11.000 But where there is agreement is in the political class and in the financial sector, particularly the Military Industrial Congress and people in Congress that own shares in weapons manufacturing companies.

00:54:22.000 They all want this war to continue to escalate.

00:54:25.000 Now, I know how divisive this is.

00:54:26.000 I know there are some people that will settle for nothing less than support Israel, and other people who will settle for nothing less than support Palestine.

00:54:33.000 How will we ever get to a point where we're able to, even at the level of conversation with people that are not involved, reach some sort of consensus if we're not willing to discuss peace?

00:54:43.000 Peace, ceasefires and de-escalation have literally been taken off the agenda by the political class and the legacy media class.

00:54:50.000 I always say this when I talk about this subject.

00:54:52.000 If you're personally involved because you are Israeli, or you're Jewish, or you're involved because you're Muslim, or you're involved because you have relatives in Palestine, or you're particularly affiliated to this issue for emotional, spiritual, religious, national reasons, then I would not try to dissuade you from your perspective. 0.92

00:55:09.000 It would be ridiculous and actually rude, impolite, almost heretical.

00:55:12.000 But for people that are not directly involved, I think we have to ...address that this is an escalating humanitarian crisis.

00:55:18.000 It's likely to lead to a migration crisis if those documents prove to be true.

00:55:22.000 I'm referring to the documentation that says it's part of an explicit plan to remove the entire population of Gaza. 0.80

00:55:28.000 Even if you just look at this in terms of migration.

00:55:30.000 And put aside for a moment the ongoing slaughter and death that's currently taking place, we have a significant global issue to address.

00:55:36.000 That's, again, without looking at the likelihood that this leads to a geopolitical crisis that's not going to be easy to walk away from if Iran get involved, if Russia get involved.

00:55:45.000 It's extraordinary.

00:55:46.000 So this is what I'm pointing to you.

00:55:48.000 Shouldn't we be able to talk about a ceasefire?

00:55:51.000 I recognize if you're an Israeli person and you are affected by those horrific terrorist attacks, you're like, these are a different type of people, they have a different type of ideology.

00:56:00.000 I recognize if you are connected to Palestine, these people have been oppressed ever since the establishment of the Israeli state, what's going on now, the bombing of a civilized population, oh well if Hamas hide there, but what if Hamas were hiding in Israel?

00:56:14.000 Like it's So difficult!

00:56:15.000 It's so difficult!

00:56:17.000 Even you find yourself saying, God, all I want is to pray for love.

00:56:20.000 All I want to pray like for the Muslim people to feel connected to Allah and peace.

00:56:23.000 For the Jewish people to feel connected to God or Yahweh and to feel peace.

00:56:27.000 That is somehow a controversial statement.

00:56:30.000 If we're going to leave this here and all of us just sort of quietly back off into our own private corners of the internet with our own particular tiles cancelling the people that we don't agree with, then I suppose what we have to accept is there's going to be a massive migrant crisis. 0.99

00:56:44.000 There's going to be an escalation of the war in the Middle East.

00:56:46.000 Raytheon and Lockheed Martin are going to make a good deal of money.

00:56:50.000 Millions of people in Palestine are going to be displaced or killed.

00:56:54.000 There will be further terrorism.

00:56:57.000 Probably not only in the Middle East, but probably across Europe and North America.

00:57:01.000 That, I think, is the price of not discussing this.

00:57:04.000 Obviously, I'm aware of my own personal limitations, now more than ever, but my own recent experiences of not speaking out have told me that difficult conversations sometimes have to be had.

00:57:15.000 So let's look at why is it that Barack Obama, George W. Bush, Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, John Fetterman, will not discuss a ceasefire.

00:57:25.000 Why is that?

00:57:26.000 Why is it that the legacy media, the mainstream media, won't even put the word cease on the tickers on the bottom of their screen, let alone invite experts in peace?

00:57:35.000 Why is it the marches and protests are so contentious?

00:57:38.000 Do you think we're all being invited to pick a side Knowing that as long as we are divided, particularly those of us, as I keep reiterating, are not Israeli, not Palestinian, not Muslim, not Jewish, those of us that have just got caught up in the mad hysteria and are unwilling to step back, as long as that's happening, how is there going to be any progress at all?

00:57:57.000 That's a genuine question.

00:57:58.000 Let me know in the chat.

00:57:59.000 Remember, we stream every day on Rumble.

00:58:01.000 We've got some incredible shows coming up for you.

00:58:03.000 But now let's look at this incredibly complex, incredibly painful issue together.

00:58:08.000 And let me reiterate once again, Whatever side of this you're on, and I mean ideologically, not militarily, I offer you absolute sympathy and I wish I could contribute in some meaningful way, even if it's just having a conversation on our channel.

00:58:20.000 Let's get into it.

00:58:25.000 Moral innocence?

00:58:26.000 But that won't solve the problem.

00:58:28.000 Even a generalised principle like that is difficult because if you were to actually approach this from a position of moral innocence you would say war is bad, violence is bad, wherever possible diplomatic solutions should be sought.

00:58:38.000 That's exactly what I'd say if it was the Ukraine-Russia conflict that we were discussing.

00:58:42.000 Here, particularly from a former president, there's an assumption, a baked in assumption, that military action is necessary.

00:58:49.000 Whether that's the droning campaigns that Obama backed, I think more than any other president, certainly more than his predecessor George W. Bush.

00:58:56.000 So Barack Obama is coming from a very particular perspective.

00:58:58.000 One thing this story does highlight is you have total hegemony when it comes to the political class.

00:59:04.000 This is one of the issues where people are not furiously debating this amount of time before you can have an abortion, no abortions at all, yes guns, no guns.

00:59:13.000 And so if you want to solve the problem, then you have to take in the whole truth.

00:59:21.000 And you then have to admit Nobody's hands are clean.

00:59:27.000 Well, your hands aren't clean.

00:59:29.000 There's an attempt by Barack Obama to sort of paint a picture where people that have literally sanctioned droning raids are the same as the rest of us.

00:59:37.000 They're like, well, actually, I'm pro-Israel.

00:59:38.000 I'm pro-Palestine.

00:59:39.000 This is one area where the invitation for everybody that's outside of the establishment classes that literally benefit from war in so many ways, it galvanizes populations.

00:59:50.000 It causes division.

00:59:51.000 It generates profit.

00:59:52.000 It's good for the media.

00:59:54.000 Anyone outside of that should be going, hey, war's bad, isn't it?

00:59:58.000 Bet.

01:00:01.000 All of us are complicit.

01:00:04.000 To some degree.

01:00:05.000 That's kind of a spiritual perspective.

01:00:07.000 Like, are you bringing to this conversation an attitude of peace and conciliation, or are you being incendiary?

01:00:12.000 You could ask that, I suppose, of yourself.

01:00:14.000 But when you're actually a president that's participated in treaties and bombing raids and assassinations and weddings being bombed, that's different.

01:00:22.000 That has to be acknowledged. 0.99

01:00:23.000 That has to be, like, when I was president, I escalated this shit. 0.98

01:00:26.000 I look at this and I think back, what could I have done During my presidency, to move this forward as hard as I tried. 0.98

01:00:35.000 I've got the scars to prove it.

01:00:36.000 Well, some people haven't got the scars because they've been annihilated by bombing raids.

01:00:41.000 This conflict has divided people.

01:00:42.000 It's divided the right.

01:00:43.000 It's divided the left.

01:00:44.000 It's pulling people apart.

01:00:46.000 And one of the only things that perhaps we could agree on is a peaceful solution as quickly as possible, an end to bombing.

01:00:55.000 Like, these are the kind of things that certainly have to be discussed.

01:00:57.000 To censor those ideas is terrifying.

01:00:59.000 But there's a part of me that's still saying, well, was there something else I could have done?

01:01:04.000 Well, yeah, there is actually.

01:01:05.000 Maybe some bankers should have gone to jail for what happened in 2008 and Yemen shouldn't have been so heavily droned. 1.00

01:01:11.000 But let's put that aside and see what Hillary Clinton's got to say on the subject. 1.00

01:01:14.000 People who are calling for a ceasefire now do not understand Hamas.

01:01:19.000 That is not possible.

01:01:21.000 Marshall McLuhan would say that the medium is the message.

01:01:24.000 In this instance, the medium is Hillary Rodham Clinton.

01:01:27.000 Hillary Clinton from the Clinton Foundation.

01:01:29.000 Hillary Clinton that's never met a war that she didn't love.

01:01:32.000 Obviously, no one's going to change their view of Hamas on the basis of information that's available about Hamas's intentions.

01:01:38.000 But you might also want to look at the conduct and behavior of the United States government, particularly when Hillary Clinton's And also perhaps collectively want to make a decision.

01:01:50.000 Whose side are we on?

01:01:51.000 And that might not be as simple as Islam, Judaism, Christianity, secularism versus a religious perspective.

01:01:58.000 It might start to become An elite establishment that benefit from perpetuating war versus everybody else who might be able to find some kind of solution were the imperialist, colonialist and economic imperatives to be removed.

01:02:11.000 A lot of people are benefiting from this war.

01:02:13.000 We'll get into that in a minute.

01:02:14.000 10,000 people in Gaza have been killed, half are children.

01:02:18.000 The Pope's calling for a ceasefire.

01:02:20.000 The UN has called for it.

01:02:22.000 I'm just asking.

01:02:23.000 I voted for you.

01:02:23.000 You're a good guy.

01:02:24.000 I know you're a nice guy.

01:02:25.000 Here, can I give you a hug?

01:02:25.000 This is important.

01:02:26.000 That's enough of that! 0.90

01:02:27.000 I can't hear you! 1.00

01:02:43.000 I can't hear you with one foolish decision after another, as you outlined, 0.99

01:02:52.000 David. 0.98

01:02:52.000 And really, people should be deeply self-reflective. 0.98

01:02:55.000 If their predictions have not come true, they should consider whether perhaps their other

01:03:02.000 predictions might not come true either.

01:03:04.000 I mean, what is the track record here?

01:03:06.000 It's not good.

01:03:07.000 He answers his own question.

01:03:09.000 The track record, indeed, is not good.

01:03:12.000 So again, it's left Elon Musk extraordinarily to be the voice of reason, as during the Ukraine-Russia conflict ongoing, it was up to him to not use Starlink to potentially exacerbate conditions by allowing it to be used by bombing raids, even though that was framed in some extraordinary ways by the dominant legacy.

01:03:30.000 Let's have a look now at how the legacy media are reporting on this.

01:03:33.000 The likelihood of a global migration crisis of unprecedented levels, as well as the potential for World War 3.

01:03:40.000 And indeed, is there a way, with this complicated issue, with all of the complicated historic religious issues involved, that there could be a peaceful and helpful conversation?

01:03:50.000 Does anybody want to have that conversation?

01:03:52.000 Let me know in the chat, let me know in the comments.

01:03:54.000 Since the October 7th Hamas attacks and the subsequent ongoing Israeli airstrikes, US TV news has offered extensive coverage of Israel and Gaza.

01:04:02.000 But as casualties mount, most outlets have paid scant attention to growing calls for ceasefire.

01:04:07.000 After Hamas killed more than 1,400 people in Israel on October 7th and took some 200 hostages, Israeli bombing killed over 5,000, now 10,000 people, in Gaza as of October 22nd, including more than 1,400 children.

01:04:15.000 That's over 4,000 children now.

01:04:20.000 They won't even know.

01:04:21.000 The children won't know whether they're Muslim and Palestinian or Jewish children.

01:04:24.000 The children on either side, if you left them and just said, listen, you guys are basically the same, they'd find a way through it.

01:04:30.000 We're imposing historic violence needlessly.

01:04:33.000 And if this is naive, then perhaps naivety might be one of the areas we should consider exploring, seeing as how wisdom, rationale, and intrinsic tribal dispute might lead to World War III.

01:04:43.000 Jewish-led protests in New York and other cities on October 13th and again in Washington DC on October 18th made a ceasefire their central message.

01:04:51.000 And a recent Data for Progress poll found that 66% of likely US voters agree that the US should call for a ceasefire and de-escalation of violence in Gaza.

01:05:00.000 So why is it not being discussed if it's something that even voters, in their run-up to an election, are interested in?

01:05:06.000 Jewish-led protests at least is some cause for Optimism, I would say, because if people that are directly affected, religiously affected, feel like peace would be the answer, perhaps this is the kind of leadership we should be looking towards, let me know in the chat. 0.79

01:05:18.000 But the Biden administration has actively tried to suppress discussion of de-escalation.

01:05:22.000 The Huffington Post reported on October the 13th that an internal State Department memo instructed staff not to use the words de-escalation or ceasefire, end to violence or bloodshed, or restoring calm in press materials on the Middle East.

01:05:36.000 We did not mention restoring calm.

01:05:37.000 What we've got to do is exacerbate tension and conflict.

01:05:41.000 Well, that seems to be going quite well.

01:05:42.000 Good.

01:05:43.000 That's because no one ever mentioned ceasefire or de-escalation.

01:05:45.000 We're doing our part in the press.

01:05:47.000 Once again, the Biden administration are involved in censorship.

01:05:50.000 If you disagree with censorship, then this is censorship.

01:05:53.000 Remember, one of the things we continually talk about is having some principles, I suppose.

01:05:57.000 That means values that don't alter on the basis that you would benefit from ignoring that principle.

01:06:02.000 Otherwise, it's not a principle, it's a tactic.

01:06:04.000 And here, the suppression of language like end to violence and restoring calm.

01:06:09.000 Like, restoring calm?

01:06:10.000 That's not something you should be saying.

01:06:10.000 Should we try and restore calm?

01:06:13.000 Looking at broader cable news coverage, FAIR found that mentions of cease appeared in closed captioning on screen for an average of only 19.7 seconds per day on Fox, 11.1 seconds per day on CNN, and 9.2 seconds per day on MSNBC.

01:06:26.000 Over the course of a whole day on MSNBC, only nine seconds were devoted to the word cease when there are wars everywhere.

01:06:33.000 I mean, how many times did they say, take your vaccine?

01:06:36.000 Well...

01:06:36.000 the rest of it. As we continually discuss on our channel, the legacy media present and amplify

01:06:41.000 narratives that are favorable to the agenda of the establishment. They did that during COVID,

01:06:44.000 take your vaccine, sit down, shut up, stay locked indoors. 0.84

01:06:47.000 They did it with Ukraine, Russia. This is a necessary war. Putin's crazy. NATO did not provoke 0.99

01:06:51.000 Putin and it appears that that's happening again. Now, whether or not you are ideologically affected,

01:06:56.000 I again say to you, I'm not trying to intervene with your emotional processes and your allegiance

01:07:01.000 if they are heartfelt, familial, and But what seems to be difficult to query is that their legacy media have taken a view here.

01:07:07.000 Could that be because, as in other cases, it's connected to profit?

01:07:12.000 Let's get into that.

01:07:13.000 As tensions escalate between Israel and the Hamas group, it's been revealed U.S.

01:07:16.000 congressional leaders have been making some strategic investment moves into military-related stocks.

01:07:21.000 Since the October 7 attack by Hamas on Israel, shares of Boeing Co, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman and Raytheon Technologies have all increased in value, collectively adding roughly $23 billion in market capitalisation.

01:07:32.000 Why are we focusing on how many children have died when business is booming?

01:07:36.000 Unusual Wales revealed a list of over 50 politicians who currently hold stock positions that directly benefit from war in the Middle East.

01:07:41.000 Four US politicians have profited from purchases they made in shares of defence companies just ahead of the Israel-Hamas conflict.

01:07:48.000 Well, Elon talked about predictions.

01:07:50.000 There's some predictions that paid off.

01:07:51.000 So, the legacy media have got a preferred narrative.

01:07:54.000 The military-industrial complex have got a preferred outcome.

01:07:57.000 What is likely to happen if this war continues to escalate?

01:08:00.000 We've heard Elon Musk say, World War 3 is a possibility.

01:08:03.000 Let me know in the chat and the comments if you agree that that's a possibility.

01:08:06.000 Also, though, there's the official information from the Israeli intelligence ministry that says that part of their intention is to clear the Gaza region.

01:08:14.000 This seems like an extraordinary move. Let me know what you think about that

01:08:18.000 in the chat. And however you look at it, it's going to cause an extraordinary migrant crisis.

01:08:22.000 Now, a migrant crisis means that those people will be displaced, whether that's to Sinai

01:08:27.000 or wherever, I don't know at this stage, but they're going to have to go somewhere.

01:08:30.000 Now, even if your interests are nationalist, the increase of migrants, you know, in the

01:08:34.000 US through the southern border, in the UK, from various ways across the channel and across

01:08:39.000 European countries, a migrant crisis means people are going to have to go somewhere. Not to 0.99

01:08:44.000 mention that many of these people might be bearing certain grievances as a result of the manner in

01:08:49.000 which their migration was brought about. It's difficult not to regard them as 1.00

01:08:52.000 refugees if indeed they are moved on as part of a deliberate and explicit edict. Let me know

01:08:57.000 what you think in the chat.

01:08:58.000 The Israeli Ministry of Intelligence is recommending the forcible and permanent transfer of the Gaza Strip's 2.2 million Palestinian residents to Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, according to an official document.

01:09:09.000 The 10-page document, dated October 13, 2023, bears the logo of the Intelligence Ministry, a small governmental body that produces policy research and shares its proposals with intelligence agencies, the army, and other ministries.

01:09:20.000 It assesses three options regarding the future of the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip in the framework of the current war and recommends a full population transfer as its preferred course of action.

01:09:29.000 It also calls on Israel to enlist the international community in support of this endeavour.

01:09:34.000 It seems like something, again, that ought to be considered pretty carefully and it also seems like an unprecedented and extraordinary move that's likely to lead to some negative consequences.

01:09:44.000 The fact that an Israeli government ministry has prepared such a detailed proposal amid a large-scale military offensive on the Gaza Strip following Hamas' deadly assault and massacres in southern Israel communities on October 7th reflects how the idea of forced population transfer is being raised to the level of official policy discussions.

01:10:00.000 I can of course imagine that if you were affected by those horrific attacks, that any solution would seem plausible.

01:10:08.000 Any solution. 0.89

01:10:09.000 Destroy, destroy, destroy. 0.99

01:10:10.000 I presume I would feel similar feelings if my children were murdered, God forbid.

01:10:15.000 But isn't the role of diplomacy, isn't the role of media, To openly discuss the possible outcomes and indeed the already abhorrent crisis that's taking place in Gaza as a result of the response.

01:10:28.000 Isn't that the responsibility of people that aren't personally affected?

01:10:30.000 I think a kind of a line has to be drawn as one might draw around a grieving person in the instances of people from across the spectrum of this conflict who are temporarily so affected by the emotion, the deep emotion and trauma, that perhaps they are unable to consider The various potential consequences of ongoing military and violent conflict.

01:10:49.000 Fears of such plans, which would constitute a serious war crime under international law, it's worth considering, have grown in recent weeks, especially after the Israeli army ordered about one million Palestinians to evacuate the northern Gaza Strip ahead of escalating bombardment and incremental ground incursions.

01:11:04.000 The document recommends that Israel act to evacuate the civilian population to Sinai during the war, establish tent cities and later more permanent cities in the northern Sinai that will absorb the expelled population and then create a sterile zone of several kilometers within Egypt and prevent the return of the population to activities, residences near the border with Israel.

01:11:23.000 At the same time, governments around the world led by the United States must be mobilized to implement the move.

01:11:28.000 The document unequivocally and explicitly recommends transferring Palestinian civilians from Gaza as a desired outcome of the war.

01:11:35.000 Well, as the article says, that would constitute a war crime.

01:11:38.000 And I suppose in any sensible mentality, all war and all violence is obviously already a crime.

01:11:44.000 And I suppose we should be collectively looking at solutions beyond that.

01:11:48.000 This is an article by Dennis Kucinich, who offers some alternative perspectives that indeed provide us with some optimism without being disrespectful to people that are directly affected by this conflict.

01:11:57.000 War reduces all nothingness.

01:11:59.000 It is as if 10,000 Palestinians and more had never existed.

01:12:03.000 But they did, just as the 1,400 Israelis killed on October the 7th existed. 0.75

01:12:07.000 They had birthdates, names, fragile exchanges of human emotion, of love, of family, private moments in everyday life that confirmed their existence.

01:12:15.000 Obliterated.

01:12:16.000 Nothingness.

01:12:17.000 Whatever media we consume, we see only a fraction of the massive display of inhumanity occurring in Gaza, the reduction of living, breathing, feeling people to objects.

01:12:25.000 This is heartless, this is soulless, this reduces all of existence to the nothingness of smoke, human smoke. 0.89

01:12:30.000 The violence is calculated, it's rooted in power politics, in racism, in apartheid, in twisted history, opportunism disguised as vengeance, statecraft, as slaughter.

01:12:39.000 We in America are paying for the extermination of our fellow humans.

01:12:42.000 Our weapons are creating carnage against helpless people.

01:12:44.000 Our aircraft, our ships, our troops have entered the fray greatly outnumbered.

01:12:48.000 But we are not helpless.

01:12:49.000 We must demand now that our government takes a new direction.

01:12:51.000 And soon, not only for ceasefire, but a ceasing of war.

01:12:55.000 The end of arms sales to fuel war.

01:12:57.000 The end of 800 military bases around the world.

01:12:59.000 The end of the theft of our tax dollars for killing.

01:13:01.000 The end of policies that pit people against each other.

01:13:03.000 The end of the destructive psychology justifying violence to maintain strategic balance.

01:13:07.000 The end of the false justifications for sending our troops into harm's way.

01:13:12.000 If that Perspective is one that you don't want to consider.

01:13:15.000 Then you're on the same side as Barack Obama, George W. Bush, Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, John Fetterman, etc.

01:13:22.000 If we can recognize together that the American economy appears to require the perpetuation of global violence, if, as we've been saying on this channel with regard to other conflicts, there is a kind of unipolar globalist agenda within which the military-industrial complex and the American military conspire, then You have to consider the broader proposal here.

01:13:43.000 Would it be beneficial to end this war? 0.95

01:13:45.000 Would it be beneficial to not have institutionalised violence as part of an economic model?

01:13:51.000 It is unfathomable beyond the Orwellian to commit ethnic cleansing and call it defence, to preach democratic values while practising apartheid, to claim wholesale theft of property and right, to take Palestinians, their homes, kill their children, destroy their family, their culture, their history, and deem it the fulfilment of a prophecy ordained by God.

01:14:07.000 That this genocide is being visited upon the Palestinians by the descendants of those who suffered the utterly contemptible, indelible inhumanity of the Holocaust is incomprehensible.

01:14:16.000 After all, who has suffered more than the Jews during the Holocaust?

01:14:18.000 Entire families wiped out in a racist elimination plan.

01:14:21.000 The awful killings of innocent Israelis on October the 7th and the wave of anti-Jewish sentiment that followed are a powerful reminder of the vulnerability of Jews everywhere.

01:14:29.000 But the destruction of Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank brings back greater risks for the survival of Israel itself and all those who dwell within. 0.73

01:14:35.000 Do not assume that it is only the artefacts of the humble daily lives of Palestinians that lay buried in bomb craters.

01:14:41.000 The America that could be, our own hopes and dreams for a prosperous and secure nation, lie alongside the bodies of the men, women and children in those ruins.

01:14:48.000 Let us stand for the survival of both Jews and Arabs.

01:14:51.000 Otherwise, we are all participants in the massacres that have been and those that are yet to come.

01:14:56.000 The leaders of the world must assert common humanity and enact a cessation of this madness and create a new path, a new map, which is fair to all and establish a new peaceful coexistence that recognizes the inner equality of all.

01:15:08.000 We are called to take sides.

01:15:09.000 Let us take the side of peace.

01:15:11.000 Let us take the side of reconciliation.

01:15:12.000 Let us take the side of restoration.

01:15:14.000 Let us take the side of humanity.

01:15:16.000 Let us all speak out against this descent into madness, into nothingness.

01:15:19.000 And we Americans must demand that our government heal our own nation, serve our own people, and use our precious resources to improve the lives of all Americans.

01:15:28.000 Once again, with respect to those of you that are unable, due to grief and the ongoing tragedy, to look at this with some clarity, I believe that we, the rest of us, have to seriously consider where we're heading as a people.

01:15:40.000 What the likely outcome is.

01:15:41.000 Is it a coincidence that the media will not discuss a ceasefire?

01:15:44.000 Is it a coincidence that Raytheon and Lockheed Martin continue to profit?

01:15:47.000 Is it wise to facilitate the criminal removal of millions of people from their homeland?

01:15:53.000 And what are the likely consequences of that all around the world?

01:15:56.000 I believe, unless those of us that are able to do not demand peace in a loving way, with due grace and understanding for the people that are directly involved, we are heading towards World War 3.

01:16:05.000 I don't know how long we as a species can precipitate this kind of violence, this kind of hatred, this kind of tribalism, but what I do know is the media benefit from it.

01:16:15.000 George W. Bush thinks it's a good idea.

01:16:16.000 Joe Biden thinks it's a good idea.

01:16:18.000 Hillary Clinton thinks it's a good idea.

01:16:19.000 Barack Obama thinks it's a good idea.

01:16:21.000 Because one way or another, they benefit from these conflicts.

01:16:24.000 That's why the media can't speak to you openly about it.

01:16:27.000 That's why the kind of division between us is stoked continually.

01:16:30.000 That's why I believe that we have an individual and collective duty to find it within ourselves, to awaken the resources that might lead to peace and change.

01:16:39.000 If we are willing to be tribalised and encamped, then I do not see how we can proceed together. 1.00

01:16:45.000 Then who will benefit?

01:16:46.000 The establishment will benefit.

01:16:48.000 The media will benefit.

01:16:49.000 The people in Congress that own stocks and shares and invested more heavily in them on the eve of this war will benefit.

01:16:54.000 But I don't see who else will benefit.

01:16:56.000 Not if it indeed leads to World War 3.

01:16:59.000 And that is a serious consideration.

01:17:00.000 Well that's just what I think.

01:17:01.000 Why don't you let me know what you think in the chat and the comments.

01:17:04.000 Whether or not you are open to changing your perspective.

01:17:06.000 Whether you believe that peace should be an option for all of us.

01:17:09.000 Whether you believe that collectively we share something that is greater than what divides us.

01:17:13.000 Let us know all that and more in the comments, but more important than any of that, if you can, please stay free.

01:17:19.000 Many switching, switch on, switch off.

01:17:27.000 Many switching, switch on, switch off.

Stay Free - Russel Brand - November 10, 2023

Jimmy Dore & Russell Brand On 2024 Election, RFK Jr, GOP Debate & WAR!! - Stay Free #243

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