Stay Free - Russel Brand - Russell Brand & Dave Rubin On Middle East War, Big Pharma & Clinton! - Stay Free #245

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00:01:20.000 Hello there, you awakening wonders, you firewalkers, you peaceniks, you warlords, you people that plainly refuse to follow the prescribed narrative.

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00:01:33.000 You are determined, like me, to find a way to navigate this minefield of modern ideological life.

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00:01:45.000 He's supposed to be my emotional support dog, but is that emotional support that's being offered there or an emotional demand?

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00:01:53.000 Hello all of you in the Rumble chat.

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00:02:30.000 No!

00:02:30.000 No more!

00:02:32.000 What's wrong with people?

00:02:33.000 What is actually going on?

00:02:35.000 We love him says Synchronicity in the Awaken Wonder chat.

00:02:38.000 Listen, I might be being tyrannised by a German Shepherd like it's the mad days of when fascism came in red, white and black and you knew what it was because they were wearing boots but As you know, tyranny looks different these days. 0.99

00:02:52.000 It's been banalised.

00:02:53.000 It's been bureaucratised.

00:02:55.000 You don't know how tyranny will come for you these days.

00:02:59.000 But what we do know is that the EU have passed legislation legitimising digital IDs and CBDCs.

00:03:07.000 That means the EU is moving towards We've got Dave Rubin on the show later.

00:03:14.000 We're going to be talking about the Middle Eastern War.

00:03:20.000 We'll be talking about Big Pharma.

00:03:21.000 We'll be talking about Clinton.

00:03:23.000 We'll talk about all of the Clintons.

00:03:24.000 Hello, Stephen McGraw in the Rumble chat.

00:03:27.000 You happy about Dave coming on?

00:03:29.000 What do you want to see me talk about?

00:03:30.000 Do you want to see me ask Dave, if you want to see me talk about the Middle East, say yes.

00:03:35.000 If you want us to talk about, I don't know, centralised currencies, say no!

00:03:39.000 Say no!

00:03:39.000 Let's have a look in the Rumble chat.

00:03:42.000 Also, in this chat, we're going to be talking about, is Tucker Carlson kind of a new world leader now?

00:03:49.000 I don't mean that in a new world order way.

00:03:51.000 I'm saying his power migrated and become unusual.

00:03:54.000 Are essentially figures like Elon Musk, Joe Rogan, and yeah, Tucker Carlson, functioning

00:04:00.000 as sort of sovereigns.

00:04:02.000 I'm saying that because Tucker Carlson, right, you know, a couple of days ago he was at the

00:04:05.000 UFC with Dana White and Trump, wasn't he?

00:04:09.000 Did you guys see Bill Burr's wife there doing that? 0.67

00:04:12.000 He's one of my favourite comedians and I love the way that Bill Burr talks about his family life.

00:04:12.000 I love Bill Burr.

00:04:16.000 I think it's very, very beautiful.

00:04:18.000 I know a lot of you are outraged by that because a lot of you love Trump, right?

00:04:22.000 But now, Tucker Carlson, he's like a world leader.

00:04:25.000 He's just travelling the world talking about what is Tucker Carlson now?

00:04:28.000 We've got him coming here, by the way, just before Christmas and yeah, and perhaps, Russell, you look like you need more sleep.

00:04:35.000 See I've got three kids!

00:04:37.000 55 fight for right.

00:04:39.000 I've got three kids and I'm trying to participate in a movement that's bringing down the establishment.

00:04:43.000 That's why I'm interested in the emergence of a figure like Tucker Carlson as a kind of new... What is he?

00:04:49.000 Because he's in Spain now talking about a weird move that's happening politically in Spain where odd alliances are being formed as a result of an inability to form a majority in Spanish parliament where They're giving that Catalan independence party, and I love Barcelona and I love the Catalonian people, but there's some weird stuff going on in Spain.

00:05:09.000 Anyway, Tucker has got a real role now.

00:05:12.000 What's the next generation of power going to look like?

00:05:15.000 Is it going to be figures like Elon Musk?

00:05:17.000 Is it going to go beyond the economic?

00:05:18.000 Or are we going to see the continued rise of independent media figures?

00:05:22.000 Look at Vivek.

00:05:23.000 Would Vivek be making the waves that he's been making if it were not for independent media?

00:05:27.000 Look at Bobby Kennedy, and I know a lot of you, you know, a bit peeved about some of the stuff he said about war, right?

00:05:32.000 And, you know, hopefully we'll get the opportunity to talk to him directly about that again soon.

00:05:36.000 And would you have figures like Tucker Carlson if independent media was not providing a different type of conversation, a different type of dynamic?

00:05:45.000 But let me tell you who the establishment want as one of your next presidents.

00:05:52.000 It's this guy.

00:05:53.000 If you're living in the state of California, let me know in the chat if you're watching this from California.

00:05:57.000 Gavin Newsom, he's being groomed as a potential future president, right?

00:06:01.000 Is that true?

00:06:02.000 Is that true?

00:06:02.000 Do you guys believe that?

00:06:04.000 And he says, let me know in the chat if you say, Gavin Newsom, future president, yes or no?

00:06:08.000 What do you think?

00:06:09.000 And they're clearing up San Francisco in anticipation of President Xi of China's visit, right?

00:06:17.000 You already saw what we posted the other day.

00:06:19.000 Loads of people were posting it, that, you know, that before and after they cleansed homelessness from the streets.

00:06:24.000 But remember, Like this guy's meant to be one of your sort of woke liberal politicians but look how he talks here about his decision to cleanse San Francisco of homelessness prior to this visit.

00:06:38.000 It's extraordinary.

00:06:39.000 You don't hear any of the compassion that you would associate with that kind of political

00:06:45.000 mindset. In the same way, now that we know that Ukraine did blow up the Nord Stream pipeline,

00:06:50.000 they blew that up like we said ages ago, and we do a brilliant bit of content on that later this

00:06:54.000 week, then like that's an environmental disaster right? No one's talking about that aspect of it,

00:06:59.000 the ecological impact of blowing up the Nord Stream pipeline that was plainly blown up by Ukraine 0.98

00:07:04.000 with the assistance of American military, I would assume because of the expertise, because of the

00:07:09.000 training they're providing.

00:07:10.000 Anyway, we're going to get into more detail about that.

00:07:11.000 What I'm fundamentally asking you is, do you think that these figures like Gavin Newsom and those kind of haircut politicians that the neoliberal left are always pushing for?

00:07:21.000 You know, like the, our one is Rishi Sunak, there's Trudeau, all of that kind of stuff.

00:07:27.000 Do they really care about the stuff they say they do?

00:07:28.000 Yes or no?

00:07:29.000 Does Gavin Newsom care about homelessness?

00:07:31.000 Watch him talking about cleansing San Francisco's streets like Travis Bickle and ask yourself, does this dude care about homelessness or does he care about the artifice of care?

00:07:43.000 He talks about tidying up San Francisco like you're waiting for your in-laws to come over.

00:07:47.000 It's really, really weird.

00:07:49.000 And also you can see in his eyes, he's thinking, I'm going to be president one day.

00:07:53.000 Is he going to be your president one day, America?

00:07:55.000 I know folks say, oh, they're just cleaning up this place because all those fancy leaders are coming into town.

00:08:00.000 Um, that's true.

00:08:01.000 Oh! 0.60

00:08:04.000 Because it's true.

00:08:06.000 It's true because it's true.

00:08:07.000 Well, that's a circular argument.

00:08:09.000 But it's also true, for months and months and months prior to APEC, we've been having different conversations.

00:08:15.000 Anytime you put on an event, by definition, you know, you have people over your house, you're going to clean up the house.

00:08:22.000 You have 21 world leaders, you've got tens of thousands of people coming from all around the globe.

00:08:27.000 What an opportunity to showcase the world's most... Yeah, but you don't clean up, like, homeless people from your house.

00:08:34.000 Oh my god!

00:08:34.000 The in-laws and my boss is coming over!

00:08:37.000 Sweep up those homeless people that were sleeping in the yard!

00:08:37.000 Quick!

00:08:41.000 Although I do sometimes want the children out of the way before people come over.

00:08:45.000 Maybe it's like that.

00:08:46.000 Maybe he sees homeless people as children that have got to be cleansed from the street.

00:08:50.000 You would imagine, like, imagine a few years ago if you'd heard, like, oh there was a state visit from the American president to Beijing and China.

00:08:58.000 Look at how And China cleansed the streets of all homelessness because to them it's more important to create the impression of cleanliness than cleanliness itself because they live in a propagandist state.

00:09:10.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:09:11.000 That's what I was saying at the beginning of the show.

00:09:12.000 Banalized tyranny.

00:09:14.000 Tyranny don't look like how we imagine it based on the models of the last century, no.

00:09:19.000 It looks like slicked back haircut politician called Trudeau acting all friendly bringing a Nazi into Parliament.

00:09:26.000 It's extraordinary.

00:09:30.000 Yeah, there's the before and after.

00:09:31.000 Look at that.

00:09:32.000 So, you know, there it is.

00:09:33.000 Where are those homeless folk now?

00:09:34.000 How many of those homeless people have served in the American military?

00:09:37.000 How many of them have mental health issues?

00:09:39.000 How many of them have been betrayed by a nation that used them to facilitate, I would say, ultimately an economic globalist unipolar agenda, saying it was patriotism because that was convenient then.

00:09:50.000 Then did away with them when it was convenient.

00:09:52.000 And if Xi is like, you know, by the way, this is for, like, when else, when you hear about Xi, generally speaking, it's not like, Xi's coming to town.

00:10:01.000 Let's get rid of the homeless. 1.00

00:10:03.000 China's supposed to be a threat to global democracy now. 0.98

00:10:07.000 Don't we hear that all the time?

00:10:08.000 And we are suddenly decided we care a great deal about Taiwan because of semiconductors we care about. 1.00

00:10:16.000 And China, by the way, those bastards. 1.00

00:10:19.000 Well, Like, why are we tidying up then? 1.00

00:10:22.000 Why are we even having him over if he's such a bad dictator?

00:10:25.000 Look at how Trump is here criticized on MSNBC because he bears, according to this legacy media outlet, what do I want to say?

00:10:35.000 He bears comparing to those kind of dictators, but like, no one's mentioning, by the way, Xi's on his own, on his way to San Francisco right now, and we're sweeping up homeless people like they're crisp packets and curlicans.

00:10:48.000 His admiration, his deep admiration, his ongoing admiration for the world's authoritarian thugs, his admiration for Chairman Mao, his admiration for President Xi and Vladimir Putin, his intent to turn the government into a weapon of revenge and retribution.

00:11:05.000 I mean, this is one of those moments where we have to distinguish between the white noise and the blinking red flares that are going up every time this man speaks.

00:11:16.000 Their propaganda, as I said to you, the neoliberal propaganda, it's always sort of pseudo-intellectual metropolitan, you know?

00:11:24.000 You see that?

00:11:26.000 Is that, have we got more, have we got the Rachel, is this where Rachel Maddow says it?

00:11:29.000 Now look at this little version of a propagandist rant.

00:11:33.000 And again, it's not that long ago.

00:11:35.000 We've got it.

00:11:36.000 We're talking about it later in the week.

00:11:37.000 A lot longer ago that we were given such definitive information around certain medications and courses of action.

00:11:44.000 It's never been retracted.

00:11:45.000 It's never been apologized for.

00:11:46.000 It's never been addressed.

00:11:48.000 Even if, in that anti-Trump rant then, they'd said, but also obviously, you know, the Biden family got some pretty dodgy business dealings and you have to acknowledge that promises were made When campaigning that have just simply not been delivered on, for example, making Saudi Arabia a pariah.

00:12:06.000 So it's increasingly difficult to condemn Trump for being a centralizing authoritarian, which is what we're doing because of the authoritarian moves of our friend here, currently in office.

00:12:18.000 You know, I'm paraphrasing what I would imagine they would say, but here's your friend and mine, Rachel Maddow, talking about Trump being, I think, maybe like Hitler.

00:12:27.000 Tonight, here's the headline in the New York Times.

00:12:30.000 Quote, accused of echoing fascists, Trump campaign warns its critics will be, quote, crushed.

00:12:37.000 The subhead says, quote, the former president likened political opponents to vermin, similar to the dehumanizing rhetoric wielded by dictators like Hitler and Mussolini.

00:12:49.000 The Washington Post headline just got there more directly.

00:12:52.000 Headline, Trump calls political enemies vermin, echoing dictators Hitler and Mussolini. 0.93

00:12:57.000 The quote from Trump was this, he said, quote, we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country, lie, steal, and cheat on elections and will do anything possible, whether legally or illegally, to destroy America and the American dream. 0.87

00:13:15.000 The threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous, and grave than the threat from within. 0.52

00:13:22.000 And this is not subtle, right?

00:13:25.000 Have you ever seen when Hillary Clinton says that there are MAGA fascists and baskets of deplorables or when Joe Biden says we have to beware of MAGA extremism and it's the biggest threat to our democracy?

00:13:38.000 And haven't we just seen Rachel Maddow saying that like what Trump's gonna do if he gets into office is behave like a dictator?

00:13:44.000 It's really Extraordinary set of double standards.

00:13:47.000 Where do you get a proper discourse, proper analysis, where the guiding principles and coordinates are actual principles, not the agenda?

00:13:56.000 It's okay for us to cleanse San Francisco of homelessness in order to prepare for a visit from President Xi, who elsewhere we condemn Trump for admiring or being liked.

00:14:08.000 You see, there is not a consistent narrative because consistent narratives require principles.

00:14:14.000 There is a total lack of principle.

00:14:15.000 I mean, everybody knows what this means. 0.98

00:14:18.000 If you know one thing about mass-murdering dictators in history, it's that they refer to the people they want to mass-murder as vermin, pests, rats, and deplorables.

00:14:27.000 You know, like, in a way, using language that reduces the validity, humanity, or personhood of any other group seems to be something that this party is completely, or this sort of neoliberal set of interests, is completely willing to do.

00:14:43.000 In a minute we're going to be talking about Tucker Carlson.

00:14:45.000 Is he like a king now?

00:14:46.000 Do you think so?

00:14:47.000 Like that Tucker Carlson is transcendent of ordinary politics?

00:14:50.000 Is he a kingmaker?

00:14:52.000 Are we in a new age of sovereigns where there are figures like Joe Rogan or Tucker or Elon Musk?

00:14:58.000 They have a power that's transcendent of politics.

00:15:01.000 Let me know.

00:15:03.000 And is this emerged because legacy media spaces simply amplify the voices that they support within the institutions of government, which most of us now recognize as being corrupt?

00:15:14.000 Remember when we had Greenwald on the show and he said, most people just hate the establishment.

00:15:19.000 Most people hate the legacy media.

00:15:21.000 Like when we ask sort of questions on here, like, do you think we should support foreign wars

00:15:25.000 or would you rather that your taxpayer dollars were spent on creating better infrastructure

00:15:30.000 within American cities?

00:15:32.000 It's just landslides.

00:15:34.000 And you think, well why are these things never asked publicly?

00:15:37.000 Why are these things never subject to referenda?

00:15:40.000 And the answer is because they know what would happen and that ain't the agenda. 0.90

00:15:45.000 Here's Hillary Clinton, like right after we've looked at Rachel Maddow sort of saying that like, you know, Trump saying his political opponents are like rats. 0.97

00:15:54.000 Check out this thing. 0.94

00:15:56.000 How did people get basically drawn in by Hitler?

00:16:01.000 How did that happen?

00:16:02.000 And I'd watch newsreels and I'd see this guy standing up there ranting and raving and people shouting and raising their arms.

00:16:10.000 I thought, what's happened to these people?

00:16:12.000 Why did they believe that?

00:16:14.000 You saw the rally in Ohio the other night.

00:16:17.000 Trump is there ranting and raving for more than an hour and you have these rows of young men with their arms raised.

00:16:26.000 Hmm.

00:16:27.000 Suspicious.

00:16:28.000 Something's going on.

00:16:29.000 And what about when she said that people like Trump need to be debugged and reprogrammed?

00:16:34.000 Do you remember that?

00:16:35.000 At some point, you know, maybe there needs to be a formal deprogramming of the cult members.

00:16:41.000 Interesting and peculiar.

00:16:42.000 What we have to have is some values and principles that will put us in good stead and help us to transcend this current corrupt and hypocritical space.

00:16:51.000 Now, One person who's taken a very peculiar stance on escalating tensions in the Middle East, and this is a divisive issue that's come along at a very interesting time.

00:17:01.000 It's a tragedy.

00:17:02.000 It's awful.

00:17:03.000 My position on violence and war is, I don't know, pretty clear, I think.

00:17:07.000 Please find diplomatic solutions wherever possible.

00:17:09.000 Please end violence wherever possible.

00:17:12.000 Please don't fund and support ongoing violence.

00:17:16.000 John Bolton, though, He's perspective on escalating tensions with Iran, which Biden is clearly participating in, is causing John Bolton, that dear Colonel Sanders, that guess who card come to life, John Bolton, to be agitated because he's not got a high enough bounty on his head.

00:17:35.000 What a delightful guy.

00:17:36.000 Iran reportedly offered a hitman a million dollars to kill former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and John Bolton.

00:17:45.000 They bargained the price for me would be $300,000, which I have to say I found insulting.

00:17:51.000 I think I'm worth a lot more than that. 0.95

00:17:53.000 You're gonna kill me for... He's just a, like, a tack-on.

00:17:56.000 Okay, for a million quid, we'll do Mark Pompeo.

00:17:58.000 And we'll get you John Bolton.

00:17:59.000 We'll frame him for nothing.

00:18:01.000 We won't even use an additional bullet.

00:18:03.000 John, could you just stand behind Mike?

00:18:05.000 Why?

00:18:06.000 I'm sick of standing behind him!

00:18:07.000 I'm better than him! 1.00

00:18:08.000 I've advocated for every goddamn war there is! 0.99

00:18:12.000 What's up with the baphomet hand gesture behind Russell? 1.00

00:18:12.000 Absurd beast. 1.00

00:18:16.000 Oh, God, everybody.

00:18:17.000 You got too...

00:18:17.000 You worry too much.

00:18:19.000 Get a hobby!

00:18:20.000 So that's what's up with it.

00:18:21.000 What do you want it to do?

00:18:22.000 That?

00:18:23.000 Is that better? 0.68

00:18:23.000 Does that mean something now, you soppy sausage? 0.68

00:18:26.000 Hey, love you Russes, these DM30.

00:18:29.000 It's nice to see you guys.

00:18:31.000 I love you lot.

00:18:32.000 I absolutely love you.

00:18:33.000 Now, have we become so sick of political advocates and pundits like John Bolton there and figures like Rachel Maddow and Hillary Clinton and all these kind of sort of centralist establishment figures that there are now emerging new voices kind of wandering kings like Tucker Carlson who can be a UFC

00:18:55.000 Just one minute as a potential VP to Trump, next minute turning up to address the complexities of Spanish democracy, which appears to be a pretty fractured process currently, is extraordinary.

00:19:07.000 What is Tucker's role in the world?

00:19:09.000 It's very interesting.

00:19:11.000 Independent media is becoming independent politics.

00:19:14.000 Have a look at Tucker over in Spain.

00:19:15.000 You've been with Donald Trump the last days, now you're here in Spain meeting Spanish leaders.

00:19:21.000 How is the world seeing these weird events that is happening in Spain, this violation to our democracy?

00:19:29.000 Well the world isn't seeing it enough and that's why we wanted to come, because it's not getting the coverage it deserves.

00:19:35.000 I mean, anybody who would violate your constitution, potentially use physical violence, To end democracy is a tyrant, is a dictator.

00:19:46.000 And this is happening in the middle of Europe.

00:19:47.000 So we thought it deserved more coverage than it's getting.

00:19:50.000 But is the world actually seeing how important is what is happening here?

00:19:55.000 No.

00:19:56.000 No, the world is not seeing how important it is.

00:19:59.000 But we hope to change that.

00:20:00.000 And do you think Tucker Carlson can change the trajectory of Spanish democracy?

00:20:00.000 Wow.

00:20:04.000 Say yes if you believe that he can change the global perspective and no if you don't think that's possible.

00:20:11.000 Tucker Carlson now, who as I say, he's coming on our show in the warm-up for Christmas.

00:20:16.000 The warm-up.

00:20:17.000 Yeah, get ready for Christmas.

00:20:18.000 He has a role that's pretty rare.

00:20:21.000 I think this is what happens when there's a total lack of integrity and authenticity in media spaces.

00:20:26.000 When you get the idea that people like Jen Psaki moved from being White House spokespeople to MSNBC figures, you start to doubt these voices.

00:20:34.000 When you see mainstream and legacy media pundits advocating for measures that you know aren't going to be good for you simply because it's amplifying and normalising the agenda of the powerful, people like Tucker Carlson who are willing to make complex points about war will rise up.

00:20:49.000 Because I'll tell you what I need, and tell me if you agree with this, yeah all of you say it's changed your opinion on Spain, it could introduce more information.

00:20:56.000 I feel like We need authority.

00:20:58.000 Not authority, that's not what I meant.

00:21:00.000 Authenticity and integrity more than ever before.

00:21:04.000 That's what online independent media grants us more.

00:21:09.000 That's the best aspect, I would say, of social media.

00:21:11.000 The ability to communicate, The ability for a wide variety of voices and views to be heard, but that is getting continually shut down.

00:21:19.000 We live in an age where there is a sort of predetermined, preordained, preselected political class.

00:21:26.000 People that have been through the WF, like Rishi Sunak, our current Prime Minister.

00:21:30.000 Like Justin Trudeau, Canada's Prime Minister.

00:21:32.000 You see these figures cropping up at globalist events continually, and people scoff.

00:21:37.000 I don't like the idea that there is some kind of conspiracy, but it is extraordinary.

00:21:41.000 What I mean by conspiracy is there are a convergence of interests around global corporate power and interests of dominion that cannot be accessed by democracy.

00:21:50.000 That's what I mean, and that there are a bunch of agencies, NGOs, groups like the Clinton Foundation, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, groups like the WHO that are able to exert power over your country and mine that's far beyond anything you could do.

00:22:04.000 What you meant to do Get a little ticket like Charlie Bucket and vote for an Oompa Loompa.

00:22:09.000 Good luck!

00:22:11.000 You've got no chance of impacting the trajectory of your nation.

00:22:14.000 But David Cameron, he was our Prime Minister for a little while, and now he's back.

00:22:19.000 He's back.

00:22:20.000 And in an interview he says something that's really extraordinary.

00:22:23.000 Listen to this carefully.

00:22:24.000 He talks about another former British Prime Minister and kind of globalist pal, Tony Blair.

00:22:28.000 You won't believe what they just say in public.

00:22:30.000 And just to show you the Depth and breadth of my ability, I'll use the old wooden finger to do this.

00:22:36.000 No, oh no, it's actually quite hard.

00:22:37.000 I'm going to have to use an actual digit made by the Almighty. 0.93

00:22:40.000 I mean, I remember when David Cameron stood about there, do you remember, in 2016?

00:22:44.000 Yeah, we're about a metre away from it now.

00:22:47.000 And said, well, I'm quitting as Prime Minister.

00:22:49.000 I remember on the day, he said, oh, I'm going to carry on as MP for Whitney.

00:22:52.000 And then a few weeks later, he quit as MP for Whitney.

00:22:56.000 I'm told because the Camerons had dinner with the Blairs, and Tony Blair said, don't stay in Parliament.

00:23:01.000 You have to declare all your earnings.

00:23:02.000 Wow, that's blatant.

00:23:03.000 Firstly, Tony Blair was Prime Minister for one party.

00:23:07.000 Cameron was Prime Minister for the opposing party.

00:23:09.000 They're having dinner together and they're saying, don't stay in Parliament.

00:23:13.000 That's our equivalent of Congress.

00:23:15.000 You'll have to declare your earnings.

00:23:16.000 Tell me yes or no.

00:23:17.000 Does that chime with your perspective of the political class that they only serve in office so that they'll get corporate opportunity afterwards?

00:23:24.000 So there's a revolving door between Congress or Parliament or whatever and the corporate world.

00:23:30.000 That whether it's Obama or George W. Bush, they're funded ultimately by the military-industrial complex and Wall Street and the financial sector.

00:23:37.000 Say yes if you agree with that.

00:23:38.000 Say no if you think I've been at the drowsy drugs again.

00:23:42.000 If you want to become an Awake and Wonder, all you gotta do is press the red button, join us in our locals community, get early access to interviews like the one we had with Alex Jones, where I talked to him like a modern-day shaman.

00:23:52.000 Like a sort of like Alex Jones lives on the Edgelands.

00:23:55.000 That's what I would say about Alex Jones.

00:23:57.000 He's got access to interesting information and sometimes he says some crazy things, but think about the number of times Alex Jones has been right.

00:24:03.000 You'll see that conversation on Thursday or Friday.

00:24:06.000 Unless you become an Awake and Wonder right now, press the red button, you can get access to all of our content earlier.

00:24:10.000 We've got Dave Rubin coming on the show a little better.

00:24:14.000 And remember, look at now how this Conflagration in the Middle East and its subsequent escalation of concurrent and concomitant or adjacent conflicts is dividing even the consensus that was starting to form in the independent anarcho-libertarian online spaces.

00:24:31.000 Even this is fracturing now.

00:24:33.000 Extraordinary, fascinating and interesting.

00:24:36.000 And I believe we need unity Decentralised, unified fronts, where people with different cultural and political views are willing to form new alliances in order to confront centralised, globalist interests.

00:24:49.000 What do I mean by that?

00:24:50.000 Well, I mean, for example, that the EU has found a way to introduce digital IDs.

00:24:57.000 They found a way to do it, and they're soon going to be introducing CBDC, centralized currencies that will be able to be shut down at a moment's notice.

00:25:06.000 Now, if you're watching us on YouTube, we're going to leave now, so there's a link in the description.

00:25:11.000 Just go down to that little link, sneak over to Rumble, where I can speak more freely.

00:25:16.000 Join us there, where we can ask interesting, intelligent questions.

00:25:20.000 If you've got a question for Dave Rubin, post it I'm very interested in this move towards centralization and authoritarianism.

00:25:33.000 We've investigated it in some depth here.

00:25:36.000 Stay with us if you want to ask a question of dear Dave Rubin, our friend, and enjoy this.

00:25:44.000 European Parliament has reached a provisional agreement on the establishment of a European digital ID.

00:25:49.000 Remember how much they were talking about that in the pandemic?

00:25:51.000 They're pushing it now.

00:25:52.000 Hundreds of privacy and cyber security experts across the world have strongly warned about the pitfalls of this legislation.

00:26:00.000 Why?

00:26:01.000 Because it's gonna mean invasion into our privacy.

00:26:03.000 Did Edward Snowden die in vain?

00:26:05.000 He didn't die, he's in Russia.

00:26:06.000 Yeah, but you know, it can't be much fun.

00:26:08.000 It snows the whole time!

00:26:10.000 And guess what?

00:26:11.000 You know, we've just been talking about Alex Jones.

00:26:13.000 Is there even plans afoot to put little grain of rice style microchips under our skin? 0.99

00:26:20.000 One former WEF insider turned whistleblower says But that's exactly where things are heading.

00:26:27.000 Stay with us for Dave Rubin.

00:26:29.000 Meanwhile, here's the news.

00:26:30.000 9. Here's the effing news.

00:26:32.000 Here's the news. 1.00

00:26:35.000 No, here's the fucking news. 0.98

00:26:37.000 The European Parliament have a provisional agreement to introduce a continent wide digital ID 0.99

00:26:44.000 which will definitely invade your privacy and your cyber security.

00:26:48.000 But at least there's no secret plan to insert microchips under our skin, like conspiracy theorists warned years ago.

00:26:56.000 Oh no!

00:26:59.000 We talk a lot about advanced ideas that seem sometimes to be implausible and ridiculous, but after the pandemic period many of us have become more open to the notion that there might be plans to introduce regulatory measures that seem like they're more from science fiction than political fact.

00:27:16.000 But the European Parliament have just established in principle the introduction of a Europe-wide digital ID.

00:27:22.000 This will be connected to CBDCs.

00:27:24.000 That means digital currencies.

00:27:26.000 Remember when digital currencies were bad?

00:27:27.000 When they were Bitcoin?

00:27:28.000 When they were offline and difficult to control and a bit off-grid?

00:27:31.000 They're bad!

00:27:32.000 They're bad for the environment!

00:27:33.000 Someone's gonna hurt theirself!

00:27:34.000 You could have someone's eye out with that digital currency!

00:27:37.000 that they're organizing themselves from the United States to across Europe, suddenly they're okay.

00:27:37.000 Well now...

00:27:43.000 But more worrying than any of that is the introduction of measures to be able to observe us,

00:27:47.000 control us, shut us down, and even something like universal credit, which I've heard people

00:27:51.000 talk positively about, could be used as a measure to impose more control. But to get us into this

00:27:55.000 subject, let's have a look at Dutch MEP Rob Roos, who you may remember from when he confronted a

00:28:01.000 Pfizer employee about whether or not there'd been clinical trials around transmission,

00:28:05.000 and the results were interesting, but on YouTube I'll have to hold back what I reveal.

00:28:10.000 Here is Rob Roos.

00:28:11.000 He's just come out of a meeting.

00:28:12.000 He's all sort of like, It's too late, guys.

00:28:14.000 It's the end of the world now.

00:28:15.000 It's the Matrix, man.

00:28:16.000 I should have not left Morpheus in that chamber next to the lavatory.

00:28:21.000 I just left the room where we had the negotiations about the digital identity.

00:28:27.000 And I have bad news.

00:28:28.000 The Member States and the European Parliament came to an agreement.

00:28:34.000 That means that probably not far from now the digital identity will be a fact in the European Union.

00:28:41.000 Right after this agreement, Commissioner Breton said, now we have the digital identity wallet, we have to put something in it.

00:28:50.000 And what he meant was the digital euro, also known as the central bank digital currency.

00:28:58.000 And this is a very bad development.

00:29:00.000 One of the defining myths of our culture is progressivism.

00:29:04.000 Things are improving.

00:29:05.000 We used to be cavemen!

00:29:07.000 But look at us now!

00:29:08.000 We've got all of these devices!

00:29:09.000 Post-enlightenment, things have been improving more broadly.

00:29:12.000 Many of you might be thinking, sensing, feeling deep inside yourself that in conjunction with evident and obvious progress in technology and medicine, there's been a kind of a decline, a deterioration, something that's difficult to define and perhaps exists in the realm of the spirit.

00:29:26.000 You'll notice how these ideas were first of all spoken of as, you know, as with any potential scientific or technological project, I suppose, as pie-in-the-sky potentialities.

00:29:35.000 And now they're being introduced in quite a gentle way.

00:29:37.000 And in the pandemic we discussed, didn't we, the possibility of, like, vaccine passports.

00:29:41.000 That was discussed.

00:29:42.000 And I think because of independent media, many of these ideas received a lot of pushback and resistance.

00:29:47.000 What I would ask you to be observant of is the possibility that once these ideas are discussed, presented to you, and somewhat normalized by the media, you'll see a bunch of stuff normalizing it in the coming weeks and months, I imagine.

00:29:58.000 I predict, I can predict this now.

00:29:59.000 Let me know in the chat when you see it.

00:30:01.000 What will happen is, a situation will occur, and I'm not, this is not a conspiracy theory, I'm not saying that it'll be a false flag event, you know, whatever.

00:30:07.000 I'm just saying, because of the way things are, there will be a war.

00:30:10.000 there will be a pandemic there will be an event and during that event they're going to say obviously now we're going to have to use that digital id thing we've been discussing and we're going to have to advance that because it's not safe now remember how close we came in the pandemic to you know oh in order to go to concerts you're going to have to have had this medication Now you know that it didn't prevent transmission.

00:30:30.000 Now you know, like, there's so many things, you know, I'm not going to rehash all of that stuff now.

00:30:33.000 What I'm saying is, is that any measure that ultimately affords centralised authority a greater ability to control you, to control your movements, to control your transactions, to control your finances, is ultimately not going to be in your service.

00:30:46.000 That's why I think we live in such a polemicised and conflagratory time, a time of conflict, because most people in the back of their minds think, well, as long as these these measures are only applied to the people I don't like,

00:30:58.000 I'm kind of glad. Yeah, I don't mind if you cancel or silence

00:31:01.000 those, but I'm never like those people anyway. But once the

00:31:04.000 principle is established, it's difficult to predict how it might,

00:31:07.000 well it's not difficult to predict, I'm going to predict, it

00:31:08.000 will be deployed in order to centralise authority and shut down any

00:31:11.000 dissent towards the establishment.

00:31:12.000 They always promise us not to make this connection. And even a

00:31:18.000 lot of experts, privacy experts and security experts, want also

00:31:23.000 last week, this is a very bad idea for our privacy and our The warnings of privacy and cyber security experts is something we'll cover in more detail in a minute but you might notice that yourself you have a kind of lethargy, a kind of inability to confront it, you feel a bit worn out with all of the

00:31:44.000 Wars and diseases and this kind of atmosphere of our culture you might be like oh god just do it what can I do anyway?

00:31:51.000 You'll happily just accept that your role in a democracy is to choose one of these two basically the same political parties that are funded in the same way.

00:31:59.000 I suppose what I'm inviting you to look at is the possibility of confronting and resisting what seems inevitable but is plainly being pointed out as undesirable.

00:32:07.000 And still this digital identity is pushed through But it's not too late, because we still have to vote on this in the plenary.

00:32:19.000 So what you can do, send your MEP from your member state an email and tell him or tell her that you are against this tool.

00:32:31.000 Some detail.

00:32:32.000 The European Parliament and the majority of the member states reached a provisional agreement on the establishment of the European Digital ID or EID, the first central and fully digital identification system for all Europeans on Thursday.

00:32:45.000 Conservative lawmakers and cyber security experts are sounding the alarms, citing concerns for potential large-scale abuse.

00:32:52.000 We are taking a fundamental step so that citizens can have a unique and secure European digital identity, Nadia Calvino, the Spanish Minister for Economy and Digitalisation, representing the European Council's Spanish presidency, said.

00:33:05.000 When there are ongoing migrant crises, when there are feelings of broad antipathy towards migrants, a digital ID becomes appealing.

00:33:14.000 It will be one of the ways that a variety of people will be induced into accepting a continent-wide digital ID.

00:33:21.000 Oh, well, otherwise people that shouldn't even be here will be able to have access to.

00:33:26.000 They all knew it's going to be for safety.

00:33:28.000 They'll use every single trigger there is because of paedophiles.

00:33:31.000 Any imaginable, conceivable notion will be used to legitimize it and normalize it.

00:33:36.000 This process is beginning now.

00:33:38.000 Under the new law, the EU will offer citizens so-called digital wallets on a voluntary basis.

00:33:42.000 At first, at first, what a key phrase.

00:33:45.000 Why don't you have a digital wallet?

00:33:46.000 Is it voluntary?

00:33:47.000 Yes it is.

00:33:48.000 Now, where is your digital wallet?

00:33:50.000 Oh, I left it at home.

00:33:51.000 Well then you're going to jail!

00:33:53.000 Which will contain digital versions of their ID cards, driving licenses, diplomas, medical records and bank account information.

00:34:00.000 These documents will be recognised as means to access online services throughout Europe and citizens will be able to prove their identity or share electronic documents from their wallets with a click of a button, the legislators hope.

00:34:11.000 So safe, so convenient, so easy.

00:34:13.000 We've already been introduced to ideas, you know, using phones to pay for stuff, train tickets, using phones to make purchases.

00:34:19.000 And of course, convenience is, you know, a thing.

00:34:22.000 But what are you giving up in exchange for that convenience?

00:34:22.000 It's a factor.

00:34:27.000 Where could it go?

00:34:28.000 Remember, we've already had instances where people's bank accounts have been shut down, whether that's the Canadian truckers.

00:34:34.000 We've already had instances where people's movements are monitored and controlled.

00:34:39.000 Is that a capacity that you want to increase without due regulation and legislation?

00:34:43.000 Notice it's taking place as well in a broad climate of censure and legislation to prohibit free speech.

00:34:49.000 Notice that there's been a 180 on the efficacy and value of CBDCs that initially they were dismissed.

00:34:55.000 Now it's like, oh no, they are a good idea actually, thinking about it, because we could switch people off financially.

00:34:59.000 It's important to consider how these things might be used and whether or not they're going to be accompanied with legislation that meaningfully prevents them from being exploited.

00:35:08.000 Just look at the 702 bill that's being perpetuated in the USA now, which was introduced for counter-terrorism measures, that's never really gone away and is used essentially to spy on American citizens.

00:35:18.000 Critics, however, see the EID as a building block of a coming European digital surveillance state.

00:35:23.000 A way for the EU and any government to hold all of their citizens' personal information and track their every move.

00:35:30.000 That sort of thing already happens.

00:35:31.000 Do you remember when we were all like, God, yeah, security cameras are everywhere now?

00:35:34.000 Do you remember that?

00:35:35.000 There didn't used to be CCTV, but it's for your security, it's for your safety, it's normalised.

00:35:39.000 Now that's just the thing that we all live with.

00:35:41.000 Here's the next wave.

00:35:42.000 The agreement was reached just days after 504 privacy and cyber security experts from 39 countries signed a joint letter strongly warning about the pitfalls of the legislation as it fails to properly respect the right to privacy of citizens and secure online communications.

00:35:57.000 The researchers and academics concluded that instead of protecting personal data, the current text substantially increases the potential for harm, both by rogue actors and government abuse.

00:36:07.000 Curious that that potential would exist.

00:36:09.000 Naturally, the Commission does not plan to stop at EIDs.

00:36:12.000 Another major plan that's currently in the works is the Digital Euro, Europe's future central bank issued digital currency, CBDC, currently in early development phase by the European Central Bank.

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00:37:07.000 Critics who warn about total government control of citizens' personal finances through programmable money have long been saying that EIDs will be the first step toward an economy run on CBDCs.

00:37:18.000 Internal market commissioner Thierry Breton has now even confirmed this as one of the main goals of the new legislation.

00:37:25.000 Thierry Breton may have come to your attention with these weird bureaucratic gangster threats towards people like Elon Musk.

00:37:31.000 I'm giving Elon Musk 24 hours to obey.

00:37:33.000 He'll do as I say or he'll face Thierry Breton's consequences.

00:37:37.000 They will respect the law.

00:37:39.000 Looks like an old lady. 1.00

00:37:40.000 Talks like Don Corleone.

00:37:41.000 This is a post of Thierry Breton's.

00:37:43.000 We did it!

00:37:44.000 Hashtag deal handshakes.

00:37:46.000 With the European Digital Identity Wallet, all European citizens will be able to have a secured e-identity for their lifetime.

00:37:52.000 Cool!

00:37:52.000 Yeah!

00:37:53.000 Freedom!

00:37:54.000 The wallet has the highest level of security and privacy.

00:37:57.000 Cool, because yeah, security and privacy, that is where it'd be exploited.

00:38:00.000 I'm glad, Thierry, that you have pointed out that there's no room for that.

00:38:04.000 And of course, we can definitely trust people in positions of power like you.

00:38:08.000 Giant step and a world premiere round of applause to my teams and both co-legislators.

00:38:14.000 And if that tweet or ex-post hasn't made you excited enough about Thierry Breton's brilliant plan to observe your every

00:38:20.000 move and to be able to shut you down financially like that, here's a piece of promo content that's gonna make you want

00:38:26.000 to bow down and worship at the centralised ortho- You've got no choice, they can do what they want with you.

00:38:30.000 Convenience and security, also friendly.

00:38:39.000 It's like elevator music.

00:38:41.000 It's like we're just being carried by a machine to an inevitable destination where we will have more convenience and more security.

00:38:48.000 Is there any potential downside?

00:38:49.000 Is there any potential downside?

00:38:50.000 Not that I'm looking at or willing to declare publicly.

00:38:57.000 Tick, nice control of personal data. 0.68

00:39:00.000 You see how it's like starts, will be available to every EU citizen.

00:39:04.000 Will be mandatory for every EU citizen.

00:39:10.000 Yeah, secure throughout Europe!

00:39:11.000 Once that's operating in conjunction with the WHO's treaty in the event of another pandemic, and pandemics can include all sorts of things that go beyond what you might think is a pandemic, including stuff like climate change, I'm just citing from the documentation, that means they'll be able to censor online content, they'll be able to track you wherever you're going, can you sort of see where this is heading?

00:39:29.000 And see how people that sounded like mad prophetic conspiracy theorists, giddy shaming of a technological age just a few years ago, essentially were telling us plain truths in strange accents.

00:39:41.000 They can decide what data they want to store and share for now.

00:39:47.000 Don't matter if you're a builder, a fisherman or that lady doing her work. 1.00

00:39:51.000 It's for everybody.

00:39:55.000 Proof of your skills and qualifications.

00:39:57.000 Are you going to prove your skills?

00:39:58.000 Yeah, I can prove my skills on my digital wallet.

00:40:00.000 Are you going to prove your loyalty and obedience to the state?

00:40:03.000 Sorry, too late.

00:40:04.000 Prison!

00:40:08.000 Like, they're talking as if there's not been, like, massive problems with data hacking, data filing, huge swathes of data around the world being stored just so they've got it for when they need it.

00:40:19.000 It's all this just upbeat selling of total dystopia.

00:40:22.000 I'm convinced now that's what it looks like.

00:40:24.000 It doesn't look like military uniforms.

00:40:27.000 It doesn't sound like jackboots marching down a street no more. 0.98

00:40:30.000 What it's like is this.

00:40:33.000 It's all friendly.

00:40:33.000 Yeah, it's gonna be so convenient and safe.

00:40:35.000 Why am I in this cell again?

00:40:36.000 Convenient and safe?

00:40:40.000 It's gonna make life so much easier, because I find life quite hard, do you?

00:40:43.000 Yeah, why?

00:40:43.000 Because of this sort of stuff, actually!

00:40:45.000 Yeah, remembering past was a challenge!

00:40:52.000 It's so exhausting not having people spy on my private information.

00:40:59.000 It shouldn't say stay tuned, it should say whether you like it or not.

00:40:59.000 It's coming.

00:41:02.000 Because I don't remember voting for it, remember?

00:41:04.000 Well, you're funding it, but did you vote for it?

00:41:06.000 So, in conjunction with digital ID stroke digital wallets, we have this extraordinary announcement

00:41:18.000 from the president of the Federal Reserve of Minneapolis, whose name sounds a lot like

00:41:23.000 Let me have a look.

00:41:24.000 Neil Kashkari.

00:41:25.000 He says CBDCs don't actually solve any problems.

00:41:29.000 Oh, what?

00:41:29.000 Any?

00:41:30.000 Well, I suppose you could shut down the finances of people you didn't agree with.

00:41:34.000 That's one problem, Neil.

00:41:35.000 Yeah, but I happen to not be a fascist.

00:41:37.000 Central bank digital currency.

00:41:38.000 Do you think that that is something that you all should be looking at seriously?

00:41:42.000 To what degree should you be looking into it seriously?

00:41:45.000 Just what are your thoughts on CBDC?

00:41:48.000 I mean, as my colleagues at the Federal Reserve have talked about, we are examining it.

00:41:53.000 I'll tell you, my personal bias is I'm pretty skeptical.

00:41:56.000 I keep asking anybody, anybody at the Fed or outside of the Fed to explain to me what problem this is solving.

00:42:03.000 I can send anybody in this room $5 with Venmo right now.

00:42:07.000 Right?

00:42:07.000 No, seriously.

00:42:08.000 So what is it that a CBDC could do that Venmo can't do?

00:42:11.000 I know!

00:42:12.000 I know!

00:42:12.000 We can un-person people that are dissidents, and if anyone dissents against their interests, we can shut down their bank account.

00:42:18.000 Oh no, that is quite good.

00:42:20.000 And all I get is a bunch of hand-waving.

00:42:21.000 I get a bunch of, well, maybe it's better for financial inclusion.

00:42:24.000 Maybe it's better for cross-border remittances.

00:42:26.000 Maybe.

00:42:26.000 Is there any evidence that it is?

00:42:28.000 And, you know, they say, well, what about China?

00:42:30.000 China is doing it. 0.86

00:42:31.000 Well, I can see why China would do it.

00:42:33.000 If they want to monitor every one of your transactions, you could do that with the central bank digital currency.

00:42:38.000 You can't do that with Venmo.

00:42:40.000 Oh, now we're getting somewhere.

00:42:41.000 It's not like we would just copy China, though, because China, they're very authoritarian.

00:42:46.000 You know, like, remember, during lockdown, without any evidence at all, they started showing people in their houses.

00:42:51.000 They just abandoned democracy.

00:42:52.000 Well, they didn't have to abandon democracy.

00:42:53.000 They don't have democracy.

00:42:54.000 That's why we in the West as democratic people and Republican people, Hey, Horton had the flu.

00:43:03.000 5G's the problem.

00:43:04.000 We crashed out of that video presentation just then, which we will post on Rumble in the next, you know, at the end of this show, we'll post it, because we have to be respectful of the time of my next guest, friend of the show, Co-Rumble creator.

00:43:22.000 I don't mean that I created Rumble.

00:43:24.000 He creates content on Rumble.

00:43:25.000 I feel like he did participate in creating Rumble.

00:43:27.000 He creates a lot.

00:43:28.000 He's the host of the Rubin Report.

00:43:30.000 He's a stand-up comedian.

00:43:31.000 He shows on Monday to Friday at 11 a.m.

00:43:34.000 ET and 8 a.m.

00:43:36.000 PT.

00:43:38.000 He created Locals using simply his mind.

00:43:40.000 It's Dave Rubin.

00:43:42.000 Thanks Dave.

00:43:43.000 Thanks for coming on.

00:43:45.000 Russell, I like how you somehow announced that you were the co-creator of Rumble right there.

00:43:49.000 That's pretty good.

00:43:50.000 I did not know that.

00:43:51.000 Learn to code!

00:43:53.000 That's what I'll say to people who can't get jobs. 1.00

00:43:55.000 Learn to code.

00:43:56.000 Because I did, and that's how I co-created Rumble.

00:43:59.000 Using my mind.

00:43:59.000 No, it was incredible.

00:44:01.000 I created locals and then I was like, I'd like to talk to the Rumble people.

00:44:01.000 It was incredible.

00:44:05.000 Is Russell Brand available?

00:44:06.000 And you're like, We created this thing.

00:44:08.000 We want to work with you.

00:44:09.000 It's all beautiful.

00:44:10.000 Me, Chris Pavlovsky, we drew just a couple of kids really with a dream.

00:44:13.000 Just a couple of crazy kids in Toronto.

00:44:17.000 But we committed to it and look at where we are now.

00:44:19.000 Now you can tell I'm not a co-creator.

00:44:20.000 All you have to do is visit Rumble headquarters and see that tiny room that's dedicated to me.

00:44:25.000 Whereas you have like I think like the Dave Rubin massage parlor.

00:44:29.000 I've basically got a toilet.

00:44:31.000 At Rumble, named after me.

00:44:32.000 Happy endings for everybody in my conference room, but your room is just a small room for a foot massage, that's it.

00:44:38.000 That's all we can get away with in that amount of space, Dave.

00:44:42.000 Dave, when we transfer over on to locals, we'll talk about how this current escalating crisis in the Middle East has divided even the apparently unified space of, let's call it, the online libertarian right for One of a simpler phrase, but until we're on locals, got a whole bunch of other questions.

00:45:03.000 Like Blessed Old Bird wants to know, how was ARC?

00:45:07.000 You know, you'd participate in Jordan Peterson's ARC Festival?

00:45:12.000 Conference.

00:45:12.000 Conference?

00:45:13.000 I wonder, we spoke to Jordan around that time, and I guess the stated mission was to find

00:45:18.000 meaning again in politics, to revivify the conservative political movement, to talk about

00:45:25.000 subsidiarity.

00:45:26.000 It seems like there was a lot of good intentions there.

00:45:30.000 How did that work out?

00:45:33.000 It was really wonderful.

00:45:34.000 And Russell, I wish you were there.

00:45:35.000 I know you were busy with a couple of things, but it was so great to have.

00:45:38.000 It was 1,500 invited guests for the first three days.

00:45:42.000 So, you know, there were politicians and heads of state and then, you know, media guys like us and there were comedians It was just like a mix of just interesting people from all over, quite literally all over the globe, I think 73 countries and every walk of life and all sorts of different political stripes.

00:45:58.000 But the basic idea was, what is a better story that all of us, whether you're in Great Britain, whether you're in the United States or you're in Spain, that the story of the West Has just disappeared.

00:46:09.000 We don't know how to defend freedom anymore.

00:46:11.000 We don't know how to tell people.

00:46:12.000 Oh, the government's not supposed to just give you stuff.

00:46:15.000 You're supposed to live your life as you see fit and then build a government up that direction.

00:46:20.000 So what is the better story?

00:46:22.000 And we did three days of talks and I had a studio outside just right outside the main room.

00:46:27.000 So I interviewed about 20 people and it was sort of a greatest hits of the years of my show because so many people from Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Brett Weinstein and Jay Bhattacharya and just all the long list of people that I've interviewed is just great.

00:46:39.000 And then I'm telling you, Russell, if you have not seen it yet, Jordan gave the best speech I have ever heard in my life.

00:46:48.000 You know, I toured with this guy for about 120 shows in 2018.

00:46:52.000 It was the best speech he has ever given to close that thing where he took, it was like, it was like Mr. Jordan's opus.

00:46:59.000 He took every bit of Of everything that he has been working on as a clinical psychologist, as now I would say a great political thinker, as a religious scholar, I think it's fair to call him that.

00:47:11.000 He put all the pieces together and talked about the concept of Jacob's Ladder, that basically, that you as a human being, it is your divine duty To build the best life for yourself, because if you do that, and you act good as a husband, and a father, and as a member of your community, you can literally build Jacob's Ladder up, up to the divine.

00:47:34.000 And it was the most wonderful, I mean, I'm not kidding you, when I tell you 1,500 people, I don't think there was a dry eye in the room.

00:47:39.000 It's up on the Ark Channel.

00:47:41.000 It's absolutely incredible.

00:47:42.000 So, yes, you were missed, man, because you would have absolutely loved it.

00:47:46.000 It felt sane for a couple days, and we don't have a lot of that these days.

00:47:50.000 Wow, that sounds interesting.

00:47:51.000 And I feel like, Jordan Peterson, perhaps due to technology, perhaps due to the way that the culture is fragmenting and fracturing, and perhaps those phenomena, of course, inextricably linked anyway, i.e.

00:48:03.000 technology has led to more fissuring in the culture, presumed spaces that you once would have called a red state or a blue state.

00:48:11.000 You realize there's more complexity to that and Right up until this conflict it seemed to me that there was sort of a new emergent movement, new alliances, where people that you might have once thought of as traditional liberals or even left-wing were finding new alliances with people that were more broadly right-wing.

00:48:27.000 And I want to talk about, or I want to ask you actually, figures like Jordan Peterson, In a sense, he wouldn't have risen to the position of prominence that he is in now without the way that media has altered.

00:48:39.000 Take also, perhaps a more obvious example, Tucker Carlson, who earlier when we talked about his current visit to Spain and him showing up at a UFC event, he's kind of akin to a king without a kingdom or principality currently.

00:48:56.000 He has an incredible amount of Power and influence.

00:48:59.000 I wonder what you think of these figures like Peterson and Tucker Carlson with Elon Musk.

00:49:04.000 I suppose it's slightly distinct because his power is alloyed to great wealth and to measurable and observable power.

00:49:11.000 But what does it say about the political voices, you know, figures that would once have been considered leaders, that these new kind of sovereigns are emerging?

00:49:20.000 Joe Rogan, another great example, Do you think this is because of the way technology has changed or do you think it's the way that our cultural life has changed, that there are new people in positions of power and prominence?

00:49:32.000 Is it to do with integrity?

00:49:33.000 Authenticity?

00:49:34.000 What's it about and where will it lead when we seem to be experiencing so much political crisis and fracture?

00:49:40.000 Well, first off, because I know you won't do it for yourself, I'll put you in that bin, too, because you're another one of those voices.

00:49:46.000 I mean, it's clear.

00:49:48.000 Look at the way the system has been treating you, and it's only because you've become one of those voices.

00:49:53.000 They're all kind of different in their own way.

00:49:54.000 You know, Jordan, I would say Jordan is a modern prophet, and I really believe that.

00:50:00.000 You don't have to believe it in the strict biblical sense of a prophet, but you actually could.

00:50:05.000 But Jordan is able to communicate really deep, Existential and eternally important ideas in a way that clearly millions of people across the world have been looking for and could not find a way that they could hear them in a way that would make sense.

00:50:21.000 So this guy has been touring the world now, going all over the globe for a couple years, selling out massive theaters, telling people deep messages of truth that they have needed.

00:50:32.000 So that's one version on the Jordan side.

00:50:35.000 The Tucker side is that he has been telling people politically that the machine is not in it for you.

00:50:42.000 And it's interesting with Tucker because he did it from inside the machine for a long time.

00:50:46.000 Tucker, as he says often, he's been fired from a million places.

00:50:51.000 I'm pretty sure he worked at MSNBC, he worked at CNN, he worked at Fox, he's had a couple other gigs along the way.

00:50:58.000 And then he started saying a bunch of things, and it doesn't mean he's right about everything,

00:51:03.000 but the core of what Tucker's idea is, is that there is a structure that exists,

00:51:08.000 a political structure, and in America we've kind of got the Democrats

00:51:12.000 and the Republicans.

00:51:13.000 I think his position would be, the Republicans are maybe a tiny bit better,

00:51:16.000 but usually they're gonna sell you out too, and you have to figure out a new way around that.

00:51:20.000 So that's how he does it.

00:51:22.000 Elon, at a technological perspective, it's like this guy is literally sending rockets to Mars.

00:51:28.000 He is working on Neuralink.

00:51:29.000 He is the renaissance man of our time.

00:51:32.000 And yet for some crazy reason, he decided to get into the free speech fight too, because he realized, man, we're not going to get off this rock.

00:51:41.000 Meaning this planet and get to Mars and all the other stuff that he really cares about, interplanetary travel and all that, unless we figure out some of the problems here, because we're going to end up blowing ourselves apart here.

00:51:50.000 So then he buys Twitter for $44 billion, a company that hasn't made a dime in over a decade.

00:51:56.000 I mean, it purges money, and he bought it for $44 billion.

00:51:59.000 Rogan has done sort of what you and I both do.

00:52:03.000 On steroids.

00:52:04.000 His show is bigger than CNN, the network.

00:52:07.000 It's bigger than Fox News, the network.

00:52:09.000 And all the... it's not that it's that genius.

00:52:11.000 The genius is that it's not genius.

00:52:13.000 It's that he sits down and listens to people.

00:52:16.000 And I think, you know, if you look at the last Say 10 or 15 years, what the internet did, it opened up all of these voices, right?

00:52:23.000 It allowed guys like me and you to come in and I started my original show in my garage and people couldn't believe it.

00:52:29.000 They were like, wait a minute, how does this guy run a TV show out of his garage? 0.99

00:52:33.000 Tucker walked into my studio and he said, holy effing shit. 0.99

00:52:37.000 How did you do this? 1.00

00:52:38.000 Like he was jealous of me.

00:52:39.000 The guy was making 20 million bucks a year and he was jealous of me in my little garage in the Valley in LA.

00:52:45.000 And all I was doing, Was just trying to talk it out with people.

00:52:49.000 That's gotten increasingly difficult, as you know, because the sides are kind of going their own way.

00:52:54.000 But I would say what brings all these people roughly kind of together is basically the quest for truth.

00:53:02.000 It's trying to get to something that is not lowest common denominator, that is not just bludgeoning us and making us all subservient to the system.

00:53:11.000 It's just Some hope that we can solve some of these problems.

00:53:16.000 I don't know that we can solve some of these problems, but I think it's the hope that brings all of us, the guys that watch you, make sense of what's going on here, and you hit the media in such a beautiful way.

00:53:26.000 That moment you had with Bill Maher a couple months ago, I played it on my show 20 times, because it's such a perfect example of how you expose the frauds, and it's just because you're on the quest for truth, and just like me, I would say Rogan and the other guys.

00:53:41.000 It's like, you don't know everything, but you're damn well going to try, and people appreciate that.

00:53:45.000 Thank you.

00:53:46.000 It seems a lot of it is about authenticity and integrity, and that's certainly something that we'll discuss when we're going to go over to locals in a minute.

00:53:56.000 Why wouldn't we?

00:53:57.000 For God's sake, Dave generated it out of his mind, along with me.

00:54:01.000 Didn't you create that thing?

00:54:02.000 It was quite valuable in the creation of Locals, another one of my inventions.

00:54:07.000 This kind of integrity and authenticity, when we get over there, we'll talk about the complexity of this current Middle Eastern conflict and how it's caused division and hate, even with people that are not directly ideologically or religiously involved.

00:54:20.000 I can see an escalation of hate.

00:54:22.000 That seemed to be something that was being surmounted elsewhere.

00:54:26.000 There was just a kind of an anti-establishment movement that seemed to be gaining momentum that now is starting to fracture in ways that sort of concern me, actually.

00:54:36.000 But when it comes to what the independent media is able to do brilliantly, and perhaps why, you know, the people you've just listed have gained the territory and credibility that they have, is because when it comes to a story like the Nord Stream pipeline, when that happened a couple of years ago, whenever it was, Many people thought Russia didn't do that.

00:54:52.000 The US have been talking about blowing up that pipeline, how it's vital to American interests.

00:54:58.000 It was really clear that it would be some kind of project between Ukraine and the USA.

00:55:04.000 Now evidence is emerging that that is the case.

00:55:07.000 Will we see it reported on in a way that legitimately serves as a mere culpa and a genuine update?

00:55:14.000 Like, oh look, the Nord Stream pipeline, it was Ukraine.

00:55:18.000 And as, I suppose, as enthusiasm, shall we call it, for that conflict wanes, will we

00:55:24.000 similarly see figures in the media that have advocated for that war, advocated for the

00:55:30.000 ongoing funding of that war, acknowledge that it has not been successful in the way it is

00:55:36.000 reported?

00:55:37.000 You can't do pipeline stuff if you can, Dave.

00:55:39.000 Yeah, well, as I say on my show all the time, I mean, the truth is a time-release pill these

00:55:43.000 The thing is, you can't hide the truth.

00:55:45.000 But one of the things that the corporate press did for a long time, before the internet, was they could basically set the agenda.

00:55:52.000 You know, the Overton window was opened up in a very narrow way, and they could Pretty much tell you what was true.

00:55:57.000 So, you know, from an American perspective, at 630 p.m.

00:56:01.000 we had NBC News, CBS News, ABC News, and you only watched one or the other depending on whether you happen to like Tom Brokaw or Peter Jennings or Dan Rather.

00:56:11.000 And they basically covered the same amount of stuff.

00:56:13.000 Then the internet comes, it blows everything up, Now you have all of these voices.

00:56:18.000 Now it puts a lot of pressure on guys like us to kind of do something true because your integrity is attached to it.

00:56:24.000 But the Nord Stream story is a perfect example of this because you can go back to all of my videos.

00:56:29.000 We didn't cover it that much, but the entire time I was like, I'm pretty sure Russia didn't blow up their own pipe.

00:56:36.000 And we're going to have to find out more about this.

00:56:39.000 And oh, yes, there is video of Joe Biden saying that that thing will never be functional.

00:56:43.000 So do you think that maybe the US or Ukraine had a little something to do with it?

00:56:48.000 So why is it that a guy like me, who I'm not an expert in, you know, geopolitical energy sector, why is it that I'm skeptical when I hear a story about that?

00:56:57.000 Why is that when the Hunter Biden laptop story came out, I was like, wait a minute, I'm I'm pretty sure there's something here.

00:57:03.000 It doesn't feel like Russian misinformation.

00:57:06.000 Why is it that I didn't fall for Donald Trump, very fine people on both sides?

00:57:10.000 And the media kept playing a clip of him saying, there's very fine people on both sides, but the next sentence out of his mouth is, uh, but that, but I totally condemn the neo Nazis and the racists.

00:57:19.000 Like, why is it that a certain set of people fall for everything every single time? 0.72

00:57:25.000 And then a couple of us, And by the way, I'm not saying I'm some freaking genius.

00:57:29.000 I'm just a little skeptical of the machine.

00:57:32.000 We don't fall for it.

00:57:33.000 And again, that's what's kind of driving people to us.

00:57:35.000 So no, I am not surprised that we are now hearing that there was some Ukrainian involvement, which most likely means there was American involvement.

00:57:42.000 And the question is, how long does it take for that to bubble up to the top?

00:57:47.000 I would also say it's sort of like, you know, Biden's mental capacity at this point.

00:57:51.000 Everyone knows there's something wrong with him.

00:57:53.000 We all talk about it for years.

00:57:54.000 I was talking about it when he was running for president.

00:57:57.000 But you can see it's just bubbling up to mainstream now because now they're starting to worry that he's going to lose the election.

00:58:03.000 So they're like trying to tease it a little bit.

00:58:07.000 You're allowed to kind of talk about it on CNN now in case they have to do something crazy and get rid of him before the election.

00:58:13.000 Yeah, I suppose the same was true during the pandemic, where there was just nothing but absolute bombast, unrelenting propaganda, and then slowly now, over time, okay, the AstraZeneca one, we'll give you that, okay, Pfizer released a drug that wasn't the one they clinically trialled, Yeah, that indemnity thing was a crazy move.

00:58:35.000 Like, slowly now, almost in a way, it seems like, I suppose, I suppose all propaganda is about managing the consciousness of the populace, giving information in a way that does not generate uprising.

00:58:49.000 And I, you know, I guess one of the things we'll talk about, Dave, when we go on to locals is, is there a component of the escalation of geopolitical conflicts in the Middle East that's Playing a comparable role, calling division, legitimizing censorship, creating tension where there was starting to be consensus.

00:59:08.000 A conversation we'll have in a second.

00:59:10.000 Guys, we're gonna go on to Locals.

00:59:12.000 If you're with us on Rumble, and I see you there, I see all you guys, I want to let you know that Alex Jones, a two-parter, are on Thursday and Friday this week.

00:59:21.000 If you want to watch it right away, press the red button and join us on Locals that I invented.

00:59:25.000 And you can join me and Dave Rubin for a conversation right now, as well as early access to interviews, readings of the Bible and other religious books, talk about new solutions, where we might critique the problem over here, we talk about solutions over there, and I want to welcome some of our new members like Ben Roman, Annonymous, Ryan636, Bela, Nadia Burr, Dawn, Alan, thank you for joining us on Locals.

00:59:46.000 And why don't the rest of you join us on Locals right now, where I'm going to be asking Dave how this Middle Eastern conflict has caused division, has created new cries for censorship and has created, I think, even beyond the people that are directly involved in this terrible tragedy, 0.57

Stay Free - Russel Brand - November 14, 2023

Russell Brand & Dave Rubin On Middle East War, Big Pharma & Clinton! - Stay Free #245

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