00:04:30.340We'll be going over the American Research Group polls and some polls from Richard Barris, peoples underscore pundit on X.
00:04:39.240Richard Barris is the people's pundit, director of Big Data Poll and author of the new bestselling book, Burn It Down, What the Polls Say Young Americans Really Want.
00:10:12.760And that's what I'm seeing just on the street across the country, not just here in Austin, Texas.
00:10:17.520And I don't think there's any way Trump could not know that's happening.
00:10:21.160And, of course, that's what The Washington Post said is that he thinks he's going to lose the midterms.
00:10:25.380And as much as I'm mad at the Republicans, I do see it as us losing because we know they're Democrat socialists foaming at their mouth.
00:10:30.900What do you think the thinking is now with Trump?
00:10:33.000And what are you expecting with the numbers in the midterms?
00:10:36.160And then what do you expect the Democrats to do once they've won the House and probably the Senate?
00:10:41.360Well, that's that's the difference between this administration and the first administration.
00:10:47.180Democrats are disciplined this time around, and it's actually impressed me.
00:10:50.620I got to be honest. I didn't think they had it in them, but they have learned from their mistakes, something Republicans just seem they they're impervious to data.
00:11:00.540They're just not capable of introspection. And I thought the left was that I really did.
00:11:05.860I thought that's who the left was, that the right was much better at this and they were much more individualistic.
00:11:10.980But the truth is the left has learned.
00:11:13.020They've listened to some very smart people that they had and said, look, we beat ourselves in 24.
00:11:18.360Harris didn't even lose to Donald Trump.
00:11:20.580You know, we beat ourselves and we did so because we're crazy on a host of issues from everything from transing kids down the line.0.91
00:11:28.140And we also ticked off a huge chunk of our base, which they did.0.71
00:11:32.080That's why Donald Trump did so well in places like Dearborn, Michigan, with some of the foreign policy stuff.
00:11:37.540I expect them to completely lose their cool when they win this thing.
00:12:34.480He wants to be clear when the hammer comes down that he's far away from it because people know the Democrats are going to go completely insane.
00:12:41.500And like you said, I'm not a cult member.
00:12:43.640I didn't see any insider trading, any corruption in the first administration.
00:12:48.660This time it's like they're trying to break the world record for it.
00:12:50.920He thinks, well, I'll just pardon everybody.
00:12:52.580Well, they'll have two years of investigations.
00:12:55.020And just in the court of public opinion, he'll be known as more corrupt than Ulysses S. Grant.
00:12:59.860And so one way or another, he'll be convicted in the court of public opinion.
00:13:04.220And so I see the Republican Party racing away from him.
00:13:08.760The neocons are trying to come back in and have a foothold with him.
00:13:11.880They'll turn on him in a minute, but they're not going to have any support.
00:13:15.820And there's going to be a real incentive for Republicans, and Trump deserves it, to throw him under the bus to differentiate themselves going into 2028.
00:13:25.040I do, and I think we are already seeing this.
00:13:27.800We saw public reports about senators being open about this investigation with Don Jr., who, by the way, is a private citizen.
00:13:35.160He's not he's not within his father's administration, yet they're already willing to go and dabble in areas like that.
00:13:41.400There are definitely Republicans, folks, if you don't think for a second that there are Republicans right now making phone calls to their Democratic counterparts and saying, you know what?
00:13:51.320I may be open to certain investigations if you don't target me in my district or if you lay off into spending somewhere else, because I already know for a fact that that is happening.
00:14:01.080Oh, it's going on. So slow down. This is so key. This is so key. We do an hour on this.
00:14:05.820This is they're already carving up the new world. The battle space is already being formed.
00:14:10.000And you've got all these Trump supporters, 30, 40 percent of what's left, still delusional, saying everything is Trump into the future, having no idea that it's a whole new world.
00:14:20.000Yet at this point, you should be thinking about what it's going to look like after Trump, because they're going to try to dismantle the brand so badly that it will be incredibly difficult to rebuild it or to bring something else forward.
00:14:32.920You know, maybe another slogan which represents the same platform and set of values that America First did.
00:14:38.060They're going to try to completely wreck that, and they're going to get the help of members of the Republican Party who I guess we just forgot always hated Donald Trump.
00:14:47.100They always hated you, folks. I mean, ultimately, what you're seeing in the second Trump administration is that Trump was elected by a coalition of people who do not share anything in common with the donor class and the neocons who have all of the money and all of the power in the party.
00:15:02.000So when Trump got in office, they got their way again and they intend to just go back and set the, you know, rewind the clock and go back to the party of Bush like it was before Donald Trump.
00:15:12.580And by the way, we have a column in Real Clear Politics today.
00:15:15.980My entire point is trying to show people the numbers.
00:15:19.040Neither side has the coalition in the barrel ready to do that.
00:15:24.020Alex, those voters are dead and dying.
00:15:26.760It is going to be a very brave new world.
00:15:29.460And these younger generations have very different views about how they want their government to act.
00:15:34.000And if the Republicans can't harness that because they're getting bludgeoned by investigation after investigation,
00:15:38.680then these voters are not only going to burn it down,
00:15:41.240but they're going to burn it down with what is left of the Trump administration inside of it.
00:16:07.680If you've got if you've got funds and if you are investing in the stock market as a city or county, you have total standing when somebody is giving insider information to come in and sue their brains out.
00:16:20.520So Trump's only thinking about having criminal liability for one hundred thousand dollars to get inside information, open insider trading.
00:16:26.660He's not even thinking about civil or state.
00:16:29.700Again, I don't know what switch got flipped in Trump to do cartoon level corruption stuff.
00:16:36.700And and all of this is easy, more easily smooth over when you're making people's lives better.
00:16:44.020And I think this is what people are having a hard time grasping when they're looking at the impact of all of this on the midterms.
00:16:48.640And why are we headed for what looks to be a complete bloodbath?
00:16:52.440They forget wave, guys. This is looking like a blue tsunami.
00:16:55.960I have not I do not have a reputation for being hyperbolic and B.S.
00:17:00.060people. These numbers are bad. And a big part of that is that people don't understand in the
00:17:06.140comparing the first administration. He went in, he had a good economy still in 18. Even when we got
00:17:11.940all the way down to the January 6th stuff, things were still going well because it was recovering
00:17:16.660after the COVID lockdowns. It was recovering very sharply still under Donald Trump. People are
00:17:22.100willing to overlook a lot, even though they were duds, in fact. But it took the country sometimes
00:17:27.220three, six, nine months to figure out that the next media hoax was a dud. The next accusation
00:17:33.440was a dud. They didn't know that right away all the time, although many of them started to catch
00:17:38.500along that the media was just throwing one thing against the wall after another. This time it's
00:17:42.760different, even if they still were duds. All right. And you're arguing they're not. And I
00:17:47.740think a lot of us would agree, even if they still were duds, folks, when they're not making your
00:17:53.080life when when when a politician or in this case a president or anybody's not making your life
00:17:57.460better you're a lot less inclined to want to entertain it and i think that's why you see
00:18:01.980people even trump supporters have been trump supporters for a long time you know the stuff
00:18:06.080that they may see on true social or the definitely headlines like we're talking about now they're not
00:18:10.780willing to entertain it anymore alex it's not funny anymore and it's just not funny anymore
00:18:15.720it's not and trump has lost his underdog status he's acted as imperious as he could again it's
00:18:22.400almost too perfect everything he's doing other than that great speech of the un talking about
00:18:27.680no global government no ai dictatorship i mean all that was what people like a strong trump
00:18:32.020revolutionary that was whether he's good or not that was powerful truth that was being said that
00:18:35.560has an effect but i think you agree with me i think you just nodded your head why is he doing
00:18:39.420everything perfectly as if he's possessed by john podesta you know to take over his body and destroy
00:18:44.820him i you know i don't know i've thought a lot about this and think about all of the
00:18:50.980all of the adversity that donald trump has overcome and for i mean i'm originally from
00:18:55.860new york i'm not you know i live in the south now but i'm i was you know native new yorker
00:19:00.160and donald trump is basically a legend over there everyone has a trump story and everybody who's my
00:19:05.460age watched donald trump not before he even got into the world of politics may come back after
00:19:10.160come back after come back then he goes on he gets his political career he defeats not one but two
00:19:17.400of the most powerful political dynasties in this country he's got all of this crap thrown against
00:19:22.480him he survives it yeah he gets replaced for four years but then makes this incredible historic
00:19:28.040comeback survives multiple assassination attempts you gotta start to wonder i mean really alex you
00:19:34.360have to start to wonder if you're that person do you start to believe some of the legend does you
00:19:41.320know do you think that oh remember him saying remember him saying i am the chosen one he looks
00:19:46.640up in the sky and you just nailed it the war started what 206 days ago um right when it was
00:19:52.400starting tucker told me this is house last time i was on with him um he he said he got on the phone
00:19:59.020and he said listen netanyahu hates you they're not going to fall the prices are going to explode
00:20:03.320it's going to kill your recovery and trump says don't worry it always works out i always win
00:20:07.280and tucker began screaming and cussing at him tucker told me this saying effing this that
00:20:12.140listen to me because tucker really does care and then and then and then trump yelled at him and
00:20:16.700then hung the phone up and that's the last time they talked but i mean yeah he literally told
00:20:21.640tucker basically i'm invincible go ahead so you just nailed it yeah yeah and i was speaking of
00:20:26.920tucker i was just going to bring this up i was listening to and i know probably a bunch of people
00:20:30.240on the right don't like the guy but it doesn't mean his reporting's wrong i was listening to
00:20:33.900his interview with max blumenthal and max said several things in that interview that i know
00:20:38.660are true. So, you know, the idea that you can not take the advice of your own Pentagon and your own
00:20:46.520intelligence apparatus because you're being sold by the lobby an alternate version of events on
00:20:52.940how this may transpire, including that they're going to rise up, Alex, right? The Iranian people,
00:20:58.280they just need a little bit of help. And you promised them a little help. And if you just0.80
00:21:01.780give them a little shove, they're going to take their country back. And you know what? All these0.87
00:21:06.160other naysayers told you you couldn't do this in venezuela look at how great it went they were very
00:21:11.920good at playing to what he wanted to believe i that's what and and some of the stories i heard
00:21:18.320from max i know that happened so he you know people who were telling him even if it was to go
00:21:24.840as quickly as we saw with venezuela it was a huge success which it won't be but even if it would be
00:21:30.380it's still a broken promise it's a middle east war i mean that you're not talking you're talking
00:21:34.360about a totally different hemisphere and a totally different platform of, of the promises that you
00:21:38.520made, but you couldn't even get that far because without a doubt, there was an inclination to want
00:21:44.580to believe that it was going to work out, that this was going to be quick and we would not get
00:21:49.260caught in this quagmire. We would not get bogged down like this. That is true. I mean, it's just
00:21:54.280a fact. So, I mean, I know, I know we're going to learn a lot more about this as time goes on
00:21:58.800And historians do their work. But some of us know that those version of events have validity to them.
00:22:07.420And I think that's that's unfortunate. And I would say that because you brought up Mark before they brought Mark to the White House.
00:22:14.540You know, I went look, there are some of us who have done a good job over a decade trying, including you, trying to tell the president the truth and trying to, you know, provide them with that that true north.
00:22:26.840There were others who tried to oppose him that entire time.
00:22:31.200And it looks like the people who opposed him got their argument through.
00:22:35.120And it's just, it's a little bit unbelievable.
00:22:37.160When we look back and think about it, it's unbelievable.
00:23:08.980And so it's a political class failing across the board.
00:23:12.580Their only trick left is to keep us fighting over left and right.
00:23:15.080I see people transcending that with data centers and AI.
00:23:18.180I think the establishment really has miscalculated and should really try to innovate and reform its way out of this.0.98
00:23:27.640I mean, I think too bad Elon Musk is foreign born.0.63
00:23:31.040I think he would make the president, I think.1.00
00:23:35.220Yeah, I think that you're right about the political class miscalculating because, and again, go check out that column we wrote today in Real Clear Politics, guys.
00:23:45.640I mean, everyone just expects certain generations to get older and act and think like the generations before them.
00:23:52.120And that's just not true. So when you look at who these people are, including those who voted for Donald Trump, they they they're not ideological.
00:23:59.540Right. So when you think about potential new realignment rising to the surface, we saw, you know, Steve Bannon meet with Bill Gates.
00:24:05.760And you can see Ro Khanna talking with people on the right and, you know, on the populist right.
00:24:10.600and you see Joe Ken and Tucker and others doing this,
00:24:13.980I think they just kind of got complacent
00:25:27.200I mean, that's more of just a futurist political question.
00:25:30.240I was thinking you, Richard Barris, at People's Underscore Pundit,
00:25:33.480more as a futurist than even just a pollster.
00:25:35.400As you look at so much data, just in closing, what is that new world going to look like for Trump world?
00:25:41.500I think it's going to be volatile. I do. I think it's going to be, you know, dog eat dog.
00:25:46.160And the president, he's always nobody expects the president to take any kind of attack laying down.
00:25:51.960He's going to fight. It'll get ugly, Alex. It'll get really ugly.
00:25:54.660And he'll draw a line and he'll say, you're either with me or you're against me.
00:25:58.140And unfortunately, again, this is the saddest part about this.
00:26:01.740So many of the people that surround the president just didn't try to protect him, or maybe they didn't care.
00:26:07.240I think a lot of people tried to squeeze what they could out of Donald Trump.
00:26:10.240They used him and basically got what they could from him while he had the ball, while they had the ball.
00:26:16.860Instead of running it down the field, they did what they wanted to do with it to advance their own agenda.
00:26:22.380So what they didn't tell him, because they didn't care about him, obviously, is that you have a finite amount of political power and a finite amount of political capital.
00:26:30.480So when he does draw those ultimatums, look, I'm under assault here.
00:26:36.140I think, unfortunately, he's going to find a lot of people are going to say, sorry, I'm against you, because there's just nothing else that you can do for them.
00:26:42.460Once you're a second term president past the midterm, it's over.
00:26:46.280And a lot of newer people who are good people that got into this movement, they just didn't know how this game works.
00:26:52.800They didn't understand the rules, how it's played.
00:26:54.960They didn't understand what currency is used in this game.
00:26:58.500And they were noobs, you know, to put a lack of a better word.
00:27:01.580And they didn't get that once we get to a certain point, you know, all presidents have waning influence and you need to put yourself in the right position before you do it.
00:27:09.860Because the only thing you have left real quick, and I know we're running out, is what Reagan relied on during the Iran-Contra issue, which was he was still very popular.
00:27:17.460But he was very popular because he was making other people's lives better.
00:27:20.420He was making average Americans' lives better, and he had empathy, which is something lacking, sorely lacking from this White House, which did not in Trump 1.0.
00:27:30.360In his first administration, you could call him crass.
00:27:33.160You can say he's got rough edges, but when it came down to it, he got in front of that microphone, Alex, and he had empathy.
00:28:40.280Well, last question, I only got a minute left
00:28:41.900We kind of addressed this, but do you think he understands
00:28:45.000Because he's making a lot of these decisions
00:28:46.200I agree, a lot of it's side corruption, you know, under his nose, that, oh, I'll just pardon everybody.
00:28:50.760Isn't he worried about the civil issues here that are cut and dry, like monopoly behavior, like the San Francisco lawsuit?
00:28:57.200You know, I look at some of the things, some of the headlines, you know, there's, you know, whether it's because they're going to come after him over some of the business dealings he's made and his family's made while in office.
00:29:06.480I think he probably, I mean, I'm just trying to put myself in his shoes.
00:29:10.340You see, if you're Trump the first time around and then you see like Trump towers chained, the doors are chained.
00:29:16.960They're going to take it away from you.
00:29:18.220You know that that's a very real that's got to have a very real impact on somebody.
00:29:22.620And you may think that next time I don't have enough wealth.