The Alex Jones Show Live - September 24, 2026


🌊CRITICAL INTEL: "Forget Wave— This Is Looking Like A BLUE TSUNAMI!"

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00:00:00.000 Why are we headed for what looks to be a complete bloodbath?
00:00:04.060 Forget wave, guys.
00:00:05.560 This is looking like a blue tsunami.
00:00:07.040 I do not have a reputation for being hyperbolic and BSing people.
00:00:12.240 These numbers are bad.
00:00:14.300 And a big part of that is that people don't understand, comparing the first administration,
00:00:19.500 he went in, he had a good economy still in 18.
00:00:22.400 Even when we got all the way down to the January 6th stuff, things were still going well because
00:00:27.020 it was recovering after the COVID lockdowns.
00:00:29.780 it was recovering very sharply still under donald trump people are willing to overlook a lot even
00:00:35.460 though they were duds in fact but it took the country sometimes three six nine months to figure
00:00:40.960 out that the next media hoax was a dud the next accusation was a dud they didn't know that right
00:00:46.780 away all the time although many of them started to you know catch along that the media was just
00:00:50.900 throwing one thing against the wall after another this time it's different even if they still were
00:00:56.280 duds all right and you're arguing they're not and i think a lot of us would agree even if they still
00:01:01.480 were duds folks when they're not making your life when when when a politician or in this case a
00:01:07.040 president or anybody's not making your life better you're a lot less inclined to want to entertain it
00:01:11.880 and i think that's why you see people even trump supporters have been trump supporters for a long
00:01:16.060 time you know the stuff that they may see on true social or the definitely headlines like we're
00:01:20.340 talking about now they're not willing to entertain it anymore alex it's not funny anymore
00:01:25.280 On Thursday, September 24th, Alex Jones returns to the original InfoWars studios in Austin, Texas.
00:01:34.080 And once again, you are the Paul Revere's.
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00:01:45.880 We've only just begun to fight.
00:01:48.520 i've noticed when i get into trump's bad poll numbers that we get attacked which is fine
00:01:58.280 by the neocon kind of israel first wing that's taken over the trump administration last year
00:02:03.860 and a half and to a great extent they don't full control and run it in the ground and that's one
00:02:08.060 of the main poll items that people are upset about is obviously the the the iran war uh the
00:02:12.920 economy, affordability, the illegals, all the rest of it. But Trump's statements, there's been many
00:02:20.240 of them, but one of the most famous is, to paraphrase, they can pull it up. I don't care
00:02:25.940 about the average American's economic crises or problems. I only care about this war. And we've
00:02:31.600 seen other people in the administration say, yeah, you're a wimp, $20 burrito, suck it up, kid. 0.99
00:02:36.580 And it's some, you know, 400-pound billionaire saying it. This is Marie Antoinette, let them 0.99
00:02:42.340 eat cake stuff, whether she really said that or not, the trigger of the French Revolution. 0.77
00:02:46.420 They probably made it up. I mean, I don't think she'd be stupid enough to say that. In fact, 0.99
00:02:49.680 most historians say it was a lie. But Trump has been making Marie Antoinette statements.
00:02:55.360 I don't think about America's financial situation when negotiating when they're in.
00:02:59.520 In fact, the full quote was worse than that. He was asked about their pain and how they're
00:03:02.620 handling it. And, oh, I don't care. The only thing I think about is this. And now that war
00:03:08.640 is a complete failure as we predicted it would be in causing inflation to explode. Oil could top
00:03:13.860 $150 a barrel if supplies tighten further, Bank of America warns. I said two months ago, I believe
00:03:20.000 that we'll be at $150 a barrel by November. And we're almost there in September. 10-year treasury
00:03:28.400 yields leaps to fresh 19-year high after hot economic readings. That means more inflation.
00:03:34.940 We have to pay people a lot more to buy our bonds.
00:03:37.000 We're monetizing over half the bonds now.
00:03:39.380 That's Weimar Republic Zimbabwe stuff.
00:03:42.300 That is real bad.
00:03:44.020 And so the headline should be,
00:03:45.580 Basin's attempts to prop up the bond market have failed miserably.
00:03:50.340 And then the cheerleaders for Trump go,
00:03:52.380 well, if you wouldn't panic, it would work.
00:03:54.440 No, that's not how this works.
00:03:56.720 We're trying to get Trump back on course to not run us into the iceberg.
00:04:00.700 It's not my fault I'm right.
00:04:02.620 It's not my fault Trump's making all these moves.
00:04:05.560 And some would say maybe he's just a globalist and it's part of the Great Reset.
00:04:08.340 And, you know, he started the COVID lockdowns.
00:04:10.480 He wasn't as bad as the Democrats, but good cop, bad cop.
00:04:14.340 I'm more and more thinking it's all deliberate.
00:04:16.760 Republican jitters grow as unpopular Trump fuels midterm bloodbath fears.
00:04:22.460 Trump midterm woes deepen him in worsening economic backdrop.
00:04:26.640 Trump approval rating falls to 32.
00:04:29.020 It's 29 in other areas.
00:04:30.340 We'll be going over the American Research Group polls and some polls from Richard Barris, peoples underscore pundit on X.
00:04:39.240 Richard Barris is the people's pundit, director of Big Data Poll and author of the new bestselling book, Burn It Down, What the Polls Say Young Americans Really Want.
00:04:46.520 We've got more polls on that.
00:04:48.000 I'll try to give you the floor here, sir, to start wherever you'd like.
00:04:51.780 But 41 days out, things aren't looking good.
00:04:55.800 Thanks for having me on again, Alex.
00:04:57.380 I appreciate it.
00:04:58.180 You just showed that chart as you were going through the pile of headlines there.
00:05:02.340 You showed the chart from our latest poll, and I'm looking at those swings, and I don't
00:05:06.420 know how it just doesn't jump immediately off the paper at everybody when they're looking
00:05:10.700 at what is going on with the Republicans and why they're headed for this.
00:05:14.640 I mean, they are headed for a bloodbath at this point, and I got to tell you, some of
00:05:18.320 the polls, and I heard you bring up Mark Mitchell before, there are a few of us, and I understand
00:05:22.500 people don't trust polls, and they have good reason not to, but there have been a few of
00:05:26.800 us who have done a good job over the years. And, you know, last year when we started shooting those
00:05:32.140 flares in the air and burying your head in the sand was not the move to make when people like
00:05:36.740 you who are in touch with the Trump voter going back as far as 2015 were shooting flares in the
00:05:42.680 air and saying this is not the path to go down. They should have listened. And now we're just at
00:05:46.960 a point, Alex, where people always ask me, well, what is it? How do we turn that around? Look at
00:05:50.860 that chart. How do we turn that around? And my answer is almost you got to think about things
00:05:56.260 to stop doing before you think about things that you can do in order to turn this around.
00:06:02.080 And that goes to show you how heavy of a lift this really is now moving into November,
00:06:07.320 because we're we're just at a point where these things get baked into people's heads.
00:06:12.840 And if the Republican Party wanted to really take this seriously, they would have done
00:06:16.880 it a year ago.
00:06:17.560 But let me just bring up what I think is really going on.
00:06:20.060 And it's a simple it's a simple misinterpretation by Republicans of who voted them into office
00:06:26.020 in the 2024 election. And a lot of them did not get the votes of these voters because people like
00:06:31.120 Republicans. Donald Trump and his brand of MAGA, his brand of Republicanism, America First,
00:06:37.040 made being Republican cool again. And that's why he won so many younger voters. And that's why he
00:06:42.960 won so many non-white voters. When they got in office, they didn't govern for these people. 0.96
00:06:47.660 They governed for a Fox, like a boomer con, a minority of a boomer con that is glued to Fox
00:06:53.480 news. And they did so at the expense of the younger vote, which was more young, more non-white 0.84
00:06:59.100 than anything we've seen for a Republican coalition before. They did it at their expense 0.92
00:07:03.680 and they ignored everything that they had to say and call different people who were trying to give
00:07:08.400 them a voice, Panikins and all these other names. So first things first, they need to stop that.
00:07:13.620 I mean, it is what it is. I know it sounds super simple, but apparently it's not because they keep
00:07:18.900 going out and doing these, making these same mistakes and giving themselves the same inflicted
00:07:23.320 wounds over and over again. So now they've led themselves to a place where they think, well,
00:07:28.080 we can't run on the economy. We can't run on the war. So we'll just have to run with the simple
00:07:34.020 argument that our opponent is scary. They're bad. They're socialists. That's just not going to work
00:07:39.040 for the group of voters who they needed to make their coalition going forward. That Fox Boomer 0.96
00:07:44.500 Con is always going to come out for you. They're going to come out, whether it's a midterm election
00:07:48.780 or it's a presidential election.
00:07:50.500 Your job was to figure out
00:07:52.360 how to get the rest of that coalition to come out.
00:07:55.680 And that's the part that's depressed right now.
00:07:57.860 And that's the part that doesn't care
00:07:59.740 how many times you call the Democrats socialists.
00:08:02.440 It's not gonna scare them to vote 0.84
00:08:03.900 for Mike Rogers over El Syed.
00:08:06.320 You had to talk about the issues they cared about
00:08:08.720 because the name of the book
00:08:10.020 is Burn It Down for a Reason, Alex.
00:08:11.620 They're at the point where they're just,
00:08:13.700 they don't see any productive,
00:08:15.680 there's no value in going back and forth
00:08:18.300 and picking different parties when the donors constantly win it doesn't matter who you vote for
00:08:24.040 the donors get their way so these kids are gonna go and i call them kids because i'm getting old
00:08:28.840 and i'm getting gray but you know i'm talking about guys everybody essentially under 50 years
00:08:33.000 old but definitely millennials and generation z they're gonna burn this thing down and with 40
00:08:38.920 days left to go you know i i'm not you know i hate to say it but there's very few things that 0.99
00:08:45.480 you could do to stop it well that's why i think it's deliberate even though i've talked a little
00:08:50.720 bit a lot of the cabinet meetings in the past a lot of sorts i had i still have a few and then
00:08:54.560 i see stuff later in the news usually the washington post before would lie i know it's
00:08:58.520 accurate because some people that were in the meetings and i talked about it before it came out
00:09:01.960 that with mark mitchell as they saw him on the show the vice president called him up there like
00:09:06.020 a year and a half ago and uh trump just talked about gold on the walls and how great his golf
00:09:12.020 swing is and then wandered out. But the chief of staff and the vice president and others were very
00:09:16.680 concerned. And then I talked to other pollsters and internal Republican pollsters saying they
00:09:20.480 had the same type of meetings just six months ago. Now I'm told he is paying attention and acting
00:09:25.720 like he's concerned and sitting on the meetings. But I can't think he's that stupid. I mean, 1.00
00:09:30.580 I think Trump's really smart to cover up the Epstein stuff and then do the war and then make
00:09:37.780 all these other statements and then have this parade of constant leftist billionaires and Mark
00:09:42.680 Zuckerberg and Bill Gates up there with him. No one wanted to see this. And then now, I mean,
00:09:48.780 on the street, I have to say, half the Trump voters I know say they hate him now and just
00:09:54.500 want to see him in prison. And then I'd say another 20 percent or so still like him over
00:10:01.600 the Democrats, but are dismayed. And then maybe 30 percent still worship him. In fact, even more
00:10:06.540 When a cult's in trouble, it gets more radical.
00:10:09.460 It gets more internally turned.
00:10:12.760 And that's what I'm seeing just on the street across the country, not just here in Austin, Texas.
00:10:17.520 And I don't think there's any way Trump could not know that's happening.
00:10:21.160 And, of course, that's what The Washington Post said is that he thinks he's going to lose the midterms.
00:10:25.380 And as much as I'm mad at the Republicans, I do see it as us losing because we know they're Democrat socialists foaming at their mouth.
00:10:30.900 What do you think the thinking is now with Trump?
00:10:33.000 And what are you expecting with the numbers in the midterms?
00:10:36.160 And then what do you expect the Democrats to do once they've won the House and probably the Senate?
00:10:41.360 Well, that's that's the difference between this administration and the first administration.
00:10:47.180 Democrats are disciplined this time around, and it's actually impressed me.
00:10:50.620 I got to be honest. I didn't think they had it in them, but they have learned from their mistakes, something Republicans just seem they they're impervious to data.
00:11:00.540 They're just not capable of introspection. And I thought the left was that I really did.
00:11:05.860 I thought that's who the left was, that the right was much better at this and they were much more individualistic.
00:11:10.980 But the truth is the left has learned.
00:11:13.020 They've listened to some very smart people that they had and said, look, we beat ourselves in 24.
00:11:18.360 Harris didn't even lose to Donald Trump.
00:11:20.580 You know, we beat ourselves and we did so because we're crazy on a host of issues from everything from transing kids down the line. 0.91
00:11:28.140 And we also ticked off a huge chunk of our base, which they did. 0.71
00:11:32.080 That's why Donald Trump did so well in places like Dearborn, Michigan, with some of the foreign policy stuff.
00:11:37.540 I expect them to completely lose their cool when they win this thing.
00:11:41.020 I mean, I really do.
00:11:42.180 But I do know just from talking to people, Alex, that they have a plan this time in a way that they did not before.
00:11:48.280 They just threw stuff against the wall to see what would stick in that first administration, and it backfired.
00:11:53.580 Look, Donald Trump was elected with dozens of felony indictments in 24 because they overreach, because it was just too much.
00:12:00.120 This time they have far different plans.
00:12:01.760 They're going to be a little bit more systematic about it, more.
00:12:04.540 You're going to go after people around him before they go after him.
00:12:08.180 And the problem, and I think this is what people who really were trying to warn the president, they couldn't get this through.
00:12:14.780 Republicans this time don't have to worry about him maybe making a comeback and being a problem for them in the future.
00:12:21.360 So Republican defections are more of a concern when these investigations start than they ever were in the first administration.
00:12:27.900 That is so key. People are going to make it clear.
00:12:30.960 That's why I think Tucker overcorrected towards Democrats.
00:12:33.440 Well, did he really?
00:12:34.480 He wants to be clear when the hammer comes down that he's far away from it because people know the Democrats are going to go completely insane.
00:12:41.500 And like you said, I'm not a cult member.
00:12:43.640 I didn't see any insider trading, any corruption in the first administration.
00:12:47.240 He lost half his wealth or more.
00:12:48.660 This time it's like they're trying to break the world record for it.
00:12:50.920 He thinks, well, I'll just pardon everybody.
00:12:52.580 Well, they'll have two years of investigations.
00:12:55.020 And just in the court of public opinion, he'll be known as more corrupt than Ulysses S. Grant.
00:12:59.860 And so one way or another, he'll be convicted in the court of public opinion.
00:13:04.220 And so I see the Republican Party racing away from him.
00:13:08.760 The neocons are trying to come back in and have a foothold with him.
00:13:11.880 They'll turn on him in a minute, but they're not going to have any support.
00:13:15.820 And there's going to be a real incentive for Republicans, and Trump deserves it, to throw him under the bus to differentiate themselves going into 2028.
00:13:23.880 Do you agree with that?
00:13:25.040 I do, and I think we are already seeing this.
00:13:27.800 We saw public reports about senators being open about this investigation with Don Jr., who, by the way, is a private citizen.
00:13:35.160 He's not he's not within his father's administration, yet they're already willing to go and dabble in areas like that.
00:13:41.400 There are definitely Republicans, folks, if you don't think for a second that there are Republicans right now making phone calls to their Democratic counterparts and saying, you know what?
00:13:51.320 I may be open to certain investigations if you don't target me in my district or if you lay off into spending somewhere else, because I already know for a fact that that is happening.
00:14:01.080 Oh, it's going on. So slow down. This is so key. This is so key. We do an hour on this.
00:14:05.820 This is they're already carving up the new world. The battle space is already being formed.
00:14:10.000 And you've got all these Trump supporters, 30, 40 percent of what's left, still delusional, saying everything is Trump into the future, having no idea that it's a whole new world.
00:14:18.360 Go ahead. Elaborate on that.
00:14:20.000 Yet at this point, you should be thinking about what it's going to look like after Trump, because they're going to try to dismantle the brand so badly that it will be incredibly difficult to rebuild it or to bring something else forward.
00:14:32.920 You know, maybe another slogan which represents the same platform and set of values that America First did.
00:14:38.060 They're going to try to completely wreck that, and they're going to get the help of members of the Republican Party who I guess we just forgot always hated Donald Trump.
00:14:47.100 They always hated you, folks. I mean, ultimately, what you're seeing in the second Trump administration is that Trump was elected by a coalition of people who do not share anything in common with the donor class and the neocons who have all of the money and all of the power in the party.
00:15:02.000 So when Trump got in office, they got their way again and they intend to just go back and set the, you know, rewind the clock and go back to the party of Bush like it was before Donald Trump.
00:15:12.580 And by the way, we have a column in Real Clear Politics today.
00:15:15.980 My entire point is trying to show people the numbers.
00:15:19.040 Neither side has the coalition in the barrel ready to do that.
00:15:24.020 Alex, those voters are dead and dying.
00:15:26.760 It is going to be a very brave new world.
00:15:29.460 And these younger generations have very different views about how they want their government to act.
00:15:34.000 And if the Republicans can't harness that because they're getting bludgeoned by investigation after investigation,
00:15:38.680 then these voters are not only going to burn it down,
00:15:41.240 but they're going to burn it down with what is left of the Trump administration inside of it.
00:15:45.020 And again, you hit the key.
00:15:45.960 I'm just repeating because it's so important.
00:15:47.900 They had duds.
00:15:49.380 They had nothings when they came for him last time.
00:15:52.100 The stuff he's doing now, I mean, look at this.
00:15:53.960 We knew this was coming.
00:15:55.320 San Francisco sues Truth Social over early access to Truth Post,
00:15:59.260 and they have a right to do that, just like Texas sued BlackRock
00:16:02.800 for picking winners and losers and trying to tell the state how to spend money.
00:16:06.840 It's the same thing.
00:16:07.680 If you've got if you've got funds and if you are investing in the stock market as a city or county, you have total standing when somebody is giving insider information to come in and sue their brains out.
00:16:20.520 So Trump's only thinking about having criminal liability for one hundred thousand dollars to get inside information, open insider trading.
00:16:26.660 He's not even thinking about civil or state.
00:16:29.700 Again, I don't know what switch got flipped in Trump to do cartoon level corruption stuff.
00:16:35.780 Do you have any idea?
00:16:36.700 And and all of this is easy, more easily smooth over when you're making people's lives better.
00:16:44.020 And I think this is what people are having a hard time grasping when they're looking at the impact of all of this on the midterms.
00:16:48.640 And why are we headed for what looks to be a complete bloodbath?
00:16:52.440 They forget wave, guys. This is looking like a blue tsunami.
00:16:55.960 I have not I do not have a reputation for being hyperbolic and B.S.
00:17:00.060 people. These numbers are bad. And a big part of that is that people don't understand in the
00:17:06.140 comparing the first administration. He went in, he had a good economy still in 18. Even when we got
00:17:11.940 all the way down to the January 6th stuff, things were still going well because it was recovering
00:17:16.660 after the COVID lockdowns. It was recovering very sharply still under Donald Trump. People are
00:17:22.100 willing to overlook a lot, even though they were duds, in fact. But it took the country sometimes
00:17:27.220 three, six, nine months to figure out that the next media hoax was a dud. The next accusation
00:17:33.440 was a dud. They didn't know that right away all the time, although many of them started to catch
00:17:38.500 along that the media was just throwing one thing against the wall after another. This time it's
00:17:42.760 different, even if they still were duds. All right. And you're arguing they're not. And I
00:17:47.740 think a lot of us would agree, even if they still were duds, folks, when they're not making your
00:17:53.080 life when when when a politician or in this case a president or anybody's not making your life
00:17:57.460 better you're a lot less inclined to want to entertain it and i think that's why you see
00:18:01.980 people even trump supporters have been trump supporters for a long time you know the stuff
00:18:06.080 that they may see on true social or the definitely headlines like we're talking about now they're not
00:18:10.780 willing to entertain it anymore alex it's not funny anymore and it's just not funny anymore
00:18:15.720 it's not and trump has lost his underdog status he's acted as imperious as he could again it's
00:18:22.400 almost too perfect everything he's doing other than that great speech of the un talking about
00:18:27.680 no global government no ai dictatorship i mean all that was what people like a strong trump
00:18:32.020 revolutionary that was whether he's good or not that was powerful truth that was being said that
00:18:35.560 has an effect but i think you agree with me i think you just nodded your head why is he doing
00:18:39.420 everything perfectly as if he's possessed by john podesta you know to take over his body and destroy
00:18:44.820 him i you know i don't know i've thought a lot about this and think about all of the
00:18:50.980 all of the adversity that donald trump has overcome and for i mean i'm originally from
00:18:55.860 new york i'm not you know i live in the south now but i'm i was you know native new yorker
00:19:00.160 and donald trump is basically a legend over there everyone has a trump story and everybody who's my
00:19:05.460 age watched donald trump not before he even got into the world of politics may come back after
00:19:10.160 come back after come back then he goes on he gets his political career he defeats not one but two
00:19:17.400 of the most powerful political dynasties in this country he's got all of this crap thrown against
00:19:22.480 him he survives it yeah he gets replaced for four years but then makes this incredible historic
00:19:28.040 comeback survives multiple assassination attempts you gotta start to wonder i mean really alex you
00:19:34.360 have to start to wonder if you're that person do you start to believe some of the legend does you
00:19:41.320 know do you think that oh remember him saying remember him saying i am the chosen one he looks
00:19:46.640 up in the sky and you just nailed it the war started what 206 days ago um right when it was
00:19:52.400 starting tucker told me this is house last time i was on with him um he he said he got on the phone
00:19:59.020 and he said listen netanyahu hates you they're not going to fall the prices are going to explode
00:20:03.320 it's going to kill your recovery and trump says don't worry it always works out i always win
00:20:07.280 and tucker began screaming and cussing at him tucker told me this saying effing this that
00:20:12.140 listen to me because tucker really does care and then and then and then trump yelled at him and
00:20:16.700 then hung the phone up and that's the last time they talked but i mean yeah he literally told
00:20:21.640 tucker basically i'm invincible go ahead so you just nailed it yeah yeah and i was speaking of
00:20:26.920 tucker i was just going to bring this up i was listening to and i know probably a bunch of people
00:20:30.240 on the right don't like the guy but it doesn't mean his reporting's wrong i was listening to
00:20:33.900 his interview with max blumenthal and max said several things in that interview that i know
00:20:38.660 are true. So, you know, the idea that you can not take the advice of your own Pentagon and your own
00:20:46.520 intelligence apparatus because you're being sold by the lobby an alternate version of events on
00:20:52.940 how this may transpire, including that they're going to rise up, Alex, right? The Iranian people,
00:20:58.280 they just need a little bit of help. And you promised them a little help. And if you just 0.80
00:21:01.780 give them a little shove, they're going to take their country back. And you know what? All these 0.87
00:21:06.160 other naysayers told you you couldn't do this in venezuela look at how great it went they were very
00:21:11.920 good at playing to what he wanted to believe i that's what and and some of the stories i heard
00:21:18.320 from max i know that happened so he you know people who were telling him even if it was to go
00:21:24.840 as quickly as we saw with venezuela it was a huge success which it won't be but even if it would be
00:21:30.380 it's still a broken promise it's a middle east war i mean that you're not talking you're talking
00:21:34.360 about a totally different hemisphere and a totally different platform of, of the promises that you
00:21:38.520 made, but you couldn't even get that far because without a doubt, there was an inclination to want
00:21:44.580 to believe that it was going to work out, that this was going to be quick and we would not get
00:21:49.260 caught in this quagmire. We would not get bogged down like this. That is true. I mean, it's just
00:21:54.280 a fact. So, I mean, I know, I know we're going to learn a lot more about this as time goes on
00:21:58.800 And historians do their work. But some of us know that those version of events have validity to them.
00:22:07.420 And I think that's that's unfortunate. And I would say that because you brought up Mark before they brought Mark to the White House.
00:22:14.540 You know, I went look, there are some of us who have done a good job over a decade trying, including you, trying to tell the president the truth and trying to, you know, provide them with that that true north.
00:22:26.840 There were others who tried to oppose him that entire time.
00:22:31.200 And it looks like the people who opposed him got their argument through.
00:22:35.120 And it's just, it's a little bit unbelievable.
00:22:37.160 When we look back and think about it, it's unbelievable.
00:22:39.760 But that is what happened.
00:22:41.800 In closing, I'm a populist, call me conservative, whatever you want,
00:22:47.180 anti-war guy, just an American.
00:22:48.960 I think our views politically are pretty similar to the majority of Americans.
00:22:53.840 I just want some type of crash landing out of this.
00:22:56.280 The Democrats are getting more radical.
00:22:58.040 They've been a little more organized, but their base is becoming even more communist. 1.00
00:23:02.760 They're cancer. 0.88
00:23:03.920 And then the Republicans have the blue bloods trying to come back in with the neocons. 0.97
00:23:07.460 That's going to be rejected.
00:23:08.980 And so it's a political class failing across the board.
00:23:12.580 Their only trick left is to keep us fighting over left and right.
00:23:15.080 I see people transcending that with data centers and AI.
00:23:18.180 I think the establishment really has miscalculated and should really try to innovate and reform its way out of this. 0.98
00:23:27.640 I mean, I think too bad Elon Musk is foreign born. 0.63
00:23:31.040 I think he would make the president, I think. 1.00
00:23:35.220 Yeah, I think that you're right about the political class miscalculating because, and again, go check out that column we wrote today in Real Clear Politics, guys.
00:23:44.500 I mean, we lay it out.
00:23:45.640 I mean, everyone just expects certain generations to get older and act and think like the generations before them.
00:23:52.120 And that's just not true. So when you look at who these people are, including those who voted for Donald Trump, they they they're not ideological.
00:23:59.540 Right. So when you think about potential new realignment rising to the surface, we saw, you know, Steve Bannon meet with Bill Gates.
00:24:05.760 And you can see Ro Khanna talking with people on the right and, you know, on the populist right.
00:24:10.600 and you see Joe Ken and Tucker and others doing this,
00:24:13.980 I think they just kind of got complacent
00:24:16.260 and thought that these institutions
00:24:17.960 are forever institutions
00:24:19.860 when no political party is a forever institution
00:24:22.720 and no political movement has durability
00:24:26.060 that can last despite one betrayal after another
00:24:30.040 or one failure of government after another.
00:24:32.600 People have a way of making government respond
00:24:34.760 and that's, we're no different.
00:24:36.260 America is no different.
00:24:37.260 We're exceptional, but we're not exempt.
00:24:39.340 Richard, if you can, we've got a two-minute break.
00:24:40.800 Just do five more minutes with us ahead of Dark Journalism coming on.
00:24:44.080 I want to ask you then, just in a magic world, if Trump woke up today and did the right thing,
00:24:48.000 what would you do if you were him?
00:24:49.500 And then the secondary question is, we know what the Democrats are going to do when they get back in.
00:24:54.100 What is Trump going to do in all of his arrogance? 1.00
00:24:56.520 Because I don't think it's that it's even intentional or that he's stupid. 1.00
00:24:59.160 I think he's just drunk on arrogance. 1.00
00:25:00.480 I think that's the answer.
00:25:01.620 What does he do when it all starts crashing in and he's not civilly protected,
00:25:06.060 even though his pardons are there.
00:25:10.840 What is the MAGA cult, the remnants of it?
00:25:13.920 I mean, most of them just get PR company money, Israeli money,
00:25:17.520 $1.3 billion admittedly from the Knesset this last year and a half.
00:25:21.240 So most of them are just on the payroll.
00:25:22.680 But what are they going to do when we lose the House and Senate?
00:25:25.260 What are they going to do?
00:25:26.000 What is Trump going to do?
00:25:27.200 I mean, that's more of just a futurist political question.
00:25:30.240 I was thinking you, Richard Barris, at People's Underscore Pundit,
00:25:33.480 more as a futurist than even just a pollster.
00:25:35.400 As you look at so much data, just in closing, what is that new world going to look like for Trump world?
00:25:41.500 I think it's going to be volatile. I do. I think it's going to be, you know, dog eat dog.
00:25:46.160 And the president, he's always nobody expects the president to take any kind of attack laying down.
00:25:51.960 He's going to fight. It'll get ugly, Alex. It'll get really ugly.
00:25:54.660 And he'll draw a line and he'll say, you're either with me or you're against me.
00:25:58.140 And unfortunately, again, this is the saddest part about this.
00:26:01.740 So many of the people that surround the president just didn't try to protect him, or maybe they didn't care.
00:26:07.240 I think a lot of people tried to squeeze what they could out of Donald Trump.
00:26:10.240 They used him and basically got what they could from him while he had the ball, while they had the ball.
00:26:16.860 Instead of running it down the field, they did what they wanted to do with it to advance their own agenda.
00:26:22.380 So what they didn't tell him, because they didn't care about him, obviously, is that you have a finite amount of political power and a finite amount of political capital.
00:26:30.480 So when he does draw those ultimatums, look, I'm under assault here.
00:26:34.860 You're either with me or against me.
00:26:36.140 I think, unfortunately, he's going to find a lot of people are going to say, sorry, I'm against you, because there's just nothing else that you can do for them.
00:26:42.460 Once you're a second term president past the midterm, it's over.
00:26:46.280 And a lot of newer people who are good people that got into this movement, they just didn't know how this game works.
00:26:52.800 They didn't understand the rules, how it's played.
00:26:54.960 They didn't understand what currency is used in this game.
00:26:58.500 And they were noobs, you know, to put a lack of a better word.
00:27:01.580 And they didn't get that once we get to a certain point, you know, all presidents have waning influence and you need to put yourself in the right position before you do it.
00:27:09.860 Because the only thing you have left real quick, and I know we're running out, is what Reagan relied on during the Iran-Contra issue, which was he was still very popular.
00:27:17.460 But he was very popular because he was making other people's lives better.
00:27:20.420 He was making average Americans' lives better, and he had empathy, which is something lacking, sorely lacking from this White House, which did not in Trump 1.0.
00:27:30.360 In his first administration, you could call him crass.
00:27:33.160 You can say he's got rough edges, but when it came down to it, he got in front of that microphone, Alex, and he had empathy.
00:27:38.840 Well, that's right.
00:27:39.400 He lost it in the last year and a half.
00:27:41.540 You would never hear Reagan say, I don't care about the average American's financial plight. 1.00
00:27:45.180 It's the stupidest statement you can make. 1.00
00:27:48.380 Never would hear that. 1.00
00:27:49.240 And again, you would never hear that from Donald Trump in the first administration.
00:27:52.860 And I brought this up the last time I was on your show.
00:27:55.540 I mean, right in one of his last broadcasts, that's exactly what Rush Limbaugh was talking
00:27:59.840 about is nothing an external force does to you will ever break the bond that you have
00:28:05.760 with your voters.
00:28:06.480 They'll always be there.
00:28:07.540 They are your real suit, you know, your suit of armor.
00:28:10.760 They're your real chain mail.
00:28:11.860 And as long as you don't do them wrong, you don't cross them, they'll always have your
00:28:16.280 back.
00:28:16.620 You know, saying things like
00:28:18.780 If you care about these issues, I don't want your support anymore
00:28:21.180 Puts a dent in that chain mail, Alex
00:28:22.520 But instead, yeah, exactly
00:28:24.000 So he wrote us hard, put us away wet
00:28:25.860 And then he tried to crush using the Israel lobby 0.69
00:28:28.960 Anybody that asked questions 0.61
00:28:30.860 That only caused a bigger hemorrhage in Exodus
00:28:32.800 And it made people overcorrect
00:28:35.100 I think to get emotional and join the Democrats
00:28:36.960 Which I think is a bridge too far
00:28:38.360 Me too, me too, yeah
00:28:40.280 Well, last question, I only got a minute left
00:28:41.900 We kind of addressed this, but do you think he understands
00:28:45.000 Because he's making a lot of these decisions
00:28:46.200 I agree, a lot of it's side corruption, you know, under his nose, that, oh, I'll just pardon everybody.
00:28:50.760 Isn't he worried about the civil issues here that are cut and dry, like monopoly behavior, like the San Francisco lawsuit?
00:28:57.200 You know, I look at some of the things, some of the headlines, you know, there's, you know, whether it's because they're going to come after him over some of the business dealings he's made and his family's made while in office.
00:29:06.480 I think he probably, I mean, I'm just trying to put myself in his shoes.
00:29:10.340 You see, if you're Trump the first time around and then you see like Trump towers chained, the doors are chained.
00:29:16.960 They're going to take it away from you.
00:29:18.220 You know that that's a very real that's got to have a very real impact on somebody.
00:29:22.620 And you may think that next time I don't have enough wealth.
00:29:26.520 I don't have enough protection.
00:29:27.860 And maybe this is, you know, their way of thinking, you know, this is this will this will secure me more.
00:29:33.880 Because, in fact, I mean, anyone, it doesn't matter how wealthy you are, if the government,
00:29:38.300 If the federal government wants to come for you, they can take everything from you.
00:29:42.040 And I don't have to tell, you know, I don't have to tell people listening to the show that he's no different.
00:29:46.580 So I just think that's, again, I agree.
00:29:48.100 I think he got desperate because he was very close to bankruptcy again.
00:29:51.360 And now they're just whole hog at the buffet.
00:29:53.340 And that's going to be a bigger problem.
00:29:55.360 People's underscore pundit Richard Barris.
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