00:00:37.000I mean, Israel founding Hamas and Netanyahu standing down for seven and a half hours.
00:00:42.660Israel was responsible for men coming over the border, raping women, killing babies, rounding up families, elders, butchering people, taking innocent people hostage, not soldiers, raping women some more, keeping them in tunnels, raping them again, murdering some of them.
00:01:05.240I'm not defending Hamas or Hezbollah that helped coordinate that.
00:10:55.760At the same time, that is a like put in perspective, like real politic perspective.
00:11:01.340That is a tiny price to pay for getting for ruling out a rogue state that makes war on its own people, that reduces women to the status of slaves, really, that executes its own people, that gives women lashes for singing in public or, you know, letting their hair be visible into their headscarves.
00:11:25.980You could argue that none of that is our business or our problem. There are regimes around the world that do similar horrible things to their own populations and to women. But the threat that Iran presented as a nuclear threat that would not allow inspections, that wouldn't live up to international norms and treaties, proving that they were safe to be in that region, that they weren't building a nuclear arsenal.
00:11:52.780That's a I mean, that's a threat that someone like you usually would recognize as an existential threat.
00:12:00.560And the other thing I want to say is, you know, that Scott Bessentius today, I think, or this week announced that he was investigating and suppressing a huge set of like shadow banks that were funneling billions of dollars from and to Iran.
00:12:17.400And and these dollars were funding terrorist organizations around the world.
00:12:21.960Well, that really matters to us because, as you and I know, we're fighting a war here at home, even though it's not a declared war.
00:12:29.900And, you know, churches are being set on fire all over the West.
00:12:34.840There are attacks on civilians by Muslim fundamentalists, I think, posing as refugees all across Western Europe, increasingly in the United States.
00:12:47.000There are like buddies of, you know, people who said America deserved 9-11, you know, hanging out with our leadership, right? People like Zoran Mamdani in the mayor of the city where I live, New York City, people like Abdul El-Sayed, who has won his primary, right?
00:13:06.780the democratic socialists of america are in bed with the muslim brotherhood essentially and
00:13:13.320documented money flows um to the muslim you know to organizations adjacent to the muslim
00:13:19.420brotherhood and through care which is has been like confirmed to be funding uh terrorist friendly
00:13:28.360groups this is really really serious let me back up what you're saying from your perspective
00:13:33.300And some listeners will go, wait a minute, you've been against this war, but now you're going to argue it.
00:13:37.020I'm doing your perspective, then I'll give you my third, fourth, fifth consequence reason I'm against it.
00:13:43.200Obama triggered the Arab Spring, overthrew Egyptian allies, blew up hundreds of churches, got caught money laundering hundreds of millions of dollars to him.
00:13:52.580He's the same one who started the Ukraine war that literally has us on the brink of a nuclear war with the Bidens.
00:13:58.340And so you can go, wait, Trump is opposing their agenda with Iran with this triple game they're running.
00:18:04.500I would rather take out crazy fundamentalist tyrants who have numberless nuclear warheads, as you just acknowledged, in one of the most dangerous conflict-ridden parts of the world than turn a blind eye to the growing threat since they've made their wishes clear.
00:18:24.240All I'm saying is they got they got Hiroshima, Nakasaki type bombs, from my information.
00:18:28.840That's like a BB gun compared to a howitzer.
00:18:31.360And all I'm saying is, is that from all the actuaries I've seen, this pushes them in to using those.
00:18:37.400And then in most war games, it turns into a full nuclear war.
00:18:46.300No, but now they're admitting they basically have them or saying they might.
00:18:51.420I'm sorry, I'm not laughing because it's funny.
00:18:53.380I'm just laughing because I'm familiar with, I don't know how to put this nicely, fundamentalist Islamic rhetoric.
00:19:05.340We'll use them, we'll use them, great Satan, five months in, six months in, we're really going to build that nuclear bomb.
00:19:12.000I mean, to me, just looking as a kind of amateur.
00:19:16.140They know they're going to get nuked into oblivion if they use them.
00:19:19.060they i do i am not seeing an iran in a position of power i'm seeing that president trump's
00:19:27.640sustained uh warfare combat against them is degrading them and the other thing i kind of
00:19:33.740want you all to think about is headlines want war to be over in a week but if you think about
00:19:38.960the history of warfare many many successful wars were sieges and that's what i think we're seeing
00:19:45.460There are wars of it. There are wars of attrition.
00:19:48.440That's right. And I don't think President Trump is naming his strategy because he's too strategic to tell everyone, hey, idiots, this is a war of attrition.
00:19:57.180Sit tight. It's working. But that's what I see.
00:20:00.380I mean, you know, my husband was in Israel three weeks ago and people were, you know, sunbathing on the beaches and playing volleyball.
00:20:08.360And, you know, all the religions were going to prayer and they're, you know, completely protected mosques and synagogues and churches.
00:20:17.220And if Iran was in a position of power, that whole country would be a smoking ruin right now.
00:20:23.700They've been wanting to get rid of Israel for decades and they haven't.
00:20:28.020They didn't even strike Israel effectively because of Iron Dome.
00:20:31.220They haven't struck the United States.
00:20:33.020Meanwhile, day by day, we're increasingly becoming the, you know, the owners of 60 percent of the world's energy reserves and we're crippling Iran's ability to export their own oil.
00:20:47.020And now Scott Bessent, that genius Yale classmate I'm proud to claim, is crippling the money flow that didn't just fund Iran's strength at home and maybe, you know, their ability to build nuclear bombs that they would aim at us.
00:21:03.120He's also crippled their funding of terrorists here at home.
00:21:07.160Rama Duwaji, the first lady of New York, reposted an approving post about rapes on October 7th.
00:21:17.600You know, Hassan Piker says he wants to see the cat.
00:21:20.420No, I agree. So here's where we can agree that we have a serious Islamic problem.
00:21:25.900And the left has adopted transgenderism and expansionist Orthodox Islam as its operating system and also women killing their children.
00:21:35.100So I 100 percent agree with you on that.
00:21:37.160And I agree, like, I don't want my main focus obsessing over disagreements with Trump.
00:21:42.700And it doesn't matter if you do what you do anyways.
00:21:44.420We need to start focusing on post-Trump.
00:21:47.320We need to focus on the red-green alliance.
00:21:50.060So let's talk about these guys, because these are violent revolutionaries.
00:23:25.380Hunter Biden, the son of President Biden.
00:23:27.960The guy that poses with like 12-year-old girls in trophy photos.
00:23:30.640No, my point is, is that. Yeah, there's this thing, just because some people are pissed at Trump, I don't understand this full amnesia about the Democrats that have now been testicized.
00:23:41.440Oh, no, I'm not even talking about Tucker. I love Tucker. My point is, is that.
00:23:46.140Oh, my gosh. I had missed that. That's a shocker. Wow. OK, well, something happened to Tucker Carlson.
00:23:54.380I mean, you know, God bless him. But I mean, look, Alex, you know, we've been old friends, I hope, long distance for many years. I will always respect you so much. There is a weird thing going on on the MAGA right where there's this like eruption of anti-Semitism, anti-Israel venom and hostility toward Trump, which I think has to be engendered by our enemies that are trying to split us up.
00:24:21.720And specifically to split up Jews and Christians in America who have always had a traditional alliance with one another.
00:24:29.100I mean, we come from the same cultural route. We come from the same religious route.
00:24:32.860And if you're a Marxist Islamist, how clever to introduce personalities and narratives on the right that destroy the trust and affiliation that Christians and Jews have had since the founding of our nation with one another.
00:24:49.920That's my analysis. And I wish that the MAGA right now called sometimes the MAGA Reich would not fall for it.
00:24:57.360And some of my good friends, people I really love, have just embraced these weird conspiracy theories about Jews and this weird hostility toward Israel, which isn't even the top receiver of our foreign aid.
00:25:10.240Right. And is a loyal, faithful ally. And, you know, my issue is I love I love blowing up political correctness.
00:25:18.100So I say, let people say whatever they want, but at the same time, I am not, I am not in
00:28:36.720I mean, I'm I'm not. OK, I'm saying that Ben Gavir, that's the intelligence chief, is like we're going to burn all of Lebanon.
00:28:47.400We're taking Lebanon. We're taking part of Syria. Every time Trump has a peace deal, Israel goes and sabotages it.
00:28:53.160Yet the Israeli NDA, you know, with this, we don't need your money anymore. We don't need your money anymore.
00:28:58.920I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Jumping in, jumping in. Every time Trump has a peace deal, Israel goes and sabotages it. Who was responsible for October 7th?
00:29:09.400I mean, Israel founding Hamas and Netanyahu standing down for seven and a half hours.
00:29:15.040Israel was responsible for men coming over the border, raping women, killing babies, rounding up families, elders, butchering people, taking innocent people hostage, not soldiers, raping women some more, keeping them in tunnels, raping them again, murdering some of them.
00:29:37.640Yeah, well, I'm not defending Hamas or Hezbollah that helped coordinate that.
00:29:55.520If I go, I'm saying, are you denying Israel found that?
00:29:59.840Are you actually saying Israel made war on their own people on October 7th?
00:30:05.360Yeah, like 9-11, our government was heavily involved.
00:30:09.380I mean, Naomi, Israel is on record helping found Hamas,
00:30:13.700and Netanyahu was covertly paying him through Qatar.
00:30:15.800Well, I mean, we helped found, if you want to go that direction, like the Taliban.
00:30:21.400We helped found any number of, you know, psycho militias throughout the world.
00:30:25.680I don't know if Israel helped found Hamas,
00:30:30.580But I do know that those were innocent people and that that it is respectfully, I think, racist of you not to hold the men who actually crossed the border north accountable for seizing unarmed, helpless young women and men who were at a music festival, you know, or minding their own business on their kibbutz.
00:30:54.960like i'm sure you can find all kinds of flaws but those men who crossed the border
00:31:02.540were not israeli this is a damn you're a smart lady i've talked to you for like 17 years this
00:31:08.540is a i've read your books this is a very sophisticated audience okay and it's what
00:31:13.520i'm telling you is if i set up all these dominoes like fever vendetta and i knock over the dominoes
00:31:19.040obviously there's a bunch of people responsible i'm an islamophobe very proudly you haven't said
00:37:55.920And you're attributing all of that devastation to the Jews instead of saying, hey, what's wrong with these Islamist crazy people who would rather their own people suffer and die?
00:40:44.140My point is, is that the idea that I side with Hamas, who I'd put in a cannon and shoot to the
00:40:51.800moon, is not what I'm saying here, is that Israel, Smotrich, their finance minister, said three
00:40:58.040weeks ago, this is ideal. America's fighting our war. We knew it wouldn't go quick, but we'll
00:41:02.880destroy Iran through attrition. You said that earlier. It hurts us through attrition too.
00:41:07.260So I'm mainly mad that it wasn't honest that we're going to siege warfare and this is the thing. Oh,
00:41:13.240no it's midnight hammer oh it's strategic strides to take out their missiles and nukes no it's
00:41:17.980regime change and the dog ain't hunting naomi let's see how this ages in a year you think
00:41:24.040you think the mullows are going to fall you think the mullows are going to fall
00:41:26.840well right now um i mean first of all you're so sophisticated that you know that
00:41:34.320intelligence chiefs have many audiences and not all of them are americans you know he may be
00:41:41.840posturing for a home audience. I don't know. He may be posturing to intimidate the enemies that
00:41:47.520surround Israel. That's also possible. But who's winning? Well, right now, the longer the strait
00:41:53.100stays closed, and I am granted reading from notes, Iran can't pay soldiers or terrorists.
00:41:59.000They crash their own economies. China remains at a 44% oil import deficit. Europe is forced to buy
00:42:06.560oil from us. China doesn't have enough liquid natural gas to power its data centers so that
00:42:13.240we can win that race. And keeping the strait closed doesn't hurt us. We get no oil from Hormuz.
00:42:19.240The port of Corpus Christi, Texas, is having record imports and exports. So we are gaining
00:42:25.940energy dominance. Sure. And half the fertilizer to Africa comes out of the strait. One third of
00:42:32.020the world uh what about the africans the mass starvation that's about to happen well you know
00:42:37.480it's just incredible to hear you like i love you to bits but you're literally championing a an
00:42:44.500islamist tyranny and hamas like you're in bed with some really bad people right now i'm i'm surprised
00:42:51.840when i got out of bed this morning the ayatollah was in bed with me he was yeah it was hot no i'm
00:42:57.700not i'm not trying to be mean i just think that you know these are not the heroes of our geopolitics
00:43:03.700right now who's winning well right now gaza's in ruins tragically you know israel's doing fine
00:43:09.600it's startup capital of the world um you know sure so i'm asking you ask the question earlier
00:43:15.160what is israel going to do about what is israel going to do about its pr problem what about
00:43:21.540israel's pr problem i don't i don't i mean i don't think they have the best um communicators
00:43:29.180in the world but uh they remain our our some of our best allies i mean right now britain
00:43:37.660is doing worse on the world stage than israel is it's completely emasculated and it's being
00:43:44.720taken over by islamists and they're putting moms in jail for two years for tweets critical of
00:43:50.540immigrants totally agree it's a false equivalency i'm the ultimate islamophobe i'm not for them
00:43:55.860i just don't want to be in a giant war that the pentagon said wasn't probably going to be winnable
00:44:01.380see i don't like doing things don't work well i think we're winning i you know i think we're
00:44:06.360winning this war and i think americans are doing actually really well our border is closed
00:44:11.480uh we're saving billions of dollars because president trump has deported a lot of illegal
00:44:17.480immigrants. We're, again, ascending to energy dominance. We have free speech. We have a rule
00:44:24.080of law again. You know, I think it's wonderful. And, you know, again, speaking as a mother,
00:44:29.420the hostages, the remaining living hostages are home. Would you rather they were still in tunnels,
00:44:34.800you know, being raped? I mean, you should hear the women who have come home from Gaza.
00:44:40.560They were, I mean, one woman was raped to death. Like, where are you, Alex Jones? These are
00:44:46.020They're monsters. And it is not, you know, the Jews who were responsible for those Jewish women being dragged south of the border of their own country.
00:44:55.920You keep saying like, oh, what are you doing about rape women? I have nothing to do with that.
00:45:00.360Are you trying to tell me that Islam doesn't do horrible things to women?
00:45:04.340Well, you're blaming it on their own country. You're blaming their suffering on the wrong people.
00:45:09.220Let me explain to you this way. Let's say you got a couple of starving pit bulls on methamphetamine.
00:45:16.020and then I go put a baby by their pen and open the gate for them,
00:45:21.280are the pit bulls to blame or is the psycho that put the baby in with the pit bulls to blame?
00:45:25.340Yeah, that's really, like, I really respect you, but that is a totally disgusting analogy.
00:45:32.820The person who rapes the woman is responsible for her rape,
00:45:36.540and the Gazan Hamas rapists are not pit bulls.
00:45:39.540So the Muslim that threw the three-year-old into the crocodiles in England,
00:45:43.900the crocodiles the crocodiles are to blame not the muslim that threw the little kid into the
00:45:49.020crocodiles i do not hold israel accountable for kamas rapists and murderers coming north of the
00:45:59.080border to uh kidnap innocent civilians and take them south you can't you can blame both right
00:46:06.340like like i don't you understand like like i can be mad at the muslims and know what they're like
00:49:20.640Tell me, I can see what Israel's doing, committing us to a full war.
00:49:23.720What do you think of the Raider Israel project? Do you support it?
00:49:27.080I don't know that it exists. I've never seen it in a policy paper.
00:49:31.420And what I do see is that Israel has stayed with, hasn't just stayed within its borders and only taken more territory when it was attacked.
00:49:41.300But I've seen that they put up with a lot of security threats to stay, to leave the West Bank alone, to leave Gaza alone.
00:51:36.780I don't have talking points about Israel.
00:51:40.580I have notes about the Strait of Hormuz.
00:51:43.060And my response to you was a very heartfelt response as a woman and as a rape survivor about who's responsible for rapes and murders.
00:51:55.040And it's the people who rape and murder. And I did say it was racist of you to absolve the people who raped and murdered the women and put all the responsibility at the feet of the people who run those women's country.
00:52:09.940I think that's nonsensical. And I really object to you diminishing the sincerity of my feelings that the people who rape women and hold them hostage in tunnels for two years aren't responsible every single day.
00:52:23.120And not one person in that whole community helped the hostages, not one person.
00:52:28.440So we'll have to agree to disagree about this. But as a woman and as a rape survivor, I think it's really gross that you're trivializing my feelings and saying that I have talking points because I don't.
00:52:39.940Okay. Well, I'm sorry, you're a rape survivor. I've never been involved in any raping, but
00:52:43.520that's an appeal to emotion there. I was just upset Israel stood down for seven and a half hours.
00:52:48.820I think it's wrong to throw kids in a crocodile pit. So that's all I said.
00:52:54.040It's not an appeal to emotion. It's again, logically insisting as a woman that the guy
00:53:01.340who grabs the running, innocent young woman and takes her back across the border to his own
00:53:07.960country rapes her and keeps her for two years is the one who's morally responsible and that happens
00:53:13.240to be a group of muslim islamists and not the state of israel and not these not the jews like
00:53:19.400it's not the jews who rape those women so you know if you're obsessed with the jews and israel
00:53:24.440that's your problem you know may israel i'm not obsessed with israel israel dragging us into
00:53:29.460these wars is obsessed with me you know it tiny country like if you don't like the people but it
00:53:37.280Doesn't have a tiny footprint with AIPAC and primary members of Congress and bragging, you know.
00:53:48.560I mean, you know, Qatar, Turkey, the billions coming from Israel's enemies are flowing onto Capitol Hill, flowing to influencers.
00:53:58.420And if you want to choose your poison, I think Israel, I think America is a lot better off with a staunch ally who shares our values, shares our Judeo-Christian tradition, and isn't even the top recipient of USAID.
00:54:14.220But here's the thing, here's the thing.
00:54:16.260That's a very fair statement, because that's kind of what we're presented.
00:54:19.840Were we with the Muslims or with the Jews?