00:00:00.000This is the early phases or the beginning of, you know, I would say World War III, maybe World War IV, but this is the beginning of a world war.
00:00:06.880I mean, when you just look at how close these two fronts are, we're talking about Europe, we're talking about the Middle East, and then we're talking about basically everyone who's standing kind of against the American dominance.
00:00:17.940And again, China is who we're supposed to be worried about.
00:00:20.320I think most people agree that we should be worried about China, yet every move that we're taking from the time that we started supporting the Ukrainians and kicking Russia off the SWIFT system to starting the war in Iran with the Straits of Hormuz, the biggest benefactor has been China.
00:00:34.920We just had to move our fleet away from the Pacific, which is actually our border, which is actually our strategic interest, over to fight another war in the Middle East.
00:00:42.140Isn't that the first time pre-World War II?
00:00:44.380Isn't that the first time pre-World War II we have no aircraft carrier over there?
00:00:49.500Yeah. Sorry to interrupt. Any way you slice it or whatever you're going to call it, this is the beginning of a of a world war.
00:00:54.620I think we're in a sweet spot right now. I think we have a limited window of opportunity right now to take down the tensions and roll that clock back.
00:01:03.240But we're one miscalculation. We're one stray missile that the Russians thought had a nuclear warhead on it or a member of the IRGC deciding that they're going to use their ballistic capabilities to target one of our ships.
00:01:15.800We're one of those incidents away from slipping into uncontrollable world war
00:01:40.980So can you explain uncontrolled variables?
00:01:43.520The more you add, it's like the old Ed Sullivan show with the guy with the plates and the more plates they added spinning the plates.
00:01:49.280I mean, we're we've got a lot of plates spinning here.
00:01:53.360Yeah, I mean, that's a good analogy, because right now, just look at the tensions that we have, Russia, Ukraine, and then the tensions that we have in the Gulf.
00:02:01.740And we're not doing anything to take the tensions down.
00:02:04.240I'm not saying that overnight President Trump or any world leader right now could solve the problems that we have in the Middle East.
00:02:09.300They could solve the Russia, Ukraine issue.
00:02:11.020However, what they could do is they could take down the tension.
00:02:13.100So right now, the fact that we still have a massive blockade, we still have troops in a lot of the different countries that have been targeted, and we're sitting there telling the Iranians that we're going to crush them economically, that we're slowly going to squeeze them and bleed them.
00:02:25.640Now, I don't think that's going to work as far as the sanctions go, but we're telling them that.
00:02:29.440We've already killed the moderates.0.70
00:02:31.160Us and the Israelis have killed the moderates in that country.
00:02:34.040They say they won't negotiate with us unless we go back to the MOU that we basically already walked away from through our own actions.
00:02:40.440we have been unable to rein in the israelis and so we've left all these different variables in
00:02:46.880on the iran theater uh so the iranians could drag us back into the conflict if they choose to strike
00:02:51.840one of our ships or one of our bases causing a mass casualty event and then we have to respond
00:02:55.980and we have to respond in a way that we're not really prepared for because right now trump is
00:02:59.900saying the strategy is just squeeze iran we control the straits or her moves it's all going
00:03:03.900to be okay that's one ballistic missile strike away from being completely out the window and us
00:03:08.400having to escalate. And when we have to escalate because we are running low on precision, long
00:03:13.540distance munitions, we're going to have to take ground and get in closer. That's what the Pentagon
00:03:17.760is going to have to tell Trump. They're going to be like, hey, man, you, hey, sir, you've got two
00:03:21.120options here. We get in, we hold ground, we hit them with our closer stuff, or you hit them with
00:03:25.920precision nuclear weapons. And that's how these things escalate. Same thing, Russia, Ukraine,
00:03:30.040one stray missile going one way or another, the next thing you know, one side's using
00:03:34.900a nuclear weapon or we're seeing a situation where Ukraine may be overran. I think the train's not
00:03:40.720going to allow for that. I think the Russians have already failed at maneuver warfare, which is all
00:03:44.540the more reason why the Russians might go with something more high end that they think would be
00:03:48.940kind of an end game. And I think if we kick off on one theater or the next, the other theater will
00:03:53.820accelerate then to seeing it as an opportunity. So right now, Trump's saying he's got everything
00:03:58.500at an even boil. And I don't think he's calculating for just the unintended consequences
00:04:03.960that inevitably happen in any wartime scenario.
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00:04:43.380All right, I've got a lot of data, and you know I love to rattle it off.
00:04:50.300We got somebody on the nose more than I do because of what he's done on the battlefield
00:04:54.040and at the highest levels of national security, a lot of which obviously he can't talk about,
00:04:59.000but he's been a thousand trillion percent vindicated.
00:05:02.840We could spend the whole hour on that, on the situation in Ukraine, on the situation domestically, on the situation in the Middle East.
00:05:11.800Out of weapons, Navy falling apart, out of money, purging the top brass that was hired because they were loyal, because they're telling Trump things he doesn't want to hear.
00:05:22.000Joe Kent resigned two weeks into this disastrous Iran war.
00:05:25.580Tobar, attention was very polite, very nice about it, but said this is a disaster.
00:05:32.840And I was trying to get him on the last few weeks specifically on the Iran situation and the Houthis, and that's a whole area we'll get to.
00:05:39.660But this Russia thing has come to a head now with Putin's ministers saying, no, he's getting ready to start hitting NATO targets.
00:05:47.360And the debate is, do we just hit them with conventional weapons or will they hit us with nukes?
00:06:53.040Great to be with you. I'm glad you mentioned the normalcy bias, and I think that's something that really handicaps not just our strategic thinkers in America, but the American people as well.
00:07:03.620Since the end of World War II, the American people, we've kind of thought that we can't be touched. We're very safe from all these conflicts.
00:07:10.660Sometimes we go to war, and the wars, people feel different ways about them, but they don't really affect us back here at home, sometimes economically.
00:07:17.300And we think that forever, we're going to be on top, regardless of how bad we screw things up overseas.
00:07:23.680And I think that that bias right there has gotten us into this situation.
00:07:27.320We got into the Ukraine war under the Biden administration.
00:07:30.600And for a while there, I think Republicans were spot on to say we shouldn't be spending billions of dollars over there because of national debt.
00:07:37.300When you started talking about the potential for escalation, I think some people would kind of roll their eyes.
00:07:42.240But this fight for the Russians is existential.
00:07:45.260And we have continued, we, the West, NATO, with America being, you know, the biggest part of NATO, we've continued to supply weapons and intelligence for the Ukrainians to go on the offense, really.
00:07:56.140Now, they're defending themselves, and I don't, you know, bemoan the Ukrainians for defending themselves, but this war needs to end because if it doesn't, the Russians are going to be basically forced into either accepting a surrender that they can't accept because it's right on their border or escalating further.
00:08:10.700And because of the training, the weapons, the equipment, and the intelligence we've given the Ukrainians, they have been able to target Russian infrastructure, Russian oil and natural gas.
00:08:21.400They've been able to assassinate Russian political figures.
00:08:24.600They've been able to target Russian civilians.
00:08:27.820And so at some point, we have to realize the Russians are going to hit back.
00:08:31.100And the Russians also realize that we are caught right now in this quagmire in the Middle East.
00:08:36.900We're having to move strategic assets away from other theaters, very important ones like the Pacific, to cover our bases in the Middle East.
00:08:44.800And so the Russians right now realize that our back is against the wall.
00:08:47.800We are running low on weapon systems, obviously.
00:08:55.040So right now is a time where Russia is having their back put against the wall because of what Ukraine is doing with our assistance.
00:09:01.280And so basically we are setting things up right now so that the Russians have a pretty solid window to actually hit back.
00:09:08.740And something else that I don't think we realize because we villainized Putin, and I'm not justifying or covering for Putin, but I don't think Americans understand Russian politics enough to know that Putin actually is relatively moderate within Russia.
00:09:20.020There are people that are criticizing him in his military and in his political establishment that are saying that this war in Ukraine has gone on for too long.
00:09:30.000Why aren't we striking back? So I don't think the American people realize how close we are right now to a war that could change history, whether it goes nuclear or whether it just expands and Russia actually does start hitting some targets deeper into Ukraine or even some of our NATO partners.
00:09:47.800And then what happens after that? Then we're going to have to respond. Same thing with the situation in Iran that we can get into as well.
00:09:54.120well absolutely i have a clip here we haven't played yet for the first time putin came out
00:09:59.780last night and said yeah we're getting ready to hit foreign targets but he goes but on the
00:10:03.840battlefield we're winning so we're we're we're headed towards a close i think that means one
00:10:08.600way or another people that don't know what you said is a mainline pentagon assessment that's
00:10:12.540very clear very strong and that is that putin is a moderate and i have people on like victor boot
00:10:19.060that's, you know, part of even a more elite party over there that's very serious.
00:10:23.140And he's been talking about what's happening and the fact that Putin is now leaning towards
00:10:28.500bare minimum conventional attacks in Europe.
00:10:30.460And then a lot of the hardliners say, no, they're going to go ahead and nuke us when
00:10:46.220And then I want to elaborate on the head of the CIA over there three or four days ago secretly and what really went on at that meeting.
00:10:56.020Clearly, when I heard he was there, I was I've seen us cut back some of the weapons and intelligence, which is good.
00:11:02.440I think that, you know, Trump's done now is all of that diverting the weapons to the Iran war or is that actually Trump, you know, trying to follow through on his promises and deescalate this.
00:11:12.440But regardless, we got mixed signals on what that meeting was really about.
00:11:16.940I know you can't from your sources divulge anything classified, but just with your perspective
00:11:21.680in history, what could you imagine or do you have any idea what was discussed there?
00:11:27.140Well, you know, best case, I would hope that when Ratcliffe went over there, it was to
00:11:31.880get the Russians to tell them, to assure them that we were telling the Ukrainians to stop
00:11:38.120hitting energy and to stop striking civilian targets, that we are going to restrain the
00:11:42.000Ukrainians. But if we don't do that, and I don't believe we have, anything that Ratcliffe says to
00:11:47.600the Russians, they're going to ignore. We've heard Putin talk about this quite a bit. And this is a
00:11:52.320big reason why I don't think we have peace yet in Ukraine. Trump had all the right intentions
00:11:56.780coming back into office to get a peace, but he was never able to fully stop the military-industrial
00:12:03.120complex and our intelligence apparatus from continuing to fund and to provide targeting
00:12:08.000guidance you know to the ukrainians even when he when he tried to do so so whatever message ratcliffe
00:12:13.040delivers if we're trying to restrain the russians in any meaningful way they're gonna just nod
00:12:17.680politely and then when he leaves they're gonna say yeah okay the cia and the military industrial
00:12:22.720complex in america they're still at war with us and let's just carry on let's completely ignore
00:12:26.960them regardless of what the president says we've heard putin say this multiple times that you know
00:12:31.040the real the president of the united states actually doesn't matter it's the men in the
00:12:34.000the dark suits who do matter. And so the Russians are very aware that we run NATO. And so everything
00:12:39.900that's being done to them by the Ukrainians with NATO weaponry, NATO targeting, they view it as us
00:12:46.160doing it directly to them. So unfortunately, I mean, even if Ratcliffe was over there delivering
00:12:51.020a great message, you know, about bringing down the temperatures, about stopping the targeting
00:12:54.780of this, that, or the other thing, I just don't think the Russians are going to listen. And if
00:12:58.200he was over there to deliver some kind of a warning, like, hey, you guys better not strike
00:13:02.500into into nato country uh or else we'll do you know x y or z or hey you guys better stop dealing
00:13:08.020with the iranians because that's it that's a real problem for us i just don't think the russians
00:13:12.180have any incentive or reason to to listen to us ratcliffe or whoever we send over at this point
00:13:18.180in order for us to get the russians to take us seriously we would have to end the support that
00:13:23.300we're giving to the ukrainians until the ukrainians say you fought violently and we will diplomatically
00:13:27.940help you guys negotiate something here um but we're done with providing you know the ammunition
00:13:33.700and the weaponry to send your people into the meat grinder this war needs to end you know really for
00:13:37.780the sake of not just europe but for the sake of the entire world on the other hand i again i think
00:13:42.740putin is just being pressured the the russians have lost i was always shocked by how many men
00:13:48.340the russians were losing on a weekly basis whenever i would read the casualty counts but
00:13:52.820the russians are plotting along and again they think this war is existential but putin's under
00:13:57.220a lot of pressure to win it but not win it in a stalemate he's under pressure to win it
00:14:00.980decisively to take back territory to push nato off of his borders and so i think it's not out
00:14:06.180of the question that putin could be convinced that now is the time because of what we have going on
00:14:11.540in the middle east is to do something drastic is to strike in a very very hard way either against
00:14:16.340some of the bordering nato countries that are providing a lot of the logistical support for
00:14:20.740the ukrainians or even bigger and do a limited uh strike a neutron bomb a limited nuclear tactical
00:14:27.060strike on kiev or something like that i think that's less likely but i think that's that that
00:14:32.340um that scenario could take place or they're at least discussing it in russia and again i think
00:14:37.700they're watching to see what we do in the middle east and we're kind of on a razor's edge in the
00:14:42.340middle east as well i hope trump just picks up and leaves but if if the we resume to fight if
00:14:47.540we resume fighting in the gulf in the middle east all over again i do think the israelis are going
00:14:52.260to come to trump and say hey we could solve this with some kind of a nuclear weapon as well so
00:14:56.100Again, the normalcy bias, I think, is really hampering a lot of the analysis that's taking place, just about how high the stakes are here in the states.
00:15:04.800Wow. And everything you're saying, that research is constantly is dead on.
00:15:07.820You can talk for an hour on each little point. We should unpack the Israeli mouthpieces, trying to legitimize nuclear weapons.
00:15:14.840Mark Levin, be like Harry Truman, hit him, Hiroshima Nagasaki.
00:15:19.620Israel's signaling that. You're warning in the last months and months, every time we got a peace deal, Israel's going to attack Lebanon or somebody else.
00:15:25.680So you rail it. We'll move to Israel in a moment because obviously this is linked up.
00:15:29.560When we were in that debate a few weeks ago, it's going to air on the 31st, the America first versus MAGA.
00:15:37.460You basically were continuing to accurately predict what was going to happen.
00:15:42.460And you go back to the point about Putin.
00:15:44.940He says constantly, I've probably seen him say 50 times, I want to know who's in charge because I meet with presidents and CIA directors and secretaries of state.
00:15:52.780And then they say one thing and it's the opposite.
00:15:54.440And he goes, I know it's just bureaucracy, but that bureaucracy now, he's saying, needs to know nuclear weapons will kill you, too.
00:16:00.900We don't want this, but you've moved thousands of nuclear-capable missiles, and then you're launching them at us.
00:16:07.000Every time they come in, we don't know there's not a nuke on it.
00:16:09.720You could sneak attack us, and you have the head of NATO, their military head, what, two years ago, say, yeah, we may sneak attack.
00:17:12.680I say that, and then the national media makes jokes out of it.
00:17:15.280But what would you call these two conflicts now linking up, Ukraine sinking Iranian ships, Ukraine – I mean, clearly this is a regional war in the Middle East with the Houthis and all of it, and then now you've got Russia and this 700-kilometer thing that's linked up.
00:17:29.600I mean, Joe Kent, what would you call this thing we're in now?
00:17:33.760This is the early phases or the beginning of – I would say World War III, maybe World War IV, but this is the beginning of a world war.
00:17:40.340I mean, when you just look at how close these two fronts are, we're talking about Europe, we're talking about the Middle East, and then we're talking about basically everyone who's standing kind of against the American dominance.
00:17:51.840And again, China is who we're supposed to be worried about.
00:17:54.340I think most people agree that we should be worried about China, yet every move that we're taking from the time that we started supporting the Ukrainians and kicking Russia off the SWIFT system to starting the war in Iran with the Straits of Hormuz, the biggest benefactor has been China.
00:18:08.640We just had to move our fleet away from the Pacific, which is actually our border, which is actually our strategic interest, over to fight another war in the Middle East.
00:18:16.060Isn't that the first time pre-World War II?
00:18:18.300Isn't that the first time pre-World War II we have no aircraft carrier over there?
00:18:24.800Any way you slice it or whatever you want to call it, this is the beginning of a world war.
00:18:28.700I think we're in a sweet spot right now.
00:18:30.740I think we have a limited window of opportunity right now to take down the tensions and roll that clock back.
00:18:36.780But we're one miscalculation. We're one stray missile that the Russians thought had a nuclear warhead on it or a member of the IRGC deciding that they're going to use their ballistic capabilities to target one of our ships.
00:18:50.220We're one of those incidents away from slipping into uncontrollable world war.
00:18:55.580well slow down and say that again uh we are there's more and more uncontrolled variables
00:19:03.060and as the pentagon i know uh from the public assessment but also people i talked to
00:19:07.840they told trump they said yeah this might work but it's a gamble we don't like to gamble with this
00:19:12.620and it all leans towards bad to worse so can you explain uncontrolled variables the more you add
00:19:18.180it's like the old ed sullivan show with the guy with the plates and the more plates they added
00:19:22.340spinning the plates i mean we're we've got a lot of plates spinning here yeah i mean that's a good
00:19:28.820analogy because right now just look at the tensions that we have russia ukraine and then
00:19:33.300the tensions that we have in the gulf and we're not doing anything to take the tensions down
00:19:37.940you know i'm not saying that overnight president trump or any world leader right now could solve
00:19:41.940the problems that we have in the middle east they could solve the russia ukraine issue however what
00:19:45.300they could do is they could take down the tension so right now the fact that we still have a massive
00:19:48.980a blockade. We still have troops in a lot of the different countries that have been targeted.
00:19:53.200And we're sitting there telling the Iranians that we're going to crush them economically,0.96
00:19:57.040that we're slowly going to squeeze them and bleed them. Now, I don't think that's going to work as0.97
00:20:00.880far as the sanctions go, but we're telling them that. We've already killed the moderates.
00:20:05.060Us and the Israelis have killed the moderates in that country. They say they won't negotiate0.98
00:20:09.080with us unless we go back to the MOU that we basically already walked away from through our
00:20:13.580own actions, we have been unable to rein in the Israelis. And so we've left all these different
00:20:19.900variables on the Iran theater so that the Iranians could drag us back into the conflict if they
00:20:25.140choose to strike one of our ships or one of our bases, causing a mass casualty event. And then
00:20:28.960we have to respond. And we have to respond in a way that we're not really prepared for,
00:20:32.820because right now Trump is saying the strategy is just squeeze Iran. We control the Straits
00:20:36.700of Hormuz. It's all going to be okay. That's one ballistic missile strike away from being
00:20:40.640completely out the window and us having to escalate. And when we have to escalate because
00:20:44.580we are running low on precision long-distance munitions, we're going to have to take ground
00:20:49.940and get in closer. That's what the Pentagon's going to have to tell Trump. They're going to be
00:20:52.740like, hey, man, hey, sir, you've got two options here. We get in, we hold ground, we hit them with
00:20:57.360our closer stuff, or you hit them with precision nuclear weapons. And that's how these things
00:21:02.000escalate. Same thing, Russia, Ukraine, one stray missile going one way or another, the next thing
00:21:07.540you know one side's using a nuclear weapon or we're having we're seeing a situation where
00:21:12.700ukraine may be overran i think the train's not going to allow for that i think the russians
00:21:15.820have already failed at maneuver warfare which is all the more reason why the russians might go with
00:21:20.280something more high end that they think would be you know kind of an end game and i think if we
00:21:24.580kick off on one theater or the next the other theater will accelerate then to seeing it as an
00:21:29.680opportunity so right now trump's saying he's got everything at an even boil and i don't think he's
00:21:34.920calculating for just the unintended consequences that inevitably happened in any wartime scenario.
00:21:42.000Well, that's right. During the Cold War, people were constantly on the telephone.
00:21:46.260Generals were constantly communicating, even though we were enemies, because they were serious
00:21:50.000and had been through huge wars like you have. And it always goes back to that. I saw the former
00:21:55.360Delta Force commander do an excellent breakdown on Sean Ryan. He said, look, I know these CIA
00:22:01.300people high up. I know these important people. They basically can't find their ass with both
00:22:05.020hands. They don't even know warfare. The EU Commission, all of them, they are literally1.00
00:22:08.660playing in a game. They have no idea. And for three plus years, Biden never talked to the
00:22:13.540Russians. The hotline was dead. I mean, I guess there's some of that happening now,
00:22:17.620but this is just runaway train, total insanity. It's like putting on the burner at your house
00:22:23.800four pans of grease and turning on high and leaving. You're going to get a house fire.
00:22:34.980And if these things kick off, it's going to be very hard to put them back.
00:22:38.280I mean, that's why right now we've just got such a limited window of opportunity where no one's made that fatal move you can't put back in the box.
00:22:45.180So I think this is a time for sober leadership.
00:22:47.500I think this is a time for President Trump to hopefully pick his head up, stop listening to the advisors he's been listening to, get our troops out of the Middle East.
00:22:54.160And then he's got to micromanage our intelligence apparatus and have them stop supporting the Ukrainians and tell NATO that, like, we are not going to be a part of any kind of escalation against Russia.
00:23:05.860And only then, I think, would Russia actually take us seriously.
00:23:08.860And then I think Trump does have the relationship with Putin that maybe he could make something diplomatically happen.
00:23:13.880So there's a lot of opportunity with someone like President Trump, who historically has been willing to make big moves and take big risks in favor of peace.
00:23:22.900Unfortunately, we just haven't seen that Donald Trump yet in this administration, but I hope he returns.
00:23:29.560We can pull up the headline, but it's all over the place.
00:23:31.840A mass purge of generals leaves Pentagon rudderless.
00:23:36.060Obviously, you know a lot of these people.
00:23:37.480Can you tell us what the hell is going on?
00:23:41.480You know, there has been way too many generals at the Pentagon, so it's hard to parse, you know, which ones are good, which ones should leave and which ones shouldn't leave.
00:23:52.280there's definitely some that have been dead weight that we should be getting rid of.
00:23:55.400I think Hegseth made the right call when he kind of went and, you know, read the riot act to the
00:23:59.500generals. However, getting into this war, we did purge a lot of dissenting voices. And I know the
00:24:05.980culture that existed. It's a big, one of the big reasons why I ended up leaving the administration,
00:24:09.960the culture of not tolerating any kind of, you know, dissenting views or putting the dissenting
00:24:14.740views in a box where they're basically having meetings with themselves and, you know, not having
00:24:18.920anything done, giving them busy work, I think that is forcing a lot of leadership out of the
00:24:24.620Pentagon and in the intelligence community as well. So I think we should be very, very concerned that
00:24:29.560the people who are willing to say, hey, this is a bad idea, we can't do this, they're either not
00:24:34.440being listened to or they're being told, hey, go ahead and drop your retirement papers and
00:24:37.840thank you for your service. We'll see you next time. Were you forced out or did you just morally
00:24:45.940decide I've got to make a clean break here and try to stop this war? Well, I left on my own. I was
00:24:51.400the director of the National Counterterrorism Center until the day I walked out and handed in
00:24:55.420my letter of resignation. For me, it was a moral decision. I knew from fighting our wars in the
00:25:00.540Middle East, from losing my late wife in one of the wars in the Middle East, that I morally could
00:25:04.400not be part of another needless war in the Middle East. I was very frustrated when I was a young man
00:25:09.020fighting in the Middle East that there wasn't more veterans, Vietnam veterans in particular,
00:25:12.960who knew better, that were willing to stand up and say this is wrong.
00:25:17.020But then also, too, I was disgusted with the fact that a foreign government forced us into
00:25:21.380another war and no one was just saying it out loud.
00:25:23.980So I felt that it was important to tell the American people the truth and then also hopefully
00:25:40.240And I want people around me that tell me when I'm wrong and that are right.
00:25:44.220I mean, I mean, you do a focus group on what color to paint a business or, you know, but you don't do one for war and you have an echo chamber that just has Armageddon written all over it.
00:28:29.180But you're designed to learn about whatever business you're in, your life, whether it's farming or whether it's the military, whatever it is.
00:28:35.060Since I was a little kid, I just got really interested in the military and history.
00:34:10.120And there's a lot of hardliners because we killed a lot of the moderates inside of Iran.
00:34:13.900There's a lot of the hardliners now who've been saying for years, you can't negotiate with the Americans.
00:34:18.040You can't negotiate with the Israelis.
00:34:20.100You actually have to hit them so hard that they leave the region.0.95
00:34:23.120Otherwise, they're going to keep coming back.
00:34:24.440So right now, I think the only debate inside Iran is do they slowly squeeze the Straits of Hormuz and try and restrict the flow of energy that hurts us economically and hurts Trump politically?
00:34:35.420Or do they actually punch us, hit us really hard that may result in the fight expanding but eventually leads to our retreat even if it takes several years?
00:34:45.080I think there's a lot that are advocating for that in Iran right now.
00:34:47.540And so far, unfortunately, because of our actions, the hardliners in Iran, they've been vindicated.
00:34:53.020And that's who I think the people are starting to rally behind, even the people who probably didn't even like the Islamic Republic and the mullahs before this war started.
00:35:02.140So if we don't actually just pick up and leave, I don't think there's any way that we're going to get a diplomatic deal.
00:35:06.780I think Trump would take a diplomatic deal at this point if he could present it as some kind of a good deal, a win.
00:35:12.860But I don't think the Iranians are going to give him anything better than the MOU.
00:35:16.440They've come out and said that in the last couple of days, like, hey, if the Americans want a deal, it's the MOU.
00:35:20.500we already signed it. But until then, we're not talking about anything else. But the MOU locks us
00:35:25.820into having to restrain Israel. Like the first or second bullet is that we won't allow the Israelis
00:35:31.420to continue to strike deeper and deeper in Lebanon. And so far, we have not restrained the
00:35:35.980Israelis at all. We've sent them some strongly worded letters and social media posts. And we've
00:35:40.320had the vice president go out and kind of read them the riot act. But we have not taken away
00:35:44.180any of the military assistance that we've given them. We are intertwining them and integrating
00:35:48.040them into our research and development within our tech sector and our sensitive capabilities
00:35:52.300within the Department of Defense and our intelligence community. We're continuing to give
00:35:55.820them billions of dollars anytime they want it. So the Israelis have no reason to basically go along
00:36:01.820with the MOU if we were to even try to get back to them. Absolutely. And it's Ben Gavir and Smotrich
00:36:06.920and all of them have said this is ideal and they make jokes. I guess the confidence and arrogance
00:36:12.120is just insane the chutzpah so let's put our thinking caps on here and and we're war gaming
00:36:18.200knowing past behavior and public statements by the lakudniks on what they're going to do they
00:36:23.480seem extremely confident even the whole world's turned against them and then their own former
00:36:28.340intelligence heads and military heads have said we need a new 9-11 that'll make the americans get
00:36:32.980in line and go to full war including nukes i'm worried that an international group could
00:36:36.960assassinate Trump, blame Iran. And Iran's propaganda has paved the path for that. We
00:36:42.460see all the service-to-air missile hype. I'm worried about a nuclear false flag, a giant
00:36:46.260cyber attack. They're kind of pre-laying the groundwork to blame Iran, and they've shot
00:36:51.460their mouth off and have capabilities. So I can't say if it happened, we wouldn't look
00:36:55.140at them as suspects as well, so that they're their own worst enemy, as Trump said about
00:36:59.960Netanyahu a few weeks ago. Declaring a national emergency to secure the United States bulk
00:37:04.940power system. You read it. It's all about, you know, obviously this trade war with Canada. So
00:37:11.520they put a 50 percent on our energy, talking about blackouts, but also gets into cyber attacks.
00:37:15.760But just declaring the emergency kicks in a bunch of other executive orders and PDD 51 could be
00:37:20.480triggered. And I know that's a lot of classified areas of COG, but just in general, what about
00:37:25.380wild cards and seeing Israel's extreme confidence? The only way I would see that war gaming is them
00:38:54.000I mean, you drive around any major American city no matter where you go,
00:38:57.020You can see our crumbling infrastructure. Our airports are slipping below the standards you see in most major European capitals, definitely in the Gulf before the war anyways.
00:39:05.460So, look, I mean, if there was some kind of a false flag attack, I don't think we'd ever get the truth out of it because, you know, these things are usually deeply concealed.
00:39:12.500But also just because we have so many vulnerabilities right now, it would be hard to tell if it actually was one of our adversaries.
00:39:18.600You know, the Russians and the Iranians, et cetera, and the Chinese all have great cyber capabilities.
00:39:23.000They all probably have some capability that could target our grid, but then there's the other issue of would it be a false flag?
00:39:29.900So I think until we actually can get our own house in order and get out of these foreign entanglements and really focus on securing our grid and putting our country first, we're going to be very, very vulnerable to attacks on our grid, on our infrastructure.
00:39:42.000Sure. And we're simpatico on that. Even if companies then don't buy, which a lot of them are saying, we can't buy the diesel. It's not that the diesel isn't there. It's too expensive. Or we can buy the fertilizer. It's so expensive. A lot of farmers are just sitting it out. It has the same effect. And the number is $4 to $8 trillion. The number I saw, though, was the amount of debt and the extensions of those wars is now projected within a few years to be $20 trillion. Just like now, service on the debt is $1.2 trillion.
00:40:10.720They say within two years, it'll be $3 trillion.
00:40:12.720We've passed that kind of banana republic line here, and that's what the economists told Trump.
00:40:18.120They said, yeah, if your economic plan works with innovation and stuff, maybe we don't crash.
00:40:22.620But, I mean, we're now facing bankruptcy here, and forget the military issues.
00:40:29.160I know you can't get into classified Pentagon assessments and things, but I would say, man, you're really your own target.
00:40:33.180Well, I'm smart, but I get to read all the assessments.
00:40:35.700A lot of that's been leaked and come out.
00:40:37.120But, I mean, it's not like Trump didn't get warned about this just for his economic agenda.
00:40:41.080So what can you talk about that's not classified?
00:40:44.300I think something when we talk about the debt, it's important to realize that how dangerous this debt is, especially if we're going to continue to use the dollar as a weapon.
00:40:53.180Like we're trying to do with economic D-Day, like we tried to do with throwing Russia off the SWIFT system.
00:40:57.920If basically our entire financial system right now relies on us being able to print money out of thin air, the only reason we can do that is because we're the world's reserve currency holder.
00:41:05.540So we want everyone to use the dollar.
00:41:08.020So when we throw Russia off the SWIFT system, when we erode the status of the petrodollar, when we say, hey, we're going to go after everybody doing business with the Iranians and secondary sanction them, we are creating an incentive for people to move away from the dollar system.
00:41:22.340And that could seriously damage in a very catastrophic way our own economy here.
00:41:29.000So I think this is probably one of the long game strategies that the Chinese and the Iranians and the Russians are looking at.
00:41:34.940Even if they just keep these wars at a steady boil and we continue to throw around sanctions because we have that normalcy bias, we eventually are going to knock ourselves down without any of these enemies having to fire additional rounds downrange at us, which is probably the smart play.
00:41:50.760And I think that's a big way that the Chinese fight.
00:41:52.920So, again, the weaponization of the dollar and us continuing to spin in an out-of-control way and prioritize foreign wars and foreign aid, I mean, we are just doing the enemy a favor.
00:42:02.420and if we get back into full war with iran that green lights russia and china to make their move
00:42:07.600and china's literally 200 yards off the coast of taiwan doing live fire drills this is this is
00:42:12.600serious so pulling back from this and just looking at the big picture you talk about normalcy bias
00:42:18.700it's not just even the general public the general public it's kind of obliviously being totally
00:42:22.860oblivious bias i guess the term i'm inventing now just oblivion bias totally oblivious bias
00:42:29.680But if you look at the establishment, the elites, I love how they brag, not just the Israelis.
00:42:57.800So this is quite a game of chicken that's going on here.
00:43:02.780And then you have Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Pakistan signed mutual defense pact.
00:43:06.700From my sources, and a few things that leaked 15 years ago or so, I was told Saudi Arabia had a deal with nuclear Pakistan to keep a group of fighter bombers there with their pilots guarded by Pakistan.
00:43:18.520in a huge deal where Saudi Arabia reportedly paid unbelievable amounts of money that if they were
00:43:23.920ever under attack by Iran or Israel that was nuclear, they would then be able to move those
00:43:28.620planes back. Then about three months ago, they did move the planes back. They said 5,000 to 8,000
00:43:34.180Pakistani troops guard them in these warehouses. What do you put 8,000 troops on? And then I said,
00:43:39.460looks to me like they've moved the nuclear umbrella. Then two months later, yeah, we have
00:43:43.860a nuclear umbrella, but it's Pakistan. And now a bunch of other countries want to join it. I said,
00:43:48.320this will be the next move to Israel threatening to nuke Iran. Then you have North Korea threatening
00:43:53.520to nuke Israel if they nuke Iran. And so this has got to be basically checkmate to Israel,
00:43:58.360just like mutually assured destruction with Russia. How big a deal is this new alliance
00:44:04.440that's been set up? I think it's a huge deal because if nothing else, you now see a lot of
00:44:12.300our former partners in the Gulf region, they're coming up with a security arrangement that doesn't
00:44:18.200include us. It's not centered on us. And so I think for all the folks in Washington, D.C. who
00:44:24.500want us to remain the world's sole superpower, we should take notice. I mean, because this war
00:44:28.940in Iran has exposed the fact that we're not the greatest ally, that our bases will end up being
00:44:35.360a strategic liability for you and not an asset. And then everything that you just talked about,
00:44:40.020the way the Pakistanis could give out a nuclear weapon to Saudi Arabia. We know the Turks are
00:44:44.860part of NATO. They have one of the biggest and most capable militaries. The North Korean comments
00:44:49.540are always hard to parse, like, is this just rhetoric? But again, they do have that capability.
00:44:54.520And so we are seeing the rest of the powers of the world kind of coalesce against us and against
00:45:00.000NATO. And so if we're going to allow the Middle East to be a trigger point, we have got to get
00:45:05.980the Israelis under control because every single piece of data that we have says that the Israelis
00:45:10.360have a completely different agenda than we do. And again, the Likud government, the Israelis,
00:45:14.860They feel that all of this, and in many ways it is, it's existential to them.0.97
00:45:19.120Well, that was my next question because you're smart, I'm smart, Israelis aren't dumb.
00:45:23.480If I could predict this and you could predict it, why aren't the Israelis thinking second, third, fourth order consequences?
00:45:29.980You've got the al-Qaeda former leader associated with so much carnage, probably even against your own family.
00:45:36.200And then you now have him making a deal with Russia, Russia coming back in, quote, peacefully.
00:45:43.500I mean, this – I said when Israel announces Greater Israel and puts their dick on the table, this is going to trigger – I predict – this is not hard to predict.0.99
00:45:51.880This was checkers to predict, Joe Ken.0.98
00:45:58.400I think that the Likud Party is going for broke.
00:46:00.700Netanyahu, in a way, is going for broke.
00:46:02.420Like the Likud Party and Netanyahu himself, they benefit from constant war.
00:46:06.880And so the more of these brush fires they can start, they keep their own country in a wartime environment, but they're also counting on the Israeli lobby keeping America involved in this.
00:46:18.160This next trigger point that I think the next war that might break out is going to be between the Israelis and the Turks.
00:46:24.020We're already seeing the saber rattling.
00:46:25.400It's going to take place right there in Syria, and I am no fan of the former al-Qaeda leader.
00:46:29.740I wish we kind of just would have backed away from that situation.
00:46:32.180However, al-Shara is in a very difficult position right now because he was brought to power by a bunch of hardline ISIS, al-Qaeda, hardcore Southie jihadists, and now he's having to basically take airstrikes on the chin from the Israelis.
00:46:46.240And Shara is doing that because I do think he wants stability in his country for his own survival and the survival of his nation.
00:46:51.560He's doing an okay job of integrating the Kurds, and he's at least trying, it seems.
00:46:56.320And he's trying to balance the Israeli situation with the Russians.
00:46:58.940he is absolutely but if if shara uh ends up getting whacked either by the israelis i don't0.58
00:47:04.600think the israelis would be brazen enough to kill him but i do think the more that israel strikes
00:47:09.040inside syria the base that brought shara to power they are going to say no sir this is not what we
00:47:14.440brought you to power for we didn't bring you to power to be a proxy for the israelis absolutely
00:47:19.180not and i think then he could get killed by some of his own people or the israelis they're very
00:47:23.300good at infiltrating these different terrorist groups and there's a lot of different factions
00:47:26.120secret it's not a model they have all their secret muslim brigades so so expanding on that
00:47:31.040what do you make of trump three weeks ago saying he might turn syria loose on lebanon what do you
00:47:35.960make of that i think that was just reckless talk uh because if the syria if the um if the syrians
00:47:42.660were to get involved fighting hezbollah that would embolden that would work against our stated
00:47:47.620outcome of trying to diminish hezbollah's uh stature in lebanon because the lebanese people
00:47:52.980remember just about a decade ago when isis was beating down their doorstep it was the it was
00:47:58.240hezbollah that stood in the breach and fought isis off their off their doorsteps that's why you still
00:48:02.280see a lot of non-shia support inside lebanon for hezbollah so i don't think shara wants to get
00:48:09.340caught in that i think had shara bit on that we would have given him a bunch of money and maybe
00:48:13.180you know ended like rewarded him instantly however he he's a long-term thinker and he didn't take the
00:48:18.640bait so exactly it's a trap to destabilize it all exactly that israel swoops in after everybody's0.99
00:48:23.400exhausted so in closing you have been dead on i'm not kissing your ass just recognize no brag just0.98
00:48:28.980facts what is in the last few minutes we have left what is your advice because you'll definitely see0.99
00:48:34.320this what is your advice to president trump a loyal american a veteran war hero lost your wife
00:48:40.740whole nine yards proven right a dedicated person to america that's what trump needs is real people
00:48:46.100It'll tell them the truth. What is your message? We got three minutes to break to President Trump today. Joe Kent.
00:48:53.000Very simple. He needs to walk away from the Middle East, get our get our troops out of the region.
00:48:57.380It's not worth it to rebuild our bases, get our blockade out of there and then say to the Iranians, we want the Straits of Hormuz open.
00:49:03.480Let's talk about how we can make that happen. We have a lot of leverage.
00:49:06.300We have the sanctions. We have unfreezing of assets and we have real sanctions relief that we can offer as a carrot.
00:49:13.600The Iranians have proven throughout the course of this war to operate in a very methodical and measured way.
00:49:20.560I don't think that they're going to then shut down the Straits of Hormuz once we leave as the aggressor.
00:49:25.200Actually, once we leave as the aggressor, they lose their justification for acting in the way they're acting right now.
00:49:30.060That will incentivize them to take our deal to get the Straits back opened up again.
00:49:34.020And then we can start resetting quietly those relationships there to take the tensions down.
00:49:38.260with russia and ukraine he's got to get control of his intelligence apparatus and make sure that
00:49:43.240we stop giving all support overt covert whatever to the ukrainians message that to putin and say
00:49:49.760we want this war to end and tell nato hey we we shoulder the most burden inside nato we are done
00:49:55.980with this ukraine war if any of you operate to continue to support the ukrainians to continue
00:50:01.100to push us closer to nuclear war there's going to be ramifications this is where we actually need
00:50:05.680exert a lot of control over nato because if we don't do these things we're going to continue
00:50:10.000teeter closer teetering closer to a scenario that we can't walk back and only then through i think
00:50:16.000the sheer force of president trump's will could he actually get in talk with putin take down the
00:50:21.120tensions there's no reason for us to be an adversarial relationship with the russians and
00:50:25.520then we can start focusing back again once again on the pacific and on our own border and we can
00:50:30.960you know basically restore our role as the world's superpower as a rational actor because if we
00:50:37.040continue to behave the way we are right now weaponizing our dollar starting wars we're going
00:50:41.800to have this uh growing confederation with the russians the chinese the iranians and all these
00:50:47.120other countries that are going to start working against us because they will not tolerate a
00:50:51.460superpower behaving in this way so i think president trump has the ability to do it now
00:50:56.040before things get too out of control and the war expands further.
00:51:00.060But his window to actually affect this change, it closes every minute that passes.
00:51:04.980So the urgency is of the utmost importance.
00:52:19.440I still believe that we have predominantly good people within our intelligence community and within the Department of Defense who want to serve our nation.
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