The Alex Jones Show Live - MUST-WATCH： Alex Jones Appears On The Brandon Straka Show!

00:00:00.000 I'm Alex Jones, and I was so naive.

00:00:02.540 They would have the balls to coordinate two trials produced by HBO.

00:00:09.200 Do you consider yourself a conspiracy theorist?

00:00:11.520 CIA created the term where they can't argue with you, they just say conspiracy theorists.

00:00:14.540 Do you ever say things intentionally just because you know that'll go viral,

00:00:18.700 but you don't maybe necessarily believe what you're saying?

00:00:22.260 I'm less interested in what you said than I am about what they did.

00:00:27.140 I still have the taint being demonized.

00:00:29.800 I'm still the guy, you know, don't say his name.

00:00:32.260 I'm still, ooh, watch out for that guy.

00:00:33.940 They really didn't come after you about Sandy Hook until Trump won

00:00:38.180 and that you had had an alliance with Trump or just displayed it.

00:00:41.420 Do you agree with that in your estimation?

00:00:43.280 Oh, my God, that's totally state.

00:00:44.780 They are as evil as I thought.

00:00:46.120 I know I didn't do this stuff.

00:00:47.540 And then they had a billion, $400 million judgment.

00:00:50.560 They said that's not enough for what he's done.

00:00:52.300 we want 2.76 trillion trillions of dollars bloomberg headline billions or trillion trillions

00:01:02.060 to me in my lifetime is the most egregious offense i think against the first amendment

00:01:06.660 maybe that i've ever witnessed i'm telling you i thought i knew how this worked it was like

00:01:10.700 so choreographed that's when i got sick did you actually have to pay that money i'm literally

00:01:15.860 having to borrow money from family to pay my gas bill you can find all the shows on only fans

00:01:20.760 If I fund this operation, I'll do it.

00:01:23.280 I mean, I knew we weren't attacking the Capitol.

00:01:25.200 We were all just, like, standing there.

00:01:26.380 They opened the gates.

00:01:27.300 We were like, oh, they're letting us in.

00:01:28.800 You're like, oh, great, we're letting us in.

00:01:30.760 At the end of the day, Trump doesn't want to be unpopular.

00:01:32.900 Right.

00:01:33.280 So.

00:01:34.300 If he extended an olive branch, would you receive it?

00:01:38.440 I didn't turn against Trump.

00:01:39.800 We're at a point of revolution.

00:01:41.060 Does MAGA become something else?

00:01:42.340 It's not even right now MAGA versus America First.

00:01:45.220 The new thing is, what's post-MAGA?

00:01:46.840 We're currently existing in a system that is not sustainable.

00:01:49.420 The Republican Party has no interest whatsoever in representing their constituent.

00:01:54.380 It's totally turned on the popular.

00:01:55.460 Who would you like to see become president of the United States in 2020?

00:01:58.700 Well.

00:02:07.880 Alex Jones is one of the most influential and controversial figures in independent media.

00:02:13.320 For more than three decades, the founder and host of Infowars has built a massive audience

00:02:17.460 by challenging official narratives, confronting political power, and sounding the alarm about

00:02:22.060 government overreach, globalism, surveillance, and the erosion of individual liberty.

00:02:28.080 Praised by supporters as a fearless truth-teller and condemned by critics as one of America's

00:02:32.520 most dangerous conspiracy theorists, Jones has endured deplatforming, billion-dollar court

00:02:37.840 judgments, bankruptcy proceedings, and relentless efforts to remove him from public life.

00:02:42.580 Yet through every controversy, he has remained an unmistakable force in American politics and media.

00:02:48.120 So today, I sit down with Alex Jones to discuss the rise of the populist right, his complicated relationship with Donald Trump, to put it mildly,

00:02:56.740 the growing divide between MAGA and America First, and whether the movement he helped inspire is still fighting for the principles it once promised to defend.

00:03:04.920 Alex, thanks for sitting with me today.

00:03:05.840 Brandon, great to be here with your podcast. You're doing man on the street, huge debates, regular shows, and now these. Good job.

00:03:11.140 Yeah, brand new, just getting started.

00:03:12.900 And one of the things I like to do with my podcast, it's very new.

00:03:15.600 So like and subscribe right now.

00:03:17.220 Everybody, please, be on the ground floor.

00:03:22.000 Talk to figures like yourself who have been around for a long time.

00:03:24.620 You know, there are a lot of people who probably know your whole story,

00:03:26.920 but I don't know your whole story.

00:03:28.640 Some of my audience doesn't know your whole story.

00:03:30.340 So I just want to start for a couple of minutes.

00:03:32.480 How did you get to be Alex Jones?

00:03:34.780 Where did you start?

00:03:35.400 How did you get into media?

00:03:36.500 What led you to this place?

00:03:37.760 Yeah, I was around before social media existed, before YouTube existed.

00:03:41.140 started doing some few shows as a guest on access to 94 went and took a little classes at access tv

00:03:46.940 here in austin where we're still at we're taping this podcast and then was doing a show by 95 then

00:03:53.800 96 local audio station moved from rock and roll to talk they gave me a weekend show i got good

00:03:59.420 ratings in six months they put me on weeknights got syndicated and the rest is history through a

00:04:04.500 small syndicator and so since I was uh you know 20 years old really 19 I've been on air uh and so

00:04:12.100 I came completely from the grassroots you know multi-decades long overnight success story

00:04:16.620 and I was blessed that my mom you know had a degree in history I might have as a doctor

00:04:21.560 and then I had some other family that had been in army special operations and things that were

00:04:26.300 very awake to how things were working that worked in clandestine operations they never gave me any

00:04:31.000 secret information they were just when i'd see them you know they were just talking about how

00:04:34.380 corrupt the government was that was all bs now you couldn't believe the media and so i kind of

00:04:38.460 grew up around a lot of smart people so i kind of had a boost and a leg up early on to not be as

00:04:43.480 naive uh and so i just started an access tv show um 32 years ago and got a radio show 30 years ago

00:04:50.600 or less or more about 31 years ago and so i've just been and so any new media any new way to

00:04:56.540 get the word out i didn't want to starting about 30 years ago i didn't want to just put out a

00:05:00.560 newsletter or coffee cup the other talk show host i said why don't i make documentaries

00:05:04.600 so i put out some of the first viral documentaries and uh so it's it's it's it's been quite an

00:05:11.680 experience it's been an amazing adventure did you start with political media were you always

00:05:15.380 political yeah day one i wanted to defend property rights i wanted to abolish the federal reserve i

00:05:21.440 wanted to uh cut taxes it was you know pretty much a mainline libertarian as conservative view

00:05:29.240 I had, you know, followed Barry Goldwater and Reagan, you know, before I became president, was more hardcore.

00:05:36.340 And people like Ron Paul and G. Everett Griffin.

00:05:41.120 And so even when I was a teenager, I was reading None Dare Call a Conspiracy by Gary Allen.

00:05:45.600 I was reading, you know, Creature from Jekyll Island.

00:05:49.180 And so my family really weren't members of the John Burt Society.

00:05:53.320 but both my mother's father and particularly my dad's mother,

00:05:59.080 she was an educator, a school principal,

00:06:01.680 they were reading Ayn Rand and they were reading John Byrd's Society stuff,

00:06:06.580 really libertarian, what you call ultra-right-wing stuff.

00:06:09.740 They were intellectuals.

00:06:10.960 So I grew up around, you know, on the bookshelf would be

00:06:13.980 the naked communist, Cleon Skousen.

00:06:16.280 And so before I could even understand it,

00:06:18.020 I was trying to read it because it looked interesting.

00:06:19.940 And, you know, my dad had Zbigniew Brzezinski books laying around.

00:06:21.980 Not that Britson was a good guy, but he was understanding what they were doing.

00:06:26.220 So I kind of, as a seed, got put into fertile ground early.

00:06:30.220 What were your early documentaries about?

00:06:33.240 The first one was America Destroyed by Design because I had the federal documents.

00:06:38.940 I've been to the library.

00:06:41.080 I had, like, the periodicals and magazines showing it.

00:06:43.500 I'd even seen some of it in the newspaper that we were being put under UNESCO and the U.N.

00:06:48.160 and the National Parks being pledged the debt.

00:06:50.580 And people were saying that wasn't true on my radio show in, like, 96.

00:06:54.160 So I got my camera and my cousin, just the two of us,

00:07:00.160 and then we drove around the country for a month

00:07:01.640 and came back and edited a video together.

00:07:06.000 Where our DVDs were coming out was a DVD, huge underground hits,

00:07:09.680 because I told people to make copies.

00:07:11.620 And so it was just everywhere.

00:07:12.760 And I went and showed the U.N. signs.

00:07:14.720 I showed them admitting the U.N. had taken over.

00:07:16.840 and and and and and so it was it was kind of that visual visual element you know pre-internet the

00:07:23.000 internet was around but there weren't videos on the internet 90s like mid-90s yeah kind of well

00:07:27.500 that so this is kind of this is interesting to me but first of all let me ask you this question

00:07:30.940 it probably should come at the end but i'm gonna ask you now do you care what people think of you

00:07:34.180 i personally don't let what people think about me affect what i do when i know something's right

00:07:41.960 A leader, first and foremost, does what's right and doesn't go with the crowd.

00:07:47.320 Now, sometimes the crowd right away is right.

00:07:49.220 Like 80-plus percent of Americans are against the Iran war. 0.78

00:07:51.380 So I'd have to be a leader there. 0.96

00:07:52.360 But I've always been against these offensive wars.

00:07:57.520 But it does get to me when people buy into the corporate media a straw man

00:08:02.420 and then their false belief about me becomes detrimental to overall freedom and liberty.

00:08:07.800 But, no, it's a pleasure to be demonized and lied about in the service of truth.

00:08:12.420 And I'm not really a masochist, but at the same time, no pain, no gain.

00:08:16.260 Or they said in World War II, you know, they knew they were over the target because they were getting the flack from the anti-aircraft guns.

00:08:22.220 And so, no, I've never let what would be most popular or what would make me the most money be my North Star.

00:08:29.280 An example of that is I was on 200 radio stations or so in the heyday of talk radio.

00:08:33.720 a bunch of them 50,000 waters in you know new york and sacramento and dallas and chicago

00:08:40.580 and all of a sudden millions of dollars were coming in i was putting into crew and film

00:08:45.060 editors and expanding you know my operation because i wasn't thinking i'll just get a bigger

00:08:48.840 house and you know a private jet most talk shows are successful do that not that that's bad i

00:08:53.420 thought wow this is seed money to really expand the 9-11 happened and i said day one because i

00:08:58.200 was watching the news they said we blew up building seven the government blew it up but nobody archived

00:09:03.460 it then later they said they never said that later the archives were released and it said that

00:09:07.160 and so we had about 70 of our stations turn me off that month they gave me a chance they said

00:09:12.440 stop saying that or you're off the air and i and i didn't so in from on 200 stations like 35 stations

00:09:16.900 um and uh the network i was on said fine that's what you want to do that's fine and of course

00:09:21.580 money went down like 90 but that was fine uh because it was the truth so anybody ever says

00:09:28.100 i do something for qatari money or israeli money or you know republican money or democrat money

00:09:32.500 It's just not true.

00:09:33.780 That's why I directly sell supplements and T-shirts and films.

00:09:37.040 People that want to support me buy directly from me.

00:09:39.620 But I'm actually proud of the fact.

00:09:42.980 But to me, it was so shocking that 9-11 was an inside job

00:09:47.060 that I wasn't even thinking about the radio stations calling.

00:09:50.280 Because the little network I was on that syndicated me and had such success,

00:09:53.920 and I was like 80% of the revenue, they had 24-hour-a-day shows, dozens of them.

00:09:59.400 They're like, now listen, you can keep doing this if you want,

00:10:02.300 but they're all turning you off.

00:10:03.400 You know, 20 turned you off today,

00:10:04.520 and we're all turning you off tomorrow.

00:10:05.580 But if you choose that, we'll keep you on.

00:10:07.240 We believe in the First Amendment.

00:10:09.260 And they did.

00:10:11.180 But they still gave me a talking to,

00:10:12.580 maybe you should stop.

00:10:14.520 And, but I don't even call it integrity.

00:10:17.680 It was more of a commitment

00:10:19.780 and the fact that it was so exciting

00:10:21.640 and so shocking what happened, to tell the truth,

00:10:24.140 that it wasn't even a question of not selling out.

00:10:26.800 So that's the ultimate in my life

00:10:29.320 in 32 years on air was losing,

00:10:31.480 on the majority of our radio stations in literally weeks

00:10:35.520 because I continued to report what I saw that day.

00:10:39.740 Because I had a home studio then.

00:10:40.960 I had two different TVs on, two different cable channels.

00:10:43.080 They're like, we're going to bring down Building 7

00:10:44.720 and we're going to control demolition.

00:10:47.780 And then they said they never said that,

00:10:49.640 but my listeners all heard it and saw it.

00:10:51.060 And back then, stuff wasn't archived.

00:10:53.280 I mean, and of course, I wasn't even recording at the time.

00:10:55.860 I didn't even think that would happen.

00:10:56.800 But then like five years later,

00:10:58.660 NBC News posted the full archives

00:11:01.040 of that day and there was all those videos

00:11:03.140 of them saying it and they went

00:11:04.620 the show just people asked what the biggest thing

00:11:06.960 we ever did you could say Bohemian Grove

00:11:08.820 you know you could say so many things

00:11:11.020 but you know trading that but

00:11:12.580 when they release in like

00:11:14.800 2005 or 6

00:11:15.940 and it wasn't just

00:11:18.060 it wasn't just NBC

00:11:19.880 CNN released their archives

00:11:22.260 and there it was them going building 7

00:11:24.840 is going to be brought down

00:11:26.560 And then they go, it's down, it's fallen on BBC Two, and it hadn't fallen.

00:11:30.680 And then I had the cops on the ground on PBS and CNN going, get back.

00:11:35.800 They said they're bringing it down.

00:11:37.160 And the media went, Jones says police blew it up.

00:11:39.340 No, they were on the emergency radio that was Red Cross, actually, which you learn is really CIA, not your average Red Cross volunteer, but at the top.

00:11:48.200 They can always go behind enemy lines for, you know, a thousand years or whatever, actually goes back to 800 to the Crusades.

00:11:54.420 We had PBS saying, get back, they're going to bring it down.

00:11:56.560 and then it blows up i talked to the very cops who heard it in their ear so i had them on tv

00:12:02.680 then i interviewed the cops in on video in new york saying yeah they blew it up well now that

00:12:08.920 was pretty powerful i was going to get into 9-11 but we're already there so it might as well i was

00:12:13.380 actually in new york city on 9-11 i watched the towers fall from my rooftop um and because i'm

00:12:18.300 a lunatic my first instinct was to run down to the scene uh you know this was also like you know

00:12:23.040 people didn't really have smartphones and things like that at the time but i grabbed a camera and

00:12:26.660 i went down there at the time i believe we could get as close to the scene as canal street i think

00:12:31.740 that's where they had cut it off and there were police officers there with a barricade

00:12:34.680 and um i had asked you know is any updates about what's going on and the police officer said well

00:12:40.420 yeah building seven just fell down and i remember saying how did that happen and he said well or i

00:12:47.100 think i said was that you know another crash or like what happened and he said well you have to

00:12:51.360 Keep in mind, when buildings fall with that type of force, it's like an earthquake, and that actually caused the building to fall.

00:12:58.060 You're not buying it.

00:12:59.900 No, Larry Silverstein told PBS in a documentary narrated by Kevin Spacey that they made a decision to pull it and gave the order and watched the building come down.

00:13:08.700 And I interviewed Barry Jennings, or a crew I interviewed, interviewed Barry Jennings, the deputy of emergency management.

00:13:13.280 They told him they blew the building up.

00:13:15.180 And a few weeks after we heard the interview, he died.

00:13:17.700 Well, I wanted to ask you the question about do you care what people think of you?

00:13:21.160 Because it's, you know, you really came up at a time where, again, the Internet was not mainstream.

00:13:29.000 Now, I'd say these days a person almost has to be outrageous or controversial to be able to make it in the world of political commentary.

00:13:37.200 But I feel like at the time you were coming up, that wasn't mainstream.

00:13:40.440 In fact, I think you really bucked that.

00:13:43.460 and so I'm always curious like what it is inside somebody uh that gives them that sort of confidence

00:13:49.200 or or what it is to go out and say what other people are not saying and take the hits for doing

00:13:54.320 it I was just following what I believe to be the truth and I wasn't always right but I was most of

00:13:58.700 the time and so to me it was just I'm reporting what what what are the facts so I wouldn't worry

00:14:04.080 about it so many people now because there's not really ever have any problems there's not as much

00:14:09.040 heat for being an edgelord they do it on purpose a lot of them i'm not judging them i don't really

00:14:14.720 resent other people that don't have to pay the cost i paid but but it's still kind of a paradigm

00:14:20.440 conundrum for me or paradox that they people are saying stuff a lot of times that's just

00:14:27.100 haphazard way more radical than i ever said but because the system's so discredited

00:14:31.300 their fault now it's completely safe but i still have the taint of being demonized and i'm still

00:14:38.840 the guy, you know, don't say his name.

00:14:40.760 I'm still, ooh, watch out for that guy.

00:14:42.700 Even though if you actually watch my show,

00:14:44.900 it's much more, I think, well

00:14:46.720 thought out and serious.

00:14:48.640 And that's how it always was.

00:14:51.860 But again, the media

00:14:52.780 would take clips out of context, or

00:14:54.680 used to, I would do a little more satire, a little more

00:14:56.640 comedy, still a tiny part of the show,

00:14:58.880 but they would take that out of context and say, you know,

00:15:00.600 he's serious.

00:15:02.320 So, but again, I really

00:15:04.640 couldn't change anything.

00:15:06.420 To quote Frank Sinatra, yeah, regrets, I've got

00:15:08.540 a few but too few to mention because every mistake i made was a huge learning experience

00:15:14.380 led me into something else yeah but i want to ask you because i look i deeply admire that you say it

00:15:20.040 was the truth that was guiding you but you must have considered like what if telling the truth

00:15:24.400 had cost you your career what if you weren't able to work in media because you were telling the

00:15:29.620 truth was that a risk you were willing to take well i had number one ratings in the local station

00:15:33.100 and I was using it to syndicate by 99.

00:15:36.320 But I luckily built a backup at my house.

00:15:38.440 I was doing a daytime show there too.

00:15:40.340 And they told me shut up about it because of political pressure

00:15:42.620 and then they fired me over it.

00:15:44.340 And I got deplatformed and debanked

00:15:46.740 before they even called it deplatforming or debanking.

00:15:49.300 And I was shadow banned and went through all that stuff.

00:15:52.400 So, again, I'm Machiavellian.

00:15:58.060 I can study Machiavellian things.

00:15:59.920 But when it comes to saying what I want to say,

00:16:01.820 um there i've already researched i already have my views it's not like i'm shooting from the hip

00:16:07.900 it's already there and and so i don't have the bandwidth to to sit there and and bullshit people

00:16:14.420 i i mean i literally don't have it and well so obviously uh it it did turn out you know it worked

00:16:21.140 for you and you were able to build a career and you you you built an audience and you've always

00:16:25.100 had a massive following of people who've been listening to you so like how how did you go from

00:16:28.960 that to starting Infowars and growing Infowars and it became just sort of this behemoth of

00:16:33.860 alternative media oh I get Wikipedia says Infowars started in 99 that's not true

00:16:40.160 um this is wrong they've used to spell a middle name wrong so people think Wikipedia is right

00:16:44.940 it's like as I can't be a poster on Wikipedia about myself so for like a decade they had my

00:16:51.040 middle name spelled wrong and you know when I was born wrong and just a bunch of other crazy stuff

00:16:55.040 um and so wikipedia just as an example says m4 is 799 no vick freeland the deputy fire chief of

00:17:02.700 austin who'd been former air force intelligence uh who was involved in libertarian politics i was

00:17:07.720 having dinner at his house known him for years he would come on as a guest on access tv before

00:17:11.020 i even had a show i'm sitting there with him and his wife and his cockatoo named peaty and i said

00:17:17.120 i need a he goes you need a website you need to have a news site you need to be able to i was

00:17:21.240 He's like, oh, I don't know how to do it.

00:17:22.100 Oh, it's easy, and you can just HTML, post a few articles like Art Bell does

00:17:26.240 or a picture, you know, of what you're covering today.

00:17:29.220 And I said, about a month later, we're having dinner again at some restaurant

00:17:32.660 after a march, a rally downtown, and he goes, we're like at a second-minute rally.

00:17:37.980 I still remember it.

00:17:38.500 We're at a barbecue place.

00:17:39.340 He goes, that's it.

00:17:40.700 Come to my house tonight.

00:17:42.000 We're going to get a URL.

00:17:43.500 So I'm sitting there at his house at like midnight.

00:17:45.780 We're smoking cigars and drinking scotch, and he's like,

00:17:48.560 you can sleep on the couch over here.

00:17:49.620 You know, his wife's running to bed. 0.99

00:17:50.780 Such a cool guy. 1.00

00:17:52.240 Tried to get him on like six, seven, eight years ago.

00:17:53.700 He's retired out in Bathroom.

00:17:54.700 I didn't know he's alive now.

00:17:55.820 And he goes, you know, I was in Air Force Intelligence in Vietnam.

00:17:58.740 He goes, this is an information warrior.

00:18:00.700 And he goes, let's get the name InfoWars.

00:18:02.360 Let's see if it's available.

00:18:03.400 He went to see InfoWars.

00:18:04.560 It wasn't available.

00:18:05.560 He goes, let's do InfoWars.

00:18:07.120 And he sat there for like $10 and registered it, gave it to me.

00:18:11.060 And for the next six months, he would tune in and I'd call him and say, post this article

00:18:16.380 and this photo where he would recommend it.

00:18:18.200 And after about that time, he goes, son, you need to sell an advertiser.

00:18:21.360 You need to get somebody else to do this.

00:18:22.060 My wife's sick of me doing this. 1.00

00:18:23.420 We still hung out some after that.

00:18:24.760 But, you know, and he was, like, writing articles for Media Bypass and, you know, the spotlight and all this stuff.

00:18:30.520 He was an active guy.

00:18:31.940 But that's where InfoWars came from was the Big Freeland.

00:18:34.800 And it just grew.

00:18:36.380 Yeah.

00:18:36.960 Quickly?

00:18:38.100 I mean, you know, the first year or so, it was just me posting stuff.

00:18:43.460 Did it start with video?

00:18:44.400 Were you doing a show?

00:18:45.240 No.

00:18:45.520 I mean, oh, my God, video was like, almost no one had videos.

00:18:48.780 It was like little GIFs.

00:18:52.100 The first time I got video was like in 98.

00:18:55.160 And I go down to Texas Capitol, and they're trying to pass a gun restriction.

00:18:59.060 And they literally had these black kids up there going, I'm a gang member. 0.83

00:19:01.800 I'll kill you. 1.00

00:19:02.520 Pass this.

00:19:03.340 Take the guns.

00:19:03.980 And I walk outside the committee room, and the guy, like a villain, is going 100, 200, 300, 400,

00:19:12.660 counting money to the guys.

00:19:14.540 And I'm like, oh, bribery caught on tape.

00:19:17.180 And then I was talking to my new web guy, and we contacted some web streamer,

00:19:22.120 and it was just like a minute-long video.

00:19:23.860 And it was like, oh, yeah, you could have 10,000 views for like $2,000.

00:19:28.600 We signed the contract, and a week later they call and go, it's $40,000.

00:19:33.240 It had like a million views or something.

00:19:34.860 And the NRA linked to it.

00:19:36.020 It was on Fox News, everywhere.

00:19:37.500 So I was one of the first to put out a viral video that was that bribery thing.

00:19:41.260 But then I did do it for years because I couldn't pay for it.

00:19:44.540 And so it wasn't until YouTube came around, there were file-sharing networks, other things.

00:19:49.540 People grabbed stuff from my Access show.

00:19:52.180 My documentaries got re-uploaded places.

00:19:54.920 But, I mean, until YouTube came around, what, 2002, 2003, whatever it was?

00:20:00.320 But YouTube was revolutionary.

00:20:02.580 Yeah.

00:20:03.260 Because then it was off the races.

00:20:05.160 Yeah.

00:20:05.420 Because then I could have a camera in studio.

00:20:08.920 I could sit there and show you the stuff I was doing.

00:20:10.400 I could play clips.

00:20:11.080 and so but but even before youtube they had google video like i made a film in in 2007 and

00:20:17.460 youtube was already around but google video was still there called in game it had like 100 million 0.54

00:20:22.180 views uh because there's no no competition like fat ladies on treadmills and cat videos right

00:20:27.580 and it had like 100 million views and then one day was just gone they didn't ban it they just

00:20:31.320 ended google video uh so right place right time you know whole nine yards were people making money

00:20:38.740 on YouTube? Was it

00:20:40.800 monetized? No. That came later,

00:20:43.020 right? It came a little later, yeah.

00:20:44.560 I don't remember all the exact dates, but

00:20:46.340 again, they say

00:20:48.220 necessity is the mother of invention. Sure.

00:20:50.660 And so I was always just trying to reach new people.

00:20:53.260 Well, you have a reputation

00:20:54.700 for

00:20:56.480 saying outrageous, flamboyant

00:20:59.040 things. Do you consider yourself a conspiracy

00:21:01.000 theorist? People say that about you.

00:21:02.820 Conspiracy theory is a word they created

00:21:04.800 in 64 to counter Jim

00:21:06.820 Garrison and the investigation

00:21:08.700 into Kennedy. It's declassified. It was declassified

00:21:10.540 in 76 in the Frank Church committee hearings

00:21:12.620 that the CIA created the term

00:21:14.480 where they can't argue with you, they just say conspiracy theory.

00:21:16.540 Or like, that person's crazy.

00:21:18.280 Out of all the horrible Sandy Hook questions you've asked the right one,

00:21:20.460 I'm not guessing your answer is true. Harris is doing his

00:21:22.460 live show right now, and I know this is a taped interview.

00:21:24.640 Remind me after this,

00:21:26.460 he did a couple years ago

00:21:27.880 a Google search from the time

00:21:30.300 Sandy Hook happens 14 years ago

00:21:31.940 up until right before Trump gets elected in 2016.

00:21:35.580 And you do

00:21:36.500 a Google search, Alex Jones, Sandy Hook, 0.69

00:21:38.100 zero then Hillary um is running against Trump and they want to demonize Trump so they run a TV ad

00:21:46.960 they said like 25 million dollars of ads the last week of the election saying Alex Jones doesn't

00:21:51.720 think Sandy Hook happened he's this dark heart horrible person five second clip he's saying yeah

00:21:55.220 I think it's all synthetic green with some color and it didn't work so then Trump wins then they

00:22:01.640 do two years of demonizing me every day saying I peed on graves no one ever peed on graves

00:22:06.080 Sandy Hook families asked for trillions of dollars.

00:22:09.320 Bloomberg headline.

00:22:10.500 Billions or trillions?

00:22:11.740 Trillions.

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00:23:12.240 So, but that, I mean, all the conspiracies came true, so now it's a badge of honor.

00:23:16.960 It's kind of a title.

00:23:20.600 But you've got people who think the earth is flat, that this isn't even real reality.

00:23:25.500 I'm not one of those people.

00:23:26.580 So, I mean, I would call that kind of just like a person that doesn't, you know, believe in empirical evidence or science or testing anything.

00:23:33.300 Doesn't mean it's not good to question things, but, no, I mean, I always get accused of the flat earth and reptoids.

00:23:39.660 That's other people.

00:23:40.460 Right.

00:23:41.700 Because I became kind of the archetypal conspiracy theorist.

00:23:44.560 So whether I like the term or not, I mean, to me, it's just objective how somebody sees it.

00:23:49.760 I am, you know, Fauci, I am the science.

00:23:53.200 I mean, you can say if anybody's conspiracy, you'd have to say it's me.

00:23:55.580 is it something that you've leaned into because you strike me as somebody who's incredibly savvy

00:24:01.000 when it comes to marketing obviously you're aware this is your reputation do you ever say things

00:24:05.740 intentionally just because you know that'll go viral but you don't maybe necessarily believe

00:24:10.600 what you're saying you ever say things just to be outrageous i say stuff all the time to go viral

00:24:15.940 it's true i got plenty of stuff that's true without having to invent stuff truth stranger

00:24:19.680 fiction so no i've never said something that's not true on purpose what happens is i'll do an

00:24:27.980 hour-long rant on atrazine in the water when it's doing the frogs and they'll take 10 seconds of me

00:24:32.920 making a joke and make that the thing so it's kind of their curation of what i've done even

00:24:39.060 though that's not really what i did and its full compendium is is is a distortion so no i mean

00:24:44.780 there's so much real stuff i don't need to invent stuff and i never really thought about that there

00:24:49.560 It was, I mean, like, I researched, like, two hours last night, about two hours this morning, and I covered maybe 20% of what I had on my desk.

00:24:59.340 And it was all fantastical.

00:25:01.860 Like, the trend is soon, within a few years, most funding won't be on silicon chips.

00:25:08.420 It'll be on synthetically grown human brain tissue to power the AI data centers because you don't have to super cool it.

00:25:15.800 And it operates much better and uses less power.

00:25:18.980 Like, the big new data centers are like science fiction labs with brain tissue running.

00:25:26.580 I mean, I remember reading, like, MIT 20 years ago,

00:25:30.220 oh, yeah, we got human-animal hybrids, you know, 0.58

00:25:32.700 but they don't have rights because the humanoids were growing in tanks or 1% cow. 0.76

00:25:37.700 I mean, I could pull that up for you.

00:25:38.880 No one cares about fabulous Buck Rogers, dystopic, you know.

00:25:43.720 I mean, I can give you thousands of totally insane things we can go prove.

00:25:47.800 And people love an Easter egg hunt, though.

00:25:49.440 They love, like, I noticed people would take clips of me, like, here's the FEMA camp document, and here's the plan, and here's the military leakers saying they're planning for gun confiscations.

00:25:58.380 Wouldn't say they were going to do it.

00:25:59.380 The military was giving me this to stop it, you know, say in 98 or something.

00:26:04.180 I got so many secret documents.

00:26:06.480 And then when I showed them proof and documents, it would just, you know, get a million views.

00:26:09.820 but somebody else would take a clip and just have me saying they got camps ready for you

00:26:15.100 that was two minutes long and we get you know 10 million 20 million views all because it was not

00:26:20.740 based with facts right like people actually when i'm like here's this fact here's this here's the

00:26:25.420 bill here's the legislation here's the all but if it's just up there kind of um it's like esoteric

00:26:33.160 or gnostic in in that oh i saw virgin mary and my burned piece of toast you know it's like they

00:26:38.820 love the thing that can't be solved.

00:26:41.120 They love the rumor that they don't have to

00:26:43.140 even look into. It's a weird human trait that

00:26:45.100 I don't really have. Well, and you've turned out

00:26:46.940 to be right about a lot of things, and you've

00:26:49.080 taken a lot of hits along the way, but in

00:26:51.020 the end, a lot of the things that

00:26:53.000 you have said in the past that people called

00:26:55.120 you crazy for actually came to

00:26:57.120 fruition or turned out to be true.

00:26:58.860 Well, yeah, that's nice to say, but I'd love to give

00:27:01.020 myself credit. Perfect example.

00:27:03.600 I'm sure you've seen this, because

00:27:04.860 you're an informed guy with your

00:27:07.080 finger on the pulse.

00:27:08.820 Without looking, and I use that term a lot because I'm not looking for this.

00:27:12.920 When I'm looking at other news and stuff, even whether it's Instagram, X, wherever it is,

00:27:17.240 almost every day I see clips of me going,

00:27:19.900 they'll soon make you stand six feet apart and wear a mask and the ballgames will be closed.

00:27:24.420 And the lockdown is meant to make you then take an experimental shot that will destroy your immune system.

00:27:29.320 Well, I had Operation Lockstep from 2010.

00:27:33.240 John Hopkins, CIA, Bill Gates funded saying they would do that.

00:27:36.060 I had BioShield, this bioweapons funding that Bush W. got passed in 2005 that said this.

00:27:47.260 And then later I learned from Rodney Howard Brown, who owns a big megachurch, he showed it on air.

00:27:51.360 In 2005, he got their BioShield warning and the manuals and a mask to show his congregation to scare him. 0.51

00:27:59.920 Didn't say that, but it's what it was for.

00:28:01.340 And it said, you will stay six feet apart.

00:28:03.460 You can't go to church.

00:28:04.940 You go to the grocery store.

00:28:06.060 and we're having a lockdown and 14 days to slow the spread.

00:28:10.440 And so to me, I'm like, look, these documents, before it ever happened,

00:28:14.020 I said, this is the plan.

00:28:15.680 But smart people, smarter than me when it comes to manipulating,

00:28:18.740 because I'm just a straight shooter, I'm kind of autistic,

00:28:21.300 but even people on my side would go, don't put him out showing all the documents.

00:28:24.280 Show him predicting it, and that's 10 times bigger.

00:28:27.660 So the videos where I show how they said it, how they did it, here's the proof.

00:28:31.360 Here's the Pentagon admitting it'll be a psychological warfare to train us.

00:28:34.360 no one cares about the 30 minute thing with all the proof they love the two minute where it sounds

00:28:39.400 like i'm nostradamus right so it's it's not necessarily you're saying like it's not like

00:28:44.020 that you're you know psychic miss cleo or something like that you're there's actually

00:28:47.560 reasons why you say what you say but people are more interesting right because here's the thing

00:28:52.980 i i was never a psychologist i i was always kind of you know extroverted but when it came to doing

00:28:59.500 things introverted into that i had my view and i just wanted to tell people so i was never thinking

00:29:03.560 about how do they receive it or what is i'm just like you know i'm firing it out and then as i

00:29:07.440 began to study over the years and read war game plans and stuff they'll do all these tabletop

00:29:12.180 exercises and war games building towards something when they finally do their the final one that war

00:29:16.660 game is so they have the battle plan with them that if they get caught with it they go this is

00:29:20.300 just a war game well all war games are really an attack plan and and and so when i tell people

00:29:25.980 some of them don't get what i'm saying i'm i'm saying that i have learned how scripted so much

00:29:31.820 of these big events are because they've got war games that always match exactly what they actually

00:29:36.640 did and what it is is a script for the psyop they admit covid was run by the major defense

00:29:41.340 departments and psychological warfare people after it happened they admitted oh we scared you for your

00:29:45.060 own good but but they admit it was all a psyop it was six feet apart all that but but but i don't

00:29:49.620 need them to tell me that now the rockefeller foundation said with operation lockstep 10

00:29:54.220 years before covid they would do this so you build this massive operation very controversial

00:30:00.140 you'll figure. Look, I'm not going to ask you

00:30:02.100 any specific questions about Sandy Hook because I think

00:30:04.180 it's probably kind of an ongoing... I don't mind.

00:30:06.000 You just say what you can

00:30:08.260 or want to say it because

00:30:09.980 I'm less interested in what

00:30:12.200 you said than I am about

00:30:14.200 what they did afterwards.

00:30:16.060 That to me is a lot more interesting.

00:30:18.840 And so the first thing I wanted...

00:30:20.160 Somebody had told me recently,

00:30:22.000 this week actually, and I had not heard

00:30:24.040 this before, that they really didn't come

00:30:26.000 after you about Sandy Hook

00:30:28.000 until Trump won and that

00:30:30.000 you had had an alliance with trump or displayed do you agree with that oh 100 so that's really

00:30:35.860 what it was about in your estimation yeah tell me i'm out of all the horrible standing questions 0.56

00:30:41.160 you've asked the right one i'm not kissing your ass it's true harris is doing his live show right 0.79

00:30:44.460 now i know this is a taped interview remind me after this he did a couple years ago a google 0.79

00:30:50.140 search from the time sandy hook happens 14 years ago up until right before trump was elected 2016

00:30:55.900 and you do a google search alex jones sandy hook zero now think about that this is 100 archive

00:31:03.720 and then how then am i the sandy hook guy okay so i did two or three interviews and one debate

00:31:12.420 about it when the internet didn't think it happened it was totally viral and then no one

00:31:17.420 ever cared and then i found out that some of the professors and people involved a few years into it

00:31:23.200 were kind of kooky when people would try to get me to cover it i'd say i'm done with that i think

00:31:28.340 it happened this is years this is like 2014 i'm like no no i don't want to talk about it okay

00:31:34.220 so it's kind of like the charlie kirk assassination thing it's just this tar baby you don't know

00:31:38.380 whatever and so then hillary um is running against trump and they want to demonize trump so they run

00:31:49.120 a tv ad they said like 25 million dollars of ads the last week of the election saying alex jones

00:31:54.220 doesn't think sandy hook happened he's this dark heart horrible person five-second clip he's saying

00:31:57.820 yeah i think it's all synthetic green with some color and it didn't work so then trump wins then

00:32:04.240 they do two years of demonizing me every day saying i peed on graves no one ever peed on graves

00:32:08.320 they use it to raise money for gun control groups they do all this i'm like i think it happened i

00:32:13.140 think it happened they still sue me and then have judges find me civilly liable in texas and

00:32:19.720 connecticut then hbo produces both trials make up on the judges i couldn't say this i couldn't

00:32:25.760 say that i'm already guilty and i didn't realize how synthetic i knew it was fake but not totally

00:32:29.940 fake like truman show level till the second trial in connecticut and they did a month apart so

00:32:35.200 they've been suing for four years but now the trials right before the midterms are like lined

00:32:38.740 up exactly together four years ago. And I'm sitting there, and I remember the judge would

00:32:45.840 read, here's the 20-something things you can't say. I'm innocent. I'm this. I've already been

00:32:50.340 found guilty. This is wrong. I don't have any money, which was true at the time. It was literally

00:32:54.200 negative. They were saying I had hundreds of millions of dollars, which I never had. And I'm

00:32:58.560 sitting up there. When you're up with the judge, you're right by him. So I'd seen the script and

00:33:02.180 thinking, God, those are the things who wrote that. It looks like a script. I'm sitting there

00:33:05.620 during being interrogated a month later

00:33:07.780 in Connecticut, I got a good memory,

00:33:09.780 especially a month later, I'm going,

00:33:11.580 and I'm sitting there

00:33:13.860 and I get nauseous. I'm normally pretty

00:33:15.700 tough, but when it hit me, oh, you

00:33:17.680 were naive. This is 100% scripted.

00:33:20.260 It literally came out. The CIA ran it

00:33:21.780 in court. The DOJ funded

00:33:23.820 it. I mean, this all came out now,

00:33:25.700 but I remember, and I'm

00:33:27.660 being interrogated by their former Justice Department

00:33:29.780 prosecutor who's sitting there interrogating

00:33:31.960 me, and they thought they'd gotten me when they saw me

00:33:33.680 looking sick and they were like oh is the question getting him and it wasn't that it was that

00:33:37.520 i'm going wait a minute i saw that oh my god it's an actual script and that was when i was like i'm 0.72

00:33:43.640 alex jones and i was so naive they would have the balls to coordinate two trials produced by hbo

00:33:49.500 and and and and so so it's just such a wake-up call i didn't feel sorry for myself i felt like

00:33:57.320 i was an incredible historical moment really like like it was it was almost like good like oh my god

00:34:02.040 that's totally staged they are as evil as i thought i know i didn't do this stuff i wasn't

00:34:06.240 perfect but the fact they were so villainous made me really strong i got nauseous for a few minutes

00:34:10.440 they were asking me questions and i kind of went wait wait okay they are they're worse than you

00:34:13.740 thought you're gonna make it through this this isn't okay it's worse than you thought but see

00:34:18.100 they are bad it's not you because i was like trying to if i could tell myself i did something

00:34:23.940 wrong then i can fix it so i was like yeah i did cover that some and maybe that was mean i said but

00:34:29.340 nothing they said i said and then i found out they raised 300 million off my name with the

00:34:32.860 charities bloomberg finance it all then the onion comes in financed by him says they bought the

00:34:38.080 company when they didn't fake auctions still didn't get the company it's in limbo i mean it

00:34:42.420 was like it was like it was total vindication and verification that everything i had ever thought

00:34:48.720 was even worse than i thought so your original question i'm sorry i did it no i mean this is

00:34:54.620 exactly what i want to talk about is how corrupt the system is how fake it is and why they did

00:34:58.560 this to you i mean i was talking about was it trump that inspired them and i look yeah it was

00:35:02.840 about saying he did all this horrible stuff that wasn't true and then he's trump's brain

00:35:06.840 trump won't repudiate him right and it was about once he repudiated then oh god he admits he's

00:35:13.160 wrong and so for me telling the truth about it wasn't about defending even trump it was like he

00:35:17.880 was never involved in it yeah i mean literally they put in 22 minutes of evidence of me talking

00:35:21.740 about sandy hook they had me one time i i named out of the four families that sued me one guy one

00:35:27.500 time and i responded to a youtube video where you know he's sitting there laughing everything

00:35:32.540 and they go hey there's the they go hey there's the cameras he goes oh well which was you know

00:35:37.540 i get it maybe he's having fun now he's gonna talk about his dead kids you turn

00:35:41.140 that that can be thing i'm not even saying that robbie parker was okay i covered a youtube video

00:35:46.720 with like 40 million views or whatever it was it was a huge story and i simply covered it

00:35:52.200 and then i got so big they attached themselves to me raised 300 million dollars off me with

00:35:58.160 charities i didn't know this till later and the cia ran the blueprint and the doj funded it we

00:36:05.160 have the documents we depose people they funded the lawsuits the fbi ran it out of connecticut

00:36:10.700 and then they had a billion 400 million dollar judgment um and then they got up and this doesn't

00:36:19.340 sound real so just search engine this and put it on screen they said that's not enough for what

00:36:23.100 he's done we want well remember here so we want 2.76 trillion guys search it sandy hook family

00:36:31.380 is always the families really democrats in this whole thing most families assume me uh is it 4.6

00:36:37.480 point 7 or 4.7 point 6 sandy hook families asked for trillions of dollars a bloomberg headline

00:36:44.200 billions or trillions trillions we're talking about it was funny the number they asked for

00:36:48.940 was the gdp of india that year the most popular but the point was they wouldn't let me say i was

00:36:54.940 innocent they told the people i was already guilty the the jury and then they would have like this

00:36:59.820 guy that talked like thurston howell from gilligan's island he'd go jones is the total of the

00:37:04.100 hundred 360 million the bank and the most i ever had the bank was like 10 million and and and so

00:37:10.180 So, yeah, see the headline?

00:37:11.200 2.75 trillion in damages.

00:37:14.180 See, it doesn't sound real.

00:37:15.460 And that's the Connecticut news.

00:37:17.200 It's in the Bloomberg, everything.

00:37:20.040 And the point is, it's like the giant Oz when it's like this big green head.

00:37:24.500 I am the great and powerful Oz.

00:37:26.320 Bow down before me.

00:37:27.820 And it was meant to scare everybody else.

00:37:29.340 And then I figured it out.

00:37:30.540 It did.

00:37:32.220 It did scare everybody else.

00:37:33.560 I mean, I think the way your case was handled and the judgment that came down,

00:37:37.500 I think to me in my lifetime is the most egregious offense, I think, against the First Amendment, maybe that I've ever witnessed.

00:37:45.180 It's absolutely horrifying.

00:37:47.040 But I want to get clarification on one thing.

00:37:48.820 The plaintiffs in that case, was it just parents or was it other were there other people, too?

00:37:53.220 No, no, it was the head counsel, the head lawyer for the FBI in Connecticut.

00:37:59.240 And see, I didn't know four or five years ago, whenever the Connecticut trial was, they had the Texas one like August.

00:38:04.780 And then like September, October, they had the Connecticut one.

00:38:07.280 It was all coordinated.

00:38:09.240 And I forget his name, but he's like a ball-headed guy.

00:38:13.560 Never said his name.

00:38:14.320 None of my crew ever said his name.

00:38:15.920 Even though it was a show trial, she had to let us ask a few questions or people would wake up.

00:38:20.340 So my lawyer gets up to Norm Patterson.

00:38:21.840 He goes, Alex, did you ever say your name?

00:38:23.820 He goes, no.

00:38:24.560 He was a crew member to say his name.

00:38:25.600 No.

00:38:26.140 You ever been on his website?

00:38:26.980 No.

00:38:28.900 And I didn't know who he was until he sued me. 0.97

00:38:31.240 He was the first sewer.

00:38:33.700 And he said on the stand, I went and got the families.

00:38:36.240 I got them to sue through Koskoff.

00:38:37.780 And Koskoff is a big Democrat, New York, Connecticut law firm.

00:38:41.520 Senator Blumenthal basically runs it.

00:38:43.560 So I'm telling you, I thought I knew how this worked.

00:38:46.340 It was, like, so choreographed, that's when I got sick.

00:38:50.240 So I'm like, ask my lawyer, Evan Kanego, why did they put that FBI guy on to say he did all this?

00:38:54.660 And he goes, I don't know.

00:38:55.980 Then later, when it leaked in the federal filings that they'd funded it and run it, they were hiding it in plain view.

00:39:03.180 They're like, oh, you don't worry about the FBI running it.

00:39:05.220 Here he is.

00:39:05.880 And they spent like an hour about how the FBI sued me.

00:39:09.340 I was like, God, the FBI was behind this?

00:39:10.980 I was just like, I wonder why.

00:39:12.580 I never said that.

00:39:13.160 I didn't know who he was.

00:39:14.860 And then my lawyer goes, well, how'd you get harassed?

00:39:16.500 He goes, one guy called me to see if I worked there.

00:39:19.800 And I talked to him once.

00:39:21.360 So I go back during the break.

00:39:22.860 And there's the guy from the local blog.

00:39:24.280 He goes, yeah, that's me.

00:39:25.340 I've been trying to go on your show for years.

00:39:26.880 See, I did call him that one time.

00:39:29.000 I go, what'd you say?

00:39:29.760 He goes, just what he said.

00:39:30.540 I asked, is he a real FBI agent?

00:39:32.940 That's the harassment somebody else calls him?

00:39:36.180 But it was like the Twilight Zone.

00:39:37.780 They're asking him on the stand, we take a lunch break or whatever,

00:39:41.560 and here's the guy going, no, that's me, that's me.

00:39:43.440 Then I looked the guy's stuff up.

00:39:45.180 They said that guy was a co-conspirator with me

00:39:47.880 because you've got to have somebody in the state

00:39:53.600 to connect you to the outsider, however it works.

00:39:56.000 And so the guy had figured that out.

00:39:57.260 They dropped him later.

00:39:58.680 But they said I was a co-conspirator with a guy I'd ever met,

00:40:01.840 a blog i never read and then they worked out for the judge to get it all out there me him all of it

00:40:07.700 and we're wondering why are they doing this it was all to cover the basis of the fraud

00:40:10.820 and now it's the same law firm going after facebook not that facebook's perfect but they

00:40:16.580 wouldn't fully roll over to the adl so now they're going to get destroyed so these guys are special

00:40:21.140 government doj cia technicians and i say they're cia they work under it and and they go into special

00:40:28.140 courts they control and it is 100% rigged. Well, when I say your case and what you went through

00:40:34.240 is especially horrifying, you know, I think most of my audience, I think most of your audience

00:40:39.420 understands the concept that people are, there are people who are Trump deranged. There are

00:40:44.180 corrupt government actors. There's corruption in all these different aspects of the courts and the

00:40:48.700 three letter agencies and everything. But until you're actually in a situation like this, and this

00:40:53.940 is not about me i'm going to make a very very brief anecdote but those of us who went through

00:40:58.200 january you should talk about you because well no they've heard they've heard your personal

00:41:02.980 experience is the greatest form of proof yeah i mean you didn't go in the building i was there

00:41:06.720 with you right you were did nothing and they tried to put you in prison right i mean it's the same

00:41:10.260 thing but i can tell you every one of us who went through january 6th shared the same experience was

00:41:14.840 which was that when we were dealing with the fbi and when we were dealing with the prosecutors

00:41:19.660 it was nothing but non-stop lies and corruption but we all believed that when the day came that

00:41:24.520 we got to go before a judge we would finally be seeing somebody with some sort of common sense

00:41:28.580 who would look at this and go like this isn't even a case what are you doing and that moment

00:41:32.920 of dread that you described that's what we all felt the first time we went before a judge we

00:41:36.780 realized the judges were in on it too and that it doesn't matter what level uh a person has risen to

00:41:41.920 in their career they are just as prone to be corrupted by whether it's trump derangement or

00:41:47.660 whatever their ideology is. Well, they get promoted

00:41:49.720 if they're like that. Well, that's true, too. I mean,

00:41:51.640 take Owen Troyer. He didn't go in the building.

00:41:53.860 He's with me saying, don't go in.

00:41:56.020 And then when they indict him,

00:41:58.100 we get the indictment and says,

00:41:59.700 Owen led the attack into the Capitol

00:42:01.600 and he didn't go in the Capitol.

00:42:04.180 And they show that the judge

00:42:05.760 doesn't care. Like,

00:42:07.580 if we committed perjury, we go to jail.

00:42:09.680 They just completely make stuff up.

00:42:11.820 Right. So your case results in

00:42:13.740 what I believe is the largest civil judgment

00:42:15.840 ever against yeah uh pharma companies that kill tens of thousands of people with opium drugs

00:42:20.520 they get lesser judgments than i did for speech for for what whatever you were alleged to have

00:42:26.820 made up being mean to the families of dead children yeah when all i ever did was a few

00:42:31.760 interviews people questioning yeah now this is where it gets a little bit confusing um and again

00:42:36.140 i just only say what you can or want to say but uh it gets very confusing in the legal system okay

00:42:42.380 so a judgment is against you and then i think you have appeals and there's this and there's this

00:42:46.020 so where does it actually stand and did you actually have to pay that money or what does

00:42:49.960 that look like okay how many guys search engine ask grok or how many gallons of bloods a human

00:42:57.440 got three gallons two and a half gallons what's an average how many gallons of blood so let's say

00:43:01.180 i got three gallons of blood they wanted 5 000 gallons of blood right so it's like saying do

00:43:07.880 Do you want to be killed by a firing squad of 100 bullets or 5,000?

00:43:11.180 Yeah.

00:43:11.800 I mean, when they did the ruling, as the judge said,

00:43:16.720 when I was on the stand, because I wasn't following her rules,

00:43:18.880 I was saying I was innocent, so she told Norman, close chambers,

00:43:21.420 she said, I'm going to arrest him tomorrow.

00:43:24.120 He said, get on the plane, get out of here.

00:43:25.840 So I didn't defend myself on the cross-examination I left.

00:43:29.620 And so two days later, whatever day it was, like Friday or whatever,

00:43:32.460 I'm sitting there watching live on air on my show,

00:43:34.340 and I started laughing

00:43:35.660 because the most I ever had in the bank

00:43:39.180 was $10 million

00:43:39.660 when I got a $9 million Bitcoin donation.

00:43:42.140 I had like a two-bedroom lake house

00:43:44.880 that I lived at, you know, years ago,

00:43:47.320 which I love, a little fishing shack.

00:43:49.240 I mean, literally a bungalow.

00:43:50.920 And then I had the house I'm in,

00:43:51.920 like a four-bedroom house.

00:43:54.600 And I bought a little farm

00:43:56.160 back when I thought I had some money.

00:43:57.760 And it usually had like a million bucks

00:43:59.300 in the bank or something.

00:44:00.520 And no stocks, no bonds.

00:44:01.840 and then I got this $9 million Bitcoin donation

00:44:06.880 right when all this started.

00:44:07.920 And still, we don't know who that was.

00:44:09.360 They tried to put me in jail for that.

00:44:11.680 And which is crazy.

00:44:13.420 Now I see the Charlie Kirk murder industry.

00:44:15.440 That's actually what they said I did

00:44:18.060 is now the real industry.

00:44:19.840 And I'm not saying you shouldn't question it,

00:44:21.220 but that is a money machine.

00:44:22.540 Didn't turn against Trump

00:44:23.620 to get some of their own minions on my side

00:44:26.760 because most of them are bad,

00:44:27.920 but some of their mid-levels are like,

00:44:29.060 think I'm actually the devil.

00:44:30.240 I turned against Trump

00:44:31.200 He's insider trading and war and all this.

00:44:33.920 But now they're really freaked out because they seem like criticizing Trump.

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00:47:24.600 that was like a couple years

00:47:28.420 before the judgment

00:47:28.940 but that was the underage for the company

00:47:31.060 it happened to work out perfect

00:47:31.980 I put it all back into the company

00:47:33.360 which was fine I could give it myself

00:47:35.160 but even during the trial they go

00:47:36.540 where's the 9 million

00:47:37.720 I put it back in the company

00:47:38.620 you'll be held in perjury

00:47:40.060 the FBI is investigating this

00:47:41.260 they said I'm like okay fine

00:47:42.400 it's been given to the company

00:47:43.140 but my point was is that i remember i had 10 million dollars i remember looking at a bank

00:47:47.780 account was going god 10 million dollars they testified with no proof that i had 360 million

00:47:53.020 dollars in the bank that i made it off them and i'm sitting there in austin and it's all

00:47:59.220 coordinated in connecticut hearing i got 360 million dollars most ever had was 10 million

00:48:04.400 dollars and and the judge barred me and we had i was already in bankruptcy we had the documents

00:48:09.920 At that time, I was $3 million in the hole with legal bills.

00:48:13.400 I mean, and I feel fine today, but I got my car.

00:48:16.420 I can't get my house.

00:48:17.800 But, I mean, it's actually liberating because I think you have a little bit extra money.

00:48:21.420 People, you know, too much crap, spend money, whatever.

00:48:24.480 I don't have family asking for money anymore because I don't have it.

00:48:27.440 But my point is, is that they're literally telling the jury,

00:48:31.020 ladies and gentlemen, he got $360 million off these people and their dead kids.

00:48:35.000 he ran this industry that made all of this money and which is crazy now i see the charlie kirk

00:48:40.800 murder industry that's actually what they said i did is now the real industry and i'm not saying

00:48:46.720 you shouldn't question it but that is a money machine that is like hours a day of programming

00:48:51.660 mine was 22 minutes so it's like weird how what they said i did was almost like predicting the

00:48:56.800 future is later what came i don't know i don't know if we said it was it a 1.5 billion dollar

00:49:02.160 judgment 1.4 billion 4 billion and texas was 49 million yeah oh that's the right part they had

00:49:09.340 the thirst of the hell guy gets up the fifth day of the of the damages trial marty guilty

00:49:15.400 and he we're not allowed to testify and counter him because we're already guilty

00:49:18.740 and he goes this guy's a tittle of the hun he's incredible he makes money off every click

00:49:23.020 every everything's monetized none of that was true google analytics and google whatever

00:49:27.800 had since it banned a decade before i'm sitting there watching this and i'm sitting there literally

00:49:32.700 three million in the hole i'm literally having to borrow money from family to pay my gas bill

00:49:37.760 okay and i'm sitting there here and i have like 360 million and he's all from these families and

00:49:43.560 i'm an expert and i've seen his books none of that was true i was seeing lie upon lie upon lie upon

00:49:49.100 lie and i'll feel sorry for myself it was like it was like not real it was like i was on acid

00:49:54.260 and and and and and then we were able to talk to a bunch of the jury after they said okay uh this

00:50:01.880 is the because i was already found guilty they said well since he's worth 360 million we think

00:50:07.780 10 of his wealth 49 million is fair and even after that but the point was and that's on record

00:50:14.560 my lawyers talk to them they're like no you weren't even just you're so rich alex 49 million

00:50:21.120 dollars and that's more money than i ever made so was it the judge who came up with this outrageous

00:50:27.380 figure absolutely she said i don't care if the texas law is two million i'm busting the caps

00:50:32.320 and f the supreme court and she's it's not even in texas law for defamation you can't even do that

00:50:37.860 my point is am i worried about four 1.4 billion dude i've never i've never made personally

00:50:44.660 49 million dollars so that judgment i can't pay i'm three million dollars in the hole when they

00:50:52.240 are saying that i'm supposed to i mean i did my account yesterday i got 60 000 in the bank right

00:50:57.760 now so at this point have they received anything from you oh yeah they vacuumed up because they

00:51:03.660 had the irs audit me back six years uh it was a what was it 4.3 million dollar tax return

00:51:13.420 I'd overpaid because I'm always like hey

00:51:16.020 be conservative they took that

00:51:17.800 they took that and then they took

00:51:19.800 all

00:51:22.180 I mean

00:51:22.820 the lake house the little farm

00:51:26.160 I had which was just a few million

00:51:27.480 and then they go to the news go we haven't got anything

00:51:30.020 he's hiding it he won't give it to us

00:51:31.880 when they really made 300 million

00:51:33.820 off my name running ads saying Alex

00:51:36.040 is pissing on our graves give us money help us

00:51:37.920 help us help us so they already made 300 million

00:51:40.020 off my name I mean these

00:51:42.000 people are just raking it in so is the idea that for the rest of your life when you make money it

00:51:47.100 goes to them or are you an appeal no no no no oh exactly they lied to the federal judge that's why

00:51:52.600 it's on appeal federally and told him it was non-dischargeable to the state court it wasn't

00:51:56.720 so the federal judge gave them non-dischargeable so everything until it's 1.4 billion is not paid

00:52:05.960 and it's already like $500 million in interest.

00:52:11.400 So I actually owe them, a few months ago when we checked,

00:52:15.020 I owe them $1.9 billion.

00:52:17.760 And that's why I laugh at it because, I mean, I've got like a,

00:52:22.360 I mean, it's great.

00:52:23.280 I've got like a six, seven-year-old car, runs great.

00:52:25.820 I'm happy.

00:52:26.200 I got a house.

00:52:26.780 They can't take a Texas law.

00:52:27.940 And, you know, I got my $400 sports jacket on.

00:52:31.060 And, you know, I mean, I'm happy.

00:52:32.480 I got my $100 tennis shoes.

00:52:33.880 It's just like I was never about money, so it doesn't even matter.

00:52:36.400 It means absolutely nothing to me.

00:52:38.000 But it's not for me.

00:52:39.640 It's for outside consumption that we're going to get you, you're going to pay, and you better not do this or we'll get you.

00:52:48.100 Is there any scenario in which this gets overturned or this goes away?

00:52:52.640 Do you have appeal options still pending?

00:52:55.100 Yeah, the U.S. Supreme Court refused to hear the Connecticut case.

00:52:58.040 But when you have extraordinary criminal activity and abusive process, an abusive process is not a sexy name.

00:53:03.880 But it's racketeering.

00:53:05.420 Yeah.

00:53:05.840 And we've deposed.

00:53:06.960 We're suing them.

00:53:08.180 All the extra money that's come in, we've put into lawsuits against them.

00:53:12.740 And that's why you don't see it in the news.

00:53:14.240 But we've had major victories that will be announced.

00:53:17.260 Very, probably two to three weeks, a big victory will be announced.

00:53:19.920 And then an even bigger one.

00:53:21.820 But for strategic reasons, we don't want to announce it.

00:53:24.180 Let's just say they said they had the websites a few times got kicked out.

00:53:27.520 They said they'd done this.

00:53:28.840 We now have whistleblowers.

00:53:31.360 We now have insiders.

00:53:33.060 We now have people that are like, this is wrong.

00:53:35.580 And I didn't turn against Trump to get some of their own minions on my side

00:53:40.780 because most of them are bad, but some of their mid-levels are like,

00:53:43.080 think I'm actually the devil.

00:53:44.280 I turned against Trump because he's insider trading and war and all this.

00:53:47.760 But now they're really freaked out because they see me criticizing Trump.

00:53:50.940 So a lot of their cult members are going, oh, this doesn't make sense.

00:53:55.900 And now they're looking back that I never did what they said.

00:53:59.000 They would tell these people I did this stuff,

00:54:00.720 and now I've talked to them, I've gotten apology letters from some of the parents.

00:54:03.060 oh that wasn't known yet um and because they would actually yeah i was a little shocked they

00:54:08.600 would go look it up and find out i never said it never said any of it but here tucker carlson

00:54:14.140 i get upset he had hunter biden on it was a softball but tucker when nobody would support

00:54:19.260 me supported me and it was tucker didn't tell me the time i later learned it from elon and his

00:54:23.500 lawyer he interviews elon a couple times he goes hey alex jones is great you should bring him back

00:54:28.400 He didn't do that.

00:54:28.960 He goes, oh, he, you know, he'd already said on X, oh, he hurts dead kids.

00:54:33.500 I F him.

00:54:34.760 And they said, hey, you've got access to all the files, his whole history on X.

00:54:39.080 And I was, you know, on Twitter a decade before I got banned.

00:54:41.700 He said, why don't you look at what he said?

00:54:43.460 Because all the, take it out.

00:54:45.760 And Elon went and looked it up.

00:54:46.720 He said, he said it all happened in all the posts.

00:54:48.440 There's 14 posts.

00:54:50.540 Deleted up posts, everything.

00:54:51.960 He said, he went and watched the few things I did.

00:54:54.460 He went, actually, he didn't say all that.

00:54:56.380 That's another thing.

00:54:57.160 We've gotten a civil rights lawsuit.

00:54:58.200 we've already filed i don't talk about me anymore but they would say i said something in the news

00:55:03.440 and then put that in a pleading almost all of it you read these pleadings i never said

00:55:08.600 in fact we have pleadings where i said i believe the kids died this person says they didn't and

00:55:14.480 this happened they would cut that off put in the other part that's fraud that is racketeering

00:55:20.260 conspiracy against rights you're saying here today that you have gotten an apology from parents

00:55:25.940 after the fact who've come to realize

00:55:28.280 that what you were accused of was not true.

00:55:30.860 Yeah, I mean,

00:55:31.540 just saying, hey, we didn't know this was a setup.

00:55:34.420 We're sorry. We're all in this together.

00:55:36.460 Well, I just think that's an interesting point

00:55:38.200 because, again, this interview is not about me.

00:55:40.080 I don't want one of the parents

00:55:42.460 that started going that way committed suicide

00:55:44.160 to believe that.

00:55:46.480 So it's just very dangerous with these people we're dealing with.

00:55:48.820 No, no.

00:55:49.100 I mean, this is like mafia.

00:55:50.660 So I don't want to get anybody, you know.

00:55:52.160 Understood. Yep.

00:55:53.920 I mean, this is CIA.

00:55:55.280 I only brought that up because, again, when I went through J6, the worst part for me, I've always said, was the civil case.

00:56:02.920 And they do all work together.

00:56:04.200 That's part of the coordination that you're saying that you come to realize when you get nauseous because they made me say I did something I didn't do.

00:56:10.160 I signed a plea deal.

00:56:11.120 Within seconds, I was sued.

00:56:12.440 They were obviously already talking to the nonprofit law firm that was preparing the lawsuit, and the nonprofit law firm was representing eight black Capitol police officers who I'd never met in my entire life.

00:56:22.800 And you were outside the Capitol in a nothing. 0.81

00:56:24.440 Correct.

00:56:24.800 But these officers did not get together and go find a lawyer and say, we need to sue Brandon Strzok.

00:56:29.640 The lawyer came up with the case and found the plaintiffs and said, we could give you a payday.

00:56:33.420 And you don't have to agree or disagree.

00:56:35.240 I look at your case very similarly to me.

00:56:37.640 Dude, I was in the second row with you.

00:56:39.500 Yeah.

00:56:40.040 And we were all, I was meeting with the Proud Boys the night before.

00:56:42.520 We're worried about if Antifa attacks, what do we do?

00:56:45.300 I mean, I knew we weren't attacking the Capitol.

00:56:47.080 We were all just like standing there.

00:56:48.260 I was saying, don't go in.

00:56:49.360 Yeah.

00:56:49.680 You're like, it's a beautiful day.

00:56:50.840 We didn't even know when they opened the gates.

00:56:52.660 we're like oh they're letting us in you're like oh great we're letting us in velvet ropes it was

00:56:58.880 like because people think like they see it on tv you're there you don't know right there's like

00:57:03.580 200 000 people in front of you and and then you don't know what's happening there's also four

00:57:07.560 sides to the building and people just assume if you were at the building you saw violence there

00:57:10.800 was only violence happening on one side and i wasn't on the south side the west side west side

00:57:15.280 and i was on the east side i believe you were on the east side so the west side's the one where

00:57:18.260 to the inauguration. That's exactly right.

00:57:19.900 And we had a stage set

00:57:22.420 with Trump by the Supreme Court on the north side.

00:57:24.420 The Supreme Court side is the east side.

00:57:26.300 East side. So it's the opposite side

00:57:28.440 of where the violence was. We had permits to that. That's right.

00:57:30.060 So Trump goes, go to our event, and then

00:57:31.900 he says, be peaceful.

00:57:34.120 Notice they banned him on X that day on Twitter.

00:57:35.920 They wouldn't let the video where he said all that, they banned all that.

00:57:38.040 Yeah. And I'm not defending

00:57:39.560 the new Trump. I'm defending reality.

00:57:42.140 Well, so with the time... I didn't mean to go on a

00:57:43.820 Sandy Hook rant. No, I wanted to know.

00:57:46.380 I mean, listen. 0.88

00:57:48.260 A lie goes halfway around the world where Ruth puts his pants on.

00:57:52.060 I'm not a victim. 0.84

00:57:53.020 I don't feel sorry for myself.

00:57:53.940 I feel like I'm in the twilight zone.

00:57:56.040 And I'm just blessed to have experienced this, actually.

00:57:58.380 Because I would be way more naive now.

00:58:01.040 Because you'd think four or five years ago,

00:58:03.420 Alex Jones was like, oh, he knows everything.

00:58:05.100 No, I didn't know.

00:58:06.220 I said years ago, I'm kind of retarded.

00:58:08.020 I know I know nothing like Socrates.

00:58:10.400 But when you're sitting there and you go, oh, my God,

00:58:12.360 it's totally scripted, then it really hits you.

00:58:15.560 Yes.

00:58:16.100 And it's scary.

00:58:17.860 it's really scary and you go oh my god this is all coordinated they're obviously having

00:58:22.440 you know practices they're obviously having what do you call it in the well rehearsals

00:58:29.160 and you realize it's all choreographed and you're just like oh my god it's the Truman Show yeah

00:58:34.460 they've done this before this is not the first time it's all very rehearsed it's very coordinated

00:58:39.140 there's plots there's plans they know what they're doing and because they know we're not like them

00:58:44.040 we never get invited to it which i'm glad to be not invited but jesus how do you sit there 0.67

00:58:48.320 between two courts and two states with the doj and the top hbo guy that does propaganda films

00:58:56.660 just war propaganda films you name it and you they all get together and script it with the

00:59:01.420 but i guess i'm the bad guy so i deserve it with the time we have left i want to talk to you about

00:59:05.700 trump and i want to talk to you about the america first i'm sorry we went so long no i think people

00:59:10.440 really want to hear this and I wanted to know um you say you turned on Trump I think I would I see

00:59:18.640 it a little bit differently but that's okay those are your words no 100% agree did you turn on Trump

00:59:23.100 or did he change he changed and turned on us and attacked his constituents and said never

00:59:27.800 Trump was right I'm just I don't like blame it on him um yeah I know clearly Trump became a new

00:59:35.740 person and people say oh the left says oh you admit you got conned you admit it was a lie the

00:59:41.460 whole time no he did a bunch of good stuff and was anti-establishment it was ham-fisted and had

00:59:46.100 problems but about four or five months into this new term when Elon left and all the rest of it

00:59:51.060 and he covered up Epstein and now the insider trading and the war and and just everything he

00:59:57.100 died gold statues everywhere and you know it's just he's got I think he has frontal lobe

01:00:02.600 um dementia and people don't know what that means you have regular dementia you don't know

01:00:08.860 where you are you're you know you're drawing with crap on the walls frontal lobe is that you've got

01:00:13.260 overall cognancy but your cerebral cortex is having decision making problems you're flipping

01:00:17.580 basically so your decision making gets degraded and um my mom's dad was the most cool guy ever

01:00:25.160 knew and then he had a heart attack blood clots in his brain and then after the stroke it was

01:00:29.680 it was the frontal lobe deal and he he was still smart but had no decision making and so i and i

01:00:37.380 don't think he has as bad as my grandfather had but i mean i think what you see with trump it's

01:00:42.860 80 years of a lot of wear and i think he has frontal lobe dementia well i'll tell you right

01:00:46.840 now right now my existing audience they're they're split they're divided just as everybody's is but

01:00:51.880 i'd say the vast majority are very much firmly behind trump and they at this point don't feel

01:00:56.320 like they're going to change their mind um so well he's been through so much and we know the

01:01:01.480 democrats and the democratic socialists of america are so horrible i get all that but it doesn't mean

01:01:06.040 we're not mad at him going off course and then i had audience mad at me today because he's like

01:01:11.180 i'm not going to endorse that in yahoo for re-election and huckabee says oh my god you're

01:01:14.920 committing genocide against christians so he is that's not just rhetoric he's he's starting to

01:01:20.340 figure out listening he said that yahoo's most unpopular guy in the world trump now

01:01:24.600 at the end of the day Trump doesn't want to be unpopular right so so we are getting some traction

01:01:30.600 doesn't mean like I'm embracing Trump again because people are mad that I'm not supporting

01:01:34.720 Trump they're also mad when he does a better job saying that's good and so you can't win but I

01:01:39.560 it's weird well that's my question for you because you know I look at the the many relationships uh

01:01:45.380 that have been severed over the last year um and you look at someone like say Marjorie Taylor

01:01:49.760 green i'm going to go out on a limb and say i don't i think that that relationship is irreparable

01:01:55.220 i don't think that those two are going to come back together however i look at someone like

01:01:58.700 lauren bober and i could see trump coming back around again and you know sometimes he lets people

01:02:02.660 back in sometimes he doesn't if he extended an olive branch or something where where would you

01:02:08.660 receive it well number one i don't want to be at the epstein howard ludding table so the media

01:02:17.820 phrases that like all the cat turds and you know Ben Garrison types who are nice guys but like

01:02:23.060 you're not at the cool table you're not in MAGA and I'm like dude I was never MAGA I was 1776

01:02:27.040 I supported MAGA make it great I would make it free and fair and powerful and good and virtuous

01:02:32.040 so I'm 1776 on MAGA I support MAGA but I'm I'm a precursor of the wave Trump wrote in on

01:02:38.160 and so yeah if the leader of the free world didn't all a branch I would talk to him and

01:02:45.900 try to have influence but at a personal level i want to be as far away from him as i can because

01:02:51.340 i have no faith that's going to happen so if he did change course and said he was sorry yes i would

01:02:55.500 but he's in such egomaniac land right now the only selfishness i've got is that i might have

01:03:01.160 supported him too long out of loyalty and i want to be a hundred percent separated that's why when

01:03:06.560 he's attacked me i've said please more because i don't want to be anywhere associated with what

01:03:11.980 you've done and what you've become i mean a hundred thousand dollars and we'll give you

01:03:16.680 insider trading info with the advertisement we'll tell you what he's going to announce for stocks

01:03:20.900 before i mean the the arrogance that i actually it's actually i guess good in a way he says well

01:03:27.980 i'm the president i'm giving myself a pardon insider trading and so i turned down massive

01:03:33.360 amounts of money not to work for the democrats they offered me all the shows ailes offered me

01:03:37.880 the fox news neocon version i was over 50 million a year by the richest guy in the world right before

01:03:42.160 they sued me to get on board and if i didn't sell out to do that now i'm by increment to kiss his 0.53

01:03:47.780 ass i'm gonna sell out put a gun to my head man i'd rather die well so so i mean no i i'm nobody's 0.87

01:03:53.820 bitch and i don't and and so a he ain't gonna apologize he's an egomaniac and if he did and 0.98

01:04:00.520 i thought i and i told him something and which has happened before and i saw him go and say it 0.85

01:04:04.880 i believe in god i can believe he can be reprieved but i ain't holding my breath

01:04:09.120 well as for me want to be in his orbit i i want to be as far away from donald trump as i can be

01:04:13.760 one way or another we would have ended up in a very similar position as we are today regardless

01:04:19.020 because we're going to get through the midterms and then the question becomes what is 2028 is

01:04:23.380 there a successor to maga does maga become you know it's not even right now maga versus

01:04:28.500 america first is your last debate which is important that's the cutting edge the new

01:04:32.700 thing is what's post MAGA and then you saw the you saw the MAGA guys going it doesn't matter we

01:04:38.240 need him he's the future he ain't the future he's 80 years old his sons are nice guys not that

01:04:44.040 charismatic they've now even if they get out of with pardons are going to be Mr. Insider Trading

01:04:48.100 making uh Ulysses S. Grant look like he's not corrupt he's the worst at that so far so I mean

01:04:54.480 I'm just like no Trump's done folks even if he executes the war even if he turned around now

01:05:00.140 It's too much damage.

01:05:01.860 But even if we didn't make it about him, let's forget about him for a second.

01:05:06.480 There's no one around the corner that's anything like him.

01:05:09.380 Marco Rubio is nothing like Donald Trump.

01:05:11.720 J.D. Vance is nothing like Donald Trump.

01:05:13.980 Yeah, but I'm just saying people gravitated towards Donald Trump for a specific reason.

01:05:17.660 And the people that we're currently looking at don't really possess any of those qualities.

01:05:21.500 No, I agree.

01:05:22.000 And people think like, oh, Palantir, Peter Thiel, because they knew him.

01:05:25.460 You're with that camp.

01:05:27.040 J.D. Vance is consistently more pro-speech, anti-war, and it's not a neocon.

01:05:32.320 Rubio is very competent.

01:05:33.780 No one can not admire well-spoken, very competent, very good leader.

01:05:37.760 So is Darth Vader.

01:05:39.260 I'm not supporting Rubio.

01:05:40.780 Like, I sat out the McCain-Obama first election because it was so equally evil.

01:05:45.720 I'm like, I just can't do it.

01:05:47.660 And so, I mean, I'm at that point.

01:05:49.580 I'm on vote for Marco Rubio.

01:05:51.700 And so, you're like, lesser to evils, you know, it's not even that.

01:05:56.320 I would support J.D. Vance.

01:05:58.020 And look, who else could we have as a Republican?

01:06:00.420 So, you know, I'm sure I'm going to vote for the Democratic Socialists.

01:06:02.840 I mean, all I know is I cannot sign on to this anymore.

01:06:06.360 Well, okay, so in our final minutes here, let me just say,

01:06:09.200 so regardless of whoever...

01:06:10.860 We can push it a little bit. We need to.

01:06:12.120 Regardless of whoever ends up running for president

01:06:15.960 or becomes a viable candidate on the Republican Party,

01:06:18.040 it doesn't change the fact that we're currently existing

01:06:21.120 in a system that is not sustainable.

01:06:22.540 The Republican Party has no interest whatsoever in representing their constituents.

01:06:27.500 It's totally turned on the populace.

01:06:29.180 100%.

01:06:29.700 And so whether we have a good, viable candidate for president or not, is there a need right now for a new America First Party or some sort of movement that actually fulfills the promises of MAGA?

01:06:41.980 Absolutely.

01:06:42.420 You've seen all the demonization fear of Massey and Tucker and MTG and Joe Kent meeting.

01:06:50.180 And all they said was, and I talked to Joe at your event, and I said, is this your plan?

01:06:53.340 He goes, yeah, that's basically it.

01:06:54.560 Sure, we said that.

01:06:55.720 But it's like, we're just exploring a thing to try to bring back what populism should be.

01:07:01.360 The Republicans are the best venue.

01:07:03.420 Still, maybe we get enough of a coalition to inject some sanity.

01:07:07.300 And if it goes sideways, yeah, even though it may not succeed, we have to run.

01:07:12.220 It's the moral thing to do.

01:07:13.400 It's not like you were like, oh, it's the master plan.

01:07:15.420 We're going to conquer the world.

01:07:16.560 but it's also good leadership and the right time for this we're in a point of revolution

01:07:21.180 and those that make peaceful revolutions you know impossible make violent revolutions you know

01:07:25.460 inevitable to quote Kennedy or however he says it better than that so so that's where we are

01:07:31.760 and this is a betrayal what Trump has become is a betrayal and that if I lied to my viewers and

01:07:37.600 listeners it would be a betrayal but don't worry listeners I always make decisions how I personally

01:07:41.800 field and it happens to mirror you most of the time i to me there's no focus groups i know what

01:07:47.740 trump has done is a betrayal and i and i went through hell for this guy i didn't get anything

01:07:52.840 but lawsuits and attacks supporting him and you know even a year ago they had ed martin with the 0.54

01:07:59.940 task force weaponized task force they had six investigations they called me because they messed

01:08:04.980 up the doj funded the suits against me rigged it i mean you ed martin's like oh my god they covered

01:08:10.260 up their stuff with trump pretty good but with you they really messed up and he's like i can't

01:08:13.720 show you the stuff but they had access to everything he goes we got him it's incredible

01:08:17.140 wheeler deposed him and stuff and got some of it i mean it's the cia running this the doj like we

01:08:22.120 have names everything it's incredible and then todd blanch comes in and just shuts it down that

01:08:26.600 was a year ago and i went that's okay i didn't make a big deal about it i understand there's

01:08:30.600 more important things to do i didn't turn against trump because the media's like oh you turned

01:08:34.800 against him because he didn't go after the you know no it was because the war and the insider

01:08:40.860 and even beyond the war the insider trading i was just like i'm this is so naked so in your face

01:08:47.380 like a flasher you know it's like and you a hundred thousand dollars i'll tell you how to

01:08:51.440 rig the stock market and i'm just like you just outdid pelosi and i'm your supporter you just 0.65

01:08:57.280 shit all over me i mean because i'm your supporter and then now you've made me like by extension i've

01:09:03.760 become this i'm sorry i'm done and then at the paradox the democrats don't want to put me in 0.75

01:09:08.380 prison they still hate me and i'm just like sitting here going my god this is a disaster but

01:09:13.440 at the end of the day i have faith in the people of america and the world and there's such a and

01:09:17.720 i'm telling everybody the next phase is going to be the brandon strocks and everybody else

01:09:22.160 saying what is post-maga what is the future and just being completely real about all this

01:09:28.200 and i think tucker having hunter on is trying to bridge the gap but he's so establishment it's an

01:09:33.520 correction it's kind of just endorsing that as what is really woke or what's avant-garde and it's

01:09:39.500 not we got to reject it all well i'm glad that you brought up uh todd blanche because i want people

01:09:46.100 to understand this has become the divide has become very hyperbolic and everyone jumps instantly

01:09:53.540 to iran and i understand that's the biggest issue that's it's not lost on me but people act like

01:09:58.460 that's the only thing that caused the divide oh it's the people who supported the war the people

01:10:02.120 who were against the war there was so so much more than that and for me personally and again

01:10:06.580 this is not about me but like the way my feelings have changed about this administration and trump's

01:10:12.740 second presidency aren't even really that much about iran and it's not even it's not even really

01:10:18.040 honestly that much about epstein for me it's about de-weaponization and that i where are the

01:10:22.900 indictments where are the bad guys getting investigations where are the people getting

01:10:26.400 fired like oh you don't like 20 burritos statements by trump what do you think about

01:10:31.120 the average hardship of americans i don't care about any americans hardship you know he said

01:10:35.200 that i'm like podesta couldn't put words in his mouth worse to hurt us so i'm supposed to sit by

01:10:40.360 while he destroys the midterms it's like it's it's it's a disaster yeah well and it's like we're now

01:10:46.580 nearly two years in and we're people like me are still being attacked for asking questions like

01:10:52.720 can we at least investigate what happened with january 6th can we fire the people who who harmed

01:10:59.020 trump's most loyal supporters indict an innocent door dash black driver that has the door dash

01:11:04.440 proof it wasn't him you're talking about the pipe bomber oh yeah yeah and then they and then

01:11:09.160 it's a mess and then you got the epstein cover-up you're not maga if you think it's real it's a

01:11:16.260 hoax you've got the cover-up of charlie which i'm not saying tyler robinson and kill him i'm just

01:11:20.440 saying there's a cover-up of other details and all the leftist groups that said he'll be dead

01:11:24.560 I talked to TPSA's head people.

01:11:26.320 They go, yeah, no, Cash Patel told us we're not going to indict them

01:11:29.240 because we don't want to be convicted, but yeah, we know they helped him.

01:11:31.600 I'm like, that's your proof of the case.

01:11:32.960 See, it's like, what is going on here?

01:11:36.240 But I think something productive that can come out of a conversation like this,

01:11:39.160 and again, a lot of my audience watching this, they're going to be mad

01:11:42.320 because they want people to be behind Trump.

01:11:45.360 They're still behind Trump.

01:11:46.520 But I want people to understand.

01:11:48.740 I'm going to put words in your mouth here.

01:11:50.100 I don't think either of us want to be sitting here having this conversation.

01:11:53.000 I think that we would both be thrilled if we could be sitting here going like,

01:11:55.800 this dude is crushing it in the second administration.

01:11:57.140 We wanted Trump to succeed.

01:11:58.460 We don't get gold stars from the Democrats.

01:12:00.300 Yeah.

01:12:00.860 I don't want to trash talk him, which, by the way, I don't think we are,

01:12:05.820 but I don't want to have a negative opinion about him.

01:12:07.860 Well, notice how he now admits the Iran war was wrong, basically, 0.84

01:12:11.200 and then Joe Kent and Tulsiad were right.

01:12:13.380 But he still worships the guys that lied him into it and still demonizes them.

01:12:17.360 Yeah.

01:12:17.760 Like, they said it would last four days to four weeks.

01:12:19.700 Were we right or were they right?

01:12:21.100 But when I'm calling this stuff out, and again, this is a message directly to my audience.

01:12:25.100 And when I talk about due weaponization, which to me was the biggest issue, like, I don't really think the Democrats are going to come after me again.

01:12:31.080 They did about as much damage to me and my organization as they could possibly do.

01:12:34.500 But the people who orchestrated January 6th and came after all these people, they're still working in the DOJ.

01:12:39.400 They're still working in the FBI.

01:12:40.580 The prosecutors are still there.

01:12:41.940 So they're still there to come after anyone watching this now as soon as we have a change of guard in the administration.

01:12:47.240 Everything that I'm doing right now, the hits I'm taking, the hits you're taking,

01:12:50.480 are really on behalf of protecting all of these people

01:12:53.420 because the promise has not been fulfilled of why we went out.

01:12:57.340 No, I totally agree.

01:12:58.280 We talked about this on air and off here when you were on my show.

01:13:01.320 I just had an idea.

01:13:02.640 When I have a theory, this is a conspiracy theory,

01:13:05.000 99% of what I do is just admitted stuff.

01:13:06.780 We analyze whether my analysis or perspective is right.

01:13:09.380 But usually it's like this plane crash.

01:13:10.680 What do you think?

01:13:11.180 This bill, what do you think of this legislation?

01:13:12.680 I don't even blame

01:13:15.100 Candace and Tucker

01:13:16.700 and everybody else for 0.91

01:13:18.120 kind of face-sucking

01:13:20.900 Hunter because they know how

01:13:23.020 vindictive Trump is and they also

01:13:25.020 know the establishment. They also know how

01:13:26.940 the vindictive Democrats are. They're

01:13:28.980 like buddying up with the Democrats because they know Trump's

01:13:30.920 going to be gone and they want them to know

01:13:33.080 we're not with that. I'm in the

01:13:35.080 position, I think you are too, where we're like being

01:13:36.880 real mediators here, real

01:13:38.520 observers and we're like, you're bad and so are

01:13:41.020 you it's really all part of the same corrupt thing at the end of the day and and and so i think i 0.53

01:13:45.360 think this i think this hunter biden face sucking is about people realizing oh you're about to come

01:13:50.800 back into power leave us alone and really it's an exit strategy and i talked to some of these

01:13:55.260 people it wasn't tucker and i'm not going to say who even before they announced they were resigning

01:13:58.540 i knew they were and they're like yeah i'm done i have trump attacking me my family everything and

01:14:03.240 then the democrats are coming after me i'm done this is a lie i'm gonna run for office

01:14:07.340 They're not.

01:14:08.480 And Tucker doesn't want to be president either.

01:14:09.560 That was a separate person.

01:14:10.700 But, I mean, and I can respect that.

01:14:12.420 It's an exit strategy to just roll over and piss on yourself like a dog does to the Democrats because Trump didn't protect his people.

01:14:20.120 And if people are going to exit fully, do it.

01:14:22.000 Me, I'm not doing that.

01:14:22.920 I'm going to call balls and strikes.

01:14:24.080 I can't do it any other way.

01:14:25.260 You're being the same.

01:14:25.960 I respect that.

01:14:26.780 You don't think Tucker will run?

01:14:29.560 Oh, 100% not.

01:14:30.920 Well, okay, so this is going to be my final question for you today, and you kind of just blew it.

01:14:34.680 But, uh, so, uh, looking to 2028, I'm not asking for your answer to like the most realistic viable candidate. I'm saying in an ideal world where Alex Jones gets whatever he wants, who is the candidate or, or do you even want to vote Republican? Forget that. Who would you like to see become president of the United States in 2028?

01:14:58.820 Well, Tucker's not going to run.

01:15:01.200 I believe him.

01:15:01.780 I know him well.

01:15:02.860 He hates DC.

01:15:03.820 He hates all the stuff.

01:15:05.500 He wants to be a kingmaker, though.

01:15:07.740 So he wants to be the guy that backs the guy that wins.

01:15:10.120 Okay.

01:15:12.520 J.D. Vance is imperfect.

01:15:14.340 But if you look at the field we have, he's the best there is.

01:15:17.340 I'm sure there's some great dark horse out there.

01:15:19.620 Do you like Massey?

01:15:21.140 Oh, I love Massey.

01:15:22.340 I just don't think the demographics of the numbers.

01:15:26.660 I mean, if you've got enough Democrat crossovers, he could win.

01:15:29.280 Oh, I mean, I would love to see an RFK Jr., Massey ticket.

01:15:33.880 I'd love to see a Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr.

01:15:36.460 I mean, Tulsi Gabbard, I know the inside baseball in the public. 0.99

01:15:38.680 Incredible integrity, amazing woman. 0.99

01:15:41.340 You know, she's not caught up in all the glitz of BS. 0.53

01:15:44.120 She's transcended it.

01:15:45.540 RFK is amazing, even though he's got this weird Israel thing. 0.53

01:15:48.300 But I guess that's how he grew up as his alliance, as his buddies. 0.52

01:15:51.140 I get it.

01:15:51.840 I don't hate people that are, you know, going for that.

01:15:54.000 I just think they've given into too much excess.

01:15:55.680 um but uh yeah i mean that's a really big that's a whole nother show about but i also think and i

01:16:03.320 say your question's bad we focus too much on the presidential though it's incredibly important

01:16:06.520 what about governors what about legislators what about mayors you know what about talk show hosts

01:16:11.060 it's to me we can't just bet everything on a president uh but it's very disconcerting the

01:16:16.940 field we have and the fact that jd vance is the best thing we have uh you know lab grown jd vance

01:16:22.700 I don't think that's really what he is, but they saw a talent, a smart PR guy,

01:16:26.440 and he defended me when I was being censored before he was a senator

01:16:29.240 and after he was.

01:16:32.760 Oh, Palantir, Palantir.

01:16:34.120 Palantir's involved in everything.

01:16:35.940 But, I mean, you're asking me a question.

01:16:37.280 The only reason I answered it is, I mean, I don't trust Vivek Ramoswani.

01:16:41.900 He's not even in the play right now, but he's trying to be.

01:16:44.400 I don't think he's a bad guy, but he's a chameleon.

01:16:46.760 I think Rubio is Darth Vader.

01:16:49.840 I mean, who do you think some good Republicans could be?

01:16:51.860 Because I would support. Let me tell you something. I'll reform any party. And if the Democrats had Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr. ahead of it, I'd vote for them. I'd love the Democrats to reform. I'd be a Democrat right now.

01:17:03.120 Well, I'm going to cop out a little bit in my answer here, but it's it's for very practical reasons. I'm going to say right now, I have a tendency when I get upset and I get frustrated.

01:17:12.400 I told you this the other day to overcorrect and so what I'm trying to do right now is be a little

01:17:17.880 more prudent because right now I'm finding myself starting to look at some of these people in this

01:17:22.440 sort of new America first movement that's forming and say okay I left the Democratic Party because

01:17:27.380 the Democratic Party lied to me didn't give me what I wanted I came over to MAGA because I believe

01:17:31.260 the promise of MAGA and right now I'm feeling like MAGA didn't give me what I wanted so right

01:17:34.700 now my instinct is well then I'm going to go over here and do it and I'm trying to be cautious about

01:17:38.220 that i i'll tell you i am very interested in thomas massey uh because i i think he's interesting

01:17:44.860 and i like the fact that he seems to be fighting the establishment his real integrity he's 100%

01:17:49.220 real deal yeah but that does not mean i have a lot of research to do enough yeah yeah here's my

01:17:54.440 issue yeah we're a two-party system which was built off the parlements because you can always

01:17:59.040 have like five or six parties team up even if you win they can outvote you so parlements have a

01:18:03.880 problem our two-party system has a problem too the last time one of the two parties got replaced was

01:18:07.580 the Whigs by the Republicans.

01:18:09.680 So we haven't since before the Civil War

01:18:12.280 had a replacement of a party.

01:18:13.400 You're not supposed to get a new party.

01:18:14.960 You're supposed to replace one here.

01:18:16.760 And that's a whole process.

01:18:18.860 But things are bad enough now

01:18:20.740 that I would support a third party

01:18:22.180 led by good people to inject truth

01:18:24.420 and who knows, maybe even when,

01:18:26.260 if they can get on the Libertarian ballot

01:18:27.580 that's actually in all 50 states.

01:18:29.040 So I do think it's time to break the glass,

01:18:31.280 the nuclear option.

01:18:33.060 And you know what?

01:18:34.080 If they're going to be neocons,

01:18:35.760 Republican Party, we nuke them.

01:18:37.580 just like Ross Perot did Bush Sr.,

01:18:40.900 and we put the Democrats in and give people what they want,

01:18:43.540 kind of be accelerationist.

01:18:44.820 And that's kind of a fointest thing.

01:18:46.600 I can see that argument.

01:18:48.680 I would rather have the Republicans be pro-peace and pro-prosperity

01:18:54.420 and stop this madness and get back on track,

01:18:56.800 because the Democrats should be easy to beat with all their communism.

01:18:59.400 But that's not where we are.

01:19:00.880 So I think we're long haul here again,

01:19:02.520 and so it's a very complex question.

01:19:05.080 But, yes, I would support Thomas Massey for president.

01:19:07.580 any day over Marco Rubio.

01:19:09.400 I just don't know if his appeal,

01:19:11.880 I don't want to say it's a lack of charisma.

01:19:13.740 It's, he has charisma.

01:19:15.900 It's just that he's a little,

01:19:17.340 he's kind of like Rand Paul.

01:19:18.500 Like I would support a Rand Paul presidency,

01:19:19.880 but at the same time,

01:19:23.000 it's a little too professory.

01:19:24.360 And for whatever reason, it doesn't sell.

01:19:26.580 And so that's my issue.

01:19:27.800 There's no, there's no thunderbolt and lightning

01:19:29.680 with Marco Rubio, but he's more like tactician.

01:19:31.900 You know, Vance is very slick and not Hollywood.

01:19:36.620 He doesn't really have a ton of what you'd call, I guess, gravitas, but compared to the rest of the field, he does.

01:19:45.220 So we should do a search here, but I think a lot of Republicans are going to sit it out, kind of like Gavin Newsom sat out the last election, and wait in the wings.

01:19:53.400 And Newsom, as bad as he is, he's the best charisma they've got with zombies.

01:19:57.180 They don't see how fake it is.

01:19:59.200 So we've got to be thinking about that, or maybe we get our punishment for letting Trump sell us out, and we get four to eight years of the Democrats.

01:20:05.820 Let's God imagine that.

01:20:06.780 I just, I don't know.

01:20:08.020 Well, it's definitely a really uncertain time,

01:20:10.060 but I think it's also really exciting.

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01:20:51.800 So we're basically at the end of the line.

01:20:53.460 People need to get into gold and silver right now.

01:20:54.900 That's one of the smartest moves, right?

01:20:56.060 Yeah, I mean, it's an inflationary asset.

01:20:58.220 It's a hedge for flight for quality.

01:21:00.260 It's a safe haven during times like this.

01:21:02.120 i mean look we none of us want times like this alex it's not going to be good it's not going

01:21:07.900 to be a good we're here because we're not going to a lot of people we're not going to a lot of

01:21:10.940 people yeah we're here so therefore how do you take advantage of it physical gold and silver

01:21:16.700 that's what i would do i mean it's not the greatest thing since sliced bread there's times

01:21:20.620 when the economy is booming interest rates are down real estate's up everything like during the

01:21:24.680 reagan years gold and silver didn't do well during times like this i can't think of anything better

01:21:31.500 to protect and preserve and steward what lasts make wise decisions minimize your risk maximize

01:21:41.240 your return you could say it a bajillion different ways but for right now at this time in history with

01:21:48.880 everything that's going on nothing else makes sure it's very simple it's not like you guys are just

01:21:54.120 throwing gold and silver at them or a bunch of other stuff you they call up leave your number

01:21:58.600 the answer, call back, do a presentation, talk about it. You're buying it wholesale. It's all

01:22:03.380 cut and dry. Very easy to understand. Or you can go to the website, kpm.com forward slash gold,

01:22:09.320 send an email, set up a consultation. It's free and get into silver and gold. It's a very smart

01:22:14.720 move. But regardless, obviously I'd have you on about the economy. Separate from that, we're just

01:22:19.080 also your sponsor and it's a very smart move. I think for people other than if you've got it and

01:22:23.980 move to a farm somewhere with family and be self-sufficient and have a relationship with

01:22:27.840 God. That's obviously, you know, number one and two relationship with God and being physically

01:22:31.460 prepared. But everybody should get food. Everybody should get communications and water.

01:22:36.660 Everybody should get ready because, I mean, I look at this and I've been doing this 32 years and I'm,

01:22:41.660 we've never been in a climate like this. This is totally insane. And we're in the fourth turning

01:22:45.840 right now. So go to Kirk Elliott, precious metals, KPM.com port slash gold, 720-605-3900,

01:22:51.880 720-605-3900. Get a free consultation. Dr. Elliott, thank you so much.

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