On this episode of Firebrand Live, Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-GA) and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (D-VA) join me to discuss the debt ceiling, the Ukraine crisis, and the Biden 2020 campaign.
00:00:30.000We're in the right place. This is the movement for you.
00:00:33.180You ever watch this guy on television? It's like a machine. Matt Gaetz.
00:00:38.000I'm a canceled man in some corners of the internet. Many days I'm a marked man in Congress, a wanted man by the deep state.
00:00:45.900They aren't really coming for me. They're coming for you. I'm just in the way.
00:00:50.980Welcome back to Firebrand Live. This is our 100th episode.
00:00:59.080And of course, here joining me, the person who helped us kick off this project, my good friend, Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene.
00:01:06.460Going to get into a lot of information with MTG, the debt limit, what's going on with Ukraine.
00:01:10.980The live stream is going crazy with reaction to the separation of Tucker Carlson from Fox News.
00:01:17.340We love Tucker. We stand with Tucker. Can't wait to get into that and what it means for the conservative movement and the populists who fight for the people.
00:01:25.240There is a new tactic from Hunter Biden's legal team directed at MTG.
00:01:32.120I'm going to get her reaction to that and share why I think it's very significant.
00:01:37.100And everyone, every reporter in the Capitol building right now talking about the debt limit, the Republican plan.
00:01:42.800We're going to go through our reaction to that and really our concern about the debt.
00:01:46.980But first, MTG, welcome. And I want you to share with everyone.
00:01:50.260You've got a new podcast project about ready to launch.
00:01:53.660Tell everybody about it and how they can get a hold of it.
00:01:56.200Oh, oh, I do. But first, I want to say congratulations.
00:06:12.580But it shows the American people, actually, who the fighters are.
00:06:18.340President Trump, you know, certainly us.
00:06:23.600And it's just quite something that Biden thinks that that's the way to unite his coalition rather than putting forward any kind of agenda.
00:06:31.440I mean, what is the Biden agenda other than socialism and the Green New Deal?
00:06:34.160Well, his agenda is the destroy America agenda, the America last agenda, kill American energy, wide open borders, crime, rampant crime in our cities, transitioning kids under the age of 18 before they're able to graduate from high school,
00:06:51.880mastectomies, hysterectomies, the trans agenda.
00:07:05.380Joe Biden is running to stop extreme MAGA Republicans.
00:07:07.880So let's define what extreme MAGA Republican policies are.
00:07:12.220Secure borders, low crime, good education, good economy, strong dollar, America first energy, low foreign aid, affordable food, world peace,
00:07:21.100strong military, two genders, this is where it gets dicey, protecting girls and girls sports, protecting our Second Amendment, rejecting globalism, making America great again, extremely great, free, wealthy, happy.
00:08:16.160And that's why she has really shaken Washington.
00:08:18.920From the first press conference you gave where I watched you torch the entire press corps
00:08:23.460because you wouldn't let them define you to this very moment where you are leading on a lot of the key investigations on the Oversight Committee.
00:08:31.340On Homeland Security as well, but on Oversight, you have really dug in to a lot of important questions.
00:08:36.960And there is this fresh letter from the Hunter Biden legal team saying that accusing Marjorie Taylor Greene of conduct not reflecting credibly on the House.
00:08:49.260The good news is I think they are subscribers to Battleground MTG.
00:08:54.800But the essential criticism, the reason Hunter Biden's lawyers are trying to distract and feed Marjorie Taylor Greene to the Ethics Committee
00:09:04.340is because she's putting out true information and analysis coming directly off the Hunter Biden laptop.
00:10:32.800I also enjoyed seeing your name in the letter.
00:10:34.540I did, so that people understand I get a shout-out in the letter as a consequence of a tweet I had sent about Michael Cohen before his testimony to the oversight committee.
00:10:50.220But here's what I said to the ethics committee at the time.
00:10:53.000You guys don't want to exercise jurisdiction as the hall monitors of Twitter, where literally the House Ethics Committee is governing mean tweets.
00:11:01.180Because if you do that, then every time someone gets their feelings hurt by a tweet, they're going to draw you in to that type of a refereeing enterprise.
00:11:11.120And lo and behold, I'm entirely right.
00:11:13.200Because the basis for jurisdiction that Hunter Biden's lawyers are claiming is that, well, since the ethics committee said that Matt Gaetz sent mean tweets,
00:11:22.920they really should say that Marjorie Taylor Greene has said mean things about Hunter Biden, things that have hurt his feelings and that are concerning to him.
00:11:33.500Our friend Steve Bannon says, catch the signal, not the noise.
00:11:37.060I do not believe that this is a sincere attempt to try to get the ethics committee to punish Marjorie Taylor Greene.
00:11:44.380They are showcasing their fear because they know that the day is coming when Hunter Biden will be a seated witness before the oversight committee.
00:11:53.560And the five minutes that they are worried about most are the five minutes where Hunter Biden has to answer questions from Marjorie Taylor Greene.
00:12:01.360And so they are trying to use this as predicate.
00:12:04.180I don't know if it's to try to say, oh, maybe you can't participate in the Hunter Biden hearing because of this letter or some pending matter.
00:12:11.020But they're trying to use it to take you off your game.
00:12:16.440Let folks know, is the day coming this Congress when you believe Hunter Biden will be sitting before the House Oversight Committee?
00:15:55.420That's what the Oversight Committee is doing.
00:15:56.980Larry on Rumble says the public needs to see accountability.
00:16:00.620Right now, a lot of this investigative work, we're doing depositions, document reviews, and bringing it to light.
00:16:06.840I think it's going to be really important.
00:16:08.500And I know you're going to be leading the way on that.
00:16:10.500This week, one of the big topics is the debt limit plan.
00:16:13.920And whether or not we are going to be able to even engage Joe Biden in a productive discussion about how to go forward.
00:16:22.260Can anyone engage Joe Biden in a productive discussion?
00:16:24.540He doesn't seem to be too eager about it.
00:16:26.760The factors that we know, we have a four-seat majority.
00:16:30.860And so if you have a number of people who have a disagreement with something that's coming to the floor, then it requires Democrat votes to pass.
00:16:38.080On the debt limit recently, we heard our colleague Nancy Mace share her perspective against the McCarthy plan.
00:16:49.980I'm leaning against voting for it at this time because I just don't understand why we can't have a conversation about balancing the budget, cutting spending, and doing so over the next 10 years.
00:16:59.220Because inflation is still on the rise.
00:17:02.300You've got to cut spending and cut taxes and rein some of that in in order to grow the economy at a rate that can overtake the debt that we've taken on in this country.
00:17:24.600I have other concerns, especially on green energy.
00:17:27.080A state like South Carolina, we have a lot of solar farms and solar energy, both presidential and commercial.
00:17:33.100I want to find out and figure out what kind of adverse impact it might have on the state of South Carolina before we finally make that decision.
00:17:41.120And we're just still wading through it.
00:17:42.460And the devil's always in the details.
00:17:44.220Given you're not a yes yet, and McCarthy was saying yesterday he feels confident he has the votes, obviously you know it's a razor-thin margin.
00:21:29.700I'm with you that a country just cannot continue to spend this way without downward pressure on spending, and I know we're working hard to get there.
00:21:39.600I also wanted, but before I move on, I do think your points about separating Ukraine funding from the NDAA need to be noted.
00:22:01.620And I believe that it will be problematic in the passage of the National Defense Authorization Act if it is too flavored and tainted with continued U.S. entanglement in the Ukraine.
00:22:14.780Funding our own U.S. military, but including funding for defending another country's borders, well, they're not doing anything for our borders.
00:22:24.640The American administration, the Pentagon, everybody running the military, they ignore the American border.
00:22:29.980I think our military should be stacked at the southern border and the northern border.
00:22:34.040I think we should be defending our country.
00:22:36.100I think we should be fighting the cartels and not the Russians.
00:22:39.100Yeah, I am far more concerned about the deaths caused to Americans from cartels than the deaths that would be caused to Americans from broken Russian tanks.
00:23:15.200We said this is going to push Russia into the arms of China.
00:23:18.280Russia can't fund their war unless they're selling their oil and gas.
00:23:21.440It happened exactly the way I said it would and the way we warned.
00:23:25.640So Russia is selling their oil and gas to China, to all these countries all over the world, and now BRICS, this association of countries, what is it, Brazil, Russia, India, China, and the Saudis?
00:23:55.560We're about to lose the dollar as the number one, the world's currency.
00:23:58.640And then people will actually feel the pain from the debt.
00:24:00.940Because the only reason people don't feel the pain from this debt day in and day out is the primacy of the dollar.
00:24:05.980And so once you do that, you slaughter the goose that's laid the golden eggs for this country.
00:24:10.600And these women that are voting for their women's health care and these people voting for their student debt loans and these people voting because they think they're saving the planet with the Green New Deal and garbage like that and putting wind farms off the coast of Florida.
00:24:24.280People that vote like that are going to suffer so greatly because the dollar will fall, and it doesn't discriminate when it falls.
00:24:36.000And part of it is just getting these arguments out.
00:24:38.260And one of the platforms you and I have used extensively is the Tucker Carlson Tonight program that sadly is no more on Fox.
00:24:45.740And I thought back to some of the iconic moments you had on that show, and you really broke through with the country when you took what you heard from moms out on the campaign trail and out on our rally tour, and you brought that to millions of viewers each night.
00:25:03.440No, you know, it's what Tucker Carlson did for me.
00:25:07.620When I first got here and everybody canceled me, Matt, you know how badly they canceled me, Tucker Carlson was the only one that would bring me on and actually talk to me and ask me questions.
00:26:01.960Separate from, you know, maybe you just go independent and do your own thing, and I know you and I will be there to support Tucker no matter what he does, but do you worry about what it says about the direction of corporatized media and the ability of populist voices like ours to be able to break through?
00:26:18.100Yeah, and I don't know how you feel about Fox News, but I'll go in on what I think.
00:26:22.960What they've done is they caved to the woke mob.
00:26:25.160They absolutely caved to the woke mob because all these lawsuits, they have the Dominion lawsuit, they have all these other lawsuits coming in, and this is the left.
00:26:49.280To save democracy, they tried to get you off the ballot.
00:26:51.400Right, so to save democracy, they believe in canceling people and silencing their speech, and that's what they think they're doing to Tucker Carlson, and Fox News went along with it.
00:27:00.840Fox News has no idea how badly they're hurting their company.
00:27:04.120Everyone I've talked to has deleted the Fox News app on their phones.
00:27:07.780People are canceling their Fox Nation subscriptions.
00:27:12.840People are saying, I am done with Fox, and then I heard this morning on Fox and Friends, I was watching it.
00:27:17.340They never had me on anyway, so I can talk about them, and I'm not afraid of that.
00:27:21.120I'm not going to be controlled by, oh, shoot, I might hurt.
00:27:25.440So they were talking about the difference of, you know, we need to give moderate Republicans a chance because, you know, it's the MAGA Republicans that may be the problem.
00:27:34.880And that was the angle they were talking about on Fox and Friends, and I was like, okay, you guys fired Tucker Carlson.
00:28:06.280And that is what I think they fear most.
00:28:09.540And it might have been what very powerful entities feared from Tucker Carlson, that he spoke the truth, that he spoke truth to power, that he wasn't controlled, and I know he won't be in his next venture.
00:28:19.320No one controls Marjorie Taylor Greene.
00:28:21.220We're so glad we had her on this, our hundredth episode.
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