The Auron MacIntyre Show - October 07, 2026


Boomer Luxury Communism | Guest: J. Burden | 10⧸7⧸26

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00:00:30.000 hey everybody how's it going thanks for joining me this afternoon i've got a great stream with
00:00:42.880 a great guest that i think you're really going to enjoy we've got a lot going on today we're
00:00:47.580 going to talk about a new survey revealing the truth about boomer luxury communism we have a
00:00:53.640 brand new crash out over the indian immigration issue we have democrats announcing pretty openly
00:00:59.820 that their entire purpose is to replace the american population with foreigners oh and by
00:01:05.200 the way uh breaking news uh they just followed the plot of some kind of muslim guy who's playing
00:01:10.580 to shoot up a bunch of people at the mall of america so we're gonna dive into all of that
00:01:15.200 with our friend jay burden jay thank you so much for coming on man yeah aaron thanks for having me
00:01:20.200 on long time no see yeah yeah yeah we we don't really get to see much about uh jay burden around
00:01:25.800 here he's uh it's always nice when he can make the time to join us uh that said uh we have our
00:01:32.220 first story it's the new survey that came out from the cato institute along with yougov so it's not
00:01:38.560 just cato institute with its uh fun agenda uh however uh cato revealed in this survey that
00:01:45.740 89 percent of people on social security said that they would be willing to tax young people
00:01:52.700 at a higher rate in order to keep those benefits. Now, the problem, of course, is that we've had to
00:01:59.500 hear endlessly from people on the right about the idea that socialism is coming and it's all
00:02:05.480 the young people's fault, right? It's all these stupid young people falling for government
00:02:09.620 assistance programs, believing that they're entitled to something. Ultimately, the young
00:02:14.160 people are falling under the sway of dangerous communists. But by the way, I will steal literally
00:02:19.460 all of your money to make sure that i don't have to work that the program that i was promised
00:02:24.560 stays funded and that i can continue to receive checks in perpetuity so just this amazing dynamic
00:02:31.560 of people running around lecturing lecturing the young people about how they don't do anything
00:02:36.780 they're all lazy why won't you just get off welfare brad we all know that brad is the
00:02:41.800 stereotypical young white man sitting on welfare playing video games instead of earning a living
00:02:46.880 but i need you to go earn that living because ultimately that's how i'm going to pay for all
00:02:51.700 of my cruises at the end of my life now i want to be clear here at the beginning because we're
00:02:56.500 going to do some boomer bashing but obviously this is not all boomers there are plenty of good
00:03:01.220 boomers out there my parents were are you know wonderful about this kind of stuff they were very
00:03:06.260 kind to help out me and my sister make sure that we had houses for our families uh before they went
00:03:12.160 out. Now they take cruises, but they actually put the order of operations, took care of us.
00:03:17.920 So it's not every boomer out there. There are plenty of people who do right by their children,
00:03:22.720 do go out there and make sure that they take care of the next generation. But ultimately,
00:03:27.080 we can see when you get an 89% response, unfortunately, that's not the norm.
00:03:33.820 Oh, 100%. And I mean, look, we understand this is the law of large numbers. There is an exception
00:03:39.620 to every rule. But even if this were merely 7 out of 10 or 6 out of 10, it would be statistically
00:03:46.540 significant. If we had a political race where one candidate won with 89% of the vote, it would be
00:03:53.240 incredibly reasonable to say, this location chose that person. Of course, there are holdouts,
00:03:59.780 we understand. And of course, it's the Cato Institute, we don't like them. So even if you
00:04:05.300 assume a fairly generous fudge factor, this is a significant trend. And why is this a problem?
00:04:11.080 Well, one, because social security has become an albatross around the neck of the American
00:04:16.220 Republic. We understand we spend way too much money on fraud, way too much money on other forms
00:04:21.880 of welfare, but social security is ever ballooning. It is an incredible burden on both the U.S.
00:04:28.660 government and people like you and I are, especially if we're self-employed, who are forced to pay
00:04:34.340 social security tax, which we are unlikely to ever receive again. I'm sure you've had a version
00:04:40.540 of this conversation. You're out in public with someone who's just recently started drawing on
00:04:45.620 social security and they make some sort of joke like, ha, I bet you wish you thought you were
00:04:51.320 ever going to get this, right? I bet you wish you thought you were going to have social security
00:04:55.780 when you retire. Of course, I'm not mad at that person. They're making a sort of tired,
00:05:00.260 hackneyed old joke. But at the same time, they're describing something real. When I went to business
00:05:06.040 school not all that long ago, they all told me, save for your own retirement, social security
00:05:11.800 will not be there by the time you retire. The mathematics on this has been done. We understand
00:05:17.400 this program is continually just a few years away from going completely and totally bust.
00:05:23.020 And the idea that we will be able to keep propping up this failing system for that long
00:05:28.400 is sort of laughable, but also because where does this wealth come from? Where is it redistributed
00:05:34.620 from? Is it just a giant government-sponsored piggy bank where they take your tax, stick it
00:05:40.560 in a bank account, and give it back to you at the end? No, that money's gone instantly. What they're
00:05:46.920 doing is robbing from people who are working now, the present, young people, in order to soften the
00:05:53.720 retirement of old people. And look, you might say, hey, isn't that a pyramid scheme? Oh yeah,
00:06:00.860 no, it's totally a pyramid scheme. It just existed where it was built in a time where
00:06:05.840 we had a population pyramid. There were more young people than old people. The ratio of workers to
00:06:12.060 recipients was about 10 to one. It's nowhere near that now. It has become proportionally a bigger
00:06:18.460 and bigger problem. And the devilish part about it is one, it is the political third rail,
00:06:23.240 at least in the current political environment we're in. If you touch it, your political career
00:06:27.720 is over. But also, the way this spending is allocated is non-discretionary. It doesn't go
00:06:34.140 up for a vote in the same way that our traditional budget bills do. It's hard-coded. It's very
00:06:40.220 difficult to get out. And sure, I feel sympathy for the people who built their lives on the
00:06:45.900 assumption that this program would be there. The government lied to them. Guess what? The
00:06:50.500 government lies to everyone. But just because you have been lied to does not grant you the moral
00:06:55.960 license to, I don't know, ruin the nation for every generation that comes after you.
00:07:02.280 It is truly amazing because as you say, this joke gets made all the time. I've heard it from
00:07:07.220 lots of retired people. Well, I guess I was the last one who was going to get this. We're the
00:07:11.860 last generation. You guys are never going to see this. And it's incredible that that comes out of
00:07:17.580 the mouth of people but then they also feel entitled to that money as you say they say well
00:07:23.100 i paid into this and so it's not an entitlement it's me getting my money back now of course we
00:07:28.280 all know that's not true as you point out that money is spent immediately it's a ponzi scheme
00:07:33.400 that's why they started paying out social security bits benefits as soon as they started collecting
00:07:38.140 the tax because the money was not going from you to some savings account that you then unlock
00:07:44.220 when you hit a certain age they take your money now you pay for the old people and then in theory
00:07:49.080 if they're still you know young people later on they pay for you but as you point out the
00:07:54.380 population is going down birth rates are going down we can't expect infinite growth forever
00:08:00.400 and that's what the entire program was built on is this idea that the population would always be
00:08:05.660 growing we'd always be paying more and more in and so ultimately we know this has to end and
00:08:10.960 that's what makes several things very frustrating first if you as a boomer know that your entire
00:08:17.880 social security is being paid for by people who won't get social security if we don't have a bunch
00:08:22.760 of kids well then at the very least you would think you have some duty to encourage family
00:08:27.600 formation to care about the birth rate to care about people having children because if they don't
00:08:33.420 then obviously the program is doomed either way but not only do we often get mocked saying hey
00:08:39.320 well you're just not going to collect this benefit good thing you're paying it for me now
00:08:43.420 and uh you know i guess you're just the one stuck holding you know the potato at the end of the
00:08:47.940 game but also you have a scenario where they're not even encouraging or even caring in general
00:08:54.000 about the perpetuation of the country the continuation of their heritage but in addition
00:09:00.960 they don't even care that the in the decrease in population is going to impact those payments they
00:09:07.620 don't even care about the very thing family formation and having children that will ultimately
00:09:11.780 allow something like this to continue if that was even possible so there are so many contradictions
00:09:17.180 in the way that this is approached and then of course again we have to hear about oh well you
00:09:22.560 know if only you were working harder you'd be able to afford a home you know don't don't you
00:09:26.820 know buy so much avocado toast or you know rotisserie chickens or whatever luxury uh we
00:09:32.040 happen to be uh needing to forego this week in order to buy a basic starter home before the age
00:09:37.380 of 50, you're in the scenario where the vast majority of benefits in the economy and from
00:09:44.240 the government are going to old people. We have warped the entire housing market around keeping
00:09:51.020 housing prices high because so many boomers didn't save for retirement and many of them
00:09:57.520 need the housing price to stay high so that they can do a reverse mortgage or sell the thing off
00:10:03.540 and pay for their retirement along with the social security and so you have in an artificially
00:10:08.460 inflated housing market for this express reason a lot of the reason that we have embraced illegal
00:10:14.680 immigration and open borders was to create a large amount of labor arbitrage for older people who
00:10:21.560 don't want to mow their lawns and don't want to take care of their homes all of these things are
00:10:26.140 being done to benefit older people the entire economy is wrapped around this idea that we
00:10:32.100 should bleed the young in order to pay for the old. And the only way that works is if we know
00:10:38.320 we're going to continually have a large amount of young people having children. But that is exactly
00:10:43.880 what is not encouraged. That is the lowest thing on the totem pole for many people in this
00:10:49.220 demographic. And so I think when people look at a number like 89% saying, yes, of course,
00:10:55.560 I would be more than happy to take more money from young people to continue to live life the
00:11:00.360 way I'm living it, they get pretty fed up hearing about how they're the ones who are embracing
00:11:04.680 socialism. So yeah, let's look at that phrase, boomer luxury communism. It's a great term,
00:11:13.320 right? When I saw that Russ Green had cornered that, it was sort of one of those, why didn't I
00:11:18.120 think of that phrase moments, but it sounds over the top, right? It sounds sort of bombastic,
00:11:22.800 but it's really not for a couple of reasons. Let's take the communism element. If you look
00:11:27.520 at the rates of wealth distribution. The rate of distribution from the young to the old in the U.S.
00:11:35.360 is remarkably higher than first our peer nations, nations like England or New Zealand,
00:11:41.820 but it's also significantly higher than China, a nominally communist nation. There is more wealth
00:11:49.860 redistribution going on here in the free West than there is in nominally communist countries.
00:11:56.560 I realize someone is going to say, China isn't meaningfully communist. One, potato, tomato,
00:12:02.380 whatever, but also, graded on a curve, they are more communist than we are, right? Again,
00:12:07.600 at least according to the map. Now, the luxury part. Look, I think we all know people on social
00:12:14.100 security who are genuinely struggling. I think of my recently departed great-grandmother,
00:12:19.840 a woman who had no high school diploma, had a family, had a house, but was very, very poor,
00:12:25.500 lived on Social Security. I would not consider her circumstances luxurious at all.
00:12:31.120 But we have to understand that the more you pay into Social Security, the more you get out. Now,
00:12:36.960 of course, there's an upper bound to that, but it is possible to get over $60,000 a year
00:12:42.220 from Social Security. In addition to whatever assets you have, whatever you can sell off to
00:12:49.080 fund your lifestyle, which even if that's one person, $60,000 a year and not working,
00:12:55.160 that's pretty good. Assuming, of course, you have no other assets left, which if you were at the top
00:13:01.500 end of that income bracket throughout your life, you're very unlikely to have spent it all the
00:13:06.680 moment you decided to get Social Security. But there's more elements to this. Programs like
00:13:12.140 Medicaid Advantage offered an immense amount of benefits that you and I do not have access to.
00:13:18.220 Of course, it funds health care, which I'm not sure if you've checked on is kind of expensive. You know, as someone who has a baby on the way, I'm painfully aware of the fact that health care is ruinously expensive. But it also funds things like gym membership, golf fees, horseback riding lessons, pet food, things that, OK, are sure things you might want to do in your life.
00:13:42.780 But at the point where the government is funding those, where young working families are funding these luxuries, is this what the program was designed for? Is this the sort of thing that's keeping women like my great-grandmother from starving in her old age?
00:13:57.600 No, these programs have gotten absolutely ludicrous.
00:14:01.140 And realistically, no one has been talking about this.
00:14:04.240 Sure, in Europe, they have had to confront the realities of austerity, largely because
00:14:10.300 some of them are real countries and have to deal with economics more so than we do because,
00:14:16.080 well, we're in charge of the world and we own the money printing machine.
00:14:19.420 That helps.
00:14:20.720 But this is an issue that has full bipartisan support.
00:14:24.980 There has been no reform to this program. And if anything, the dialogue is increasing the benefits for seniors, reducing tax on Social Security. And look, I don't want old people to be poor and miserable. That's not my point. But what we are doing is mortgaging the future, mortgaging the lives and wealth of young people to let boomers ride horses for free, let them join a golf club. It's completely and totally unreasonable.
00:14:53.020 well and as you have said this is the third rail it's untouchable uh donald trump knew this that's
00:15:01.100 why the very first thing he did when everybody else was talking about uh you know welfare reform
00:15:06.500 or something in the republican primaries he said i'm never touching this stuff social security
00:15:11.100 all this like i'm not medicare medicaid it's all safe don't worry about it i'm never going to touch
00:15:15.540 it because ultimately donald trump is not ideological he just wants to get elected he
00:15:19.780 didn't care so he just came out there and said the obvious which is no one's going to vote for me if
00:15:24.020 i say a single thing about cutting this so i'm just not going to the end i don't care whether
00:15:28.700 or not the program works or not whether it'll be there later on i don't care about the survivability
00:15:33.720 or what it's doing to the united states ultimately i want to be elected talking about this make sure
00:15:39.420 you don't get elected so i'm just going to say i'm never going to touch it and move on this creates a
00:15:44.120 huge problem because for instance like matt walsh was out there talking about this yesterday and god
00:15:47.900 bless him, you know, like Matt and everything. But he was saying, oh, well, you know, no one
00:15:51.960 will talk about this. I know it's politically unpopular, so I'll talk about it. And everything
00:15:55.440 he said was true, of course. You know, it's an albatross. It's going to end the country. It's
00:16:00.160 going to bankrupt us. It's fundamentally unfair. All of these things are true. But ultimately,
00:16:04.980 we all know we're not getting rid of this program. It's not happening. There's zero
00:16:09.780 reason to even discuss the electoral possibility of removing Social Security. Because in a
00:16:16.920 democracy, nobody ever votes for less money. It just doesn't happen. And seniors are the dominant
00:16:23.620 voting group in the United States. They have the time that they need to do it. They have nothing
00:16:28.880 but time and attention to give to politics to be active in this way. They also are dependent on
00:16:34.940 the government in most cases and so are very active in opposing any cuts there and will ensure
00:16:40.080 and put pressure on any politician to make sure that that never happens. And so the only way that
00:16:45.960 we ever get rid of social security is one we literally in democracy like this is a regime
00:16:51.700 complete problem you cannot continue to have a democratic country in america you know we'll have
00:16:57.820 a democratic process and get rid of social security it will not happen the only other option is the
00:17:04.080 program just sinks the entire country there's no way we're ending this program before it destroys
00:17:09.580 us to be very clear and so we have this very strange scenario where everyone can see the edge
00:17:15.160 of the cliff. Everyone knows that we're heading towards the edge of the cliff at exactly the same
00:17:19.660 rate we've been heading there for the last 30 to 40 years. And yet, we cannot, in our current
00:17:25.880 system, address this issue. And this is why I think more and more people are talking about the
00:17:30.900 problems of democracy. Because when you look at a scenario like this, where you know the country
00:17:35.520 is doomed fiscally, like there's just no way that this program can continue with our current birth
00:17:40.800 rates and our current payout rates. It cannot happen. And yet we also know that the issue is
00:17:47.120 completely unable to be addressed by the electoral system. We will not get candidates who will ever
00:17:54.380 promise to actually do anything. And even if they did, even if they somehow by some miracle got
00:17:59.020 elected, Congress would not do this. They would not do this. Supreme Court would find some kind
00:18:04.360 of promise was made and ultimately you can't get rid of the program or lower courts would do that
00:18:08.980 for them ultimately we know there's just no way to actually solve this problem so while it is
00:18:15.820 like absolutely this time bomb in the financial uh life of america like basically you know you've
00:18:22.980 just got this bomb vest strapped to you that's ticking ultimately there's literally no way to
00:18:27.880 remove it because you have a scenario where every incentive inside your political system says keep
00:18:34.180 lying to people keep telling them that you're going to pay it out keep paying it out no matter
00:18:38.120 what because these people who are receiving these payments they're the ones who are electing you
00:18:43.420 and if you ever tell them anything other than what they want to hear they're completely going
00:18:47.320 to abandon you and so we're just it's just an amazing thing it's just a car crash that you
00:18:52.340 know is going to happen you can't look away you can't stop it and yet we have to hear the whole
00:18:58.280 time how actually it's the young people who are the socialists they're the ones who need to get
00:19:02.500 out there and do some work at the end of the day. And I think it's ironic, of course, that many of
00:19:08.500 these boomer conservatives came of kind of political awareness during the era of Ronald
00:19:13.260 Reagan, because who was the last person to reform social security? It was Ronald Reagan. He increased
00:19:20.000 the taxes for it. He raised the age. He limited benefits. He took this seriously. Whatever other
00:19:25.660 criticisms we may have of Ronald Reagan, that was a wise move. It has been done. And if this
00:19:32.780 program is going to continue, it needs to be done again. There's no way around it. The math simply
00:19:38.140 does not work out. And there's this sort of devious cycle of how this system works to affect
00:19:44.980 people like you and me are. And it sort of runs like this. So obviously you have the taxes that
00:19:50.500 fund seniors taxes on working people. But wait, that doesn't cover the cost. So we need to borrow
00:19:57.840 money to transfer even more money to boomers. Of course, these are loans where you and I are
00:20:03.480 guaranteeing it. We're the ones paying it back. But wait, there's more because, of course, that
00:20:09.120 debt creates inflation, which obviously makes us poorer directly, slows the growth of the economy.
00:20:16.800 And over time, look, as someone who's lived through the last several years, that hurts your lifetime income, your effective purchasing power over the course of your life, screwing you over in yet another way.
00:20:30.000 And then, don't worry about this, you get taxed again, right?
00:20:34.540 Because you have to pay that debt back.
00:20:38.240 So really, you're getting hit coming and going.
00:20:41.240 It is completely and totally ruinous to young people.
00:20:44.980 the people that we need to be at least wealthy enough to have enough children to keep the
00:20:50.160 pyramid scheme going, right? We've seen this with, for instance, asset prices on things like homes.
00:20:56.460 If you need space to, or you think you need, I'm not looking to get into that discussion,
00:21:00.860 enough space to have children. Well, if you can't afford that until you're 35 or 40,
00:21:05.420 a discussion for another day, but another very worrying trend. Well, all of a sudden,
00:21:09.960 Even if you are just absolutely baby crazy, you got a limited runway there. It is harder to hit replacement, let alone the sort of population pyramid necessary to keep this pyramid scheme going when those four forces are halting the economic empowerment, if we can use sort of a lefty phrasing, to get young people to actually succeed.
00:21:34.960 We understand that, right? That needs to be a system in which most people feel that they have
00:21:41.040 a stake. Because look, if you think, hey, social security is a program that may benefit me in some
00:21:47.020 way, you're probably going to keep it around. But setting aside the attitudes of boomers,
00:21:52.040 if we look at the attitudes of everyone else, if everyone else realizes or everyone else fears that
00:21:57.360 this is a program that they have no interest in, well, we see exactly what we get. This sort of
00:22:02.960 bitter intergenerational fight that even if rational is not particularly healthy. I don't
00:22:08.420 want to live in a society where people are bifurcated along an age line. They're mad at
00:22:13.480 their grandparents. They're mad at their grandchildren. But social security has created
00:22:17.520 a situation in which it's a zero sum game. One group gets richer. The other gets poor.
00:22:22.800 And ideally, I don't want those kind of fault lines to be running through the American populace.
00:22:27.960 yeah and this is really again one of those scenarios that just democracy seems to make
00:22:34.860 inevitable as you point out it seems to make generational warfare inevitable it seems to
00:22:40.580 make the war between the sexes inevitable you have this situation where every part of your country
00:22:48.120 every aspect of life because it's being negotiated by the government at some level ultimately becomes
00:22:54.400 a political project because a political weapon and so you put all these demographics that should
00:22:58.900 be working together against each other the young versus the old men versus women in every scenario
00:23:04.580 you have this incentive to kind of bifurcate your society and have it go to war over every given
00:23:11.080 issue because it generates political energy and so it's just you know there's just no way out of
00:23:16.700 this it feels like and this is again why why the problems are regime complete right why you just
00:23:23.020 ultimately are not going to see any of this shift unless there is a very, very, very big shakeup
00:23:28.640 in the way we do politics in the United States. And I don't know if there's an appetite for that.
00:23:34.540 I feel like Trump was a hint that there was an appetite for that. But obviously, the fact that
00:23:40.000 what we got was kind of an administration that, to their credit, is trying to run a broken system
00:23:45.120 as well as possible instead of one that understood that replacing the system was the goal.
00:23:50.340 that's a problem and you hope that the next time around if we get another time around uh that
00:23:56.320 ultimately the you know guys totally get the assignment that you know the the job is to go
00:24:00.900 with at the the whole thing and find ways to actually solve problems like this because you
00:24:06.240 know as we're both saying in this scenario we're just kind of locked out of any possible solution
00:24:10.560 through the electoral uh mechanism and so uh i you know as frustrating as the luxury boomer
00:24:16.220 communism is it seems like it's just going to be with us until it banks or bank erupts us and then
00:24:21.420 we're forced to deal with the issue in some kind of radical way that said there's plenty of else
00:24:27.220 uh plenty of other things going on in the news uh i'll just start with the breaking news since
00:24:32.480 it's something that we know very little about uh but uh we got uh just before we got went live here
00:24:40.800 We heard that there is apparently a attempted attack or there was a plotting of an attack by a guy who was trying to support ISIS with some kind of Star Wars name, Shek Dundun Abdullah Muhammad, that ultimately was planning to shoot up the Mall of America because, of course, it's, you know, it's got to be Minnesota.
00:25:04.800 and you have this scenario where they expected to kill 30 to 60 people just one more reminder that
00:25:14.040 we should be ending all muslim immigration i just saw ted cruz running around talking about how
00:25:19.760 he thinks there could be iranian sleeper cells in the united states planning terror attacks
00:25:24.480 well i don't know ted could we end immigration from places like iran that seems like the most
00:25:30.700 obvious response but for some reason
00:25:32.800 we still are allowing
00:25:34.540 Muslims into the country
00:25:36.680 that said that's all we really know
00:25:38.740 at the moment so no reason to dive
00:25:40.660 too deep into that story
00:25:42.720 however
00:25:43.740 this video caused a very
00:25:46.680 interesting series of events
00:25:48.880 so let's watch Vivek Ramaswamy
00:25:51.140 attempt to pick up a child
00:25:52.900 there you go
00:25:55.840 so number one
00:26:00.700 I don't want to hear about how you and I are losing Vivek Ramaswamy,
00:26:05.940 his race in Ohio.
00:26:06.980 Okay.
00:26:07.300 Like,
00:26:07.540 I just don't,
00:26:08.420 I don't want to hear ever again from Republicans about how,
00:26:11.880 you know,
00:26:12.380 it's,
00:26:12.800 it's all these negative Nancy's on podcasts that are doing this guy's run.
00:26:17.760 But obviously like the fact that he went down to try to spontaneous moment.
00:26:22.160 Yeah.
00:26:22.400 I'll just hoist this kid up.
00:26:23.920 And then like immediately almost dropped him directly is rather hilarious.
00:26:27.720 so uh aaron if you had to guess what is the official internet height listed for vivek ramishwamy
00:26:35.280 oh five seven uh he says he's 5 11
00:26:42.580 take what you will from that i can't believe aaron you and i are making this nearly six
00:26:51.340 foot tall man who apparently struggles to pick up a moderately sized 10 year old uh lose his race
00:26:57.720 yes it's uh it's an embarrassing moment to be sure but that that should have been the beginning
00:27:03.060 and the end of it right like oh funny thing uh vivek's kind of weak uh obviously uh not not
00:27:09.220 exactly uh maybe you should have spent less time at the spelling bee and more time in football
00:27:13.620 practice uh you might be able to lift the average american uh child uh so that said uh that's not
00:27:20.960 ultimately how we got responses so I have not been paying a lot of attention to Dinesh D'Souza
00:27:28.480 in a while I used to be on Dinesh's show all the time he kind of freaked out on the whole Israel
00:27:33.320 thing I had a debate with him he was pretty cordial during it but afterwards I just never
00:27:37.300 heard back from the guy and I didn't want to end up you know clashing with him constantly so I just
00:27:41.560 kind of muted him on Twitter and then I saw a lot of people uh posting the uh what Dinesh's response
00:27:48.860 to Vivek dropping this child was and so I had to go I had to figure this out because this was just
00:27:53.740 too insane so Vivek drops this kid or almost drops this kid and Dinesh's response is to run out and
00:28:02.700 dox the child like it's not you could have just made the argument okay that's that's a pretty big
00:28:09.340 kid um it still would be embarrassing to not be able to lift a 10 year old um but okay he's larger
00:28:17.200 than your average 10 year old it's not like a he's not like he's five i get it okay the fact
00:28:22.060 probably should have gauged his ability to lift children before making the move but fine i i can
00:28:27.320 hear that argument but the fact that he turned around and dropped the kid's name and place like
00:28:34.580 where he lived is insane like this is psychotic behavior to run around doxing children and then
00:28:42.340 he insults the kid by calling him fat as if as if it's the kid's fault that vivek tried to
00:28:48.940 scoop him up and his tiny little arms could not carry a 10 year old child
00:28:53.480 he decides that the real villain here is a 10 year old kid in ohio and he has to let everyone
00:29:01.520 know where that kid lives so he can be mocked as a fat like it's insane it's insane like what are
00:29:08.460 we doing here well i i don't know why but the line from dinesh he's not that small and quite
00:29:16.100 obviously he's also resisting as if this is like a police body game
00:29:20.900 with a knife and is running
00:29:26.020 incredibly funny and obviously releasing the kid's location age and name is such a weird reaction
00:29:38.120 because this isn't the kid's fault his parents brought him to a political rally said yeah you
00:29:43.580 could go up on stage why do we need to know who he is to judge if he is too heavy for a
00:29:49.680 gubernatorial candidate to lift as if that's a relevant political discussion whatsoever again
00:29:56.200 this should be just a mildly embarrassing political occurrence these happen all the time
00:30:02.320 mumdani not being able to bench press a whole lot of weight we got some chuckles out of it whatever
00:30:07.260 he got elected. Who cares? The real story is that Dinesh D'Souza, a man who has spent quite a lot
00:30:13.820 of time going after people for engaging in identity politics. If you're a fan of the term
00:30:19.620 anarcho-tyranny coined by Sam Francis, you may be interested to know that the reason Sam Francis
00:30:24.080 got fired from his job is one Dinesh D'Souza. Why did he get Sam Francis fired? Well, he was a vile
00:30:30.560 racist, engaged in identity politics, did the sort of thing you're not allowed to do in the
00:30:35.160 conservative movement so pin that thought while we explore de souza's broader reaction to this
00:30:42.200 depleted uranium 10 year old yeah yeah want to be clear not only did he get sam francis fired he
00:30:47.820 literally then wrote a book about the evils of identity politics like this is this he he wrote
00:30:54.620 an entire tome about how you shouldn't do this very thing and by the way just the fact that he
00:30:59.780 hunted down the kids information like i don't even know did he was it in an article somewhere
00:31:04.860 did he have to go on some deep dive is he sitting somewhere paying people on the dark web to hunt
00:31:09.820 down this 10 year old i just it it's it's so bizarre but yeah let's let's look at some more
00:31:15.480 of his reactions so of course we see uh dinesh making ai images uh mocking white people because
00:31:25.540 of course they're all fat and their children are all fat and only if you're a fat white person
00:31:30.380 could you imagine lifting a 10 year old child yeah this is some superhuman feat by the way i do love
00:31:37.140 the the no resisting thing it's like yeah man if a if a random indian guy tries to grab you kids
00:31:42.640 don't resist that's really important um but the fact that he went out of his way and and his his
00:31:48.720 attempt has been to say that groopers and white nationalists like this is he's he's trying to say
00:31:53.800 racist but he can't he knows he can't say racist because that's left-coded so it's like when um
00:31:59.400 all the anti-christian nationalist guys were running around calling people kinists like they
00:32:03.740 had to invent new words uh or or reappropriate words in order to just call someone racist again
00:32:09.720 um you know same thing here like he's trying just call all these people like fat racist
00:32:15.740 uh it's incredible that he thought that this was going to be some kind of rebuttal that this
00:32:20.900 this is going to be some kind of slam dunk when i pointed out that like this was a sign of him
00:32:26.500 uh you know really not assimilating like when you feel that it's so necessary to run out and
00:32:33.120 defend your co-ethnics and it's just like after being in the country for decades and decades
00:32:38.460 i pointed out that like this this is really a sign that perhaps the assimilation never occurred
00:32:44.140 he's like oh well it looks like some people can't take a joke he's like you literally are
00:32:49.560 doxing kids because vivek dropped them who can't take the joke who can't laugh at themselves here
00:32:54.960 like it's just incredible well there's a couple things one the more i'm thinking about this i
00:33:00.640 don't know exactly what the break-even point for a kid being too old to pick up in a way that's
00:33:08.180 like cute or endearing but it's south of 10 like maybe a five-year-old that's still kind of a bit
00:33:13.900 large whatever you know i get it okay it was a spur-of-the-moment decision but here's another
00:33:19.360 element. What would you have to put into AI to generate an image like this? What terms would you
00:33:26.120 use? What's that prompt look like? Yeah. And hypothetically, if I decided, you know what,
00:33:31.520 I'll really own Dinesh. I'll create an alternate image of an Indian man. Well, what would I have
00:33:38.240 to type? Would it be something that the AI one would accept, but two people would say, well,
00:33:45.340 If you described a disgusting, fat Indian man lifting up a disturbed child, people would
00:33:51.320 say, I don't know, man, that seems like at the very least racially tinged, racially toned.
00:33:56.320 It has an element of, I don't know, some sort of identitarian politics.
00:34:01.100 We'll come up with a better name for it later, maybe even write a book about it.
00:34:04.240 But clearly, this is a man who sees race, who sees color.
00:34:09.060 Obviously, you could not generate such an image if you were the archetypal colorblind
00:34:14.380 conservative.
00:34:15.340 Clearly, this is a argument based off of a racial angle. Now, I don't in aggregate have a problem
00:34:23.020 with that. I don't think that's an inconsiderate or an illegitimate thing to do in certain
00:34:27.600 circumstances, but it's a very hard thing to do when you have argued that one, you are just as
00:34:33.400 American and assimilated as anyone else. There's nothing especially Indian about you when you leap
00:34:38.580 to the defense of your co-ethnics. And also you seem to jump at every chance to disparage the
00:34:44.520 people who live here, the people who have 10-year-old children at Republican political rallies
00:34:49.740 because they're too fat, inconceivably fat to lift up as an allegedly 5'11 grown man.
00:34:57.300 What's going on here? Clearly, this is a man who understands that all politics is identity politics,
00:35:03.600 just not for you. That's wrong. It's okay when I do it.
00:35:08.300 Well, and here's the even more incredible thing, right? So he turns around,
00:35:12.200 and let me see where i put it he turns around and he starts redefining nationalism he starts to say
00:35:22.220 that nationalism and patriotism are different things that he ultimately believes in patriotism
00:35:29.540 but not in nationalism so now we have to start deconstructing nationalism right like over and
00:35:35.980 over again. Very interestingly, Dinesh previously has defended nationalism explicitly. He said that
00:35:44.820 George Washington, Abraham Lincoln were great nationalists. He even said that Gandhi was a great
00:35:50.480 nationalist. So it turns out that everyone does support nationalism for the people they care
00:35:56.040 about. And back when Dinesh was, I guess, identifying himself as American, he thought
00:36:01.460 american nationalism was pretty good and defensible too but now because he feels like his co-ethnics
00:36:07.320 are under attack dinesh is magically not american and therefore nationalism is bad and we need
00:36:13.320 patriotism instead and we see this over and over again the need to have a revolution over american
00:36:20.240 identity the minute we think that there might be a question about american identity we need to
00:36:25.880 completely make it on something we cannot define something that's out there that's ambient it's
00:36:31.660 tied to something like ideas or propositions or you know just your location inside of geography
00:36:37.560 all of a sudden we can't have nationalism anymore and it's incredible because again
00:36:42.340 Dinesh D'Souza has lived in the United States for decades he is a Christian he intermarried
00:36:49.440 his children intermarried in a couple decades you might not even be able to tell ultimately
00:36:55.200 in a few generations who Dinesh's descendants were they just might seem like American it seems
00:37:01.440 like Dinesh should be the ultimate assimilation case right like I remember reading books by Dinesh
00:37:07.800 D'Souza about how great America was when I was young and thinking they were pretty smart and so
00:37:12.740 it's incredible to watch the entire case for assimilation almost be dismantled by this man
00:37:18.780 in one swoop like before this i i literally gave a speech in texas a few weeks ago where i used
00:37:26.500 as a relatively good example of what it looks like to have real assimilation by indians into
00:37:32.920 american culture and it appears i was wrong it appears that that assimilation can just
00:37:38.180 poof disappear after decades and decades of you know political american political commentary i
00:37:44.200 mean how many indians were active in american political commentary two decades ago it was
00:37:49.500 dinesh d'Souza right like that was it and so the idea that this guy now seems to care more about
00:37:55.020 defending random indian people he doesn't even know instead of you know keeping the same line
00:38:02.540 on american identity he's had for decades again like i don't want to believe that it's impossible
00:38:08.040 for people to assimilate but when you look at something like this and watch the heel turn like
00:38:12.120 the mask just gets ripped off. It's like, wow, okay. Maybe it really is almost impossible for
00:38:18.780 people to assimilate when they're this culturally distant. I don't know. Yeah. And I mean, look,
00:38:25.740 I think that part of that thought is, well, at least understandable. The idea is, okay, well,
00:38:35.180 if someone takes on our culture, if someone marries in, well, maybe that's how we can make
00:38:39.760 it work. But Dinesh is basically the ideal test candidate. He did everything you were supposed to.
00:38:46.760 He got involved in Republican politics. The American values we're constantly reminded of.
00:38:52.740 And what happens? What does it take to get him to sort of revert to factory settings?
00:38:58.700 Is it something dramatic? No, it's a minorly embarrassing clip from a political rally.
00:39:06.040 right like this wasn't a hate crime it's not like someone went out and murdered a bunch of indians
00:39:10.900 because they're indians or scrawled indian go home on the side of a building even or something like
00:39:16.180 that it's literally just oh looks like the next kind of week that's it like that's it that's all
00:39:21.800 it took for him to go on this crash out like you i don't even understand like what possesses you to
00:39:27.880 shred decades and decades of credibility on something well and i'm sure you've seen it's
00:39:33.980 not particularly notable enough to bring up, but he's been posting this clip of a kid from Texas
00:39:39.120 who is Indian, who's a, you know, talented power lifter. I think he's top 20 in the state for his
00:39:45.140 weight and age group saying, look, this proves that Indians can be strong. And it's like,
00:39:51.160 dog, I don't know if anyone was denying that there is no single Indian in the world who is strong
00:39:55.980 enough to lift up a 10 year old child. I'm sure they've made one or two. There's a, there's a
00:40:00.320 billion of them you know just based off of math alone at least some person in that country can
00:40:05.020 pick up your average ohioan 10 year old the point is about vivek him in particular embarrassing
00:40:11.840 himself on stage and the fact that you are seething to this level that you are completely
00:40:17.220 losing all composure burning a political career over what it's incredibly embarrassing even
00:40:24.100 setting aside the massive hypocrisy well and you know it's like okay so there's there's one seven
00:40:30.580 foot chinese basketball player so in general chinese people must be seven foot tall right
00:40:35.520 like all of a sudden we forget what per capita is for the people we care about i guess right like
00:40:40.180 that's another another good slogan everyone everyone forgets about per capita for the people
00:40:45.000 they actually care about but yeah it is truly bizarre and look here's why this problem is
00:40:49.640 becoming more and more salient, right? Because now we see two Indian American guys elected to
00:40:56.980 Congress, and what do they want to do? They want to change the H-1B program so that visas can be
00:41:03.920 renewed without ever leaving the U.S. Now, why do two Indian men care so much about the H-1B visa?
00:41:09.740 Oh, because it's basically just an ethnic visa for Indians. 70% of H-1B visas go to Indians.
00:41:17.060 So they're not doing this because they generally care about the situation for H-1B workers or think they're incredibly valuable to the economy or anything like that. They're doing it because their co-ethnics abuse that particular visa. And this is how they can get people who look like them and share their culture into the country so they will vote for them.
00:41:36.680 And this is the problem with diaspora politics, okay?
00:41:40.600 As soon as people are in the door, their job becomes holding the door open until enough people come in who look like them, think like them, worship what they worship, so that ultimately they can start demanding concessions, extracting concessions.
00:41:54.700 This is why I get so frustrated when I have to hear, oh, well, don't you know there's only so many of these type of people, Indians, Somalians, whatever, in the country?
00:42:02.440 Yes, I'm aware.
00:42:03.420 The problem is they're extremely tribal, and they're going to vote with their people, the people who look like them, share their culture, and they're going to import more of them, and you're not.
00:42:13.100 They get to play identity politics, and you don't.
00:42:15.840 So they're going to win, because identity politics win in a democracy.
00:42:20.220 That's it.
00:42:21.340 That's the end of the story.
00:42:22.740 Just like we know that we're never voting our way out of Social Security, we are never voting our way out of Indian immigration once enough Indians are here.
00:42:31.780 They could all be great people.
00:42:33.420 it doesn't matter. It's not a test of each individual person and how good or bad they are.
00:42:39.120 I'm sure there are plenty of great Indian people in the United States, but in aggregate, when you
00:42:43.600 get enough people together, this is how they behave. They behave tribally, and we can see this
00:42:48.260 from Dinesh, who in any other day would probably oppose these people, but when he thinks that
00:42:56.020 someone is in a category with him, when he thinks he shares something that's deeper than even
00:43:00.860 American identity with somebody all of a sudden he's willing to throw away decades and decades
00:43:06.320 on the American right so that he can run out and defend somebody over nothing over over something
00:43:11.520 that should be a non-issue and the only explanatory factor is they're both Indian they're co-ethnic
00:43:18.140 and that matters more than his history in the conservative movement it matters more than even
00:43:24.100 the ideologies he's espoused like being pro-nationalism ultimately that's all that
00:43:29.320 matters and you have to grasp this dynamic you have to again like that doesn't mean there aren't
00:43:35.540 good people from these countries but it does mean you have to care about what the impact of large
00:43:40.280 numbers of people from those countries coming over to the united states looks like you have to care
00:43:44.900 all right one more thing before we go uh this is just going to be a uh obviously but you know
00:43:52.860 worth repeating anyway so right before you know the midterms you thought republicans were doing
00:43:57.880 the only disastrous things before the midterms but don't worry democrats are doing it too here
00:44:02.280 is bernie sanders announcing that he supports uh amnesty for illegals and that is the plan as soon
00:44:07.720 as democrats get into power and what we have got to do is move this country as soon as possible
00:44:15.700 to comprehensive immigration reform and a path toward citizenship now of course i'll remind
00:44:22.580 people that bernie sanders literally said that open borders was a koch brothers scheme it was
00:44:27.420 a right-wing libertarian scheme to make sure that workers get paid less so Bernie Sanders is not a
00:44:33.100 man of principle anybody who tells you that the well at least the left had Bernie Sanders and
00:44:37.260 and he was trying to fight for no no he's not no he's a he's a tool of the party he says exactly
00:44:43.020 what they tell him to say they tell him to get on board with open borders he gets on board with it
00:44:46.740 and he pushes for amnesty this is what the Democrats are planning and of course the one-two
00:44:50.740 punch of here's Chuck Schumer saying yeah we totally need to replace the American population
00:44:56.000 We have to. Now more than ever, we're short of workers. We have a population that is not
00:45:03.920 reproducing it on its own with the same level that it used to. The only way we're going to
00:45:09.900 have a great future in America is if we welcome and embrace immigrants, the dreamers and all of
00:45:15.520 them, because our ultimate goal is to help the dreamers, but get a path to citizenship for all
00:45:20.100 11 million or however many undocumented there are however many there happen to be yeah but just
00:45:26.820 an open admission guys the great replacement is not a conspiracy theory the great replacement is
00:45:31.920 not some kind of crazy thing that white supremacists dreamed up it's literally the policy of the
00:45:37.860 democratic party it's chuck schumer on a microphone saying yeah i guess we're not having enough babies
00:45:42.500 so rather than i don't know care about your nation care about encouraging them to have children
00:45:47.320 maybe encourage them to stop aborting their children if we just stopped abortions by the way
00:45:52.600 our entire birth rate problem would reverse immediately but instead of addressing any of
00:45:57.320 those issues we're just going to import the third world and by the way we want to make it clear it's
00:46:01.640 not just about the dreamers we intend to go ahead and give amnesty to all of the illegals in the
00:46:07.520 united states however many that happens to be which the number is not 11 million it's not even
00:46:11.800 approaching 11 million. It's a way, way higher number. But Democrats aren't hiding the ball at
00:46:18.340 all. This is what they're literally campaigning on right before the midterms. Well, and it's one
00:46:22.940 of those things that's incredibly transparent for those with eyes to see. The way the game works is
00:46:27.880 they're allowed to say it. And if you notice it, well, you're an evil white supremacist.
00:46:33.640 You are, like Sam Francis, the sort of person that needs to be perched. And unfortunately,
00:46:38.780 many conservatives, will go along with pressure coming from their left. This is why it matters.
00:46:43.900 This is why we keep banging on the drum, because obviously, Oren, our enemies aren't going to like
00:46:49.780 us, sort of baked into the concept of being enemies. The real problem is that, well, they
00:46:54.920 are often aided and abetted by the conservative movement. It seems as if we're sort of in the
00:47:00.560 offing for another great conservative purge. It's been going on for a while now. If you saw what
00:47:05.800 happened with Eric Erickson. Seems like they're trying to get another one started. And what
00:47:10.040 happens over and over and over again? Well, for the rhinos, it's convenient for them not to have
00:47:16.520 any competition, right? They like to be the king of the roost. And also secretly, they share a lot
00:47:23.700 of assumptions with their nominal opponents on the left. Going back to our earlier conversation
00:47:30.140 about social security, one of the biggest problems is that both the right and the left in organized
00:47:34.300 American politics are unified on this issue. No one's willing to touch it. They would much
00:47:39.340 rather, the RINOs I mean, keep the scope of political disagreement very, very narrow.
00:47:44.980 Keep it to minor discussions about who's allowed to play in women's collegiate sports,
00:47:51.120 what the marginal tax rate is, things that sure matter, that do affect how day-to-day life is,
00:47:57.160 but are not deep root first principles disagreements. And so what will they do in
00:48:03.480 order to keep their sort of privileged position as House conservatives, to kind of rephrase
00:48:09.620 Malcolm X there. Well, what do they do? They use the language of their nominal enemies on the left
00:48:15.220 to cancel people like you and me, people like Sam Francis. They have no principled opposition to
00:48:21.000 identity politics. They engage in it whenever they want to. They just don't like you. That's
00:48:26.420 really all it comes down to. All of these ostensible conservative principles, all of these
00:48:32.480 lofty ideas that you have to sign on to to be an American, well, those only exist when they're mad
00:48:38.860 and they only exist when they're mad at you. Because again, you could look at someone like
00:48:43.420 Dinesh D'Souza and say, by your own standard, you're clearly not American because you don't
00:48:48.460 have American values. And you told me that was the relevant feature, but no, no, that doesn't
00:48:54.200 matter because he's one of the good ones. He is part of the conservative establishment. He's part
00:48:59.380 to the club. And so he gets to act in a way that you and I aren't. And that sort of double standard,
00:49:05.700 that sort of slave reasoning by which they take their moral commands from their ostensible enemies
00:49:10.700 is why the conservative movement has lost and continues to lose absent a radical change.
00:49:18.660 Hard to argue with that. All right, guys, let's head over to the questions of the people. But
00:49:23.600 before we do, Mr. Burden, where should people find your excellent work?
00:49:26.240 yeah all right thank you so much for having me on so you can find the jay burden show
00:49:30.180 apple spotify youtube anywhere you listen to podcasts i put out an episode once every day
00:49:35.640 and i put it out uh roughly three hours before you start so if you're on the east coast it's
00:49:41.060 time for your lunch break if you're on the west coast probably not doing anything at work anyway
00:49:44.660 so check out my show yeah and you guys should definitely check out a recent episode you had
00:49:49.440 kevin diana diana on about uh the uh executioner and the importance of the death penalty which i
00:49:55.320 thought was a very good topic all right let's head over to the questions of the people sean
00:50:01.800 wyland says a great episode with a great guest beaver gang has once again arrived to show its
00:50:06.520 support bram zwingle says our politics is just uh the goya painting of saturn yes 100 saturn
00:50:13.660 consuming its children does seem to be a large amount of what's going on here
00:50:18.180 j6 2.0 says today it's boomers joking about taxing americans into debt slavery tomorrow
00:50:24.860 it's foreigners you'll owe nothing and be happy or else yeah you really feel if you've ever seen
00:50:29.880 that meme of the social contract and it's like you know boomers going on cruises and a bunch of
00:50:35.500 foreigners getting benefits and then like one you know poor white guy sitting there desperately
00:50:40.540 trying to hold the entire system together that pretty much feels like our entire political
00:50:45.440 system at this point to sort of quote a conversation between kevin deanna who we just
00:50:52.000 mentioned, and the great Tom Woods, they were talking about this idea you saw in the libertarian
00:50:58.000 sphere 10 to 20 years ago that actually holds up, right? It's one of the good ideas. And it's that
00:51:02.700 whenever you're advocating for something, you have to sort of append the, or they get shot
00:51:08.100 onto the end of it, because that's how all authority works. It's derived from violence.
00:51:13.360 And so basically the formulation is you have to keep working so I can go on cruises or else you
00:51:19.940 get shot which is a little stark when you say it like that yes uh let's see uh canoe
00:51:29.640 retirement plan maybe uh hard to read when it's all running together i uh got a hot tip that if
00:51:38.400 the tax hikes pass the boomer generation will make it to 110 year average age after a massive
00:51:44.840 disappearance of gin xers yes indeed let's turn harvesting the organs of the gin xers in order to
00:51:51.580 continue moving on oh see i read that differently it's just uh keeping grandma on ice to keep
00:51:57.020 collecting social security either way that's a funny post i don't know which one you meant but
00:52:01.180 however you want to interpret that rorschach test it's a good post uh let's see jbk
00:52:09.440 sorry guys having trouble with the pronunciations there when they all run together in the west we
00:52:15.860 built a parasitic economy that extracts resources from young generations and distributes those
00:52:20.560 resources to support older generations absolutely true and look it's not just us everybody's having
00:52:26.140 this problem you know china is facing this problem with demographic uh issues so it's hardly the
00:52:32.220 united states or even just the west it is a general demographic issue that is affecting all
00:52:37.000 developed and even some not so developed countries uh but certainly in the united states we have done
00:52:41.920 that when it comes to things like social security and medicaid uh let's see sergeant major valentine
00:52:49.120 of the 84th says boomers want to live forever because the flames of hell are looking at their
00:52:54.840 feet remember mcattire the sphere is always a solution always uh yeah i don't really think
00:53:00.960 that's going to be the solution i don't think a lot of people are going to be you know people
00:53:04.020 joke about the day of the pillow but i don't actually want like you know kindly parents to
00:53:09.420 die and grandparents to die just hector and achilles going to town in a nursing home like
00:53:15.540 it's it's funny when you say it like that but here i feel like i could speak for you here aron
00:53:20.700 the aron mcintyre show does not condone killing old people it's bad don't do it yes we are we
00:53:28.380 are advising against that. This is bad behavior. Jacob Swingle says, we worked extraordinarily hard
00:53:35.900 to get a mortgage on a duplex just before interest rates blew up. Since then, local rent has gone
00:53:41.840 up 70%. If I have a duplex up 40%, we need real estate to crash. Yeah, but again, that's the
00:53:49.140 problem is so many people are using the equity in their home as a retirement nest egg. And of
00:53:56.560 course nobody likes to see something they bought go down in value even if that isn't the plan
00:54:00.420 so you just have the visceral part that ultimately just seeing the value of something you bought go
00:54:05.500 down even though you understand relatively it's the same that still hurts and then you also have
00:54:10.620 the problem of you would be undercutting the retirement plan for a large number of people
00:54:14.980 who've been told that building wealth inside their home is the way you do it in the united states
00:54:19.460 that's what a smart person does so i agree with all of that but that's ultimately why you know
00:54:24.480 it's so even donald trump goes around saying oh yeah no we're going to prop up the value of your
00:54:28.800 home like people don't like it when their home values go down so we're going to make sure it
00:54:31.420 doesn't go down just like with social security donald trump is going to tell you what you want
00:54:34.780 to hear on this stuff like it maybe not in the war in iran but he is going to tell you what you
00:54:38.660 want to hear on this stuff it's not going to change uh joshua bb says uh actually i think
00:54:45.600 he told me he pronounced it some other way but sorry uh i've met vivek he is my height half my
00:54:51.560 weight uh well uh i imagine he is a slender fellow see the problem with this josh is that you
00:54:58.320 you really neglected the pertinent part of information here which is how tall are you
00:55:03.260 because i know he is roughly one josh height but that does not tell me at all if he is big enough
00:55:09.400 to lift up a 10 year old again thank you for the donation you know i'm not trying to make fun of
00:55:13.580 you but if we're going to make a comparison here i haven't met you you know it would be a helpful
00:55:17.860 a helpful bit of information let's see here uh sean says uh will gen x end up the fall guy for
00:55:25.260 the boomers yeah absolutely man 100 sorry hate to bring that to you uh let's see here
00:55:31.460 uh j6 again says back in the day de souza would slander robert spencer defend islam uh and call
00:55:39.940 people islamophobes i don't remember that i do not remember dinesh going to bat for islam so
00:55:46.460 i can't really speak to it i mean i remember him doing a good amount of christian apologetics so
00:55:51.740 i would be surprised if that's the case but i can't deny it outright i can't really verify that
00:55:57.200 either way and then sean says boomers think uh their own children are competition in many ways
00:56:04.260 that seems to be the case like the attitude really does seem to be look america dies with us like we
00:56:09.120 are america like we made it happen uh even though you know that's a pretty speculative thing yeah
00:56:14.800 probably the silent generation more than anything else but like there really is that uh idea that
00:56:19.460 like look the nation dies with us uh the you know the money dies with us even the bloodlines should
00:56:24.760 die with us like basically shut the lights out when we go out that should be the end of america
00:56:29.440 uh there there really does seem to be some level of uh of that kind of hiding behind boomer behavior
00:56:37.040 even when it comes to you know their kids trying to get married in that kind of thing or own homes
00:56:42.160 they seem to in many cases revel in glee uh but to be fair it's not just them i mean there are
00:56:47.980 younger guys like you know joel barry or guys who seem to have the same uh the same feeling you know
00:56:52.780 or eric erickson so it's not just the boomers there seems to be something about conservative
00:56:58.140 establishment figures that really don't like young people and really don't want to hear about
00:57:02.440 them having any kind of issues or address any you know issues they're they're facing uh as if they
00:57:08.740 have any uh relevance to the future and then we have aramaic discourse says i've also met vivek
00:57:17.240 in person i'm 5 11 he's at least three inches shorter than me i call fake news on his height
00:57:22.840 all right so now we have eyewitness reporting on possible uh shenanigans when it comes to uh you
00:57:28.820 know vivek's height i don't know maybe he's got those ron de santis platforms you know like the
00:57:32.880 you know the the really really tall boots uh yeah maybe he's pulling that trick this is even this
00:57:38.160 is honestly we we found out the answer to an even more important question which is how tall is josh
00:57:42.920 right that's the that's the question on everyone's mind right now we're measuring everything in josh
00:57:47.940 units well we have to be careful you don't want to be doxing josh here we know people doing
00:57:51.660 the arithmetic and figuring out his height right so exactly how many uh five foot nine guys named
00:57:58.660 josh there are in america well apparently also no good well i was just gonna say
00:58:04.800 i was gonna say that uh you know if you're gonna lie why lie about being 5 11 right not just
00:58:14.600 just just go the extra inch man you're already you're already lying about it just go to six
00:58:19.260 foot you know it seems foolish to lie to go up to 5 11 and miss the mark by one inch like just
00:58:24.560 just just reach for the you know the golden ring here man the brass ring like just make it happen
00:58:29.180 oh 100 it's almost it's almost funnier to lie about being 5 11 than it is to lie about being
00:58:36.400 six foot you know it's like dude just go for it you know like it's already visually not true
00:58:43.420 so just you know swing for the fences you know like just go for it yeah at least try to be
00:58:49.340 somewhat impressive if you're going to lie about in the first place all right guys we're going to
00:58:53.460 go ahead and wrap this up but as always thank you so much for coming on make sure that you
00:58:57.900 we just got another super chat from josh he's five foot eight the the mystery has been
00:59:04.440 the mystery has been solved thank you josh appreciate you donating uh a little more to
00:59:10.220 let us know that the math was indeed correct all right well again we're gonna go ahead and wrap
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