The Auron MacIntyre Show - Elon and Vivek Start an H-1B Showdown ｜ Guests： Ryan Turnipseed and The Prudentialist

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00:00:15.160 Hey everybody, how's it going?

00:00:16.920 Thanks for joining me this afternoon.

00:00:18.780 I've got a great stream with some great guests

00:00:20.700 that I think you're really going to enjoy.

00:00:23.740 You know, the blaze is still kind of shut down this week.

00:00:26.200 There's not a lot going on.

00:00:27.080 And usually this is where I have a casual stream, have friends on.

00:00:31.240 We kind of do a cozy Christmas stream and talk about,

00:00:34.120 because there's just, there's nothing going on in the news.

00:00:36.400 There's no big politics.

00:00:38.100 It's the last week of the year.

00:00:40.460 Everyone's kind of turned it off for the holidays,

00:00:42.780 Christmas and New Year's and all of those things.

00:00:44.800 And so it was just a time to kind of sit back and reflect

00:00:46.980 because, you know, we have that moment to catch our breath.

00:00:50.420 That is not what happened this week.

00:00:52.740 For some reason, on Christmas Day,

00:00:56.040 it built up a little before on Christmas Eve,

00:00:58.020 but on Christmas Day,

00:00:59.520 kind of the tech bro faction of the new right,

00:01:03.720 kind of the Elon Musks, the Vivek Rasmamis,

00:01:06.480 the David Sachs,

00:01:08.420 they decided that this was a great time

00:01:11.200 to start a discussion about the necessity

00:01:14.280 of increasing legal immigration,

00:01:17.160 specifically through the H-1B program.

00:01:20.700 And as you might imagine,

00:01:22.940 this entire MAGA movement,

00:01:25.640 all these Trump voters who specifically

00:01:27.840 and resoundingly made their voices heard

00:01:31.240 during this election,

00:01:32.880 giving a mandate to President Trump

00:01:35.960 based pretty much entirely on the fact

00:01:38.580 that they were tired of both illegal

00:01:40.420 and mass legal immigration,

00:01:43.980 snapped back.

00:01:44.520 They said, nope, that's,

00:01:45.780 we're not, we're not doing that.

00:01:46.920 We're pushing back.

00:01:47.660 We are not going to allow you guys,

00:01:49.900 we've had the rug pulled under us

00:01:51.880 too many times

00:01:52.940 when it comes to immigration.

00:01:54.600 We are not starting

00:01:55.860 the second Trump administration

00:01:57.020 with a betrayal over immigration policy.

00:02:00.320 And the tech guys were just blown away

00:02:02.780 by the response.

00:02:03.500 They couldn't believe

00:02:04.380 that these people were daring to tell them

00:02:07.340 that maybe, just maybe,

00:02:09.000 the fact that they arrived

00:02:10.560 in the MAGA coalition five minutes ago

00:02:12.800 means they don't get to dictate

00:02:14.400 immigration policy.

00:02:16.000 And it wasn't just a small disagreement.

00:02:18.340 Unfortunately, people like Vivek and Musk

00:02:21.100 got particularly nasty

00:02:22.560 towards those that were pushing back.

00:02:24.960 So I want to break down

00:02:26.240 some of the most important posts from this

00:02:28.680 and kind of give my thoughts.

00:02:31.060 And I have some of my favorite co-host guests

00:02:34.360 joining me here right before the new year.

00:02:37.300 Of course, we have the Prudentialists.

00:02:38.780 Thanks for coming on, man.

00:02:40.040 Happy as always to be here, Warren.

00:02:41.660 I hope you had a Merry Christmas.

00:02:43.280 Absolutely.

00:02:44.080 You, you, you too.

00:02:45.900 I'm sorry.

00:02:46.620 And Ryan Turnipseed.

00:02:47.780 Thanks for joining me, man.

00:02:48.640 Thank you very much for having me.

00:02:50.180 And Merry Christmas as well.

00:02:51.880 Yeah, Merry Christmas to both you guys.

00:02:53.760 And as always,

00:02:55.340 both these men have excellent

00:02:57.560 sub stacks and YouTube channels

00:03:00.480 and Twitters.

00:03:01.180 And you should check out all of that stuff.

00:03:03.000 We'll make sure to plug it again at the end.

00:03:04.640 But make sure you're starting

00:03:05.600 your new year off right

00:03:07.500 with subscribing to some of the best content

00:03:09.460 out there from these gentlemen.

00:03:12.520 But just before we dive into

00:03:14.980 kind of all the tweets,

00:03:16.740 I don't want to lay out the entire timeline.

00:03:18.820 I don't want to go through every single post

00:03:20.540 because this went on.

00:03:21.820 It was pretty wild for days and days and days.

00:03:25.320 Again, a lot of people got very heated.

00:03:27.880 Musk has now since deleted

00:03:29.560 some of these posts

00:03:30.740 in response to kind of what has happened.

00:03:34.520 But Prudentialists,

00:03:36.260 why don't you set out your thoughts first?

00:03:38.360 A lot of what we got here immediately

00:03:40.520 was the MAG has been betrayed

00:03:44.700 and we told you guys this was coming

00:03:47.200 and the tech bros were all,

00:03:48.380 you know, we knew this.

00:03:49.220 And it's like, yeah, guys, we knew this too.

00:03:51.660 Like we had said this from the beginning

00:03:53.660 that obviously while these were kind of

00:03:56.600 co-belligerents moving in this direction,

00:03:59.880 ultimately Musk and some of these guys

00:04:01.540 had different priorities

00:04:02.500 and we were going to have to hash this out after.

00:04:05.120 So were you surprised when this kind of erupted?

00:04:07.340 I was surprised that it happened as soon as it did.

00:04:11.220 Ryan and I in a previous conversation

00:04:13.420 had outlined sort of the history

00:04:15.620 of right-wing infighting

00:04:17.640 and that every time that there is an election

00:04:19.720 and Republicans win,

00:04:21.400 there's always a knife out for the backs of those

00:04:23.880 that are also scrambling for jobs,

00:04:25.960 influence, power, money, et cetera.

00:04:28.160 And so to witness on Christmas Day

00:04:30.520 to see all this sort of play out

00:04:32.320 and blow up the way that it has,

00:04:33.580 the silver lining really to all of it

00:04:35.580 is that this is happening before the inauguration.

00:04:37.960 I said the day after the,

00:04:39.600 the morning after the election,

00:04:40.820 I said that the fights are going to come,

00:04:42.660 especially over immigration

00:04:43.960 and especially when it comes to the issue

00:04:45.980 of say, you know,

00:04:48.080 just subcontinental or Indian representation

00:04:50.320 in regards to this administration

00:04:52.120 or with politics in Silicon Valley,

00:04:54.160 what kind of sway are the Vivek Ramoswamis

00:04:56.820 and Elon Musk's of the world

00:04:58.400 really going to have on this administration?

00:04:59.680 And it was just kind of interesting that,

00:05:01.940 you know, to read the room for a second,

00:05:03.380 to do a little optics check here

00:05:04.820 that all of a sudden,

00:05:06.000 you know, Elon Musk backed

00:05:07.320 the immigration restriction as candidate,

00:05:09.240 even legal immigration went down

00:05:10.720 under Trump's first administration.

00:05:12.200 And you want to open your mouth on Christmas Day

00:05:14.560 when most of, you know,

00:05:15.720 like white Christian middle America

00:05:17.160 is going to be celebrating

00:05:18.480 the birth of our savior,

00:05:19.700 that you want to double down

00:05:20.700 on an immigration system

00:05:21.840 that is fraudulent, broken, does not work,

00:05:24.340 and has a group of people

00:05:25.300 most famously known for saying,

00:05:26.600 do not redeem on the birth of the redeemer.

00:05:28.300 So I can't say I'm surprised,

00:05:30.420 but it's good that this fight's happening now.

00:05:33.060 And I likewise wasn't really surprised at all.

00:05:37.040 This idea that we somehow thought

00:05:40.540 that Musk was going to save us,

00:05:41.980 that we thought Musk was some sort of

00:05:43.600 mid-century South African stand-in

00:05:47.240 just doesn't bear out if you look at our history.

00:05:50.420 I think just about every one of us

00:05:52.040 has spoken against transhumanism,

00:05:53.780 which is specifically Musk's idea and ideology.

00:05:56.720 I think we've all spoken against it

00:05:59.060 at least once before he announced his pick

00:06:02.980 for Donald Trump, his support for him.

00:06:06.400 Just about every one of us thought

00:06:07.900 that he was basically a subversive liberal

00:06:10.820 who might be trending in our direction.

00:06:13.120 And to our credit,

00:06:15.300 he has trended in our direction.

00:06:16.660 He is less subversive now

00:06:17.800 than he certainly was two years ago.

00:06:19.520 But I think maybe the biggest irony

00:06:23.180 is that everyone was getting really excited

00:06:24.860 that maybe some South African blood memories

00:06:27.280 were awakening within Musk.

00:06:28.940 And then everyone freaks out

00:06:30.040 when he wants to import a middle-class labor supply

00:06:33.020 from a completely different continent.

00:06:35.440 Very South African.

00:06:36.500 Yeah, I would go ahead

00:06:40.000 and just kind of echo both of your sentiments

00:06:42.340 that this is something that we knew was going to happen,

00:06:46.160 that this is something that easily could have been predicted.

00:06:49.340 And many of us did exactly that.

00:06:52.180 And that while Elon has been moving our direction,

00:06:56.060 none of this is particularly new.

00:06:57.960 Let's go to a few of the relevant tweets here.

00:07:01.360 This is Elon.

00:07:02.080 Someone says one of these Elon worship accounts is like,

00:07:06.960 oh, he's been super consistent on his stance on immigration.

00:07:10.340 And it's like, yes, yes, he has been.

00:07:12.020 We all knew this was his stance on immigration.

00:07:14.420 And the stance is,

00:07:15.120 we should be increasing legal immigration

00:07:17.020 of anyone who's hardworking, honest, and loves America.

00:07:20.480 Every such person is an asset to the country,

00:07:22.860 but massive illegal immigration of people

00:07:25.380 we know nothing about is insane.

00:07:28.720 So this has always been his position.

00:07:30.880 And he reiterates it here.

00:07:32.800 This is the right position for those who want America to win.

00:07:35.440 Now, we're going to talk about that question

00:07:37.200 and that statement in a second.

00:07:39.300 Then he says,

00:07:39.980 for those who want America to lose

00:07:41.640 and for their own personal gain,

00:07:43.260 I have no respect.

00:07:44.620 Zero.

00:07:46.220 Now, this is the problem with Musk from the very beginning.

00:07:48.840 It's the entire point of this

00:07:50.920 is not that Musk disagreed on this issue.

00:07:54.740 We all knew Musk disagreed on this issue.

00:07:57.180 He had been very clear about his disagreement on this issue.

00:07:59.440 That is not a betrayal.

00:08:01.000 It's not a surprise.

00:08:02.100 It's not a,

00:08:02.760 oh, how could this happen to us?

00:08:04.180 This guy was supposed to be,

00:08:05.400 you know,

00:08:06.200 the next savior or whatever.

00:08:08.700 Like, none of that happened.

00:08:10.240 Okay.

00:08:10.720 The problem for Elon

00:08:12.320 was the way he approached this debate.

00:08:16.000 From the very beginning,

00:08:17.320 we got a shell game.

00:08:19.140 He started off by saying,

00:08:21.060 H1Bs allow me to bring in the top talent in the world.

00:08:24.400 It's what allows me to create this scenario

00:08:27.680 where I can build rockets and go to Mars, right?

00:08:31.560 I have to have this top talent.

00:08:33.900 If not, we're getting,

00:08:34.860 you know,

00:08:35.180 we're getting rid of Von Braun.

00:08:37.460 We're getting rid of Einstein.

00:08:38.880 We're getting rid of Nikola Tesla.

00:08:40.560 Like, these are things he literally made,

00:08:42.280 you know,

00:08:42.540 he literally said kind of on the stream

00:08:45.100 while he was talking about it.

00:08:47.140 And yet,

00:08:48.280 or on the,

00:08:48.900 rather the timeline,

00:08:49.660 while he was talking about it.

00:08:50.520 And yet that is all not true.

00:08:52.880 Lost Prudentials here.

00:08:53.800 Let me pick him back up.

00:08:55.600 But that is just not true

00:08:57.340 because that is not what the H1B visa does.

00:09:00.780 There are all of the visa systems

00:09:02.640 in the United States are heavily abused,

00:09:04.740 but the O1 visa already exists

00:09:06.700 to bring in top talent.

00:09:08.360 It already exists to bring in

00:09:09.180 that once in a generation talent,

00:09:11.180 not just in science or not just in tech,

00:09:13.520 but across all kinds of domains,

00:09:15.280 arts, sports,

00:09:16.060 all kinds of things.

00:09:17.180 The problem for them

00:09:18.760 is that it has higher requirements.

00:09:20.980 It doesn't even have a cap on it.

00:09:22.260 It's just a lot harder to get

00:09:23.680 because it's not made

00:09:25.860 to like ship in

00:09:26.620 a bunch of middle-class managers.

00:09:28.120 That's what the H1B visa

00:09:29.560 mostly is used for.

00:09:31.660 But Musk acted as if

00:09:33.380 he had to have it

00:09:34.500 to just get like

00:09:35.980 the top engineering talent

00:09:37.560 in the world.

00:09:38.300 That's just not true.

00:09:39.540 And the fact that he kept

00:09:40.220 playing the shell game

00:09:41.600 with the visa classifications

00:09:43.420 was its own problem.

00:09:44.720 But then when anyone pointed out

00:09:46.160 that actually we should be prioritizing

00:09:48.740 American labor

00:09:49.940 over foreign labor,

00:09:51.440 he says,

00:09:51.940 oh, well, you're doing that

00:09:52.660 for your own personal gain.

00:09:55.020 No, you're importing cheap labor

00:09:57.200 for your personal gain.

00:09:58.960 You're hoping to bring in

00:10:00.200 a bunch of people

00:10:01.020 to fill in

00:10:02.480 what would be

00:10:03.380 middle-class

00:10:04.600 or upper-middle-class

00:10:05.800 salaries and jobs

00:10:08.840 so that you can pay them

00:10:10.120 less than what that wage

00:10:11.860 should be worth

00:10:12.760 and expect more work

00:10:14.340 out of them

00:10:14.900 for the lower wage.

00:10:16.400 That is what you are trying to do.

00:10:17.780 That is for your own personal gain.

00:10:19.900 People who are asking you

00:10:21.020 to not do this

00:10:21.800 are doing it

00:10:22.420 for their families,

00:10:23.860 doing it for their country.

00:10:25.480 They care about

00:10:26.220 the social fabric.

00:10:27.260 They care about the culture.

00:10:28.400 They care about

00:10:29.080 the safety issues.

00:10:30.640 We just had a doctor

00:10:32.220 from Saudi Arabia

00:10:33.720 run over a bunch of kids

00:10:35.260 in Germany

00:10:35.840 at a Christmas market.

00:10:37.680 He's the ideal immigrant, right?

00:10:39.000 He's hardworking.

00:10:39.900 He's educated.

00:10:41.080 He's got all these credentials.

00:10:43.460 Guess what?

00:10:43.880 He can kill kids, too.

00:10:45.440 He's just fine.

00:10:46.260 They can be terrorists, too.

00:10:48.160 But he just throws

00:10:49.100 all of these concerns

00:10:50.080 to the side

00:10:50.520 and says,

00:10:50.980 I have zero respect for you.

00:10:52.520 And this was like

00:10:53.140 the lowest amount

00:10:54.580 of insulting he did

00:10:55.660 to people who disagreed

00:10:56.740 with him.

00:10:57.140 And so, again,

00:10:57.760 it's not that

00:10:58.920 the debate was had.

00:10:59.980 It's the fact that

00:11:00.840 the guy at the center

00:11:02.000 of the debate

00:11:02.560 couldn't act like an adult

00:11:04.440 and a leader

00:11:04.980 for 10 seconds.

00:11:08.860 Right.

00:11:09.300 And also something

00:11:11.020 that wasn't mentioned here

00:11:12.540 is that there was

00:11:13.160 a second party

00:11:15.400 to this debate

00:11:16.100 who was arguably

00:11:17.020 more inflammatory

00:11:17.840 who did just immediate...

00:11:20.000 In fact,

00:11:20.460 I think we can blame

00:11:21.220 the Vex Post

00:11:21.980 for starting most of this argument.

00:11:23.080 Yeah, I have that one

00:11:23.720 queued up as well,

00:11:24.420 of course.

00:11:24.980 Right.

00:11:25.580 And just because

00:11:26.920 you mentioned it,

00:11:27.860 I was going to say

00:11:28.600 I think that one

00:11:29.360 was the most knives out

00:11:30.380 specifically for

00:11:31.460 middle America.

00:11:32.940 The fact that Musk

00:11:34.060 jumped on that

00:11:35.000 and thought

00:11:35.420 this is the good off-ramp

00:11:36.640 to start arguing

00:11:37.400 for H-1B visas,

00:11:39.020 which I'm sure

00:11:40.280 we'll get to this

00:11:40.840 later in the segment.

00:11:42.620 Everyone dug into

00:11:43.800 and found out

00:11:44.500 that, huh,

00:11:44.940 this isn't really

00:11:45.480 top talent.

00:11:46.340 They're hiring

00:11:47.260 accountants

00:11:48.320 and waiters

00:11:49.820 and whatever else

00:11:50.820 things,

00:11:51.320 jobs that are

00:11:52.100 not the most glamorous

00:11:53.480 of the high class

00:11:54.460 but nevertheless

00:11:56.040 are needed for

00:11:57.180 especially the lower

00:11:58.480 segments of middle America.

00:12:01.040 This wasn't

00:12:02.280 the greatest

00:12:02.680 on-ramp for Musk

00:12:04.240 and I do think

00:12:05.640 that this proves

00:12:06.640 that Musk

00:12:07.140 isn't some

00:12:07.720 conniving mastermind

00:12:08.960 behind the scenes

00:12:09.820 just trying to

00:12:11.460 gently direct us

00:12:12.540 all into

00:12:13.140 some sort of

00:12:14.200 transhumanist dystopia.

00:12:16.060 I think this proves

00:12:16.920 that Musk

00:12:17.300 is just a rabid

00:12:18.440 ideologue

00:12:19.660 which there's nothing

00:12:20.960 wrong with that

00:12:21.460 inherently

00:12:21.900 but a rabid ideologue

00:12:23.080 for his sort of

00:12:25.500 plan for space

00:12:27.240 colonization

00:12:27.860 and whatever else.

00:12:28.600 He wants a sci-fi

00:12:29.360 utopia

00:12:29.920 and he doesn't

00:12:31.280 actually have

00:12:31.920 most of the

00:12:32.780 public skills

00:12:34.260 to get there.

00:12:34.780 He did not

00:12:35.620 pick this fight

00:12:36.220 well if he has

00:12:36.820 some conniving

00:12:37.380 mastermind

00:12:38.020 trying to

00:12:38.420 subvert us.

00:12:40.260 Yeah, let me

00:12:40.600 read this.

00:12:41.120 Oh, go ahead.

00:12:41.980 Oh, I was about

00:12:42.360 to say, you know,

00:12:43.140 it turns out a

00:12:43.720 Redditor is still

00:12:44.420 a Redditor after

00:12:45.100 all these years.

00:12:45.940 Who would have

00:12:46.400 been surprised?

00:12:48.140 I mean, I think

00:12:48.860 that this just

00:12:49.360 illustrates that

00:12:50.140 I get it.

00:12:50.860 You have to stick

00:12:51.480 with your guns

00:12:52.200 on the issues

00:12:52.800 that keep the

00:12:53.540 whole system afloat.

00:12:55.120 I mean, Silicon

00:12:55.620 Valley does benefit

00:12:57.540 greatly from H1B

00:12:58.760 visas but as we've

00:12:59.700 learned throughout

00:13:00.100 this fight,

00:13:00.620 it turns out,

00:13:01.480 as Ryan was saying,

00:13:02.500 this is not the

00:13:03.200 creme de la creme,

00:13:04.200 this is not the

00:13:04.840 best of the

00:13:05.260 brightest and in

00:13:06.360 fact, we've had

00:13:07.000 everything displayed

00:13:07.880 on this H1B

00:13:08.660 database that the

00:13:09.540 government keeps

00:13:10.180 from everything

00:13:10.640 from line cooks

00:13:12.040 to male strippers

00:13:13.340 being available

00:13:14.180 for H1B visas.

00:13:15.480 I mean,

00:13:15.720 less seminary

00:13:17.220 professors.

00:13:18.100 Yeah, all that

00:13:18.660 in there.

00:13:19.600 I mean, literally

00:13:20.040 just a great

00:13:21.120 database to prove

00:13:21.980 like, hey, this

00:13:22.700 great replacement

00:13:23.360 thing's happening

00:13:24.020 is right before

00:13:24.620 your eyes.

00:13:25.380 Well, my favorite

00:13:25.900 part was the

00:13:26.780 interns.

00:13:27.820 They had H1B

00:13:28.880 requests for

00:13:29.780 interns.

00:13:30.320 The whole

00:13:31.040 point, the

00:13:31.720 whole argument

00:13:32.360 is that these

00:13:33.020 people have

00:13:33.720 skills we need.

00:13:35.300 It's the whole

00:13:36.020 argument, it's the

00:13:36.740 entire argument

00:13:37.840 is that they are

00:13:38.700 just irreplaceable

00:13:39.840 geniuses who bring

00:13:41.100 so much and

00:13:42.900 they're getting

00:13:43.240 hired in

00:13:43.700 internships, the

00:13:44.680 place where people

00:13:45.160 are supposed to

00:13:45.680 go to get

00:13:46.660 experience while

00:13:47.620 Americans are

00:13:48.220 desperately hoping

00:13:49.220 to get an

00:13:49.600 unpaid internship.

00:13:51.080 Like, it's just

00:13:51.740 like, like,

00:13:52.320 obviously you're

00:13:52.860 right, like the

00:13:53.440 gas station

00:13:54.460 attendance and the,

00:13:55.860 you know, all the

00:13:56.680 other stuff that

00:13:57.420 obviously just

00:13:58.200 disproves this.

00:13:58.880 But again, that's

00:13:59.500 another gift of

00:14:00.340 this discussion

00:14:01.120 is how it lit

00:14:03.780 up the rest of

00:14:05.460 America, you

00:14:06.360 know, really made

00:14:06.920 them aware of

00:14:08.480 what was going

00:14:09.660 on with the

00:14:10.400 system, how

00:14:11.000 thoroughly it is

00:14:11.980 abused.

00:14:12.600 You just can't

00:14:13.560 escape the data

00:14:14.480 once you start

00:14:15.180 seeing it.

00:14:15.920 I mean, even

00:14:16.320 Eric Weinstein, of

00:14:17.620 all people, was

00:14:18.700 posting studies

00:14:19.820 coming from, you

00:14:21.780 know, different

00:14:22.200 parts of the

00:14:22.800 government talking

00:14:23.640 about how H1B

00:14:25.340 recipients would

00:14:26.500 specifically depress

00:14:27.640 pay for,

00:14:28.880 American college

00:14:30.380 professors, which,

00:14:31.260 you know, given

00:14:31.620 the status of

00:14:32.900 American college

00:14:33.460 professors, not

00:14:34.060 crying too much

00:14:34.620 for these people,

00:14:35.260 but you get it.

00:14:36.280 Like, you know,

00:14:36.880 even center-left

00:14:39.420 guys are pointing

00:14:41.000 out, actually,

00:14:41.860 no, like, we

00:14:42.860 specifically have

00:14:43.620 papers, you know,

00:14:44.580 showing this.

00:14:45.160 But yet, again,

00:14:45.940 here's Elon's

00:14:46.640 response, right?

00:14:47.360 This is one of his

00:14:47.880 tweets.

00:14:48.100 The reason I'm in

00:14:49.340 America, along with

00:14:51.300 so many critical

00:14:52.020 people who built

00:14:52.640 SpaceX, Tesla, and

00:14:53.620 hundreds of other

00:14:54.120 companies, is they

00:14:55.020 made America strong

00:14:55.860 is because of

00:14:56.740 H1B.

00:14:58.100 Take a big step

00:14:59.200 and F yourself

00:15:00.460 in the face.

00:15:01.340 I'll go to war

00:15:01.900 in the shoes like

00:15:02.580 it's when you

00:15:03.140 cannot possibly

00:15:03.720 comprehend.

00:15:04.180 Now, obviously,

00:15:04.920 he likes to

00:15:05.580 quote Tropical

00:15:07.620 Thunder, Tom

00:15:08.440 Cruise's character

00:15:09.180 in that.

00:15:10.320 He's done that

00:15:11.060 multiple times.

00:15:11.820 He's trying to be

00:15:12.500 funny here.

00:15:13.240 But given the

00:15:14.000 context of what

00:15:14.940 he's saying, it's

00:15:15.880 just so incredibly

00:15:17.100 insulting.

00:15:17.960 Like, yeah, I

00:15:18.980 know that I'm in

00:15:20.280 your country and I'm

00:15:21.240 a guest in your

00:15:22.040 country and you've

00:15:22.800 been kind enough to

00:15:24.160 host me and give

00:15:24.900 me this opportunity.

00:15:26.400 But by the way, I

00:15:27.420 only built this

00:15:28.320 because I brought

00:15:28.980 in foreign labor

00:15:29.820 and I'm going to

00:15:30.300 go to war with

00:15:31.020 you over this and

00:15:31.660 tell you to go F

00:15:32.300 yourself if you

00:15:33.280 have any opposition

00:15:34.280 to it.

00:15:38.540 Humorous or not,

00:15:39.320 I mean, it does

00:15:39.760 illustrate just a

00:15:41.400 really bad read on

00:15:43.100 the situation.

00:15:44.060 And I would like

00:15:45.520 Musk to be bullied

00:15:46.840 into, and I don't

00:15:47.600 even want to say

00:15:48.060 bully, but I mean,

00:15:48.640 it really is the way

00:15:49.380 that it's been for

00:15:49.920 the last several days

00:15:50.820 is that he needs to

00:15:51.520 be bullied into the

00:15:52.300 correct position,

00:15:53.240 which is that I

00:15:53.940 get it, for your

00:15:54.620 system to maintain

00:15:55.560 itself as it is.

00:15:57.140 You want this to

00:15:57.900 work.

00:15:58.520 But, you know, go

00:15:59.280 off and go to war,

00:16:00.780 and even if you're

00:16:01.280 trying to be humorous

00:16:02.220 about it, no one's

00:16:02.860 going to read that

00:16:03.440 text message or that

00:16:04.980 tweet like it's meant

00:16:05.840 to be humorous.

00:16:06.580 No, everyone is going

00:16:07.360 to read this exactly

00:16:08.140 what it is.

00:16:08.740 It's an insult to the

00:16:10.100 people that are there.

00:16:11.020 And to have other

00:16:11.640 interactions where, like

00:16:12.800 the one that you have

00:16:13.320 on screen or where he

00:16:14.680 had said, well, you

00:16:15.380 know, someone had

00:16:15.820 replied to Elon and

00:16:16.500 he says, well, why

00:16:17.140 don't you just build a

00:16:17.840 school?

00:16:18.200 You've got the money

00:16:18.780 to do it.

00:16:19.220 And he says, well, if

00:16:19.580 you need a school,

00:16:23.940 where SpaceX is a

00:16:24.820 place where, you

00:16:25.740 know, they hunt for

00:16:26.300 people who don't

00:16:26.900 necessarily have

00:16:27.900 degrees.

00:16:28.560 And for a guy that's,

00:16:29.660 you know, rambled on

00:16:30.480 about DEI and talking

00:16:31.920 about this, whether

00:16:32.480 it's from video games

00:16:33.480 to the ongoing

00:16:34.940 battles he's had with

00:16:35.940 the Biden

00:16:36.300 administration's

00:16:37.060 Justice Department

00:16:37.780 over ITAR and not

00:16:39.340 hiring asylum seekers

00:16:40.520 and non-citizens or

00:16:42.120 at least people with

00:16:42.760 permanent resident

00:16:43.500 status, it illustrates

00:16:44.900 someone that did not

00:16:46.180 seriously take into

00:16:47.080 consideration that the

00:16:48.380 most important issue

00:16:49.360 that every person who

00:16:50.360 voted for Trump on

00:16:51.140 was immigration.

00:16:52.500 He is the

00:16:52.840 immigration restriction

00:16:53.760 as candidate.

00:16:54.660 And instead, what

00:16:55.380 we've witnessed over

00:16:56.420 the last week has

00:16:57.500 been a calvacade of

00:16:59.280 grifters, of

00:17:00.240 immigrants, of

00:17:01.140 individuals that have

00:17:02.040 come on board making

00:17:03.580 money off of a system

00:17:05.420 that benefits them

00:17:06.660 above the Native

00:17:07.580 American population

00:17:08.820 to simply say, no, you

00:17:10.760 guys are awful and we

00:17:12.000 don't want this.

00:17:12.720 And if you want to

00:17:13.180 prefer citizens over

00:17:14.180 immigrants, that's just

00:17:15.320 your own version of

00:17:16.300 DEI, despite the fact

00:17:18.100 that that's not what

00:17:18.860 DEI represents or

00:17:19.980 stands for.

00:17:20.860 Instead, it's just

00:17:21.520 simply saying, screw

00:17:22.400 you, we've got

00:17:23.280 ours and go away

00:17:24.320 somewhere and go

00:17:25.180 rot in a hole.

00:17:26.460 And that's really the

00:17:27.120 attitude that we've

00:17:27.860 witnessed from these

00:17:28.520 people.

00:17:28.840 And I'm sure Musk has

00:17:29.660 walked back a few of

00:17:30.500 his points.

00:17:30.880 Like you said, he's

00:17:31.460 deleted some of his

00:17:32.080 tweets.

00:17:32.920 But overall, what this

00:17:34.240 has been has been a

00:17:34.980 flashpoint in the

00:17:35.840 factions and that the

00:17:37.060 Californian ideology has

00:17:38.680 come home to roost.

00:17:39.780 They like their slave

00:17:40.920 labor.

00:17:41.440 They like what's going

00:17:42.380 on here.

00:17:43.060 And more importantly,

00:17:43.680 they would love to

00:17:44.400 talk about AI more

00:17:45.660 than this immigration

00:17:46.800 issue, because if you

00:17:48.000 think immigration is bad

00:17:49.060 with respect to the

00:17:49.720 economy, wait till AI.

00:17:50.720 Well, they've been

00:17:51.400 talking about this for

00:17:52.320 over 30 years.

00:17:53.280 The issue still hasn't

00:17:54.320 come abroad.

00:17:55.600 Sure, HEI might come

00:17:56.520 one day.

00:17:57.320 But at the end of it

00:17:58.020 all, what we're

00:17:58.420 witnessing is plain and

00:17:59.660 simple.

00:18:00.440 People who have gotten

00:18:01.680 here on a silver

00:18:02.660 platter with money and

00:18:04.080 have either made it by

00:18:05.020 grifting or being

00:18:06.060 fraudulent and scammy,

00:18:07.400 such as Patrick

00:18:08.060 Bet David and others,

00:18:09.600 to simply tell Middle

00:18:10.580 America and the rest of

00:18:11.640 us to, like you said,

00:18:13.240 go F off.

00:18:14.000 Well, and the funny

00:18:15.400 thing about this

00:18:16.000 screenshot that's

00:18:16.680 currently on screen is

00:18:17.580 that this is a parody

00:18:18.460 account of Patrick

00:18:19.560 Bet David, but for

00:18:21.600 whatever reason, Musk

00:18:22.980 and the whole H-1B

00:18:25.780 supportive crowd

00:18:26.820 couldn't tell the

00:18:27.440 difference, and quite

00:18:28.080 frankly, it's terrible

00:18:28.900 parody because Patrick

00:18:29.960 Bet David was basically

00:18:30.960 saying the same things

00:18:31.880 on his own account.

00:18:33.200 But with this in mind,

00:18:35.140 though, if we can just

00:18:35.780 go back to the

00:18:36.340 screenshot very quickly

00:18:37.500 from that parody

00:18:39.220 account.

00:18:39.640 This is a fundamental

00:18:43.280 mis-framing, and this

00:18:45.780 really just goes to show

00:18:46.680 how important framing

00:18:48.300 of issues are, your

00:18:49.420 foundations, why do you

00:18:50.820 oppose something, why do

00:18:51.820 you support it?

00:18:53.360 The vast majority of

00:18:54.540 Americans do not support

00:18:56.180 DEI because it is

00:18:57.540 specifically aimed against

00:18:58.660 them and their children.

00:18:59.640 It prevents them from

00:19:00.320 getting jobs, it prevents

00:19:01.340 them from promoting, from

00:19:02.880 making things better for

00:19:03.820 their family, and it also

00:19:04.680 makes civilization worse.

00:19:06.000 Things are crumbling,

00:19:06.880 they're declining, our

00:19:09.160 quality has been guttering

00:19:11.380 for the last decade or

00:19:13.000 so, a couple of

00:19:14.140 decades.

00:19:14.940 That's why most

00:19:15.800 Americans dislike it.

00:19:17.260 And there's also a

00:19:18.680 large segment of that

00:19:19.560 same population that

00:19:20.480 dislikes it because they

00:19:21.280 don't like being

00:19:21.960 discriminated against on

00:19:23.520 the basis of their

00:19:24.240 skin color.

00:19:24.840 That's not me being

00:19:26.500 some sort of liberal or

00:19:27.800 whatever, it's just

00:19:28.580 that's the emotive

00:19:29.680 reaction for most of

00:19:31.220 these people.

00:19:32.300 However, what the H-1B

00:19:33.840 supportive crowd is

00:19:34.960 trying to do here in

00:19:35.800 this screenshot, for

00:19:37.000 whatever reason, once

00:19:37.680 again, they latched on to

00:19:38.540 this parody.

00:19:39.160 We can acknowledge

00:19:39.700 that.

00:19:40.120 But what they're

00:19:41.060 trying to do here is

00:19:41.820 they're trying to say

00:19:42.520 that this nation, they

00:19:45.340 have no conception of a

00:19:46.340 nation, to them it's the

00:19:47.260 sports team, which we'll

00:19:48.080 get into in a second.

00:19:49.560 This nation exists only

00:19:51.100 to promote the best and

00:19:52.440 brightest, and that's it.

00:19:53.420 That's their

00:19:53.980 foundational principle.

00:19:55.960 Otherwise, they

00:19:56.480 wouldn't be saying that

00:19:57.560 making sure that your

00:19:59.040 own are taken care of

00:20:00.000 and employed is DEI.

00:20:01.640 No one would have had

00:20:02.460 that conception.

00:20:03.220 No one would have

00:20:03.680 thought that was wrong

00:20:04.720 until we had this weird

00:20:06.560 conception of a nation,

00:20:07.640 which seems to have

00:20:08.580 invaded certain parts of

00:20:10.620 the center.

00:20:15.220 But yeah, no, the

00:20:16.520 sports team analogy is a

00:20:18.220 good one to get to real

00:20:19.080 quick because that is

00:20:20.380 just the most ridiculous

00:20:22.100 thing.

00:20:24.060 You know, Elon Musk

00:20:25.660 likened it to, oh,

00:20:26.900 America is like a sports

00:20:28.320 team.

00:20:28.660 You have to, if you want

00:20:29.520 to be competitive, you

00:20:30.400 have to find the best

00:20:32.760 players, right?

00:20:33.380 You have to get the best

00:20:34.200 players in each position.

00:20:35.320 If you're not recruiting

00:20:36.060 the top talent in those

00:20:37.640 positions, then, you

00:20:39.620 know, then the sports

00:20:40.560 team won't win.

00:20:41.820 And it's like, all right,

00:20:42.440 well, let's think about

00:20:43.100 that analogy for just a

00:20:44.340 second because it's

00:20:44.940 actually way worse for

00:20:46.100 your case than you think

00:20:47.320 it is.

00:20:48.060 Most people, their

00:20:49.460 biggest problem with

00:20:50.580 modern day sports is

00:20:51.720 that current athletes are

00:20:53.420 so mercenary.

00:20:54.600 They're willing to go

00:20:55.540 anywhere and do

00:20:56.500 anything for five more

00:20:58.040 dollars.

00:20:58.540 They will leave a team

00:21:00.140 that has invested them

00:21:01.220 for years, fans who have

00:21:02.380 cheered for them for

00:21:03.140 years just because

00:21:04.820 there's a slightly

00:21:05.960 larger opportunity

00:21:06.880 somewhere else.

00:21:07.400 Even entire teams will

00:21:08.340 do this, right?

00:21:08.900 They'll just pick up and

00:21:09.980 go because someone

00:21:11.840 offered them a slightly

00:21:12.720 newer stadium or

00:21:13.840 something.

00:21:14.160 They'll abandon a fan

00:21:15.620 base that has been

00:21:16.240 behind them for 50

00:21:17.580 years and a drop of

00:21:18.640 the hat because there's

00:21:20.340 there's greener pastors

00:21:21.240 somewhere else.

00:21:22.520 And the reason people

00:21:23.760 used to care about

00:21:24.860 sports teams was that

00:21:26.620 they represented your

00:21:28.280 locality.

00:21:29.020 Like you cared about

00:21:29.820 the local college team

00:21:30.900 even if you didn't

00:21:31.540 go to the college

00:21:32.380 because it represented

00:21:33.940 kind of the best and

00:21:35.120 the brightest of the

00:21:36.320 people, young men and

00:21:37.420 women in your area.

00:21:39.340 They had, they were

00:21:40.100 reflective of your

00:21:40.940 culture.

00:21:41.280 They were reflective

00:21:42.260 of your community.

00:21:44.200 That is why you were

00:21:45.220 attached to them.

00:21:45.980 Like, yeah, now today

00:21:47.340 sports teams are better

00:21:48.880 at what they do

00:21:50.140 technically, but they'll,

00:21:51.620 they'll sell you up in

00:21:52.640 a minute.

00:21:53.020 They don't have, you

00:21:53.600 have no connection to

00:21:54.620 them.

00:21:54.860 You feel no loyalty to

00:21:56.440 them.

00:21:56.700 They feel no loyalty to

00:21:57.940 you.

00:21:58.200 They would sell you out

00:21:58.960 in a moment.

00:21:59.600 Is that really how you

00:22:01.140 want your government to

00:22:02.920 act?

00:22:03.440 We saw this over and

00:22:04.280 over again from Elon.

00:22:05.780 We need America to

00:22:06.680 win.

00:22:07.040 We need America to

00:22:07.900 win.

00:22:08.220 We need America to

00:22:08.960 win.

00:22:09.200 Okay.

00:22:09.360 What does that mean?

00:22:11.180 What does it mean for

00:22:11.820 America to win?

00:22:12.760 Who is an American?

00:22:14.680 If you don't know who

00:22:15.880 an American is, then

00:22:17.160 how can America win?

00:22:18.520 If an American is just

00:22:19.500 everybody who's eligible

00:22:21.060 for a visa, then what

00:22:23.620 does that mean?

00:22:24.740 It just means everybody.

00:22:26.280 It's just globalism.

00:22:27.380 It's just globalism.

00:22:29.080 It's just open borders

00:22:30.080 with extra steps, open

00:22:31.700 borders with the

00:22:32.420 paperwork attached.

00:22:33.560 That's it.

00:22:34.500 There's no understanding

00:22:36.000 of what a nation is,

00:22:37.700 what it should be, what

00:22:38.700 it means to share goals

00:22:39.960 and values.

00:22:41.100 How are you ever going

00:22:42.660 to actually achieve

00:22:44.100 something?

00:22:44.660 Like, I forget who

00:22:45.880 said it, but they made

00:22:46.580 a great point.

00:22:47.280 Like, what about China?

00:22:49.940 Like, if China gets to

00:22:51.480 Mars before the United

00:22:53.060 States, is that losing?

00:22:54.920 Why?

00:22:55.120 Well, oh, because China

00:22:56.160 is a specific place and

00:22:57.900 a specific people.

00:22:59.200 And if they do it because

00:23:00.800 their people are achieving

00:23:02.060 it, that says something.

00:23:04.200 Well, how can America be

00:23:05.840 any less?

00:23:06.400 Are we less of a people

00:23:07.660 than China?

00:23:09.440 Is it the entire world

00:23:10.660 versus China or is it the

00:23:11.720 United States achieving

00:23:12.940 things as Americans?

00:23:14.960 We hope you're enjoying

00:23:15.980 your Air Canada flight.

00:23:17.300 Rocky's vacation, here we

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00:23:20.020 Whoa, is this economy?

00:23:22.120 Free beer, wine, and

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00:23:24.700 Sweet.

00:23:25.680 Fast-free Wi-Fi means I

00:23:27.100 can make dinner

00:23:27.560 reservations before we

00:23:28.920 land.

00:23:29.720 And with live TV, I'm not

00:23:31.460 missing the game.

00:23:32.780 It's kind of like I'm

00:23:34.040 already on vacation.

00:23:35.980 Nice.

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00:23:44.720 To your earlier point, and

00:23:47.220 I don't mean to keep

00:23:47.900 banging this drum, it

00:23:48.840 feels like maybe

00:23:50.260 Machiavelli or somebody

00:23:51.460 wrote about this once

00:23:52.480 upon a time.

00:23:53.200 You can't sustain a

00:23:54.560 civilization on

00:23:57.040 mercenary force.

00:23:57.180 You wrote a book or

00:23:57.640 two on this.

00:23:58.140 I feel like that might

00:23:59.700 have been the main

00:24:00.240 point somewhere, but

00:24:01.280 you know, these people

00:24:02.620 have assured me that

00:24:03.360 they're smarter, and

00:24:04.160 I'm but a mere

00:24:05.080 subtard in middle

00:24:06.100 America, so I'm sure

00:24:08.260 they would know better

00:24:08.860 than I would.

00:24:10.000 But I don't mean to

00:24:11.300 keep banging this

00:24:12.020 drum, but this still

00:24:13.380 goes to the very

00:24:14.360 foundational misconception

00:24:16.340 of a nation.

00:24:19.360 Machiavelli was

00:24:20.000 writing about this in

00:24:21.280 the Renaissance, and

00:24:22.220 even then he was just

00:24:23.300 recapitulating points that

00:24:24.940 good rulers understood,

00:24:26.280 which is that mercenaries

00:24:27.760 fight for pay, and it

00:24:29.680 is very difficult, if

00:24:30.760 not impossible, to get

00:24:31.760 somebody to spend their

00:24:33.840 life for pay.

00:24:35.260 In fact, that goes

00:24:35.900 against the whole point

00:24:36.680 of payment.

00:24:37.260 You want the payment to

00:24:38.380 live life better at the

00:24:39.500 end of it.

00:24:40.520 Rather, people die for

00:24:41.860 causes that are

00:24:42.760 metaphysical, things that

00:24:44.820 go beyond just the very

00:24:46.160 banal and vulgar things

00:24:49.340 that money can purchase.

00:24:51.560 This all has to do with

00:24:53.380 the nation, with

00:24:54.020 heritage, but these

00:24:55.800 people have no concept

00:24:56.840 of heritage, which

00:24:57.680 beyond it just

00:24:59.740 negatively affecting us

00:25:00.940 by policy now is

00:25:01.900 itself a nihilistic

00:25:04.900 worldview.

00:25:06.080 If you can accuse

00:25:06.780 anyone of nihilism, I

00:25:07.920 think it's kind of

00:25:09.640 been done to death

00:25:11.160 accusing the left of

00:25:12.180 nihilism.

00:25:12.700 I think the center is

00:25:14.120 probably the most

00:25:14.960 vocally nihilistic

00:25:16.440 section of the

00:25:18.560 political spectrum

00:25:19.600 right now.

00:25:20.220 It's all just money,

00:25:21.500 pay, and work all the

00:25:23.200 way to the bottom

00:25:23.860 until everyone just

00:25:24.980 expires.

00:25:27.200 Yeah, I mean, even

00:25:28.120 with what's on screen,

00:25:29.520 to further your point,

00:25:30.940 Ryan, and I think it is

00:25:31.740 the most important drum

00:25:32.620 to beat is that you

00:25:33.560 were just simply

00:25:34.220 looking at, from

00:25:35.480 these pro-H1B

00:25:36.460 arguments, the entire

00:25:38.160 tech pro-immigration

00:25:39.420 side has made it very

00:25:40.560 clear that this

00:25:41.540 mindset that they have

00:25:43.220 is entirely foreign

00:25:44.420 and alien to what has

00:25:45.780 been historically, and

00:25:47.060 still is for most parts

00:25:48.120 of the country,

00:25:49.060 fundamentally American.

00:25:50.060 American, and that's

00:25:51.360 not something that we

00:25:52.540 can really necessarily

00:25:53.500 grok with, no pun

00:25:55.020 intended there, but

00:25:56.380 it's just, our worlds

00:25:58.040 are completely

00:25:58.580 different, and so the

00:25:59.720 understanding that, well,

00:26:00.960 we need to do this to

00:26:01.820 bring in China, well, no

00:26:02.740 one else is doing it.

00:26:03.920 I mean, even Mike

00:26:04.600 Cernovich, of all people

00:26:06.040 who has his issues, had

00:26:08.020 asked the basic

00:26:08.720 question, well, if that

00:26:09.760 were really the case with

00:26:10.700 this system of

00:26:11.360 immigration, why isn't

00:26:12.480 Canada a tech

00:26:13.380 superpower?

00:26:14.360 Right.

00:26:14.580 And we're witnessing all

00:26:15.960 of that play out, and

00:26:16.780 instead, what are we

00:26:17.500 witnessing, frantic

00:26:18.980 ethnic nepotism, the

00:26:20.820 mass firing of the

00:26:22.300 people who are already

00:26:23.140 here, both for, like,

00:26:24.140 in Canada, we've already

00:26:24.780 seen that take place,

00:26:25.640 we've already seen this

00:26:26.200 with numerous tech CEOs

00:26:27.260 that as soon as someone

00:26:28.180 gets in there that is

00:26:29.080 not American or one of

00:26:30.280 the founders, blatantly

00:26:31.880 they will fire all the

00:26:32.920 American staff and ship

00:26:34.040 it back to India.

00:26:35.240 These people end up

00:26:36.280 going off on, you

00:26:37.960 know, they've landed

00:26:38.920 on, they were born on

00:26:39.840 third base being able to

00:26:40.960 get here and make their

00:26:41.920 money and make their

00:26:42.560 millions and then feed

00:26:43.360 it back home, and they

00:26:44.460 think that they, you

00:26:45.080 know, hit a triple play.

00:26:46.320 They didn't.

00:26:47.160 And in fact, the

00:26:48.060 system has been designed

00:26:49.420 deliberately for them to

00:26:50.620 take advantage of it and

00:26:52.000 to keep it away from

00:26:52.860 there.

00:26:53.140 And it's not only

00:26:53.700 suppressing wages, but

00:26:55.120 instead, they're saying,

00:26:55.980 well, you should work

00:26:56.600 harder, you should be

00:26:57.440 like us, you should have

00:26:58.380 a tiger mom, you should

00:26:59.260 have all these things to

00:27:00.100 keep it over there.

00:27:01.220 And it's fundamentally

00:27:02.060 un-American in the sense

00:27:03.480 that, yes, people would

00:27:04.420 work harder, but at this

00:27:05.800 point in time, with

00:27:07.060 comparison to how many

00:27:07.980 labor hours are put in

00:27:09.280 compared to productivity

00:27:10.280 and wages, you know,

00:27:11.660 we're less well off than

00:27:13.480 we were even when I was

00:27:14.720 born 29 years ago.

00:27:16.400 And it should be clear

00:27:17.800 as day as an example to

00:27:19.220 see this come out here

00:27:20.440 as tone deaf as it is,

00:27:22.240 that for a guy who's

00:27:23.240 made his money and has

00:27:24.420 had his family help

00:27:25.420 support his various

00:27:26.400 schemes in the

00:27:27.080 pharmaceutical industry

00:27:28.220 and venture capital

00:27:29.180 supporters, and even had

00:27:30.380 some of his supporters

00:27:31.240 kill themselves after being

00:27:32.460 indicted for fraud, that

00:27:34.120 it should come to no

00:27:35.160 surprise to anyone here

00:27:36.480 that we are fundamentally

00:27:37.360 dealing with an alien and

00:27:38.660 foreign culture that,

00:27:39.560 like Ryan said, wants you

00:27:40.900 to work and try and make

00:27:42.080 as much as you can and

00:27:43.220 then expire without any

00:27:44.660 indignity.

00:27:46.060 Yeah, and I want to read

00:27:47.300 through Vivek's post here

00:27:48.560 because, as both of you

00:27:49.680 had said, Elon's post had

00:27:52.320 problems, but he's walked

00:27:54.480 some of that back and

00:27:55.720 ultimately he has more

00:27:56.780 goodwill built up because

00:27:58.020 of his, you know, massive

00:28:00.200 financial support of Trump

00:28:01.640 and the purchasing of

00:28:02.820 Twitter, though I should

00:28:04.740 say, a number of people

00:28:06.860 who ratioed Elon lost

00:28:09.000 their blue check.

00:28:09.840 Um, we haven't gotten

00:28:11.580 an explanation as to

00:28:12.600 why, uh, CJ Engel was

00:28:14.660 one of them.

00:28:15.120 I ratioed him, but I

00:28:16.120 didn't lose mine.

00:28:16.860 There doesn't seem to be

00:28:17.820 a good rhyme or reason

00:28:18.800 to it.

00:28:19.580 Um, but, but the, he's

00:28:21.200 also announced that he's

00:28:22.220 going to change the

00:28:22.860 Twitter algorithm.

00:28:23.560 So if more, uh, verified

00:28:25.600 accounts block you or

00:28:27.380 mute you, that's going to

00:28:28.820 lower your reach.

00:28:29.600 So if you're saying

00:28:30.400 things that certain

00:28:31.360 people with bigger

00:28:32.560 accounts don't want to

00:28:33.360 hear, then your reach is

00:28:34.900 going to go down.

00:28:35.560 And if that sounds

00:28:36.200 familiar to you, that's

00:28:37.740 just what the blue check

00:28:38.640 mafia was in old

00:28:40.180 Twitter, right?

00:28:40.920 Like you, you got

00:28:41.840 D boosted.

00:28:42.560 You got, uh, you got

00:28:43.580 shadow banned.

00:28:44.600 If you were kind of

00:28:45.720 under the wrong

00:28:46.420 people's mentions, if

00:28:48.180 they were complaining

00:28:49.300 about you, then all of

00:28:50.380 a sudden your reach went

00:28:51.440 down.

00:28:51.760 So the whole point of

00:28:53.020 this was like, this was

00:28:53.840 supposed to be a free

00:28:54.520 speech site.

00:28:55.080 This is supposed to be a

00:28:55.920 place where we can have

00:28:56.560 this conversation.

00:28:57.220 And at first I was

00:28:58.180 like, oh, great.

00:28:59.040 Elon is willing to have

00:29:00.120 this conversation.

00:29:00.940 Even if it's getting a

00:29:02.060 little heated, at least

00:29:03.520 we can have this

00:29:04.580 conversation.

00:29:05.240 And that's still true

00:29:06.060 to some extent,

00:29:06.980 obviously this would not

00:29:08.220 be existing.

00:29:08.780 If Kamala Harris had

00:29:09.900 got, had one, like we

00:29:11.280 would just be continuing

00:29:12.220 the flood of illegal

00:29:13.300 immigration, no matter

00:29:14.120 what.

00:29:14.780 Now, the fact that

00:29:15.720 we've shifted the

00:29:16.440 conversation from

00:29:17.360 illegal immigration,

00:29:18.260 which we are definitely

00:29:19.160 all against at this

00:29:20.340 point to how much

00:29:21.620 legal immigration is a

00:29:22.680 huge shift.

00:29:23.320 That's a huge Overton

00:29:24.140 window shift.

00:29:25.040 We should recognize

00:29:25.940 that the fact that it

00:29:26.980 all took place here and

00:29:28.180 the mainstream media

00:29:28.900 basically lagged behind

00:29:30.480 desperately trying to

00:29:31.360 report on what was

00:29:32.040 happening in the real

00:29:32.820 areas.

00:29:33.500 Also huge, right?

00:29:34.540 That, that, that kind

00:29:35.380 of devastates the

00:29:36.880 mainstream media's

00:29:37.780 relevance and their

00:29:38.640 power.

00:29:39.220 So this is not all

00:29:40.660 a loss.

00:29:41.560 And ultimately, Elon

00:29:43.180 Musk has built up

00:29:44.220 enough credit, I think,

00:29:46.720 to probably survive some

00:29:47.820 of this if he's wise, if

00:29:49.660 he's wise and he

00:29:50.460 learns.

00:29:51.020 However, Vivek here was

00:29:53.680 just gross.

00:29:55.020 He was condescending.

00:29:56.180 This was ugly.

00:29:57.400 And, and it, like, the

00:29:59.440 ethnic resentment is just

00:30:00.640 oozing out of this post.

00:30:02.160 Like, you can come 100%

00:30:03.500 tell.

00:30:04.240 So let's, let's, let's

00:30:05.440 read a little bit out of

00:30:06.460 it and we'll just kind of

00:30:07.040 a react as we go along.

00:30:08.980 Vivek says, the reason

00:30:10.200 top tech companies often

00:30:11.420 hire foreign born first

00:30:13.400 generation engineers over

00:30:14.820 native Americans.

00:30:16.040 Why is that in

00:30:17.440 quotations?

00:30:19.720 Do, did people live here

00:30:21.100 before Vivek or not?

00:30:23.140 Is Vivek better than the

00:30:26.320 people who lived here

00:30:27.080 before?

00:30:27.580 Why is that in

00:30:28.160 quotations?

00:30:28.960 Over native Americans

00:30:30.120 isn't because of an

00:30:31.360 innate American IQ

00:30:32.720 deficit, a lazy and

00:30:34.860 wrong explanation.

00:30:35.800 A key part comes from

00:30:36.900 the C word, culture.

00:30:38.980 Tough questions demand

00:30:39.740 tough answers and is

00:30:40.640 really serious about

00:30:41.500 fixing the problem.

00:30:42.500 We have to confront a

00:30:43.820 truth.

00:30:44.820 Okay, so we're going to

00:30:46.280 get into all the dumb

00:30:47.500 stuff he says after

00:30:48.220 this, but it, I am

00:30:50.180 furious that he would

00:30:53.120 say something like this

00:30:54.460 knowing specifically

00:30:56.720 that the United States

00:30:58.880 has had a regime that

00:31:00.860 he has cried about

00:31:01.960 that he has decried

00:31:03.320 that he has helped

00:31:04.240 to document

00:31:05.000 that he has said

00:31:06.240 he is against

00:31:07.400 they have had a regime

00:31:09.240 that is specifically

00:31:10.300 for decades

00:31:11.760 suppressed American

00:31:13.400 talent.

00:31:14.100 It has kept people

00:31:15.500 out of our top

00:31:17.720 universities, the, our

00:31:19.400 boardrooms, the

00:31:20.560 leadership of our

00:31:21.280 corporations, even

00:31:22.060 getting hired by those

00:31:22.960 corporations because they

00:31:24.580 had the wrong skin

00:31:25.380 color or the wrong

00:31:26.320 genitalia, or they

00:31:27.220 didn't pretend to be a

00:31:28.000 homosexual or something

00:31:28.800 like that.

00:31:29.580 Like, because they did

00:31:30.760 not meet the DEI

00:31:31.860 requirements, they did

00:31:33.240 not get a shot.

00:31:34.300 I personally know so

00:31:36.540 many people who

00:31:37.800 specifically cannot move

00:31:39.420 forward because they

00:31:40.620 just don't have the DEI

00:31:41.780 requirements and

00:31:42.400 everyone around them

00:31:43.620 will tell them that

00:31:44.380 point blank.

00:31:45.000 They will look in the

00:31:45.540 eye and say, may want

00:31:46.720 to figure out, maybe

00:31:47.580 get a funny haircut, add

00:31:48.740 some pronouns, you know,

00:31:50.300 figure out a way you're

00:31:51.080 different because the

00:31:52.020 current environment

00:31:53.220 specifically kept

00:31:55.080 straight white Christian

00:31:56.940 males the most, but

00:31:58.860 others as well, out of

00:32:00.560 these opportunities.

00:32:01.820 So to say that it's the

00:32:03.120 culture of America

00:32:04.520 that has kept it from

00:32:06.060 having talent in the top

00:32:07.640 places is absolutely

00:32:09.100 insulting.

00:32:09.820 Americans who have had

00:32:10.720 to hear for years that

00:32:13.100 we have to import

00:32:14.320 illegal immigrants to do

00:32:15.720 jobs they won't do

00:32:17.140 were then told, sorry, I

00:32:19.700 know there are jobs you

00:32:20.580 want to do, but you're

00:32:21.400 too white or too male to

00:32:22.780 do them.

00:32:23.260 And now we're

00:32:25.200 hearing, oh yeah, we

00:32:26.000 know, and we campaigned

00:32:28.120 on the fact that there

00:32:29.140 was an entire system

00:32:30.240 built to keep you out of

00:32:32.700 these top jobs, but

00:32:34.100 sorry, now you don't

00:32:34.740 have the skills and we

00:32:35.680 have to replace you with

00:32:36.560 someone else who does

00:32:37.440 the fact that he would

00:32:39.040 bring this up and not

00:32:40.080 even touch on the other

00:32:42.340 factors involved in

00:32:44.260 restricting talent

00:32:46.720 inside the United States

00:32:48.640 is just absolutely insane.

00:32:51.180 It's, it's also just out

00:32:52.480 of date as well.

00:32:53.160 And we'll get, we'll

00:32:54.020 get into the details as

00:32:55.360 we keep reading through

00:32:56.180 this, uh, if you do let

00:32:57.580 me, of course, but of

00:32:58.560 course, um, this is a,

00:33:01.040 this is something very

00:33:01.800 interesting as well, just

00:33:02.860 because if you look at

00:33:05.500 Generation Z and I'll just

00:33:06.600 say this before we

00:33:07.500 progress, if you look at

00:33:09.720 Generation Z, it's not

00:33:11.300 that they're off doing

00:33:12.520 things that are non

00:33:14.020 productive.

00:33:14.480 It's that they have a

00:33:15.340 profound sense of apathy

00:33:16.760 for the reasons that you

00:33:18.600 just described.

00:33:19.280 There are quite a lot of

00:33:20.860 white males in Generation

00:33:22.960 Z, and I'm, I'm sure in

00:33:24.380 the coming generation as

00:33:25.480 well, as soon as they

00:33:26.340 start to mature, who just

00:33:28.540 give up, basically.

00:33:30.360 Uh, they, they don't try

00:33:31.500 to move somewhere to get

00:33:33.060 better jobs because they

00:33:34.480 know that they, they

00:33:35.340 won't make it.

00:33:36.440 Um, the high school system

00:33:38.440 basically just extinguished

00:33:40.440 all passion that they had

00:33:41.920 about any subjects.

00:33:43.160 I, I distinctly remember

00:33:44.420 one of my, uh, high school,

00:33:46.060 uh, principals, um, and

00:33:48.200 this would have been five

00:33:49.660 or six years ago now.

00:33:51.360 Uh, I, I distinctly

00:33:52.520 remember one of my high

00:33:53.380 school principals told me

00:33:54.460 that they have to cater to

00:33:56.700 the lowest common

00:33:57.380 denominator in anything,

00:33:58.540 uh, because the high

00:34:00.020 school isn't meant to

00:34:00.840 allow the most talented

00:34:02.200 and brightest to succeed.

00:34:03.740 It's meant to just get

00:34:04.740 everyone out the door of

00:34:05.620 the degree.

00:34:06.880 This is, uh, this is

00:34:08.740 quite the opposite end of

00:34:10.020 a high school, certainly

00:34:11.200 whenever we invented them

00:34:12.800 and instituted them as

00:34:13.760 policy.

00:34:14.240 But this is, uh, this is

00:34:16.260 the whole system.

00:34:16.900 It caters to the lowest

00:34:17.680 common denominator.

00:34:18.880 Your undergraduate, uh,

00:34:20.560 college classes are like

00:34:21.560 this as well.

00:34:22.320 You can just, just sit in

00:34:23.680 on one.

00:34:24.580 You, you will see it

00:34:25.860 immediately.

00:34:26.620 The only reason that

00:34:27.600 anyone is there is because

00:34:28.660 the high schools were

00:34:29.620 debased to such a low

00:34:31.040 degree that now you have

00:34:32.300 to have an undergraduate

00:34:33.180 degree to even show that

00:34:35.440 you know how to do

00:34:36.380 anything because we've

00:34:37.220 outlawed all of the other

00:34:38.320 filters that would show

00:34:39.480 that you know how to do

00:34:40.260 things.

00:34:40.980 So then, now, now since

00:34:43.480 the undergraduate degrees

00:34:44.680 are the filter to do, uh,

00:34:47.560 to show that you can do

00:34:48.380 anything, they too have to

00:34:50.000 be debased because now

00:34:50.960 everyone needs one because

00:34:51.980 it's discriminatory and

00:34:53.260 unfair if you say that not

00:34:54.680 everyone can do things the

00:34:55.740 same way.

00:34:56.580 So your undergraduate classes

00:34:58.240 now have to cater to the

00:34:59.420 lowest common denominator.

00:35:00.700 If the professors don't get

00:35:02.180 good enough scores from

00:35:03.320 their own students, which

00:35:04.300 is a horrendously, uh,

00:35:06.920 outside-in system.

00:35:08.060 If the professors don't get

00:35:10.300 good enough scores from

00:35:11.140 their students, their pay

00:35:12.500 will get docked, they'll

00:35:13.580 stop, they'll, they'll

00:35:14.680 basically get fired

00:35:15.440 eventually.

00:35:15.960 That's, that's where that

00:35:16.700 leads.

00:35:17.400 So you have to cater to the

00:35:18.500 lowest common denominator,

00:35:19.780 and now at this point you're

00:35:21.800 starting to see that

00:35:22.420 master's degrees aren't

00:35:23.780 really worth much as well.

00:35:25.220 Uh, it's, it's almost a

00:35:26.820 joke in some circles.

00:35:28.260 The master's degree is just

00:35:29.480 the, the cash cow because

00:35:31.120 the undergraduate degrees

00:35:32.320 aren't worth anything

00:35:33.080 anymore.

00:35:33.520 They're, they're common,

00:35:34.280 they're basic, they're

00:35:35.660 debased.

00:35:37.260 This is not a culture

00:35:39.420 problem.

00:35:40.440 This is a policy problem.

00:35:42.900 I, I, I don't know how

00:35:44.340 better to explain it than

00:35:45.380 that.

00:35:45.680 This is not the, the C

00:35:47.660 word culture as Vivek

00:35:49.220 describes it.

00:35:50.380 Uh, this is policy

00:35:52.100 destroying the passions of

00:35:53.800 young men in, in

00:35:54.760 particular.

00:35:55.900 Uh, in fact, it might be

00:35:57.220 considered culture eating.

00:35:59.140 Uh, this is, uh, Vivek has

00:36:02.220 it almost so perfectly

00:36:03.500 backwards that I'm

00:36:04.260 wondering if this just

00:36:05.180 wasn't deliberate.

00:36:08.020 It wasn't, but yeah, I

00:36:09.600 hear you.

00:36:10.080 I hear you.

00:36:11.080 Anything, uh, Prudentials

00:36:12.260 before we keep reading?

00:36:13.460 Uh, I, I think that

00:36:14.820 really the big thing to

00:36:16.920 take away from that is,

00:36:18.120 is that he refuses to

00:36:19.800 examine his, you know,

00:36:21.400 it's the whole physician

00:36:22.300 heal yourself thing.

00:36:23.320 Uh, Vivek doesn't want

00:36:24.620 things to change.

00:36:25.340 He's looking at it as an

00:36:26.340 outsider.

00:36:27.080 He identifies with this,

00:36:28.980 uh, grind set, you know,

00:36:31.820 America that is not part of

00:36:34.240 really who we are.

00:36:35.540 I mean, yes, people would

00:36:36.260 hustle and grind and do

00:36:37.360 what they can to do well

00:36:38.460 for themselves.

00:36:39.540 But as I mentioned earlier,

00:36:40.580 like the quality of the

00:36:41.420 American life or even the

00:36:42.520 average worker was so much

00:36:44.880 better prior to this system.

00:36:46.520 And I, I think that what

00:36:47.840 Ryan said perfectly

00:36:48.760 encapsulate this, this is a

00:36:50.520 policy problem that has

00:36:51.640 been going on for decades

00:36:52.940 that has suppressed wages,

00:36:54.780 instituted our own form of

00:36:56.220 indentured servitude, and

00:36:58.000 has only promoted more and

00:36:59.820 more immigration into

00:37:01.460 America by the people who

00:37:02.700 are already here that are

00:37:04.640 just fresh off the boat.

00:37:06.320 And that kind of system

00:37:07.340 here is antithetical to our

00:37:09.100 culture.

00:37:09.540 But instead he has to look

00:37:10.640 at this as many others had

00:37:12.420 pointed out in the replies and

00:37:13.680 quote tweets and analysis

00:37:14.900 that this is a guy who is

00:37:17.120 having an ordeal of

00:37:18.220 civility on, you know, for

00:37:19.960 millions of people to see.

00:37:21.040 And that ordeal of civility

00:37:22.880 tells me that this is the

00:37:24.100 guy that resents not being

00:37:26.320 part of what we would

00:37:27.860 constitute American culture.

00:37:29.020 He he's upset that, you

00:37:30.220 know, that he wasn't the

00:37:31.240 jock, that he wasn't the

00:37:32.120 high school guy.

00:37:33.020 All that this says to me is

00:37:34.660 resentment and hatred for

00:37:36.460 what, you know, you and I

00:37:37.620 would just call Americana.

00:37:39.760 Our American culture

00:37:41.120 venerated mediocrity over

00:37:43.660 excellence for way too long,

00:37:45.700 at least since the nineties

00:37:46.900 and likely longer.

00:37:48.060 That doesn't start in

00:37:49.100 college.

00:37:49.580 It starts young.

00:37:50.360 A culture that celebrates

00:37:51.760 the prom queen over the

00:37:53.560 math Olympiad champ or jock

00:37:55.800 over the valed Victorian

00:37:57.280 will will not produce the

00:37:59.540 best engineers.

00:38:00.800 A culture venerating

00:38:02.240 Corey from Boy Meets

00:38:03.680 World or if you think

00:38:05.940 Corey's the cool guy in

00:38:06.940 Boy Meets World, you're

00:38:07.940 anyway, or Zack and

00:38:10.460 Slater over Screech and

00:38:12.200 Saved by the Bell or

00:38:13.340 Stefan over Urkel in

00:38:16.060 Family Matters will not

00:38:17.120 produce the best engineers.

00:38:18.520 So, uh, this, this really

00:38:22.280 is guy who got stuffed in a

00:38:23.700 locker logic, right?

00:38:24.840 Like the, the, the deep,

00:38:26.140 uh, inadequacy and

00:38:27.960 resentment is just rolling

00:38:29.500 over this guy.

00:38:30.640 A couple things about this

00:38:32.260 from the top.

00:38:33.060 First, um, this entire view

00:38:36.060 of the United States is,

00:38:38.360 um, exactly, uh, backwards

00:38:41.640 from my entire experience.

00:38:43.720 Uh, my entire life has

00:38:46.100 been revenge of the nerds,

00:38:47.680 right?

00:38:47.980 It has been the elevation

00:38:49.400 of, uh, you know, all of

00:38:51.780 these nerdy, uh, different

00:38:53.480 pastimes, nerd culture now

00:38:55.200 dominates all this stuff.

00:38:56.960 And I say, this is somebody

00:38:58.220 who is very much into that

00:38:59.720 nerdy stuff.

00:39:00.420 Like I'm not here saying,

00:39:01.860 well, I was the prom king

00:39:03.180 and therefore that's the

00:39:04.120 most important thing in the

00:39:05.060 world.

00:39:05.300 But the idea that the,

00:39:07.080 like our entire culture has

00:39:08.440 been inverted this way, our

00:39:09.560 popular media since at least

00:39:10.660 the eighties has been

00:39:11.860 dominated by this idea that

00:39:13.480 the jocks and the cheerleaders

00:39:15.000 are the bad people.

00:39:16.140 They're the ones that

00:39:16.880 victimize everybody.

00:39:17.980 They're the ones who are

00:39:18.680 going to be worthless after

00:39:19.720 high school when all the

00:39:20.560 smart kids go and get their

00:39:22.200 degrees and run the world.

00:39:23.660 Like that has been the

00:39:25.060 theme of every single

00:39:26.740 television show my entire

00:39:29.400 life.

00:39:30.440 And yet he's still echoing

00:39:32.120 this idea as if this is what

00:39:33.900 the popular culture puts

00:39:35.320 forward.

00:39:35.720 Like that is just absolutely

00:39:37.160 not the case.

00:39:38.200 The big bang theory was what

00:39:40.000 the top show in the United

00:39:42.040 States, which is its own

00:39:43.600 judgment on our culture, I

00:39:44.800 suppose.

00:39:45.420 But like that, that was its

00:39:46.600 own, you know, phenomenon

00:39:48.340 for over a decade.

00:39:50.180 Like you're telling me that

00:39:52.080 it's the jocks and the cool

00:39:53.420 guys who are venerated in all

00:39:54.700 these situations.

00:39:55.340 Like this is just a jealous

00:39:57.500 loser mentality.

00:39:58.800 Also, the idea that every

00:40:00.100 nerd is a math lead and

00:40:01.900 every jock is an idiot is

00:40:03.880 just stupid.

00:40:04.600 I don't remember the show

00:40:06.100 Family Matters all that

00:40:08.400 well, but if I remember

00:40:09.180 correctly, Steve Urkel's

00:40:11.000 counter ego, Stefan, there

00:40:12.980 was just as smart as

00:40:14.600 Urkel.

00:40:15.100 He just was also cool.

00:40:16.960 Like he just lost all the

00:40:18.120 antisocial aspects of this.

00:40:20.540 Sorry, but like this is not

00:40:21.840 a decision between being

00:40:24.440 well turned out and

00:40:25.760 physically fit and these

00:40:27.120 kind of things and also

00:40:28.460 being intelligent.

00:40:29.720 Yes, often people

00:40:30.440 specialize one or the

00:40:31.500 other.

00:40:31.680 We should venerate both.

00:40:33.140 But the idea that the

00:40:34.320 American culture should only

00:40:36.340 be worried about the guy who

00:40:38.420 is, you know, devoting his

00:40:40.260 entire life to engineering

00:40:41.600 is foolish.

00:40:42.960 Like North or South Korea

00:40:45.800 has a booming sector when it

00:40:49.940 comes to tech and finance.

00:40:51.100 Right.

00:40:51.700 Also, they have below the

00:40:54.160 replacement birth rates that

00:40:55.240 are so bad that they're

00:40:56.660 they're even below North

00:40:57.980 Korea's birth rates.

00:40:59.760 like there's a lot to be said

00:41:01.560 about birth rates.

00:41:02.380 But at this point, South

00:41:03.880 Korea's birth rates are so

00:41:05.400 dire that they might have a

00:41:07.780 problem existing if they

00:41:09.200 continue on this level.

00:41:10.220 But his idea is, well, we

00:41:11.840 should emulate that.

00:41:12.640 We should.

00:41:13.340 Every kid should be just like

00:41:14.740 in South Korea where they

00:41:15.940 grind 14 hours a day, 16

00:41:18.340 hours, whatever, you know,

00:41:20.020 nothing extracurricular that's

00:41:22.080 not tied to your college

00:41:24.020 entry or your job.

00:41:25.200 Those are the only things that

00:41:26.560 matter.

00:41:26.840 We're like, sorry, no, that

00:41:28.420 is actually not the way that

00:41:29.980 people in the United States

00:41:31.180 have to live to succeed.

00:41:32.980 It never was before.

00:41:34.320 We had the Protestant work

00:41:35.860 ethic.

00:41:36.360 We worked hard, but we

00:41:37.980 didn't have to turn everyone

00:41:39.260 into a, you know, into a

00:41:41.800 champion violinist or math

00:41:43.740 nerd or spelling bee

00:41:45.080 champion.

00:41:45.420 Like those weren't the only

00:41:46.440 routes to victory.

00:41:48.100 Right.

00:41:48.660 And if you look at the

00:41:50.620 aristocrats of Christendom in

00:41:52.080 particular, they were

00:41:52.860 oftentimes both.

00:41:53.880 You were not a you were not

00:41:55.760 truly aristocratic if you

00:41:57.060 were not fit and apt at some

00:41:59.180 sort of a physical

00:42:00.800 application.

00:42:03.040 If fencing was very popular,

00:42:04.400 say, in Germany and in the

00:42:06.380 English speaking world, it was

00:42:08.180 oftentimes various forms of

00:42:09.460 hunting, which was a quite

00:42:11.740 physically intensive,

00:42:12.720 especially over a hundred

00:42:14.000 years ago.

00:42:15.500 And you also had to be

00:42:16.880 intelligent and learned.

00:42:18.320 This is a this dichotomy here

00:42:20.600 that Vivek is spewing is

00:42:23.000 something that seems like a

00:42:25.100 Hollywood invention for the

00:42:26.680 most part.

00:42:27.220 It definitely hasn't persisted

00:42:28.480 in the high schools to this

00:42:29.520 day.

00:42:30.140 And everyone was in his

00:42:31.440 reply saying how they knew

00:42:32.820 they knew about like these

00:42:34.400 nerdy types that had zero

00:42:36.020 social skills and they didn't

00:42:36.960 go very far.

00:42:37.720 Whereas the the prom queen

00:42:40.000 of the prom king went very

00:42:41.980 far, their engineers or

00:42:42.980 whatever.

00:42:43.640 The reason that everyone has

00:42:45.260 this experience is because

00:42:46.360 that's how that's how these

00:42:47.520 things work.

00:42:48.460 It turns out your physical

00:42:49.820 aptitude and your mental

00:42:51.200 ability are both linked.

00:42:53.120 And it's been we've

00:42:54.260 recognized this since the

00:42:55.340 Greeks and in antiquity.

00:42:57.460 But more moreover, just

00:42:59.660 going back to the fact that

00:43:00.700 this is this seems like a

00:43:01.880 Hollywood trope, especially

00:43:03.860 to Gen Z, who is being

00:43:05.400 maligned here, quite in

00:43:07.320 particular millennials as

00:43:09.360 well.

00:43:09.580 But Gen Z are the ones that

00:43:10.640 are going through college

00:43:11.360 right now and apparently

00:43:12.160 aren't up to it.

00:43:14.760 I've this was the first thing

00:43:16.540 that caused me to make my

00:43:18.280 YouTube channel even was

00:43:20.080 that these this social

00:43:22.000 stratification in the high

00:43:23.200 school does not exist

00:43:24.240 anymore.

00:43:24.920 There are not cliques of

00:43:26.060 jocks and cheerleaders

00:43:27.140 against nerds and geeks or

00:43:28.400 what what not else.

00:43:30.340 It really doesn't exist.

00:43:32.200 You might be able to find

00:43:33.100 one or two high schools in

00:43:34.280 the U.S. where that's still

00:43:35.180 the case, but everything

00:43:36.120 else is atomized, which

00:43:38.840 isn't the worst thing.

00:43:40.920 But the sort of Gen Xer

00:43:42.840 resentment that Vivek is

00:43:45.100 talking about right here,

00:43:46.540 this the jocks are out to

00:43:48.260 get you.

00:43:48.600 They've always been trying

00:43:49.460 to get you.

00:43:50.000 They're the reason that the

00:43:51.140 culture is going downhill.

00:43:52.700 You have to get them.

00:43:54.160 This this doesn't reflect

00:43:55.380 reality.

00:43:56.420 And I say Gen Xer because

00:43:58.220 everyone on my timeline that

00:44:00.340 took Vivek's side here was

00:44:02.120 specifically because Vivek

00:44:04.500 mentioned that it's jocks

00:44:06.260 versus nerds.

00:44:08.040 Every Gen Xer went off on

00:44:09.880 that night.

00:44:10.500 I feel like there's something

00:44:11.800 there.

00:44:12.800 It's a it's very equivalent to

00:44:15.880 ethnic resentment, sort of

00:44:17.760 this like high school class

00:44:19.560 resentment that just hasn't

00:44:21.080 gone away after all these

00:44:22.560 decades.

00:44:23.560 Well, we'll really see that

00:44:24.260 in the next the next part

00:44:25.700 there.

00:44:25.960 But anything before we move

00:44:27.000 on there, Prude?

00:44:28.000 You know, we've joked a lot

00:44:30.260 or in you and I about what

00:44:31.760 returning to the 90s looks

00:44:33.200 like.

00:44:33.500 This is one of those things

00:44:34.580 about returning to the 90s.

00:44:35.920 We shouldn't go back to

00:44:37.000 because that's exactly what

00:44:38.200 this is.

00:44:38.700 I mean, referencing all these

00:44:39.960 shows that sort of

00:44:40.920 millennials had grown up with

00:44:42.580 and those that were a

00:44:44.040 little older than them.

00:44:45.060 I mean, like hit shows

00:44:45.960 from the 80s and 90s,

00:44:47.160 like this is what we want

00:44:47.940 to go back to is this kind

00:44:49.160 of mentality when things

00:44:50.960 are far more, you know,

00:44:52.960 nuanced and far more

00:44:54.300 complicated than just this.

00:44:56.060 But no, as Ryan pointed

00:44:57.360 out, it's not just

00:44:58.340 resentment, but it also

00:44:59.420 illustrates just a severely

00:45:00.920 limited TV brain.

00:45:03.680 Everything is like a 90s

00:45:05.280 sitcom that we grew up

00:45:06.700 with.

00:45:06.980 And this is the way that

00:45:07.680 we're going to look at the

00:45:08.420 world.

00:45:09.000 And if that's your only

00:45:09.780 hermeneutical tool and

00:45:11.200 lens to understand American

00:45:12.880 culture, one, it's sort

00:45:14.800 of an indictment on us,

00:45:15.700 like you mentioned, with

00:45:16.420 respects to the Big Bang

00:45:18.340 Theory, but also more

00:45:19.360 importantly, if that's your

00:45:20.620 only frame of reference,

00:45:21.800 it really illustrates just

00:45:23.460 how alien you are to what

00:45:25.440 is, you know, American

00:45:26.840 culture and American

00:45:28.360 identity with that respect.

00:45:30.260 Because, I mean, even when

00:45:31.340 I was in high school and I

00:45:32.500 graduated high school a

00:45:33.680 little over 10 years ago

00:45:34.780 now, I mean, the most,

00:45:36.580 you know, well-liked,

00:45:37.900 charming person was also

00:45:39.760 the star quarterback, but

00:45:41.040 also had more or less a

00:45:42.260 perfect score on his

00:45:43.060 ACT and ended up going

00:45:43.980 to West Point.

00:45:45.040 Like, there really is

00:45:46.220 just this huge

00:45:47.000 misunderstanding, this

00:45:48.200 huge TV brain that is

00:45:50.200 infected his understanding

00:45:51.280 of American culture.

00:45:52.320 And just as we saw with

00:45:53.200 Vivek and the sports

00:45:54.040 team analysis, if your

00:45:55.460 idea of a nation is going

00:45:57.120 to be a sports team or a

00:45:58.800 TV show, you are going

00:46:00.460 to get taken advantage of

00:46:02.560 so quickly by people who

00:46:03.940 actually know what game

00:46:05.180 and what time it is.

00:46:06.780 Yeah, that's exactly

00:46:07.620 right.

00:46:08.320 All right.

00:46:08.580 Speaking of here's here's

00:46:09.820 his next part.

00:46:10.460 This was probably the

00:46:11.080 most damning of them

00:46:11.840 all.

00:46:12.820 Fact.

00:46:13.580 I know multiple sets of

00:46:15.160 immigrant parents in the

00:46:16.120 90s who actively limited

00:46:17.400 how much their kids could

00:46:18.780 watch those shows precisely

00:46:20.420 because they promoted

00:46:21.440 mediocrity and their kids

00:46:24.480 went on to become wildly

00:46:25.540 successful STEM graduates.

00:46:27.100 Now, to be clear, I'm not

00:46:28.480 about to say, oh, your

00:46:29.400 kids should watch more TV.

00:46:30.640 That's not what this is

00:46:31.640 about.

00:46:31.980 Yeah, have them watch less

00:46:33.300 TV.

00:46:33.720 Great.

00:46:34.280 The point here is he says

00:46:35.460 specifically immigrant

00:46:37.160 parents did this.

00:46:39.220 And that's why they

00:46:40.160 outcompete you today.

00:46:42.240 Pete Quinone has made a

00:46:43.100 great point about this

00:46:44.280 when he was talking about

00:46:45.520 this post on his stream.

00:46:46.940 That is just straight up

00:46:48.280 saying we immigrants were

00:46:50.260 better than you.

00:46:51.100 We raised our children

00:46:52.040 better than you because

00:46:52.840 our culture is better than

00:46:54.340 yours.

00:46:54.860 And so now we deserve

00:46:56.740 what you have.

00:46:58.340 That's all that post is

00:47:00.060 saying right there.

00:47:00.720 That's all that phrase

00:47:01.800 says.

00:47:02.500 We immigrants are better

00:47:04.600 than Americans.

00:47:05.820 Our culture is better.

00:47:06.980 That's why we were wiser.

00:47:08.160 We didn't let our kids

00:47:09.200 watch this.

00:47:10.060 Like, yeah, like every

00:47:11.240 successful American kid

00:47:12.460 was doing this and their

00:47:13.520 kids went on.

00:47:14.480 And so that's why our kids

00:47:15.640 went on to be STEM

00:47:16.380 graduates.

00:47:16.940 No, your kids went on to

00:47:17.880 be STEM graduates because

00:47:19.320 literally the law made it

00:47:21.540 illegal for your

00:47:23.460 competitors to succeed.

00:47:26.040 Sorry, Vivek.

00:47:26.920 I'm sure you're really

00:47:28.000 smart and I'm sure your

00:47:29.400 kids are smart and I'm

00:47:31.100 sure that they are

00:47:32.080 capable without winning

00:47:33.500 at some level with the

00:47:35.340 thumb on the scales.

00:47:36.740 But guess what?

00:47:37.380 The thumb was on the

00:47:39.060 scales.

00:47:40.180 The thumb was there the

00:47:41.420 whole time.

00:47:42.980 And if you are going to

00:47:43.800 sit there after being the

00:47:45.160 beneficiary of a system

00:47:46.440 which you specifically have

00:47:48.220 spoken out against and are

00:47:49.460 perfectly aware of, which

00:47:51.660 suppressed the ability of

00:47:53.940 the Native Americans that

00:47:55.660 you put in quotes to

00:47:57.980 succeed, and then you are

00:48:00.160 going to brag about your

00:48:02.720 ability to succeed in that

00:48:05.000 environment, your superior

00:48:06.240 ability.

00:48:08.140 Sorry, that's too much.

00:48:09.880 That is ridiculous.

00:48:12.720 That is way too much.

00:48:14.540 Okay?

00:48:15.620 Yes.

00:48:16.680 I am sure that the top

00:48:18.320 0.1% of immigrant

00:48:20.980 children are really bright

00:48:22.960 and earning positions into

00:48:24.880 those scenarios.

00:48:25.560 But that's the other thing

00:48:27.420 that Vivek is doing.

00:48:28.440 He's not comparing one

00:48:30.780 top 1% or top 0.5% of

00:48:34.080 immigrant children to

00:48:35.780 American children.

00:48:37.000 He's comparing the middle

00:48:39.080 of the middle or even the

00:48:40.300 bottom middle class of

00:48:41.500 America to the top 0.5%

00:48:45.580 of immigrants.

00:48:46.460 These are not comparative

00:48:47.960 cultures.

00:48:48.480 Do you think that the

00:48:49.340 average white kid who's

00:48:51.300 making it in to these

00:48:52.960 different Ivy League schools

00:48:54.660 had the exact same

00:48:56.140 upbringing you're talking

00:48:57.120 about?

00:48:57.480 Do you think that all

00:48:59.280 they spent all of their

00:49:00.080 time watching Boy Meets

00:49:01.280 World?

00:49:01.660 Probably not.

00:49:03.120 But that's the issue,

00:49:04.200 right?

00:49:04.380 He's comparing, he's

00:49:05.180 looking at the, like,

00:49:06.560 sorry, Bollywood isn't

00:49:07.980 exactly some great fount

00:49:10.180 of culture, right?

00:49:11.940 Like, it's not bringing

00:49:13.640 out the next Shakespeare.

00:49:16.120 Okay?

00:49:16.920 That's not what is

00:49:18.160 happening.

00:49:19.280 What's happening is you

00:49:21.240 have an advantage.

00:49:22.880 You're skimming the cream

00:49:24.800 off a certain percentage.

00:49:26.080 You're bringing it in and

00:49:27.400 then you're comparing it

00:49:28.420 to the entirety of the

00:49:31.040 United States instead of

00:49:32.100 looking into a

00:49:32.620 comparable sample.

00:49:33.940 And also, you're

00:49:34.820 bringing in a bunch of

00:49:35.500 expectation and cultural

00:49:37.120 baggage and, you know,

00:49:38.740 your own high school

00:49:40.380 experience into here.

00:49:42.240 More movies like

00:49:43.400 Whiplash, fewer reruns of

00:49:45.000 Friends, more math

00:49:45.980 tutoring, fewer sleepovers,

00:49:47.800 more weekend science

00:49:48.600 competitions, fewer

00:49:49.580 Saturday morning cartoons,

00:49:51.120 more books, less TV,

00:49:52.740 more creating, less

00:49:54.540 chilling, more

00:49:55.360 extracurriculars, less

00:49:56.820 hanging out the mall.

00:49:58.060 Look, I can agree that

00:49:59.820 American education is

00:50:02.120 garbage.

00:50:02.820 A lot of it is garbage

00:50:03.740 because it specifically

00:50:04.580 holds back the successful.

00:50:06.140 It does it on purpose.

00:50:07.120 But also, the time of even

00:50:09.040 the most successful

00:50:09.840 children is wasted because

00:50:11.580 of the way the leftist

00:50:13.040 junk that is taught in all

00:50:14.700 of these, the way, like,

00:50:15.820 you guys were talking

00:50:16.520 about, Ryan, where it is

00:50:18.020 specifically created to

00:50:20.020 hold back and cater to the

00:50:21.380 lowest denominator.

00:50:22.260 I'm for changing all of

00:50:24.240 those things.

00:50:24.780 But sorry, that doesn't

00:50:26.120 mean that actually

00:50:27.140 everything should be a

00:50:28.160 math competition and a

00:50:29.240 science competition.

00:50:30.080 It means you should have

00:50:31.260 math tutoring instead of

00:50:32.200 sleepovers.

00:50:32.980 Again, social health, the

00:50:35.520 health of the average

00:50:36.460 person is not just how

00:50:38.160 many facts they can

00:50:39.420 recite.

00:50:40.080 One of the major issues

00:50:42.000 that our current young

00:50:43.180 population is dealing

00:50:44.340 with is an inability to

00:50:45.500 connect, an inability to

00:50:46.900 make friends, an inability

00:50:48.160 to form romantic

00:50:49.200 relationships and therefore

00:50:50.720 marriages, an inability to

00:50:52.280 be involved in religious

00:50:53.160 communities.

00:50:54.260 These are the biggest

00:50:55.580 issues that they're

00:50:56.440 facing.

00:50:57.020 Would it be great if they

00:50:57.960 got real educations?

00:50:59.060 Yes.

00:50:59.520 Would that make America

00:51:00.500 more competitive?

00:51:01.520 Yes.

00:51:02.060 Is it the fault of our

00:51:03.960 culture, TM?

00:51:05.400 No.

00:51:05.940 No, it is not.

00:51:07.040 Sorry.

00:51:07.460 That is not the case.

00:51:08.840 And does that mean that

00:51:09.560 every kid now has to turn

00:51:11.160 into some kind of tiger

00:51:12.440 mom, you know, violin

00:51:13.820 champion, to spend every

00:51:15.480 waking moment on the

00:51:16.420 spelling bee, never lift a

00:51:17.740 weight, never go outside,

00:51:18.940 never, you know, never

00:51:20.340 talk to a girl.

00:51:21.080 No, sorry.

00:51:21.880 That is not actually how

00:51:23.460 you should then alter our

00:51:25.360 culture.

00:51:26.260 That is not your prerogative.

00:51:28.280 You don't get to make those

00:51:29.340 judgments.

00:51:30.240 That is not how this works.

00:51:32.800 And were they entitled

00:51:33.920 ones?

00:51:34.620 Right, right.

00:51:37.600 Sorry, that was a long

00:51:38.540 rant if anyone wants to

00:51:39.500 jump in.

00:51:41.580 When I found out my friend

00:51:43.060 got a great deal on a

00:51:44.200 designer dress from

00:51:44.980 Winners, I started

00:51:46.340 wondering, is every

00:51:48.020 fabulous item I see from

00:51:49.460 Winners?

00:51:50.380 Like that woman over

00:51:51.360 there with the Italian

00:51:52.260 leather handbag.

00:51:53.340 Is that from Winners?

00:51:54.520 Ooh, or that beautiful

00:51:55.900 silk skirt.

00:51:57.060 Did she pay full price?

00:51:58.280 Or those suede sneakers?

00:51:59.860 Or that luggage?

00:52:00.960 Or that trench?

00:52:02.080 Those jeans?

00:52:02.780 That jacket?

00:52:03.520 Those heels?

00:52:04.380 Is anyone paying full

00:52:05.800 price for anything?

00:52:07.360 Stop wondering.

00:52:08.620 Start winning.

00:52:09.540 Winners.

00:52:10.120 Find fabulous for less.

00:52:12.240 I mean, that's all I can

00:52:14.420 say is that we're being

00:52:16.480 called the entitled ones,

00:52:17.380 especially Generation Z.

00:52:18.860 This is, once again, this

00:52:19.760 is the generation that is

00:52:21.360 being focused on the

00:52:22.380 people that supposedly

00:52:23.220 can't handle the 80-hour

00:52:25.340 work weeks while being a

00:52:27.260 STEM grad or whatever

00:52:28.180 else.

00:52:29.960 But this group here that

00:52:32.920 wants to just import a

00:52:33.860 completely new population

00:52:34.880 because their culture is

00:52:35.980 better.

00:52:37.060 Somehow we're the entitled

00:52:38.340 ones because we, quite

00:52:40.000 frankly, most of Generation

00:52:41.820 Z is just asking for the

00:52:43.880 Protestant work ethic where

00:52:45.120 you, where you try to make

00:52:46.640 the best of something that

00:52:48.640 whatever it is that you're

00:52:49.560 trying to build while still

00:52:51.700 being able to enjoy things

00:52:52.940 because ultimately in the

00:52:53.880 Protestant work ethic, if you

00:52:55.080 aren't enjoying it, if you

00:52:56.280 aren't fulfilled by it, it's

00:52:57.880 not work that you're supposed to

00:52:59.220 be doing for the glory of God.

00:53:01.060 This is what most of the

00:53:02.600 American population descends

00:53:05.360 from is this work ethic.

00:53:07.320 Instead, what we've switched it

00:53:08.500 out for and what Vivek is

00:53:10.400 advocating is the sort of

00:53:12.560 nihilistic work until you die

00:53:14.700 ethic, the tiger mom ethic.

00:53:17.480 You mentioned the birth rates

00:53:18.820 between South Korea and

00:53:19.800 North Korea, and this is a

00:53:21.300 very interesting experiment

00:53:22.400 because on the one hand, you

00:53:24.380 have the whole let's divide the

00:53:25.660 country into half between

00:53:26.740 economic systems and which

00:53:27.940 does better.

00:53:28.880 I think the far more

00:53:29.980 interesting analysis here is

00:53:31.360 let's divide the countries into

00:53:32.540 half and have one where you

00:53:33.560 have this metaphysical

00:53:35.220 overbearing spirit, and then

00:53:37.920 another one where you have just

00:53:39.100 nihilism and work yourself to

00:53:40.580 death culture, and we'll see

00:53:42.420 which one survives after four or

00:53:44.560 five generations, and

00:53:45.540 currently it's the totalitarian

00:53:47.700 dictatorship, not the one with

00:53:49.440 tiger moms and women in the

00:53:51.140 workforce who are being pushed

00:53:53.380 to working themselves to death.

00:53:55.080 One of these two things is

00:53:56.360 apparently suicidal for a

00:53:57.800 civilization, and it's not the

00:53:59.580 juche totalitarian on the

00:54:01.500 northern border.

00:54:03.020 This is a, I feel like the

00:54:04.680 Americans can learn something

00:54:05.800 here.

00:54:06.100 We are not built, in fact, not

00:54:09.260 even just the Americans.

00:54:10.120 It seems that humanity is not

00:54:11.500 built to just work itself to

00:54:12.880 death in 80-hour work weeks

00:54:14.280 while only pursuing STEM

00:54:16.080 topics.

00:54:17.000 It seems like that will destroy

00:54:18.460 your civilization far faster than

00:54:20.320 anything else has.

00:54:21.660 Maybe an invading army could get

00:54:23.620 it done faster if it was

00:54:25.340 particularly vicious.

00:54:27.740 I think this is also, I

00:54:30.880 distinctly remember my high

00:54:32.380 school teachers, the older

00:54:33.320 ones, were always talking about

00:54:35.240 how there's an argument between

00:54:36.480 STEM and the humanities, and

00:54:37.780 every single time STEM wins out.

00:54:39.580 The humanities get further

00:54:40.700 shunted.

00:54:41.440 We focus more on science,

00:54:42.640 technology, engineering, and

00:54:43.700 mathematics, and that's the

00:54:44.680 end of it.

00:54:45.460 And this reflected my high

00:54:46.960 school, certainly, is that

00:54:48.300 mathematics in particular was

00:54:50.440 always the great field to

00:54:53.060 study.

00:54:53.480 That was the smart person's

00:54:55.160 field.

00:54:55.500 It got the most attention.

00:54:57.000 It was sort of like the

00:54:58.200 signifier of intelligence.

00:55:00.320 And this is mathematics without

00:55:01.600 the philosophy as well, so this

00:55:02.940 is purely utilitarian

00:55:04.140 mathematics.

00:55:04.700 Meanwhile, the humanities were

00:55:07.540 just seen as something you had

00:55:08.680 to complete so that you could

00:55:09.760 graduate.

00:55:11.040 I feel like this maybe was the

00:55:13.600 wrong path to go down, once

00:55:15.160 again, because we've seen where

00:55:16.940 countries focus only on STEM at

00:55:19.140 the cost of the humanities.

00:55:21.700 We see what it produces.

00:55:23.120 We see what the culture is like.

00:55:24.280 We see what they can

00:55:24.920 accomplish.

00:55:25.960 We accomplished more as a

00:55:27.560 civilization when we

00:55:28.560 prioritized the humanities over

00:55:30.180 STEM to a great degree.

00:55:31.460 That's when we were landing

00:55:32.680 people on the moon.

00:55:33.960 That's whenever we were

00:55:34.820 engineering atomic technologies

00:55:37.460 and whatnot else.

00:55:38.720 That's when our scientists were

00:55:40.520 actually bearable people and we

00:55:41.880 weren't producing these social

00:55:44.220 outcasts, which currently now

00:55:46.040 inhabit the STEM sectors of our

00:55:48.580 country.

00:55:49.800 Whenever we were prioritizing the

00:55:51.680 humanities, I feel like maybe the

00:55:53.540 human nature of all this is what

00:55:55.180 actually causes people to succeed

00:55:56.740 and not just the amount of rote

00:55:58.080 memorization of equations or

00:56:00.740 functions or whatever else.

00:56:02.160 I feel like there's something

00:56:03.420 here in all of that.

00:56:06.300 Even just beside the

00:56:07.600 metaphysical point on a

00:56:08.860 materialist lens, I kind of find

00:56:10.200 it funny that Musk has spent so

00:56:12.880 much of his time focusing on

00:56:15.620 natalism and the population

00:56:17.480 decline question, whilst the

00:56:19.480 entire system is brought upon and

00:56:21.440 brought and kept up by a system

00:56:23.540 where they're asking for people to

00:56:24.860 have no life.

00:56:26.260 One of the guys whose account I

00:56:28.280 think was either deactivated or had

00:56:29.860 been, you know, hidden or deleted

00:56:31.140 by Musk and all these replies and

00:56:33.160 whatnot, I'm pretty sure it was a

00:56:34.660 deactivation.

00:56:35.420 He had said, you know, my son has

00:56:36.700 done all these things and he can't

00:56:38.680 seem to even get his foot in the

00:56:39.760 door despite taking every class,

00:56:41.140 going to every university, going to

00:56:42.280 an Ivy League.

00:56:43.440 And someone had said, you know, well,

00:56:44.520 if he's willing to work, you know,

00:56:45.580 80 to 100 hours a week, he can apply

00:56:47.140 here at this like AI startup firm.

00:56:49.080 And it's just like, okay, but where

00:56:50.900 does one have life in that question?

00:56:52.680 Where does one have the time to be a

00:56:54.220 father and to be present in their

00:56:56.220 children's lives, let alone to have

00:56:58.540 the time to find someone to marry

00:57:00.140 and to, you know, be well enough in

00:57:02.880 their position and their station to

00:57:04.680 actually start families and to have

00:57:06.560 marriages?

00:57:07.500 No, it goes back to the fundamental

00:57:09.320 point that that sort of thing requires

00:57:11.400 either, you know, immigrant indentured

00:57:14.040 servitude, slavery, the same thing

00:57:16.220 that's been talked about from the side

00:57:17.540 of things for years, or we want our

00:57:19.420 system to be maintained, but we'll run

00:57:20.920 to the government if we feel

00:57:21.880 threatened.

00:57:22.840 And at the end of it all, what you're

00:57:24.500 witnessing here is a culture and a

00:57:26.600 system that is saying we will do

00:57:27.880 anything that we can to keep it up

00:57:29.260 ourselves because we know that it is

00:57:31.420 easier to control and manage and make

00:57:33.380 more money when we have an increase of

00:57:35.740 diversity or it's completely ethnically

00:57:38.060 homogenous in some of these tech

00:57:39.440 sectors because that's how we know that

00:57:41.660 it all goes to myself and my friends.

00:57:44.440 We saw this all the time when it comes

00:57:46.720 to every study that, you know, even

00:57:48.680 Eric Weinstein pointed out and others too

00:57:50.200 that when you increase the diversity of

00:57:51.780 an area, civic participation and civic

00:57:54.200 trust goes down.

00:57:55.360 This is why every major metropolitan

00:57:57.540 election for mayor, whether it's New

00:57:59.080 York City or Dallas, Texas, becomes an

00:58:01.560 ethnic census for turnout.

00:58:03.540 And it's the same thing here.

00:58:04.620 It's why Whole Foods, owned by Amazon,

00:58:06.980 uses diversity tracking to ensure that

00:58:09.400 their places stay just diverse enough so

00:58:11.560 union formation does not happen or any

00:58:14.340 organized labor takes place.

00:58:16.120 And so, again, the system is up there for

00:58:18.560 some form of control, some form of

00:58:20.320 authoritarianism that we would rather do

00:58:22.320 anything to keep the system propped up

00:58:24.360 than anything else.

00:58:25.560 Orrin and I talked about this a couple

00:58:26.980 of weeks ago when it came to the issue

00:58:28.820 of euthanasia in Britain, that they are

00:58:32.000 so determined to keep the NHS going, to

00:58:34.520 keep the immigration system going, that

00:58:36.900 rather than to try and promote a

00:58:39.520 healthier vision for Britain, to promote

00:58:41.740 a healthier vision for native Britons, that

00:58:44.600 the answer to the question is, is, well, we

00:58:46.320 need to keep our form of market, you know,

00:58:49.620 our sort of mixed markets going, that we

00:58:53.760 would rather have the opportunity for you

00:58:55.880 to willingly kill yourself than to offer

00:58:59.080 any alternative vision here.

00:59:00.880 And I think that that's a big part of what

00:59:02.240 we're seeing out of Vivek is that we would

00:59:04.280 rather keep our system, our Gibbs, our

00:59:06.340 entitlements going and for you to just eat

00:59:09.060 the dust off our boots.

00:59:11.700 Yep, absolutely.

00:59:13.260 All right, let's finish this up real quick.

00:59:15.440 Most normal American parents look skeptical

00:59:18.220 at those kinds of parents.

00:59:19.800 More normal American kids view those kinds

00:59:21.960 of kids with scorn.

00:59:22.940 If you grow up aspiring to normalcy,

00:59:24.680 normalcy is what you will achieve.

00:59:27.220 Yeah, again, I think it was Egypius,

00:59:29.980 who's a great poster, he basically said

00:59:32.220 to Vivek, he's just like, F you, when I was

00:59:35.140 a professor in America, all I saw were

00:59:37.800 hungry kids, young males who could not get

00:59:41.140 a break because they were being pushed

00:59:42.940 to the side because of basically an

00:59:45.440 ethnic cartel policy set up to make them

00:59:48.460 make it unable for them to advance.

00:59:50.980 So, yeah, like, sorry, it's not a bunch

00:59:52.620 of people looking sideways at someone

00:59:54.540 who is desiring excellence.

00:59:56.040 Does that exist to some extent in

00:59:58.140 basically every culture?

00:59:59.540 Yes.

01:00:00.300 But ultimately, like, is that specific

01:00:02.460 to America and some American problem

01:00:04.880 that has to be overcome by importing

01:00:07.160 a large amount of, you know, foreign

01:00:09.280 workers who have so much better culture

01:00:11.580 and will just produce better kids?

01:00:13.340 Like, no, no, sorry, that that's not the solution.

01:00:16.520 Now, close your eyes and visualize your families

01:00:18.200 you knew in the 90s who raised their kids

01:00:19.760 according to one model versus the other.

01:00:21.360 And let's be brutally honest.

01:00:23.460 Normalcy doesn't cut it.

01:00:24.720 It's a hyper competitive global market

01:00:26.360 for technical talent.

01:00:27.640 And if we pretend like it does,

01:00:29.360 we'll have our asses handed to us by China.

01:00:32.100 All right, so, um, is China known for its innovation?

01:00:38.260 Is China known for its ability to create new products?

01:00:43.080 Or is it known for just stealing

01:00:45.160 everybody else's intellectual property?

01:00:47.840 Like, yeah, they have a lot of people

01:00:49.780 who are very dedicated and they work really hard.

01:00:51.940 And you know what they're able to do

01:00:53.460 by being super dedicated and really hard?

01:00:55.740 At their best, they're able to copy

01:00:57.900 the things that we create.

01:00:59.280 So actually, maybe it's not just working

01:01:03.900 80 hours a week that produces greatness.

01:01:07.080 If China is stealing the vast majority

01:01:09.340 of its innovations because it does not have

01:01:11.640 the capacity to think and create in the same way,

01:01:15.800 perhaps because it's grinds all of their children

01:01:18.200 into a fine paste for efficiency points,

01:01:21.700 then maybe that's not the place to go.

01:01:24.600 Maybe it doesn't have to be a global talent market

01:01:27.560 if you just invest in the people here.

01:01:30.000 As you guys were pointing out,

01:01:31.480 when people said,

01:01:32.220 hey, Elon, why don't you invest

01:01:34.060 in the people of the United States?

01:01:35.200 His response was, oh, well, if you need a school,

01:01:37.980 then you've already lost.

01:01:39.960 No, that's dumb.

01:01:41.180 Like, sorry, some of the great industrialists

01:01:43.720 in American history

01:01:44.940 specifically created portions

01:01:47.300 of our educational institutions

01:01:48.680 to train their own workforce.

01:01:50.300 Now, we can have problems with that

01:01:52.140 and it's long-term ramifications,

01:01:53.460 but ultimately, the idea that you can't just invest

01:01:57.040 in the American worker is insane.

01:01:59.780 Like, create a tech boot camp.

01:02:01.940 Take kids right out of high school

01:02:03.460 so they don't have to go through

01:02:04.680 this ridiculous college scenario

01:02:06.840 that we have right now

01:02:07.780 filled with DEI

01:02:08.840 and all of these other regulations.

01:02:10.540 Let them go directly into it.

01:02:12.400 Or if these tech workers are so valuable,

01:02:14.820 if they're once-in-a-generation geniuses,

01:02:17.260 well, then just change the H1B requirement

01:02:19.460 so that companies have to pay 100% tax

01:02:23.280 on every salary they pay a foreign worker

01:02:26.140 and that money goes directly

01:02:27.540 to train American students.

01:02:31.040 Problem solved.

01:02:32.100 You get your best talent

01:02:33.300 and your money goes to invest

01:02:35.640 in the American people.

01:02:37.200 That's simple, right?

01:02:38.100 Unless, of course,

01:02:39.800 that's not what you're using the H1B for.

01:02:42.320 What you're actually using it for

01:02:43.660 is to undercut American labor

01:02:45.060 to create a global market for labor

01:02:48.160 where you get to privatize the wins

01:02:53.980 and we all get to socialize the costs.

01:02:56.380 Where we have to live in the neighborhoods,

01:02:58.440 we have to live with the crime,

01:02:59.860 we have to live with the crumbling social fabric,

01:03:02.660 we have to live with the generations of kids

01:03:05.120 who don't get opportunities,

01:03:06.500 who aren't invested in,

01:03:07.880 we have to live with all that

01:03:09.100 and you get to live in a rich neighborhood

01:03:11.100 where you get the top 1% of everything

01:03:13.180 and you don't really notice the difference

01:03:14.860 because all you've done is surround yourself

01:03:16.840 with sycophants and people

01:03:18.040 who make an obscene amount of money

01:03:19.480 to avoid the costs

01:03:20.800 of the very situation you've created.

01:03:23.800 This is an eminently solvable problem

01:03:26.320 and the answer is investing in Americans

01:03:29.520 at every point.

01:03:31.700 None of it is,

01:03:32.900 sorry, your culture just sucks

01:03:35.020 and we've got to fix it for you

01:03:36.400 because we're the immigrants

01:03:37.120 who know how to get this done.

01:03:38.680 No, I'm sorry.

01:03:39.560 That is absurd.

01:03:41.760 It's backhanded.

01:03:42.380 It's condescending.

01:03:43.860 Vivek just absolutely destroyed himself here,

01:03:46.600 lost all credibility,

01:03:48.100 hopefully in the eyes of everyone.

01:03:50.440 As I put the comment here,

01:03:52.240 I didn't quite ratio him on this one,

01:03:53.660 but it did well.

01:03:54.880 Turns out the waste that Doge

01:03:56.140 wanted to cut from America was Americans.

01:04:02.220 I think, again,

01:04:03.780 it raises a fun question about entitlement

01:04:06.060 or who's the best of the best coming in

01:04:08.180 when both, you know,

01:04:09.540 trying to compete against China,

01:04:11.060 who, you know,

01:04:12.000 this was an issue that even Pat Buchanan

01:04:13.480 was writing about 30 years ago

01:04:14.960 that they're imitative,

01:04:16.180 they don't really innovate,

01:04:17.500 and when it comes to American intellectual property,

01:04:20.420 they will do everything that they can

01:04:21.880 to, you know,

01:04:22.560 steal ours that way

01:04:23.780 that they can try and exploit it and do so.

01:04:26.060 And if not,

01:04:26.600 they'll go to our geopolitical partners

01:04:29.280 in the world.

01:04:30.160 I mean, Pat Buchanan was writing about this

01:04:31.700 in Where the Right Went Wrong in 2004,

01:04:35.000 that, you know,

01:04:35.840 a lot of intellectual property theft

01:04:37.560 with regards to our defense technologies

01:04:39.100 gets stolen by the Chinese

01:04:41.760 from our partners in the Middle East,

01:04:43.500 whether it be Israel or other partners

01:04:45.240 we have in the region like Turkey.

01:04:46.640 And then additionally,

01:04:48.060 also India is known for having

01:04:49.740 huge cheating scandals

01:04:51.100 every single year.

01:04:53.040 I mean,

01:04:53.180 the BBC was just reporting about it

01:04:54.960 earlier in June of this year

01:04:56.980 that they have, you know,

01:04:58.540 scandal after scandal

01:04:59.480 of just their own civil service exams.

01:05:01.840 And we're really supposed to expect

01:05:03.460 that somehow a system

01:05:05.300 that does not encourage

01:05:06.280 the best and the brightest to come here

01:05:07.580 are all of a sudden going to be the ones

01:05:09.320 that aren't coming from that similar culture

01:05:11.020 where it's about cheating

01:05:12.020 and ethnic nepotism

01:05:13.180 and everything like that.

01:05:14.340 No,

01:05:14.960 there's no competing against a system

01:05:16.900 that is antithetical to ours

01:05:18.640 when we're trying to imitate that

01:05:20.580 is only going to create

01:05:21.840 the same conditions

01:05:22.920 that they came from.

01:05:24.720 And I'm sorry,

01:05:25.320 I don't want to turn California into Canada.

01:05:27.820 I don't want to turn any part of America

01:05:29.200 into Canada with respects to immigration.

01:05:32.120 And the same thing should be said there.

01:05:33.600 I don't want to have

01:05:34.360 the same sort of cheating scandals

01:05:35.840 or the same sort of academic,

01:05:37.440 you know,

01:05:37.780 replication crisis

01:05:38.800 that we're already enduring.

01:05:40.260 We've already seen this

01:05:41.080 with Indian journals as well

01:05:42.380 where like AI generated images

01:05:44.440 were used as models

01:05:45.880 and used as images

01:05:47.160 for their journals

01:05:47.920 about scientific papers

01:05:49.420 with regards to medical technologies.

01:05:51.320 Like,

01:05:51.440 let's not repeat that here.

01:05:52.760 But instead,

01:05:53.920 I think we have two distinct,

01:05:55.680 you know,

01:05:56.380 cultures that we can examine.

01:05:58.060 One being clearly

01:05:59.080 an American one

01:06:00.140 that has gone to the moon,

01:06:01.740 that has created great things,

01:06:03.540 actually using its talent

01:06:05.000 and utilizing the best

01:06:06.460 of American ingenuity

01:06:08.180 and as well as the best ideas

01:06:09.680 and world views from Europe

01:06:11.460 versus what we've got right now.

01:06:13.340 And clearly,

01:06:13.800 when we look at ourselves

01:06:14.960 in regards to innovation,

01:06:16.020 are we really innovating anything?

01:06:18.020 Or are we just creating

01:06:18.700 another sales service product

01:06:20.420 that is going to be

01:06:21.200 a subscription service

01:06:22.180 that, you know,

01:06:23.100 turns us into a society

01:06:24.340 of renters?

01:06:26.860 And it's specifically

01:06:28.340 a society of renters

01:06:29.560 that we can't be.

01:06:30.940 America has its own language

01:06:32.620 distinct from the English

01:06:33.780 on the British Isles.

01:06:35.320 We have our own heritage.

01:06:37.340 It was,

01:06:37.720 and in fact,

01:06:38.260 the people that founded

01:06:39.100 the country

01:06:39.560 as a distinct sovereign entity

01:06:41.180 codified who those people were.

01:06:43.820 We here in the present

01:06:44.940 look back to our heritage

01:06:46.480 and also look forward

01:06:47.620 to our progeny,

01:06:48.780 and that is the nation.

01:06:49.860 If we look back

01:06:51.760 at what our forefathers

01:06:52.780 built with bleeding hands

01:06:54.160 out of the wilderness

01:06:55.140 and creating for us

01:06:56.520 a civilization,

01:06:58.000 we can't,

01:06:58.520 we don't have the ability

01:06:59.840 or the purchase

01:07:00.480 to just give that away

01:07:01.480 to the highest bidder

01:07:02.280 or the most qualified

01:07:03.700 according to a standardized test

01:07:05.720 or an employer.

01:07:07.540 And similarly,

01:07:08.300 if we look forward

01:07:08.860 to our progeny,

01:07:10.100 we don't have the purchase

01:07:11.360 to give away things

01:07:12.840 that should be going

01:07:13.600 to their benefit.

01:07:15.380 The country

01:07:16.180 and the nation

01:07:16.860 is not a concept

01:07:18.120 that is identical

01:07:19.320 with meritocracy.

01:07:20.460 We can have meritocratic

01:07:21.940 things within the country,

01:07:23.740 but the country itself

01:07:24.580 can never be meritocratic.

01:07:26.160 It would dissolve itself.

01:07:27.420 It's mutually exclusive.

01:07:30.460 This is what

01:07:31.260 has gone out the window.

01:07:33.540 We can't,

01:07:35.020 we cannot do it.

01:07:36.420 It's a moral impropriety,

01:07:38.720 something that would be

01:07:39.780 deeply shameful

01:07:41.360 if we read about it

01:07:42.740 in some sort of

01:07:43.620 ancient epic

01:07:45.640 or poem

01:07:46.360 or whatnot else.

01:07:47.300 If you read about

01:07:48.180 a present generation,

01:07:50.060 a living generation,

01:07:51.240 giving away everything

01:07:52.160 that their forefathers

01:07:53.020 worked for

01:07:53.680 to complete outsiders

01:07:55.640 at the expense

01:07:56.640 of their own children,

01:07:58.080 it would be a tragedy,

01:08:00.120 number one.

01:08:01.180 And number two,

01:08:02.740 it would be horrific.

01:08:04.900 We would try

01:08:06.140 to rationalize it away

01:08:07.440 as something

01:08:08.260 that was just being

01:08:09.060 generally discussed

01:08:10.700 and not literal

01:08:11.520 if we read that

01:08:12.360 in an ancient poem

01:08:13.180 because there's no way

01:08:14.300 that some group of people

01:08:15.860 could just do something

01:08:16.760 like that on a whim.

01:08:18.340 But yet,

01:08:18.740 here we are.

01:08:20.120 Below contempt, right?

01:08:21.300 That would be the way

01:08:22.220 that it's viewed

01:08:22.800 by anybody

01:08:23.640 up to the current day.

01:08:26.760 So,

01:08:27.200 I'm not going to hit

01:08:29.300 every post

01:08:29.800 like I said in that,

01:08:30.540 but I just want to hit a few

01:08:31.600 because as you can imagine,

01:08:33.360 there are

01:08:33.800 some people

01:08:35.240 who revealed themselves.

01:08:36.800 Not that many of them

01:08:37.740 weren't already

01:08:38.400 clearly kind of

01:08:39.480 obvious,

01:08:41.100 but some of them

01:08:43.300 came out

01:08:44.340 and revealed themselves

01:08:45.300 as absolutely ridiculous

01:08:46.940 and people who

01:08:47.840 have been grifting,

01:08:48.920 they've been talking

01:08:49.480 about the evils

01:08:50.440 of globalism

01:08:51.380 and all this stuff

01:08:52.220 this whole time

01:08:52.920 and actually it turns out

01:08:54.420 that they didn't care

01:08:55.860 about any of it

01:08:56.660 when someone actually

01:08:58.100 pushed back

01:08:58.620 against globalists,

01:08:59.820 globalism,

01:09:00.620 they fully embraced it

01:09:01.740 and just ran around

01:09:02.560 calling everybody

01:09:03.260 who didn't racist.

01:09:04.600 One of them

01:09:05.080 was Michaela Peterson

01:09:05.960 who said,

01:09:06.780 why'd the woke right,

01:09:08.260 there we go,

01:09:08.920 nice,

01:09:09.200 where'd you get that term,

01:09:10.060 pretend it was

01:09:11.300 illegal immigration

01:09:12.780 they were against

01:09:13.540 when it turns out

01:09:14.440 that it was immigration

01:09:15.420 in general?

01:09:16.420 Well,

01:09:17.280 the MAGA,

01:09:18.600 the Trump voters,

01:09:19.760 if you mean all the

01:09:20.700 actual Republican supporters,

01:09:23.340 they believed this.

01:09:24.760 This was never a confusion.

01:09:26.320 In fact,

01:09:26.980 you can look at the polls

01:09:28.820 throughout American history

01:09:30.920 for as long as they've

01:09:31.880 basically existed

01:09:32.860 on immigration

01:09:33.740 and consistently

01:09:35.160 people left and right

01:09:36.580 have been against

01:09:37.240 both illegal

01:09:38.180 and in most cases

01:09:39.480 legal immigration.

01:09:41.260 This is nothing new.

01:09:42.120 This is not some weird turn.

01:09:44.020 This is,

01:09:44.480 yes,

01:09:44.660 the focus was on

01:09:45.420 illegal immigration

01:09:46.060 because that was

01:09:46.580 the most egregious example

01:09:48.020 and the thing that needed

01:09:49.000 to be solved right away,

01:09:51.220 but this is not anything new.

01:09:52.980 At least be honest about it.

01:09:54.400 If there's assimilation

01:09:56.200 into the culture

01:09:56.900 and legal immigration,

01:09:58.080 what's the problem

01:09:58.680 other than skin color?

01:10:00.460 A couple things

01:10:00.900 about Michaela Peterson.

01:10:02.120 She's not American.

01:10:04.500 She fled her country.

01:10:05.780 She fled her country of Canada.

01:10:08.560 Why did she flee

01:10:09.360 her country of Canada?

01:10:10.460 Well,

01:10:10.680 there's a couple reasons.

01:10:12.000 One is that

01:10:13.600 there's no free speech there.

01:10:15.280 There's a high level

01:10:16.040 of political correctness

01:10:18.080 and prosecution

01:10:19.000 based on it.

01:10:20.020 There's economic problems.

01:10:22.020 There's housing problems.

01:10:23.180 There's health care problems.

01:10:24.980 But one of the huge mistakes

01:10:27.280 that Canada has made

01:10:28.500 is it opened its own borders

01:10:30.420 to a large amount

01:10:31.720 of qualified immigrants

01:10:33.440 through very similar means

01:10:34.900 that we're talking about now,

01:10:37.160 especially countries like India,

01:10:39.320 and the country degraded.

01:10:40.780 It degraded in quality.

01:10:42.140 Too many people

01:10:42.680 were competing for jobs.

01:10:43.720 Too many people

01:10:44.220 are competing for housing.

01:10:45.860 It's the point

01:10:46.320 where now people

01:10:46.840 are seeking Canadian health care

01:10:48.520 through the MAID program

01:10:50.280 because they can't afford

01:10:51.500 to pay their bills.

01:10:52.620 People are literally

01:10:53.380 killing themselves

01:10:54.120 because they cannot compete

01:10:55.540 in the economy

01:10:56.780 that was created

01:10:57.760 in exactly the system

01:10:59.140 that Michaela Peterson

01:11:00.200 is now extolling.

01:11:02.100 And guess what?

01:11:03.200 She just got here.

01:11:04.900 And immediately thinks

01:11:06.160 she can run around

01:11:06.840 calling Americans racist

01:11:08.280 because they don't want

01:11:09.180 to turn their country

01:11:10.260 into Canada.

01:11:10.900 She is just a Californian.

01:11:13.260 She's just a Californian

01:11:14.700 who moves into your state

01:11:15.980 and tells you,

01:11:16.800 yeah, I know that my state

01:11:18.160 is unlivable.

01:11:19.160 I know we destroyed

01:11:19.860 one of the most beautiful places

01:11:21.140 in the world

01:11:21.720 and it's functionally impossible

01:11:23.160 for us to have a civilization

01:11:24.440 there anymore

01:11:24.980 because the exact policies

01:11:26.540 that I believed in

01:11:27.600 were instated.

01:11:28.680 But now I think

01:11:29.540 you should do the things

01:11:30.440 the way we did in California.

01:11:32.160 Yeah, I know

01:11:33.020 it destroyed our state,

01:11:35.140 but what if we could

01:11:36.000 destroy your state too?

01:11:37.320 These people are locusts.

01:11:39.140 They're locusts.

01:11:39.840 They just eat everything

01:11:40.980 they can.

01:11:41.600 They consume it.

01:11:42.460 They're rootless.

01:11:43.480 They move on

01:11:44.100 to the next place

01:11:44.720 and they just eat

01:11:45.840 it all as well.

01:11:46.700 They do not care

01:11:47.600 about the people.

01:11:48.460 They do not care

01:11:49.540 about the culture.

01:11:50.420 They have no roots here.

01:11:52.060 There is just nothing

01:11:53.060 tied to this.

01:11:54.380 And Michaela Peterson

01:11:55.220 is, you know,

01:11:56.220 white as the driven snow

01:11:57.260 and she still has

01:11:58.200 this very stupid opinion.

01:11:59.860 So sorry,

01:12:01.340 this is a specific malady

01:12:03.700 of people who think

01:12:04.580 they can just rearrange cultures.

01:12:06.420 It is dumb

01:12:07.000 every time it's tried,

01:12:08.200 whether it's done in Canada,

01:12:09.880 the United States,

01:12:11.160 Britain.

01:12:11.580 It's always a mistake.

01:12:12.820 It always fails.

01:12:14.300 And all these people

01:12:15.120 want to do is move

01:12:15.820 to the place

01:12:16.220 where it hasn't failed

01:12:16.920 quite as badly

01:12:18.040 and make sure it gets ruined

01:12:19.240 by the very policies

01:12:20.100 they just made

01:12:21.840 in their own nation

01:12:23.280 that they had to flee.

01:12:27.260 We also got

01:12:31.980 Constantine Kissin here.

01:12:33.800 Won't spend a lot of time

01:12:34.720 on this guy.

01:12:35.560 Already said plenty.

01:12:36.960 But the post is,

01:12:38.540 now that Elon Vivek

01:12:39.620 and others who came

01:12:40.220 across the woke right,

01:12:41.200 it's helpful to once again

01:12:42.240 lay out the basics.

01:12:43.060 The woke right

01:12:43.480 is a section of the right

01:12:44.580 which is like the woke left,

01:12:46.940 believes in racism

01:12:47.780 for the right reasons.

01:12:49.460 It's a conspiracy

01:12:50.080 about how the world

01:12:50.880 is systemically,

01:12:51.720 institutionally against them

01:12:52.760 and happily uses the tactic

01:12:54.600 of mobbing

01:12:55.140 and canceling others.

01:12:56.000 Other woke right tactics

01:12:57.920 to attack their opponents.

01:12:59.340 They won't believe

01:12:59.780 in discussing views

01:13:00.560 or ideas,

01:13:01.080 only winning.

01:13:01.720 It's basically BLM

01:13:02.660 for white people.

01:13:03.820 Again,

01:13:04.800 who on the internet right

01:13:07.620 is canceling anybody?

01:13:08.760 In fact,

01:13:09.240 James Lindsay started

01:13:09.980 doxing people over this.

01:13:11.820 So actually,

01:13:12.480 it's these guys

01:13:13.400 who are acting

01:13:14.260 as woke leftists.

01:13:16.760 Elon is taking

01:13:18.480 people's checks away

01:13:19.860 or, you know,

01:13:21.300 de-boosting their accounts,

01:13:22.300 changing the algorithm

01:13:23.160 to censor people.

01:13:24.440 Who's the one

01:13:25.100 canceling here?

01:13:25.820 Who is that?

01:13:26.740 Oh, also,

01:13:27.500 it's BLM for white people.

01:13:28.740 So hiring people

01:13:30.480 in the United States

01:13:31.340 who live in the United States

01:13:32.740 is BLM.

01:13:34.740 That's how that works.

01:13:35.860 If you prefer

01:13:36.760 the people of your nation

01:13:38.520 to foreigners,

01:13:39.800 and by the way,

01:13:40.380 Constant Kissen

01:13:40.880 is not in the United States.

01:13:42.440 He's in Britain.

01:13:43.140 And by the way,

01:13:43.580 he's not a native

01:13:44.500 to Britain either.

01:13:45.260 He's an immigrant.

01:13:46.080 So he's insulting

01:13:46.760 two cultures

01:13:47.560 that he had to come to,

01:13:49.300 came to one,

01:13:50.220 isn't even a part

01:13:50.860 of the other at all.

01:13:51.900 And he's insulting them

01:13:53.040 and saying,

01:13:53.300 oh, this is just BLM

01:13:54.340 for white people.

01:13:56.060 Feel free to return

01:13:57.200 to where you love so much,

01:14:00.160 Constant,

01:14:00.620 since that's such a great system.

01:14:02.580 Since that,

01:14:03.280 you know,

01:14:03.420 what we're running here

01:14:04.120 is so bad,

01:14:04.920 it's just a bunch of racists

01:14:06.120 over here.

01:14:07.140 Then feel free.

01:14:08.640 I'm sure there's a great system

01:14:10.000 waiting back

01:14:10.680 at home for you.

01:14:12.000 But feel free

01:14:15.620 to jump in here, guys.

01:14:16.500 Yeah, it's a,

01:14:17.440 there's this,

01:14:18.420 they've also just pulled

01:14:20.100 the frame

01:14:20.600 where it's racism

01:14:22.380 if you think

01:14:23.300 that the nation

01:14:24.280 has a responsibility

01:14:25.760 to its people.

01:14:27.460 Right.

01:14:28.320 I cannot,

01:14:30.120 whenever the left

01:14:30.880 accused people of this

01:14:32.460 in like 2016,

01:14:34.420 I distinctly remember

01:14:35.360 everyone was talking about

01:14:36.280 this is just

01:14:36.720 civilizationally suicidal,

01:14:38.780 who would be malignant

01:14:40.480 or idiotic enough

01:14:41.900 to believe that

01:14:42.820 if you want your nation

01:14:43.740 to continue existing

01:14:45.080 as a distinct entity

01:14:46.440 then you're racist.

01:14:47.700 In fact,

01:14:48.040 that was the whole

01:14:48.700 part of the,

01:14:49.900 that was the whole

01:14:50.840 cascade of political

01:14:52.680 awakening,

01:14:53.660 if you will,

01:14:54.280 that caused everyone

01:14:55.180 to go further

01:14:55.760 to the right

01:14:56.200 was as soon as you were told

01:14:57.220 you cannot have

01:14:58.380 your own homeland.

01:15:00.220 But,

01:15:00.800 now that's apparently

01:15:01.700 woke right.

01:15:02.380 It's woke right

01:15:03.020 to believe

01:15:03.560 that you have

01:15:04.580 ancestors

01:15:05.320 and will have progeny

01:15:06.860 that should take priority

01:15:08.780 over other nations

01:15:09.840 because they're yours.

01:15:12.340 Are you taking care

01:15:12.960 of your children?

01:15:13.980 Oh,

01:15:14.340 that's BLM.

01:15:15.420 That's racism.

01:15:17.160 That's DEI

01:15:18.200 for your kids.

01:15:19.400 Your kids are white,

01:15:19.980 right?

01:15:20.220 That's DEI for them.

01:15:21.460 You're preferring them

01:15:22.160 over some random child

01:15:23.460 somewhere in India

01:15:24.860 or in Bangladesh

01:15:25.660 or in China?

01:15:27.360 What kind of racist

01:15:28.020 are you?

01:15:29.360 I was going to like

01:15:30.840 playfully say

01:15:32.180 that I guess

01:15:32.680 Aristotle was woke right,

01:15:33.920 but that is an actual line

01:15:35.060 I've seen taken

01:15:35.840 by people arguing

01:15:36.820 against Stephen Wolf.

01:15:37.780 So I guess

01:15:40.020 this is just where we are.

01:15:41.360 But on the bright side

01:15:43.660 to everyone in the audience

01:15:44.860 who might agree with us

01:15:45.760 here on the panel,

01:15:46.920 apparently the woke right

01:15:48.000 is the oldest

01:15:48.620 living ideology.

01:15:50.260 It has a great history.

01:15:52.500 Quite the intellectual tradition

01:15:53.620 reaching all the way

01:15:54.400 back to ancient Greece.

01:15:55.460 Yeah,

01:15:55.700 we have Aristotle,

01:15:57.140 Aquinas,

01:15:58.240 every living philosopher

01:15:59.760 until about the 1950s.

01:16:02.260 Feeling pretty good

01:16:02.840 about that,

01:16:03.320 yeah.

01:16:03.620 Yeah,

01:16:03.940 quite frankly,

01:16:05.040 I don't know

01:16:05.440 what's so wrong with it.

01:16:06.840 Yeah,

01:16:07.780 all right.

01:16:09.720 Last one here.

01:16:10.680 James Lindsay

01:16:11.420 just beclowned himself

01:16:13.580 many a time during this.

01:16:14.780 Can't go through all his hits,

01:16:16.320 but this was my favorite one.

01:16:17.900 J.D. Vance is pushing

01:16:18.880 the fascist definition

01:16:20.400 of a nation

01:16:21.080 as the predominant definition

01:16:22.920 for America

01:16:23.780 in defiance

01:16:25.580 of all American history.

01:16:27.320 I didn't make him do it.

01:16:28.680 I would have advised him

01:16:29.440 against it,

01:16:30.060 but he's not listening to me.

01:16:30.980 He's listening to you.

01:16:31.800 And he was talking

01:16:32.420 to Yoram Harzoni here.

01:16:34.640 He was talking to Harzoni.

01:16:38.120 But this is amazing.

01:16:40.880 J.D. Vance,

01:16:41.680 who might be

01:16:42.620 one of the most popular

01:16:43.960 vice presidential

01:16:46.140 kind of electees

01:16:48.240 in quite a while,

01:16:50.260 one with certainly

01:16:51.160 the highest profile of many

01:16:52.520 and is looked upon

01:16:54.220 very fondly

01:16:54.980 in a way

01:16:55.280 that most are not.

01:16:56.580 He's a fascist.

01:16:57.700 Why?

01:16:58.560 Because he thinks

01:16:59.380 America is a nation.

01:17:00.800 That's literally

01:17:01.540 what he's attacking.

01:17:02.740 J.D. Vance believes

01:17:03.460 that America is a nation

01:17:04.480 and James Lindsay

01:17:05.540 doesn't think it is.

01:17:07.860 That's it.

01:17:08.620 Like, it's that simple.

01:17:10.240 America is an economic zone.

01:17:12.560 J.D. Vance thinks that,

01:17:13.680 oh, actually, no,

01:17:14.440 America is a people

01:17:15.280 and it's a place

01:17:16.500 and we have to care about them.

01:17:18.060 And he says,

01:17:18.540 that makes you racist

01:17:19.540 and you're a fascist.

01:17:21.880 And so, therefore,

01:17:22.660 and so he thinks

01:17:23.560 his best way

01:17:24.340 to make inroads

01:17:25.080 is by attacking

01:17:25.760 this extremely popular

01:17:26.940 vice president.

01:17:29.040 But that said,

01:17:30.140 we have gone through

01:17:31.680 quite a bit

01:17:32.220 and there are a lot

01:17:33.540 of chats,

01:17:34.340 which thank you everybody

01:17:35.320 for sending in super chats,

01:17:37.140 but we have quite a bit

01:17:37.900 to get through.

01:17:38.480 So is there anything

01:17:39.300 you guys want to touch on

01:17:41.600 before we get started

01:17:42.960 with the questions

01:17:43.440 of the people?

01:17:44.800 Yes, very quickly.

01:17:46.260 James Lindsay had this tweet,

01:17:47.660 we don't need to pull it up,

01:17:48.640 where he basically

01:17:49.620 just gave a quote,

01:17:51.140 which this is a tactic

01:17:52.340 of his quite often.

01:17:53.740 He gave a quote

01:17:54.440 of a definition

01:17:55.260 of the word nation

01:17:57.280 and then he said,

01:17:58.480 ah, but those came

01:17:59.140 from Stalin.

01:18:00.500 Stalin was tasked

01:18:01.420 with finding out

01:18:02.040 how nations would work

01:18:03.020 within a Marxist dictatorship.

01:18:05.640 And it was interesting

01:18:07.000 for two reasons.

01:18:07.820 Number one,

01:18:08.300 the quote that Lindsay pulled

01:18:09.620 about Stalin's definition

01:18:11.100 had nothing to do

01:18:13.440 with race.

01:18:13.940 In fact,

01:18:14.260 it specifically avoided

01:18:15.380 heritage, race,

01:18:16.660 lineage, genetics,

01:18:17.720 whatever you want

01:18:18.440 to talk about

01:18:19.100 that's the scary thing.

01:18:22.120 Stalin's quote

01:18:22.760 deliberately avoided it.

01:18:24.200 He focused on geography

01:18:25.680 and language

01:18:26.340 and shared customs

01:18:28.100 and laws and whatnot.

01:18:30.000 Secondly,

01:18:31.120 this is very clearly

01:18:32.540 not Stalin writing

01:18:34.460 because Stalin did not care

01:18:35.880 about these nations

01:18:38.340 in that way.

01:18:39.920 It would not shock me

01:18:41.180 if James Lindsay

01:18:41.940 lacked the reading comprehension

01:18:43.760 to understand

01:18:44.380 that Stalin probably

01:18:45.320 took the definition

01:18:46.400 from somewhere else

01:18:47.440 and just worked with it

01:18:48.580 because that's what

01:18:49.260 most people at the time

01:18:50.280 understood with nations.

01:18:51.900 James Lindsay,

01:18:52.480 by the way,

01:18:53.360 is supposedly an academic

01:18:54.720 who knows more

01:18:55.920 about academic concepts

01:18:57.380 than you.

01:18:58.720 But he wants you

01:18:59.940 to know that he's gotcha

01:19:01.080 if he comes across

01:19:02.380 a quote by Stalin

01:19:03.380 or Hitler

01:19:03.840 that says roughly

01:19:05.160 the same things

01:19:05.820 that you do

01:19:06.340 no matter what

01:19:07.000 the conversation is.

01:19:08.260 And in fact,

01:19:08.700 it doesn't even matter

01:19:09.520 if it's Stalin

01:19:10.560 or Hitler saying it.

01:19:11.460 So long as your line

01:19:12.780 of rhetoric

01:19:13.280 is the same rhetoric

01:19:14.380 that they've used

01:19:15.200 at any point

01:19:15.780 in their career,

01:19:16.380 you're basically them

01:19:17.240 as well.

01:19:18.260 I don't know

01:19:19.260 why anyone continues

01:19:20.260 to humor him

01:19:21.020 with any attention

01:19:23.180 whatsoever

01:19:23.720 if not to just

01:19:24.520 mercilessly mock him.

01:19:26.820 Yeah,

01:19:27.260 the many dangers

01:19:27.960 of lolcaoism

01:19:29.320 and that's for sure.

01:19:30.440 And I mean,

01:19:30.640 even though Stalin's

01:19:31.480 policies of,

01:19:32.580 you know,

01:19:32.940 basically using demographics

01:19:34.500 to ensure imperial territory

01:19:36.640 in the Soviet satellite states,

01:19:38.040 I mean,

01:19:38.180 one can look at the history

01:19:38.920 of Kazakhstan

01:19:39.380 if they're really interested.

01:19:40.900 I really,

01:19:41.340 the only thing to add here,

01:19:42.720 Oren,

01:19:42.920 before we get to the questions

01:19:43.740 of the people

01:19:44.260 is that,

01:19:45.520 again,

01:19:46.720 we talk about coastal elites

01:19:48.080 and how out of touch

01:19:49.180 they are

01:19:49.620 and how out of touch

01:19:50.360 they are with America.

01:19:51.100 I find it funny

01:19:52.360 that before he decided

01:19:53.740 to do another rug pull

01:19:54.940 on a meme coin

01:19:55.780 by changing his Twitter handle

01:19:57.420 like it's 2016

01:19:58.320 about something

01:19:59.000 with regards to Keck

01:20:00.000 that,

01:20:00.900 you know,

01:20:01.240 he had said

01:20:01.760 that the people

01:20:02.180 had voted

01:20:02.540 for major government reform.

01:20:04.180 Well,

01:20:04.480 the people had voted on

01:20:05.440 for a reduction

01:20:06.040 in immigration

01:20:06.660 legal and illegal

01:20:07.820 and the definitions

01:20:09.120 that,

01:20:09.680 you know,

01:20:09.960 are about a nation

01:20:10.920 or what even America's

01:20:12.000 first immigration laws were

01:20:13.320 show that America

01:20:14.700 was not founded

01:20:15.380 on just some set of principles.

01:20:16.540 It's not an idea.

01:20:17.480 It's not a place

01:20:17.940 for us to bring in

01:20:19.100 millions of people

01:20:19.800 to come into.

01:20:20.460 No,

01:20:21.020 it has been

01:20:21.480 a historical nation.

01:20:22.640 It has been

01:20:22.880 about a people.

01:20:23.780 It has been

01:20:24.160 about a people

01:20:24.680 that will come here

01:20:25.620 and endure the frontier

01:20:26.700 to become an American.

01:20:28.420 Whatever that may be

01:20:29.340 in the 21st century

01:20:30.320 remains to be seen,

01:20:31.400 but clearly

01:20:31.800 there is nothing

01:20:33.080 that is the equivalent

01:20:33.860 of the frontier

01:20:34.480 as the great Americanizer

01:20:36.000 with Silicon Valley

01:20:37.400 and our current problems

01:20:38.380 as it is.

01:20:39.340 And for them

01:20:39.720 to finally realize

01:20:41.040 that someone's going

01:20:41.680 to tell them no

01:20:42.380 is a good thing

01:20:43.160 because these guys

01:20:44.620 have lived

01:20:45.080 in their ivory towers

01:20:46.420 made of silicon

01:20:47.120 for far too long.

01:20:48.200 And I think

01:20:48.520 that it's time

01:20:49.080 that they,

01:20:49.560 along with numerous

01:20:50.660 others,

01:20:51.100 realize that there

01:20:51.780 is far more

01:20:52.320 to this country

01:20:52.960 than just for them

01:20:53.820 to live off

01:20:54.500 of entitlements

01:20:55.200 and complain

01:20:56.220 when the people

01:20:56.920 who built this country

01:20:57.800 say enough of that.

01:20:59.040 Yeah, again,

01:21:01.620 you know,

01:21:02.600 Elon Musk loves saying

01:21:04.080 Vox Populi,

01:21:05.140 Vox Dei, right?

01:21:06.200 The voice of the people

01:21:07.080 is the voice of God.

01:21:08.000 Well, the voice of the people

01:21:08.800 have told you to shut up.

01:21:10.740 They've told you you're wrong.

01:21:12.260 It's time for you to learn.

01:21:13.420 Again,

01:21:14.220 it's good to have

01:21:15.160 these conversations.

01:21:16.460 I would have given Elon

01:21:17.340 a lot of credit

01:21:17.920 for these conversations,

01:21:18.880 except it seems like

01:21:20.160 he actually did censor people

01:21:21.460 and intends to shift

01:21:22.700 the algorithm

01:21:23.180 to censor people over this,

01:21:24.380 which is a really bad sign

01:21:26.020 from Elon.

01:21:26.900 But on top of this,

01:21:28.560 the one thing

01:21:29.580 that is a blessing

01:21:30.340 that I think we've kind of

01:21:31.120 all brought up here

01:21:32.040 is this does put the issue

01:21:33.460 front of mind for people.

01:21:35.020 People who didn't know

01:21:36.300 anything about the H-1B

01:21:37.640 are suddenly going

01:21:38.840 through these databases,

01:21:40.140 seeing who actually,

01:21:41.540 what the actual jobs are

01:21:42.780 that get put in there,

01:21:43.720 what actually gets hired for,

01:21:45.440 recognizing that

01:21:46.220 this is not rocket science,

01:21:48.080 except in the few cases

01:21:50.140 where it is actually

01:21:50.980 for SpaceX.

01:21:52.020 But for the most part,

01:21:52.820 these people are not,

01:21:54.520 you know,

01:21:54.640 they're entry-level accountants.

01:21:56.080 It's that kind of stuff,

01:21:57.440 the things that Americans

01:21:58.340 would gladly do,

01:21:59.840 but that these corporations

01:22:01.920 can simply pay someone

01:22:03.400 from a foreign country

01:22:04.380 less to do.

01:22:05.400 And that's why

01:22:06.320 they're being brought in.

01:22:07.380 It also means that

01:22:08.320 this issue is going

01:22:08.860 to be front of mind

01:22:09.960 for everyone going in

01:22:11.640 to Trump's first hundred days.

01:22:13.980 The first hundred days

01:22:14.580 are famously

01:22:15.140 a very important period.

01:22:17.500 A lot of things get done then.

01:22:19.160 Immigration was already

01:22:20.200 in the front of many people's minds,

01:22:22.140 but it was illegal immigration.

01:22:23.640 It was mainly the deportations

01:22:25.880 and the border.

01:22:26.960 But now legal immigration

01:22:28.280 is going to be front of mind

01:22:29.180 and it's going to be hard

01:22:29.980 for Elon or anyone else

01:22:31.340 to try to sneak in

01:22:32.380 any of these expansions

01:22:34.120 into legal immigration

01:22:35.340 because this is all up front.

01:22:37.360 So I think ultimately

01:22:38.320 this is good.

01:22:40.120 Again,

01:22:40.320 it's nothing that we didn't know

01:22:41.540 was coming.

01:22:42.180 It's a battle that we knew

01:22:43.060 was going to happen.

01:22:44.280 Nobody who is at all serious

01:22:46.120 is surprised that this is

01:22:47.440 where this discussion went.

01:22:49.620 And ultimately,

01:22:50.180 I think this discussion

01:22:50.940 is positive

01:22:51.520 because it lets people know

01:22:52.620 what's going on.

01:22:53.960 It makes them aware

01:22:54.840 of the situation

01:22:55.520 and it makes it salient

01:22:57.040 for people

01:22:57.540 when they have that moment

01:22:59.480 with what do we focus on?

01:23:00.760 What should we be doing?

01:23:02.100 What should be something

01:23:02.820 that we are paying attention to?

01:23:04.480 This all stays front of mind.

01:23:06.480 Before we go to the questions

01:23:07.620 of people, guys,

01:23:08.580 I want to let you know

01:23:09.420 the total state

01:23:10.480 is finally out on audiobook.

01:23:12.480 So if you are one

01:23:13.700 of the hundreds of people

01:23:14.680 who said,

01:23:15.300 Oren, I really want to read your book,

01:23:16.780 but I just don't have time.

01:23:18.200 I listen to books

01:23:19.000 when I'm working out

01:23:19.740 or mowing the grass

01:23:20.580 or driving

01:23:21.180 or, you know, whatever.

01:23:22.900 And so I always listen.

01:23:25.360 I don't get a physical copy.

01:23:26.460 I've got great news.

01:23:27.340 It is finally out.

01:23:28.340 It came out yesterday.

01:23:29.460 So if you want to pick up

01:23:30.580 your copy on audiobook,

01:23:32.420 you can do that now.

01:23:34.620 Ryan, can you let people know

01:23:36.200 where to find your stuff

01:23:37.360 before we move on?

01:23:38.560 Yes, you can find

01:23:39.540 my YouTube channel

01:23:40.440 here on YouTube,

01:23:41.780 which is just under my name,

01:23:43.800 Ryan Turnipseed.

01:23:45.140 You can find me on Twitter

01:23:46.120 at Turnip Merchant.

01:23:47.340 And you can also find

01:23:48.920 a lot of my writings

01:23:49.820 and the writings

01:23:50.540 of other very talented

01:23:52.160 and great Americans,

01:23:53.700 perhaps the same people

01:23:54.800 who have been closed out

01:23:55.860 of our workforce

01:23:56.940 and education systems,

01:23:58.780 over at the Old Glory Club,

01:24:00.780 which is an organization

01:24:03.020 based around helping Americans,

01:24:06.660 specifically American men,

01:24:07.960 as a brotherhood.

01:24:09.080 We care deeply about

01:24:10.720 American culture and heritage.

01:24:12.540 You can go read about it

01:24:13.900 on the substack,

01:24:15.340 the Old Glory Club.

01:24:16.220 All right.

01:24:18.160 And Prudentialist,

01:24:19.340 where should people be

01:24:20.080 looking for your work?

01:24:21.760 Oh, well, you can find me

01:24:22.720 on Twitter at Mr. Prudentialist.

01:24:24.760 You can find me

01:24:25.220 on Substack YouTube.

01:24:26.220 Just look for the lovely amphibian

01:24:27.540 that you see on screen

01:24:28.560 or, you know,

01:24:29.460 wherever you tend

01:24:30.680 to find my works online.

01:24:32.840 I would just recommend,

01:24:34.280 of course,

01:24:34.880 to check out a conversation

01:24:36.000 Ryan and I had on my channel.

01:24:37.780 It was literally called

01:24:38.540 New Right Fights,

01:24:40.240 just sort of covering

01:24:41.080 the history of the infighting

01:24:43.400 between paleo-conservative

01:24:44.960 as well as neoconservative

01:24:46.520 movements in the United States

01:24:47.940 and throughout the 20th century

01:24:49.220 and what that means

01:24:50.420 for the Trump administration.

01:24:51.920 I think that that has,

01:24:52.940 discussion has aged very well

01:24:54.340 in the context of this discussion

01:24:55.900 over immigration.

01:24:57.240 And if you want to hear

01:24:57.960 my thoughts more

01:24:58.580 on the immigration question,

01:24:59.880 specifically over what's happened

01:25:01.240 with this H-1B showdown,

01:25:02.640 then head on over

01:25:03.960 to the Old Glory Club substack.

01:25:05.460 I literally just recently

01:25:06.800 wrote an article

01:25:07.400 on this issue called

01:25:09.380 Not an Economic Zone.

01:25:11.280 So if you're interested,

01:25:12.080 you can go read that there.

01:25:13.940 Excellent.

01:25:14.520 Yes.

01:25:14.720 Make sure to check out

01:25:15.620 both of these men's great work.

01:25:18.220 They absolutely deserve

01:25:19.340 more attention

01:25:20.380 for what they are doing.

01:25:21.920 Make sure that you are

01:25:22.960 helping out our friends

01:25:24.100 when possible.

01:25:25.780 All right.

01:25:26.400 Let's go over to

01:25:27.520 the questions of the people

01:25:28.620 real quick.

01:25:31.040 John Wesley Fadova

01:25:33.580 says,

01:25:35.260 did you make this lie?

01:25:38.140 Sorry, man.

01:25:38.940 I'm not really sure

01:25:39.720 what the reference is there.

01:25:41.660 He's referencing Elon Musk.

01:25:43.660 You know,

01:25:44.060 there was a fake screenshot

01:25:45.100 of one of the Musk.

01:25:47.020 It was a fake tweet

01:25:47.880 that people were passing around

01:25:49.000 and Musk would reply

01:25:50.560 with that exact line.

01:25:51.800 Did you make this lie?

01:25:53.220 Oh, OK.

01:25:53.880 All right.

01:25:54.420 Gotcha.

01:25:55.220 Yeah.

01:25:55.360 But he did actually respond

01:25:56.500 to the parody account, right?

01:25:57.840 That one was genuine.

01:25:59.360 Yes.

01:25:59.980 Yes.

01:26:00.520 Yeah.

01:26:00.740 I was like,

01:26:01.220 I know.

01:26:01.800 Yeah.

01:26:02.060 Like Ryan pointed out

01:26:02.760 it was a parody account,

01:26:03.560 but he did respond to it

01:26:04.920 as if it was saying

01:26:06.320 what he actually believed.

01:26:07.460 But yeah,

01:26:08.100 I think there was a

01:26:09.040 there was a screenshot

01:26:11.100 or two that was not genuine,

01:26:12.880 but wanted to make sure

01:26:13.560 we were only sharing

01:26:14.200 the right ones.

01:26:15.580 Let's see here.

01:26:17.820 Sorry,

01:26:18.700 I can't read anything today.

01:26:21.780 Bominay Igloo says,

01:26:23.340 how else are you going

01:26:24.200 to send money to Israel?

01:26:25.580 Well,

01:26:25.820 as always,

01:26:26.900 the United States

01:26:27.420 should not be involved

01:26:28.340 in any foreign aid,

01:26:30.440 Israel included.

01:26:32.120 Let's see here.

01:26:33.800 Templar says,

01:26:34.620 Happy New Year's honeymoon

01:26:37.060 may be over

01:26:38.140 before it began.

01:26:39.880 But remember,

01:26:40.440 the next four years

01:26:41.280 were never more

01:26:42.080 than a period to build.

01:26:43.620 Yeah,

01:26:43.820 that's exactly right,

01:26:44.740 man.

01:26:44.900 Once again,

01:26:45.820 I know there are,

01:26:47.440 you know,

01:26:47.740 there are people out there

01:26:48.440 being like,

01:26:48.820 ha ha,

01:26:49.320 we told you Trump,

01:26:50.480 Elon,

01:26:51.360 it's,

01:26:51.660 you know,

01:26:51.860 they're not going to be

01:26:53.000 everything exactly

01:26:54.100 what you want.

01:26:54.640 It's like,

01:26:54.920 yeah,

01:26:55.040 man,

01:26:55.260 we always knew that.

01:26:57.000 As Prudential has pointed out,

01:26:59.540 maybe things swung

01:27:00.660 into action a little earlier.

01:27:01.840 I didn't expect them

01:27:02.460 to breach this on Christmas,

01:27:03.700 but hey,

01:27:04.620 who are Americans

01:27:05.420 if not people

01:27:05.960 who fight a war

01:27:06.520 on Christmas,

01:27:07.140 right?

01:27:07.440 So nothing new there.

01:27:10.260 But ultimately,

01:27:11.180 this year,

01:27:12.540 this four-year period

01:27:13.220 is always breathing,

01:27:14.320 breathing your room.

01:27:15.260 You can't sit around

01:27:16.180 and expect Elon or Trump

01:27:17.440 or anyone else

01:27:17.980 to fix the United States

01:27:18.900 for you.

01:27:19.720 This is time for you

01:27:20.840 to build in your community,

01:27:22.320 strengthen those networks,

01:27:23.780 level yourself up,

01:27:24.960 your community up,

01:27:25.720 your family up.

01:27:27.040 Those are the things

01:27:27.860 that you have to work on.

01:27:29.180 If they do things

01:27:30.400 at the top that are great,

01:27:31.600 if they,

01:27:31.960 that's awesome.

01:27:33.040 If they just give us

01:27:34.040 the breathing room,

01:27:35.040 that's fine too.

01:27:36.140 We're going to get it done

01:27:36.820 either way.

01:27:40.660 Let's see here.

01:27:41.960 Happy New Year's

01:27:42.980 to all my fellow

01:27:43.660 Catholic cultists

01:27:44.560 of Eremon St. Michael.

01:27:46.680 Yes,

01:27:47.080 for those who are unfamiliar,

01:27:48.660 James Lindsay

01:27:49.640 has accused me

01:27:50.740 of being a Southern Baptist

01:27:52.040 agent of the Pope

01:27:53.720 interested in summoning

01:27:55.960 Zoroastrian demons

01:27:57.980 via St. Michael,

01:27:59.540 the Archangels.

01:28:00.300 So that's a thing,

01:28:02.940 I suppose.

01:28:04.080 Sounds fun.

01:28:05.300 You know,

01:28:05.800 good time.

01:28:06.340 We can meet on Tuesdays

01:28:07.240 and Thursdays.

01:28:09.600 Someone said,

01:28:10.260 this is like saying

01:28:10.940 that there's a Protestant

01:28:12.140 night,

01:28:12.880 you know,

01:28:13.380 a fervent Protestant

01:28:14.800 night of Columbus.

01:28:16.240 And I was like,

01:28:16.760 well,

01:28:16.860 that's actually literally

01:28:17.640 what he's accused me of.

01:28:19.200 Robert Winesfeld

01:28:20.020 says,

01:28:20.480 Happy New Year.

01:28:21.340 Thank you very much,

01:28:22.020 sir.

01:28:22.160 Happy New Year to you

01:28:23.140 and everyone hope

01:28:25.060 everyone is gearing up

01:28:25.940 for a great 2025.

01:28:29.100 Creepy Weirdo says,

01:28:30.040 Can the DR not fall

01:28:31.500 into nihilism for a second?

01:28:32.740 We know Elon

01:28:33.340 is in charge of immigration,

01:28:34.880 right?

01:28:35.760 Isn't the guy Trump

01:28:36.800 picked famously famous

01:28:38.300 for saying families

01:28:39.300 can be sent back together,

01:28:40.340 but take the BP.

01:28:42.520 Yeah,

01:28:42.800 again,

01:28:43.380 there are so many people

01:28:44.600 who just want to yell,

01:28:46.160 I'm right about Trump.

01:28:47.020 I was right about all this,

01:28:48.420 that they blow everything

01:28:49.820 out of the portion.

01:28:50.420 That's why like every throwaway

01:28:51.700 line that Trump has

01:28:52.720 suddenly gets thrown

01:28:53.520 into the media

01:28:54.120 is like,

01:28:54.720 he's betraying the base,

01:28:56.120 it's over.

01:28:56.600 Now,

01:28:56.800 again,

01:28:58.020 Trump is not perfect.

01:28:59.100 You should push back.

01:29:00.260 We are pushing back

01:29:00.980 against Elon Vivek right now,

01:29:02.920 but there is,

01:29:03.500 but be thoughtful.

01:29:04.740 You know,

01:29:04.920 use,

01:29:05.340 have some level of strategy,

01:29:07.260 okay?

01:29:07.540 Like,

01:29:08.220 think about things for a second.

01:29:09.560 Don't immediately become

01:29:10.760 blackpilled.

01:29:12.340 And he also follows up

01:29:13.520 with the blackpills

01:29:14.100 suppository,

01:29:15.880 by the way,

01:29:16.280 don't forget.

01:29:20.400 Let's see here.

01:29:21.400 Adam Keeney says,

01:29:22.980 changing your profile pic

01:29:23.940 to a Pepe is the new,

01:29:25.000 we just need to get back

01:29:26.100 to the Constitution.

01:29:27.460 Yeah,

01:29:27.740 he did,

01:29:28.280 he did do that,

01:29:28.980 though,

01:29:29.160 as,

01:29:29.400 as Prudentials pointed out,

01:29:32.340 that was also in backing

01:29:33.380 a meme coin.

01:29:34.580 The wonderful academic

01:29:36.720 James Limsey

01:29:37.480 has informed me,

01:29:38.300 though,

01:29:38.500 that the Constitution

01:29:39.540 is actually just a document

01:29:40.760 by Robin DiAngelo

01:29:41.920 because it was racist.

01:29:44.500 Yeah,

01:29:44.780 well,

01:29:45.200 the,

01:29:45.540 the,

01:29:45.760 uh,

01:29:47.140 what,

01:29:48.500 yeah,

01:29:48.660 what was he saying?

01:29:49.640 Like,

01:29:49.900 they got the language

01:29:50.900 from Robin DiAngelo.

01:29:52.760 It was the first

01:29:54.260 Immigration Act.

01:29:54.940 Immigration Act,

01:29:55.720 yes.

01:29:56.320 Yeah,

01:29:56.560 yeah,

01:29:56.860 yeah.

01:29:57.420 It looks like all

01:29:58.880 the founding fathers

01:29:59.520 in the 1790s

01:30:00.440 were just cribbing off

01:30:01.320 of Robin DiAngelo's book

01:30:02.660 had that time machine ready.

01:30:04.540 Truly day epic,

01:30:05.340 really.

01:30:06.020 It's ultimately,

01:30:07.160 yeah,

01:30:07.340 that's,

01:30:07.760 these guys were pretty amazing.

01:30:09.840 Uh,

01:30:10.480 TK says,

01:30:11.240 uh,

01:30:11.440 Operation Pooper Clip.

01:30:13.100 Gotta bring in the next

01:30:14.160 Von Braun.

01:30:16.740 Uh,

01:30:17.260 let's see here.

01:30:18.520 Uh,

01:30:18.760 Philosophical Thirstworm says,

01:30:20.620 I genuinely think

01:30:21.340 Elon's new handle

01:30:22.580 on Twitter is worth,

01:30:23.560 uh,

01:30:24.380 deporting him over that,

01:30:26.000 uh,

01:30:26.240 on that very point,

01:30:27.140 at least.

01:30:27.780 Gen X bothers me

01:30:28.680 as much as boomers

01:30:29.860 at this point.

01:30:31.400 Uh,

01:30:31.680 again,

01:30:32.160 you know,

01:30:32.440 I,

01:30:32.660 I don't,

01:30:33.020 I don't always find

01:30:33.800 the generational,

01:30:34.760 generational discourse

01:30:35.960 as hopeful.

01:30:36.720 I mean,

01:30:36.940 there are certainly

01:30:37.920 different aspects

01:30:39.080 to each generation.

01:30:40.260 I don't know if

01:30:41.160 Elon from South Africa

01:30:43.000 really represents

01:30:43.960 all of America's Gen X,

01:30:46.200 uh,

01:30:46.420 though he could,

01:30:47.040 I guess,

01:30:47.400 you know,

01:30:47.660 I'm not sure exactly

01:30:48.520 how one applies that.

01:30:51.840 Let's see here.

01:30:52.840 Uh,

01:30:53.000 Mint 20 says,

01:30:53.740 please redeem this visa,

01:30:56.260 SAR.

01:30:56.660 We can save your country,

01:30:58.040 SAR.

01:30:58.620 Uh,

01:30:58.820 don't you know

01:30:59.320 we are Aryans too,

01:31:00.720 SAR?

01:31:01.080 Yes,

01:31:01.440 indeed.

01:31:02.620 Uh,

01:31:02.900 let's see here.

01:31:04.820 Cody Browning says,

01:31:05.760 uh,

01:31:06.560 bang,

01:31:06.820 bang,

01:31:07.060 beaver gang,

01:31:07.740 build the dam 10 feet higher.

01:31:09.600 Uh,

01:31:09.900 yes.

01:31:10.200 Uh,

01:31:10.480 Jay Burden's,

01:31:11.220 uh,

01:31:11.800 you know,

01:31:12.080 beaver gang is with us

01:31:13.100 even when he is not.

01:31:14.860 let's see here.

01:31:19.760 Uh,

01:31:20.480 simpler says,

01:31:21.100 Dittman isn't Musk,

01:31:22.340 but same circles.

01:31:23.380 And I've seen in those,

01:31:25.100 uh,

01:31:25.520 I've been in those spaces.

01:31:26.820 They're trying to argue

01:31:28.480 immigration is unrelated to DEI

01:31:31.300 and honestly couldn't fathom

01:31:32.760 how they missed that inherent

01:31:34.260 contradiction.

01:31:34.780 Yeah.

01:31:35.320 I don't really know much about

01:31:36.400 Dittman except people are

01:31:37.340 always yelling that he is,

01:31:38.960 uh,

01:31:39.480 Elon Musk on,

01:31:40.600 on different things.

01:31:42.120 Uh,

01:31:42.580 ultimately,

01:31:43.520 uh,

01:31:45.640 uh,

01:31:46.860 ultimately,

01:31:47.860 uh,

01:31:48.880 he,

01:31:49.200 he's really ridiculous.

01:31:50.460 Like he was in a space,

01:31:51.480 just yelling at a bunch of

01:31:52.600 people,

01:31:53.000 calling them all racist.

01:31:54.740 Um,

01:31:55.500 I,

01:31:56.360 again,

01:31:56.480 I don't know much about him

01:31:57.460 in particular,

01:31:57.960 but if,

01:31:58.640 if he is reflective of Musk's,

01:32:00.540 uh,

01:32:01.240 kind of outlook,

01:32:01.980 which a lot of people says he is,

01:32:03.460 then that that's not great,

01:32:04.580 but I just don't know enough

01:32:06.220 to comment on that.

01:32:09.260 Uh,

01:32:09.660 life of Brian says,

01:32:10.460 uh,

01:32:10.700 tried most moist critical at a pet

01:32:12.680 as a pet name for wife.

01:32:14.240 Uh,

01:32:14.600 she cried,

01:32:15.480 uh,

01:32:16.200 German painter number one for

01:32:18.000 guy for me,

01:32:19.180 turnabout is fair play.

01:32:20.060 I don't understand that post at all,

01:32:21.440 but,

01:32:21.720 uh,

01:32:21.840 I guess,

01:32:22.200 thanks.

01:32:23.180 Sorry.

01:32:23.580 I don't,

01:32:24.300 I don't have the referencing Sam Hyde.

01:32:26.260 Oh,

01:32:26.720 well,

01:32:26.880 yeah.

01:32:27.060 Okay.

01:32:27.340 So yeah,

01:32:27.840 but I didn't get the joke.

01:32:29.100 And like,

01:32:29.620 uh,

01:32:29.780 by the way,

01:32:30.120 guys,

01:32:30.400 Sam Hyde did a absolutely amazing

01:32:32.520 rant on this.

01:32:33.360 Uh,

01:32:33.600 it's like 46 minutes long,

01:32:35.120 but you know,

01:32:36.060 put it on double speed or whatever.

01:32:37.240 It's,

01:32:37.680 it's quite good.

01:32:38.440 We were only hoping to try to

01:32:40.220 approach that level of,

01:32:41.560 uh,

01:32:41.880 of kind of brilliance after he has

01:32:44.280 better,

01:32:44.900 he had better insight in that,

01:32:46.340 uh,

01:32:46.680 in that,

01:32:47.100 uh,

01:32:47.560 you know,

01:32:47.880 comedy sketch than the vast

01:32:49.240 majority of the conservative

01:32:50.480 commentariat.

01:32:51.560 Uh,

01:32:51.960 so,

01:32:52.400 so,

01:32:52.660 yeah,

01:32:52.900 he did a great job,

01:32:53.680 but I did not get all the

01:32:54.520 references.

01:32:54.880 I'm not,

01:32:55.280 I'm not hip enough to the Sam

01:32:56.860 Hyde,

01:32:57.060 Sam Hyde lingo to,

01:32:58.100 to grasp every one of the

01:32:59.200 references there.

01:33:02.360 Uh,

01:33:02.980 Templar says again,

01:33:03.900 biggest contradiction in Musk is

01:33:05.500 that he's,

01:33:06.020 uh,

01:33:06.240 for full automation,

01:33:07.080 but hasn't explained what to do

01:33:08.240 with all the Hindus.

01:33:09.000 Once he replaces them with

01:33:10.160 robots,

01:33:10.640 are we supposed to clean up the

01:33:11.940 mess?

01:33:12.220 Yeah.

01:33:12.380 Again,

01:33:13.020 this is so infuriating,

01:33:14.320 right?

01:33:14.600 We have to bring in millions of

01:33:16.540 illegal immigrants.

01:33:17.360 Why?

01:33:17.700 Well,

01:33:17.880 they're going to do all these

01:33:18.940 jobs that we're planning to

01:33:20.000 automate away anyway.

01:33:21.400 Okay.

01:33:22.120 Well,

01:33:22.380 we got to bring in all these

01:33:23.780 kind of like,

01:33:24.280 uh,

01:33:24.760 middle-class immigrants from

01:33:26.060 Asia and they're going to do

01:33:27.200 all the jobs Americans want to

01:33:28.460 do.

01:33:28.740 Well,

01:33:28.940 we're trying to automate those

01:33:30.060 away anyway as well.

01:33:32.120 So we're just planning to

01:33:33.300 automate all the jobs for all

01:33:34.560 the immigrants we're bringing

01:33:35.400 in.

01:33:36.060 What is the end game here?

01:33:37.280 Like you bring in a bunch of

01:33:38.400 people to replace themselves

01:33:39.480 with AI and then you put them

01:33:40.660 on the dole.

01:33:41.600 You,

01:33:41.900 what they,

01:33:42.500 everyone just becomes like kind

01:33:44.000 of a worthless bum on a UBI.

01:33:46.820 Like it's an insane plan.

01:33:49.640 It doesn't seem to have a plan.

01:33:51.040 And this is the problem.

01:33:51.920 Like the tech guys are just

01:33:52.940 myopic.

01:33:53.580 Okay.

01:33:53.840 They have to be to get what

01:33:55.280 they want done.

01:33:56.000 Like they're brilliant in a

01:33:57.300 particular area,

01:33:58.040 but they cannot think about the

01:33:59.680 wider picture.

01:34:00.420 They just,

01:34:01.060 they just don't know.

01:34:02.000 And they don't care.

01:34:03.100 Uh,

01:34:03.500 and they have to be made to

01:34:04.520 care.

01:34:04.740 That's really all there is to

01:34:05.900 it.

01:34:06.060 We have to make them care about

01:34:08.160 Americans.

01:34:09.220 And if I can bring economics

01:34:10.840 into this for like 30 seconds,

01:34:12.400 the whole point of building new

01:34:14.640 things like machines,

01:34:15.720 uh,

01:34:16.240 these various different forms of

01:34:17.280 capital tools and whatnot,

01:34:18.500 so that we can do less and

01:34:20.300 focus on other things.

01:34:21.360 That is the whole economic

01:34:22.540 problem.

01:34:24.680 Aspiring for 80 hour work weeks

01:34:26.800 or whatever else is,

01:34:28.540 is completely insane.

01:34:30.020 We want to automate more,

01:34:31.120 but we also want to work you to

01:34:32.300 death more.

01:34:34.200 Yeah.

01:34:34.600 I mean,

01:34:34.860 it's just slave mentality,

01:34:36.220 right?

01:34:36.580 This is just a straight up slave

01:34:38.020 mentality.

01:34:38.620 Like the only purpose of

01:34:40.560 existence is to work every

01:34:43.060 waking moment of the day.

01:34:45.220 No,

01:34:45.760 actually that's not,

01:34:46.800 not only is that not the

01:34:47.880 purpose of life,

01:34:48.920 it's not even good for

01:34:49.740 productivity.

01:34:50.800 Like it has wildly diminishing

01:34:52.700 returns.

01:34:53.600 And we already talked about the

01:34:54.780 impact that has on creativity

01:34:56.080 and all of these other points of

01:34:57.220 excellence,

01:34:57.780 like,

01:34:58.200 sorry,

01:34:58.660 but memorizing computer code is

01:35:00.880 not the ultimate form of human

01:35:03.260 existence.

01:35:03.880 It does not create happy people.

01:35:06.000 There are a small percentage of

01:35:07.160 people who are good at it and

01:35:08.340 should do it.

01:35:09.000 And then we should all reap the

01:35:10.800 rewards,

01:35:11.200 including them of their work.

01:35:12.960 But the idea that this is the form

01:35:15.280 in which all human existence should

01:35:17.360 take,

01:35:17.780 and that ultimately that this would

01:35:18.900 even be economically advantageous is

01:35:21.940 just wrong on pretty much every

01:35:23.800 level.

01:35:27.160 Uh,

01:35:27.760 creepy weirdo says this is a necessary

01:35:29.060 step to America shifting to the

01:35:30.480 right.

01:35:30.840 That's not cope.

01:35:32.200 It's reality.

01:35:32.960 We have only just begun to move the

01:35:34.500 Overton window.

01:35:35.100 Again,

01:35:35.380 I agree.

01:35:35.820 The fact that this discussion is

01:35:37.720 happening instead of the discussion

01:35:38.980 on illegal immigration,

01:35:40.040 that discussion is over,

01:35:40.880 right?

01:35:41.800 Illegal immigration.

01:35:42.740 Nobody wants it.

01:35:44.020 Trump needs to take immediate action

01:35:45.320 on it.

01:35:46.380 If we don't get deportations in a

01:35:47.620 wall,

01:35:48.220 he should be held accountable.

01:35:49.740 A hundred percent.

01:35:50.880 That discussion is over.

01:35:52.220 The only,

01:35:52.940 the discussion now is how much legal

01:35:55.260 immigration should we have?

01:35:56.280 And that's still a huge issue.

01:35:57.720 But the fact that we've moved from

01:35:59.140 millions and millions of illegals

01:36:01.400 every year to how many hundreds of

01:36:03.680 thousands of people should be here

01:36:04.980 on,

01:36:05.480 you know,

01:36:06.080 work visas or student visas,

01:36:07.500 that is a massive shift.

01:36:09.140 And everyone should appreciate that.

01:36:10.560 Even if this bump in the road is

01:36:12.120 frustrating.

01:36:15.440 Uh,

01:36:16.000 rusty Shackelford says,

01:36:17.140 ask anyone from North Dallas area,

01:36:19.060 how great their new Indian neighbors

01:36:20.840 are.

01:36:21.300 Turns out zero cultural more overlap

01:36:23.320 causes little friction,

01:36:24.660 uh,

01:36:25.360 causes a little friction to put it

01:36:27.500 lightly,

01:36:27.840 but Hey line go up.

01:36:29.460 And again,

01:36:30.120 does the line even ultimately go up?

01:36:32.560 If this is such an amazing hack,

01:36:34.680 then why isn't China doing it?

01:36:36.600 If this is such an amazing way to

01:36:38.320 solve the problem and create a

01:36:39.860 booming tech sector,

01:36:40.940 why isn't Canada creating all these

01:36:43.060 amazing things?

01:36:44.520 Both of them,

01:36:45.360 you know,

01:36:45.600 China has the opportunity to do this.

01:36:47.720 Canada has already done it.

01:36:49.560 How's that working out for everybody?

01:36:52.060 Not great to my,

01:36:53.300 to my knowledge.

01:36:54.080 So I,

01:36:54.700 you know,

01:36:54.980 even the idea that you would throw

01:36:56.760 away the social fabric for economic

01:36:58.660 development seems wrong.

01:37:00.440 Like even that seems incorrect.

01:37:04.380 Uh,

01:37:04.940 Sean Shafer says funny how Vivek or

01:37:06.560 Elon never mentioned who benefits

01:37:08.360 from DEI in the past.

01:37:09.980 Maybe you should build up our native

01:37:11.180 population before,

01:37:12.300 uh,

01:37:13.020 picking up foreign dregs again.

01:37:15.640 They never referenced this.

01:37:17.160 They never take the time to say,

01:37:19.260 actually there have been a large

01:37:21.040 number of people who are talented,

01:37:22.780 even though we've spent the last

01:37:24.260 decade documenting every one of the

01:37:26.740 ways in which these people have been

01:37:28.060 held back.

01:37:28.640 We're not even going to acknowledge

01:37:30.060 that many people have been,

01:37:32.160 you know,

01:37:32.620 elevated.

01:37:33.200 Let's be honest,

01:37:34.140 right?

01:37:34.360 A lot of the reasons you can hire

01:37:35.960 Indians to do this work is they

01:37:38.320 didn't qualify as white.

01:37:39.580 So they didn't get hit by the DI

01:37:41.300 screen.

01:37:41.960 They could get a relevant amount of

01:37:43.380 work done,

01:37:43.880 a relevant IQ.

01:37:44.620 They could do a good job.

01:37:46.700 And they didn't get hit by the

01:37:47.900 screen that usually gets white males,

01:37:49.860 right?

01:37:50.120 Like this was the reason that in many

01:37:52.760 cases they were brought in to do

01:37:54.160 these jobs.

01:37:54.880 They are already,

01:37:56.020 as you point out there,

01:37:56.900 Sean benefiting from that DEI and

01:37:59.700 pretending that's just not a thing

01:38:00.880 and never mentioning.

01:38:01.740 It was just insane.

01:38:03.000 It's so condescending.

01:38:06.500 You guys feel free to jump in

01:38:07.640 anytime.

01:38:07.980 You don't have to,

01:38:08.440 but I've just let you know,

01:38:09.620 I'm not trying to talk over you.

01:38:10.620 I have nothing more to add.

01:38:11.840 Yeah,

01:38:12.120 I really don't either.

01:38:13.260 I got to get going.

01:38:14.120 No problem.

01:38:15.280 If you guys got to beat feet,

01:38:16.280 no problem.

01:38:16.920 I know this went long.

01:38:17.740 Like I said,

01:38:18.280 I'm just working my way through the

01:38:19.440 super chats here.

01:38:20.620 Tim Miller says,

01:38:23.720 Trump has more H-1B than Obama,

01:38:27.380 by the way.

01:38:28.540 Again,

01:38:28.980 I don't know the total numbers on

01:38:31.140 that.

01:38:31.520 I do know that in 2016,

01:38:33.440 Trump announced from the stage that

01:38:35.060 he thought the H-1B was a bad policy

01:38:37.720 that he knew that he personally had

01:38:39.700 used it in his,

01:38:41.300 in his own work because he had to do

01:38:44.000 that to stay competitive.

01:38:45.180 But ultimately it was a problem and it

01:38:47.320 was something he wanted to see fixed.

01:38:48.680 We've gotten mixed messages on Trump

01:38:50.740 kind of all over the place on this

01:38:51.980 from owl.

01:38:52.880 We need to restrict legal immigration

01:38:54.540 to owl staple a diploma to every guy

01:38:57.560 who gets or a green card to every guy

01:38:59.340 who gets a diploma.

01:39:00.980 It's Trump.

01:39:01.820 I mean,

01:39:02.220 ultimately I hope that he does settle

01:39:04.100 down and recognize what people

01:39:05.720 actually want,

01:39:06.580 what his base actually wants.

01:39:07.860 It's extremely important that he

01:39:09.420 listens to them on this issue.

01:39:10.860 That's the reason he was given the

01:39:11.820 mandate.

01:39:12.360 But as Trump is often the case,

01:39:14.960 he kind of wavers around on this.

01:39:16.600 I hope he sticks to his prior

01:39:18.860 commitments to saying HB-1 is bad

01:39:21.000 for the country.

01:39:22.320 Am I incorrect in remembering that

01:39:23.700 he basically eliminated the program

01:39:25.340 during his last term?

01:39:26.940 I'm trying to remember exactly what

01:39:28.700 the numbers are.

01:39:29.220 I don't feel like there was actually

01:39:30.920 an increase,

01:39:31.740 but I don't have it on hand here.

01:39:33.700 So if you want to Google it while

01:39:35.380 we're going through this,

01:39:36.300 we can give a better understanding.

01:39:39.000 I just don't,

01:39:39.520 I didn't have that fact right in front

01:39:41.020 of me.

01:39:42.040 Don't want to,

01:39:42.800 don't want to promise it when I

01:39:43.780 don't know.

01:39:44.180 So let's see here.

01:39:46.940 Capitalismo says it's factually

01:39:48.360 incorrect that American education

01:39:49.600 is bad when compared to the same

01:39:51.580 ethnic populations in other countries.

01:39:53.360 U.S. students perform,

01:39:54.420 outperform consistently.

01:39:56.320 I will agree with you that the

01:39:58.440 students in the United States might

01:39:59.560 outperform in particular comparisons.

01:40:02.480 But again,

01:40:03.380 that widely depends on who we're

01:40:04.980 comparing them against because that's

01:40:06.740 definitely not universally true.

01:40:08.540 But American education is bad.

01:40:10.400 Sorry,

01:40:10.720 I've been in American education.

01:40:12.000 I've taught in public schools.

01:40:13.480 It is bad.

01:40:14.080 It is very bad.

01:40:14.820 If American students are winning,

01:40:16.860 it's in spite of that education,

01:40:18.420 not because of it.

01:40:21.340 Whenever you find that.

01:40:22.520 If I just,

01:40:23.020 if I just search,

01:40:23.840 I get a lot of very old articles

01:40:25.300 from 2020 of the journalist class

01:40:27.860 freaking out that Trump basically

01:40:29.480 suspended them.

01:40:30.360 But I think it was under the guise of

01:40:32.220 other things happening,

01:40:33.400 which to be fair,

01:40:34.700 I don't care about.

01:40:36.000 So long as it's gone.

01:40:37.960 Yeah.

01:40:38.320 Again,

01:40:38.680 it's one of those scenarios where,

01:40:40.320 you know,

01:40:40.580 if you find harder numbers,

01:40:41.740 that's great.

01:40:42.420 But it's one of the scenarios where

01:40:43.520 often any reduction or,

01:40:45.500 you know,

01:40:45.660 in any,

01:40:46.180 any kind of knock on effects that

01:40:47.700 ended up reducing that would be

01:40:49.400 something the journalists would

01:40:50.380 scream about anyway.

01:40:51.080 Right.

01:40:51.520 So that's that they're,

01:40:52.560 they're going to be super angry

01:40:53.620 about it no matter what.

01:40:55.140 Right.

01:40:55.640 So I found the canary chirping

01:40:57.260 that it was happening.

01:40:58.740 Right.

01:41:00.000 Adam Kinney said,

01:41:00.960 quote,

01:41:01.320 80 hours,

01:41:02.200 work wheat,

01:41:03.140 quote.

01:41:03.960 Yeah,

01:41:04.120 that's a good point too.

01:41:05.520 As Sam Hyde pointed out in his

01:41:07.540 excellent rant,

01:41:08.420 nobody works 80 hours.

01:41:09.540 That's just not true.

01:41:10.600 And don't get me wrong.

01:41:11.500 Like people work a lot.

01:41:12.520 I work a lot.

01:41:13.940 But I tend to work like through my

01:41:16.180 day.

01:41:16.580 Like I,

01:41:17.140 like I tend,

01:41:18.240 I tend to read a lot of things

01:41:19.660 for the show,

01:41:20.540 even when I'm not technically

01:41:22.000 like on the clock or in a normal

01:41:23.740 work day,

01:41:24.320 because that's just part of my

01:41:25.560 routine.

01:41:25.840 That's kind of how I got where I

01:41:27.160 am.

01:41:27.400 Right.

01:41:27.880 So I'm working off and on,

01:41:29.340 but that means I also leave time

01:41:30.720 for family.

01:41:31.260 I also leave time for friends.

01:41:33.360 I also leave time for church,

01:41:35.100 these kinds of things.

01:41:35.720 Like it's not just that all the

01:41:37.700 time,

01:41:38.000 though I am often working in times

01:41:39.920 that are strange.

01:41:40.920 I certainly,

01:41:41.420 if I logged every minute I was

01:41:42.720 doing something related to my

01:41:44.480 job,

01:41:44.880 it would be probably close to,

01:41:47.140 you know,

01:41:47.380 you know,

01:41:48.100 probably not an 80 hour week,

01:41:49.280 but it would,

01:41:49.580 it would be much over the,

01:41:50.860 you know,

01:41:51.300 40,

01:41:51.600 50 hour week that most people are

01:41:53.740 supposed to work in,

01:41:54.720 in kind of the normal environment.

01:41:56.440 But yeah,

01:41:57.120 the idea that every person who is,

01:41:59.520 you know,

01:42:00.160 doing an 80 hour week is actually

01:42:02.240 working the entire time.

01:42:03.360 Instead of trying to look busy,

01:42:05.140 trying to fill time for much of it

01:42:07.340 so they can boast about how much

01:42:08.820 they've been at the office.

01:42:09.960 That's a misnomer.

01:42:13.060 Let's see.

01:42:14.060 Tim Miller says,

01:42:14.960 I'm not aware of anything good

01:42:16.220 about the PayPal mafia.

01:42:17.960 Again,

01:42:18.320 for people who don't know about

01:42:19.280 that verbiage,

01:42:20.080 that's kind of the collection of

01:42:21.140 Musk and Teal and Sachs and

01:42:23.340 Vivek and a lot of these guys

01:42:25.300 who will kind of attach to this

01:42:27.640 larger sphere of kind of tech

01:42:30.060 billionaires.

01:42:31.340 Again,

01:42:32.040 the fact that Trump is elected at all

01:42:34.220 is probably not in small part

01:42:36.220 to the fact that Elon

01:42:37.880 freed up speech,

01:42:39.080 at least for time,

01:42:39.980 on Twitter

01:42:41.020 and that he gave a large amount

01:42:43.380 of money to Trump.

01:42:44.400 I don't think it can really be

01:42:46.080 undersold,

01:42:47.080 the impact he had

01:42:48.080 in that,

01:42:48.940 you know,

01:42:49.600 in that election.

01:42:50.660 Would Trump have won anyway

01:42:51.820 just due to his momentum

01:42:52.920 and the fact that the American

01:42:53.740 people were sad

01:42:54.820 and done with Kamala Harris

01:42:56.280 and frustrated with everything

01:42:57.840 the Democrats have been doing.

01:42:59.480 Entirely possible,

01:43:00.560 but I really don't want to

01:43:01.680 discount their influence here.

01:43:04.160 That doesn't mean they get

01:43:04.740 a free pass on stuff like this.

01:43:06.000 We're doing an entire stream

01:43:06.940 explaining why they're very wrong

01:43:08.580 and they have to understand

01:43:09.720 why they're very wrong.

01:43:10.980 But I also don't want to just

01:43:12.260 make this a one-sided thing

01:43:13.180 where like,

01:43:13.560 oh,

01:43:13.740 well,

01:43:13.860 they've never done anything positive.

01:43:18.340 Tim says,

01:43:19.000 again,

01:43:19.080 this is purely cynical

01:43:20.020 on Musk's part.

01:43:20.960 He worships money

01:43:21.600 and saw an opportunity.

01:43:22.940 He knows he's lying

01:43:23.640 through his teeth.

01:43:24.600 He wants cheap labor,

01:43:25.800 full stop.

01:43:26.380 Again,

01:43:26.660 I'm not going to disagree

01:43:27.540 with you necessarily on that,

01:43:29.180 though I will say,

01:43:30.280 as you know,

01:43:31.280 he is a thorough,

01:43:32.960 you know,

01:43:33.240 kind of wild autist.

01:43:35.140 Once he like says

01:43:36.180 something out loud,

01:43:36.960 especially a guy

01:43:37.500 who never hears

01:43:38.300 he's wrong probably

01:43:39.140 and expects to like

01:43:40.840 constantly get adulation

01:43:41.920 and hates it

01:43:42.460 when the crowd

01:43:43.000 disagrees with him,

01:43:44.580 I think he might have

01:43:45.500 just kind of flown off

01:43:46.420 the handle

01:43:46.820 and dug in deeper

01:43:47.860 than he probably should have here.

01:43:48.840 He has walked back

01:43:49.740 some of this.

01:43:50.580 He has said that,

01:43:51.540 yes,

01:43:51.740 we do ultimately need

01:43:52.700 to kind of raise

01:43:53.740 the ceiling on H1Bs

01:43:56.120 to make sure that it's,

01:43:57.080 or raise the floor rather,

01:43:58.320 to make sure

01:43:58.940 that it's not being abused.

01:44:01.220 It's not enough.

01:44:02.080 He needs to say more.

01:44:03.380 I don't think that it's okay

01:44:04.960 the way he spoke with people

01:44:06.640 and the way he disregarded

01:44:07.940 people's opinions,

01:44:08.680 but I'm not fully ready

01:44:10.880 to burn that bridge

01:44:11.600 in the way that some people are.

01:44:13.560 Yeah,

01:44:13.700 and this is also something

01:44:15.320 that especially people

01:44:17.360 on the dissident sphere

01:44:18.560 of things has to keep in mind.

01:44:20.140 If we are going to drive

01:44:21.220 the narrative,

01:44:21.760 we need to know

01:44:22.240 for what end.

01:44:23.440 Just by driving the narrative,

01:44:24.840 you aren't going to achieve

01:44:25.820 everything that you want

01:44:26.800 immediately.

01:44:27.480 You're going to have to

01:44:28.200 play around with coalitions.

01:44:29.440 You're going to have to

01:44:30.200 understand that,

01:44:31.400 you know,

01:44:31.640 maybe Elon can redeem himself.

01:44:34.300 It's very possible.

01:44:35.380 It would be very beneficial

01:44:36.220 to us if he was on side.

01:44:38.320 Just because he had

01:44:39.440 an absolutely terrible opinion

01:44:41.620 about immigration,

01:44:42.640 something that he's not

01:44:43.340 even in charge of,

01:44:44.480 doesn't mean that you just

01:44:45.340 have to throw him

01:44:46.440 to the wolves immediately.

01:44:48.500 Right.

01:44:50.760 Just a little bit

01:44:51.540 of discipline,

01:44:52.060 guys.

01:44:52.680 Just,

01:44:52.840 we don't,

01:44:53.520 remember,

01:44:54.620 speaking of Aristotle,

01:44:56.340 emotional continence

01:44:57.400 was one of his things,

01:44:59.520 right?

01:44:59.880 We get passionate,

01:45:00.880 I get passionate,

01:45:01.740 right?

01:45:02.240 It's okay

01:45:02.920 to be passionate moments,

01:45:04.480 but ultimately,

01:45:05.060 you should not be ruled

01:45:05.980 by those emotions.

01:45:06.740 You should be able

01:45:07.300 to make wise moves.

01:45:08.660 You should be able

01:45:08.960 to look into the future

01:45:09.980 and make a plan

01:45:11.280 and control yourself

01:45:12.820 in certain situations.

01:45:13.860 This is one place

01:45:15.680 to practice that

01:45:16.520 a little bit.

01:45:17.520 Elon didn't have it

01:45:18.340 and that's why

01:45:19.020 he's in trouble.

01:45:19.760 Don't make the same mistake.

01:45:21.700 JGJ says,

01:45:22.620 what about a hiring moratorium

01:45:24.060 on requiring college degrees

01:45:25.700 in tech fields

01:45:26.380 for those who stopped

01:45:27.200 going to school

01:45:27.860 after COVID restrictions?

01:45:29.840 Again,

01:45:30.320 I'm not sure

01:45:30.800 how you would impose

01:45:31.820 that on all

01:45:33.140 businesses.

01:45:35.280 I think ultimately

01:45:36.220 we need to move away

01:45:37.220 from the college degree system,

01:45:39.540 especially in tech fields

01:45:40.600 in which certifications

01:45:41.540 already exist

01:45:42.360 and you don't actually

01:45:43.440 need the degree system

01:45:44.740 in a lot of ways

01:45:45.540 because you have

01:45:46.900 all these independent

01:45:47.740 certifications people

01:45:48.540 can take without needing

01:45:49.320 to take a single

01:45:50.620 college course.

01:45:52.060 I really don't see

01:45:52.800 why anyone needs

01:45:53.720 a college degree

01:45:54.260 to work in a computer field

01:45:55.760 at this point,

01:45:56.420 a tech field,

01:45:57.200 when so many of these

01:45:58.460 things can just be done

01:45:59.540 through certification.

01:46:01.000 So I do think

01:46:01.460 we need alternatives,

01:46:02.160 but I'm not sure

01:46:03.160 how you could ban it

01:46:04.000 right away.

01:46:05.000 Right,

01:46:05.160 and this is yesterday.

01:46:06.480 The governor of Oklahoma

01:46:07.600 had a program

01:46:08.340 that he announced

01:46:08.940 where he really wanted

01:46:10.560 high school diplomas

01:46:11.860 to only be awarded

01:46:12.680 if students got accepted

01:46:13.860 into some university

01:46:15.160 or university equivalent

01:46:16.300 or joined the military.

01:46:18.460 And this is,

01:46:19.280 if it was to actually

01:46:20.760 go through,

01:46:21.140 and I don't think

01:46:21.580 it would ever,

01:46:23.080 all this is doing

01:46:24.640 is it's just subsidizing

01:46:25.680 the college system,

01:46:26.540 at least in this one state,

01:46:27.660 which has three-something

01:46:29.620 million people.

01:46:30.700 It's quite a lot.

01:46:32.600 The college system

01:46:33.660 is only being held up

01:46:35.000 by subsidy at this point.

01:46:36.260 If you took away

01:46:38.160 all legal benefits

01:46:39.900 that the college system

01:46:40.700 received,

01:46:41.200 be it money

01:46:41.760 or special preference

01:46:43.380 or whatever else

01:46:44.140 and all these other things,

01:46:46.260 the college system

01:46:47.080 would just collapse.

01:46:48.560 No one,

01:46:48.940 no one actually,

01:46:49.920 businessmen don't

01:46:51.200 attach value

01:46:52.440 to the college degrees

01:46:53.480 at this point anymore.

01:46:56.740 Matt Grenier says,

01:46:57.760 I find it really difficult

01:46:59.340 not to hate Musk

01:47:00.220 for his stance.

01:47:01.320 I don't want to hate him,

01:47:02.880 but it's an important issue.

01:47:03.900 So no matter how much

01:47:05.140 people on X

01:47:05.640 try to minimize the issue

01:47:06.520 and pretend it's not,

01:47:07.840 it's just a policy difference.

01:47:09.340 Again,

01:47:09.800 I'm with you

01:47:11.200 that Elon's response here

01:47:13.220 was really disrespectful.

01:47:16.400 I think that

01:47:17.240 if he had any level

01:47:18.920 of discipline on this issue,

01:47:20.280 if he wants to be a leader,

01:47:21.840 then he needs to be a leader,

01:47:23.840 right?

01:47:24.160 If,

01:47:24.520 again,

01:47:25.040 I'm just going to steal

01:47:26.060 from Sam Hyde here.

01:47:27.140 If you,

01:47:27.760 if you wanted to be shit,

01:47:29.200 if you just wanted to sit down

01:47:30.820 and shut up

01:47:31.600 and be a CEO,

01:47:33.200 you could do that.

01:47:34.760 Elon has the ability

01:47:35.800 to do that.

01:47:36.280 There are plenty of guys

01:47:37.040 who just sit

01:47:37.980 on tens of billions of dollars

01:47:39.660 and never say a word in public

01:47:41.400 and just make their money

01:47:42.800 and move on.

01:47:43.940 But Elon wants to be

01:47:45.680 in the fight.

01:47:47.120 He wants to be

01:47:48.020 in the Coliseum.

01:47:49.280 He wants to hear the crowd roar.

01:47:50.820 It's very obvious

01:47:52.220 whether that's a good trait

01:47:53.360 or a bad trait

01:47:54.180 ultimately about Elon

01:47:55.500 that that is who he is.

01:47:56.900 He wants to be a leader

01:47:58.640 that there's a,

01:47:59.700 there's a reason

01:48:00.420 he's in this position

01:48:01.600 and he's given himself

01:48:02.880 the public face

01:48:03.660 that he has.

01:48:04.940 If he's going to do that,

01:48:06.240 he has to learn

01:48:07.460 to listen and respect.

01:48:08.940 He has to learn.

01:48:10.260 If you want,

01:48:11.140 you want to be the king,

01:48:12.120 you want to be the,

01:48:12.660 the Yarvin King CEO.

01:48:14.740 Great.

01:48:15.180 The first thing a king

01:48:16.740 needs to learn to do

01:48:18.340 is be able to listen to

01:48:20.580 and assess

01:48:22.180 the well-being of his people.

01:48:23.640 That doesn't mean

01:48:23.920 you have to do everything

01:48:24.840 they say.

01:48:25.640 You're still a leader,

01:48:26.680 but you have to be able

01:48:28.380 to show concern.

01:48:29.400 You have to show compassion.

01:48:30.700 You have to show

01:48:31.720 that you care about

01:48:33.240 what these people care about.

01:48:34.400 If Elon had gone out

01:48:35.760 of his way

01:48:36.360 to say,

01:48:37.120 we are going to

01:48:38.400 guarantee deportations,

01:48:40.020 I'm going to,

01:48:40.300 I'm going to,

01:48:40.720 I'm going to make sure

01:48:41.460 that every single person

01:48:42.840 who opposes deportations

01:48:44.000 is primaried.

01:48:45.180 I am going to create

01:48:46.560 private firms

01:48:47.780 that will help

01:48:48.360 to facilitate this technology

01:48:50.540 that will make it easier

01:48:51.460 to make it happen.

01:48:52.520 I am going to push

01:48:53.480 to make sure

01:48:54.080 that the border is secure

01:48:55.480 immediately upon me entering.

01:48:57.440 I'm going to reform

01:48:58.520 the H-1B system

01:49:00.000 until it is not punishing

01:49:01.820 American workers.

01:49:03.400 And then you said,

01:49:04.480 and by the way, guys,

01:49:05.460 I need some more people

01:49:06.780 for my tech.

01:49:08.340 That would have been different,

01:49:09.740 right?

01:49:09.940 That was a,

01:49:10.440 that would be

01:49:10.680 a different conversation

01:49:11.720 because they would be,

01:49:13.120 I would have shown you,

01:49:14.180 hey, I care about you,

01:49:15.140 by the way,

01:49:15.580 I'm investing money.

01:49:17.160 I'm starting this program

01:49:18.280 to jumpstart

01:49:19.160 the American worker

01:49:20.460 and make sure

01:49:21.100 that they can do the jobs

01:49:22.140 I need them to do.

01:49:22.940 But while I wait

01:49:24.020 for that pipeline

01:49:24.780 to fill up,

01:49:25.800 I need X number of people

01:49:27.700 to make my SpaceX thing work.

01:49:30.740 That's a very different conversation,

01:49:32.500 but he didn't do that.

01:49:34.020 He just went directly

01:49:35.160 to attacking people

01:49:36.060 and insulting people.

01:49:37.400 That's a huge mistake.

01:49:40.060 Cherub Cow says,

01:49:41.060 Elon accidentally

01:49:42.200 speed running

01:49:42.840 through Dune's

01:49:44.380 20 Titans

01:49:46.160 Cymec dystopia

01:49:47.900 to the Butlerian Jihad.

01:49:50.240 Is he going to put

01:49:50.760 his brain in the jar?

01:49:51.840 For people who don't know,

01:49:52.820 this is the off-off

01:49:55.020 brand novels of Dune.

01:49:57.400 I'm such a Dune fanatic

01:49:58.700 that I have read

01:49:59.300 most of them,

01:50:00.000 even though they're

01:50:00.580 not great uniformly.

01:50:03.480 I am familiar

01:50:04.280 with the storyline

01:50:04.920 he's discussing.

01:50:06.780 But yes,

01:50:07.500 thank you,

01:50:07.880 Cherub Cow,

01:50:08.320 for that obscure Dune reference

01:50:09.780 that even people

01:50:10.760 who have seen both movies

01:50:11.800 will have no clue about.

01:50:14.740 Let's see here.

01:50:17.060 TadM123 says,

01:50:17.840 Hey guys,

01:50:18.760 from each of your perspective,

01:50:20.500 it's not an H-1B

01:50:21.920 or legal immigration.

01:50:23.340 How would we solve

01:50:24.200 the replacement crisis

01:50:25.120 in the short term?

01:50:26.940 Thanks.

01:50:27.320 I'm confused with that.

01:50:32.280 I mean,

01:50:32.680 I'm assuming he's talking

01:50:33.740 about fertility

01:50:34.540 replacement rate

01:50:36.140 and all of that,

01:50:36.740 which...

01:50:37.340 Without an H-1B?

01:50:38.620 I'm not sure how that is.

01:50:39.880 I think that's actually

01:50:40.500 causing the problem,

01:50:41.480 but go ahead.

01:50:42.380 Right.

01:50:43.120 Right,

01:50:43.360 and there's plenty

01:50:44.740 of evidence for that,

01:50:45.560 but I think the framing

01:50:46.440 here for the question

01:50:47.240 is itself flawed.

01:50:49.140 You don't solve

01:50:51.380 fertility rates

01:50:53.140 or replacement rates

01:50:54.000 among the people

01:50:54.680 by importing

01:50:55.540 a completely new people.

01:50:57.560 This is like saying,

01:50:58.520 how are we going to

01:50:59.640 repair something,

01:51:01.120 repair a piece of furniture?

01:51:02.640 Oh, I know,

01:51:03.200 we'll purchase new furniture

01:51:04.700 and just replace it.

01:51:05.660 You didn't repair

01:51:06.740 the furniture

01:51:07.340 that was already there.

01:51:09.340 Don't take that

01:51:10.480 explanation

01:51:11.660 to its logical conclusions.

01:51:13.320 I was just using that

01:51:14.240 to illustrate

01:51:14.840 what we're doing here.

01:51:16.400 You don't...

01:51:17.040 We aren't concerned

01:51:18.940 with the American

01:51:19.780 economic zone

01:51:20.820 reaching a certain

01:51:21.880 rate of fertility

01:51:23.580 so that it replaces itself.

01:51:25.220 What we are concerned

01:51:26.100 with is the actual

01:51:27.020 Americans,

01:51:27.880 the American nation,

01:51:29.600 reaching a replacement

01:51:31.120 rate so that they

01:51:32.060 can continue to thrive

01:51:33.280 throughout generations

01:51:34.380 like they have

01:51:35.020 for the last dozens.

01:51:37.200 This is the actual

01:51:38.460 question,

01:51:39.920 and in order to do that,

01:51:40.980 it seems like a lot

01:51:42.300 of the policies

01:51:42.860 from the last century

01:51:43.700 will have to be reversed.

01:51:46.000 Women should probably

01:51:47.300 not be going out

01:51:48.880 to work

01:51:49.320 and focusing on working.

01:51:51.880 Contraception

01:51:52.320 should be condemned

01:51:53.020 by the churches

01:51:53.660 once again,

01:51:54.580 and this isn't

01:51:55.240 a recent thing.

01:51:55.960 It's also not

01:51:56.500 a Roman Catholic thing

01:51:57.540 either.

01:51:58.300 All of the Protestant

01:51:59.140 churches strongly

01:52:01.600 condemned contraception

01:52:03.160 until about the 1950s.

01:52:05.020 Even the Anglicans

01:52:05.960 who were accused

01:52:07.100 of legalizing it,

01:52:08.960 if you will,

01:52:09.700 even they condemned it

01:52:10.940 for everyone

01:52:11.860 except the infertile

01:52:13.660 or people

01:52:14.720 for which fertility

01:52:15.920 would cause

01:52:16.440 some sort of

01:52:16.940 drastic health issue.

01:52:18.840 Even they kept

01:52:20.000 that position

01:52:20.520 from the 1930s

01:52:21.660 onwards.

01:52:22.760 If you actually

01:52:24.020 did solve

01:52:24.600 these two things,

01:52:25.420 I'm certain

01:52:26.120 that you would see

01:52:27.000 that the American nation

01:52:28.360 would have

01:52:29.560 larger families again,

01:52:31.080 and they would probably

01:52:32.000 be much happier

01:52:32.700 for it.

01:52:33.180 They would be

01:52:33.700 more invested

01:52:34.840 in everything

01:52:35.920 around them.

01:52:36.520 Yeah,

01:52:38.100 ultimately,

01:52:38.560 I don't know

01:52:39.060 if those genies

01:52:40.200 go back into bottles,

01:52:41.660 especially on the

01:52:43.420 contraception one,

01:52:44.440 but I will say this.

01:52:45.820 It certainly

01:52:46.500 doesn't get solved

01:52:47.540 by making sure

01:52:48.540 that people

01:52:49.880 who do

01:52:50.260 form families

01:52:51.040 or attempting

01:52:51.640 to form families

01:52:52.300 can't find jobs,

01:52:53.900 that they can't find

01:52:54.980 neighborhoods

01:52:55.320 in which their children

01:52:56.240 feel safe.

01:52:57.380 If you want people

01:52:58.420 to care about reproducing,

01:52:59.980 you have to give them

01:53:00.800 the future.

01:53:01.220 You have to give them

01:53:02.820 something that is

01:53:05.100 worth carrying

01:53:05.800 beyond themselves.

01:53:07.280 People have kids,

01:53:09.040 yes,

01:53:09.640 due to rhythms of life,

01:53:11.420 as you pointed out,

01:53:12.620 but they also have kids

01:53:13.540 because they want

01:53:14.600 to carry on

01:53:15.340 something about

01:53:15.980 the existence

01:53:16.480 they have now.

01:53:17.760 And if your entire

01:53:18.540 way to fix this

01:53:21.340 is basically

01:53:21.880 replace the existence

01:53:22.740 they have now

01:53:23.520 just to fill up

01:53:24.700 the raw numbers

01:53:25.620 of human beings

01:53:26.500 in the economic zone,

01:53:27.920 then as Ryan

01:53:28.640 kind of pointed out there,

01:53:30.340 you're missing

01:53:30.720 the point.

01:53:33.560 Michael Robertson

01:53:34.520 says,

01:53:34.840 it's funny that

01:53:35.460 the immigration question

01:53:36.420 abbreviates down

01:53:37.360 to the IQ,

01:53:39.280 which is also interesting

01:53:40.360 because Vivek

01:53:40.920 specifically said

01:53:41.660 that wasn't the problem.

01:53:43.220 It's a culture problem,

01:53:44.420 but all we need

01:53:45.020 is his culture,

01:53:45.680 I suppose.

01:53:49.180 Deitzel says,

01:53:50.300 writing my first

01:53:51.160 at Super Chat

01:53:54.340 just to say

01:53:54.860 that James Lizzie

01:53:55.560 must be banished

01:53:56.400 to the Three Shadows realm.

01:53:59.360 James,

01:54:00.840 I think,

01:54:01.240 has,

01:54:02.020 well,

01:54:02.360 I don't want to spend

01:54:03.020 a lot of time on that.

01:54:03.800 Let's just say

01:54:04.380 his Twitter feed

01:54:05.360 speaks for itself

01:54:06.120 at this point.

01:54:07.780 Life of Brian

01:54:08.620 says,

01:54:09.120 the tech lords

01:54:09.780 speedrunning

01:54:10.540 the neocon purges

01:54:11.680 of the 80s,

01:54:13.100 but are so politically

01:54:15.100 enough

01:54:15.560 that they link

01:54:16.220 Lindsay

01:54:16.660 to the guy

01:54:17.660 for the job.

01:54:20.760 Speedrunning

01:54:21.180 the neocon purges.

01:54:21.800 Yeah,

01:54:22.280 the fact that

01:54:22.860 they think

01:54:23.160 that he's going

01:54:23.640 to be like

01:54:23.980 the Buckley-ite

01:54:24.760 guy who kind

01:54:25.760 of runs

01:54:26.560 everybody out

01:54:27.220 of town

01:54:27.700 is pretty hilarious.

01:54:29.940 Actually,

01:54:30.280 I think they

01:54:30.840 don't think

01:54:31.380 that anymore.

01:54:32.500 Again,

01:54:33.000 I don't want

01:54:33.320 to spend

01:54:33.500 a lot of time

01:54:34.020 on this,

01:54:34.480 but some

01:54:35.080 prominent people

01:54:35.640 stepped in

01:54:36.300 and kind of

01:54:37.040 were trying

01:54:37.560 to put the

01:54:37.860 kibosh

01:54:38.380 on the

01:54:39.160 woke right stuff.

01:54:40.080 I think it's

01:54:40.560 pretty clear

01:54:41.200 even to a lot

01:54:42.340 of mainstream

01:54:42.820 people that

01:54:43.560 this has gone

01:54:44.100 too far

01:54:44.600 and it's just

01:54:45.140 making the people

01:54:46.840 who kind of

01:54:47.240 want to control

01:54:47.980 the conversation

01:54:48.600 look bad.

01:54:49.680 It's such a

01:54:50.280 terrible tactic

01:54:50.960 and so I

01:54:51.680 think

01:54:52.080 he's getting

01:54:54.920 the old

01:54:55.340 cane off the

01:54:56.000 stage.

01:54:56.560 Let's put it

01:54:56.960 that way,

01:54:57.280 I feel like.

01:54:58.840 Skeptical Panda

01:54:59.600 says,

01:55:00.040 I got here,

01:55:00.940 I just got here,

01:55:02.040 but happy new

01:55:02.620 year,

01:55:03.100 Oren and the

01:55:03.580 panel.

01:55:04.220 Guess we made

01:55:04.820 some good

01:55:05.200 progress in

01:55:05.940 2024 and I

01:55:07.420 think we'll

01:55:07.760 continue to win

01:55:08.580 or we'll be

01:55:09.220 winning in 2025.

01:55:10.380 Well,

01:55:10.500 thank you very

01:55:10.860 much,

01:55:11.140 man.

01:55:11.620 I appreciate

01:55:12.200 that.

01:55:13.000 A happy new

01:55:13.680 year to you

01:55:14.380 and to the

01:55:15.140 rest of the

01:55:15.500 audience.

01:55:16.560 Really great.

01:55:17.260 I appreciate

01:55:17.640 once again,

01:55:18.420 all you guys

01:55:19.040 kind of making

01:55:19.540 this possible.

01:55:20.240 We would

01:55:21.160 not be able

01:55:21.560 to do this

01:55:22.060 without you

01:55:22.700 and so

01:55:23.660 just hope

01:55:24.640 everybody

01:55:25.180 stays cautiously

01:55:27.720 optimistic but

01:55:28.860 stays optimistic.

01:55:30.240 It's about

01:55:31.120 once again,

01:55:32.760 bettering your

01:55:33.660 life,

01:55:34.120 bettering your

01:55:34.420 family's life,

01:55:35.260 bettering your

01:55:35.740 community's life.

01:55:37.340 The macro

01:55:37.720 tunes seem to

01:55:38.780 be in our

01:55:39.120 favor for the

01:55:39.840 moment and

01:55:40.500 that's awesome

01:55:41.200 and you should

01:55:41.720 use that momentum

01:55:42.500 to make good

01:55:43.460 things,

01:55:44.120 but don't use

01:55:45.460 that as an

01:55:45.860 excuse to sit

01:55:46.460 on your butt.

01:55:47.520 Use that new

01:55:48.080 year and make

01:55:49.100 good things.

01:55:50.820 Take the

01:55:51.420 white pill,

01:55:52.220 get stuff

01:55:52.640 done.

01:55:55.480 And Bayes

01:55:56.280 says,

01:55:56.820 in a way,

01:55:57.440 I respect

01:55:57.980 that Musk's

01:55:58.460 initial reaction

01:55:59.140 was to take

01:55:59.760 on all of

01:56:00.500 the internet,

01:56:01.300 already has

01:56:02.100 the left

01:56:02.860 mad at him.

01:56:04.300 Yeah,

01:56:04.780 fair enough.

01:56:05.700 Musk is no

01:56:07.240 shrinking violet,

01:56:08.040 right?

01:56:08.260 He didn't get

01:56:08.720 where he is

01:56:09.240 because he

01:56:10.220 listens to

01:56:10.800 everybody's

01:56:11.320 opinion.

01:56:11.760 He certainly

01:56:12.040 has his own.

01:56:12.800 He defends

01:56:13.180 it strongly,

01:56:13.740 but he's

01:56:15.560 not a

01:56:15.840 statesman,

01:56:16.920 you know,

01:56:17.520 and that's

01:56:18.360 just the

01:56:19.200 long and

01:56:19.660 the short

01:56:19.920 of it.

01:56:21.060 He's a

01:56:21.640 valuable asset,

01:56:22.580 but he is

01:56:23.640 not a

01:56:23.940 statesman,

01:56:24.480 and if he

01:56:25.100 wants to

01:56:25.560 stay in

01:56:25.920 the public

01:56:26.460 light and

01:56:26.860 have that

01:56:27.260 kind of

01:56:27.500 leadership

01:56:27.760 role that

01:56:28.220 he seems

01:56:28.580 to aspire

01:56:29.000 to,

01:56:29.360 he's going

01:56:29.880 to need

01:56:30.100 to build

01:56:30.360 those skills.

01:56:33.300 And then

01:56:33.920 Flame Tiger

01:56:34.360 says,

01:56:34.720 as a son

01:56:35.160 of two

01:56:35.420 Nigerian

01:56:35.900 immigrants,

01:56:36.680 I still

01:56:37.100 am against

01:56:38.420 mass

01:56:38.980 immigration.

01:56:40.180 Nations are

01:56:40.880 home for

01:56:41.900 a specific

01:56:42.380 people of

01:56:42.980 a specific

01:56:43.400 history,

01:56:43.820 culture,

01:56:44.540 and ancestry,

01:56:45.160 not a sports

01:56:45.620 team or an

01:56:46.280 economic zone.

01:56:47.020 Exactly.

01:56:47.820 Again,

01:56:48.800 even Hispanic

01:56:49.620 voters came

01:56:50.840 out strongly

01:56:51.540 in favor of

01:56:52.500 Trump,

01:56:53.260 or at least

01:56:53.820 we saw big

01:56:54.380 gains for

01:56:55.060 Trump in

01:56:55.820 those areas

01:56:56.220 because they

01:56:57.200 moved here

01:56:57.900 for a reason.

01:56:58.800 Now,

01:56:59.100 some of them

01:56:59.500 are going to

01:56:59.680 have to go

01:56:59.960 back because

01:57:00.400 they moved

01:57:00.660 here illegally,

01:57:01.560 but the

01:57:01.840 point is,

01:57:02.360 even the

01:57:02.740 people who

01:57:03.220 were here

01:57:03.940 wanted a

01:57:05.160 specific type

01:57:06.160 of America.

01:57:07.220 They saw

01:57:07.540 America as

01:57:08.080 a place with

01:57:08.660 a type of

01:57:09.580 culture that

01:57:10.380 they wanted

01:57:10.820 to be

01:57:11.120 involved in,

01:57:11.740 the ones

01:57:11.980 that do

01:57:12.300 actually want

01:57:12.900 to integrate,

01:57:13.760 that do

01:57:13.980 actually want

01:57:14.700 to be

01:57:15.160 involved and

01:57:15.820 become part

01:57:16.480 of this.

01:57:17.740 The assimilation

01:57:18.660 requires that

01:57:19.540 you actually

01:57:20.120 love the

01:57:20.920 people who

01:57:21.380 made the

01:57:21.900 country,

01:57:22.520 the culture

01:57:22.980 they created

01:57:23.720 to the degree

01:57:24.680 which that

01:57:25.320 can occur.

01:57:26.600 You can have

01:57:27.320 some people

01:57:28.140 join,

01:57:28.700 but if you

01:57:29.240 have mass

01:57:29.740 immigration,

01:57:30.160 you will never

01:57:30.980 get any

01:57:31.580 level of

01:57:32.020 assimilation

01:57:32.560 because you

01:57:33.240 will be

01:57:33.540 creating

01:57:34.020 diasporas

01:57:34.820 that just

01:57:35.520 combat each

01:57:36.280 other for

01:57:36.620 interest inside

01:57:37.540 the nation.

01:57:38.120 You will never

01:57:38.580 have that

01:57:39.420 moment of being

01:57:40.420 able to come

01:57:40.940 together because

01:57:41.540 you are

01:57:41.820 specifically

01:57:42.280 creating a

01:57:42.960 scenario where

01:57:43.720 people can

01:57:44.220 sit in little

01:57:45.060 communities,

01:57:45.800 speak the same

01:57:46.460 language that

01:57:47.040 they always

01:57:47.420 have, have

01:57:47.920 the same

01:57:48.220 culture they

01:57:48.620 always have,

01:57:49.520 hire each

01:57:50.440 other with a

01:57:51.020 bunch of

01:57:51.320 nepotism,

01:57:51.920 ethnic nepotism

01:57:52.920 inside the

01:57:53.780 country, and

01:57:54.860 you just never

01:57:55.820 get this

01:57:56.280 assimilation to

01:57:56.960 the American

01:57:57.320 way of life.

01:57:57.840 All right,

01:58:01.060 guys, we're

01:58:01.580 going to wrap

01:58:02.000 this up.

01:58:02.400 Anything else

01:58:02.860 before we go,

01:58:03.520 Ryan?

01:58:03.720 We finally

01:58:04.020 made it through

01:58:04.360 all the

01:58:04.540 Super Chats.

01:58:05.400 I think that

01:58:06.040 I've said

01:58:06.440 everything I

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - December 31, 2024

Elon and Vivek Start an H-1B Showdown ｜ Guests： Ryan Turnipseed and The Prudentialist ｜ 12⧸31⧸24

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