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The Auron MacIntyre Show
- January 09, 2026
Libs Are Calling for Civil War | Guest: J. Burden | 1⧸9⧸25
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life insurance company hey everybody how's it going thanks for joining me this afternoon i've
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got a great stream with a great guest that i think you're really going to enjoy the fallout from the
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shooting in minnesota continues we have definitive video evidence from the body cam of the agent
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involved that the shooting was justified however the libs are continuing to push for believe it or not
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civil war somewhere tim pool is vindicated also have news about the community relations service we thought
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it was dead then we saw evidence that perhaps it was getting refunded but we have good news on that
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front though it is a bit of a mixed bag we'll be discussing all those issues joining me today to
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talk about is of course one of our favorite returning co-host joe burton jay burton thank you so much for
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coming on yeah oran thank you so much for having me on i appreciate it no problem i'm also renaming
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you joe burton for no reason so i just want to well it's just the letter j i've left it up to
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people's imagination and i'm happy to reveal it is actually joe burton uh i was gonna go with jerome
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i should have gone with jerome yeah there have been others uh gemetrius one uh but you know people
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people could include their own and i guess we've decided on joe on this show anyway jose burton yeah
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get get you a assortment of ethnic hats whenever we change whichever the uh funny mustaches depending
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on which which uh name we slot in for the j there all right so as everyone has seen uh the libs have
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absolutely lost their mind over the ice shooting in minnesota uh one of the things that you think
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would happen after this is you'd go to the tape you'd watch it you'd see what happened and there would
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be a definitive look one way or another now we all know that with something like george floyd
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these can be out of context a quick clip can make things very difficult to understand but when you
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get additional context all of a sudden you start to realize that there's more than just the first
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clip now the first one even then didn't look that bad but we also received additional angles that
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showed very clearly that the officer was struck by the vehicle it's not a question of whether she hit
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the officer with the vehicle the question was only whether or not his life was in imminent danger
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now anybody who has paid any attention to this kind of stuff knows that if someone starts driving a
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vehicle at you that is assault with a deadly weapon you are justified at that point in defending yourself
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but leftist uh outlets went out there and said no absolutely uh she was turning her uh wheels away
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you look at the ap article on this says no she was reversed and fleeing when the officer opened fire
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this is just a blatant lie even from the two angles we had at the time but now we have
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an additional third angle before we watch uh that footage jay what do you think about the fact that
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the media just ran with that narrative from the beginning i mean we all know that they're going
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to try to spin it but i do have to say that's a pretty brazen lie when you have obvious footage that
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the officer was struck by the car before opening fire and the media intentionally just completely
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omitted this fact yeah i'll be honest i hate to say i'm surprised it took this long i'm sure you
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remember during the anti-elon protests of about a year ago there were these corner sort of shadowy
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internal memos which may or may not have been real saying that they were trying to create a sort of
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kent state incident right trying to get someone hurt so they could cynically profit off of that
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and that's clearly what happened here whether it was deliberate or simply chasing the algorithm we
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can discuss later but to be honest if it wasn't this it would have been something else right sort
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of a cautious belly a reason to you know say all the things they wanted to say anyway right a face to
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put on it in much the same way that that became george floyd right there were other incidents before
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where we saw kind of trial riots for you know brianna taylor a few others and george floyd became
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the face of blm we don't know if that's what's going to happen here but clearly there are people
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trying to do that trying to turn this woman into a sort of symbol of the resistance as some might say
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as regards the actual shooting i didn't say anything about it because at first there was a possibility it
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would have been what we call a lawful but awful shooting right there's a possibility this is not the
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case but it could have been a horrible accident right she was looking at one officer didn't see the
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others and so until we saw other other footage of this it was sort of in a murky area you know you
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could look at it and say she accelerated him did she see it was unclear but this footage in my mind is
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unequivocal she hits the officer right they're talking one to another it's not like she didn't
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know he was there and uh yeah it is incredibly cynical to run with this both from the kind of
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antifa crowd both from the the kind of liberal journalists who have doxed this ice agent you know
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posted a bunch of embarrassing photos of him given his identity out where he lives uh but also from as
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you've said ap from allegedly responsible journalists the sort of people that when you and i were in school
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we were taught was the gold standard right that is the true information you can cite well it turns out
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uh to be honest they're just as ideologically captured as everyone else which look we knew but
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you sort of expect some decorum out of ap you expect them to at least provide some sort of fig leaf over
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their radical leftism and apparently uh that's dropped yeah you like you say we expect spin you know
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that's notorious we know that's going to come the left-wing media is going to manipulate things they're
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going to lie about things but there is a certain level of a certain barrier of reality that they
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generally have to play inside of right like yeah okay the footage shows this but there are these other
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circumstances and what about the systemic oppression and you know maybe there should be better training
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like there's all these other ways to kind of couch the issue that can throw different uh you know shade
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on it there's some doubt on it but rarely do we see this bold face of a lie just completely omitting the
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fact that no actually this woman was clearly driving towards the officer during you know the
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shooting but now we have this footage and there's simply no reason to make everybody wait for it we'll
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break it down here because there's a couple things that you need to notice as it's playing
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you see the ice agent getting out here
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see him walking around the car now i want to point out uh something first uh early on the
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narrative we got from the left is oh well this is just some mother she dropped her kids off at daycare
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and she ends up here you know just out of the kindness of her heart she's a lawful observer
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is the language being used i'll make sure to tell the proud boys about that one remember guys you
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were just lawful observers uh but you know they they say oh well you know just this innocent woman
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wrong place wrong time probably didn't even know probably didn't even know that these guys were were
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ice agents and she just sees some random masked man in front of her car and and didn't understand
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but of course that's not the case and the word you use there is cause spell which i think is
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really important because right wingers don't understand this they genuinely don't when you're looking at a
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george floyd right that's kind of searching through you're sifting through the events to see who's
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going to be the most palatable victim you know like you said they try to start it with a couple other
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uh you know uh black individuals who had been uh shot or injured uh previously but you never know
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which one's going to stick so it's kind of just an a b test to see which one's going to end up
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catching the public imagination but you have to sit through this what's happening here is something
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very different this is a trained activist using a specific situation because she wants someone to get
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hurt right like the left is putting themselves in these situations on purpose okay every revolution
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that has ever begun in history tends to start the same way there was this crowd standing around a bunch
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of soldiers armed soldiers they start doing a bunch of things that are dangerous and illegal like
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throwing rocks or whatever and eventually a soldier fires back and boom you have your revolution right
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this is what the left is trying to do and they do it on purpose they have training manuals
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they go and they take people like this woman they teach them how to put themselves in situations
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where they can create a very dangerous and high pressure moment and then they use that as propaganda to
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start violence that is their cause is about it's what they are trying to manufacture and conservatives
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genuinely don't get this they think protests are there to like actually influence people's opinions
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and they are but only through manufacturing instances like this not through actual oh i saw a sign of
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someone had a clever sign on a street corner and now i believe whatever you believe no it's to
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create these media situations so she is already here and you can see she has locked eyes with this
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gentleman she knows what's going on here this is not some weird masked man this is not some stranger
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she's not some mom who went to day school or daycare that day to drop off her kids and then is just
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heading in to be a lawful observer whatever that phrase is supposed to mean she's there in the thick of it
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she knows who she's looking at she's putting herself in harm's way she's blocking the agents
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this is all premeditated she is completely involved in what she's doing she is knowingly entering in
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to the scenario hoping to manufacture a high pressure situation that will create a bad optics
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that leads into then that larger conflict well and this is something that conservatives kind of get
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you know that they'll post the photos of the journalists you know crouched around the burning trash can
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all trying to get the same shot and they'll they'll laugh at it they'll say oh look at them they're so
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stupid they don't understand what's actually going on here but the problem is these viral moments these
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images actually matter more than what actually happened and when i say that i don't mean literally or in a
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legal sense but they shape culture they shape how these events are remembered that famous protest
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photo of the the protesters putting you know flowers in the in the rifles of soldiers during the you know the
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60s is an example of that that's not representative of what actually happened on the day but in the
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kind of the psychic realm to use a stupid term but you know in the in the meme complex the way people
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remember things that becomes symbolic of that event and so in the same instance we're going over the
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forensic evidence what actually happens that does matter but functionally in liberal land in the kind of
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mainstream left-leaning culture it doesn't the facts don't matter because the narrative is so good
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so juicy it lines up with what they wanted to do anyway the facts don't matter to them and look are
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there true believers a hundred percent are there cynical actors one hundred percent but that's why this is
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being amplified not because it genuinely is some case of police overreach not because this man genuinely
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gunned down this defense this defenseless mother of three it's because it serves their narrative and
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you see that in the reaction with what tim walls is going to say we'll get to that later i assume
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but also the fact that seemingly they are trying to stoke a sort of george floyd too right they are
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declaring that kids don't have to go to school anymore because of riots and you're like well wait a
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minute there haven't been any riots there haven't been any security concerns yet and i'm not saying
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that they are telling all these kids to go but we know they're telling the teachers to go that's why
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exactly exactly exactly and so i think that we should be much much more cynical when we look at the
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left in america because this is exactly what they wanted to happen and they're completely fine with
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the fact that this woman was killed again i don't pretend to have a lot of sympathy for her or her
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politics but it is a bad thing that an american was killed largely due to their own stupidity but
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still like this didn't need to happen and we also need to acknowledge that all of the effectively that
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the narrative coming from the left in america is designed to get people hurt designed to get these
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people into bad situations so that they can be turned into a political symbol and i think that's a
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bad and irresponsible thing yeah again you have to recognize that this is being manufactured from the
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top to the bottom nothing about this was organic she's here because an ngo and antifa literature
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trained her to be here someone was paid to teach her how to act this way someone was paid to make this
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happen on top of that when as you say the school district cancels school it's not because they're
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worried about someone's safety it's not because they don't think that the kids can make it to school
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that day it's because they want the teachers free to be able to go out protest create more bodies in
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the streets create more tension that is in again intentional this is a leftist machine operating
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like a swiss watch attempting to manufacture an outcome you were saying this before we came on but
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the internet name for this has become george foyd right because it's just the uh you know woman that
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they're trying to manufacture into this new george floyd character they want to recreate the summer of
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love they've got a couple problems though and we'll get to that in a second but let's go ahead and
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continue to watch the video for now so again you can just see she knows exactly who she's talking
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to all these leftist narratives about she was scared she was startled she wouldn't know she
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reacted poor no this is entirely she's confident she's taunting the guy she doesn't expect that putting
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herself physically between an ice agent and the job that he's doing will have any consequences
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because that's what they've been taught and leftists are largely right about that they largely believe
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that they will not receive any negative consequences for placing themselves in these scenarios and up to
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this point they have largely been correct we have seen uh that one video from uh you know the the
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previous ice block where you know those guys charged that uh you know uh that line of uh ice agents
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and ended up getting shot because of that uh with the with the truck and everything uh so there have
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been some consequences but in general they feel smug they feel superior this is all a game to them
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this is just marvel movies this is something they see on tv this is something they see on social media
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it's not real so i can just pull up and act as if i'm invincible yeah i'm a lesbian in a in a honda
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i you know i work for the democratic party uh some some antifa guy trained me i was paid to train
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me by an ngo and this is going to be just fine i've been through this yeah this is the attitude going into
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these interactions it's okay we don't change our plates every morning just so you know it'll be
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the same plate when you come talk to us later that's fine u.s citizen you want to come at us
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so again you just see this wife quote unquote of this woman uh going out there and taunting while her
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lover is sitting in the car right like just just knowing that her gay lover has been put in this
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scenario but is going to go ahead and taunt armed men because she she's a she's a liberal with a
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camera she's invincible go get yourself some lunch big boy get out of the car get out of the car
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get out of the car so if you go back here a little bit you can hear the uh partner as you were uh
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yelling drive drive so this is her giving direct uh instructions to the driver to her gay lover that
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she should accelerate even though she knows that the ice officer is right there in front of the car like
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you can see they are talking you can see when she yells drive the officer is right here this is his
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his viewpoint he is in front of the car she is telling she's giving a direct order
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drive baby drive she wants her to peel right out of that so again this person should be in jail like
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she's an accessory to attempted murder uh obviously right here but again you see how callous the whole
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situation is no one here is in danger no one like the agent has not threatened her life he simply
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said get out of the car right and their intention is to immediately issue uh you know a directive
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drive over this guy that's exactly what they do want to do the minute that he says they need to get
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out of the car yeah i think that there's a couple things worth mentioning here uh it's widely reported i
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don't know if it's true this particular officer has been involved in another case where he was
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actually dragged drug by a car in a very similar circumstance so obviously that doesn't on its own
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make him right or wrong in this instance that's a separate issue but you have to understand that
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if you've already been hit by a car once you're much more likely to be quick on the draw to be honest
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you have run that experiment before and gotten the bad result and clearly as we've seen in this
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footage you just played multiple times he was hit by a car which is a deadly weapon i mean look at the
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terrorist attacks in europe but also there is a whole sub-genre of police body cam footage on the
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internet you can find it wherever you want of law enforcement officers being hit sometimes fatally
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sadly sometimes not by cars this is clearly a deadly weapon it is a three thousand pound missile
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and in a contest between a human body and three thousand pounds of steel like you don't need to
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be a physics expert to figure out where that goes and so the idea of proportional force the idea
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you know the you and obviously this applies differently to law enforcement officers than
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it does to you or iran is that there needs to be a threat to you you know i that phrase you hear
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often i was afraid for my life well clearly this man is in reasonable fear of his life he has been hit
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by something that could kill him that several months ago nearly did right sure he's walking around now
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but again it is a distinct possibility that when you get dragged behind a car you don't make it out
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not only for his own safety but there are other officers around him and we've seen in multiple other
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instances with dhs personnel that similar situations have happened people have tried to either run away
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with them on top of the car again a situation where they could easily be killed tried to ram them and
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so again like this is a very rational response someone is threatening me i will end that threat
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and again this is a tragic situation this woman understood the gravity of the situation if she had
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not been told that she would because she was a citizen have some sort of magic force field around
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her that protects her from the evil ice agents she might well be alive but again this cynical narrative
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is unconcerned with her personal safety obviously unconcerned with the safety of the nation at large
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obviously unconcerned with the safety of ice agents but these people do not have the moral high ground
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they got this woman killed they obviously it's her own fault as well but clearly like this is not some
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situation where you have the noble resistance standing up to fascism she threatened the life of
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an agent of the government who was armed and for her trouble she lost her life again leaving three
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children without parents which is horrible this shouldn't have happened but she is far from a martyr
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yeah i'm in the situation where i have seen a number of people who are more or less right-wing
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questioning questioning the shooting saying their issues involved and look i'm sorry but i just have
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no patience for this i was somebody who worked as a crime reporter uh we are a local reporter uh we had
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one guy after whatever the latest you know blm riot was he's on the beat i remember distinctly young cop
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in his early 20s he's out there and there's a black guy completely just out of his mind on drugs
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officer approaches him but recognizes after the heat of the last interracial incident that's making
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you know national news that if he ends up in a shootout with this guy he could be the next guy the next
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derrick derrick chauvin the next guy who's getting his life publicly ruined and have his character destroyed or maybe even going to jail
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so he tries to talk it out with this guy even though he clearly should have pulled the gun earlier he
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decides he wants to try to solve the situation and of course after a few words the guy who's completely
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loaded on drugs decides to leap and grab his gun wrestles it away and ends up shooting the officer
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with his own gun i yeah this was a huge story in my area there was a big police funeral they filled up a
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small uh uh amphitheater or not amphitheater a small stadium uh with with all the people who are
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attending i interviewed police officers i interviewed the family after the fact and i'm sorry but i just
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have very little sympathy for people who are second guessing officers who are trying to make split second
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life and death decisions now don't get me wrong there are bad shoots there are criminal shoots like there are
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shoots so bad that the officer does deserve to receive some kind of punishment but there is clear
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evidence in this case that we're not even close to that like we're not even in that ballpark it's not
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even a question of whether or not that should have been an authorized use of force but now again we have
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even more evidence so let's watch the last second here
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so you can see that she is looking straight at him when she starts to pull forward he is directly
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in front of the car there is no question here about whether she knew she was accelerating
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through him she knows who he is she knows the lawful order that's been given she's listening to her
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wife instead and choosing to accelerate directly into the officer who she can clearly see in front of
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her and when she does pay attention to when the gunshots actually get fired
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the gunshots aren't until after the officer has already been hit so it's not preemptive it's not
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like he looked her in the eye and said this woman's about to run me over it literally he's up in the air
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he's getting knocked around by the car as the gun is fired you have a officer with a drawn weapon who's
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told you to remove yourself from the car you accelerate into the officer with your eyes locked
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on that officer with his gun drawn and he still doesn't fire until after you have already hit him
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again as you point out this man has already been hit and drugged by a car by another by another one of
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these antifa terrorists this is an act of terror this is a woman who is a terrorist she's a domestic
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terrorist she locks eyes with a officer knowing what she's doing putting herself in a situation
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where she knew she was going to receive a lawful order to remove herself from the car she locks eyes
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with them follows the instructions of her terrorist girlfriend and decides to try to kill the officer
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who only fires when he when he gets hit this is as clean as a kill as you can possibly imagine
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well especially because we saw this narrative evolve very very quickly and initially the left
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wing narrative was look he shot her through the window because the other angle of it it was from
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another you know side it was kind of at the if you can imagine sort of like the 10 o'clock angle looking
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from the car down you couldn't really tell did he shoot through the windshield of the car or the side
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the implication being she was accelerating in a direction where no one was and this man simply
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you know woke up one day and said i want to kill a protester well that fell apart very very quickly
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the other parts of this narrative are falling apart very very quickly like you said this seems to be
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not a lawyer but open and shut it seems to be that he was threatened and responded appropriately
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but again this doesn't like it matters for you and i right it matters for people who care about
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what's true but it doesn't matter to the narrative i mean you can look into you know the toxicology
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report of one george floyd draw your own conclusions but that doesn't change it that doesn't matter that
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doesn't change the fact that the george floyd thing got so intense that you could log on to call of duty
00:24:58.560
and read a like a obituary to the man right that level of narrative control point is
00:25:07.280
this happens this is being published this is being shoved in your face because it aligns with
00:25:13.840
a narrative it aligns with the narrative that ice is illegitimate that immigration enforcement at all
00:25:19.440
is illegitimate and that we need to get rid of these the reaction to it has been very telling
00:25:26.000
you've seen the progressives posting things about denazification the idea that this is such an evil
00:25:32.080
horrible thing that we need to socially engineer the population to make sure that this can never happen
00:25:38.240
again and look is that likely to happen who knows but clearly this is being spun up into a wider narrative
00:25:46.880
about the the absolute moral inacceptability of protecting your borders which again is stupid
00:25:54.400
we all know it's stupid but nonetheless because it serves a narrative it will be promulgated and so
00:26:00.400
ultimately these are not really a rational debate you don't really expect to see people sitting across
00:26:07.120
from each other trading forensic details about this case it is a war of belief and quite simply this
00:26:13.600
is a feature of this kind of leftist religion she's being transformed into a saint as we watch it
00:26:21.040
i i want people to understand like if you're if you're still that person and god bless you if you
00:26:26.080
are but if you're still that person who's holding on to like no there's objective reality and the left
00:26:30.800
will be forced to recognize objective reality we're gonna take you know we're gonna we're gonna take
00:26:35.360
their eyes and you know hold them open like you're in clockwork orange and they're gonna watch this
00:26:39.440
footage a thousand times and then they'll know we're right and they're wrong and they'll have
00:26:43.360
to admit where they're going i want you to understand that to this day i still know people personally who
00:26:49.280
actually believe that donald trump had himself shot or faked his shooting so that he could create
00:26:56.400
sympathy and win the election like that is still a conspiracy theory that a sizable percentage of
00:27:02.480
the left actually believes like really talk to any leftist friends you have and in about 10 minutes
00:27:07.760
you'll get to them saying yeah i think probably actually the whole thing was fake like if they're
00:27:12.560
still holding on to that do you really think that this footage is going to change anything and the
00:27:18.560
most important thing as you say is that the narrative is already out of the gate so for instance you know as
00:27:24.320
you alluded to earlier we're getting a lot of like straight on civil war rhetoric from the left on
00:27:29.840
this tim walls literally is making reference to the civil war invoking the role of the proud role of
00:27:36.480
minnesota in uh in in the civil war and that he once again will bring his national guard and he will arm
00:27:43.040
his national guard and they will be under his control they will defy the president and they will protect
00:27:48.720
by which he means shoot and kill ice agents or he will protect his people by meaning he will shoot
00:27:55.600
and kill ice agents if they try to come in and enforce the law so he is openly declaring his intention
00:28:02.480
to use armed soldiers to kill ice agents if they attempt to do their duty in minnesota
00:28:10.160
that's insurrection like it's not oh you walked in with a you know to try to you know stand behind
00:28:16.240
the podium in congress insurrection it's insurrection i'm a guy with forces under my control theoretically
00:28:24.080
who could shoot you and i am threatening to turn their guns on the federal government on federal
00:28:29.520
agents it's that level of insurrection and in case you think that this is just an isolated incident of
00:28:34.560
tim walls because he's just an idiot here is the police chief of philadelphia try not to laugh too hard
00:28:41.120
good afternoon i'm roe shovel out the sheriff for the city and county of philadelphia and i say her
00:28:48.160
name renee good renee good renee good renee good renee good so we're just starting with the you know
00:28:58.080
the religious ritual of mispronouncing philadelphia and then chanting this uh woman's name for getting
00:29:04.080
herself shot this should not have happened but we're here today let know that law enforcement
00:29:10.800
professionals real ones not the fake made up ice probably trumps a new army to attack citizens of
00:29:19.920
the united states so ice is a paramilitary organization used to attack the united states
00:29:28.080
i'm trying to interpret this from whatever you know is coming out here did you hear what i said
00:29:33.600
mm-hmm we heard what you said we heard what you said no law enforcement professional wears a mask
00:29:42.080
none except during covet when when everybody was required by law to wear a mask they do wear weaves
00:29:50.400
though some of them only the leadership okay that's that's that's that's like a crest you know it's
00:29:57.520
like a ancient roman general's helmet okay that declare declares their stature as a as a uh aristocrat
00:30:04.800
who deserves to lead armed forces against the evil army of uh of donald trump none
00:30:14.800
those that come into our communities wearing a mask to commit crime and thank god for our district
00:30:22.000
attorney larry krasner who say he's gonna lock him up and i'm saying now we are not gonna whisk you away
00:30:30.000
for them to hide your identity because when you do it there you're getting arrested there so she is
00:30:38.080
threatening not only to arrest ice agents in the performance of their duty but to make sure that they
00:30:44.560
are doxxed so that they can later be killed i want to be really clear about what the left is doing here
00:30:49.840
they've already doxxed the agent who has been hit even though we can see from the footage that
00:30:54.560
everything he did was lawful not just him but they are of course also trying to dox his friends and
00:30:59.200
family she is also threatening this this is this is terrorism this is a call for violence this is a
00:31:06.960
call for the murder of ice agents and their families from a police chief in a major american city
00:31:15.440
that we we have to we can't pretend we can't play these games we can't pretend there are these shades
00:31:22.720
of nuance in this she knows exactly what she's doing she's announcing that if you're a federal
00:31:27.920
agent who does your job in philadelphia we will open fire on you arrest you and if we don't kill you
00:31:35.760
when we get you into custody we will dox you so someone else will kill you later that is the
00:31:41.840
exact threat that is being issued point blank like this like i know i know nothing ever happens
00:31:50.400
and no rhetoric ever escalates and we're never going to really see any of this stuff and what
00:31:54.480
a fool you are for thinking that we could ever see this in a modern day i have to hear this from
00:31:59.280
all kinds of political realists but i don't know jay like as inept as these people are how far can we go
00:32:06.640
with this kind of stuff how many times can they threaten to kill or actually try to kill
00:32:12.960
federal agents before something happens here so several things there one uh as as difficult as it
00:32:22.080
was for you and i to get through that statement she clearly was having a much harder time of it
00:32:27.040
just getting the words out that was i hadn't seen this clip at you know before when we before we went
00:32:32.560
live you were saying to say like oh you're going to get your live reaction i was not anticipating
00:32:36.880
anything that bad that was that was honestly very funny but you know mostly just because of its
00:32:42.320
ineptness but in all seriousness this is a threat we understand this there have already been numbers
00:32:47.680
of incidents where people have gone after ice agents there have been these leaks exposing their
00:32:54.720
identities where they live and they have been harassed they have been attacked we've seen this happen
00:32:59.040
before and look like we understand how this game is played doxing is never done for journalistic
00:33:06.640
integrity so we can get their full name you know in the article so it's you know airtight from our
00:33:10.960
argumentative perspective no it is an incitement to harassment we saw this just a few days ago with jd
00:33:16.720
vans his ohio resident was smashed up by a guy with a hammer thankfully nobody was home but we understand
00:33:24.080
where this goes this happened to tucker carlson several years ago his wife barricaded herself in the
00:33:28.960
home because there was a mob outside trying to beat down the door yeah sorry can i just to stop
00:33:34.880
real quick for that by the way i understand that some people are angry at tucker carlson they don't
00:33:39.920
like everything that he's been saying recently that's fine i certainly have some disagreements
00:33:44.000
especially with the comments on islam in the united states but never forget that this man was
00:33:49.360
literally as you say threatened his his wife had to hide in a closet for what he has said and what
00:33:56.160
he has stood for so when when you're throwing you know these things out just remember the personal
00:34:01.680
costs that some of these people have ultimately paid give perhaps a little bit of you know remember
00:34:08.000
just putting that in people's hats as they as they uh you know think about you know their their current
00:34:12.720
feelings towards these people but i'm sorry continue what you're saying no but this is not some sort of
00:34:18.400
far-fetched idea that oh you know you're just inventing this hypothetical where someone is harassed or harmed
00:34:25.040
because their identity has been revealed no we've seen it over and over and over again where this
00:34:31.280
is a deliberate tactic as you've said it's incitement to murder is incitement to someone going to their
00:34:37.680
house and doing something bad to them we've seen this happen over again and so the idea that you know
00:34:44.400
this this masked law enforcement presence is somehow unprecedented uh is also not true you ever seen an
00:34:51.040
fbi raid like for instance if you know some octogenarian stands outside an abortion clinic
00:34:56.160
when they go to get her they're wearing masks a swat team is wearing masks and sure there's a difference
00:35:04.080
between a swat team you know kicking down someone's door and you know officers you know out doing
00:35:09.520
immigration enforcement but this is entirely rational these people are saying we're going to find out who
00:35:16.000
you are with the sort of unspoken threat being and something bad will happen to you so maybe you
00:35:22.880
shouldn't let them know shouldn't let them find out who you are i don't know if you caught this arm but
00:35:29.280
roughly at the same time or shortly after this incident a group of hackers doxed about 14 000 dhs
00:35:37.440
personnel connected to ice again posted on antifa sites retweeted by antifa accounts why are these
00:35:46.560
people just that interested in knowing 14 000 random names or is there reprisal we all know why and again
00:35:56.320
the idea that you're engaging in some sort of you know rational debate between yourself and for
00:36:01.680
instance you know the police chief of philadelphia is absurd right clearly these people are not
00:36:06.880
interested in that this isn't a genuine defense of this action it is naked power right it's we are
00:36:14.320
going to make your life hell we're going to make you move we're going to make you a pariah among your
00:36:20.480
community or at the most extreme we're going to kick down your door and kill you this has happened before
00:36:26.800
thankfully not as many as instances as there could be but this is an incitement to mob violence we've
00:36:32.400
seen this happen over and over and over again and even sometimes innocent people right who are not
00:36:37.760
connected to law enforcement or doxed or you know people who are on the internet not even necessarily
00:36:44.640
you know out there you know enforcing our immigration laws are subjected to brutal violence and so again i
00:36:51.280
have no truck for this style of i'm gonna say argument argument in quotes these sort of statements i'll
00:36:59.120
leave it at that yeah i i've said this many times over it so at the risk of just repeating myself
00:37:10.240
endlessly but still saying i hope something that matters quite a bit to the administration
00:37:15.280
after j6 the biden admin hunted down everybody everyone who was in the building everybody who's
00:37:25.360
outside of the building everybody who made phone calls guys who weren't even near the building weren't
00:37:30.400
even the same state went to jail for decades they were sentenced to decades of jail time that's how
00:37:39.040
thoroughly they went after everyone they claimed was involved in insurrection grandmas it cancer
00:37:46.240
patients it didn't matter everyone got tracked down everyone got harassed everyone got charged many
00:37:53.440
people went to jail for a very long time for basically walking around
00:37:59.120
if you are going to let people dox your agents you're just not taking your role seriously
00:38:10.160
there are names there are faces the people doing this live somewhere and they can be arrested and put
00:38:16.960
in jail for what they are doing you can do this they are facilitating violence against officers you can
00:38:24.960
find a way to put these people in jail if joe biden can find a way if his administration could find a way
00:38:30.480
to put a grandma standing outside the building watching january 6 happen if they can put her in jail
00:38:37.520
you can put people in jail who try to kill officers you can do that so you need to this is ridiculous
00:38:45.360
there is no excuse for this if we can black bag maduro in the middle of the night in a couple hours
00:38:51.920
with zero casualties you can arrest antifa members who are hacking and doxing your agents you just can
00:38:58.720
i know courts i know issues i know bad optics whatever i don't care you got to fix the problem
00:39:05.680
there needs to be a clear message sent now in some ways a clear message was sent here that woman is now
00:39:11.280
dead and that officer is not going to be in trouble unless of course he is from all the doxing
00:39:17.440
that's happened so you have to cut off this avenue you have to cut off this avenue of terrorism we
00:39:23.680
simply cannot we cannot continue as a country when domestic terrorists can try to murder a cop and
00:39:29.280
then if the officer isn't murdered if the agent isn't murdered they can turn around and just dox him
00:39:35.040
until someone else will get the job done as burden said everybody knows what these names and addresses
00:39:40.000
are out there to do everybody knows there's no there's no confusion here and if you're sitting
00:39:46.800
around playing footsies with this you're not doing you're doing a disservice to the people who are
00:39:52.160
putting themselves physically in harm's way on a regular basis so that needs to change all right
00:39:56.720
before we're running out of time so before we get out of here we need to talk about the community
00:40:01.920
relations service so anyone who's watched this show familiar with this channel knows about the
00:40:07.200
community relations service i've done large threads on it done videos on it had academic
00:40:13.040
agent on to discuss it from some of the things he had discovered and what we have seen is that the
00:40:18.720
community relations service is a rather nefarious organization which was designed in theoretically
00:40:24.880
originally and is statutorily required by the civil rights act to go out and mitigate any issues
00:40:33.520
between different communities when there's an interracial attack when there's violence in
00:40:37.600
reality it turns out it's only really there to smooth over attacks against white people when
00:40:43.280
minorities kill white people crs shows up it starts uh manufacturing statements trying to encourage uh
00:40:51.200
you know distraught parents to downplay the violence uh manipulate the different stories in the media to
00:40:57.440
uh put out the flames like this is their job is to go out there and basically cover up as much as
00:41:03.440
possible whenever a minority uh individual kills a white american and this was obviously a very nefarious
00:41:11.440
thing to be out there there's even a book where the you know the founders of this department go out and
00:41:15.680
brag about it you can you can actually just read about them doing this because they think it's such a
00:41:20.480
noble thing to be out there and doing that they want to spill the beans on themselves now to the trump
00:41:25.120
administration's credit they recognize the evil of this and they went out of their way to try to get
00:41:29.680
rid of this organization they issued a statement saying that they wanted to zero out the budget of
00:41:33.760
this and get it eliminated the problem is that while they did make that statement in intention in fact uh
00:41:39.920
the organization was largely defunded but because it's statutorily required in the civil rights act you
00:41:47.280
can't completely eliminate it without repealing or uh or editing uh amending the civil rights act
00:41:54.800
so the best they could do is basically try to turn it into a skeleton crew and defund it as much as
00:41:59.840
possible that's good that's still a positive thing but there was always the danger that this thing could
00:42:05.120
be refunded that this thing could be resurrected from its basically a dead state uh because it's still
00:42:11.840
there on paper it's still still required to exist so today we got this from oilfield rando who's an
00:42:19.200
excellent twitter account one of the best researchers in the game really is always spilling uh some of the
00:42:24.560
biggest stories out there and he says okay the house community uh the republican house just gave
00:42:29.840
the community service relation funding again hope we all enjoy the one year without one of the most
00:42:34.800
sinister programs in our nation's history now i went and did some digging on this because i wanted to make
00:42:40.240
sure we got this right i spoke with some people in the administration near the budgeting process and
00:42:46.800
they're still sifting through everything that happened here but from what i have been told and you can
00:42:51.840
kind of see it in the language here uh if you take a look it tells you that twenty thousand dollars uh
00:42:58.080
could be provided for this organization now first twenty thousand dollars is not enough it's not even
00:43:03.360
one person's salary right so we're already looking at a shoestring budget as basically as low as they can
00:43:09.520
get it now still not a uh uh or sorry i just said twenty thousand when i said we meant twenty million
00:43:15.920
okay sorry i completely missed a comma there what i said was entirely invalid completely forget what i
00:43:20.160
just said okay sorry it is a significant amount of money uh however uh when i spoke with the when i
00:43:26.400
spoke with people near the administration what they told me was that as you can see in uh the the
00:43:32.160
language here the attorney general has makes the determination on whether or not this money actually
00:43:37.440
gets spent whether actually gets allocated and that's the key provision here is that ultimately this money is
00:43:43.600
not going into the crs it's basically being set aside uh which is not as good you wish that the
00:43:50.080
crs was entirely just gone completely they didn't need any language on this but it looks like more or
00:43:55.200
less this is copy and pasted out of previous budgets someone more or less just took this out of
00:44:00.880
a previous funding bill and said oh well this is a statually required statutorily required thing
00:44:06.480
we need to go ahead and put that language in there and then just put okay but we're not really
00:44:11.440
going to fund it we're just we're just kind of setting the money can be allocated but then we're
00:44:16.880
not actually going to do it however uh obviously you still want to get rid of this right so the goal
00:44:23.280
is to ultimately remove this permanently uh but they are kind of doing it in stages of the process which
00:44:29.440
is incredibly infuriating that this is like the level of bureaucracy we have that even the executive
00:44:35.760
branch can't get rid of this thing and congress has difficulty to funding it even when they want
00:44:41.680
to uh so that that's that's how deep the deep state is that there's that many levels of protection
00:44:47.520
around a nefarious agency like this so you can really see uh you know while this is still frustrating
00:44:55.200
uh the idea that this money is just going directly into that they're just getting that 20 million
00:44:59.760
dollars and restarting the community relations service is inaccurate and again it's still not
00:45:04.960
great wish you know they would have spent more time on completely removing this but again as i
00:45:10.080
understand it with these kind of doge style processes they kind of have to do this trick where they zero
00:45:15.760
out the budget as much as possible restrict the budget as much as possible reduce the staff as much
00:45:19.680
as possible before they get to the point where they can actually get rid of it that's just kind of
00:45:23.840
the way the system is currently built i hate it i think there should be more done but i want
00:45:28.720
people to understand this is not as bad as it looked this is not just the oh we're just refunding
00:45:33.760
this and starting the program over again uh it is more of a frustration with procedure there could
00:45:40.080
have been better versions of this but basically you have a zombie agency wandering around without
00:45:44.800
funding without real uh without any real power without any real personnel but technically still
00:45:50.960
statutorily required because as sad as it is as much as i think it needs to happen we simply do not
00:45:56.000
have the support to remove the uh you know the the civil rights act at the moment which means this
00:46:01.360
provision still stays in yeah i mean look i don't have any particular insight into this so this is me
00:46:10.480
kind of shooting from the hip uh obviously it would be great if this was not an issue at all if we could
00:46:16.880
just say it's done and it's done but assuming that's not on the table which it seems like it's not well
00:46:23.200
be honest firing everyone i think there's one or two people still on staff there hey look it's better
00:46:29.360
than nothing i'm not gonna look a gift horse in the mouth on this because like i like many people
00:46:34.080
didn't even know this institution existed right it was sort of something that we discovered and so
00:46:41.360
you know what look it's again it's not an unqualified win but it's still a win nonetheless
00:46:47.600
yeah and it's one of those scenarios uh where what you just said is really critical one of the
00:46:52.400
the reasons this just slid into the budget is literally because no one knows what it is like
00:46:56.640
you and i know what it is it's infamous in our corner of the internet but outside of this despite
00:47:01.680
our efforts you know and and others like uh rye nationalists wrote a big piece on this there have
00:47:07.040
been people who have put this forward and we're doing our best to get the word out there about what
00:47:11.680
this is and what it did and why it needs to die but this is still for most congressmen and most senators
00:47:17.200
something that's entirely not on their radar now we should fix that this is not a call of
00:47:22.000
complacency or why that's okay today here's your job here is your homework listener what can i do what
00:47:27.760
can i do on the internet today go to representatives go to senators call them yes call their offices but
00:47:34.560
also at them on social media with this information blow it up hey congressman do you know about this
00:47:41.120
organization do you want it funded hey senator do you know because remember this is already past
00:47:45.760
the congress uh it's good it's past the house it's got to go to the senate now i know there are senators
00:47:51.200
it's all behind the scenes right now but i know there are senators who know about this and are trying
00:47:55.200
to get this language removed so people are aware people are active on this where you know we got people
00:48:01.120
wheels are turning so i want to make it clear there are people out here who are addressing this issue
00:48:05.680
however what can you do make sure everybody knows who this is no make sure your parents know what this
00:48:11.600
organization is your siblings know this organization is make sure it's on social media make sure you're
00:48:16.480
letting representatives know journalists know pundits know everybody should know what the community
00:48:22.000
relations service is everybody should know what it did everyone should know how evil it is everyone
00:48:26.240
should know how important it is to defund it we should make this infamous okay so it's not as bad a
00:48:31.120
situation as it looks like but there is a role to play here this should be something that everyone
00:48:36.560
knows automatically at least every conservative should know exactly what this is and why it needs
00:48:41.200
to go every congressman should know just like they're learning that uh immigration is something
00:48:45.280
they at least have to pretend to care about same thing should be true about the crs here right
00:48:49.600
even if they're just giving lip service every single republican congressman and senator should know
00:48:54.880
this organization is infamous and that their constituents want it gone okay that that
00:48:59.600
is your homework for today so uh again just something you should be aware of i think this is ultimately
00:49:05.680
not going to be a big deal if it it's probably language it's going to get pulled even if it doesn't
00:49:10.320
get pulled the organization is not being resurrected the trump administration is not going to hand it over
00:49:15.280
whatever you think of pam bomby she's not going to authorize 20 million dollars to to reopen
00:49:20.160
this organization however we should be pushing to make sure this is something that is getting eliminated
00:49:26.800
that next time around next time there's a funding bill next time there's budget we're just zeroing
00:49:30.640
this out that this language is gone forever and we never have to worry about this again final boss
00:49:35.040
is of course again the civil rights act without that gone the statutory requirement already has to exist
00:49:41.200
it always will exist as long as that legislation is still in uh place however you can at least get
00:49:46.880
this as defunded and completely removed as possible so that's your goal make it infamous make sure
00:49:51.920
everybody knows action needs to be taken all right guys we have plenty of questions from the audience
00:49:58.000
so we're going to get to those here in a second but before we do mr burden where can people find your
00:50:01.920
excellent work yeah so my primary bit of output is the j burden show you can find it apple spotify
00:50:08.160
youtube i do write every now again now and again over on substack i also have some upcoming articles you
00:50:14.400
can find in traditional print magazines but like i said the j burden show i post shows five days a week
00:50:20.720
so if you're you're hungry for content i'll certainly uh certainly provide it again aaron thank
00:50:25.680
you so much for having me on yeah and your latest episode was was the uh great peter brimelow uh about
00:50:31.200
halfway through it uh before i jumped on here so people should definitely check that out that's a man
00:50:35.680
who's been fighting the battle on immigration uh for a very long time well before it was popular
00:50:40.720
and it paid a high professional and personal cost for doing so uh so certainly one of those grizzled
00:50:46.720
veterans uh well worth hearing from as kind of the new right tries to figure out where it's going what
00:50:51.600
it should be doing taking these elder statesmen who were fighting uh when you know it wasn't popular
00:50:56.480
and it was getting them nowhere those those paleocons you really should listen to them and gather their
00:51:01.040
wisdom while we still have that opportunity so make sure that you're doing that it looks like we've
00:51:07.280
just got some beavers here team beaver is excited to see of course jay burton on the show thank you very much
00:51:12.320
uh randall shirker says uh with how conic acted i'd be lying if i said i wasn't one of the uh wasn't
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of the opinion that they were involved in ck c kirk it involved in c kirk must be loving the current
00:51:28.320
situation yeah i mean again i look i i'm not gonna tell people not to ask questions about pretty much any
00:51:35.520
mainstream narrative at this point uh however i feel that while there may have been some level
00:51:42.160
of antifa conspiracy involved in shooting charlie kirk i really do think it was largely limited to
00:51:49.680
the motivations that are obvious from a true terrorist i don't really need to be worked on
00:51:55.040
very hard to be convinced that uh you know a a trans person who hates uh the average conservative would
00:52:00.480
walk in to a public setting and kill them only because i've seen them do that multiple times
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uh so it's entirely believable uh and i just have not seen enough evidence to to present
00:52:10.240
other arguments i know there are people who go deep on this again not going to wave you off of
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that but if you're asking my personal opinion i think in this case what you see is more or less what
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you get he also says and on the ice shooting people pearl clutching over it right or left can spare
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me after the last five years ashley babbitt kirk etc yeah on that entirely agree i'm very tired
00:52:32.160
of this i mean we watched charlie kirk and arena zarutska die within a week of each other okay
00:52:39.280
i'm sorry i don't i just have very little sympathy left and the last of my sympathy
00:52:44.160
for this kind of thing drained away with charlie kirk's blood like i i'm sorry i'm just not
00:52:50.160
you you try to kill a cop they shoot you back you're not getting a single tear from me again i wish
00:52:56.480
people wouldn't die as jay burden pointed out american dies even of their own you know their
00:53:01.360
own actions uh sad to see uh but ultimately uh that that's kind of what happens those are natural
00:53:07.440
consequences for actions and i think uh the the ice agent involved was entirely justified
00:53:14.800
uh mosin um mosrin mosers trying my best there it says a favorite commentator combo well thank you very
00:53:21.760
much sir appreciate that orwell's goon says i felt a great disturbance on x as if millions of
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posts suddenly cried out in copium and were suddenly deleted i fear something liberal has happened again
00:53:35.200
i wish that was true like that's very funny it's a good joke uh but sadly i think very few liberals will
00:53:40.640
delete their posts i think very few of them will walk away that's what that that's sorry to black pill
00:53:46.320
everyone but this really is the blackest pill your reality video does not matter to them scott adams
00:53:52.960
god bless by the way people pray for scott adams pray for his genuine conversion to jesus christ he's
00:53:57.680
been talking about pursuing christ in his last days as he faces uh cancer uh but it seems to be a more of
00:54:04.800
a pascal's wager situation uh just just pray for his genuine conversion to christianity i i think scott is
00:54:11.280
a guy who's done a lot of important work and i would surely want him to know the salvation of
00:54:16.000
christ that that many of us uh have already experienced but you know his his discussion
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about two movies on the same screen really is uh what we're seeing here right no matter how many
00:54:26.080
times you play that video for many liberals they will continue to say unarmed woman you know had kids
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dropped her kids off school that will be the narrative going forward again it's too useful uh for them
00:54:37.600
otherwise and you know jay i didn't get to talk to you about this but it just came to mind and i think
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it's an important factor one of the things that people have said about this particular incident
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is while the left is obviously trying to manufacture uh a a george floyd moment uh first obviously the
00:54:52.240
cold is an issue it's hard to just get people to out and riot when it's 20 degrees outside uh but also
00:54:58.640
and i think this is a real big factor it feels like the left's heart isn't entirely in this one
00:55:03.440
and i think the answer comes down to the fact that this was a white woman and so she's not a sacred
00:55:08.720
minority they worship black people they worship people of color and those are if you kill one of
00:55:14.480
those that's that's the real crime you kill a liberal white woman well you know they don't like
00:55:19.600
it they're gonna try to get everybody excited oh can't you believe it but ultimately white people
00:55:25.120
just aren't as valuable they don't worship them the same way and so it's very difficult to animate
00:55:29.840
a large violent mob in the same manner well yes and that also affects uh who shows up for a riot as
00:55:37.920
well uh look you know being a lesbian gets you some points but not nearly as much as you know george
00:55:44.240
floyd was playing with so i think that that sort of cynicism is is well warranted i mean look uh i'm not
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exactly a left-wing protester but like you couldn't get me out in the streets in minnesota in early january
00:55:58.800
like that sounds miserable so i think that you know it may well be that this is simply the build
00:56:05.760
up to something greater as we've said there seems to be a deliberate strategy of tension to try and
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get people into situations like this and then profit on it after the case and so who knows instead
00:56:17.520
of you know george foyd she may be brianna taylor right a predicate to a much wider kind of attempted
00:56:24.560
color revolution who knows but uh clearly this is just one of a number of cases used to build this
00:56:32.320
narrative and argue for as we said earlier sort of you know mega reconstruction also the optics are
00:56:41.680
just bad because frankly why is it that every lesbian dresses like a 15 year old boys version of what a
00:56:50.640
black rapper should dress like like i don't like what what is this like what is it like like they
00:56:55.920
just i don't you never you know you know there's not a lot of photos of you know her loving the kids
00:57:02.320
in a flowing dress or something it's always you know that kind of get up well i think we really have
00:57:08.240
to to thank this woman for for challenging stereotypes because you'll notice it was a it was a burgundy honda
00:57:13.920
not a subaru so you know what like we have to give her credit somewhere however there was a pitbull mix
00:57:19.760
in the back of the car yeah yeah you're right you're right and so ultimately you know between
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the domestic violence rates of lesbians and the violence of pit bulls i mean if if if the officer
00:57:29.120
hadn't gotten her one of those teen things would she was living a lifestyle that was going to end poorly
00:57:33.920
no matter what right so we're missing the subaru square but we still got bingo on the lesbian bingo
00:57:39.680
card right like you still have other the stereotypical parts right yeah the partner
00:57:44.160
trying to drive you to self-destructive and possibly deadly behavior like yeah just it's all there right
00:57:49.840
like if she hadn't rammed the agent that that woman definitely would have gone home and beat her
00:57:55.280
like for disobedience at the end of the whole thing right like that's just that's how that would have
00:57:59.280
gone down so uh zing way menacing says uh life-size jay burden body pillow dropping soon jay burden
00:58:08.960
will you denounce anime degeneracy live on this stream look anime is is worse for you than than
00:58:18.800
it's smoking crack but in this instance look if i get royalties whatever you want saying whatever you
00:58:25.920
want just cut me in on it it is less dangerous than a lesbian relationship with antifa actors
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only marginally only marginally uh jay warville says uh libtard on x what if a million of us decided
00:58:42.320
to ram our cars into ice agents i'm pretty sure they know what that is called yeah of course right
00:58:47.200
they so this is they've recognized that they can't just pull guns on these people right like that tactic
00:58:53.040
that optic is uh bad they tried that a few times right they shot and killed charlie kirk they tried to
00:58:58.560
murder several ice agents as a sniper but ended up just killing the detainees because all of the left
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is completely inept and stupid uh but uh they they do ultimately recognize that there is some level
00:59:10.160
optics so the thing you can do with a car is you can drive it around and the cops can't just immediately
00:59:15.280
shoot you as opposed to a gun like they see you running around with a gun they can take some kind
00:59:18.960
of action but the car you know you've got this this vehicle that can become a weapon at any moment
00:59:23.840
but you can try to generate this plausible deniability and this goes back to our discussion about the
00:59:27.600
cause of spell right putting yourself in those situations where you're trying to manufacture
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bad optics because because you want the violence you're hoping things kick off
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friend enthusiast says why is academic uh agent counter signaling the right on recent incidents uh
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honestly i i really have just not kept up with uh what a is doing at the moment uh he seems to be on
00:59:49.280
his own adventure god bless him uh i honestly i just kind of steer clear at the moment a lot of other
00:59:54.880
people who are more familiar uh with what he's up to answer that because i just i literally don't
00:59:59.520
even know what he's saying at this point i haven't seen it uh water voids says uh i have noticed that a
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lot of people couldn't help but give into their uh libertarian ideological tomfoolery on this shooting
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yeah that was another one that was very frustrating look i get that libertarians don't like the state
01:00:18.800
they don't like authority they don't like the police they'll point to very legitimate scenarios in which
01:00:24.000
the police have shot innocent white people who are just you know trying to comply again there are
01:00:28.960
real police brutality incidents there are bad shootings officers don't get a free pass on like
01:00:35.280
all violence just because they're out there with a gun like that's to be clear that's not what you're
01:00:38.880
saying however there is an impulse i think among libertarians to just always side against the agent
01:00:44.560
of the state um and that's what you're seeing there um and it's unfortunate because there are several
01:00:49.840
people who i respect uh who have engaged in that behavior um but hopefully this video i know the
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liberals aren't going to watch this video and change your mind i hope i hope that some of these
01:01:00.640
libertarians who have been throwing around this nonsense see that and say okay maybe we need to
01:01:06.320
step back from this one aaron i noticed you you listed out uh several things that libertarians
01:01:13.360
don't like authority the state police but you you neglected the most important things that
01:01:19.200
libertarians dislike and that's their dad and i think that's enough on that subject yeah dad god
01:01:25.360
god dad just kind of depends yeah it's uh it's it's not as bad as the liberal the the liberal is defined
01:01:30.800
by hating their dad i think the libertarians got some level of relationship with their father but
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perhaps it's not healthy i don't i don't know i don't i don't know if the linkage is as direct but
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you're you're right that's an occurring theme for sure
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uh tiny stupid demon says good to know that when civilization is about to collapse uh into ashes
01:01:49.120
i can look forward to jay burden appearances on the or mcintyra show to talk uh me down from the
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cliff happy new years and keep up the great work glad we know glad to know that we could provide this
01:01:59.200
essential service sir and thank you so much for your well wishes and your support well i like that
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tiny stupid demon is sort of like the psychotic ex-girlfriend like do this or else i'll jump so you
01:02:10.080
know that's a certain form of job security i appreciate it but if you don't see me for a few
01:02:14.400
months i expect you to follow through on your end of the deal tiny stupid demon uh mr nikes will put it
01:02:22.720
that way bears repeating at some point fuentes and tate are the good option yeah i mean look i i don't
01:02:30.240
think that either of those guys are excellent spokesmen for their position uh nor are they good examples for
01:02:36.800
young men uh that said um they keep grant gaining in popularity because again and i've said this a
01:02:43.360
thousand times but we'll might as well make it a thousand one the conservative commentariat is not
01:02:47.760
doing its job the the they are not going out there and addressing the issues in a serious manner and when
01:02:53.920
you dance around these issues when you dance around issues that affect men when you dance around issues
01:02:59.120
that affect immigration and you know issues of foreign influence or uh you know bigotry against white
01:03:05.120
people then you open this avenue for people who will address it even if they're going to address
01:03:09.520
it poorly and so at some point yeah it makes sense that people are turning towards these sources the
01:03:15.040
answer for the right is not to go oh no they're listening to andrew tate whatever you do don't
01:03:19.600
listen to andrew tote don't listen to nick fuentes the answer is be better on these issues like do better
01:03:24.960
provide a better example and a better outlet you want people to act like real men because fuentes and
01:03:30.160
and and and uh and um i'm sorry i just forgot the other one uh tate just because these guys aren't
01:03:36.480
real men okay well then show that like actually do right the reason these guys are winning is because
01:03:41.840
they are providing a narrative you will not address so if you want to if you want to beat them don't
01:03:46.880
sit around complaining about them actually address the issues and do it better than they are
01:03:51.200
check cognition nixon says so now even the indisputable agent uh agent camera video the
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left is still brazenly lying about what happened they cannot be reasoned with they are all t800 androids
01:04:05.360
drive baby drive yeah 100 and that's why ultimately these people have to lose the franchise like you just
01:04:12.400
can't live you can't live with these guys having that level of influence either you need to completely
01:04:16.960
dominate these people or you have to separate them from them but we can't continue to like let
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these people have political power they don't care about reality they don't care about what they see
01:04:26.480
or what the truth is they just care about advancing their narrative no matter what and they will do
01:04:30.960
literally anything including terrorism including lying to the masses riots whatever they need to do
01:04:37.120
so yeah it's that sadly there there is simply no way in which this video itself is going to
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completely stop them though i will say i'm glad that these videos exist because if they didn't
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then the right would just be capitulating on this narrative and the whole thing would be toast
01:04:51.920
right so at least at least here we can give conservatives some spine on this one mostly
01:04:57.520
oh 100 and earlier when i said that you're the narrative the facts don't matter i don't mean
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in an absolute sense i mean in reference to conversations with progressives but clearly and
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uh sort of spoiling it there's a super chat about this i saw come through earlier like
01:05:14.160
body cams have been a great boon uh to conservatives and one of the great ironies of the last 20 years
01:05:20.000
of american politics is how much many of the same people or their ideological predecessors who are
01:05:25.680
opposed to i suppose to law enforcement advocated for body cams because they were absolutely sure that the
01:05:31.280
the moment they had cameras on they would see things from kind of like the fever dreams of you know
01:05:36.960
black nationalists the idea of you know behind the scenes these police officers are all klansmen and
01:05:42.160
you know just looking out to to go hurt people and while again there have been police officers
01:05:48.960
rightfully charged for their actions on camera quite often the footage is disruptive to the official
01:05:56.240
narrative right again there's always going to be bad cops out there when they get caught they should
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absolutely pay their price but like you said the it's really been an 80 20 split on this one right
01:06:06.960
like the vast majority of it has been police officers being vindicated in these situations and
01:06:12.720
good when you catch the 20 that are bad actors you they should be punished i'm glad that that footage is
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there too but overall you're right that that has been you know the left is shooting themselves in the
01:06:22.480
foot over body cams in fact it's only a matter of time before they end up having an anti-body cam
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movement at this point nixon also says the most terrifying aspect of this entire thing is that i
01:06:32.000
have friends family acquaintances who all refuse to accept reality that is on that bid again yeah i i'm
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lucky that i don't have family like that but i do have friends uh who who unfortunately will buy
01:06:42.800
into some of those narratives and that's what i'm saying is like you should have conversations with
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people for no other reason not because you're necessarily going to convince them but you need to
01:06:50.240
us to understand the level of dedication the level of narrative buy-in the level of propaganda that
01:06:56.480
has occurred even with people you know who otherwise seem rational you need to filter your
01:07:01.520
political understandings through those facts author in california says progressives pushing for
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body cams have been one of the greatest self-owns like adding air vents to a submarine
01:07:13.760
it doesn't change their mind but it does show normies how the left does not care about truth and
01:07:18.720
of course we just spent the last five minutes agreeing with you so thank you very much for
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your super chat uh replace my batteries please says the left civil war uh uh now the gop do you
01:07:30.560
have a minute to talk about anti-semitism yeah and look this is what i said again you have arena
01:07:35.840
zarutska and charlie kirk killed in the same week and the right's response is not to riot not to go into
01:07:42.400
the streets it's turn around and debate each other and call everybody an anti-semite that that that's the
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response the left response is to get into the streets of riot now i know a lot of people go
01:07:51.920
out there and they say oh well that's the difference between the right and the left
01:07:54.640
we're morally superior we've got jobs and kids and we got to take care of stuff we don't have time to
01:07:59.280
riot and look i'm obviously not here to tell you to write in fact i've you know repeatedly told you how
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often mass popular political action is a mistake especially in this environment but you need to
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understand that ultimately this response is not a brag for the right this is a liability the left goes out
01:08:14.960
and riots because they can't because they're not going to jail unless they literally get shot in
01:08:20.720
the act of trying to kill a police officer they're likely to pay zero cost for what they do the right
01:08:26.320
goes out once on j6 gets completely destroyed unite the right rally gets destroyed every time the right
01:08:32.000
goes out and has a popular political action they end up completely destroyed when the left does it
01:08:38.320
it's just a celebration people very rarely think there's going to be any issue so you need to
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understand that dynamic going in like again all of these things are true like the right is too busy
01:08:48.400
they are the more responsible party they don't want to seek violence but this is not a flex like
01:08:53.760
the left has a tool a political tool you don't have so you better have a way to counter it you need to
01:08:58.880
come up with a strategy if you can if you yourself are not going to engage in counter political violence
01:09:04.240
and i don't think you should again encouraging you not to do that but if you're not going to do that
01:09:09.760
you need an effective strategy for shutting it down if the left is never going to pay the same
01:09:13.520
cost because right wingers are going to respond with a riot then there needs to be a very severe
01:09:18.000
cost for right there needs to be very severe costs for this domestic terror you can't just sit around
01:09:22.720
and be like oh well maybe we'll slap some guy with six months no like these people need to rot in jail
01:09:28.560
for the rest of their lives when they coordinate or involve themselves in this kind of stuff because if you
01:09:34.000
just let it slide and there's no counter pushback from the right which there just isn't going to be
01:09:38.480
then you're going to continue to see this well and also we just we see the lack of seriousness
01:09:45.680
look like the left has said trump will go to jail hexeth will go to the hague the implication of doxing
01:09:52.800
is clear as we've said before like this is a very real threat and look like you know i realize there
01:09:58.880
are people in the audience who might have differing opinions on the state of israel or on anti-semitism
01:10:03.760
not looking to get the specifics of that but these are different orders of problems for the gop it's
01:10:10.240
the sensible and clearly if you are faced with someone who says i'm going to throw you in jail
01:10:16.080
i'm going to debank you you're going to face war crimes tribunals in the hague that should be a
01:10:21.920
motivation to action right just even selfishly if nothing else and if that's not the case it
01:10:27.680
it honestly bears examination right why are you not serious about this because very clearly they
01:10:34.800
are as we've honestly explained ad nauseam at this point yeah look i'm not looking for revolutions or
01:10:41.760
miracles here i'm just looking for self-preservation like guys just show just show me that you care
01:10:47.040
enough to live through this that you expect your kids like have another generation in this country
01:10:52.640
please for the love of god you know like again i'm not i don't i'm not looking for you know the
01:10:57.360
revanchist uh you know army to march out i'm just just show me that you recognize like that there are
01:11:03.680
consequences to what is happening right now and you'd like to avoid them at some level yeah like a wolf
01:11:09.760
will nods own leg off if it's caught in a trap our republican party won't even just enforce laws as
01:11:17.360
currently on the books when they are in a similar situation it's like you're in charge you're in power
01:11:22.880
you're the guy it's not like it's it's a huge stretch you know it's not like you have no levers
01:11:28.000
to pull and they simply will not they're just scared of the left calling them fascists still
01:11:33.120
to this day like like you said even though it's not even implementing one new law it's simply
01:11:38.000
enforcing the law and it works like the right is so terrified of this charge that they will literally
01:11:42.400
would rather die and just not enforce any of the laws on the books than to go out and have the new
01:11:47.120
york times called the meanie face names it it's sad it's it's incredibly sad that to this point
01:11:52.000
there's literally nothing you can do to invoke any kind of self-preservation inside a large chunk
01:11:56.960
of the conservative movement latrina bidet irs enforcer says lesbian bart simpson phenotype they've
01:12:04.240
never been checked put in their place the their concept of masculinity is forever stuck at male
01:12:08.960
adolescence phase this is why they're so cocky and insufferable that is a great observation actually
01:12:13.440
thank you very much for that so this is a good point one of the reasons they adopt this is like this is
01:12:18.240
the most childish and like surface level understanding of masculinity you can have
01:12:23.200
so like i'm a lesbian i'm not supposed to act like a girl where else do i act like well i don't know how
01:12:28.400
to be like a normal guy i don't know how to act like that but i can be this cartoon it's like uh when
01:12:33.520
british actors try to take on american accents they usually take on southern accents and they play them up
01:12:38.960
as radically as possible uh i don't know if you've seen uh daniel craig as the louisiana detective and uh
01:12:46.240
in those nights out movies but like they just take the like most ridiculous uh attempt at these
01:12:51.280
because like they they don't know how to do a normal like non-regional american accent so the
01:12:56.880
only thing they could do is just lean as cartoonishly into the gimmick as possible and there's a very
01:13:02.080
similar uh thing happening with the lesbians there that's a good observation i will also say
01:13:08.080
you probably noticed me cracking up on i've read that comment like four times and every time i read
01:13:12.880
it makes me laugh it equally like there's a lot of explanatory power there also just funny like you
01:13:18.720
made me laugh so good on you man well done well done only the best audiences around here uh in uh
01:13:24.560
infernal morons i probably pronounced that wrong says emo music is better outlet than ramming ice
01:13:32.000
i don't know man yeah that's a 50 50. i mean at least the emo music will only drag you to your own
01:13:36.000
demise right like you only encourage you with a razor blade in that scenario and not not to harm others maybe
01:13:41.520
uh let's see here orwell goon says the new video is just yuri biznoff saying uh you can uh put genuine
01:13:48.800
authentic information right in front of their faces and they won't believe it amen to that and not uh
01:13:55.440
not i or no i'm not grim uh from red riding hood okay i got there uh always good to see goat jay burden
01:14:03.760
who alongside uh endeavor and word were my entry into this side of things god bless and keep up the good
01:14:10.800
work yeah i haven't seen endeavor in forever but thank you very much that's old head uh insight
01:14:16.000
right there so appreciate you coming by and supporting everything always great to have
01:14:20.480
jay burden on the show all right guys we're gonna wrap this up you could should of course
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