The Auron MacIntyre Show - January 08, 2026


The Truth About White Identity Politics ｜ 1⧸8⧸26

Topics
white identitarianism
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Auron MacIntyre
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Donald Trump Heather McDonald Jacob Savage Jeremy Carl Somalians
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9 minutes

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1,441

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71

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4

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In this episode, Alex Blumberg argues that conservatives should stop lecturing young white Americans about race and start focusing on the behaviors of the communities they currently pander to. He argues that identity is not a binary choice, but a series of nested interests which can be more salient depending on scale.

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00:00:00.000 There's been a lot of panic recently, especially in the conservative commentariat, over the increasing desire expressed by young white Americans to receive representation as a collective political bloc.
00:00:12.200 At some level, this is understandable. Race isn't the healthiest fixation when it comes to understanding identity, but the approach conservative critics have taken is extremely misguided.
00:00:21.520 For decades, whites have watched every other group in America successfully demand political action as a bloc from both the left and the right. 0.53
00:00:30.520 Democrats build their entire party around racial grievance, but even conservatives are quick to speak to the needs of minority communities as a collective group.
00:00:39.960 Despite attacking the concept of identity politics, Republicans are more than happy to cater to them for any group except their core constituency, white Americans.
00:00:49.860 If conservatives are truly worried about the rise in white identitarianism, they need to stop lecturing young white Americans and start addressing the behaviors of the communities they currently pander to.
00:01:02.560 First, it's probably worth defining our terms. Race and ethnicity are often used interchangeably in modern discussion, but they're not the same.
00:01:11.140 Race is a macro category, while ethnicity is more of a particular micro category.
00:01:16.400 Peoples as diverse as the Swedes, Italians, Irish, and French, they're all considered white.
00:01:23.100 And Ethiopians, Nigerians, African pygmies, and Somalians, they're all considered black.
00:01:29.020 Now, these categories like white and black, they certainly mean something.
00:01:32.420 I'm not saying race doesn't exist, but ethnos tends to be a more organic and useful way to understand these groups when you can access it.
00:01:40.320 Now, ironically, ethnocentrism is a characteristic that varies wildly between races and is particularly low among white Europeans and their descendants.
00:01:49.560 If you were to take a United States primarily comprised of residents of European extraction and add some immigrants, you're likely going to have a pretty tolerant and accepting society.
00:02:00.380 Even the new arrivals, who might be predisposed to ethnocentrism, are less likely to maintain it because there's simply not enough of their co-ethnics around to take advantage of the tribal strategy.
00:02:11.200 This means that assimilation is far more likely to occur.
00:02:14.240 It's also important to remember that identity is not a binary, but a series of nested interests which can be more or less salient depending on scale.
00:02:23.780 When societies are small, aspects like tribe and ethnos are often primary.
00:02:29.160 But as civilization grows and needs to include new members, the focus of identity shifts to larger macro characteristics that can encompass more people, like religion.
00:02:38.640 White Americans used to have very defined ethnic conclays with almost exclusively Irish, Italian, Dutch, and German neighborhoods and towns across the United States.
00:02:50.760 In some places, the American government had to work very hard to break the exclusive nature of German communities, all but forcing them to send their children to schools where they would have to learn English.
00:03:01.920 Today, while the echoes of European ethnos still exist in the traditions of many American communities, these groups now fully conceive of themselves as Americans.
00:03:12.680 The problem comes when the government imports large blocks of people into the country who share the same ethnicity and have not gone through this process of scaling up their identity. 0.64
00:03:22.160 These new arrivals have zero problems with ethnocentrism because they can and will leverage that strategy for all its advantages.
00:03:29.800 They see no reason to adopt a different political understanding because their co-ethnics are there to ensure that they'll be elevated by nepotism and never need to assimilate.
00:03:40.240 Employment, education, marriage, and community can all be had almost exclusively inside their ethnic conclave.
00:03:47.900 In a system where one group has to rely on pure individual meritocracy, while the others are allowed to operate on collective ethnocentrism, tribalism wins.
00:04:00.400 Once it reveals itself as the superior strategy, the salience of race skyrockets. 0.61
00:04:06.120 When young whites see everyone else deploying tribalism and winning, they start to ask the obvious question,
00:04:12.560 why are we the only group that's denied the winning strategy?
00:04:16.900 Now, of course, it's not just that tribalism seems to work for all the other groups,
00:04:22.160 but it's also that the system has been explicitly rigged against white males.
00:04:26.960 Jacob Savage's article, The Lost Generation in Compaq magazine,
00:04:30.900 recently made waves by laying out the obscene degree to which universities, media outlets, and corporations
00:04:37.280 have intentionally shut white men out of major institutions.
00:04:41.340 He laid out all of the narrative, but he also laid out the statistics, and they were absolutely staggering.
00:04:48.000 That piece got more attention because it came from a leftist, but conservatives like Jeremy Carle and Heather MacDonald
00:04:54.580 have been warning about the problems for years.
00:04:58.400 Whites, especially young white men, aren't allowed to advocate as a group like everyone else gets to, 0.94
00:05:04.280 but they are allowed to be punished as a group. 0.60
00:05:07.300 Telling them that identity politics is bad, and then sitting by and watching while whites are punished explicitly
00:05:12.600 for their identity is a strategy that will kind of arrive at predictable results.
00:05:17.940 They're going to be resentful.
00:05:19.480 They're going to see the hypocrisy.
00:05:21.660 The response from the conservative movement has been a vague general rebuke of ethnocentrism, 0.84
00:05:27.020 but to only really reject it for whites.
00:05:29.340 They'll pay lip service to opposing identity politics, but they'll pander directly to explicitly racial organizations.
00:05:37.540 Conservatives will say nothing about blacks, Indians, Hispanics, or Jews having prominent racial solidarity organizations.
00:05:45.380 In fact, conservatives will take the leaders of those organizations very seriously,
00:05:50.260 speak to their concerns, and treat them as if they are representatives of their community.
00:05:54.800 Donald Trump recently hosted the American Hindu Jewish Congress,
00:06:00.200 no, I promise, I am not making that name up,
00:06:03.420 at Mar-a-Lago to discuss combating bigotry for both groups.
00:06:08.000 You're not going to see a dinner honoring representatives from the white American Congress to discuss anti-white bigotry,
00:06:14.120 even though we have direct evidence that it's far more widespread of a problem in modern America.
00:06:20.200 That double standard is just too obvious for young white people to keep ignoring forever,
00:06:26.740 especially when they're being treated the way they're being treated.
00:06:30.220 If conservatives were serious about stopping the rise of collective white identity politics, 0.63
00:06:35.920 they would stop lecturing young white people for noticing the obvious.
00:06:40.140 They would instead attack the systemic bias against whites in corporations and academia.
00:06:45.080 To their credit, the Trump administration has started to take action on this issue,
00:06:50.820 though far more needs to be done.
00:06:52.700 This is just the tip of the iceberg.
00:06:55.560 If they were serious, conservatives would initiate an immigration moratorium
00:06:59.040 and would aggressively prosecute ethnic cartels in the United States.
00:07:03.300 Sorry, but every store or tech department with an Indian manager
00:07:06.580 isn't filling open positions with their co-ethnics
00:07:09.440 because there's just no white people who can work on computers in America. 0.96
00:07:13.440 Conservative leaders should be lecturing blacks, Indians, Hispanics, and Jews 0.99
00:07:19.040 just as aggressively as they lecture whites about ethnocentrism.
00:07:23.260 If for no other reason than whites, you know, actually vote for the GOP. 0.60
00:07:27.740 While all these other groups, outside of Hispanic males in the last election,
00:07:31.400 vote overwhelmingly Democrat.
00:07:33.860 If you are really worried about the rising desire for collective white politics,
00:07:39.440 try reducing the number of ethnocentric populations young white people are expected to compete with
00:07:45.480 on pure merit.
00:07:47.380 The only way to reduce the salience of race is to stop importing ethnocentric cultures 1.00
00:07:52.620 and creating political carve-outs for the minority communities that are already here.
00:07:58.160 In short, show young white people that they can succeed without ethnocentrism 0.65
00:08:02.980 by actually addressing and punishing ethnocentrism
00:08:07.100 that is currently practiced by every other group here in the United States.
00:08:12.580 Gather your courage and talk to the minorities
00:08:15.240 who are already practicing the very behavior you claim to fear.
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