The Auron MacIntyre Show - July 31, 2026


Muslims Are Invading Spain (Again) | Guest: Joshua Lisec | 7⧸31⧸26


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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, how's it going? Thanks for joining me this afternoon. I've got a great stream with
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00:01:11.940 it we've seen an absolute deluge of migrants into spain if you haven't been following this
00:01:18.820 spain actually has a socialist president who recently granted them asylum or rather granted
00:01:25.740 them amnesty all these illegals inside of his country and it looks like muslim immigrants have 0.97
00:01:30.840 decided to take advantage of this by storming some of spain's uh territories near morocco the
00:01:38.020 footage is absolutely stunning join me to talk about this is a man who just finished his own book 0.95
00:01:43.500 on the Haitians of Springfield and this phenomenon of these third worlders being used as bioweapons 0.96
00:01:50.020 against countries in the West. Joshua Lysak is a prolific ghostwriter. Thank you so much
00:01:58.240 for joining me, man. It's great to talk to you. It's my pleasure. Thank you very much.
00:02:02.900 So for people who might not be familiar with your work, before we get into our topic here,
00:02:07.560 you're a ghostwriter and you've written all kinds of books for all kinds of different
00:02:11.840 people, businessmen, conservative hosts, politicians, all kinds of things.
00:02:16.260 That's a very interesting industry to get into. Your newest book is your own in your own name,
00:02:20.880 but you've written so many, including great books with my buddy, Jack Sobiak. And so I just want to
00:02:26.840 ask you, what was it like getting into that? What kind of brought you to this point where
00:02:30.400 you said, I'm going to write books for other people for a living? Yes. So when I was a
00:02:36.260 youngster, I was in college, I wanted to be a novelist. That was kind of my great little
00:02:39.760 american dream for myself and lo and behold i'm in college still and i get a two book uh deal
00:02:46.400 a small publishing house two novels in the action adventure uh genre and the interesting thing
00:02:52.420 happened was after i'm going out there promoting the books two people two of my readers independently
00:02:57.620 of each other reach out to me and join the book and saying joshua can you help me write my book
00:03:03.520 since this is what you do can you like help me write my story so they wanted to write a non-fiction
00:03:08.480 you know, autobiography, a memoir that was as interesting as fiction rather than a boring
00:03:14.780 Wikipedia style early life wink wink type of a type of a tale that is rather boring and nobody
00:03:21.080 wants to read. And so I said, OK, I'll write the novelization of your life, let's say. And one
00:03:27.780 nonfiction project led to another. And now here I am. And I've written more than 120 books,
00:03:33.600 full-length nonfiction books at this point yeah that's just an incredible amount of output i mean
00:03:39.420 i've written one book and i'm glad i did it and you know i've got another one in the works but
00:03:43.260 yeah that process for me is just so intense and it takes so much of your focus one of the problems
00:03:49.160 when you're you know trying to do everything else as a media personality is just trying to find that
00:03:53.400 time i don't think i'd ever be able to have somebody ghost write a book for me just because
00:03:57.580 of the way i work but it is very understandable why so many people utilize a service like yours
00:04:03.280 because it is just often you have the ideas, you have the narrative, you have kind of all the key
00:04:09.140 ingredients, but the process of actually putting the words to paper and structure in a way that's
00:04:13.700 entertaining and compelling, those are things that are really time intensive when you're trying to
00:04:17.460 do all these other things. So it is, I think, a very interesting niche that you have filled
00:04:22.760 because I can certainly see why someone in that position would constantly look for a guy like you
00:04:29.520 to be able to take their vision and make it something that they can present to others
00:04:33.680 in a way that kind of raises their prestige, raises the awareness of them,
00:04:38.520 but also communicates key ideas that they want to get across to audiences
00:04:41.900 that otherwise wouldn't be taken seriously if they were just in a podcast or a TV show?
00:04:46.960 Yes, I think so.
00:04:48.660 The type of profession that ghostwriting is,
00:04:51.280 is akin to hiring a professional, let's say, qualified tax preparer.
00:04:55.560 You could do your taxes yourself, but aren't you?
00:04:58.760 Let's say you're a creator, an inventor in some space.
00:05:03.180 Should you prepare your patent paperwork yourself
00:05:05.980 or should you hire a professional with a success rate
00:05:08.060 who knows how to get patents approved?
00:05:10.240 Do-it-yourself, hire the expert.
00:05:12.000 People work with a professional human ghostwriter,
00:05:14.520 I might add, for a similar reason.
00:05:16.740 Although much of what I'm doing much of the time
00:05:19.540 is what we would call developmental editing,
00:05:22.020 where the author has, they have some drafted chapters
00:05:25.700 that they wrote five years ago,
00:05:27.100 but then they want to write in a different direction can they use any of this oh they've
00:05:30.240 given interviews those have transcripts and so many people will actually show up with a body of
00:05:34.820 work and say can you turn this into a book uh and so is not really making things up you know on the
00:05:41.480 part of the ghost writer although there are some agencies like in new york city who will do a
00:05:45.220 turnaround in a you know a book in three to four weeks for public figure and then there have been
00:05:49.740 a number of scandals associated with that where the person goes out gives interviews and doesn't
00:05:53.240 know what's in their own book. That's not my process. I typically work with someone who has
00:05:57.780 a body of work publicly or privately drafted and has just never found what you might consider the
00:06:04.300 universal key of business and personal branding, which is a book. You get taken seriously when
00:06:10.740 people know who you are and you have a literal work in print. As for Jack, I would humbly submit
00:06:17.720 his career as a public figure, if you look at before Unhumans versus after, it is a very
00:06:25.720 different experience, really, for any personal brand who goes and has a published author.
00:06:31.200 Whether it's independently published, maybe find up your own imprint, or you're traditionally
00:06:36.020 published, let's say indie or trad, it doesn't really matter. If the book is good, then people
00:06:41.480 will want to buy it, and now you are known for that space. And in an age of increasingly digital
00:06:47.000 artifacts, having the real deal physically in print, people can hold your life's work in a
00:06:52.760 density where it's all there. That is tremendously important. And that's why I decided to write
00:07:00.020 Haitians of Springfield, by the way. Absolutely. Well, I definitely want to get into your newest
00:07:06.120 book coming out as well. And I think it's going to dovetail so well with our main topic today.
00:07:11.020 So again, for people who might not be familiar with what just happened, the president of Spain
00:07:16.760 is just like horrific and he's this socialist guy who passed amnesty i actually did several
00:07:22.700 episodes on at the time it wasn't highly covered by i think a lot of conservative media but i saw
00:07:27.300 the writing on the wall when this was occurring and the dangers that were present in this and now
00:07:32.700 these have manifested i'm gonna play a little bit of this footage for people who may not have seen
00:07:36.380 it because the footage itself is just stunning it looks like a zombie apocalypse it looks like
00:07:41.240 a world war z movie with people hitting the beach here you can just see the massive chain of people
00:07:49.840 stretching all the way back and we've already confirmed uh to be clear this isn't in spain
00:07:55.340 proper this is i'm not sure exactly how to pronounce it but uh cuta in um morocco uh you
00:08:02.560 know obviously spain still has some land in north africa that it controls very small uh areas uh
00:08:09.040 But this is all coming. Once they're inside Spanish territory, they are subject to a lot of the EU kind of riders on how Spain works.
00:08:20.320 And so this is fascinating because we've already seen nine people die in the rioting. 0.99
00:08:25.340 There's lots more footage of kind of these Muslim immigrants coming in waves, ripping people's doors, windows open, climbing up into apartments, these kind of things. 1.00
00:08:36.020 it really does look like just this mass zombie horde invasion and you know obviously as you were 0.99
00:08:42.320 saying you wrote that book uh on humans with jack and part of it was talking i believe about
00:08:49.400 the experience of spain and what has happened there the spanish civil war is a particularly
00:08:54.280 fascinating topic that i've discussed at length uh on this show because i think there's just so
00:08:59.960 much for us to learn from it but ultimately it's really amazing that despite uh spain going on this 0.52
00:09:06.500 like 700 year reconquista to drive uh the muslim invaders out of spain proper by 1492 uh they were 0.91
00:09:14.880 getting the last of them out of there and then obviously you had francisco franco uh you know 0.93
00:09:19.500 just you know a brutal civil war and you know dozens of years of rule by franco trying to stop
00:09:25.580 the communists in that country. But ultimately, we still see both the Muslims and the communists 0.95
00:09:31.320 kind of coming back together to destroy Spain. So when you're watching this footage and with 0.91
00:09:36.700 the familiarity that you have with the subject, what are you thinking in this moment?
00:09:41.520 Well, what I'm thinking is that it's not expected that there be some people are calling it the red,
00:09:46.840 green, brown alliance, you know, this sort of alliance between between and among and specifically
00:09:52.580 an anti-West, explicitly anti-white alliance between communists, Marxists, democratic socialists,
00:10:00.360 whatever label they tend to use. Some want to go left faster than others. You might call them
00:10:05.900 neo-Mensheviks, neo-Bolsheviks. I have another book coming out about that in a few months. I
00:10:10.400 have all the books, guys. I write all the books. It's great. And between them and the progressives
00:10:17.440 who simply focus on left-wing causes
00:10:20.380 that could be all over the place,
00:10:21.800 from culture warfare to go green and energy initiatives
00:10:25.200 to anti-economic measures
00:10:27.260 that cause contraction of the economy
00:10:29.040 and send taxpayers elsewhere.
00:10:30.960 And then, of course, the global South, 0.83
00:10:32.820 which is a largely non-Western, un-Westernized, 1.00
00:10:37.580 I think in many cases, uniquely unassimilatable horde, 0.99
00:10:41.840 who in many cases, I happen to know,
00:10:43.820 because I've ghostwritten books
00:10:44.860 from probably 80 countries, authors at this point.
00:10:48.220 It's a vast body of work.
00:10:50.000 And what I have learned directly from leaders
00:10:53.060 within the Arab world and the Islamic world,
00:10:55.260 and they are very explicit about this, by the way,
00:10:57.740 more so privately than publicly,
00:10:59.980 but one of their criminal justice strategies 1.00
00:11:03.160 is to flush out the dregs of their societies 0.93
00:11:07.620 into the open air prison for them called Europe. 0.79
00:11:12.000 yeah this is a technique that donald trump obviously highlighted when he said they're
00:11:19.260 not sending our best right they're sending their rapists they're sending uh their drug dealers
00:11:23.840 they're sending their criminals they're emptying their psych wards and sending them into the
00:11:28.480 united states but of course as you say it's not just the united states it's europe as well 0.95
00:11:32.580 and so when we talk about these migrants it's become very very clear that obviously they are
00:11:37.440 not economic migrants. They're not wars from, you know, uh, they're, they're not running from war
00:11:42.600 or danger either. Like ultimately these people are just invaders. Uh, they're just people who
00:11:47.760 have been expelled. You know, the worst of the worst from their country who does not want them
00:11:51.620 anymore. They're not sending us doctors. They're not sending us scholars. They're not sending us
00:11:55.140 rocket scientists. Uh, they're not even sending us like good day laborers. They're sending the
00:12:00.300 absolute dregs of their society, criminals who are going to come, they're going to flood these
00:12:04.720 nations they're going to terrorize these nations and so you know i i am a little careful about the 0.73
00:12:10.980 red green alliance because for me i i understand that framing for me it's a danger of trying to
00:12:17.160 make things ideological again well it's it's the western values versus uh you know what these
00:12:22.340 values well it's not just the values it's the people as you say it's the people themselves
00:12:25.960 that are truly you know bringing this chaos it is anti-white these people do show up with a hatred
00:12:31.780 of westerners of whites of european descent and ultimately uh that is the motivating factor the 0.89
00:12:38.600 ideology the communism the islam you know the only reason there's any alliance here at all is just 0.98
00:12:44.320 it's people who want to destroy uh you know the west europe you know uh the white civilizations 0.97
00:12:49.840 in the world like that's very obviously uh kind of the motivation behind this now when you see 0.94
00:12:56.620 a socialist again given the long history uh that that spain has battled back against both islam 0.79
00:13:03.000 and socialism when you see such an investment by people who should know better who who have 0.98
00:13:09.480 seen all the brutality and all the horrific uh consequences of embracing both of these groups
00:13:14.740 both these ideologies when you see them still go back to the trough and kind of drink deeply of
00:13:20.680 this destructive uh you know kind of idea what does that tell you that there that you know these
00:13:26.820 people who have been through all of this were still willing to basically just become you know
00:13:31.480 brain dead libs the minute that it was you know fashionable and they threw their their borders
00:13:36.380 back open and got exactly what everybody including yourself and i would have predicted
00:13:40.340 i i think you're right that it's not ideologically motivated or philosophically motivated i think it's
00:13:46.660 It's more so an alliance of common enemies because eventually, and we talk about this in the book with some, let's say, Cold War era collaboration and then enmity among and between communists and Islamic theocratic dictatorships.
00:14:06.340 They are friends until they absolutely are not.
00:14:08.560 And then it's a vie for power.
00:14:09.540 That's every left wing alliance.
00:14:11.960 It's the snake that eats itself we talk about.
00:14:14.500 Now, on this matter, the prior election, prior to the Spanish Civil War beginning in 36,
00:14:19.720 okay, the prior election, socialists were victorious.
00:14:23.100 And it was a number of months before the consequences of that came to bear.
00:14:27.560 And one of their allowances, the socialist government, they allowed via the typical
00:14:33.640 anarcho-tyranny of selective over-policing versus under-policing, the allowance of the
00:14:38.860 punishing of their political enemies, the usual friend-enemy distinction that so many
00:14:43.500 people will hop on me the likes of me and jack uh you know they'll hop on over us for saying oh
00:14:49.180 you're saying we should be just like the leftists and it's like well we are their enemies and we
00:14:53.900 have our friends and they're they're playing a game to win uh you you take your principles and
00:14:59.040 and shove them i would rather win and and not be slaughtered okay you do your thing on this matter
00:15:04.760 after the socialists were victorious they allowed basically you might call them and we talk about
00:15:10.380 this in the chapter in the Inhumans book. You could call them guerrillas. You could call them
00:15:15.700 anarchists. You could call them communists, but they were basically roving bands of thugs is what
00:15:23.460 they were. Pillaging, raping, murdering. They were doing all the things all throughout Spain, 1.00
00:15:28.540 and they were specifically targeting two types of people. They were targeting small business
00:15:32.820 owners, shopkeepers, landlords, okay, and then the openly religious, which would be clergy,
00:15:38.200 priests, monks, nuns, worshipers, you know, let's say at mass and such. And those are the groups of
00:15:45.020 people that they were specifically targeting, targeting cash money and Christ. And so it was
00:15:50.840 very much evolved into an anti-Christian, anti-Catholic, anti-capitalist, even with like 0.98
00:15:58.540 your, you know, your Kulaks, right? The small business owner, the barely middle class that 0.99
00:16:03.280 was allowed at that time to exist that's who they targeted and assaulted with you know with the
00:16:09.460 enablement of the socialist government and then the chaos spread and it came worse and worse and
00:16:15.220 worse and then of course were the mass murders uh it got to the point that someone had to just do
00:16:21.580 something and francisco franco not not even in uh peninsular spain at that time volunteered uh to
00:16:27.960 just simply stop. And one of my favorite quotes of his translated into English at the very beginning
00:16:33.880 of the war was, wherever I am, there will be no communism. And what I appreciate about him as a
00:16:42.700 figure, as a role model even, which again is like, oh, you can't say that. I will say the things you
00:16:47.320 can't say he backed up word with deed and he kept socialists out of power for 40 years which if you
00:16:58.540 understand his position military dictatorship is that a good way to describe his rule yeah yeah
00:17:04.380 yeah it is it was a military dictatorship guys okay you caught me hands open okay and he kept
00:17:10.800 spain's socialists that day for 40 years yep and then he dies and what happens the socialists come
00:17:16.240 roaring on back and approximately 50 years later you have these scenes where they they want to do
00:17:22.480 you know um invitation of of uh and ending the hordes into their land and it's obviously not
00:17:29.160 refugees it's young military age males older teens early 20s maybe mid 20s it looks like 0.93
00:17:35.260 it's all it's all men it's all men and then you wonder is there a biological phenomenon happening
00:17:41.160 here with a political uh let's say disguise and then suddenly we're talking about the gender
00:17:46.460 slop wars i think it's just incredible to watch people as you say completely ignore everything
00:17:56.080 that franco tried to stop and return exactly back to this devastating moment i think this is i think
00:18:03.560 a theme i think through the book that you and jack had but also i just a good thing for people
00:18:07.680 understand as well. Yes, communism is an ideology. It does have an economic theory and all these
00:18:13.920 things. But at the end of the day, communism is really a force. It's the entropic force of the
00:18:19.440 left, the enemy of society, the enemy of mankind, the enemy of civilization, always looking to
00:18:26.080 destroy it, always looking to tear it down. And communism is the current ideological manifestation
00:18:31.520 of that impulse in humanity but has existed since the beginning of time you know this is this is
00:18:38.040 like a garden of eden problem uh so while we can argue against the economics and everything that
00:18:43.820 is evil about communism to be clear this is why people i think misunderstand like zora mom danny
00:18:49.000 they say oh well uh how is he you know creating price controlled uh grocery stores in new york
00:18:55.740 this is it's failed everywhere it's been tried you know the don't they know the arguments that
00:19:00.240 against socialism and the answer is yes man but they don't care because the socialism is just a
00:19:05.320 way to loot you it's just a way to destroy your civilization it's a wealth transfer 0.73
00:19:09.680 from the heritage americans to the third worlders who are being brought in to support this and no 0.99
00:19:15.700 amount of like logical arguments against communism are going to resolve this problem you know my my 0.59
00:19:20.660 buddy josh apatoy got in some trouble for saying that america needs a protestant franco uh but i
00:19:26.100 think it's increasingly clear that, you know, whether it's guys like you and Jack or myself or
00:19:30.520 others, it's time to rehabilitate the reputation of Francisco Franco and what happened there and
00:19:36.580 his role in, you know, at least holding off this devastating fate for Spain. Because if you think
00:19:43.680 that Franco is the worst outcome, you're entirely wrong. You need to understand the Spanish civil
00:19:48.700 more or more thoroughly because there was a much, much worse outcome. And if America doesn't get
00:19:54.920 things together and understand where things are going, it might require a Franco type figure in 0.91
00:19:59.340 order to stop the insanity that we're heading towards. So if people really do care about the 0.72
00:20:04.020 American tradition and our current way of government, and they don't want a Franco to 0.94
00:20:07.220 be necessary, they should probably take lessons from exactly the kind of thing that you wrote
00:20:10.680 about. Yes, I think a takeaway also from the Franco song is that the socialists won the election
00:20:17.540 before that. Ultimately, what happens with left-wing promises is a bit of a bait-and-switch
00:20:25.420 to get people to show up and vote for them and support them and then do what they really want. 0.74
00:20:30.460 Abigail Spanberger, we saw the exact same thing in Virginia, gets elected and in office she begins 0.97
00:20:35.260 doing what they always do every single time. And the issue that the principal conservatives will 0.96
00:20:42.340 bring up is, well, of course it never works, never makes sense on paper, the math. Every
00:20:46.580 every condemnation of left-wing strategy and tactics is an endorsement of it from the left-wing
00:20:53.340 perspective. This is why I am advising whoever is going to listen on the establishment right
00:20:59.360 within the Republican Party and conservative influencers, stop saying socialism, socialism,
00:21:04.760 socialism, and democratic socialism, oh, and economic Marxism, and all these things.
00:21:08.380 That's for us to comprehend. But when you point out he's giving away free groceries and then say,
00:21:13.980 oh no that look that socialism that's actually an endorsement our negative reviews are their
00:21:19.700 positive reviews because it's like of course it doesn't make sense on paper of course the mass
00:21:23.760 doesn't make sense i am stealing from your people and rewarding my people that is i think some like
00:21:30.280 chris rufo have called that a third world ism where this let's say and i observed this with
00:21:36.100 the haitian influx into springfield ohio which of course written about where they're they're they're
00:21:41.920 They're an underdeveloped, I think Donald Trump has called them a fourth world culture.
00:21:46.360 Their culture is ethno-narcissistic in that the world revolves around being Haitian and
00:21:52.520 the identity and we're the best and we're the first and we're awesome and Haitian, Haitian, 0.73
00:21:56.220 we've got to bring Haiti and our customs and our food and our music and our language and
00:21:59.700 everything everywhere we go. 0.50
00:22:00.700 It's sort of a cultural conquest, an irregular warfare that occurs with a mass influx of 1.00
00:22:05.500 Haitians. 0.94
00:22:06.300 Springfield was conquered.
00:22:07.360 This is what they tell me, the people that I've interviewed.
00:22:09.560 the oral history, it's called, pun intended because it's a dad joke and I'm a father and
00:22:13.720 this is what we have to do. It's required. The influx into Springfield, they brought
00:22:19.960 their ethno-narcissism, yet it's a low trust culture for each other. The number of scams
00:22:27.280 that they've run on each other, using various loopholes, finding ways to circumvent the law,
00:22:33.180 skirt the law harm one another to an extent that you can only imagine and then you realize is true 1.00
00:22:40.140 when you look at why is haiti such a mess uh that's because that's where haitians live yeah 1.00
00:22:45.900 and and and then you realize like what stephen miller said to paraphrase a good way to think 1.00
00:22:50.060 about mass migration is what kind of culture have migrants created in their society and would you
00:22:55.020 like that in yours uh and that's just simply the way that it is if you have in the case of morocco
00:23:02.140 I have friends who actually live in Morocco, and the hilarity of it is they're NPR Americans with the Daesh, and talk about how it's such a progressive and welcoming culture, Islamic, and they have the king has the goat sacrifices in the blood, and it's like, what the hell are you talking, people? 0.65
00:23:19.580 And this is primitive.
00:23:21.200 But they'll talk about how it's so safe, and it's so wonderful, and it's so relatively progressive, and there's not nearly as much crime as in other places in America.
00:23:30.880 and it's like yeah because they're shipping their troublemakers outside and up north and elsewhere
00:23:36.260 into the world and as i said before this is a strategy and tactics that i would say my arab 0.72
00:23:42.740 clients have done a little bit of gloating uh islamic clients have done some gloating to me 0.99
00:23:46.680 privately it's like how stupid can you westerners be you white people they always make it racial 1.00
00:23:51.480 they do they do really do but you don't see color says the boomer but color sees you says joshua 1.00
00:23:56.680 and the fact of the matter is they see you as a victim as a potential victim as someone who's
00:24:04.020 too trusting naive and deserving of anything bad that happens to you let's say the christian
00:24:10.260 values that have unfortunately been worn as a skin suit by progressives social justice warriors
00:24:14.640 at all whatever you want to call them they say these things love your neighbor as yourself look 0.62
00:24:20.400 this moroccan gentleman who's committed five sexual assaults in the past week in morocco 0.58
00:24:25.000 he's your neighbor now. The Bible says to love him. And when he does what he does to you, 0.99
00:24:29.780 turn the other cheek and forgive, or otherwise you're a racist. And that's what happened in
00:24:34.860 Springfield, Ohio happens everywhere. The hordes are unleashed. It's really something.
00:24:41.020 Hungry now. Now. What about now? Whenever it hits you, wherever you are, grab an O. Henry bar to
00:24:53.280 satisfy your hunger with its delicious combination of big, crunchy, salty peanuts covered in creamy
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00:25:05.900 today. O'Henry, O'Henry. Well, and I think that this is a great observation because, you know,
00:25:13.760 this is something I've been trying to communicate to conservatives for years now, is that a culture
00:25:18.460 is its people they are the same thing people don't magically adopt your culture when they step onto
00:25:23.920 the dirt they keep their culture because they built that culture and it goes wherever they go
00:25:29.380 the nation is its people so when you move haiti into the united states when you move uh you know 0.65
00:25:34.980 the north africa into spain those people bring that culture with them they don't become spanish
00:25:40.100 they don't become american they bring their values and beliefs with them as you say they
00:25:44.580 maintain that ethno-narcissism and to be fair to these people we can call it third world but the 0.70
00:25:49.940 truth is this is just what non-christian civilizations have looked like through all of 0.52
00:25:54.500 history it really is only christianity that allowed people to break out of a really really
00:26:00.080 deep and distrustful tribal mindset and cooperate at larger scale and this is one of the reasons i
00:26:05.960 believe that christianity and western countries have been so successful is they were always able
00:26:11.380 to cooperate, work together, build systems, economies, alliances at levels that other 0.98
00:26:16.880 third world, you know, kind of primitive civilizations were not able to because they 0.98
00:26:20.800 were so busy with their selfish fighting. I have a friend who was a public relations guy in 0.86
00:26:26.480 Afghanistan for the military. His job was basically to go in and bribe the guys with
00:26:30.540 goats to keep them from blowing up our troops. And when he would go in, the first thing that
00:26:35.680 every tribal leader would do would take all of the money that they gave and build a road to their
00:26:41.060 dad's house and there's all these things you know he didn't understand he said you know he's talking
00:26:44.740 to his translator and he's like look they could do anything they could build septic systems they
00:26:48.580 could uh you know build uh farms you know they could they could buy animals to to sustain their
00:26:53.760 tribe like they could do all these things for the general good but they immediately instead pour
00:26:58.180 every dollar into this really unnecessary thing to benefit their father and everyone around them
00:27:05.940 agrees with that by the way like that's the people don't hate them for that they love that they think
00:27:10.360 that is how you should behave. You should have that intense, selfish behavior for you and yours
00:27:16.040 and not better the community because those are just not their values. And you can't impose those
00:27:21.100 on people. You can't transfer that belief onto someone else. And when you don't have that
00:27:26.640 mentality, when you have not seen other cultures in the way that they truly view things, you just
00:27:30.860 kind of impose your Western liberal understanding of the world onto them. But as you say, Christianity
00:27:36.920 has its limits. There was always that cooperation, but it was still understood that the Christian
00:27:41.760 had to first care for the people of their nation, of their family, that yes, they could cooperate
00:27:48.540 with others, but they had an immediate duty of subsidiarity to the people around them and the
00:27:52.920 people who relied on them. And today liberals have inverted that entirely and said, no, your duty is
00:27:57.700 always to the other. Your duty is to destroy your community, to abandon your community, to betray
00:28:02.360 your community, just like Spain is doing now. These people didn't invite themselves in, and 0.96
00:28:06.960 they certainly didn't give themselves amnesty. Instead, that Christian virtue is entirely 0.89
00:28:10.960 inverted, and you hate the family. You hate the familiar. You hate the things you're actually 0.86
00:28:16.160 supposed to be protecting. And instead, you spent all of your time, all of your energy,
00:28:21.020 all of your wealth trying to basically bring in foreigners to destroy exactly what you have been 0.98
00:28:26.660 charged by God to protect. Yes, I'm thinking actually about the, I believe it's called the 1.00
00:28:32.260 Great Commission in each of the Gospels where Jesus Christ is commissioning the disciples
00:28:39.280 slash apostles.
00:28:40.720 And I believe if I'm quoting it correctly, I'm sure you might get me on this. 0.92
00:28:43.880 He said something to the effect of bringing the good news to Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria,
00:28:49.300 and the uttermost parts of the earth.
00:28:50.900 Something like that.
00:28:52.240 And that is the heat map meme of John Haidt that he's talking about.
00:28:56.340 It's like first this, then this, then this, then this.
00:29:00.200 It's not this sort of start outwards and go as far away as possible.
00:29:03.440 And if you even look at the church planting of that time, it does seem to sort of follow that process of starting where you are first.
00:29:10.700 And the great irony, of course, is in your culture and in your religious experiences, you might know all the stereotypes of a pastor's kid.
00:29:19.120 Everyone who has a Christian background, Protestant Christian background, knows exactly what we mean by pastor's kid. 0.92
00:29:23.580 it tends to be the uttermost try hard or that backfires and and they become like the worst 1.00
00:29:30.940 behaving most sinful even uh criminally charged individual in the entire church congregation
00:29:37.480 for that reason and it's and because there's a sense of neglect of the spiritual let's say
00:29:42.900 formation of their own child focusing on everyone else so this is regularly an issue in christendom
00:29:48.160 I think, and I grew up in an evangelical background, and I have termed this a martyrdom fetish.
00:29:55.900 I get a lot of flack for this, and yet it's mostly because it's offensive, not because it's wrong,
00:29:59.960 and it certainly is offensive. That's why I say it, because I think it draws some real focus here.
00:30:04.340 There would regularly be people that we would bring into the church, church planners, missionaries,
00:30:08.480 etc., who would go into, let's say, these utterly primitive, dangerous places in the world,
00:30:15.100 you know level three and level four advisory do not travel from the state department level countries 0.91
00:30:20.860 and they bring the wife they bring the kids and the baby a wife's pregnant 0.75
00:30:25.400 and this utterly primitive society and he would be like an accomplished doctor or something like 0.99
00:30:30.440 that and let's let's go live in the jungle of sri lanka where where christians are found 0.61
00:30:35.260 beheaded let's go to these places where we might get killed and there's a thrill associated with
00:30:42.000 that and then we get to live vicariously by supporting these hopeful future martyrs here 0.91
00:30:47.480 and i know that sounds slightly offensive and kind of insane and yet that is without exaggeration 1.00
00:30:53.060 what happens let's go live amongst the dangerous brown people and give you as much money as we can 1.00
00:30:58.520 in order to do that and then they come back with the stories and it's like a highlight reel 1.00
00:31:02.260 you know early powerpoint i recall this from the megachurch i was a part of and then other
00:31:06.580 communities including schools uh like here we were we were raided by the government out here
00:31:11.980 are kids with their hands tied behind their back and just are you what and it's like okay and here's
00:31:18.060 how you can write make checks out too yeah it was it was like a martyrdom industrial complex
00:31:23.200 and when i have grown up a bit and i observe the religious and the political and spiritual
00:31:29.520 components of this behavior i understand why a christian like mike dewine wants tens of thousands
00:31:36.060 of Haitians in
00:31:37.340 Ohio. He lives
00:31:40.180 near Springfield, Ohio, by the way, just a short
00:31:42.160 drive away. Having as many
00:31:43.980 let's say unassimilated 1.00
00:31:45.940 third world people who aren't white, that's 1.00
00:31:48.040 always key. There's a little bit of that virtue,
00:31:50.060 civil rights era activism,
00:31:52.060 baby boomer, we can all just get along, kumbaya,
00:31:54.200 John Lennon's Imagine Lyrics
00:31:55.440 in every single baby boomer, right and
00:31:58.060 left, Governor DeWine's Republican.
00:32:00.540 They just feel really good about
00:32:02.000 themselves. And there's
00:32:03.940 here indicating that if you do things that are to your own expense, specifically to your family's
00:32:11.420 expense, to your own race's expense, there's research on this. I cite in Haitians of Springfield.
00:32:17.420 If you engage in those, let's say, heat map mean behaviors of prioritizing the other first, 1.00
00:32:25.080 if you engage in those behaviors, there is a biochemical release of endorphins that result
00:32:30.920 in you actually feeling better. You feel neurochemically a moral superiority that's
00:32:40.640 actually measurable in people's bodies. And I think that liberals, Republicans, Democrats alike,
00:32:47.060 who put Haiti first or put Syria first or Afghanistan or what have you, I feel that they
00:32:53.480 have become addicted to that neurochemical release of that dopamine, the endorphins and the oxytocin 0.98
00:32:59.300 of look how much better I am than those other white people for bringing all the brown people 1.00
00:33:03.400 and black people into my neighborhood to eat the cats. Oops. You know, I have grown up as a 1.00
00:33:09.740 evangelical, lifelong evangelical Christian. So I can say this with experience. I think you're
00:33:15.240 exactly right. You know, and this has been a huge criticism that I've had, even though, you know,
00:33:20.720 I'm, you know, very loyal to my religion and my church. You know, I very much see this phenomenon
00:33:26.940 and the fact that so much of America is now unchurched, that there are so many people in
00:33:32.420 America that need Christ, that need that message, that need the help and the care of Christian
00:33:38.200 churches. And yet they get so much more excited, as you say, to fund a bunch of people to go to
00:33:43.920 Africa or China or something like that. It's like, look, I get it. All the nations of the world,
00:33:49.020 as you say, eventually, right? Once we build out that order tomorrow, that those concentric
00:33:54.260 circles of duty and love that we're supposed to have yes we do eventually get to all the nations
00:33:58.440 world but not until we have saved our own and our own family our own friends and i think in so many
00:34:04.020 especially you look at you know kind of boomer christianity it's like they couldn't save their
00:34:07.660 kids so they decided to save kids in africa you know uh we we see this of course you know a lot
00:34:12.800 of people have pointed to uh amy barrett uh when it comes to kind of her you know 14th amendment
00:34:17.560 rulings and everything and the fact that she has children from africa you can just see like it 0.99
00:34:21.560 it feels like she cannot prioritize America because she's bought into this idea of, you know,
00:34:27.400 we should be putting all of our time, all of our effort, all of our empathy towards
00:34:30.980 those who are foreign. And I just think this is a major failing. Again, it's not that those people 1.00
00:34:35.420 don't need Jesus. It's not that they shouldn't be witnessed or cared for. It's just that ultimately
00:34:39.640 you have a primary duty to those around you first. And when you're ignoring that duty,
00:34:44.020 if you're letting your children starve so you can feed other people's children, if you're inviting
00:34:48.640 bringing dangerous men into your home so they could sleep next to your kids, because that's 0.88
00:34:53.580 what you should do as a Christian. No, you have failed. You failed as a father. You failed as a 0.86
00:34:57.300 parent. You failed as a member of your community. That is not Christlike behavior. That is a failure
00:35:01.980 to be a good Christian as a parent, as a member of your community. That said, I do want to make 0.98
00:35:07.920 sure we talk about your book here while we still have some time. So obviously we kind of all have
00:35:14.020 this idea of what happened with the number of Haitians brought into Springfield, Ohio,
00:35:18.840 it's very clear that the Biden administration was using kind of these temporary protected status
00:35:24.860 migrants to come in and shift demographically. It's just demographic warfare. There's no other
00:35:29.740 way to explain it. We want fewer white people in Ohio. We know that's going to shift the voting. 1.00
00:35:34.140 We know it's going to be a terror to the community. We want to hurt these people for not holding our
00:35:38.540 values and looking the wrong way. And so we're going to drop these people off. We got the dogs
00:35:43.760 and the cats and the memes, the songs, everything, Donald Trump talking about it on stage, I think
00:35:49.180 an important moment in that campaign. So it definitely played a moment. But what's happened
00:35:53.540 so often is that then we just move on. Then we just forget those communities. They were a sound
00:35:58.840 bite. They were part of the news cycle. And then they disappear. But this hasn't disappeared. The
00:36:03.200 Haitians are still in Springfield. They're still impacting it. So tell me about what you found 1.00
00:36:07.780 writing this book. What's the situation? How do the citizens feel about that? How do they view
00:36:12.200 what's going on right now. Springfield, Ohio was Haitian, and it's now a verb. The official
00:36:20.260 estimates are between 10,000 and 15,000, something like that. Maybe, maybe, maybe you'll get up to 20.
00:36:27.300 The locals whom I've termed an open source intelligence network, because that's exactly
00:36:32.480 what they are. The OSINT is the proper acronym. These are not backwater Appalachian hillbillies,
00:36:40.440 as they're so often made out to be, who are barely not homeless.
00:36:43.760 Okay, that's sort of the Springfield stereotype.
00:36:45.800 And it is very much, I'm not saying this, 0.98
00:36:47.900 but I'm saying that the white trash label, 0.98
00:36:51.060 all the stereotypes of that label, 0.99
00:36:52.780 which I do not accept as it's anti-white,
00:36:55.420 it has been used to describe
00:36:57.320 and to visually persuade public opinion
00:36:59.900 against the people of Springfield.
00:37:02.240 And so they have been granted the same beliefability
00:37:05.320 with the two following claims
00:37:06.840 by the mainstream media, local, national, and international. Oh, so you say that you saw
00:37:14.360 Haitians at Snyder Park in Springfield, and they were scooping up ducks, mallards,
00:37:22.780 Pekin ducks, and geese, Canadian geese. You say that you saw this, and I bet after that, 0.99
00:37:28.180 you saw Bigfoot, didn't you? That is, without any type of exaggeration,
00:37:36.320 the level of believability that's granted to these people in Springfield. Now, I will point out
00:37:41.260 the sorts of people I interview that are part of this network, they have been public school
00:37:46.060 teachers. They include attorneys. They include members of the county and state Republican party.
00:37:52.440 They include elected officials. They include first responders and law enforcement, a number
00:37:57.000 of whistleblowers who might have to keep anonymous because they will lose everything because that's
00:38:00.420 the threat that's been placed upon them by both the city and the media together, the threat of
00:38:05.360 doxing them and their kids. Very real. It's happened. People lost jobs. People lost businesses.
00:38:10.380 People became estranged from family members, divorces, estrangement of children, like moving
00:38:15.420 across the country to abandon things. It was a crisis that was forced upon these people. I fully
00:38:22.320 believe it's because it's a largely white conservative Christian county. They didn't dump
00:38:28.220 as many as 35,000, the OSINT tells me, as many as 35,000. They didn't dump them in Trotwood,
00:38:34.920 Ohio, which is almost 80% black. They didn't put them in the west side or the north side 0.89
00:38:40.980 of Dayton, Ohio. Again, very, let's say, vibrant urban areas, shall we say. They looked at where's
00:38:49.700 one of the whitest cities in all of Ohio? Springfield, let's put them there. And you have
00:38:55.700 someone like Governor DeWine aiding and abetting that. Of course, with his luxury beliefs, he
00:39:03.000 doesn't live in springfield he lives one town over in yellow springs famously from yellow springs uh
00:39:09.320 very very very close by short drive but just a distance so that you can benefit from feeling
00:39:13.560 morally superior and kind of biochemically getting off on that without exaggeration
00:39:19.640 but don't actually have to experience the downsides of all the traffic accidents and the
00:39:24.200 domesticated animal reports and and and the mutilation and and slaughter of animals happening
00:39:29.480 in broad daylight and in public which of course does actually happen uh and all of the issues
00:39:34.840 that have been presented to the people of springfield and and what entrepreneurs and
00:39:39.000 small business owners there locally including landlords have told me is this was a vulnerable
00:39:44.760 white population working class post-industrial society that was hollowed out lost about 20 000
00:39:49.880 people as a direct result of nafta so nafta over the next 10 years the city lost 20 000 people as
00:39:58.200 direct result the jobs disappearing you know and then you have the opioid crisis you have hopelessness
00:40:02.680 you have the poverty and crime cycle it's it's just a real it's a real mess uh and yet during
00:40:08.120 its first trump administration springfield was on the come up new factories announced expansions
00:40:13.880 thousands of jobs announced revitalization of downtown focus on both with the police of the
00:40:20.840 city and the county sheriffs and the sheriff deputies making it safe to be in public in
00:40:25.800 in Springfield and some of these very nice areas are great to go. And I brought my kids
00:40:29.740 there many, many times. I live next door in Dayton, next to Springfield. And it's about
00:40:33.520 20 minutes from where I live to downtown Springfield, to City Hall, which I've been there
00:40:38.040 many times. You can count it. And as a result of all of this success during the first Trump
00:40:45.640 administration, Biden gets in and the Biden New Yorkist plan is it seems to be, and there's not
00:40:52.340 some, let's say, explicitly public anti-white vast conspiracy, it's sort of an alignment of
00:40:59.920 interests and anti-interests, of simply reward friends and punish enemies. And Springfield was
00:41:07.140 an enemy and therefore had to be punished by media, by the city, by all of the woke,
00:41:13.500 you know, both evangelical and progressive mainline Christians, by all of the forces
00:41:19.760 aligned against the interests of the white working class and it is explicitly race or racial and the
00:41:26.780 great irony is there are not any racists to be found among the white people of Springfield they 0.69
00:41:32.480 are the baby boomers who tell me they don't see color how it's oh it's not about race oh this 0.77
00:41:37.880 would be an issue if it was people from Norway or Ireland and I'm thinking really really so they're 0.96
00:41:43.740 going through this prostration, this, I promise you I'm not racist, but here's what I saw. Here's
00:41:50.020 what happened to me. This is the incident, but I promise I'm not saying that because I'm racist.
00:41:55.340 Actually, can you take my name off of that? I'm going to get called racist. I'll lose my job.
00:41:59.280 Over and over, Aaron, that happened. Over and over and over. So many people would come forward
00:42:03.220 and they want to share their story. And I'd read them the transcript after and they're like,
00:42:06.560 I will lose everything. My husband will divorce me if it comes. Like, it's that bad. It's that
00:42:11.120 bad fortunately there have been enough people who simply don't care or they've suffered enough they
00:42:16.640 were punished in 2024 after the kamala harris uh donald trump debate on eating the cats and the
00:42:22.400 dogs they were punished enough then and now they're so demoralized they have nothing left
00:42:27.660 to lose and they're coming out and they're sharing publicly what happened what was done to them it's
00:42:33.320 It's as if war happened in Springfield.
00:42:39.900 That, I think, is the closest description.
00:42:42.020 They describe it as an invasion.
00:42:44.460 People say they have been prisoners in their own homes.
00:42:47.660 They're unsafe in public, alone, or going out at night.
00:42:51.620 Of course, there have been a number of deaths associated 1.00
00:42:54.000 as a direct result of the Haitian influx
00:42:56.320 that have happened to people in Ohio.
00:42:58.420 And the way that I think about this is 0.93
00:43:00.140 the correct number of ohioans killed by haitians is zero every number above that is intent of 1.00
00:43:07.800 policy because because the purpose of the system is what it does and a system that has haitians
00:43:15.240 killing ohioans is a system that's doing as it was designed to do even if there were not two or
00:43:21.180 three people in a room grabbing their hands uh saying we need to send them to ohio but but there
00:43:27.420 have been known organizations such as catholic charities which one of the reports was when
00:43:34.960 about 15 000 haitians came to del rio texas in september 2021 after biden invited the caravans
00:43:41.100 america's had the fences cut down and you can just come over and be free in america technically
00:43:45.400 you're an illegal alien but because we like let you in temporary protected status now hits you
00:43:52.020 can sign up for that and so you're an illegal immigrant but temporary protected status tps
00:43:57.680 protects you from deportation it's like schrodinger's immigrant where they're both legal and
00:44:02.800 illegal at the same time you have illegally immigrated but tps means ice can't deport you
00:44:08.040 that's this and and also you can get um like short-term worker permit only social security
00:44:13.760 cards and whatnot and the entire ng administrative complex of clark county when the haitians showed
00:44:19.980 up focused efforts fundraising all priorities to haitians first haitians to the front put the
00:44:27.240 haitians in the front of the line give the haitians a special favors all these sorts of things and
00:44:32.480 that did not sit well with the citizenry who were decidedly not racist as far as i can tell
00:44:37.200 and that was used against them that was used against them so yeah i mean we're we're seeing
00:44:43.380 this weapon of anti-white hate uh deployed constantly this idea that being racist is the
00:44:50.360 worst thing in the world look i don't think you should hate anyone uh just because of how they
00:44:55.060 look you know i'm a christian i think ultimately we should treat people well and not hold you know
00:44:59.700 hate in our hearts for other groups uh but you have to be able to make real decisions and when
00:45:05.880 you look at people like Austin Metcalf's father or the mother of Cannon Hennant when they were
00:45:13.480 killed, their first priority is to run out and say, I'm not a racist. I'm not a racist. They
00:45:17.940 weren't racist. The people who were murdered were not racist, as if that's the most important thing
00:45:22.640 you could say about them in this moment. As if you were going to be racist as a parent, you would
00:45:27.460 not have justification in this one minute, right? If you were ever going to have justification,
00:45:31.680 this would be the time. And yet they think this is like the most important thing that they need
00:45:35.560 this signal obviously we saw what just happened uh with shiloh hendrix being basically uh convicted
00:45:41.200 of being white you know using the same word that the man who was harassing her the uh you know
00:45:46.260 sexual assault guy you know who's from another country a somalian uh you know out there you know 0.75
00:45:51.280 on you know for reasons we can't explain you know taping children at a park but he feels like he has 0.81
00:45:56.940 this this shield right because he knows that if he says she's racist he can do whatever he wants
00:46:02.100 And that's the beauty of it. It paralyzes people, as you say. So, again, I don't want people to go out there and hate people because of their skin color. But we need to get over this idea that racism is the worst thing in the world. There are worse things than racism. Your child on a playground being assaulted or killed by a Somali immigrant with a history of sexual assault. That's worse than you saying mean words like that just is.
00:46:26.220 And we have to stop making apologies for these type of things.
00:46:28.600 And I hope this is a lesson that people like those in Springfield would eventually learn, because once they see the, you know, the results of this, you know, all of the excuses about racism and things that you just can't live in that mentality anymore.
00:46:40.220 As you say, this was warfare done to the people of Springfield.
00:46:43.200 This was punishment.
00:46:44.100 The people who didn't know what they were doing.
00:46:45.740 There's no there's no excuse or any ambiguity here.
00:46:50.140 If you'd like, we can we can adjust the real and let out a little bit more line.
00:46:55.980 You want to let me out on a little bit more lines?
00:46:57.400 Sure, sure, sure.
00:46:58.060 Okay.
00:46:59.820 If Springfield was actually racist, they would be safe.
00:47:03.700 Yeah, that's right. 0.66
00:47:04.680 If Springfield was actually racist, they would be safe because they would not have sent the Haitians or because it would be too dangerous.
00:47:09.860 They would have picked the next town that was dangerously welcoming to their own advantage.
00:47:15.220 Think about an immune system and an invasion.
00:47:17.560 i i don't quite break it that explicitly in haitians of springfield the book because
00:47:24.580 my book is a gift to this to the people it is the memoir of the city of the heritage citizens of the
00:47:29.840 city uh and and it is their truth it is their stories so the you know the blurbs on the back
00:47:35.860 of the book you know you typically want to get like celebrities and authors and journalists
00:47:38.820 but i didn't do that with haitians of springfield the blurbs on the back all 10 of them
00:47:45.280 it's like Tammy 59 lifelong resident of Springfield Barron 63 lifelong resident of
00:47:54.540 Springfield Nikki Ann 43 11 year resident of Springfield Cindy 54 worked in Springfield for
00:48:03.520 20 years 11 year resident of Clark County and what they say about the book what is their praise
00:48:09.580 for the book. That is credibility. And so I don't make it as, let's say, blunt as I possibly could
00:48:18.840 as this book is a gift to these people. It's literary reparations. That's what it is
00:48:26.020 from my perspective. They're not going to get that from the state, from the city, from the county,
00:48:31.040 from the federal government. So I can give them my best donation that I can to pay them for what
00:48:37.480 they suffered through that said as i mentioned earlier other areas where people of the same race 0.69
00:48:47.540 live in large numbers they're they're not picked they're they're generally not uh picked it's it's
00:48:53.980 it's always a kind of a race-based targeting now i want to bring up scott adams not for that reason
00:49:00.080 okay just yeah he had some wisdom just stay away um there was something else that he said both
00:49:08.020 before that which i was surprised he did not get canned for this one it was it was let's say
00:49:13.520 truthful hyperbole it was directional accuracy that got scott in hot water that day but it was
00:49:19.380 prior to this that he regularly said and i i can't believe he didn't get in trouble for this
00:49:23.020 he would say you are allowed to be racist in self-defense to be racist in self-defense is
00:49:29.720 acceptable and it's morally permissible he would say i'm slightly paraphrasing but that's my
00:49:34.460 takeaway which he would later then make more far more explicit and incendiary in his later remarks
00:49:38.740 in 2023 february i believe it was and he would point out i think the uh was it reverend jesse
00:49:46.920 jackson strategy of seeing a young black male on one side of the sidewalk and then and then
00:49:50.940 immediately crossing the street to go to the other when i hear white steps but footsteps behind me i
00:49:55.300 feel safe. The Reverend Jesse Jackson. Yes. Yes. And everyone knows that. Everyone knows that
00:50:01.820 when a black man becomes successful, he moves as close to white people and as far away from 0.99
00:50:05.400 fellow blacks as possible. Everyone knows that. That's just what you do. What does a black 0.99
00:50:09.900 neighborhood look like versus a white neighborhood? 80% each way. Everyone knows that. And you can 0.99
00:50:15.840 even do this. I once did this as a social experiment. I pulled up Google Earth. I looked
00:50:20.660 at trotwood ohio like 80 plus black approximately pull up and just do just do uh street view google
00:50:27.340 street view do this with haiti by the way and then compare it to the dominican republic who
00:50:31.480 by the way is not even a white country you know it's like it's like one-third spanish one-third
00:50:36.720 islander and one-third mixture of dutch and portuguese and americans and puerto ricans and 0.75
00:50:41.260 cubans and whatever else and you know and a former black slaves like a little bit of everything
00:50:44.740 dominicans are they're an interesting group i like dominicans i interviewed them for the book by the
00:50:48.280 way what are your neighbors like no one ever asks dominicans about the cats and the dogs and the
00:50:52.260 ducks and they teach them like they treat them like it's a like like it's a zombie infestation
00:50:56.560 like they they don't they like shoot them if they try to come over the wall in hispanola like it's 1.00
00:51:01.080 it's they're super aggressive towards the haitian population but they don't get in trouble for it 0.98
00:51:05.920 because they're not white right only white people can't do can't racially profile other races this
00:51:11.580 is so this is so it's so interesting and like i think simply calling out the anti-white strategy
00:51:15.800 and tactics is probably helpful i think those people who are like yeah let's let's let's restart
00:51:21.620 segregation and let's build our own white you know neighborhoods and and separatist and it's like
00:51:27.740 that sounds like third worldism that sounds like an ideology of of racially identified defeat
00:51:35.760 and like that that is a i think that's a reactionary framework that's not at all helpful
00:51:42.680 because there are allies that white people have
00:51:46.080 who are not white. 0.99
00:51:47.180 I've created a term that is rather hilarious
00:51:50.040 and dad joke adjacent,
00:51:51.880 and it goes like this.
00:51:53.500 White people, people of lighter color and allies.
00:51:57.920 So in many cases, this would be friendly Jews,
00:51:59.840 this would be East Asians, for example,
00:52:01.580 those people whose cultures are compatible deeply
00:52:04.320 with white culture, Japanese, classical Japanese,
00:52:06.720 for example, K-pop, et cetera.
00:52:09.120 People of color are people of lighter color and allies, okay?
00:52:12.500 The acronym is pronounced Polka. 1.00
00:52:15.060 Rather hilariously so, but also true.
00:52:17.520 And this is what has broken my heart for Springfield,
00:52:20.220 is they are the least racist group of people,
00:52:22.480 but they were treated like they were the most racist group of people.
00:52:25.400 And then you realize that's why they were treated that way.
00:52:29.100 Yes, yes.
00:52:30.280 It's like there's a documentarian who spent time in Haiti
00:52:34.580 and described what his experiences were like with the Haitians 0.65
00:52:36.860 who earned his trust and then immediately tried to bodily harm him. 0.67
00:52:41.880 uh without any type of a conscience issue he said they mistook my kindness for weakness
00:52:48.920 yeah i think there's a huge amount for people to learn from this and that's why i'm glad
00:52:56.980 you did this book i think it's important for people to understand the dynamics at play
00:53:01.360 and how that you know kindness is ultimately uh preyed upon and why we have to adjust our frame
00:53:07.900 and understand what's happening here.
00:53:09.880 So again, I'm glad that the people of Springfield
00:53:12.120 are not forgotten
00:53:12.760 and that you have kind of immortalized
00:53:15.460 their experience in this book.
00:53:17.180 So we have a few questions from the audience we'll get to.
00:53:19.300 But before we do that,
00:53:20.880 if people want to pre-order the book,
00:53:22.240 they want to find what's going on with you,
00:53:23.700 where should people go to do that?
00:53:25.580 Haitians of Springfield is in pre-order right now
00:53:27.660 at Amazon.com and elsewhere books are sold.
00:53:30.160 We're expecting a nationwide release
00:53:31.640 on October 6th in stores nationwide.
00:53:34.580 And I, of course, I'm causing all my trouble
00:53:36.220 over at Joshua Lysak or those interested in nonfiction book support, we'll call it
00:53:42.040 LysakGhostWriting.com. Excellent, guys. Like I said, I think Joshua has a lot of good insights.
00:53:48.460 He's obviously written books with some excellent people. So give his work a shot. I think you will
00:53:53.220 enjoy this book. I think you'll find that it really does speak to an issue that all of us
00:53:58.000 are trying to address in an important way. If we forget about the people who have actually
00:54:01.440 experienced this stuff, the people on the ground who are actually going through this,
00:54:05.380 then we've done ourselves a disservice with their they're not just headlines they're not just part
00:54:09.660 of a news cycle they're real people they're real americans they deserve our respect they reserve
00:54:13.780 they deserve to be remembered uh for what happened to them uh that said let's go to the questions of
00:54:19.340 the people here real quick uh sean wyland says camp of the saints is a documentary hashtag
00:54:24.280 banned books yeah it's uh it's amazing you know two years ago if i mentioned camp of the saints
00:54:31.300 i had people lose their minds on twitter oh my goodness this guy must be some virulent racist
00:54:37.160 how does he know about this no nazi book blah blah now mainstream conservative commentators
00:54:42.680 are talking about it regularly i just saw guys who ran around calling everyone woke right for
00:54:47.240 the last two years talk about the importance of camp of the states on twitter so even people who
00:54:51.720 think of themselves as somehow aligned against guys like you or me are now basically just picking
00:54:57.260 up our talking points that were forbidden a couple of years ago.
00:54:59.540 So just incredible to see a book like Camp of the Saints now just become a common recommendation
00:55:05.540 among kind of mainstream conservatives.
00:55:08.740 Yes, also, and I think there's an issue with so many so-called conservative leaders in
00:55:13.060 Europe and elsewhere who are saying, oh, we're so horrified and mortified by the scenes in
00:55:17.680 the Spanish territory.
00:55:19.380 And yet they have been co-signing all of this.
00:55:23.220 They have been supporting the mass migration. 0.94
00:55:24.940 I think Ava the Dutch chick 0.99
00:55:27.920 I think she had a good post
00:55:30.820 My friend Michael Gimmer
00:55:32.140 He boosted and pointed out
00:55:34.120 That the outrage from conservative Europeans
00:55:37.120 Seems to be an op
00:55:39.700 It seems to be a psychological operation
00:55:42.060 Being run to protect 0.64
00:55:43.760 The pro-migration conservatives
00:55:47.260 Who have betrayed their people
00:55:48.740 And it's a way of saying
00:55:50.240 Oh it's went too far this time
00:55:52.800 I'm on your side actually
00:55:54.300 yeah this is what i call house uh horse out of the barn door conservatism where oh well
00:56:00.740 we let this whole thing happen we knew it was going to happen people warned us it was going
00:56:05.140 to happen but now that it has happened i can't you know how terrible now we're going to go
00:56:09.920 and we're going to try to address the problem we already know it's too late we already know
00:56:13.480 we caused all this and you can see it in the eu right now we have several governments who have
00:56:18.280 said they're going to close their schengen zone agreements with spain because they're worried
00:56:22.860 about these immigrants coming in you know they're they're they're going to shut down all of these 0.88
00:56:26.360 things but it's like guys as you know as you point out you were the ones who manufactured this you 0.99
00:56:30.300 are you've been you know pressuring countries like hungary who've been paying for years penalties for
00:56:36.600 not allowing war refugees and economic migrants into their country you've been pressuring them
00:56:42.220 to produce exactly this outcome and now that the like absolute visceral disgust that's coming from 1.00
00:56:48.320 watching this waves of zombies come into spain now all of a sudden the optics are too bad and
00:56:54.140 you have to like you say hedge your bets and protect uh these people who betrayed you but no
00:56:58.080 like this was always the case and you know pretending that you're closing the barn door
00:57:01.940 after the horse is already three towns over no one's buying that at this point uh marcos says
00:57:08.280 a trio of anti-white anti-euprian and christophobic uh yeah i think that does you know ultimately
00:57:15.140 describe the alliance uh you know the the red brown uh green alliance that is happening there
00:57:20.560 the the you know the intersectionality and intersection is the hatred of western culture
00:57:26.200 which was built by white christian males like that's that's what they really hate they'll tell
00:57:31.780 you that when they get into it they you know they'll talk about an ideology capitalism whatever
00:57:36.160 but at the end of the day it always comes down to as you were talking about you know joshua that
00:57:40.980 pure ethnic hatred. It really is, at the end of the day, that revenge against all of those
00:57:45.900 identities. And I think it's dangerous when people try to break out one. They say, oh,
00:57:49.340 it's just white people. It's just Christians. It's just men. It's like, no, it's all of those
00:57:54.820 things. And they'll tell you every time it's the collection of those traits, not breaking them off
00:58:00.140 and isolating them that ultimately brings that hatred. All right, guys, well, we're going to go
00:58:06.440 ahead and wrap this up. Joshua, it's been fantastic speaking with you. I again, encourage people to
00:58:11.260 read your books and go out and pre-order The Haitians of Springfield. I think it's a very
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00:58:40.980 watching and as always i will talk to you next time