The Auron MacIntyre Show - The Siege of Minnesota

00:00:00.640 Hey everybody, how's it going? Thanks for joining me this afternoon. I am Oren McIntyre.

00:00:07.380 I'm still recovering from a surgery right now, which is why my face is not on the screen,

00:00:12.340 but the situation in Minnesota continues to get crazier and crazier. So I wanted to spend

00:00:17.960 a little time talking about it today. So forgive me if this one is a little more casual, just

00:00:23.400 me kind of running through the news, not as organized as usual, but I did want to just

00:00:29.560 kind of share my thoughts since I could finally get up and into a chair. So I'm going to dive

00:00:36.200 into that real quick here. I'm sure you guys have seen that Minnesota has only escalated

00:00:42.400 since the last show that we talked about it. And it's been an interesting development over

00:00:50.120 the time here. I want to talk about the different dynamics, the leftists who involving themselves,

00:00:55.900 the tactics that they're using, the rhetoric that the different politicians are engaging

00:01:00.000 in. And then of course, also the way that the Trump administration is responding. So we'll

00:01:06.280 just jump right into this here. This is some of the footage that has been coming out of Minneapolis.

00:01:14.620 We of course have seen Antifa rioters on the streets, wherever leftist activism goes, it tends

00:01:22.580 to develop into this kind of violence. This is something we see on a regular basis. The left

00:01:29.280 is a violent movement. They encourage violence. They work together with different NGOs and with

00:01:35.740 different online organizations and larger ways to coordinate their efforts in order to produce

00:01:42.920 these outcomes. None of this, remember, is a mistake. This is all the intended outcome.

00:01:49.000 We can see here some Minneapolis rioters who are breaking into a federal building as

00:01:54.440 Serena Hernandez is reporting here. Let's watch that real quick.

00:02:03.400 You see him here with the hatchet. Of course, they're filming everything because they're proud

00:02:08.860 of what they're doing. They have the footage breaking here into the vehicle, stealing a rifle bag here.

00:02:17.020 So there's a federal, a fairly owned weapon. So we've already got a very serious crime involved.

00:02:23.120 They're getting different documents out of here. Everything out of the vehicle is raided.

00:02:31.500 So she says here, Minneapolis rioters are now breaking into federal vehicles, stole a FBI rifle,

00:02:36.840 ammunition, and sensitive documents with DHS agents, information, and locations. So a couple things

00:02:44.160 here to remember. First, we're seeing the rating of these vehicles. And as part of the rating of these

00:02:48.600 vehicles, we have different terrorists. And that is the correct term for this, guys. Once your movement

00:02:55.700 has moved, they're not chanting in the streets. They're not even rioting in the traditional sense

00:03:03.060 of they're looting a target for TVs or something. That's really bad. That's not okay. But it's not even

00:03:09.800 just that kind of disorganized, violent looting. This is full on an act of terror. These people

00:03:16.060 are striking government vehicles. They are stealing federal weapons and ammunition out of those

00:03:21.380 vehicles. The very likelihood that something like that will be deployed against an ICE agent is very

00:03:28.560 high. These are people who are looking to murder ICE agents. We've already seen them try to do that

00:03:32.840 multiple times, including shooting at them with rifles. They attempted to kill multiple ICE agents

00:03:39.080 previously, but ended up only shooting the detainees those ICE agents were handling in a van. So we know

00:03:45.440 these are the kind of people who will absolutely turn that weapon on and try to murder ICE agents in

00:03:51.820 the field. In addition to this, they're also securing these documents. And we know that Antifa and the news

00:03:58.840 media have been working. And to be really clear, the media is working with Antifa. This is a

00:04:03.280 organized terrorist operation in the left. The media knows what it's doing. And they are working

00:04:09.660 to dox these ICE agents. Now, a lot of leftists have complained about the masks being used by ICE

00:04:15.740 agents, which is rather ironic seeing as they all tried to force us at gunpoint to wear masks a few years

00:04:21.240 ago. But they've been complaining that the ICE agents are hiding their identity. And of course,

00:04:27.460 I would prefer that we not have a situation in which our federal officers, our law enforcement

00:04:32.060 needs to hide their identity. I think that's generally better for a police force to be face

00:04:36.860 to face to people. We don't want storm troopers. We want that. However, the left is manufacturing this

00:04:42.840 situation. They know what they're doing. They know why they're forcing the ICE agents to wear masks,

00:04:48.420 because these insane leftists will show up to these people's house. They will harass them.

00:04:52.540 They will try to do violence to them. They'll try to intimidate their families. This is already a

00:04:57.940 common practice of the left. And when they secure documents like this, they can get additional

00:05:02.680 information on these ICE agents. And of course, plan and coordinate additional violence. They've

00:05:08.320 already doxed the ICE agent who was hit by the car who was almost killed by the Antifa terrorist who

00:05:15.060 ended up getting shot in her car. However, that's not enough for them. They need to ruin and destroy the

00:05:20.560 lives of everyone involved. And this is how the operation works. It's not enough to simply repel

00:05:26.540 the actions of these people because they're going to hunt you down. There is no leaving you alone for

00:05:32.860 the left. Once you have involved yourself in trying to stop their spree of violence, and these people

00:05:37.900 are unhinged terrorists who are allowed to operate in the United States, once these terrorists see you

00:05:44.540 attempting to stop their violence, their political violence, they will hunt you down. They'll try to

00:05:49.600 destroy your life. They'll try to get your kids hurt. This is what they're going to do. They're

00:05:55.260 going to show up at your parents' house, your kids' school. They're going to send messages. They're

00:06:00.220 going to intimidate you. This is the tactic the left is making sure to deploy. So we have dangerous

00:06:04.880 weapons. We have ammunition. These are obviously very serious crimes. Now, obviously, during J6,

00:06:13.420 we had a lot of people in the crowd. And a lot of those people went to jail for all kinds of stuff,

00:06:18.340 for standing outside. Some people weren't even there. Ended up going to jail for years,

00:06:22.640 almost getting multiple life sentences for not even appearing at the event. And so the fact that

00:06:28.140 these guys are here and proudly filming themselves should make it relatively easy to figure out who

00:06:33.180 they are. If we can track the cell phones for everybody at J6, we can certainly do it for everybody

00:06:37.840 who was around this vehicle. And everyone involved in here should spend five to 10 years in a federal

00:06:44.920 president. And I'm not kidding at all. These guys are taking hatchets to the vehicles of federal

00:06:50.480 officers. They are stealing very dangerous weapons out of those vehicles, along with ammunition.

00:06:56.200 They are securing material so that they can dox and probably harass and or kill ICE agents.

00:07:03.300 Every one of these people should be in jail. They should spend a good long chunk of their lives

00:07:09.260 in jail. And so this needs to be escalated, obviously. I know that a lot of this sounds

00:07:16.800 tiresome, guys. I know you hear me say a lot of this stuff over and over again. And I'm sorry,

00:07:20.980 I apologize, but it just has to be said. We have to repeat it. We have to repeat it over and over

00:07:25.300 again until it takes hold. We need the preference cascade. People need to recognize that this is okay.

00:07:30.540 It's not that it's okay what they're doing here, but it's okay to say that these people need to be

00:07:34.080 punished, that they need to spend five years in jail, that they need to be in very, very,

00:07:40.260 very difficult situations because of the actions they've taken. Because if we don't,

00:07:44.640 if this continues to just go unabated, there's going to be serious. This is only going to get

00:07:50.200 worse. And it has. It's continued. I keep saying, hey, if we don't do anything, it's going to get

00:07:53.720 worse. And then it gets worse and we don't do anything. Again, I understand. I don't want to fall

00:07:58.220 into that learned helplessness cycle. But since I can't arrest anyone personally, the only thing that I have

00:08:03.020 left to do is say the federal government has to take very serious action on this.

00:08:09.100 And we can see that, you know, Tim Walls is not somebody who's very interested in regulating the

00:08:16.020 behavior here early on, early on in this, you know, terroristic siege of his state. He encourages

00:08:22.020 violence. He says that ICE officers are going door to door and ordering you to turn in your neighbors

00:08:27.800 of color. That's because Tim Walls is trying to justify violence. He wants to paint ICE agents

00:08:34.100 as some kind of Nazis, some kind of fascists for doing the very simple job of removing these people

00:08:39.960 from a country they don't belong in. You know, this is what deportations are always going to

00:08:46.180 look like. Deportations are going to require the physical removal of people. And the people they're

00:08:50.640 going after are largely the worst people first. Now, it's not everybody. They're going after the

00:08:55.220 worst people first. But if they happen to find someone there who's, you know, illegal, and they

00:08:59.580 also need to be deported, they get included too. So it's mostly gangbangers. It's mostly drug dealers.

00:09:05.360 It's mostly people who are who are doing violence. But that's not it. And by the way, that's good.

00:09:10.380 We want to deport all the illegal aliens. Every illegal alien is a criminal. They all have to go back.

00:09:16.380 Every one of them. It's not about, oh, okay, only the violent ones, only the dangerous ones. No,

00:09:21.400 every single one of these people needs to go back. Every single one of them. I don't care if they

00:09:26.340 haven't gotten a traffic ticket the entire time they've been in the U.S. They cross the border

00:09:30.100 illegally. They need to go home. End of story. So it's good to start with the worst people. It's

00:09:34.980 good just practically. It makes more sense to go after the most dangerous people because they're the

00:09:39.220 ones who are going to create the most danger. It also makes sense to go after them just optically

00:09:43.840 and legally because it's easiest to justify both in the public imagination and in the courts their

00:09:49.480 deportation. Though we see even then, the media constantly lies and the courts work against the

00:09:54.980 administration. So even with that strategy of prudently going after the worst actors first, you still

00:10:00.940 have a scenario where it's difficult to go through this. But look, the optics are going to be what the

00:10:06.760 optics are going to be. With any police situation, you're going to have a scenario where I think the

00:10:13.400 ICE agents are mostly doing a great job. I'm not denigrating ICE agents at all, to be very clear.

00:10:18.020 But prepare yourself. Steal your heart. You're going to get a bad shooting. I don't think the

00:10:24.260 one that we saw with the lesbian who tried to run over the ICE officer, I don't think that was a

00:10:31.000 bad shoot at all. I think that was a perfectly justifiable shoot. But I just want to make you

00:10:34.500 aware, you're going to get a bad shooting. You're going to get a piece of bad behavior from ICE

00:10:38.720 officers. Something's going to stick. It's going to happen. Okay? And you can't go running off the

00:10:43.780 minute. You can't go with your tail between your legs. And all of a sudden, oh no, we can't enforce

00:10:48.820 the law just because someone did the wrong thing. Because police make mistakes. Okay? Prison guards

00:10:56.760 make mistakes. FBI agents make mistakes, for sure. Like all law enforcement will make mistakes. Now,

00:11:03.240 that doesn't mean that that's okay. It doesn't mean that they just have a blank check to treat people

00:11:07.720 however they want. But we do need to understand that a certain percentage of, you know, arrests are

00:11:13.260 wrong. A certain percentage of actions by law enforcement are mistakes. That's going to happen.

00:11:19.800 There might even be a malicious guy out there that does something mean to someone that they shouldn't

00:11:24.200 do as an ICE officer. And you just need to be prepared for that stuff to come. And you can't run

00:11:29.580 away from the fact these people have to be deported just because that happens. Okay? Now, you need to

00:11:34.220 keep the percentage low. I want to see very few mistakes by ICE agents. I want to see them

00:11:40.320 overall doing the right thing, you know, comporting themselves properly, which I think they are. So

00:11:45.340 there's not a problem there. If there was, if we got an overwhelming amount of bad behavior from ICE

00:11:50.540 agents, it might be worth saying something. But what can't happen is the deportations cannot stop.

00:11:55.000 They cannot stop. They will not stop. It's not okay. Can't back down. And the good news is the

00:11:59.320 Trump administration has been saying that they don't intend to do so.

00:12:04.220 So here is Donald Trump sending out his truths. He doesn't tweet, he truths.

00:12:10.680 And you can see the announcement here. The White House reposted it on their Twitter account.

00:12:16.300 Trump says, if the corrupt politicians of Minnesota don't obey the law and stop the

00:12:20.020 professional agitators and insurrectionists from attacking the patriots of ICE, we're only

00:12:24.540 trying to do their job. I will institute the Insurrection Act, which many presidents have done

00:12:29.700 before me and quickly put an end to the travesty that is taking place in once great state. Thank

00:12:34.260 you for your attention to this matter, Donald J. Trump. Now, of course, that's encouraging. That's

00:12:39.520 what should happen. If, uh, if Minnesota is out of control, if law and order is completely broken

00:12:44.660 down, uh, then you have to take some kind of action. And to be clear, uh, you know, this is a real

00:12:50.160 problem because, uh, you know, Minnesota is obviously working to fight against ICE. That's

00:12:56.320 why it's happening here, right? In Florida, deportations are happening. I live in Florida.

00:13:00.860 Deportations are happening. Uh, but they are not, uh, meeting this kind of resistance because

00:13:05.740 we have a, you know, Republican governor. We have Ron DeSantis. We have a, a, a friendly conservative

00:13:12.140 government. And, uh, you know, I'm sure there are people in Florida who want to oppose the deportation,

00:13:17.720 but they're simply not going to get away with it because the police aren't their side. And this

00:13:20.820 is what you need to understand about protests. We've talked about this before, but something to

00:13:24.120 just keep in mind. Protests are largely, um, something that only happens when you have power

00:13:29.580 on your side. Protests are not the little guy fighting against the big guy. It's the people in

00:13:36.040 charge are allowing crowds to do things because they want them to be done. And to be clear, Tim

00:13:41.020 Walz wants the violence in Minnesota. So do a lot of the officials in Minnesota. The police are on the

00:13:46.580 side of the rioters. They're working with them. So is the district attorneys and the governor and all

00:13:51.460 these different officials. They want the violence. They want the violence. And so they're encouraging

00:13:56.620 it. And so you have to understand, uh, that, uh, when the government is looking at what's going on

00:14:03.480 here, it has to evaluate, can we operate safely inside this area? And you have to start looking at

00:14:09.460 this is really an occupied hostile area in which, uh, you know, American citizens, true American

00:14:15.740 patriots are not safe. Uh, there are, uh, you know, uh, insurrectionists, there are terrorists

00:14:22.560 in this area, uh, that want to hurt and kill ICE agents and the government largely agrees with them

00:14:27.700 and wants to cover for them while they do this. Uh, so I think, you know, it's, it's critical for

00:14:33.360 Trump to have this tool in his tool bag and to know critically when to deploy it. And this is the real

00:14:39.100 edge he's walking on because, you know, Tim Walz is talking a lot. He's throwing around a lot of,

00:14:43.440 you know, civil war rhetoric about a different, you know, uh, we, we were, we were here during the

00:14:49.600 civil war. We fought back against those Confederates and all these different, you know, leftists who

00:14:53.720 have suddenly discovered, uh, you know, the second coming of state's rights, you know, all of a sudden

00:14:57.660 they're big John C Calhoun fans. You know, he turns out you can actually just annul federal law

00:15:03.360 and, uh, Andrew Jackson was wrong. And, you know, ultimately, you know, I, I, I'm a fan of state

00:15:12.100 rights, but it's clear that we don't have those state state rights just have not existed for a

00:15:17.360 very long time, at least not since the 1860s. They certainly didn't exist, you know, previously when

00:15:22.920 the federal government was sending the 101st airborne down to the South to march kids into schools at

00:15:28.820 ban at point. So, you know, we had the mayor of Minnesota saying, can you imagine, can you imagine

00:15:33.340 what would they like to have an occupying force in your, in your state? Someone who's hostile to

00:15:37.200 your, your beliefs and is forcing you to do something you don't want to do. It's like, yeah,

00:15:40.520 man, I can imagine that I'm from the South. We were occupied. Look, we literally had a middle

00:15:47.220 military occupation during reconstruction. And then, you know, various times the United States army,

00:15:53.940 not, not the national guard, not, not, you know, ice, not some federal agency, but the,

00:15:59.660 the actual army of the United States was deployed into the South to force decisions that the North

00:16:05.280 wanted into our area. I mean, maybe you think that's justified. Maybe you don't, but don't,

00:16:10.260 don't tell me about state's rights. Don't tell me about the dangers of the insurrection act.

00:16:14.580 I know what you guys do. I know who you are. I know what you really believe. You're not going

00:16:18.560 to suddenly fool me by deciding to, you know, dust off that old 10th amendment argument and just

00:16:24.240 rediscover the fact that federalism is a thing. I know at the end of the day, the minute you're in

00:16:28.120 power, you're going to turn right around and start marching troops into my hometown. I have

00:16:33.160 no doubt about that. So I don't feel anything bad for you here. I don't think this is any level of

00:16:37.580 hypocrisy. This is simply the wages of what you've done. But of course, the Trump administration has

00:16:44.160 to be careful. People are thinking about midterms. They're worried about, you know, the optics involved.

00:16:50.540 And we'll talk a little bit more about that in a second, but you know, the, the Trump administration

00:16:54.460 does have to be prudent about the, about the deployment of kind of the insurrection act and,

00:17:01.560 and, and deploying troops or anything else into these areas. The more, the more B roll of federal

00:17:08.260 agents and troops and people, you know, getting cracked down on that the left can deploy, the more

00:17:13.000 they can rile up their stuff. Now, I don't think that's a, you know, that's an excuse to just,

00:17:17.420 you know, basically cuck on all this stuff to completely, uh, you know, give up and, oh, well,

00:17:23.200 if we got bad optics, then we just can't do anything. Like I said, no, the deportations have

00:17:27.620 to take place. They will take place. The deportations must continue. So they will continue.

00:17:32.340 So only question is what's the prudent way to handle the optics situation in that area. And you

00:17:38.980 care about them as long as you can. At some point, maybe you can't, at some point, you just have to

00:17:43.100 take action and who cares? You know, the, the, the lefts are going to spin this. The media is going

00:17:47.600 to lie about it no matter what. So you do what you have to do, but up until you have to do what

00:17:51.780 you have to do, you try to be as careful with the optics as you can, because it really just makes you

00:17:56.380 far more likely to be successful. And that is of course the, the, uh, you know, reason to do all of

00:18:02.360 this. So, uh, you'll see here that then later Tim Walls comes out the next day and he says, well,

00:18:09.040 actually I'm going to make a different deal. I'll make, I'll make a direct appeal to president. Let's,

00:18:12.500 let's turn down the temperature down. Let's, let's stop the campaign of retribution. This is

00:18:17.140 not who we are. Uh, what, this is an appeal to minute to Minnesotans. I know this is scary.

00:18:22.460 We can't, we must speak out loudly, urgently, but also peacefully. We cannot fan the flames of chaos.

00:18:27.360 That's what he wants. And obviously that's what Tim Walls wants. Tim Walls wants the violence,

00:18:34.180 but he got it a little over his head. And this is difficult because Tim Walls has already been

00:18:38.580 kind of tarnished by the Somali scandal. And it's very clear, uh, that he is probably unlikely,

00:18:43.960 uh, to continue, uh, as the governor, uh, he's decided he's not going to run, uh, for his next,

00:18:50.240 uh, uh, you know, for his next term. Uh, so he is in this very strange, weak position where he was

00:18:55.140 trying to kind of get out the door. And now this whole thing has exploded and he's trying to be the

00:18:59.420 rebel leader, uh, while also recognizing that he's, he's goose is already cooked politically.

00:19:04.200 Uh, and so he's got to find this middle ground of like not backing down from Trump, but you know,

00:19:09.200 also, uh, this, so that's kind of what he's trying to do here. Uh, so we can also see a few mother,

00:19:16.520 a few more interesting things in this collection here. Uh, we have, uh, the, uh, Antifa guys. Uh,

00:19:23.480 here they are and hoping that they can create a slip and fall.

00:19:34.820 Situation for ice. They're, they're pouring the, the water on here, uh, assuming that the incredibly

00:19:40.060 cold conditions, uh, will immediately turn this into something that the ice agents will

00:19:44.980 slip on somewhere. Uh, so it's good to know that basically Antifa is now deploying, uh, the, the,

00:19:51.320 uh, tactics of Kevin McAllister, uh, from home alone. Um, little do they know that Donald Trump is

00:19:56.760 in home alone too. So we have the secret inside agent in this one. We, we ultimately have, uh,

00:20:01.720 home alone supremacy on the right. Uh, but you can see this is, this is kind of the petty nature

00:20:07.120 of these people. And this is, so I've said this before, but this is kind of a problem.

00:20:11.780 Uh, and I'm, trust me, I'm not asking for more efficient radicals. I'm not hoping for more

00:20:16.840 successfully violent, uh, leftists. However, part of this is just how dumb these people are,

00:20:23.500 uh, and how goofy and ridiculous they are. Like everything they know literally is from a movie,

00:20:30.140 like their children, they, they really are just emotional children, but that doesn't mean they

00:20:34.620 can't be dangerous. And so this creates this strange dynamic where a lot of what these guys do

00:20:39.280 is, is cartoonish and dumb and weak. I don't know if you remember when that woman, uh, you know,

00:20:45.000 got herself shot after trying to murder the ice agent, you had some guy doing, you're doing a

00:20:49.000 hecking murder, you know, like he's like, he came directly out of a subreddit. Uh, like he's a

00:20:54.480 cartoon that we would make up on the internet about how leftists behave. Um, but this, this, you know,

00:21:00.380 they really, they really are basing their lives off Marvel movies and that kind of stuff. But, um,

00:21:05.560 so it makes them really inefficient. You know, they, they, they shoot the wrong people. They attack

00:21:09.980 the wrong people. They do stupid stuff like this. And so that kind of makes them so cartoonish that

00:21:14.360 perhaps they're, you know, they seem, you know, not dangerous. So this isn't a big deal, but it is a

00:21:18.780 big deal because these people can still get people killed, you know, as we've seen, uh, they are still

00:21:22.980 dangerous. They can still hurt people. Uh, and eventually they won't be bad at this. Like at some

00:21:27.500 point they'll do this enough to where they will get more efficient at it and probably never, you know,

00:21:32.240 they're never going to be dealt the force. Uh, but these guys will get to the point where

00:21:35.420 they, they learn how to really kill people. Uh, and that's, that's building. Like, don't,

00:21:39.920 don't lie to yourself about what's happening here. I know it's really look, I, and I respect a lot of

00:21:44.920 people who are saying this. I understand why I get it. Nothing ever happens. And the left,

00:21:49.220 is it really a problem and you don't need to worry about civil war or anything that's ridiculous and

00:21:53.860 don't be silly. But you know, the leftists are putting themselves in a position where more and more

00:21:59.360 of these people are going to get insane, radical, violent. Um, and I know I, the hope is that

00:22:04.420 ultimately they just kind of calm down. They see how they see how fruitless, you know, they are with

00:22:11.000 their actions and they're just going to back away. I promise you they're not, man. And I'm just as

00:22:14.660 right about this as I was when you told you the woke isn't going away. Like, I promise you, these

00:22:19.080 people are true believers. They, they are going to keep pushing. They cannot exist in a world where

00:22:24.380 the left is not totally in charge. You have to remember that immigration is an existential issue for

00:22:29.560 the left. It is just as an existential issue for the left. It is for the right. They cannot win

00:22:34.980 elections in an America that is demographic, demographically secure. Like if, if America does

00:22:42.920 not have open borders where they are shipping in large amounts of people who are ultimately going

00:22:47.900 to vote for them because they get benefits and steal everything from the middle class. If they don't have

00:22:53.520 those people, they can't win. They're just not going to win elections. So they have to do this.

00:22:58.140 Like they can, like, again, I know a lot of people bag on the Trump administration, but the

00:23:03.620 Trump administration has effectively ended illegal immigration. I'm going to say that again, because

00:23:08.940 it was unthinkable, unthinkable for my entire life. We got a thousand reasons why Republican

00:23:15.180 presidents couldn't do this. And the Trump administration said, no, the border is closed

00:23:19.660 and illegal immigration is all but over. That's insane. Like we need more. Don't get me wrong. We need

00:23:26.780 more. It's not enough. It's not sufficient, but that victory is huge. And the left knows it. Okay,

00:23:31.480 man, they went from 8 million people getting in under Biden, at least to like nobody. And that's

00:23:38.440 a problem for them, especially if we start removing the people they got in here, especially if we start

00:23:42.680 attacking birthright citizenship, looking through voter rolls, fixing the voting. All of a sudden,

00:23:48.080 all these, all the, all the voter fraud, the left has been relying on to stay politically relevant

00:23:53.340 disappears. And who knows what, what, what would a real election in the United States look like? You

00:23:59.060 don't even know, man. You don't even know. That's the thing. We don't even know what a real election

00:24:03.580 in our, in our country looks like because for our entire lives, elections have been packed full of

00:24:09.260 illegals. They've been packed full of this voter fraud that the left has been using. That's the reality.

00:24:16.240 We don't even know what a real election looks like. The Republicans are winning a decent amount,

00:24:21.100 even without that change. What happens if there's a permanent shift and the left can no longer

00:24:27.400 bring in these people? What does that look like? We just don't know, but I bet you it's going to be

00:24:34.120 really in favor of the right and the left knows this and they're terrified about this. And so they're

00:24:39.180 going to keep pushing on this stuff. So speaking of how they're going to keep pushing on this stuff,

00:24:43.680 we can see the threats that are coming out of the left. So here is, uh, just an average leftist

00:24:50.760 account, you know, talking about how we need to start bum-rushing these people, start putting down

00:24:54.980 your phones, start attacking them. This guy also, to be clear, it's the same, same account. He's also

00:25:00.040 talked about how ICE agents, they're just wearing like vests and, you know, bulletproof vests and

00:25:04.480 jeans. So you need to start targeting this area and this area and this area. He's handing out

00:25:07.920 information about how to be a terrorist. He's still on Twitter. Nothing has been taken down.

00:25:14.040 He's not being banned. Um, I don't know if the FBI is knocking on this guy's door, but they should be

00:25:19.140 like this. Like, I don't know why Twitter still has this account active, but it has plenty of

00:25:24.980 convincing evidence that shows it's a terrorist account, including encouraging violence against

00:25:29.780 federal officers. Uh, again, if you're, if you're a conservative, uh, posting about how you don't

00:25:35.900 like abortion and maybe you, you go protest by sitting in an abortion clinic, you're going to

00:25:39.860 spend like 10 years in jail, but this guy can just say, yeah, let's go kill some ICE officers here,

00:25:44.880 how to do it. And the posts are up on Twitter. And in addition to that, we can see, uh, someone,

00:25:52.460 uh, you know, we got, uh, you know, these guys, I don't think this guy has any official position.

00:25:57.400 He's just some dude on, on Twitter. Uh, but he's saying to all ICE agents when Trump, uh, Trump's gone.

00:26:03.740 So, so is your job and your immunity. And we won't, uh, forget what you did. Uh, so this is an

00:26:09.620 open threat from leftists saying, Hey, uh, as soon as you lose an election, we will prosecute everybody

00:26:16.220 who was involved in ICE. You won't be protected. As soon as Trump's out of office, you're fired,

00:26:21.800 you lose your federal immunity. We're going after you. Uh, I don't know if you guys are familiar with

00:26:26.560 history at all, but, uh, you know, there's a classic tradition of going out and threatening armed men

00:26:32.160 saying, Hey, if, uh, if political leadership changes, uh, you, you'll lose everything.

00:26:37.500 You'll go to jail. We'll destroy your life. It's like, all right, then I guess we won't lose power

00:26:43.000 ever again. Like, this is how you get Caesar. This is how you back people up to the Rubicon.

00:26:48.540 And I know we said this a thousand times and maybe Trump will ignore all that again. Maybe the

00:26:52.540 Republican party will ignore that again, but this is the kind of rhetoric that gets you there. I mean,

00:26:57.380 if the penalty for losing an election is going to jail forever, but the, you know, the penalty for,

00:27:07.100 uh, you know, cooing the government is, you know, basically the same. Well, why not coo the

00:27:14.600 government? Right. Like what, what, what, what pretty simple calculation. We can see the same thing

00:27:19.080 here from Hakeem Jeffries, uh, who, you know, of course actually is a Congressman. And he says,

00:27:26.000 uh, to all members of the Trump administration, the incitement engagement in state violence against

00:27:30.700 the American people is a serious crime. It's not incitement to, to buy it's, it's them doing

00:27:36.600 their job. But anyway, Donald Trump will leave office long before the five-year statute limitation

00:27:41.140 expires. You are hereby put on notice. So again, he's threatening every Trump administration

00:27:45.380 official, everyone in ice, all of these people, as soon as Trump, uh, loses power, as soon as you guys

00:27:52.520 are no longer power, we're, we're putting all of you guys in jail. You're all going, you're all

00:27:56.760 going to jail. It's all serious crime. So he's threatening Stephen Miller here. Oh, obviously

00:28:01.060 openly. Uh, but this is even more of the same behavior where it's like, okay, guys, if you ever

00:28:05.680 lose an election again, if you ever lose power again, then we're just going to come after all

00:28:10.920 of you and throw them jail. The Democrats are not hesitating. They're making it very clear what their

00:28:15.340 plan is. The minute they win the next election, they will throw all of their political enemies

00:28:21.520 in jail. And unlike the Trump administration, they mean it like they, they will do it. We've

00:28:25.960 seen them do it. They'll continue to do it. This is not a, this is not a question. It's not,

00:28:29.880 Oh, do they have the stomach for it? No, we've watched them do this in mass and they will absolutely

00:28:34.560 go right back to it. But 10 times harder because now they've actually seen, uh, you know, the right

00:28:40.120 push back a little bit. And I just want to be really clear here. I'm not calling for anything,

00:28:46.700 but I'm just stating the truth. Democracy is over guys. Democracy is over. You know, it used to be

00:28:52.780 that we just called the legitimacy of elections, you know, into question. Uh, yeah, I, I, every,

00:28:59.760 every election of my adult life has been called into question. Legitimacy is called into question,

00:29:04.360 you know, from George W. Bush, uh, getting his, his votes, uh, counted against, uh, uh, against, um,

00:29:11.900 about, uh, geez, I suddenly have forgotten Al Gore. There we go. Uh, or, you know, with Barack

00:29:17.980 Obama and his birth certificate or Donald Trump at the Russiagate or whatever, like it's, you know,

00:29:22.500 Joe Biden and the obvious voter fraud that went on there. Like we used to just call these people in,

00:29:26.860 you know, the, these elections at the question, which is already undermining, you know, the idea

00:29:29.980 of a peaceful transfer of power, but now there is no peaceful transfer of power. The Democrats are

00:29:34.080 being very clear. Peaceful transfer of power is no longer possible. If you transfer power to the

00:29:39.080 Democrats, they will use that power to kill you or put you in prison. They are saying it out loud.

00:29:44.720 This is not, there's no question there. There's no hesitation. And they mean it. They mean every

00:29:48.660 word of it. It's not bluster. It's not like it is with Trump. It's not like it is with some,

00:29:52.660 you know, internet poster. These guys will absolutely do this. So they simply cannot have

00:29:57.140 power again. The peaceful transfer of power in the United States is over. And the Democrats have

00:30:00.520 declared that they will never allow for a peaceful transfer of power again. If you hand them power

00:30:05.580 after an election, they will kill you or put you in jail. They're announcing that openly.

00:30:11.300 They're already trying to kill you when they're not in power. They put you, they tried to put you

00:30:14.820 in jail last time they were in power. Now they will just try to do both when they're back in power.

00:30:18.780 They will not hesitate. So the, you know, the peaceful transfer of power in the United States

00:30:22.720 is effectively over. And the Democrats have declared it dead. If, if you try to govern as a

00:30:27.700 president of the United States and they disagree with you, as soon as you lose power, you go to jail.

00:30:32.040 And so does your administration. And so do the people who worked for you, even in, you know,

00:30:36.940 just general law enforcement capacity, everyone goes to jail or gets killed.

00:30:43.380 That's the Democrats declaration going forward. They're not hesitating. They're not mincing their

00:30:47.200 words. This is where we're at. And so, uh, you know, uh, again, the, I know people don't like the

00:30:53.100 escalating rhetoric. Um, but you know that I really don't see how we could go anywhere else. I don't,

00:30:58.240 if, if someone else can, can explain the pathways forward, please help me again. I know a lot of

00:31:04.040 people just want to believe that the left is like, and I'm sure that like, look, I look, I don't think

00:31:08.140 I don't think that ultimately Minneapolis is going to be the flashpoint. Like, I don't think this is

00:31:13.020 going to be the final nail in the straw that, you know, or then the final nail in the coffin. I mix

00:31:16.580 my metaphors there, uh, the final nail in the coffin. That's going to, you know, just, just kick

00:31:22.480 everything off and in the Republic and move us into the empire or something. But I do think this

00:31:28.100 is just a very clear indication that the trend is not stopping that we're going to continue to move

00:31:33.620 this direction unless something pretty radical happens. Uh, and so, uh, you know, the, again,

00:31:39.680 this, this might not be the one instance where it all goes down, but that instance is coming.

00:31:44.780 Like we are on a trajectory that is unavoidable unless the left somehow moderates and everyone's

00:31:49.900 say, Oh, well, as soon as they realize this doesn't work, they'll moderate. I don't think so.

00:31:53.860 I don't think they will. I think some percentage of them will continue to try to, but the, you know,

00:31:57.860 the, the left wants to do this. They want the violence. This is what the left wants. Okay. This

00:32:02.380 is not a, there's not some strange, uh, outcome. There's not some unpredictable outcome from their

00:32:08.740 previous rhetoric and behavior. You know, we, I had the question, you know, I had, I had my bet going

00:32:13.740 with academic agent and I thought there'd be violence right after Kamala Harris lost. I really did.

00:32:18.940 Um, and so he was right about that point. He was right that the violence wasn't right away,

00:32:22.760 but he was wrong in the longterm because it turns out it was just kind of a, uh, this,

00:32:29.240 this is something that is, uh, was more of a slow burn. It took the left, uh, several months to really

00:32:34.780 start building up some momentum. They were very shocked from, uh, uh, you know, everything that

00:32:40.140 happened there. Uh, they were backing away, uh, and trying to recuperate after the loss, uh, in the

00:32:45.380 election to Trump. Uh, but we now got to the point where they've kind of reorganized themselves and

00:32:50.600 they're working, they're working to push back. And this is kind of where they're at, right? Uh,

00:32:54.800 this, this is what they've settled on. And it's just, it's just open violence because they recognize

00:32:59.200 that if the Trump administration does deport people in mass, uh, their, their political

00:33:03.900 formula is over, right? Like they can't really do much else. Uh, so this is kind of where,

00:33:08.220 where things are going. And you can see this next point of, of probable escalation here. Uh,

00:33:13.740 here's Stephen Miller. Uh, there's a, uh, uh, you know, libs of Tik TOK, uh, post here says

00:33:18.820 Mustafa, you know, star Wars name, a Biden appointed judge, uh, has blocked the federal

00:33:24.200 government, uh, from accessing Oregon's voter data. So you can't, you can't check to see if

00:33:29.540 there's been voter fraud. And Stephen Miller says they load illegals onto the voter rolls,

00:33:33.940 harvest their votes, and they appoint judges who they know will cover their crimes. And of course,

00:33:38.720 Stephen's exactly right. This is exactly what I've been saying for years. Many other people have said it too.

00:33:43.740 And Stephen Miller simply echoing things I'm sure he was aware of before we said them, but, you know,

00:33:48.240 echoing them now as well. And as he does that, uh, you, you have to ask some questions, you know,

00:33:53.920 everything in that statement is correct and it's obviously correct. He, he knows it. So it's not

00:33:57.940 like the administration isn't aware, you know, one of the top guys and arguably the, you know, the,

00:34:02.460 the mastermind of large chunks of the Trump administration, uh, is saying, here's, here's the

00:34:07.300 problem. You know, we, we, we, they, the, the leftists set up these, these fraud schemes,

00:34:12.120 they harvest the votes and then they hide behind the judges. And that's true. But then we have a real

00:34:16.700 question here and this is like existential. Okay. How do you have a, a, a democracy? How do you have

00:34:23.040 a, uh, you know, we can get into the, you know, how I feel about that term. Uh, but, uh, how do you

00:34:29.060 have any system where popular sovereignty is the way you choose election, you know, elected officials,

00:34:34.920 who's going to be in power where, you know, voter fraud is occurring and you know, the judges are

00:34:41.080 enabling it. And I don't say that facetiously. I'm not saying that rhetorically. I'm not saying

00:34:47.140 that to, uh, escalate things or have any kind of rhetoric. Uh, I I'm genuinely asking, what do you

00:34:54.260 do when you're in this scenario? You know, voter fraud is occurring. So the elections don't work.

00:35:01.240 The left is, is deploying exactly the tactic. Stephen Miller is explaining. So they know this

00:35:06.540 is what the left is doing. They are rigging elections. Okay. So fact one,

00:35:11.080 left is rigging elections. Fact two, the judges are protecting them. The judges are working

00:35:17.480 actively. Activist judges are coordinating to make sure that the voter fraud scheme is not

00:35:24.220 uncovered, that it is not broken, that the left can continue to deploy the same tactic. So

00:35:29.920 if we know voter fraud is happening, elections are how we decide our leaders and the judges are stopping

00:35:38.220 us from, from solving the voter fraud problem, then I only really see two solutions, right? Like

00:35:45.020 there's only two paths for it. One, you ignore the judges. You just ignore them and you go after

00:35:52.360 this stuff. Anyway, you go in and you rip out hard drives. If you need to, you do what you have to do.

00:35:57.620 You deport whoever you want and you ignore the judges because you know, the judges are conspiring

00:36:01.960 against you. They don't care about the law. They don't care about rule of law. They're not doing

00:36:05.080 their job. They're agents of the democratic party. That's your first option. The second option is you

00:36:12.560 just start ignoring elections because they're illegitimate, right? If you can't, if you can't

00:36:18.260 get in and prove that the elections are fraudulent and you can't stop the election fraud because the

00:36:24.980 judges are blocking you, then you have to stop paying attention to elections, right? They just can't

00:36:31.380 matter anymore because you know, they're fraudulent. Like if they're fraudulent and we're not allowed

00:36:35.240 to fix it, then you have to just stop caring about elections. I mean, the only third option is you

00:36:42.260 just keep letting the left do what they're doing, hold fraudulent elections and slowly wait for the

00:36:48.000 left to kill you. Those are all of the available options. You ignored the judges, you ignore elections,

00:36:56.540 or you just sit there and watch the left kill you because they've said once we're in power and

00:37:02.980 they will be in power because they have voter fraud on their side being protected by the judges.

00:37:08.400 As soon as we transfer power, we have an election and transfer power, we're going to put you all in

00:37:14.360 jail or kill you. Left is announcing that openly. So how many options do you have left? You know, you,

00:37:20.880 you can stop listening to judges and do what needs to get done and hope that you can save the

00:37:27.020 electoral process. You can just ignore elections and say, that doesn't matter anymore. We're staying

00:37:33.620 in power. Or you sit around and you watch these people kill you and your children or throw you in

00:37:40.180 jail. Those, if anyone has another option, if anyone has another explanation, please let me know.

00:37:47.820 Like I am genuinely without any other avenues of understanding how, what other steps you take.

00:37:55.660 Like one of these things has to give like right now, this is the reality. And of course the

00:38:00.920 administration knows this. Stephen Miller knows this. I don't think I'm telling Stephen Miller

00:38:04.040 anything he doesn't know. So what's he doing here? Well, I mean, he could be trying to build

00:38:10.460 rhetorically justification for taking one of those three or one of those first two actions.

00:38:14.760 Because right now we're only doing number three. So maybe he's trying to build that preference

00:38:18.840 cascade. Maybe he's trying to normalize the idea that something drastic has to happen. That's what

00:38:24.240 I'm hoping. I hope that's what the rhetorical build is for. Because if not, then we really are

00:38:30.060 definitely screwed. Like we are in a very serious, bad situation. So I really hope that Miller,

00:38:36.560 that, you know, this is, this is what the administration is, is moving towards because

00:38:40.080 we simply can't, we can't sit around and say, yeah, voter fraud's real. And yeah, we know that

00:38:45.780 the judges are actively defending the voter fraud, but we're not going to defy the judges and we're

00:38:51.100 going to respect the voter fraud elections. You can't do that. That's like, I'm not committing

00:38:56.500 suicide for the rule of law, which we're not even following. I'm not, I'm not committing

00:39:02.680 suicide so that principled conservatives can get themselves thrown in jail while they follow

00:39:09.020 the rules and the other guys don't like that's dumb and you can't make me.

00:39:14.380 So if that's how you want to, you know, if you want to spend the next 20 years cooling

00:39:21.160 yourselves in a, your heels in a federal penitentiary, because you didn't want to violate

00:39:25.280 the sanctity of, I don't know, judicial, whatever, fine. I'm not doing it. So, uh, someone needs

00:39:32.540 to figure this out. Like, like pretty serious action he's taken again, has to be optical,

00:39:37.180 just like in, in, in Minneapolis, you don't want to, in Minnesota, you don't want to just,

00:39:42.120 you know, deploy the guard right away and just start cracking skulls and being like,

00:39:45.900 this is how it is. Cause you gotta, you know, you still have to worry about public opinion.

00:39:49.700 That's a, it's a real thing in any regime, but it's still very much a thing in ours.

00:39:53.640 So you can't just go in there, but you gotta have a plan. And, uh, Trump administration has

00:39:59.380 started deploying. I don't know. They've only been around, you know, for a year at this point.

00:40:03.260 Uh, so, you know, but, but, uh, you know, you've only got four. So, you know, one quarter

00:40:07.560 of the time is basically already toast. Uh, and, and, you know, this is also where it

00:40:13.120 becomes really important to recognize, uh, the dynamic that's at play in the American

00:40:18.380 power structure right now, because, uh, obviously, um, at this point, Congress doesn't really

00:40:24.720 matter. The Republicans have had control of both houses the whole time that Trump has

00:40:29.780 been in office since he returned. Nothing has been done. The big, beautiful bill went through.

00:40:33.920 That's it. And yeah, it's good to have the funding. We needed that from ice. Obviously

00:40:37.800 that's great. And I'm glad that happened, but otherwise Congress has been completely useless.

00:40:41.600 They have not been turning. They, you know, if they were serious, they'd have been turning

00:40:45.820 every one of Trump's executive orders into law immediately. Uh, we wouldn't even need to

00:40:50.160 take any of this stuff to court because it would be already a law everywhere. And, uh, you

00:40:56.120 know, the, the, the Republican Congress is just complete joke. Uh, you know, they're useless.

00:40:59.980 And so you have to understand that more or less now Congress is just like vestigial. It's no longer

00:41:06.040 relevant to American politics. American politics, uh, exists between, uh, the executive branch and

00:41:13.080 the judicial branch. Uh, you have the executive, uh, who can take immediate action and the judges

00:41:18.620 that still have, uh, the cultural cache to, to stop these things. But Congress is basically

00:41:25.240 completely defunct at this point, which is again, what you kind of expect as you move towards

00:41:29.660 empire as a Republicans. Uh, it's, it's the judges and the Kings that matter. It's not the,

00:41:34.440 you know, the, the legislature stops to matter really. And so, uh, you have this, you know,

00:41:40.160 shootout in a weird way. It's kind of half the executive branch and half judiciary, uh, versus

00:41:45.100 the other half of the executive branch and half judiciary. So it's, it's like Trump and the

00:41:48.980 amount of the federal government he controls versus the bureaucracy that he's still trying to

00:41:52.960 get ahold of versus, uh, like most of the lower courts and a lot of the circuit courts,

00:41:58.480 but like the Supreme court's kind of conservative, but not really because of like how terrible,

00:42:02.900 like, you know, people like, uh, Barrett are, uh, but like ultimately, you know, that's the battle

00:42:09.680 going on between these people. And so really, you know, we, we talk about, Oh, the midterms,

00:42:14.460 the midterms, the midterms, but the midterms only really matter because they keep Congress from like

00:42:19.560 impeaching you or doing a bunch of investigations, calling people to testify. Basically, like if the Dems

00:42:25.580 get Congress, they're just going to like call every Trump official to testify every single day

00:42:30.500 and just grind the entire administration to a halt. So that's really the only reason that

00:42:34.680 midterms matter, not because they're going to like pass any laws or anything. Congress is dead.

00:42:39.380 Legislation is more or less done in the United States. We can't pass budgets anymore. We can't

00:42:43.420 pass any real, uh, you know, meaningful bills anymore. We don't do any of that stuff. Uh, it's really

00:42:49.920 all just governing out of the executive branch and then seeing what the Congress will say. You know,

00:42:55.060 the federal bureaucracy tries to do its thing. The executive branch tries to do its thing.

00:42:59.240 And then Congress just kind of like, or, uh, you know, sits around while the judges mediate all

00:43:03.960 this. And so that's really the power dynamic that's in, in play in modern America. Uh, so let's see.

00:43:11.040 Uh, Oh, other events that occurred during this, of course, we had, uh, a ice involved shooting. Uh,

00:43:17.940 this was, uh, so originally, uh, you know, the, the story coming out of the media was of course,

00:43:23.140 you know, poor, innocent, uh, you know, person in Minnesota, uh, Minneapolis gets shot in the

00:43:28.700 leg. Uh, what we discover is actually there was a illegal Venezuelan migrant fleeing from,

00:43:34.200 uh, the ice agents, uh, as he was fleeing, uh, two other Venezuelan migrants. I believe both

00:43:40.340 of them were Venezuelan, uh, ambushed the ice officer and started beating him with a shovel and

00:43:45.440 a broom. And then defending himself from three assailants, uh, uh, one with which most certainly

00:43:52.500 had a deadly weapon. Uh, the, uh, officer involved, uh, drew his weapon and fired and hit, uh, the

00:43:58.860 original guy who's chasing in the leg. Uh, now all of these people have been, uh, apprehended.

00:44:05.380 Uh, and, uh, so I'm, I'm assuming they will all be deported. Uh, but, uh, you know, this,

00:44:11.720 this is the kind of story that's constantly coming out. We see, uh, you probably saw the footage of,

00:44:16.180 you know, some, some 17 year old getting grabbed from target. Everyone freaked out until it came

00:44:20.340 out that actually that 17 year old had been again, assaulting ice agents. Uh, you know,

00:44:24.360 we've gotten a lot of these stories where it's, Oh, this crazy ice violence. And then it turns out

00:44:28.440 actually it's entirely, uh, justified. You know, you have a solid deadly weapon, but it's okay because

00:44:34.080 the Democrats are, you know, the media is geared up every, every, it doesn't matter what actually

00:44:38.720 happened. And all of these ice is always guilty. It's always too much violence. Again, this is

00:44:42.680 going to come, you know, steal yourself. There will be a legitimate like bad shoot or, you know,

00:44:47.780 ugly arrest or something like that. And, uh, you know, as long as that's still not the vast majority

00:44:52.400 of apprehensions, then that shouldn't happen, but we need to continue what we're doing. Uh, but, uh,

00:44:57.180 you know, you just need to prepare yourself, but even, you know, even then most of this stuff coming

00:45:00.920 out is just complete garbage. It's all lies. The media is spreading about ice agents and kind of what,

00:45:05.720 what tactics they're deploying. Uh, so, you know, this, this situation I think is ultimately

00:45:10.680 probably going to calm down. Minnesota is too cold. Uh, it's too hard for activists to get up

00:45:15.900 there. I don't think they can keep it going for too long. It's clear that Tim Walls has already

00:45:20.020 kind of met a threshold. He is uncomfortable with when it comes to violence and that kind of thing,

00:45:24.200 uh, in, in the state. Uh, but, but don't, don't be mistaken. There's going to be more of this,

00:45:30.480 you know, there'll be another flashpoint. We've already seen this as ice deploys. There'll be another

00:45:34.400 liberal state. They'll, they'll ramp up operations, someone else. But I do have to say,

00:45:38.240 I'm very glad to see the Trump administration, not back down from this. The easiest thing in

00:45:41.060 the world would have been to say, okay, we're going to put a pause on this until we can review

00:45:44.920 whatever, blah, blah, blah. You know, all the, all the HR cover your butt stuff. And instead,

00:45:51.160 uh, the Trump administration said, Nope, we're deporting you 10 times harder. The wall is getting

00:45:55.860 10 feet taller. Uh, you know, we're, we're, we're recruiting any more people, you know, this

00:45:59.700 is going to happen. And I'm glad to see that because there's been a lot of, uh, screaming

00:46:03.440 and yelling, uh, all the weak willed, um, you know, people I've been worrying you about

00:46:08.060 for years are out there doing it. We've got a bunch of libertarians, Justin Amash and

00:46:12.340 all these people going out. I can't believe that they, you know, the ice would arrest somebody.

00:46:17.240 Uh, you know, can you believe that the, you know, their agents of the government are arresting

00:46:21.660 people? Cause you know, there's this thing among libertarians where, you know, there are

00:46:25.840 open borders, libertarians, which are just insane people. They're, they're the same people

00:46:29.680 who are for lowering the age of consent and all that stuff. Uh, but then you also have

00:46:33.220 these guys who try to act as if they're like reasonable libertarians. Uh, and then they're

00:46:37.540 like, Oh yeah, I'm one of those reasonable libertarians. I don't believe in open borders

00:46:40.120 unless, you know, we build a wall or we fund deportations or, you know, federal agents go

00:46:47.640 out and issue lawful deportations, or we go after employers or we go after, you know, remittances

00:46:54.040 and money transfers. And then all of a sudden, Oh, libertarianism. We, we can't involve the

00:46:58.500 state. Well, I had, I don't want to tell you guys, but you can't have borders without

00:47:01.240 state. So, you know, if you're a libertarian for the abolishment for the state, you're also

00:47:06.720 a libertarian in favor of open borders. That's all there is to it. These people don't have

00:47:11.040 another plan. And so the minute you see actual border enforcement, and this is why these people

00:47:15.160 are so bad. I have to hear constantly, Oh, or, and we're the good libertarians. Why do you

00:47:18.580 lump us all together? Think about Rand Paul and Thomas Massey. Thomas Massey is garbage

00:47:22.080 on this stuff, man. Thomas Massey hates immigration enforcement. He'll pay lip service to it,

00:47:27.160 but he denies funding. He's always attacking everybody who's involved at like, it's just

00:47:32.200 garbage. He's good on other stuff. Don't get me wrong, but this is the thing. This is, you know,

00:47:36.780 I'm sorry, but at the end of the day, immigration is my issue. It's the issue. I'm not a one issue

00:47:42.120 voter, but I'm pretty close. Okay. It's either agreement, you know, immigration reform or the

00:47:47.280 country comes apart. It's complete disaster. Like the country's over. We have to do this.

00:47:51.600 So if you're a libertarian, who's great on everything else, great in foreign policy,

00:47:55.080 great on, I don't know, Israel or whatever, everyone's cheering for great. But if you're

00:47:58.840 against border enforcement, I don't care. You don't matter to me. You're useless. Same thing

00:48:03.180 with people like James Lindsay. He's out there saying, Oh, you know, the DHS is full of, um,

00:48:08.520 you know, woke, right people. And they all need to be fired. Cause he's exactly who we told you

00:48:12.440 where he was the entire time. He's just a leftist who hates conservatives and is going to go

00:48:16.520 after the administration and try to dox people and get them fired. That's who James is. It's who

00:48:20.460 he's always been. Nothing about this has changed. He just conned a bunch of idiots into believing

00:48:24.780 he was anything else. And so, you know, it doesn't matter him, libertarians, whatever. Like it's all

00:48:29.660 the worst people who are out there pretending like they don't know what's going on. Now, again,

00:48:34.380 there are caveat, caveat, caveat. There are good libertarians out there. You know, I go on Tom

00:48:38.760 would show. I like Tom. He's a smart guy. He's practical, but the vast majority of them are not.

00:48:43.360 And they just won't admit it. The minute you put their ideology to a real world test,

00:48:49.540 they simply fall apart. And so, uh, you know, that that's kind of the level of betrayal you'd

00:48:53.980 expect from these people, but you know, here we are. Uh, so I, like I said, I don't think this is

00:48:58.620 going to be the final flash point. I don't think it's all going to pop off in Minnesota. I'm not

00:49:02.380 saying, you know, the civil war is coming and be ready. I'm just saying, uh, you know, the, the build

00:49:07.240 here, the rhetorical build, uh, the, the build in violence, uh, the build in allowances in from,

00:49:13.060 uh, in violence from state officials, uh, the, the direct threats issued by sitting politicians to

00:49:19.280 the Trump administration, uh, to, to law enforcement officers and others. There's only one way this goes,

00:49:24.740 man. There's only one way this goes. Uh, you know, when we know that judges are involved in

00:49:29.380 voter fraud and they're going to continue to push that, uh, and defend that, like there are only so

00:49:34.720 many options, you know, and I'm just trying to be practical again. I'm not trying to, you know,

00:49:39.020 talk people into anything crazy. I'm not trying to, you know, rhetorically escalate the situation.

00:49:43.520 I'm just giving you the facts on the ground and where they can go. And I think, you know,

00:49:48.100 we have to be honest about that. All right, guys, let's go to the questions of the people here real

00:49:52.380 quick. Let's see. Uh, no, I'm not grim from red, uh, red hood says, or a farming more like

00:50:03.180 or in farming. I see what you did there. Thank you very much. I appreciate you supporting the show.

00:50:08.360 Florida Henry says, uh, contrast this with the less response to the murder of arena.

00:50:12.180 Of course, exactly. Right. Like they don't care. They don't care if some young, uh, innocent person,

00:50:17.700 uh, an immigrant, a kind of person they're supposed to care about immigrant from Ukraine.

00:50:21.400 They're one of the current hobby horses. They can't even, they can't even spend 10 seconds

00:50:25.540 talking about how, you know, uh, terrible that was. They can't look at it at all. Um, so yeah,

00:50:30.760 I mean, this is, uh, obviously that, you know, we could call them hypocrites, but you know,

00:50:35.140 what's the point at this point? They're just, they're just enemies. They're just people who

00:50:38.260 want, uh, you know, the country destroyed. They want a lot of people dead and they have to be

00:50:42.920 opposed. That's all there is to it. Uh, red red hood says, I want us to win, but like nobody gets

00:50:50.560 hurt. Yes. A hundred percent. That is very much the attitude of libertarians and sadly some,

00:50:56.320 some conservative commentators as well. You know, I, I want to win. I want to defeat my

00:51:00.720 enemy, but I don't want to, uh, break any, any, uh, any, uh, artificial fake rules. I don't want

00:51:07.360 anyone to get hurt. Uh, I want victory without any cost. Uh, that really is honestly, you know,

00:51:13.080 the conservative and often the libertarian mindset in a nutshell. I want victory, but I don't want it

00:51:17.580 to cost me anything. Um, and that's just not how it works. Uh, Sean Weiland says, actually there are

00:51:24.000 no grassroots revolutions. Any revolution is a by-product of highly organized group of consensus

00:51:28.220 and professional organizers. Yes, this is elite theory 101. I largely agree with that. I don't

00:51:32.820 want to say there's never any popular energy that can lead to uprisings, but I do want to be clear

00:51:37.720 that ultimately for these things to convert into real successful movements. Yes, they need exactly

00:51:41.640 what you're talking about. And even when, uh, you know, often we see things that look organic,

00:51:46.140 we should recognize that many, many times they are astroturf. So especially in this case,

00:51:50.280 in Minnesota, Sean, I'm a hundred percent with you. Uh, this is obviously organized. Antifa's

00:51:54.340 involved. NGOs are involved. Uh, you know, the, like the, the, the, the governor of Minnesota,

00:51:59.300 the police in Minnesota, like this, you know, this is a, a group effort of activists working

00:52:05.000 together to produce a result. None of this is organic. You are not watching an organic movement.

00:52:09.460 You are watching elite coordination. Tiny stupid demon says, I'm trying to imagine alternative

00:52:14.980 history timeline. We're not only did the Southern States not to see, but instead of staying in the

00:52:19.980 union, uh, and being sent giant trainloads of cash on a monthly basis. Yeah. Right. Wouldn't that have

00:52:24.720 been great? Yeah. I mean, it's, it's not a poor analogy for what's happening here. You're absolutely

00:52:32.140 right. Uh, Eagle actual says, Hey, Oren, I had a crazy guy come to my church with a knife a few months

00:52:38.560 ago, but luckily the entire back row was full of guys prepared with this kind of thing. No one was hurt.

00:52:42.980 Wife was terrified though. Well, I am, I'm very happy to hear that no one was hurt. Uh, I am very

00:52:50.340 happy to hear that the men of your church, uh, took their duty to protect seriously. Obviously these are

00:52:56.080 very dangerous times. People enjoy attacking houses of worship. Uh, our enemies are satanic. They do hate

00:53:02.620 Christianity. They do hate Christ and Christians. They will do violence in houses of worship. Uh, so thank

00:53:08.920 God, uh, that no one was hurt. Thank God that the men of your church were prepared. And just a reminder,

00:53:14.560 everyone needs to be prepared guys. Everyone goes to church with a gun. If you're a guy,

00:53:18.460 that's just what you should be doing. You should be training. You should be preparing. It is your job.

00:53:23.220 Now, don't get me wrong. Your church should also, you know, my church has a security team of, uh, you

00:53:27.520 know, of, of ex-military and police officers who are constantly watching, you know, entrances and exits

00:53:32.460 and all those things. Uh, but you, you and on you listening, you, you need to have a firearm. You need

00:53:38.640 to be practicing in with it. You need to be training. You need to be taking everywhere.

00:53:42.400 You take it to church. You take it to work. You take it where you are. You need to be armed and

00:53:47.660 you need to be prepared. Leftists are out there. They are dangerous. They weren't, they want to hurt

00:53:51.820 people. Uh, it's important that you are prepared. And I'm glad to hear that in this case, uh, you guys

00:53:57.000 were able to protect your church. Trey Cook Nixon says, I'm tired of living and most easily. Yeah.

00:54:02.320 Star Wars names everywhere, man. Star Wars names everywhere. He also says a big challenge for us in

00:54:08.560 is that the boomers and too many Gen Xers hate discomfort, hoping we get more progress, uh,

00:54:14.360 when they are finally out of power. Yeah. I mean, look, I get it. You know, the, the boomers wanted

00:54:19.660 to believe the, whatever conservatives tell you boomer right-wingers are just as big and bought

00:54:25.300 into the end of history as the left is. They thought politics was over. They had won. You don't have to

00:54:30.480 worry about existential politics anymore. You don't have to worry about violence. You don't have to worry

00:54:33.980 about, you know, real contention, real moral, because we kind of solved all that. We beat

00:54:38.180 Hitler. We conquered the world. Yeah. U S is in charge. We're number one. Uh, we're, you know,

00:54:42.860 we got the constitution. It's just Liberty and freedom for here on out. That's not the case.

00:54:47.280 Like that's not where we're at. And, and, and that mentality is going to go away with the boomers.

00:54:51.720 Uh, but don't fool yourself. Boomers are also, you know, the majority of white people in the

00:54:58.520 United States are not the majority, but they are a large percentage of, you know, the majority of

00:55:02.060 them are white. They are more, and therefore they are more likely to vote Republican right wing.

00:55:07.280 Like they are a huge chunk of the right winning elections. So as, as much as you might be frustrated

00:55:14.860 with the boomers, uh, and some of their mentality when it comes to into history and these things,

00:55:18.980 don't be so excited about their demise because there is unfortunately a demographic reality

00:55:26.060 sitting behind the loss of the boomers. Uh, so that will be a double-edged sword. Don't

00:55:30.260 think that that just solves all your problems. Uh, Michael says, are you familiar with the name

00:55:35.500 Michael Oakeshott, uh, Oakeshott, and if not, uh, recommending, uh, reading him particularly

00:55:40.740 recommend reading his human, uh, his book, human conduct. I am familiar with Michael Oakeshott

00:55:45.900 though. I've never read any Oakeshott. I do know, uh, for instance, uh, my buddy, uh,

00:55:50.460 Carl Benjamin is a fan. I know he's mentioned his philosophy several times. Uh, I have just

00:55:55.820 not gotten to stuff maybe one day, but right now my reading list is, uh, basically Mount

00:56:00.740 Everest. So I simply cannot add another book at the moment, but thank you for the

00:56:04.820 recommendation. Enlightenment, uh, says, uh, or sorry, Elijah Timons. I don't know how

00:56:10.360 that is enlightenment. I wish the right would expose or dispose of the idea of the

00:56:15.340 immaculate organic protest and rejection of paying activists, uh, and the rejection

00:56:20.160 of paying activists with patrons. Yeah, we're working on that, man. I'm with you every day.

00:56:25.040 That's what we're here. We, we check into the mines and we, and we go in the mines and

00:56:29.340 we just go in there and we just, uh, try to get all the coal out. We're going to clear

00:56:33.060 all the coal out and we're going to make sure it's nothing but diamonds. Um, we're going

00:56:37.500 to, we're going to change the rights perception of, of, and political reality. It's going to

00:56:41.380 happen. It's happening slowly. You can look at the rhetoric, the language, the

00:56:45.200 understanding, the takes, they're all filtering into big outlets, to big names. I hear, you

00:56:51.060 know, the, the, the most important people in the world echo points that we were desperately

00:56:54.820 trying to get, uh, you know, onto Twitter five years ago. Uh, so it's coming. It's, I

00:56:59.720 know it's frustrating. I know people get tired of hearing me, you know, repeat some of this

00:57:03.620 stuff, but I promise, man, I'm doing it for a reason. Like I, there, there are people who

00:57:07.060 have been here from the beginning and to them, they've heard this message 10 times over

00:57:10.820 and they're like, Oh boy, orange at it again. But trust me, there's a lot of people who are

00:57:14.360 the first time are watching this and they're like, Oh, this makes sense. Or they're sending

00:57:17.840 it to their, their, you know, their, their, their grandparents or something. And they're

00:57:22.960 shifting that. So we just have to keep at it. I know it's frustrating. I know it's a long

00:57:26.800 slog, but this is how it works. Okay. You just, just repetition is the foundation of pedagogy.

00:57:32.640 You have to teach these people. That's not how politics works. They were completely brainwashed

00:57:36.700 a different way. And it's going to take us a while to undo that brainwashing. And that's

00:57:40.460 just part of the slog. And then Grimm also says, uh, to be honest, I'm at the point where

00:57:46.180 I don't necessarily mind a blank check for ice, uh, to do what it takes, especially after

00:57:50.820 rewatching last night's pony express. Yeah. I mean, you know, of course, you know, blank

00:57:55.820 check is, is a little, uh, much, but I don't mind, you know, them getting a large amount of

00:58:01.120 funding. I said this when they first got the big funding from the big, beautiful bill, people

00:58:06.020 are saying, Oh, I can't believe they're signing on for this island size funding, government

00:58:08.920 spending. It's like, guys, you have to understand we're going to need a military sized force that

00:58:13.820 is largely loyal to Donald Trump and the Trump administration to get this done. And that's

00:58:18.320 going to be expensive. And I get it. Libertarians don't like that. Oh, the government, I understand

00:58:22.240 tough. Sorry. We need it. I'm sure the money will be wasted in places. I'm sure there will

00:58:27.680 be graft. I'm sure the government will grow. We got to get these people out of the country.

00:58:31.460 We have to like, we have to, you know, sometimes some, if you're, if your leg is caught in a trap

00:58:37.260 and you know, cutting off your leg is bad, but the other option is dying, you know, in the middle

00:58:42.520 of the forest, then you might just have to cut off the leg. It doesn't mean I want to do it. It

00:58:46.640 doesn't mean I want to go around without a leg. You know, I don't want the government to get more

00:58:50.000 powerful. I don't want to waste money. But at this point, if you can explain to me another way we can

00:58:55.460 get these people out of the country without doing any of that stuff, let me know. Otherwise we got to do

00:58:59.920 this. Okay. You know, I agree. Ultimately we should go after other non-ice stuff. We absolutely

00:59:06.080 should be punishing employers. We should be taxing remittances. We should be doing everything we can

00:59:11.040 with soft power. And if I had one criticism of the administration, it'd be this. We seem to be doing

00:59:16.620 more with hard power, which I love, but we're not doing enough with soft power. We're not going after

00:59:21.900 the businesses. We're not passing E-Verify. We're not taxing remittances significantly to, to,

00:59:26.660 you know, get rid of the incentives. We're not banning, you know, illegal immigrants from education

00:59:31.400 and hospitals. This is all soft power stuff and we can do it very quickly and we can solve a lot

00:59:36.560 of problems if we do it. I know a lot of that stuff's harder because it involves, you have to

00:59:39.900 deal with donor class and the business community. And there's going to be lawsuits about all this stuff

00:59:43.880 too. But I would like to see the administration deploy soft power as well as hard power in this

00:59:49.140 endeavor. All right, guys, we're going to wrap this up. Thanks for sticking with me. Like I said,

00:59:52.940 it's still recovering. So a little difficult to be on camera, but I should be back on Monday.

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - January 16, 2026

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