The Ben Shapiro Show - October 15, 2026


Allie Beth Stuckey Dismantles a Feminist In One Clip

Hosted by
Mentioned
Tucker Carlson Came for Me. Here's My Response.

Episode Stats


Length

28 minutes

Words per minute

210.28

Word count

5,916

Sentence count

414

Harmful content

Misogyny

70

sentences flagged

Toxicity

24

sentences flagged

Hate speech

51

sentences flagged


Transcript

Transcripts from "The Ben Shapiro Show" are sourced from the Knowledge Fight Interactive Search Tool. Explore them interactively here.
Misogyny classifications generated with MilaNLProc/bert-base-uncased-ear-misogyny .
Toxicity classifications generated with s-nlp/roberta_toxicity_classifier .
Hate speech classifications generated with facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target .
Hosts, guests, and mentioned names generated with spaCy (en_core_web_sm), reconciled against Wikidata.
00:00:10.000 What is even happening right now? 1.00
00:00:12.000 Why are these women screaming? 1.00
00:00:14.000 Do they have lives or jobs? 1.00
00:00:16.000 Why is any of this happening? 1.00
00:00:24.000 Okay, so that's a bunch of women shrieking like insane harpies. 1.00
00:00:29.000 Apparently, that was in response to the Cornell 7 case, which is weird because if Jane Doe in that case had started yelling her resistance at literally any time during the night in question, everything would have stopped because by her own testimony, she consented to. 1.00
00:00:43.000 Everything, but that's not stopping the ladies. 1.00
00:00:46.000 Some of the ladies going cray out there. 0.99
00:00:49.000 Michael Tracy went to one of these Cornell 7 protests and then was promptly hit in the face.
00:01:06.000 At the ladies smacking Michael Tracy.
00:01:08.000 And of course, you remember all the women who were screaming, going crazy over the Lindsey Clancy trial, claiming that they were basically in the same situation as Lindsey Clancy, and then just chucking ice into the bathtub because they want to murder their toddlers or something.
00:01:33.000 Whoa.
00:01:34.000 Well, this raises a bit of a deeper question. 1.00
00:01:36.000 And we really do have to ask it why are so many women acting in solidarity? 1.00
00:01:39.000 With all of this crazy. 1.00
00:01:41.000 What is the driving factor here? 0.99
00:01:42.000 Now, there is one unifying philosophical factor behind the causes the feminist movement now supports, from Jane Doe to Lindsey Clancy to ripping on Shane Gillis for noting that women are dressing not well at the gym. 1.00
00:01:53.000 And that is lack of female responsibility. 0.94
00:01:55.000 Some people are noticing Bridget Fettesy, who is hilarious. 0.99
00:01:59.000 Obviously, I'm friendly with Bridget. 0.79
00:02:01.000 She wrote maybe an all time great piece over at The Spectator describing her supposed reaction to Shane Gillis' comments I was mid hip thrust when I found out Shane Gillis had called me a whore.
00:02:12.000 Technically, I found out four hours later when I reviewed the footage of Saturday Night Live.
00:02:16.000 My tripod was on the bench.
00:02:17.000 My ring light was clamped to the squat rack.
00:02:19.000 My boyfriend, Tanner, was holding the backup phone for the side angle.
00:02:22.000 Tanner films all my content.
00:02:23.000 He's not allowed to look at me.
00:02:25.000 The joke was about how women dress at the gym.
00:02:27.000 I know it was about me because everything is.
00:02:29.000 So I did what any survivor would do I went to my car and filmed myself crying.
00:02:33.000 It took 11 takes because the lighting in a Range Rover is unforgiving and grief is no excuse for a bad shot. 0.83
00:02:39.000 Then I put on the shortest shorts I own, went back inside, and filmed my ass from three angles with the caption Does this outfit work for you, Shane Gillis? 0.97
00:02:45.000 I wanted to send him a message that my body is not for men. 0.98
00:02:48.000 To make sure Shane got the message, I tagged him.
00:02:50.000 Then I tagged every man I follow.
00:02:52.000 Some people say my response proved his point. 0.99
00:02:54.000 These people are rapists. 1.00
00:02:57.000 She goes on like this. 1.00
00:02:59.000 And it's really, really funny.
00:03:01.000 When the Lindsay Clancy trial started, I knew I had to speak.
00:03:04.000 I'm not a mother, I'm a dog mom.
00:03:05.000 But I posted a 10 minute video about postpartum psychosis anyway, captioned Same Lindsay, because when Bellamy was up, he chewed through my exercise bands and I have never recovered.
00:03:14.000 Then I filmed myself throwing ice cubes at the bathtub to get the rage out. 0.56
00:03:17.000 It was that or kill my dog.
00:03:19.000 And then the Cornell story broke.
00:03:20.000 I posted I am Jane Doe in seven separate videos.
00:03:22.000 I've never been to Cornell.
00:03:24.000 I've never been sexually assaulted, but I have been in a gangbang.
00:03:26.000 Solidarity means centering yourself in other people's trauma in front of a camera with good lighting.
00:03:32.000 The only woman I can't support is Sydney Sweeney. 0.92
00:03:34.000 She took off her top for a prediction market app and covered herself with two footballs, setting women back 100 years. 0.91
00:03:39.000 It's sickening. 0.97
00:03:40.000 She got paid.
00:03:41.000 I would never take my top off for money.
00:03:42.000 I take my top off for awareness. 0.88
00:03:49.000 Points to Bridget.
00:03:50.000 I mean, it's true, but.
00:03:52.000 There is, again, something serious going on here, like the complete mental breakdown of a society.
00:03:58.000 There is a philosophy, and that philosophy goes something like this The things I feel are real, and the rest of the world must conform to it.
00:04:04.000 The world is me, and I am the world.
00:04:08.000 The belief that whatever you think and feel about the world is the most important thing in the world, and that all of reality must conform to your demands.
00:04:14.000 That's how it's held across the sexes. 0.95
00:04:16.000 The downstream effects are horrible.
00:04:17.000 It's promoted, obviously, by the legacy media.
00:04:21.000 So, for example, the New York Times had a long piece yesterday about a woman. who was married for something like 27 years and had children and decided it was time to come out as a lesbian and just blow up her life. 0.99
00:04:33.000 And this is good. 0.98
00:04:35.000 It's good that she did that because she must live her truth.
00:04:38.000 You see, personal responsibility, the obligations you owe to others, including your spouse and your children, that means nothing as long as you feel something on the inside of you.
00:04:46.000 That's the thing that really matters.
00:04:48.000 And all of society must conform to that. 0.99
00:04:49.000 That's what the trans movement at its extremes is about. 0.85
00:04:51.000 The trans movement is the extreme of that movement.
00:04:53.000 I feel like something I am not. 0.76
00:04:55.000 The rest of society must pretend along with me that I am that thing.
00:04:58.000 And if you refuse, then that is a form of erasure.
00:05:02.000 But the softer version is I'm going to blow up my life at 50, and then the New York Times will do a big profile about me because I am a lesbian, even though I have many children.
00:05:12.000 Quote sitting at her desk on a July evening, Shelly opened her tablet and signed on to a weekly Zoom support group meeting for lesbians coming out later in life.
00:05:19.000 She smiled as five other group members popped onto her screen.
00:05:22.000 Weeks ago, these women had been strangers.
00:05:24.000 Now they were among the only people who truly understood her.
00:05:28.000 Like Shelly, who was 50, they knew how frightening it felt to come out after years of hiding.
00:05:32.000 Like Shelly, several of the women were still married to the men they had been with for decades.
00:05:36.000 And like Shelly, they wondered, how do I do this?
00:05:38.000 Am I too old for this?
00:05:39.000 Will I lose everything?
00:05:40.000 You see, they're the victims.
00:05:41.000 They're the victims, not their husbands, not their children, not their friends, not their family.
00:05:46.000 They are the victims because they feel a thing and all of life must reorganize itself to their whims.
00:05:52.000 The leader of the group, Anne Marie Zanzal, a hospice chaplain turned coming out coach, kicked the meeting off with a roll call.
00:05:59.000 Shelly told the group on Zoom, I decided to sign up for a kayaking tour just by myself.
00:06:03.000 At sunset on the estuaries that lead into the Atlantic Ocean, it had all been so peaceful.
00:06:07.000 It felt surreal, Shelly shared.
00:06:09.000 There's nothing out there but wildlife.
00:06:10.000 As the sun set, a bald eagle flew by.
00:06:12.000 It was lovely, Shelly said, shaking her head in wonder.
00:06:14.000 Afterward, Shelly thought about how different she would have felt if she had been out there with her husband, pretending to be someone she is not.
00:06:20.000 It wouldn't have been as lovely, Shelly said.
00:06:22.000 No, Zanzal agreed.
00:06:24.000 No, Shelly repeated, her voice soft but firm.
00:06:27.000 With Zanzal's help, she was starting to accept that any unhappiness her children felt was likely to fade with time. 0.60
00:06:31.000 You see, her kids don't matter.
00:06:33.000 Her kids being in, that's not the priority.
00:06:34.000 The priority is that she feels complete when she's sitting alone in a river watching an eagle.
00:06:40.000 Not that she blew up her kid's life.
00:06:43.000 One of the things I thought about a lot is if I don't come out, if I keep living the way I have been, I'm just not going to have happiness, she said.
00:06:49.000 Okay, well, she doesn't sound like she's particularly happy now, so there's that.
00:06:53.000 It turns out that long, long based happiness, happiness over the course of a life, is not about you feeling fulfilled in any one given moment.
00:07:01.000 That is not how it works.
00:07:03.000 It is about building a life of meaning and value.
00:07:07.000 But again, we have an entire society that is built around the opposite now that your level of personal fulfillment is the only thing that matters. 0.95
00:07:13.000 Everybody else be damned.
00:07:14.000 And by the way, if this story read, if the title of this story were divorcing at 50 from a much younger woman, Bob found a coach, no one would be sympathetic. 0.97
00:07:26.000 If this were just some 50 year old dude who decided, hey, I'm not sexually fulfilled because, you know, my wife is also 50, she's not as hot as she used to be, she kind of fell out of shape. 0.51
00:07:34.000 And now, you know, I really want to bang the hot young thing down the hall. 0.62
00:07:37.000 And so that's really what my heart tells me. 0.99
00:07:39.000 My heart tells me that that is the priority.
00:07:41.000 I can't find happiness. 1.00
00:07:42.000 You think I'm going to find happiness by being with this schlub? 1.00
00:07:45.000 I'm out.
00:07:46.000 Sure, I have three kids under the age of 20, but the important thing is that I find my peace.
00:07:52.000 That's the important thing.
00:07:53.000 That mentality destroys lives, including the lives of the people who live it, because that's not where happiness comes from.
00:07:59.000 Happiness does not come from you deciding that the world must conform to your vision of yourself.
00:08:04.000 There's a tweet that was kind of widely trafficked the other day on X. Michael Moles commented on it, so did Matt Walsh.
00:08:14.000 The tweet was from an account called Dom Investing.
00:08:16.000 Quote, My wife and I decided to get a divorce.
00:08:18.000 There were no fights, just two adults who realized they drifted apart from each other.
00:08:22.000 This is probably the hardest thing I had to go through.
00:08:24.000 First of all, telling our girls, seeing them so sad was heartbreaking.
00:08:27.000 But we are still a team as parents, and we'll do everything for them.
00:08:29.000 No, you won't.
00:08:30.000 You literally didn't.
00:08:32.000 Nothing went wrong. 1.00
00:08:33.000 She didn't abuse you. 0.99
00:08:35.000 You blew up your family because you're both narcissists. 0.61
00:08:35.000 You didn't abuse her. 0.61
00:08:38.000 That's what happened.
00:08:40.000 We will do everything for them.
00:08:41.000 The one thing you could have done for them is to stay together.
00:08:41.000 No, you won't.
00:08:44.000 You want your children to be happy? 1.00
00:08:46.000 Model awesome wife husband behavior for your kids. 1.00
00:08:50.000 That's what you got to do. 1.00
00:08:50.000 You want your kids to be happy? 1.00
00:08:53.000 My kids are very happy kids.
00:08:54.000 One of the reasons for that, there are many, but the biggest reason is that my wife and I have an awesome relationship that we work on all the time.
00:09:00.000 That's what marriage is.
00:09:03.000 And because obviously we're not just mutually committed to each other, we're the same person, right?
00:09:08.000 We became one flesh, and that's the way that it works.
00:09:09.000 When you do that, again, if you've been married for a long time, your spouse is just a part of you.
00:09:14.000 There is no actual real separation between the two of you.
00:09:17.000 Your interests are her interests, her interests are your interests.
00:09:19.000 Your priorities are exactly the same.
00:09:21.000 You're a family unit.
00:09:22.000 You're a unit.
00:09:22.000 Okay.
00:09:24.000 But when you see yourself as just a couple of people who are drifting through life and then you sort of drift apart, you're just a couple of boats and then you just drift apart.
00:09:30.000 And what really matters is that you're drifting in your own waters, and that's what matters.
00:09:35.000 You're doing it wrong.
00:09:36.000 And you're not just wrecking your own life, you're wrecking the life of your kids.
00:09:39.000 Quote, we have to sell our house, the house I wanted to live in forever, and raise my kids in.
00:09:43.000 Going back to a smaller apartment will be rough.
00:09:45.000 I still have a lot to handle.
00:09:47.000 That's why I wasn't active here on X. I'm really grateful for all the people who reached out and asked where I was.
00:09:51.000 This woman will always be a part of my life.
00:09:52.000 She gifted me with two perfect daughters.
00:09:54.000 I wish her all the best.
00:09:55.000 Great memories were made in those years.
00:09:57.000 Well, I mean, that's the important thing the friends you made and then ditched along the way.
00:10:01.000 That really, really matters.
00:10:03.000 Well, this philosophy of narcissism bleeds down.
00:10:06.000 Into every area of our politics.
00:10:07.000 It bleeds down into economics.
00:10:08.000 It bleeds down into social policy.
00:10:10.000 You start with social policy.
00:10:12.000 We'll get to more on this in a moment.
00:10:13.000 First, you know, you have one asset that's probably worth more than all your other assets, maybe combined, and that would be your home title.
00:10:19.000 Now, you're not thinking about how somebody can take the value from that because, hey, I mean, you own your home.
00:10:22.000 Nobody's going to like jack it up on wheels and take it somewhere.
00:10:25.000 But the way that criminals gain access to the asset value of your home is they forge your name on a signature sheet and then they basically steal your home title and they start borrowing against it.
00:10:34.000 Well, you can stop them from doing this by checking out.
00:10:37.000 Home title lock.
00:10:39.000 If you become a victim, Home title lock's expert restoration is backed by up to $1 million to fix the fraud and restore your title.
00:10:45.000 And for cybersecurity awareness month, Home title lock is offering a free extended 30 day trial and free title history report.
00:10:51.000 Just use promo code BEN30 at Home title lock.com and find out if you're already a victim.
00:10:55.000 The AI threat is real.
00:10:56.000 Don't let scammers have the upper hand.
00:10:58.000 That's to Home title lock.com.
00:11:00.000 Promo code BEN30.
00:11:01.000 Get peace of mind.
00:11:02.000 Today again, protect your biggest asset, which of course is probably the value in your home title.
00:11:06.000 Go to Home title lock.com, use promo code BEN30 and get your peace of mind today. 1.00
00:11:12.000 So, again, the sort of bleeding edge of the narcissistic philosophy is the trans movement. 0.99
00:11:16.000 So, the free press and CBS held a debate between Alibeth Stuckey, our friend over at Blaze TV, and a feminist and democratic strategist named Deja Fox. 0.85
00:11:29.000 Here was Alibeth asking the most basic question of all when it came to trans politics Can you even define what a woman is? 1.00
00:11:35.000 That terminology, first of all, there's no such thing as a trans woman because it's not possible to transition your sex.
00:11:42.000 There's male and there is female and there are people who identify as the opposite sex, but we are not who we are by declaration.
00:11:49.000 We don't just get to say, I am the opposite sex and put on different clothes and then you are.
00:11:54.000 And if that is the only definition of what it means to be a woman, then there really is no definition. 0.51
00:12:00.000 I mean, trans women are women is the most nonsensical motto because you can't even define what a woman is. 0.76
00:12:07.000 And so, yes, of course, it sets women back to say, sure, in these spaces, you can have men, you can have boys. 0.98
00:12:14.000 They can take the scholarships. 1.00
00:12:15.000 They can run the races.
00:12:16.000 They can go into the bathroom.
00:12:18.000 They can go into the locker room. 1.00
00:12:19.000 They can say that they are women.
00:12:21.000 And I think it's really important if we're going to define our terms and you're going to say that you are for the empowerment of women and you are to say that you are a feminist, that you are able to actually define what a woman is.
00:12:32.000 So can you tell me what is a woman?
00:12:36.000 Okay, so that was Allie Beth asking a very, very reasonable question. 0.99
00:12:38.000 And here is how Taisha Fox responds 1% of the population here in the United States is trans.
00:12:46.000 And you wouldn't know it from the way Fox News.
00:12:48.000 Runs hundreds of headlines.
00:12:50.000 But again, I want to bring the audience in.
00:12:52.000 You know, trans sports, trans folks playing sports is something we see all the time in the headlines.
00:12:58.000 But has anybody here been personally impacted by a trans athlete?
00:13:03.000 Can you, not a single hand here about that?
00:13:05.000 I want to finish this just with one point, which is that that's because trans athletes make up 0.002% of college athletes.
00:13:15.000 And to your point about what does it mean then to be a danger to women's spaces, the way that we are giving oxygen to this non-issue, this manufactured culture war comes at the cost Of being able to talk about real women's issues, like how the rising cost of gas and groceries probably made it harder for you to get here today.
00:13:37.000 Oh, you know, because the real woman's issue is, you know, like the same as everybody else's issue, which means it's not a woman's issue, it's an everybody issue.
00:13:43.000 So you shouldn't call it a woman's issue.
00:13:44.000 But as Allie Beth points out, well, then why are you guys making this one of your priorities? 0.99
00:13:48.000 Again, you play this idiotic Mott and Bailey game where trans rights are human rights. 0.99
00:13:53.000 And then the minute you're questioned on that, you say, no, no, no, we just need to talk about grocery prices. 0.99
00:13:59.000 I think it's worth noting that three. 1.00
00:14:02.000 High powered feminist organizations list so called trans rights in their list of priorities. 1.00
00:14:08.000 When it comes to Emily's List, it's a powerful feminist organization that exists to support Democratic women who are running for office. 0.99
00:14:15.000 They place abortion and trans rights at the forefront of its cause.
00:14:19.000 The National Organization for Women, a big organization of feminists, abortion and transgenderism are two of the six core priorities for their entity.
00:14:28.000 The 2007 Women's March declared both abortion access and so called trans access.
00:14:34.000 As key to its mission.
00:14:35.000 So, is it really conservatives who are making this a part of the culture war, or is it not feminists who have brought the issue to the forefront? 1.00
00:14:41.000 If it's not important, just say what a woman is. 0.97
00:14:45.000 Of course, Alibeth is totally correct about this, and her opponent could not answer that basic question.
00:14:50.000 Of course, you couldn't answer that question because, again, the core of modern leftism is the idea that reality exists within you.
00:14:56.000 Not that reality is external to you, not that you're defined by nature, not that you are defined by your actual biology.
00:15:04.000 You are defined by what you feel inside.
00:15:06.000 Carl Truman. is the author of a book called The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self.
00:15:10.000 He writes, In the world of political, religious, and economic man, commitment was outwardly directed to those communal beliefs, practices, and institutions that were bigger than the individual, and in which the individual, to the degree that he or she conformed or cooperated with them, found meaning.
00:15:23.000 In the world of psychological man, which he says is sort of modernity, that commitment is first and foremost to the self and is inwardly directed.
00:15:30.000 The philosopher Robert Bella says, quote, is to be realized.
00:15:38.000 And again, what this means is that the more you feel things, the more authentic you are.
00:15:42.000 And so if you want to show people you're really, really authentic, what you do is you go to Las Vegas and you scream like a banshee.
00:15:47.000 That's why that happens.
00:15:48.000 Because what you're showing people is that you are the most version of you that it is possible to be.
00:15:53.000 And any abiding by societal rules is actually an imposition from the outside.
00:15:58.000 Biological sex is an imposition by God or nature on you.
00:16:02.000 The real you, the free floating you who believes that you should have no responsibility for your actions, but total autonomy to do whatever it is that you want to do. 0.99
00:16:11.000 Well, joining me on the line to discuss all of this is Alibeth Stuckey.
00:16:14.000 Obviously, you know who Alibeth is.
00:16:16.000 New York Times bestselling author, speaker, commentator, host of the Blaze TV podcast, Relatable. 0.95
00:16:21.000 Also, she just launched a new pro life cycle pregnancy tracking app for women called AnniKate.
00:16:25.000 Alibeth, thanks so much for the time.
00:16:26.000 Really appreciate it.
00:16:27.000 Thank you so much.
00:16:28.000 So, obviously, you're making some headlines because you did this debate on CBS.
00:16:33.000 And it is pretty astonishing how simple questions tend to puzzle the radical feminist. 0.61
00:16:38.000 Why don't you first tell us how that debate got set up? 1.00
00:16:40.000 How do you think it went? 1.00
00:16:43.000 Yeah, I was super grateful that the free press asked me to debate something like feminism. 1.00
00:16:47.000 Obviously, under the umbrella of feminism, you could talk about all kinds of things.
00:16:51.000 And two things I'm super passionate about debating is the gender issue and abortion, which came up multiple times.
00:16:58.000 And the person I was debating, a Gen Z Democrat who was friends with Gloria Steinem and who had run for Congress at one point, obviously very progressive.
00:17:07.000 And she really fancied herself Kamala Harris or Barack Obama, relied on anecdotes as much as possible.
00:17:16.000 And yeah, I just went in there and did what I like to do, which is tell the truth.
00:17:20.000 And as you know, when you're on the side of telling the truth, debates are really, really easy.
00:17:26.000 So, Alibeth, obviously, the section of the debate that went the most viral is where you used the sort of Matt Walsh question on her with regard to trans politics to ask her to define what a woman is.
00:17:34.000 And as with pretty much all members of the left these days, she had no idea how to answer that question.
00:17:39.000 But that goes to something deeper that you've talked about on your show and we've talked about here, which is the sort of leftist perception that all of reality exists in your tiny brain, that basically your self definition is now the thing that matters and the rest of reality doesn't exist.
00:17:54.000 And you see this manifesting in some pretty Dire ways across our society, people abandoning their families because they have to find, quote unquote, their fulfillment, or people defining themselves by what they think their gender ought to be rather than what their sex actually is.
00:18:06.000 How do you think that's impacting an entire generation of people?
00:18:10.000 Yeah, well, I think Deja, my opponent, is actually very emblematic of the problem that you're talking about and the confusion that you're speaking on because she really couldn't even define her terms. 0.97
00:18:20.000 She fancies herself a women's rights activist. 0.68
00:18:23.000 She is a feminist, was friends with one of the most famous feminists in all of history. 1.00
00:18:28.000 And she couldn't even say what a woman is. 1.00
00:18:30.000 Actually, at the end, she just said, you know, feminism is about everyone. 1.00
00:18:33.000 It's for everyone. 1.00
00:18:34.000 It's about everything and every kind of right.
00:18:36.000 And so that's what happens when you live in this world of moral relativism, when you don't have any structures, don't have any order, don't have any definitions, don't have any transcendent power that you appeal to for a set of moral rules that you're trying to abide by.
00:18:49.000 Everything just gets really confusing.
00:18:52.000 And when your life is confusing and chaotic, you don't even know how to differentiate between black and white and light and darkness and male and female and right and wrong and all of these things.
00:19:02.000 I imagine that that is a very depressing, isolating, dejecting feeling.
00:19:07.000 And so I can't speak for all of Gen Z, all of that generation, but we can start to guess and psychologize, I guess, a little bit about why so many of them are despairing.
00:19:19.000 It's a pretty bleak place to be when you are your highest source of truth.
00:19:27.000 So obviously, you debated the trans issue.
00:19:28.000 You also debated the abortion issue.
00:19:30.000 And the abortion issue, again, always comes down to basic definitions.
00:19:33.000 What does it mean to be a human being with potential versus sort of The left wing perspective, which is that you actually get to define away the life of another human being.
00:19:42.000 You get to basically, it is what you think it is.
00:19:44.000 If you think it's a baby, then it's the most precious thing to you, and we should all respect that.
00:19:47.000 And if you think it's not a baby, then it's a cluster of cells that you should be able to terminate at whim.
00:19:51.000 And that definitional problem reared its head in the debate.
00:19:55.000 Yeah, it did.
00:19:56.000 And you've been debating this topic so well for so long, and you know that really all you have to do is to bring up the reality of the baby because most won't even in a debate like this say things like clump of cells.
00:20:07.000 They will just obfuscate entirely, they will ignore that there is.
00:20:11.000 Actually, a person on the other side of this moral equation.
00:20:14.000 They'll say things like bodily autonomy or women's right to choose or my body, my choice, not even talking about what we are actually choosing, what is happening and an abortion.
00:20:24.000 And so she just sidestepped that entirely.
00:20:27.000 And I see it as my job to bring it back to the humanity and value of all life.
00:20:32.000 No matter the circumstances surrounding someone's conception, no matter their size, no matter their age, all people are valuable and they have a right to not be murdered.
00:20:40.000 Like it's really, really simple.
00:20:42.000 And when you get down to brass tacks, It's really, really difficult to cogently defend abortion.
00:20:48.000 She tried her darndest, but she didn't do well.
00:20:52.000 Yeah, Allie, I want to tie this into sort of the broader conversation that's happening in our culture right now. 1.00
00:20:55.000 It does seem like feminism now boils down to the proposition that women bear no responsibility for anything they actually do. 1.00
00:21:02.000 And you can see this in a couple of different ways.
00:21:04.000 The Cornell 7 case is a really great example of this, mainly because whatever you think the behavior of the people involved is egregious.
00:21:11.000 And because you're a religious person, I'm a religious person, we have the moral language to condemn that sort of behavior, whether it's consensual or not, because you can sully your body, sully your soul, and destroy your life by doing many consensual things.
00:21:22.000 But that's not what happened here.
00:21:23.000 There's a left wing argument that has cropped up now that basically says that even if a woman consents and then she regrets it later, she has no responsibility for any of the actions she took. 0.92
00:21:32.000 And that seems to be kind of the only common thread in modern feminism no matter what a woman does, she is not responsible for any of the effects of the thing that she does.
00:21:40.000 The entire world has to sort of adapt to whatever her perception of self is at that point in time. 1.00
00:21:46.000 While at the same time, she has full agency, she has full autonomy, that she has all of this power that everyone should bow down to.
00:21:54.000 That's the confusing thing here. 0.94
00:21:55.000 On one hand, we infantilize women like we would a child.
00:21:59.000 Oh, yeah, they got angry and they threw that down, but that's just developmentally where that two year old is right now. 1.00
00:22:05.000 That's basically how we treat grown women. 1.00
00:22:07.000 Lindsay Clancy, she was dealing with a lot of hormones.
00:22:10.000 And so she took the actions that she did, but it's not her fault.
00:22:13.000 Jane Doe consented to the behavior that she engaged in, but it's still ultimately not her fault. 0.95
00:22:20.000 And then at the same time, saying, well, these women need to be running the world. 1.00
00:22:23.000 We should be living in a matriarchy. 1.00
00:22:25.000 We should be living in a place where women are running things because then maybe there would be less conflicts. 1.00
00:22:30.000 But I think that we can see just from the stories that we've looked at recently that that would not be the case. 0.99
00:22:35.000 And so I just ask them to pick a lane. 0.60
00:22:37.000 Like either we can infantilize women and say, because of our hormonal makeup, we just can't be responsible for anything, or we are full humans capable of making good decisions despite what our hormones tell us. 0.88
00:22:50.000 And, you know, we can take responsibility, but it's kind of hard to make the case for both simultaneously.
00:22:57.000 Okay, so, Allie, while I have you on the line, I do have to ask you about the hottest controversy of the day, which involves how women are dressing at the gym.
00:23:03.000 You're a woman, so that means that you have higher authority on this.
00:23:03.000 I just have to ask you this.
00:23:06.000 You and I have had this argument with regard to leggings going way back when, and I will admit that in practice, you won the argument. 1.00
00:23:13.000 All the women wear the leggings. 0.84
00:23:14.000 However, I'm pretty sure that what Shane Gillis is now in trouble for saying, which is that there are women who are dressing like whores at the gym, using colorful language in his joke, that I quizzed my own female producers on this yesterday on the show. 0.99
00:23:28.000 We actually showed some pictures of what some women are wearing to the gym. 0.73
00:23:31.000 Is it fair to say that many women are wearing deeply inappropriate things to the gym?
00:23:36.000 Okay, can I just go on the record and say that that debate that you and I had, I think back in 2019, you were correct, okay? 0.99
00:23:42.000 Can I just say that you were right, as you always are?
00:23:46.000 You were right on that, and I was wrong.
00:23:48.000 However, even then, when I was saying, yeah, leggings are fine, what I was picturing in my head of like maybe an oversized t shirt and leggings is very different than what Shane Gillis is talking about.
00:23:59.000 I completely agree.
00:24:01.000 It was gross, the description that he gave, but only because it's true.
00:24:05.000 It wasn't an exaggeration at all. 1.00
00:24:07.000 That is what women are wearing to the gym.
00:24:09.000 And I also think it's interesting, Ben, that in this consent only culture, that's how we, the only way that we can define sexual morality. 0.99
00:24:16.000 I did not consent to seeing her butt. 0.99
00:24:18.000 I didn't consent to seeing her boobs at the gym. 0.99
00:24:21.000 And yet here we are. 0.95
00:24:23.000 She's forcing that upon all of us.
00:24:25.000 And we are just supposed to act like it's okay.
00:24:28.000 When did I get to consent to that?
00:24:30.000 So that's the problem.
00:24:31.000 That's the problem with secular sexual ethics and the moral relativism that we've been talking about this whole time.
00:24:36.000 It's rules for thee, not for me.
00:24:38.000 It's very confusing.
00:24:40.000 And it ends up degrading the very people who hold those rules.
00:24:44.000 Yeah, Alibeth, I've talked for a long time about what I call face tattoo syndrome.
00:24:48.000 This thing that happens where you go into Starbucks and somebody who's deeply seeking attention has a face tattoo, and then you find yourself staring at the face tattoo because you know it's a tattoo on somebody's face.
00:24:56.000 And then the person looks at you like you're crazy.
00:24:58.000 How dare you look at me? 0.75
00:24:59.000 And now we have at the gym essentially butt hugging syndrome, where it's like I'm going to wear something that is completely designed to be provocative.
00:25:06.000 I saw a meme yesterday that I thought was very funny where it was like, you know, women when they're comfortable at home, and it's women in sweatpants and like a sweatshirt, and then women when they're comfortable at the gym.
00:25:15.000 And then it's what women are wearing at the gym now.
00:25:17.000 And those two definitions, as opposed to men, when I'm comfortable at home, it's shorts and a t shirt.
00:25:22.000 And then when I'm comfortable at the gym, it is also shorts and a t shirt. 0.89
00:25:25.000 And, you know, I, like all men, I'm puzzled by the workings of the female brain with regard to these sorts of matters. 0.97
00:25:32.000 Perhaps you can, in brief fashion, explain what is driving so many women to actually do this thing? 0.96
00:25:37.000 Why are so many women actually doing this? 1.00
00:25:38.000 I can't imagine it's highly comfortable to wear these sorts of clothes. 1.00
00:25:42.000 No, it's not comfortable at all because even a woman who is like, you know, I feel empowered by showing most of my body. 0.68
00:25:48.000 I promise you, even that woman is scared that something is about to be revealed.
00:25:52.000 And she's thinking about that.
00:25:53.000 She's self conscious about that.
00:25:55.000 It's really not that deep.
00:25:56.000 It's that they feel like they look good.
00:25:57.000 They feel like they look good.
00:25:58.000 They want people to see them.
00:26:00.000 It's not because it's functional.
00:26:01.000 It's not because it's comfortable.
00:26:02.000 They want to be able to take a picture.
00:26:04.000 They think it shows off their muscles or whatever.
00:26:06.000 And I'm not saying that they all do look bad.
00:26:08.000 Maybe they are very fit and they have a great figure, but that really is besides the point.
00:26:13.000 It is very difficult to wear.
00:26:14.000 I think that Chan Gillis compared the colors to artificial bait, which is true.
00:26:19.000 They're like neon shorts that are meant for you.
00:26:22.000 To draw the eye. 1.00
00:26:24.000 And then, of course, it becomes a whole feminist scandal when someone actually, their eyes are drawn toward you. 0.88
00:26:30.000 So it's not that deep.
00:26:32.000 It really is vanity. 1.00
00:26:33.000 It's just attention and affirmation, I think, that a lot of these women are seeking. 0.96
00:26:38.000 Okay.
00:26:38.000 So I do have to ask you you have a brand new app that is out that is pregnancy and cycle related.
00:26:43.000 Why don't you tell people about it?
00:26:46.000 Yeah.
00:26:46.000 It's called Anna Kate.
00:26:47.000 And if people want to know more about the name and the history behind it, the story of how we came up with it, how my husband and I have been building it, they can go to, AnnaKate.com.
00:26:55.000 They can follow us on Instagram.
00:26:57.000 A couple of years ago, I was sitting at a conference where I was speaking, and I guess because my husband and I were thinking about adding the fourth to our family, and I was like, gosh, all of these pregnancy tracking apps or these period tracking apps, so many of them are just openly progressive.
00:27:12.000 They'll say, they won't say husband, they won't say father, they won't say woman, they won't say mother.
00:27:18.000 And I shouldn't have to navigate this in a very important and sensitive and intimate time of my life.
00:27:23.000 Why can there not be a home?
00:27:25.000 For Christian women, for pro life women who know what a woman is, who knows that life is valuable from the moment of conception onward.
00:27:32.000 And so it's a cycle tracking app, it is a pregnancy tracking app, and it's a postpartum tracking app that gives you scientific insight into your body, into your pregnancy, while also giving you biblical and pro life encouragement on a daily basis.
00:27:46.000 So it'll be out very soon, but people can check it out at anacate.com.
00:27:52.000 Well, go check that out.
00:27:53.000 Allie Beth, really appreciate the time and the insight as always. 0.99
00:27:55.000 Well done on the debate.
00:27:57.000 Thank you, Ben.
00:27:58.000 What an amazing video you just watched.
00:28:00.000 Wasn't that amazing?
00:28:01.000 Well, you know, if you think so, head on over to dailywire.comslash subscribe to watch the full show ad free or check out this crazy story here.