The Ben Shapiro Show - October 14, 2026


Tucker Carlson Came for Me. Here's My Response.

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00:00:00.000 It's time to take a look at what's going on over on X.
00:00:02.000 So, I've been embroiled in a few bizarre controversies in my day over on X. There is another one that is now popping up.
00:00:09.000 It's weird and strange.
00:00:11.000 So, this particular controversy surrounds something that I said at the University of Texas at Austin.
00:00:18.000 So, at the University of Texas at Austin, a kid got up, student, wearing a shirt that said Jesus is King, which is cool.
00:00:26.000 And he asked why I don't convert to Christianity.
00:00:30.000 And in the course of that explanation, I explained after explaining that, listen, I believe my Judaism with precisely the same fervor that he believes his Christianity.
00:00:38.000 And so, if I asked him, what would it take for you to convert away from Christianity?
00:00:41.000 I assume he would say pretty much nothing could get you to do it, which is the same thing that I believe about my own religion.
00:00:47.000 I believe the things that I actually believe.
00:00:49.000 But then I got into a broader discussion about the fact that Jews are not asking Christians to convert to Judaism.
00:00:58.000 We actually encourage people not to convert to Judaism.
00:01:01.000 And here is what I had to say.
00:01:04.000 Is what would it take for you to finally become Christian and accept Jesus?
00:01:14.000 So, number one, I have to say I'm always very flattered that so many Christians want to save my soul.
00:01:20.000 Like, really, it's great. 0.99
00:01:21.000 Like, I'm very flattered by it.
00:01:23.000 I think it's wonderful.
00:01:24.000 I have no problem with people who ask me this question.
00:01:27.000 And as I've said about a billion times over the course of my career, I think that all Christians should go to church.
00:01:31.000 I think people should go to church more often.
00:01:33.000 I think it is good for them.
00:01:34.000 I want Christians to be more Christian, not less.
00:01:36.000 Now, as to the reasons why I am not a Christian, so obviously Judaism says, unlike your shirt, right?
00:01:42.000 I mean, Judaism, one of the distinguishing differences between Judaism and Christianity is that Judaism does not believe in the divinity of Jesus, obviously.
00:01:49.000 And when people ask what it would take for me to embrace Christianity, it isn't that I think poorly of Christianity, it's that I actually believe in the things that I believe in.
00:01:59.000 Okay, so I believe in my own religion just as passionately as you believe in Christianity.
00:02:03.000 It is not as though I feel a lack of Christianity in my life, and therefore, if you just Sell me on Christianity harder, I'm going to move to Christianity.
00:02:12.000 I believe in a full system that belongs to my people and that I'm convinced of in the same way that you're convinced of your own religion.
00:02:21.000 So it's not just a matter of you selling good arguments on Jesus, it would be a matter of me abandoning core arguments that I already believe about God and about Judaism.
00:02:32.000 Okay, so in the course of this, I explain Jewish beliefs about other religions because Judaism is a non exclusivist religion.
00:02:39.000 Jews believe that Judaism is for Jews, and you are not obligated in any of the commandments that the Jews are obligated in.
00:02:45.000 And Jews believe, right, like the Jewish faith believes that you go to heaven as long as you fulfill seven basic laws, what are called the Noahide laws.
00:02:52.000 These are very basic things that all Christians, with very few exceptions, fulfill just by dint of the fact that they practice their religion. 0.66
00:03:00.000 These would be do not worship idols, don't blaspheme or curse God, don't murder, don't engage in prohibited sexual relations like adultery and incest, don't steal.
00:03:09.000 Don't take, don't eat flesh from a living animal, establish courts of justice, right?
00:03:12.000 These are like the basic Noahide laws.
00:03:14.000 And again, I think most people listening are like, yeah, I do all those things.
00:03:16.000 So I'm good.
00:03:17.000 Correct.
00:03:17.000 You're good.
00:03:18.000 Okay.
00:03:19.000 Now, I finished that statement there.
00:03:23.000 Like, this started going around online.
00:03:26.000 And people started claiming that I want you to not believe in Jesus if you're Christian.
00:03:31.000 And not only that, that I think that you must abandon your religion and become, quote unquote, a Noahide.
00:03:36.000 This ignores the end of the clip where I literally said, this is a direct quote, quote, I think you're doing a great job by believing in Jesus. 0.98
00:03:44.000 I think that's great.
00:03:46.000 I think you should continue to go to church.
00:03:47.000 I think you should continue to speak out about your faith.
00:03:49.000 I think Christianity in America needs a resurgence, and that's the greatest factor that will lead to a revitalized America.
00:03:54.000 That is literally how I ended that exchange.
00:03:58.000 Now, again, this entire fake controversy went crazy online because some liar named Chris Menahan put out a tweet that had millions and millions of views.
00:04:09.000 It said Ben Shapiro urges TPUSA crowds to abide by the Noahide laws.
00:04:14.000 Okay, now, again, I'm just confused.
00:04:19.000 Did I encourage Christians to abandon Christianity or did I do the opposite?
00:04:23.000 So this came up again.
00:04:26.000 On Jimmy Dory's Godforsaken podcast.
00:04:28.000 So, Jimmy Dory, who's a fake comedian who spends most of his days speculating about how Erica Kirk murdered her husband, he had on Tucker Carlson, who we'll get into in just a moment.
00:04:39.000 And he basically went into an old school anti Semitic rant about how Jews are in favor of genocide.
00:04:46.000 You know, one of those Noahide laws is against idolatry, which a lot of people interpret that they say that if you worship Jesus, that's idolatry.
00:04:55.000 So, that's the irony there. 0.75
00:04:57.000 And here's one more reason why he doesn't want you to look into those 613 laws is because on 611 is always to remember what Amalek did, that the evil done to us by Amalek shall not be forgiven, and to destroy the seed of Amalek. 0.88
00:05:13.000 So that would probably be a big reason why he doesn't want you to look into those 613 rules because that means wiping out and genocide. 0.53
00:05:25.000 Okay, so number one, feel free to look into all 613 rules.
00:05:28.000 Most of them are really, really, really boring.
00:05:30.000 Second of all, if we're going to talk about Amalek, which is how it's pronounced, not Amalek, Amalek, you're going to read the Hebrew. 0.83
00:05:35.000 You're talking about a specific tribe at a specific time.
00:05:38.000 It is mentioned in the book of Exodus, right?
00:05:39.000 It's in the Old Testament.
00:05:40.000 All this is coming directly from the book of Exodus. 0.96
00:05:44.000 Because Amalek, as a nation, attacked the Jews as they're coming out of Egypt. 0.92
00:05:48.000 That is what it says. 0.76
00:05:50.000 And in Jewish thought, Amalek has not been a discernible nation for some thousands of years.
00:05:57.000 In fact, when people speak colloquially about Amalek in the Jewish community, they're talking about people. 0.99
00:06:02.000 Are legitimately the most evil anti Semites. 0.99
00:06:04.000 So, for example, you might hear a Jew say that Hitler was Amalek, or you might hear people say that Hamas is Amalek, meaning like Hamas leaders are evil and want to kill Jews. 0.99
00:06:16.000 That does not mean there's a genetic test that you can do for Amalek that requires you to wipe out an entire people. 0.98
00:06:21.000 That is nonsense and a lie. 1.00
00:06:23.000 And of course, I wouldn't expect Jimmy Doerr to know anything because he's an idiot. 1.00
00:06:27.000 But then Tucker Carlson jumps in on the fun saying that it's because of the Amalek thing that Jews and Israelis, he uses them interchangeably. 0.99
00:06:35.000 Lost all of their empathy for other people.
00:06:37.000 Reasons I spent a lot of my life, you know, criticizing, attacking the Israeli leadership, but I'm maybe less judgmental than some people in that I don't think it's, you know, I don't think it's just Jews who do this.
00:06:49.000 It's not.
00:06:50.000 It's everybody is capable of this.
00:06:52.000 We did this after 9-11. 0.98
00:06:53.000 You talk yourself into this hysteria about the threats you face and we're, you know, we're facing extinction because of our freedoms or whatever story, dumb lie you tell yourself. 0.51
00:07:04.000 And the next thing you know, you lose all empathy for other people.
00:07:09.000 Because when you feel you're under threat, you don't care about anybody else.
00:07:13.000 When you feel that you're the victim, you can extend no grace.
00:07:17.000 And I just think that's in people.
00:07:19.000 Okay.
00:07:20.000 So don't go down that path.
00:07:22.000 In fighting monsters, you can very easily become a monster.
00:07:25.000 As you said, you're the first casualty.
00:07:30.000 And of course, he's saying Americans were like that after 9 11.
00:07:30.000 Okay.
00:07:33.000 We genocided everybody else after 9 11 in Tucker Carlson's wise view.
00:07:38.000 And this is the same Tucker Carlson who will defend Vladimir Putin and also maybe Hitler.
00:07:42.000 Tucker then went even further than this and accused me of wanting to behead Christians, which I have to say, like, um, uh, what? 0.51
00:08:01.000 Here we go.
00:08:02.000 I kind of like the previous arrangement we had in this country, where, which was the WASP arrangement, where we didn't sort of press people on their religious views.
00:08:09.000 We could all kind of live in peace. 0.56
00:08:10.000 It didn't always work, but it worked pretty well, really, most of the time.
00:08:14.000 Um, but now that you have people like Ben Shapiro.
00:08:17.000 Screeching on about Sharia, Sharia is the threat, Sharia is the real threat.
00:08:23.000 They're mad that Sharia bans usury, obviously.
00:08:25.000 But, like, I don't want to live under Sharia, I'm a Christian.
00:08:28.000 But as long as we're so opposed to Sharia, here's a guy proposing a legal code in which my religion would be illegal.
00:08:34.000 And according to Maimonides, who I think is a pretty good authority on it, I think, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Christianity would qualify as idolatry because Jesus is certainly not considered a God in Judaism.
00:08:46.000 In fact, it's very offensive even to use his name.
00:08:50.000 In a lot of quarters in Israel, in modern Israel.
00:08:52.000 So, like, that would reduce Christians to a second class status or criminal status, punishable by behavior. 0.75
00:09:00.000 So, I'm just going to point out Sharia law literally requires everyone to abide by Sharia law. 0.78
00:09:05.000 Jewish law requires no one except Jews to abide by Jewish law.
00:09:08.000 Also, being quoted Maimonides by Tucker Carlson, my dude, I would love to hear his explication of Guide to the Perplexed.
00:09:19.000 If we're going to talk about people who routinely behead Christians, by the way, there is a group on earth that actually does routinely behead Christians. 0.91
00:09:24.000 They are called radical Muslims. 0.78
00:09:26.000 In 1922, there were about 75,000 Christians in the British Mandate of Palestine. 1.00
00:09:30.000 In 1931, there were about 93,000 Christians.
00:09:33.000 By the end of World War II, there were 145,000 Christians.
00:09:37.000 Today, there are 190,000 Christians in Israel, both Arab and non Arab.
00:09:41.000 But take a look at Gaza.
00:09:42.000 There are about 5,000 Christians in Gaza before 2005.
00:09:47.000 There are less than 600 today.
00:09:50.000 Bethlehem used to be a majority Christian city.
00:09:52.000 Now, barely any Christians there.
00:09:54.000 Lebanon used to be a Christian ruled state.
00:09:56.000 No longer.
00:09:57.000 But Tucker is very much in solidarity, very much in solidarity with Sharia law. 1.00
00:10:01.000 Again, I love the aside that those Jews and their usury. 1.00
00:10:04.000 Where does he think the original textual ban on usury came from? 1.00
00:10:08.000 It's literally in the Old Testament.
00:10:10.000 That's where it came from. 0.67
00:10:13.000 The ignorance is astonishing.
00:10:15.000 The Democratic Socialists of America have now won a bunch of primaries across the country.
00:10:18.000 And next, they are coming for Congress and they are coming for you. 0.67
00:10:21.000 If they win the midterms, they will defund the police, they will reopen our border, they will force men into women's sports. 0.80
00:10:26.000 All that's going to happen.
00:10:27.000 But you are the last line of defense, and GOPvotes.org is your partner in that fight.
00:10:32.000 Head on over to GOPvotes.org right now.
00:10:34.000 Make a plan to vote early.
00:10:35.000 Okay.
00:10:36.000 Like if you vote early, it means that you're definitely going to vote, right?
00:10:38.000 You're not going to get distracted on the day of the vote.
00:10:39.000 Your vote will count.
00:10:40.000 If you live in critical Senate battleground states like Maine, Ohio, or Iowa, early voting is already happening this week.
00:10:46.000 Now the Democrats are energized and the stakes have never been higher.
00:10:49.000 We cannot afford to have all of AOC's allies or communist cronies joining, running the show.
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00:11:00.000 Find your polling location.
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00:11:02.000 And stop the left wing socialist takeover of the United States, paid for by SLF PAC, not authorized by any candidate or candidates committee.
00:11:10.000 It's amazing that I have to do this.
00:11:15.000 But I'm just going to, I'll do it for the sake of just clarity.
00:11:18.000 I don't know how many times I have to say it over and over.
00:11:20.000 For a guy who apparently wants to behead all the Christians, I sure spend a lot of time telling people that they should go believe in Jesus if they're Christian and then go to church.
00:11:28.000 I spend an awful lot of time doing that, like a lot. 0.84
00:11:32.000 Here is just a brief montage of me doing that only a couple million times here.
00:11:36.000 More people need to go to church.
00:11:37.000 They need to re engage with the New Testament.
00:11:39.000 I think that you should re engage with your social institutions, including your church.
00:11:42.000 I have a better prescription.
00:11:42.000 It's go back to church.
00:11:44.000 Church is where you will find commonality with other human beings, a higher cause.
00:11:48.000 And my answer is yes, you should go to church.
00:11:50.000 If you grew up Christian and that's your religion, you should go to church.
00:11:52.000 And the restoration of church is the fundamental basis of a restoration of the West.
00:11:57.000 Go to church.
00:11:58.000 I say this as a Jew.
00:11:58.000 Go to church.
00:11:59.000 Why do you say that as a Jew?
00:12:00.000 Because this is a Christian country.
00:12:02.000 Everybody should go to church.
00:12:03.000 If you're a Christian, you should go to church. 0.99
00:12:04.000 If you're a Jew, you should go to synagogue. 0.99
00:12:05.000 If you're a Muslim, you should go to mosque.
00:12:06.000 I think it's very, very important that people go to religious institutions. 1.00
00:12:10.000 The only way to solve that public health issue is you need to go to synagogue or church.
00:12:13.000 Like, that's the only way to solve that issue. 0.77
00:12:17.000 I mean, sounds like I'm somehow anti Christian.
00:12:20.000 But, you know, here was Tucker again pushing the idea that Sharia law is just fine and dandy.
00:12:26.000 The rules are changing really fast.
00:12:28.000 And the second people stand up and start attacking Sharia law and Islam, not radical Islam, not Al Qaeda, I get it, I'm opposed.
00:12:36.000 But two billion Muslims on the basis of their religion, like, I'm. 1.00
00:12:40.000 I couldn't find that more disgusting. 1.00
00:12:42.000 And I've like basically kind of blown up my life because I'm now an Islam defender when, of course, I'm not a Muslim and I'm not going to become a Muslim. 1.00
00:12:48.000 I don't agree with Islam. 0.96
00:12:50.000 But even more, I disagree with attacking faithful people who are minding their own business, worshiping their own God and bothering no one else, attacking them for their religion. 0.98
00:13:01.000 Like that's not my culture.
00:13:02.000 That's not the culture that founded this country that welcomed his ancestors and mine to this country.
00:13:07.000 And he's trying to change it where, you know, there are like religious tests or something. 0.93
00:13:12.000 It's disgusting.
00:13:14.000 And my ancestors who did found the country understood that. 0.86
00:13:17.000 And I really resent it because it makes this country more volatile, more hateful.
00:13:17.000 He doesn't.
00:13:23.000 They're importing the hate from across the world into my country. 0.94
00:13:29.000 And did you know that Sharia law governed countries are just minding their own business? 1.00
00:13:33.000 You didn't know that because you're not a moron. 0.99
00:13:33.000 Did you know that? 0.99
00:13:37.000 I mean, and by the way, if we're going to speak about American history and exclusivism in American history, the truth is that actually nine of the 13 original colonies barred Catholics from holding higher office.
00:13:47.000 Like, the truth of America is interesting and complex. 0.50
00:13:49.000 But this idea that I am somehow the religious exclusivist, while he talks about how Judaism is a religion that promotes genocide based on literally nothing and defends Sharia law, which, by the way, under Islam, is dictated.
00:14:03.000 There is Dar al Islam and there is Dar al Harb. 0.59
00:14:06.000 Dar al Islam is the area ruled by Islam. 0.93
00:14:08.000 And then the rest is called Dar al Harb. 1.00
00:14:09.000 That is the abode of war.
00:14:11.000 That is what that means in classical Islamic theology.
00:14:15.000 It does have an impact, by the way.
00:14:17.000 There's a poll taken by Rasmussen.
00:14:19.000 Sharia is a system of Islamic religious principles and law.
00:14:21.000 Do you have a positive or negative opinion about Sharia?
00:14:24.000 Aged 18 to 24, positive 43%. 0.79
00:14:27.000 Democrat positive 26%. 0.79
00:14:31.000 Which religious ideology poses a greater threat to America's future, Sharia law or traditional Christianity? 0.91
00:14:36.000 Ages 18 to 24, Sharia law 28%. 0.98
00:14:39.000 Traditional Christianity 40%. 1.00
00:14:42.000 Okay, so why is this important other than just rebutting the utter insane stupidity of all this? 1.00
00:14:46.000 Why is this important? 0.99
00:14:47.000 Okay. 0.62
00:14:48.000 If Republicans lose the Senate this November, it will largely be because of Tucker Carlson.
00:14:53.000 I'm going to tell you about a compare contrast over the past couple of weeks, what I have been doing versus what Tucker Carlson has been doing.
00:15:01.000 So last week, I traveled to two battleground states, Texas and Iowa, with TPUSA to urge young people to go out and vote and hit the streets and vote against the Democrats.
00:15:12.000 By the way, again, I did this in 2024 as well.
00:15:15.000 I campaigned with Tim Sheehy in Montana.
00:15:17.000 He won, and Bernie Moreno in Ohio.
00:15:18.000 He won, and Dave McCormick in Pennsylvania.
00:15:20.000 He won, and Ted Cruz in Texas.
00:15:21.000 He won.
00:15:22.000 And also with Sam Brown in Nevada and Eric Hovde in Wisconsin.
00:15:26.000 I held a fundraiser for Trump down here at Trump Doral.
00:15:29.000 I did a campaign photo op with him in New York's Jewish community.
00:15:33.000 Last week, we put out a full explainer on YouTube about James Tallarico, the Democratic Senate candidate in Texas.
00:15:39.000 It currently has over half a million views.
00:15:40.000 It is likely the highest traffic expose of Tallarico on all of YouTube.
00:15:45.000 We are dropping another one about Abdulrahman El Sayed this weekend.
00:15:49.000 We're going to keep doing that all the way until the election about the other horrible Senate Democratic candidates in battleground states.
00:15:55.000 You listen to the show, so you know I've devoted pretty much every show for months explaining why it is important for Democrats to lose in the midterms and why people who actually love America should vote against them in critical races.
00:16:05.000 Meanwhile, Tucker is out there with a D list pseudo comedian, outright lying about Judaism, saying Sharia law is fine, defending Vladimir Putin.
00:16:12.000 Oh, yes, and also, by the way, defending various Democratic candidates, including openly Abdurrahman El Sayed in Michigan.
00:16:20.000 Tucker is openly endorsing El Sayed, saying he would not vote for Mike Rogers, the Republican, at gunpoint.
00:16:26.000 I wouldn't vote for Mike Rogers at gunpoint. 0.82
00:16:28.000 I mean, there's no one who should be farther from a position of power than Mike Rogers. 0.56
00:16:33.000 And of course, he's come out and defended El Sayed personally.
00:16:36.000 He's also spent months defending openly Zorhan Mamdani. 0.51
00:16:39.000 And Graham Plattner as the Nazi tattoo guy up in Maine, and other psychotic Democrats.
00:16:43.000 He called the president of the United States the Antichrist and then lied about it openly. 0.76
00:16:47.000 He called him a slave to Israel.
00:16:48.000 But here, I mean, we know the rule, right? 0.76
00:16:50.000 If you hate Jews and you hate Israel, Tucker is behind you. 0.74
00:16:54.000 Hey, maybe the West should have just let Hitler in just Western Europe.
00:16:57.000 Would it have mattered if the UK ended up speaking German? 0.89
00:17:01.000 Oh! 1.00
00:17:02.000 Has the UK benefited from it?
00:17:04.000 We did the right thing.
00:17:05.000 Is it a better country than it was? 0.90
00:17:07.000 To have defeated Hitler, yes. 0.60
00:17:08.000 So the UK is a better country now. 0.88
00:17:10.000 It's a healthier country now. 1.00
00:17:11.000 But otherwise, we'll be speaking German. 1.00
00:17:13.000 Who cares? 0.62
00:17:15.000 There are a lot of people in Britain who can't speak English.
00:17:17.000 So it would be nice to have, like, at least a European language spoken in your country.
00:17:21.000 No, I've seen no advantage of speaking German over any other language.
00:17:25.000 We want to speak English.
00:17:26.000 Thank you so much.
00:17:28.000 The Tucker Carlson of Fox News no longer exists.
00:17:30.000 I know there are a lot of people who still like Tucker because they remember when Tucker had producers and an actual management chain at Fox News that stopped him from running headlong off the psycho cliff.
00:17:38.000 But now he's unbound.
00:17:40.000 He's either an ambulatory psychotic high in his own nicotine, or he is willingly.
00:17:44.000 Promoting deranged evil conspiracism.
00:17:47.000 But everybody ought to disabuse themselves of the notion that he has anything of true value to say about anything happening in this country.
00:17:54.000 Let us be real about where things stand.
00:17:55.000 Tucker is so enraged that conservative, red blooded Americans don't agree with his conspiratorial and insane musings, and that all the people he keeps endorsing keep losing Thomas Massey in Kentucky, or James Fishbeck in Florida, or Marjorie Taylor Greene in Georgia, or Paul Danz, or Ryan Zinke, or Aaron Puke, all finished in failure in their primaries.
00:18:13.000 He wants the Republican Party burned down.
00:18:15.000 He wants it burned down, and then he can try to make something out of the ashes.
00:18:19.000 And so that means that in this Senate election, he's doing everything he can to run a full scale demoralization.
00:18:23.000 Now, listen, it's a free country.
00:18:25.000 You can listen to whoever you want. 0.99
00:18:26.000 You want to waste your time and kill your brain cells? 1.00
00:18:28.000 You can do it. 0.99
00:18:28.000 There are plenty of people to do it with. 0.99
00:18:30.000 But if you follow Tucker Carlson's advice and the Democrats win because you stay home because the Republicans are just a part of the nefarious conspiracy, you're part of the problem, just as Tucker Carlson is part of the problem. 0.97
00:18:42.000 Tucker is for El Sayed. 0.87
00:18:44.000 Tucker is for Mamdani. 0.76
00:18:46.000 Tucker is for Putin. 0.53
00:18:47.000 Tucker is for Qatar.
00:18:48.000 Tucker is not for either truth. 0.96
00:18:50.000 He's not for decency.
00:18:51.000 He's certainly not for basic American interests at this point.
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