The Ben Shapiro Show - American Grandstand | Ep. 619

00:00:00.000 Cory Booker and Kamala Harris make total fools of themselves, Twitter bans Alex Jones permanently, and we check the mailbag. 0.98

00:00:05.000 I'm Ben Shapiro. 0.97

00:00:06.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:13.000 Some days the news cycle is just so much fun and today is one of those days because it is full-scale insanity.

00:00:18.000 We will get to all of it.

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00:01:34.000 All righty, so we are still in the

00:01:54.000 Aftermath of what was a wild and bizarre Senate Judiciary Committee hearing over President Trump's nominee to the Supreme Court to replace Justice Anthony Kennedy.

00:02:02.000 This, of course, would be Brett Kavanaugh.

00:02:04.000 Brett Kavanaugh is about as mainstream establishment a textualist judge as can be.

00:02:09.000 He gave no controversial answers, but that did not stop Democrats from grandstanding because we now live in a world where signaling to your base that you are deeply

00:02:18.000 Deeply upset about things is the way to win political races.

00:02:21.000 Whether you're Donald Trump in the 2016 primaries, or whether you're Bernie Sanders in the 2016 primaries, the way that you get your base excited is by showing them that you are very upset and you are crusading for truth!

00:02:32.000 It doesn't matter if you're actually making up the truth.

00:02:33.000 Doesn't matter if you're twisting it.

00:02:34.000 Doesn't matter if you're lying it.

00:02:36.000 The only thing that really matters in the end is whether your base believes that you're passionate about something.

00:02:40.000 Because passion has now outweighed reason as the basic standard that we should be using in any particular way.

00:02:46.000 Well, the case in point over the last couple days has been Cory Booker.

00:02:50.000 And the evolution of Cory Booker is really something to watch.

00:02:53.000 For those who didn't know anything about Cory Booker, Cory Booker used to be considered a sort of moderate politician.

00:02:57.000 He was sort of a third-way politician who was in Newark, New Jersey.

00:03:01.000 He was governing across the aisle.

00:03:03.000 He was making friends with Shmuley Boteach.

00:03:05.000 He was a guy who was going to be the new wave of politics in the country, you know, post-partisan, beyond all of this back and forth, left and right.

00:03:11.000 And then he realized that the best way to elevate himself inside the Democratic Party was to act like a loon bag.

00:03:16.000 And so he's decided to go full loony and he did that during the Senate Judiciary Committee.

00:03:20.000 So you recall a couple of days ago when he suggested that he was Spartacus, which was real weird.

00:03:26.000 It was real weird because, number one, he is not, in fact, Spartacus.

00:03:29.000 Number two, he doesn't understand the plot of Spartacus.

00:03:31.000 And number three, he didn't actually violate the law, but here was Cory Booker basically daring people on the Senate Judiciary Committee to oust him from the Senate for violation of the rules.

00:03:41.000 I saw the Washington Free Beacon did a mash-up of Cory Booker talking about how he had violated the rules with George Costanza from Seinfeld talking about how he was the bad man.

00:03:50.000 And it really does fit.

00:03:51.000 I mean, Cory Booker is a nerd pretending to be the bad guy here so that he's cool with the base.

00:03:55.000 He's going to wear a leather jacket and ride a motorcycle so that the base will love him and vote for him in 2020.

00:04:00.000 Here's Cory Booker pretending to be Spartacus.

00:04:02.000 I will say that I did willingly violate the chair's rule on the committee confidential process.

00:04:08.000 I take full responsibility for violating that, sir.

00:04:12.000 And I violate it because I sincerely believe that the public deserves to know this nominee's record.

00:04:18.000 In this particular case, his record on issues of race and the law.

00:04:23.000 And I could not understand, and I violated this rule knowingly, why these issues should be withheld from the public.

00:04:30.000 Now I appreciate the comments of my colleagues.

00:04:32.000 This is about the closest I'll probably ever have in my life to an I am Spartacus moment.

00:04:36.000 He's making two claims there.

00:04:38.000 One is that he violated the Senate rules.

00:04:40.000 Two are that the documents that he actually released were somehow damaging to Brett Kavanaugh.

00:04:45.000 Not a single thing he said there is true.

00:04:47.000 Including that this is an I am Spartacus moment.

00:04:50.000 Now, I've already said this morning on Twitter, I took a Twitter poll as to what President Trump should call him in the inevitable tweet, right?

00:04:54.000 There will be a tweet from President Trump about Cory Booker.

00:04:57.000 I am pushing all of my friends at the White House to get the President to nickname him Fartacus.

00:05:01.000 I just think that the alternatives are Crying Cory.

00:05:04.000 There's also Drama Queen Cory.

00:05:06.000 There are a few possibilities, but I think Fartacus is clearly the best, and I'll be very disappointed in the President if he goes with Crying somebody else, because he's already done Crying for, I think, a couple of other 0.60

00:05:14.000 Folks, he needs to get more creative with the insults. 0.96

00:05:16.000 In any case, it turns out none of this is true.

00:05:18.000 So Cory Booker releases these documents.

00:05:21.000 Number one, he didn't actually release the documents.

00:05:23.000 They were released earlier that morning.

00:05:25.000 So he didn't violate any of Senate rule, which he knew when he said this.

00:05:29.000 That's number one.

00:05:30.000 Number two, the documents that he released about Brett Kavanaugh, the things the American public had to see, because we cannot

00:05:36.000 Have this veil of ignorance placed upon our eyes so that we don't know who will enter.

00:05:41.000 We must know everything.

00:05:43.000 It turns out, what do those documents show?

00:05:44.000 It shows Brett Kavanaugh is a lawyer who knows things and also opposed racial profiling after 9-11.

00:05:50.000 The specific email chain he's talking about there, we need to know what he thinks about racial profiling.

00:05:55.000 What does Brett Kavanaugh actually say in those emails?

00:05:57.000 He says, racial profiling is probably unconstitutional so we shouldn't do it.

00:06:01.000 So well done, Cory Booker.

00:06:03.000 Just well done.

00:06:04.000 What's hilarious about this is even members of the left-wing media who are prepared to praise Cory Booker, who are prepared to treat him as Spartacus rather than Fartacus, even those members of the media,

00:06:17.000 Had to actually ask him some tough questions, and Cory Booker had no answer.

00:06:21.000 So Anderson Cooper, who is predisposed to sort of like this kind of drama, he starts asking Cory Booker questions, and watch as Cory Booker's eyes roll up into the back of his head and he starts murmuring in tongues.

00:06:31.000 It's pretty astonishing.

00:06:33.000 Grassley's office also confirmed you were told that the restrictions on documents had been waived before you spoke today.

00:06:38.000 So how do you square that with the idea that, with what you've said?

00:06:43.000 Well, I square that very easily.

00:06:44.000 Number one, last night I broke the rules before they even, then they scrambled to release the document.

00:06:50.000 But I continue to release documents.

00:06:52.000 I've released 20 so far that they have not cleared.

00:06:55.000 I am breaking the rules.

00:06:57.000 I am breaking the sham rules.

00:06:58.000 20 documents.

00:06:59.000 If you check my Twitter feed, anybody in the public now can have access to the ones that they wanted to hide.

00:07:04.000 If they haven't cleared those yet, maybe they're rushing to catch up to me and clear those as well.

00:07:08.000 And then Cooper's like, yeah, but Grassley says that he already cleared it, and so did all the Democrats on the committee.

00:07:13.000 So, um, what are you talking about?

00:07:15.000 And then Booker's like, well, but no, I'm a bad man.

00:07:17.000 I broke the rules, baby.

00:07:19.000 Look at me.

00:07:20.000 Look at me, my muscle shirt.

00:07:21.000 Got a pack of cigarettes rolled up in my t-shirt sleeve.

00:07:24.000 I mean, I'm a bad boy, ladies.

00:07:26.000 Yeah, good.

00:07:27.000 Sure.

00:07:28.000 Sure, Cory.

00:07:28.000 Sure.

00:07:29.000 So that was solid stuff. 0.98

00:07:30.000 And then Kamala Harris, it turns out, is also a terrible liar. 1.00

00:07:33.000 So Kamala Harris, who's better than Cory Booker at this.

00:07:36.000 Yesterday, I compared Cory Booker to, he's like the Nicolas Cage of politics.

00:07:39.000 Every scene is just him snarling at the camera and making weird faces.

00:07:44.000 Well, Kamala Harris is actually pretty good at this, right? 1.00

00:07:46.000 She does the stayed routine pretty well.

00:07:48.000 There's only one problem.

00:07:49.000 She also doesn't know what she's talking about.

00:07:51.000 So she had an entire exchange with Judge Kavanaugh in which she accused Judge Kavanaugh of talking about the Mueller investigation with members of President Trump's law firm over at Kasowitz.

00:08:00.000 Well, a couple of facts that are worthwhile noting.

00:08:02.000 Number one, Kasowitz gave disproportionately to a particular California Senate candidate by the name of Kamala Harris in the last election cycle.

00:08:09.000 She didn't reveal that.

00:08:10.000 Number two,

00:08:11.000 I do love the fact that Kamala Harris is suggesting that Kavanaugh knew somebody at Kasowitz and talked about the Mueller investigation without any evidence that ever happened.

00:08:21.000 Kasowitz then came out, the law firm came out, they said, yeah, by the way, no, that never happened.

00:08:27.000 That's not a thing that happened.

00:08:29.000 Do we actually have footage of Kamala Harris grilling Kavanaugh from yesterday?

00:08:33.000 Yeah, so here it is.

00:08:34.000 Kasowitz, Benson, and Torres, which is the law firm founded by Mark Kasowitz, who is President Trump's personal lawyer.

00:08:43.000 Have you had any conversation about Robert Mueller or his investigation with anyone at that firm?

00:08:55.000 Yes or no?

00:08:57.000 Is there a person you're talking about?

00:08:58.000 I'm asking you a very direct question.

00:09:00.000 Yes or no?

00:09:01.000 I need to know the... I'm not sure I know everyone who works at that law firm.

00:09:05.000 I don't think you need to.

00:09:06.000 I think you need to know who you talked with.

00:09:08.000 Who'd you talk to?

00:09:09.000 Okay, who'd you talk to?

00:09:10.000 And he's like, there are 266 lawyers at Cassowitz.

00:09:13.000 Like, I don't know.

00:09:15.000 I talk to lawyers all the time.

00:09:15.000 I don't know what firm they work for.

00:09:17.000 And that's true, I'm sure, for Brett Kavanaugh, too, who works in legal circles all the time.

00:09:21.000 That's not the first question you ask somebody.

00:09:22.000 You ask, like, what kind of law do you practice?

00:09:24.000 Where do you practice? 0.95

00:09:26.000 It's a dumb question, and she has no evidence of this whatsoever. 0.66

00:09:29.000 So then Manu Raju, who works for CNN, sees Kamala Harris, like, walking around the Senate building yesterday afternoon. 0.93

00:09:35.000 And here's what he tweets.

00:09:36.000 Just asked Kamala Harris about Kasowitz's denial, because Kasowitz came forward, and Mark Kasowitz, who runs the firm, he says, um, no one here talked to Kavanaugh about any of this stuff, so this is just made up.

00:09:46.000 So Manu Raju tweets, just asked Kamala Harris about Kasowitz's denial that no one at firm talked to Kavanaugh about Mueller probe.

00:09:52.000 And she says, they're not under oath.

00:09:54.000 And so Raju said, so you don't believe them?

00:09:56.000 She says, the question was asked under oath, and he didn't answer.

00:10:00.000 Okay, so basically she was lying.

00:10:02.000 She had no evidence whatsoever that Kasowitz had talked to Kavanaugh about any of this stuff.

00:10:07.000 She has no evidence that Kavanaugh has done anything inappropriate with regard to conversations about the Mueller investigation or anything like that.

00:10:14.000 She just runs around asking questions that are designed to grandstand for the public. 1.00

00:10:18.000 The funniest thing about all of this is, you know who's actually winning the battle among Democrats for 2020 based on the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing?

00:10:25.000 Michael Avenatti.

00:10:26.000 I'm telling you, he's my sleeper, man.

00:10:27.000 He is my dark horse.

00:10:28.000 Michael Avenatti, the porn lawyer for Stormy Daniels.

00:10:31.000 That guy is now my 2020 frontrunner for the Democrats.

00:10:33.000 I am not kidding.

00:10:34.000 You think I'm kidding? 0.99

00:10:35.000 Because it's ridiculous. 0.98

00:10:37.000 But guess what? 0.99

00:10:38.000 Everything's ridiculous, man! 0.52

00:10:39.000 Where have you been for the last four years? 0.95

00:10:40.000 Come on! 0.61

00:10:41.000 Michael Avenatti is a better lawyer than either Cory Booker or Kamala Harris.

00:10:46.000 Cory Booker, by the way, asked something like 56 questions, 60 questions during the course of the hearing.

00:10:52.000 He didn't ask, he didn't mention a case, not one.

00:10:55.000 Zero cases mentioned in the course of all of his questions because these people are not interested in actual answers.

00:11:02.000 Avenatti started tweeting out stuff about all of this, and he was just trolling Kamala Harris and Cory Booker, and it was just delicious.

00:11:07.000 So Avenatti starts tweeting out about how Cory Booker and Kamala Harris don't know what in the world they're actually talking about.

00:11:14.000 He tweeted this out two hours ago.

00:11:16.000 When I first started trying cases, my mentor taught me two basic things.

00:11:19.000 One, never overpromise and suggest to the jury that you have evidence when you don't, i.e.

00:11:23.000 get over the tips of your skis.

00:11:25.000 And two, never get caught trying to deceive the jury.

00:11:28.000 Words to live by in life as well.

00:11:30.000 Hey, that is such a subtweet of both Kamala Harris and Cory Booker.

00:11:33.000 It's delicious.

00:11:34.000 It's delicious. 0.93

00:11:35.000 So watch as porn lawyer Michael Avenatti runs circles around the sitting senators from New Jersey and California.

00:11:43.000 I got to tell you, if it's Avenatti versus Trump in 2020, I cannot wait, man.

00:11:46.000 I mean, the entertainment value of that race will be so unbelievably high. 1.00

00:11:51.000 And what's going to be great is that we will actually get questions and debates like, 0.73

00:11:56.000 Which one of you had sex with Stormy Daniels first? 0.98

00:11:59.000 This will actually be a question in a debate. 0.87

00:12:01.000 It'll be unbelievable.

00:12:03.000 If we're going to go down this path, let's go all the way.

00:12:08.000 The American people ought to feel the consequences of the decisions that they've made politically for the last several years.

00:12:14.000 And I think what we really deserve, it's not what the country needs, but it's what the country deserves, is an Avenatti versus Trump 2020 race.

00:12:21.000 And I'm telling you, Avenatti will crush—he's a better debater.

00:12:24.000 He's a better debater than Kamala Harris and Cory Booker.

00:12:26.000 He will crush them on stage.

00:12:28.000 It'll be fantastic. 0.98

00:12:29.000 And he'll be able to stand there and say, these characters, these clowns, they couldn't even do a Senate Judiciary hearing.

00:12:33.000 I am going after the President of the United States via my brave feminist client, Stormy Daniels, famous for her role in The Witches of Brestwick. 1.00

00:12:42.000 And everybody will be like, yeah!

00:12:44.000 America's a great country.

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00:13:54.000 Alrighty, so the hearings got even better.

00:13:56.000 You remember that earlier this week, there was a woman named Zina Bash.

00:13:59.000 Zina Bash, her father is Jewish.

00:14:02.000 Her father's parents survived the Holocaust.

00:14:05.000 Her mother is Mexican.

00:14:06.000 But you remember that Zina Bash was supposedly a white supremacist. 0.82

00:14:09.000 Why?

00:14:10.000 Because she made this symbol, the OK symbol, right?

00:14:11.000 The OK symbol is supposedly white power. 0.85

00:14:14.000 Why?

00:14:15.000 Because if you take these three fingers, that looks like W. And if you take the circle and then you add a line to the bottom, it looks like power.

00:14:22.000 Real weird stuff.

00:14:23.000 But everybody on the left decided that this was a secret white supremacist decoder ring symbol.

00:14:30.000 And that if you open a Cracker Jack box and got precisely the proper ring and you oriented it correctly, then you could read between the lines of everything Brett Kavanaugh had ever said.

00:14:38.000 So she was going like this.

00:14:39.000 She had her hand on her arm like this.

00:14:42.000 And they suggested that she was giving the white power symbol.

00:14:45.000 And everybody was like, what are you even talking about? 1.00

00:14:47.000 Are you insane? 0.99

00:14:48.000 Well, three cheers for Zina Bash. 0.99

00:14:50.000 Zina Bash, not all heroes wear capes.

00:14:53.000 Yesterday in the hearing, Zina Bash is sitting behind Brett Kavanaugh again. 0.78

00:14:57.000 And just to screw with people's heads, she just takes her hand and she gives the same symbol. 0.98

00:15:02.000 Just to mess with people.

00:15:03.000 It's really fantastic.

00:15:04.000 There it is.

00:15:08.000 It's just spectacular.

00:15:09.000 Just for the fun of it.

00:15:10.000 She just raises her hand, she goes like that, and then she kind of puts it back down.

00:15:13.000 And she knows everybody's going to go nuts.

00:15:15.000 You know, there are a bunch of people on the right who are sort of prim and proper.

00:15:18.000 Oh, why would she do that? 1.00

00:15:19.000 She's giving credibility left.

00:15:20.000 No, she's making fun of them. 1.00

00:15:22.000 And they deserve it because they're crazy. 0.97

00:15:24.000 And this is why whenever folks on the left are like, well, Trump is a three ring circus. 0.99

00:15:28.000 No, no, no.

00:15:28.000 American politics is a three-ring circus.

00:15:31.000 President Trump is the ringmaster.

00:15:32.000 He's in that center ring. 0.99

00:15:33.000 But the other two rings are filled with Democrats and Democrat protesters because everyone's crazy. 0.99

00:15:38.000 Everyone has lost their minds. 0.88

00:15:40.000 And so if you can't enjoy the circus, well, then get out of the big tent.

00:15:44.000 If you can't enjoy the freak show, why are you here?

00:15:45.000 OK, we at least should be able to enjoy the humor of the era in which we live.

00:15:49.000 Especially because, you know what, things are going pretty well.

00:15:51.000 The unemployment rate is down to 3.9%.

00:15:53.000 That's like a historic low.

00:15:54.000 It's the best unemployment rate since I think 2000 and before that since 1953.

00:15:59.000 People are re-entering the workforce.

00:16:01.000 Things are so good that you can view politics right now through one of two lenses.

00:16:05.000 It's crisis and we're all going to die or

00:16:08.000 Man, this is some funny bleep.

00:16:09.000 I mean, this is... Come on.

00:16:11.000 It's really, really funny stuff.

00:16:12.000 And the funny stuff did not, in fact, end at the Senate Judiciary Committee.

00:16:16.000 President Trump did a rally last night, and President Trump's rallies are basically stand-up comedy routines.

00:16:21.000 He basically just goes out in front of a crowd, and he reacts to the crowd, and he says a bunch of stuff.

00:16:25.000 And as I have been saying, anybody who's listened to this show for the last...

00:16:28.000 Two and a half, three years, knows that there is a two-track presidency for President Trump, a two-track campaign for President Trump.

00:16:36.000 President Trump says a lot of stuff.

00:16:38.000 And then a lot of policy gets implemented.

00:16:39.000 And the two things have nothing to do with one another.

00:16:41.000 Because President Trump, he's a guy with a face.

00:16:44.000 And stuff comes out of that face.

00:16:46.000 And sometimes it's good stuff, and sometimes it's bad stuff.

00:16:48.000 But none of that stuff has anything to do with the policy.

00:16:50.000 Because when it comes to implementing, most of the people around him make the policy.

00:16:54.000 Trump reads the first sentence of the actual policy, and then he signs it.

00:16:59.000 Just like you sign the form so you can go to the trampoline park with your kids without actually reading the details that say you sold your first child into slavery.

00:17:07.000 Just like you do that.

00:17:07.000 That's how President Trump signs executive orders.

00:17:09.000 So the President of the United States, when he does these rallies, this is really what he enjoys.

00:17:13.000 And you have to see the rallies as what they are.

00:17:16.000 They're not policy speeches.

00:17:17.000 They don't have any sort of deep meaning.

00:17:19.000 The president doesn't have the power under our system to be Mussolini.

00:17:23.000 I don't think President Trump really wants to be Mussolini.

00:17:25.000 I think he just likes the kind of cheering throngs of people around him because he seeks approval.

00:17:30.000 But that means that you have to enjoy what President Trump does for what it is, which is basically a giant Gallagher routine where he takes a watermelon and smashes it on stage and hits the people in the front row.

00:17:41.000 So here was President Trump yesterday talking about the failing New York Times.

00:17:46.000 And he says that they ought to investigate themselves, which is a weird suggestion, since I don't know why they would.

00:17:52.000 They're a private company, but sure, why the hell not?

00:17:54.000 Here's President Trump. 0.99

00:17:56.000 The latest act of resistance is the op-ed published in the failing New York Times by an anonymous, really an anonymous, gutless coward. 0.99

00:18:15.000 Come on! 0.87

00:18:15.000 This is fun stuff, guys. 0.87

00:18:17.000 I mean, we gotta enjoy.

00:18:18.000 You gotta just, you gotta revel in the fact that the man mispronounced the word anonymous twice in seven seconds, and then basically just said, Anonymous.

00:18:25.000 Anonymous.

00:18:27.000 A guy.

00:18:28.000 I don't know who it was.

00:18:29.000 A guy.

00:18:29.000 Whatever.

00:18:30.000 With a face.

00:18:31.000 A face says stuff.

00:18:32.000 A guy.

00:18:32.000 Anonymous.

00:18:33.000 Anonymous.

00:18:34.000 Anonymous.

00:18:36.000 Solid stuff from the president right there.

00:18:38.000 And then the president also continued, this would be clip six, talking about, he tweeted this out, he asked if the New York Times would investigate itself.

00:18:48.000 He says, are the investigative journalists of the New York Times going to investigate themselves?

00:18:53.000 Who is the anonymous letter writer?

00:18:55.000 But he spelled it correctly that time.

00:18:57.000 Who is the anonymous letter writer?

00:18:59.000 Okay, so what's so funny about this whole controversy over the anonymous op-ed that hit the pages of the New York Times a couple of days ago, and oh my goodness, the accusations that there are people who sit around President Trump, and they steer him, and they make sure he doesn't go off the rails, and they're the steady state

00:19:19.000 I read that again last night because I honestly am having a tough time understanding why this is a big deal or why people didn't know this.

00:19:26.000 Of course, there are people around the President of the United States who are working to thwart his worst instincts.

00:19:30.000 Have you ever had a boss who is not a bad boss, but just kind of crazy?

00:19:35.000 Have you ever had a boss like this?

00:19:36.000 I'm sure you have.

00:19:37.000 People in my company have that boss every single day.

00:19:39.000 And what you do if you have a boss like that,

00:19:42.000 I don't

00:20:05.000 You know, I'm not sure how that's going to survive the orbital entry.

00:20:08.000 I don't really understand how the cheese is going to survive the orbital entry.

00:20:10.000 I mean, put aside the actual logistics and cost of building a rocket made of cheese or why you'd want to do that.

00:20:15.000 But I don't know how, you know what?

00:20:17.000 That's something we can figure out.

00:20:18.000 It's something we can figure out.

00:20:19.000 We can figure that one out.

00:20:21.000 The important thing is that there be a rocket made of cheese.

00:20:24.000 And you realize the more I push back against this idea, the more enthusiastic this person is going to get about the idea.

00:20:29.000 So instead of pushing back, what you start to do is go, you know,

00:20:33.000 You know what, boss?

00:20:34.000 It's a great idea.

00:20:36.000 I don't care whether we're talking Swiss.

00:20:37.000 I don't care whether we're talking Munster.

00:20:38.000 I don't care if we're talking Monterey Jack.

00:20:40.000 Great idea.

00:20:41.000 You know what?

00:20:41.000 Let's think about that one.

00:20:42.000 Let me think on it.

00:20:42.000 Let me mull on that one.

00:20:44.000 And then you just do nothing.

00:20:46.000 And then like a year later, the guy says, whatever happened to that rocket made it Tuesday?

00:20:49.000 You know, we checked it out.

00:20:50.000 We thought about the cost.

00:20:51.000 You remember, we had a conversation about it.

00:20:52.000 It didn't really work.

00:20:53.000 He's like, oh yeah, I do remember that.

00:20:55.000 That's how you slow walk with your boss.

00:20:57.000 If you think people around the White House don't do it with their boss, you're out of your mind.

00:21:00.000 And it's not a constitutional coup.

00:21:03.000 Look, if Trump wants to fire these people, he can fire these people.

00:21:05.000 They all work for him.

00:21:06.000 A coup is when they actively chain him in the basement and prevent him from doing things.

00:21:11.000 That's not a thing.

00:21:12.000 But, again, it's imperative that we all go crazy.

00:21:14.000 And speaking of everybody going crazy, over at the pages of the New York Times, Paul Krugman, I don't know what he's on.

00:21:20.000 I don't know what sort of coke he is smoking.

00:21:22.000 You don't smoke coke, do you?

00:21:23.000 Unless it's crack.

00:21:24.000 I don't know anything about coke.

00:21:25.000 I don't know what he's snorting.

00:21:27.000 Paul Krugman suggests that crisis is imminent.

00:21:31.000 Why?

00:21:31.000 Because Brett Kavanaugh is going to kill the Constitution.

00:21:33.000 So he moved away from voting Republican is going to kill democracy and now he's on Brett Kavanaugh is going to kill the Constitution, which is weird because it's a document and you can't kill it because it's a document.

00:21:42.000 We'll talk about Paul Krugman 0.63

00:21:44.000 who has joined the ranks of the crazy in just one second.

00:21:48.000 But first, let's talk about your ability to preserve your memories.

00:21:51.000 Okay, so this may not be the world's easiest time in politics, but I'm sure that you're having fun with your family.

00:21:57.000 You got pictures and old tapes and you got all sorts of old memories with your family.

00:22:01.000 And you want to take that stuff and preserve it.

00:22:03.000 You don't want boxes of stuff piled up in your garage.

00:22:05.000 Instead, what you ought to do is take all that stuff, ship it over to the folks at Legacy Box.

00:22:09.000 They send it back to you in the form of a thumb drive or a playable CD, DVD.

00:22:14.000 And then you got everything at finger's touch, right?

00:22:16.000 I mean, you can do all of this.

00:22:17.000 It's very, very easy and you're preserving it for future generations.

00:22:20.000 That's what Legacy Box does for you.

00:22:23.000 You load Legacy Box with your old tapes, film, pictures, audio recordings.

00:22:25.000 You send it back.

00:22:26.000 You get them back in a couple of weeks on DVD or a convenient thumb drive ready to watch, share, and relive it.

00:22:30.000 It's perfectly safe.

00:22:31.000 They send you a bunch of stickers with actual barcodes on them so you can track every piece of content.

00:22:36.000 Okay, so,

00:23:06.000 As I say, Brett Kavanaugh apparently is going to end the Constitution.

00:23:10.000 This coming from Paul Krugman, a guy who thinks that the Constitution is basically a defunct document we shouldn't be paying attention to anyway.

00:23:16.000 But the levels of panic that are evident in a time where there really ought not be panic.

00:23:20.000 Again, things are pretty good.

00:23:21.000 Things are pretty good.

00:23:22.000 It's just the feeling of chaos that I think is making everybody a little bit nuts.

00:23:26.000 And the president does contribute to that.

00:23:28.000 There's no question about it.

00:23:29.000 And I said a few shows ago that

00:23:32.000 I get the same feeling about the president that I have about my two-and-a-half-year-old son.

00:23:36.000 And this happens a lot.

00:23:37.000 You know, my two-and-a-half-year-old son, wonderful kid, just lovely, just a really nice kid, lots of fun.

00:23:43.000 By the time I hit 730 at night, I'm like, you need to go to bed now.

00:23:46.000 You need to go to bed.

00:23:46.000 I'm tired.

00:23:47.000 Forget about you being tired.

00:23:48.000 I'm tired. 0.92

00:23:49.000 Okay, you've been running around trying to kill yourself all day. 0.97

00:23:51.000 I've been stopping you from killing yourself all day. 0.99

00:23:53.000 Now I need you to go to sleep.

00:23:55.000 I feel like the American public are sort of like that about politics now.

00:23:57.000 It's like both parties are trying constantly to stick their fingers in light sockets.

00:24:02.000 And we're constantly like, guys, don't do it.

00:24:04.000 Just don't, just don't do it!

00:24:05.000 And they're like, no, I want to I want to stick my finger in the light socket.

00:24:08.000 Don't do it.

00:24:08.000 Just stop it.

00:24:09.000 Just go to bed.

00:24:10.000 Come on, just go to bed.

00:24:11.000 It's bedtime.

00:24:12.000 Daddy needs it.

00:24:13.000 Daddy needs a drink.

00:24:14.000 Go to bed.

00:24:15.000 OK, that's how the American people feel about politics right now.

00:24:17.000 But both parties seem insistent and everybody on all sides seems insistent on sticking their finger in the light socket.

00:24:23.000 So Paul Krugman has stuck his finger

00:24:25.000 In the light socket, his hair is now sticking straight up.

00:24:27.000 He has a piece in the New York Times called, How will he do this?

00:24:31.000 How will he achieve the murder of an inanimate object?

00:24:35.000 Well, let me tell you.

00:24:36.000 At a fundamental level, the attempt to jam Brett Kavanaugh onto the Supreme Court closely resembles the way Republicans passed a tax cut last year.

00:24:43.000 You mean like with a majority vote of the Senate?

00:24:45.000 Like that?

00:24:46.000 He says, 1.00

00:24:59.000 This is fully delusional crap. 0.96

00:25:00.000 The Ginsburg rule, which was named after Ruth Bader Ginsburg, is that judges who are being asked questions about current cases, future cases, past cases, should not give answers. 0.98

00:25:10.000 So this is just Paul Krugman being an ignoramus. 0.83

00:25:12.000 He says, 0.96

00:25:21.000 Stolen?

00:25:21.000 You can't steal a seat.

00:25:22.000 Again, we're killing documents and stealing seats.

00:25:24.000 Ah, so that's where we're going.

00:25:26.000 That Trump is not legitimate because Russia helped him out.

00:25:42.000 I mean, it's amazing how far the Democrats will go in order to claim that Trump's victory is illegitimate.

00:25:47.000 You can hate Trump as much as you want.

00:25:49.000 His victory is legitimate.

00:25:50.000 That's the way the system works.

00:25:51.000 He didn't win because of Russian election interference.

00:25:54.000 That's not why he won the election.

00:25:56.000 He won the election because nobody voted for Hillary Clinton, and you dolts decided to nominate the least likable human being in the history of planet Earth.

00:26:04.000 A woman with the charisma of a speed bump and all of the joy of a dying squirrel. 0.96

00:26:09.000 A woman who couldn't even be bothered to get on a plane to Wisconsin because she was too busy hanging out with Lena Dunham, that potato of a human. 1.00

00:26:17.000 But no, it's all about the Russians. 0.84

00:26:19.000 Would a Justice Kavanaugh conduct himself with the caution appropriate to such a fraught situation?

00:26:23.000 Well, miracles of personal redemption do happen, writes Paul Krugman, but it's very unlikely.

00:26:28.000 You're right.

00:26:28.000 Judge Kavanaugh is, when I think of a risk-taker, I think of a Brett Kavanaugh, a Catholic, who coaches his girls' basketball team and has spent 20 years being one of the preeminent lawyers in Washington, D.C.

00:26:41.000 I think of that guy and I think, yeah, that's a risk-taker right there.

00:26:44.000 There's a guy who's going to conduct himself as a radical in every possible way.

00:26:48.000 He says, after all, what do we know about Kavanaugh?

00:26:50.000 There's a lot we don't, thanks to the unprecedented way Republicans in the Trump administration are stonewalling on thousands of pages of his record.

00:26:56.000 He has turned over more documents than any candidate in the history of the Supreme Court.

00:26:59.000 He has turned over hundreds of thousands of pages of documents that Democrats don't care about at all.

00:27:04.000 But Krugman finishes, let me make a last-minute appeal to Republican senators who care about America's future if there are any left.

00:27:11.000 Don't do this.

00:27:12.000 A vote for Kavanaugh will be a vote to destroy the legitimacy of one of the last federal institutions standing.

00:27:18.000 The level of panic is just astonishing.

00:27:20.000 And then Erwin Chemerinsky, who's a First Amendment attorney, and now I guess he's dean of, is it USC Law School where he is now?

00:27:27.000 Yeah, I guess he's over at Berkeley Law School.

00:27:30.000 He used to be at USC.

00:27:31.000 He has a piece today called, Why Kavanaugh Likened the Supreme Court Justices to Umpires.

00:27:36.000 That's nonsense and he knows it.

00:27:38.000 And then he suggested, justices are not umpires at all.

00:27:41.000 Umpires apply rules and have little leeway in determining how those rules should be interpreted. 0.97

00:27:45.000 The Supreme Court creates the rules and justices have an enormous discretion in how to interpret the law.

00:27:50.000 By likening himself to an umpire, Kavanaugh is contending his views don't matter at all.

00:27:54.000 That is false.

00:27:55.000 So just to square these two editorials, you have Paul Krugman claiming that Kavanaugh is a radical who's going to use the Constitution as a baton.

00:28:03.000 And you have Erwin Chemerinsky insisting that the Constitution is a living document that can be twisted any which way by anybody who's on the court.

00:28:11.000 So which is it?

00:28:12.000 Is Kavanaugh going to kill the vital Constitution, or is Kavanaugh going to enliven it and twist it in a variety of different ways?

00:28:20.000 The left can't decide, and so they just continue to whine and complain about a done deal.

00:28:23.000 Okay, this is already a done deal.

00:28:25.000 We all know that it's a done deal, but that's not going to stop

00:28:28.000 Democrats from complaining incessantly.

00:28:30.000 Speaking of Democrats complaining incessantly, Twitter has now permanently banned Alex Jones.

00:28:35.000 That was only a matter of time.

00:28:37.000 I've suggested that as much as I dislike Alex Jones, and I know, I know, there are a lot of people, you know how much email I get from folks who think that Alex Jones is on the level?

00:28:46.000 Who think that Alex Jones is actually some sort of genius who has decoded the conspiratorial nature of American life between selling male supplement ads?

00:28:55.000 In any case, Alex Jones.

00:28:57.000 Alex Jones!

00:28:58.000 Okay, he's been banned now by Twitter.

00:29:01.000 According to CNBC, the ban appears to be related to a heated exchange between Jones and CNN reporter Wednesday, which Jones live-streamed on the Twitter-owned video service Periscope.

00:29:10.000 Jones ranted at the reporter, as well as Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey, following back-to-back congressional hearings where Dorsey addressed online election meddling, as well as accusations of political bias and conservative censorship on the platform.

00:29:21.000 So Twitter finally banned him.

00:29:23.000 They said,

00:29:31.000 There are only a couple of serious problems with this.

00:29:34.000 One is that Hamas is still on there. 0.80

00:29:36.000 The other is that Louis Farrakhan is still on there.

00:29:38.000 One of the big problems with all these social media companies that are now banning people is that they still have not set an actual standard for what counts as something that is worthwhile banning.

00:29:47.000 They still have not clarified any of this stuff, and that continues to be a serious problem for social media companies.

00:29:53.000 There's a reason that the left is wildly mistrusted by the right when it comes to how they are running these social media companies.

00:29:59.000 Okay, after this, I'm going to discuss with you just a delicious story about a new socialist face for the Democrats, who it turns out is just a crazy person, but they're still pumping anyway.

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00:32:03.000 So I have to tell you this spectacular story about a Democratic Socialist candidate who is being pumped heavily by the left.

00:32:10.000 Her name is Julia Salazar.

00:32:12.000 She's a wild left candidate. 1.00

00:32:14.000 She calls herself a Democratic Socialist, just like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

00:32:17.000 She's running for New York's 18th State Senate District as part of Brooklyn, containing neighborhoods ranging from Williamsburg to Cypress Hills.

00:32:25.000 She's receiving a lot of attention because she's part of this new wave of democratic socialists and all the rest.

00:32:29.000 It's just amazing.

00:32:30.000 Well, it turns out there's only one problem. 1.00

00:32:32.000 Apparently, she's a pathological liar. 1.00

00:32:34.000 So, a couple of things. 0.99

00:32:35.000 She claims that she's Jewish.

00:32:37.000 She claims she's an immigrant.

00:32:38.000 She claims she was working class.

00:32:40.000 None of those three things are true according to members of her own family.

00:32:43.000 She has no Jewish background.

00:32:44.000 What makes her have a Jewish background?

00:32:46.000 Supposedly, her dad once said that maybe he comes from a Murano family.

00:32:49.000 Her brother says, I don't know what the heck she's talking about.

00:32:51.000 She's basically making this up so that she can claim she's Jewish, which makes an excuse for her being wildly anti-Israel. 0.62

00:32:57.000 Anti-Israel Jews like to talk about their level of Judaism or their Jewish ethnicity specifically because they don't care about Judaism and it gives them cover to be as anti-Zionist and anti-Israel as they want to be.

00:33:08.000 Jews who actually care about Judaism are never anti-Israel.

00:33:11.000 I mean, this is just a rule of thumb.

00:33:13.000 There's not a single Jew who seriously cares about Judaism who is anti-Israel.

00:33:17.000 If there are, you're talking about, like, extraordinarily fringe folks.

00:33:21.000 You're talking about, like, Nitori Carto, which has eight members, and you always see them being photographed by the New York Times as though they're representatives of some sort of major Hasidic sect.

00:33:28.000 It's like nine guys.

00:33:29.000 But, in any case, Julia Salazar claims she's Jewish.

00:33:32.000 She's not.

00:33:33.000 She claims she's working class, or grew up working class.

00:33:35.000 She's not.

00:33:36.000 Her parents were upper-middle class.

00:33:38.000 She claims that she was brought to the United States as an immigrant.

00:33:41.000 That's not true.

00:33:41.000 She's an American citizen and she was born an American citizen.

00:33:44.000 She claims that she, that her parents were, that she's basically an illegal immigrant.

00:33:48.000 That's not true either. 0.97

00:33:49.000 That doesn't stop Vox.com, the repository for all stupidity on the internet, from writing a piece called, Julia Salazar, the socialist politician accused of lying about her past, explained. 0.86

00:33:58.000 And then they claim that it's basically a he said, she said situation. 0.99

00:34:01.000 The only problem being that she is a liar and the people who are actually 0.97

00:34:05.000 Making the opposite claims, have no interest in lying because they're members of her own family. 0.98

00:34:09.000 So she basically makes all this stuff up.

00:34:11.000 Democrats continue to push her anyway.

00:34:14.000 I love this.

00:34:14.000 Julia was starting at Columbia University and figured New York would be a good place to get in touch with her possibly Jewish roots.

00:34:20.000 Uh-huh.

00:34:21.000 She got involved with pro-Israel activism, a cause she would later renounce.

00:34:24.000 Mm-hmm.

00:34:25.000 And became a frequent presence at Hillel, the main hub for campus Jewish life.

00:34:28.000 By early 2010, she said, I was even going to services with friends.

00:34:32.000 Except for the fact that this is not correct.

00:34:35.000 Okay, when she was 21, she had the politics and religious beliefs of a conservative Christian.

00:34:40.000 In a series of tweets preserved by Chen Mazig, Salazar quotes a pastor at Apostles Church in New York. 0.94

00:34:46.000 So she's a really bad Jew. 1.00

00:34:47.000 Okay, so not only that, the tablet has done a bunch of reporting on this, and they point to a mysterious shift in Salah's self-conception occurring in 2013, a few months after a trip to Israel.

00:34:58.000 By September of 2013, she said she kept kosher at her apartment.

00:35:02.000 She says that she formally converted to Judaism, except that she doesn't remember when.

00:35:06.000 She says she took a b'nai mitzvah course that, if completed, would amount to a conversion, which, of course, that's insane.

00:35:12.000 Okay, just as somebody who knows a little bit about the Judaism,

00:35:15.000 You don't go to a bat mitzvah course and become a Jew. 0.72

00:35:19.000 That's not the way this works.

00:35:20.000 It's actually a long, arduous process to become Jewish.

00:35:22.000 Jews actually discourage conversions. 0.57

00:35:25.000 Alex in the back room is like, oh, no.

00:35:27.000 Dude, don't worry.

00:35:27.000 I mean, we're keeping you out of a pretty exclusive club of getting murdered on a regular basis for several thousand years.

00:35:32.000 That's legitimately, like, our interest in discouraging converts.

00:35:35.000 Like, you really sure you want to be part of this club?

00:35:37.000 You really sure you want to be part of this club?

00:35:40.000 It ain't that great.

00:35:42.000 So, but she is, she claims that she's Jewish anyway.

00:35:45.000 She doesn't meet any standard for Jewish identity.

00:35:48.000 She is, she's not Jewish. 0.97

00:35:50.000 It's just, it's amazing stuff, but the left is, it gets even better than that.

00:35:53.000 There's an article on the tablet.

00:35:55.000 Suggesting that she was arrested in 2011 on suspicion of criminal use of personal information.

00:36:00.000 Police reports describe Julia Salazar attempting to impersonate Kai Hernandez, a family friend and then wife of baseball star Keith Hernandez.

00:36:08.000 So now we actually get into Mets baseball to explain Julia Salazar. 0.99

00:36:12.000 Apparently, Kai Hernandez said she recognized Salazar as a voice on the phone and subsequently filed a police report because what happened is that she was attempting to access the bank account of Kai Hernandez, a family friend and then wife of baseball star Keith Hernandez.

00:36:25.000 The incident is chronicled in police reports, court records and audio files, all of which have been obtained by tablet.

00:36:31.000 After learning all this about her, actually, I think she's a pretty good candidate for Congress.

00:36:34.000 I can't, I can't.

00:36:35.000 Honestly, I've got nothing.

00:36:37.000 I got nothing.

00:36:37.000 So, alrighty.

00:36:39.000 Let's do some mailbag here, because this week has been too ridiculous. 0.80

00:36:42.000 Justin asks,

00:36:44.000 I just recently started a job as a salesperson at a call center.

00:36:46.000 My dilemma is that it pays very well for the experience I currently have and where I'm at in college.

00:36:50.000 However, I do feel my supervisors want me to be as deceptive and dishonest just enough in order to legally get by in order to sell as much as possible.

00:36:57.000 I don't exactly feel comfortable with this, although I can't find another job that pays even close to it.

00:37:01.000 Any recommendations on what I should do?

00:37:03.000 Yeah, don't push stuff that you don't believe in.

00:37:06.000 I mean, we have a lot of people who want to advertise on the program.

00:37:09.000 We only have advertisers on the program that I have personally tried or that people on my staff have personally tried because I'm not going to advertise products that I think are BS.

00:37:17.000 We've turned down products before.

00:37:19.000 We'll turn down products in the future.

00:37:21.000 If you feel immoral doing what you're doing, no amount of money is going to make you feel any better about that, so I would suggest that you take a lower-paying job, take a couple of jobs.

00:37:29.000 Your ethics are worth a little more than that.

00:37:35.000 Well, the trailer looks just awful.

00:37:36.000 First of all, I think DC totally screwed up the release of these movies.

00:37:39.000 They should have done exactly what Marvel did.

00:37:41.000 They introduced every character individually, and then they had the crossover.

00:37:44.000 Instead, DC basically took

00:37:48.000 The crossover from the very beginning, right?

00:37:49.000 They did Justice League from the very, very beginning.

00:37:52.000 They did Batman vs. Superman from the very beginning.

00:37:55.000 Batman vs. Superman, by the way, still an underrated movie.

00:37:57.000 I know.

00:37:57.000 I know you hate me for saying that.

00:37:58.000 It is.

00:37:59.000 The original Batman vs. Superman is not a bad movie.

00:38:03.000 It's a lot better than a lot of Marvel movies.

00:38:05.000 Yes, I know.

00:38:06.000 Stop yelling at me, okay?

00:38:07.000 I know.

00:38:08.000 But it is true. 0.90

00:38:09.000 The Aquaman movie looks just terrible.

00:38:11.000 It looks CGI-centered.

00:38:12.000 And I don't know how you mess... Honestly, the Aquaman story is pretty good.

00:38:17.000 But they're going to find a way to screw it up.

00:38:18.000 DC needs to scrap the whole thing and just start over from the beginning.

00:38:22.000 Instead, they have failed pretty dramatically to do that.

00:38:25.000 Okay, Daniel says, 1.00

00:38:38.000 Well, the correct way to answer this question is, are you an idiot? 1.00

00:38:43.000 Really, because when you interpret anyone, what you should say to him is, I'm saying words to you right now. 1.00

00:38:46.000 How do you interpret those words?

00:38:47.000 How do you interpret the words that I'm saying to you right now, like right here?

00:38:50.000 When I ask you that question, how do you interpret it?

00:38:52.000 How do you know what I'm saying?

00:38:53.000 And presumably they'll say, well, you're using words, and we talk with each other, and I know what you're saying because I know what words mean.

00:39:01.000 That's how you interpret law.

00:39:03.000 It really is not that difficult.

00:39:04.000 And when you're talking about the interpretation of old texts, then you have to determine what they meant at the time they were said.

00:39:10.000 Because if I were to... Let's say that I were to utter the sentence, I want an apple.

00:39:16.000 And a hundred years in the future... Now, I write that sentence down.

00:39:19.000 And a hundred years in the future, for some odd reason, we have decided to call cows apples.

00:39:23.000 No one knows why.

00:39:24.000 That's just what happened.

00:39:25.000 And now, a hundred years from now, you're reading that sentence.

00:39:28.000 To determine the actual meaning of the sentence, I want an apple, would you just look to common meaning at the time that it was written?

00:39:34.000 Or would you say what he really meant was cow?

00:39:36.000 Because the word apple evolves over time.

00:39:39.000 That's not the way verbiage works.

00:39:41.000 Whenever we talk with each other, we are talking about the definitions at the time.

00:39:44.000 It's true for every conversation.

00:39:45.000 It's true for every law.

00:39:47.000 And it's true for constitutional interpretation as well.

00:39:50.000 They should be allowed to exist in a free market.

00:39:53.000 I am pretty antitrust.

00:40:01.000 I'm pretty anti-antitrust law.

00:40:02.000 I think antitrust law is used far too often for companies that don't actually have a monopoly.

00:40:06.000 A natural monopoly is a monopoly that is not enforced by law.

00:40:10.000 It's a monopoly in which the government is not cramming down particular rules that favor one company.

00:40:16.000 Like, you know, the Royal Dutch Shipping Company or something.

00:40:19.000 It's not that.

00:40:20.000 It's where you have a company that's just so good at what it does that it's created a monopoly in the market.

00:40:24.000 Monopolies, natural monopolies, do not tend to last very long because usually there are competitors that find something new or there's a whole new branch of sort of invention that makes this particular company obsolete.

00:40:37.000 This idea that somebody has a monopoly now, that means they'll have a monopoly in a hundred years, that's just not the way things work and it never has been the way things work when you have a free market economy.

00:40:44.000 Diana says, what did the Dailyware crew put in your confetti this past week?

00:40:48.000 You, sir, are lit.

00:40:49.000 Well...

00:40:52.000 I think it has less to do with what was in the covfefe.

00:40:55.000 I think it has more to do with the covfefe infusing all aspects of American politics.

00:40:59.000 Clearly, everybody has been grinding up the covfefe and snorting it in lines.

00:41:03.000 Because that's big.

00:41:04.000 Cory Booker was lit.

00:41:05.000 Donald Trump was lit.

00:41:06.000 Kamala Harris was lit.

00:41:08.000 Things were lit, man.

00:41:08.000 I mean, it was just a lit week.

00:41:10.000 John says, Hi Ben, my college roommate was born and raised in China but has become more libertarian as he lived here.

00:41:15.000 He wanted to ask if communism is the result of actual needs of a working class or simply a result of wanton greed.

00:41:21.000 I know Marx and Engels were middle or upper class intellectuals, but did they have any connection with poorer people?

00:41:25.000 Has communism actually ever been effectively used in the utopia described where everyone's needs are met and everyone is truly equal?

00:41:31.000 Any response is greatly appreciated.

00:41:32.000 Thanks very much.

00:41:33.000 Your show is awesome.

00:41:34.000 Well, there's an ongoing controversy over whether Marxism, the terminology of Marxism applies to areas of Western civilization in which the basis for an economy is actually capitalist.

00:41:44.000 So the most modern examples being used now are places like Denmark or Sweden or the Nordic countries. 0.97

00:41:50.000 The left used to admire the USSR and Cuba and Venezuela, and then it turns out all those places are absolute crap holes.

00:41:55.000 So now they've decided that instead it applies to all these Nordic countries that are really capitalist with a bunch of redistributionist superstructure placed on top.

00:42:04.000 Now, I don't think that's what Marxism describes.

00:42:06.000 If you read the Communist Manifesto, it talks about full nationalization of resources.

00:42:10.000 It talks about the workers actually taking over all of the companies.

00:42:13.000 And that's not what's happening in the vast majority of these Nordic countries.

00:42:16.000 Even in places with high rates of nationalization, places like Norway, those companies are run in state-sponsored capitalist fashion.

00:42:23.000 I don't think that's sustainable, and I think that absent Norway's awesome oil wealth, they'd be experiencing significant financial difficulties right now at the moment, because that's exactly what happened to Sweden from basically 1970 to the mid-1990s.

00:42:36.000 Or mid-2000s, rather.

00:42:38.000 So, no, I do not think that Marxism works as an economic system.

00:42:42.000 I think the draw of Marxism, the idea of from each according to his ability, to each according to his need, is a draw toward... It depends who's articulating it.

00:42:52.000 If it's somebody who's at the upper end of the economic spectrum, then it's somebody who wants to consider themselves charitable without actually giving charity.

00:42:58.000 And if it's somebody at the bottom of the economic spectrum, then very often it's coming from a place of, I want what that other guy has.

00:43:03.000 I think Marxism is built on a bunch of lies about the human condition, about human nature.

00:43:07.000 I think Marxism makes promises about the transformation of human beings into better human beings.

00:43:12.000 If we just change the free market system in which we live, if we just inhibited the freedom of everybody, then we'd all become better human beings.

00:43:18.000 I think all of it is nonsense.

00:43:19.000 I think all of it is immoral.

00:43:21.000 As far as whether it works, the answer is, it depends on what the goal was.

00:43:24.000 If the goal was to level all human beings, then sure, it levels all human beings in Venezuela in poverty, except for the ruling class.

00:43:31.000 If the goal is to transform human nature, giant fail.

00:43:33.000 If the goal is a prosperous society, giant fail.

00:43:37.000 Capitalism creates prosperity.

00:43:38.000 Redistributionism just passes that stuff around and inhibits prosperity.

00:43:42.000 Alex says, to he who is rumored to be the husband of the hottest doctor.

00:43:45.000 Indeed.

00:43:45.000 How do you actually find a partner who is also dating for marriage?

00:43:48.000 It seems to be difficult in college.

00:43:50.000 So, here is the answer.

00:43:53.000 Ask a woman. 1.00

00:43:55.000 Most women are actually interested in dating for marriage. 1.00

00:43:58.000 Most women think that men are not interested in dating for marriage. 0.72

00:44:03.000 I really think that the vast majority of women who say that they're interested in dating for fun, it's because many of them have been told by the feminist movement that their lives will be richer if they date for fun.

00:44:12.000 Don't lock yourself down.

00:44:13.000 They've basically been given the same slogan that

00:44:16.000 Men were given back in the 1960s and 70s, go sow your wild oats, be free, do what you want.

00:44:22.000 I don't think that deep down that's what most women actually want. 1.00

00:44:25.000 I don't think it's hard to find a woman who wants commitment.

00:44:27.000 I think most women actually want commitment out of men. 0.91

00:44:29.000 In fact, I think it's the single thing that women want most out of men is a level of commitment and a level of stability.

00:44:36.000 So,

00:44:38.000 Ask.

00:44:39.000 Like, really, ask.

00:44:40.000 So, ask a woman on a date, and then on the first date, say, you know what? 0.84

00:44:43.000 I want to tell you, I take dating really seriously.

00:44:46.000 And when I date, I'm really dating with marriage in mind.

00:44:49.000 And if that scares you, that's okay.

00:44:50.000 We don't have to do this.

00:44:51.000 But, you know, I take this stuff seriously, and I want to have a good time, obviously, while we're dating.

00:44:56.000 But having a good time is not actually the chief purpose of this.

00:44:59.000 If I wanted to have a good time, I'd go golfing right now.

00:45:02.000 But, you know, if you want to do something meaningful here, let's talk about, first of all, the other answer is go to a church.

00:45:10.000 You want to find somebody who wants to date for marriage, go to a church, go to a synagogue, go someplace where people take commitment seriously, and you will find a bevy of people who are interested in dating for marriage.

00:45:18.000 Look, it's the norm in the Orthodox community.

00:45:20.000 In the Orthodox community, there's no such thing as dating for fun, because you can't have any fun until you're married anyway.

00:45:24.000 So, dating for marriage is the norm.

00:45:27.000 It used to be the norm in the religious community.

00:45:29.000 And again,

00:45:30.000 I think that a lot of women might find this mildly refreshing, if not majorly refreshing. 0.99

00:45:34.000 And if they don't find it refreshing, she's not somebody you want to marry anyway.

00:45:36.000 And why?

00:45:37.000 Well, I think Thomas Sowell is the best political thinker on the scene.

00:45:47.000 People have asked me before if I could appoint an ideal president, who would it be?

00:45:51.000 And I've always said Thomas Sowell.

00:45:52.000 I think he is terrific.

00:45:54.000 I think of people who are of younger age, Matthew Continetti does a lot of great writing.

00:45:57.000 I think that David French over at National Review does a lot of really interesting writing.

00:46:02.000 Orrin Cass, who's over at, I believe he's at, which institute is he at?

00:46:08.000 Manhattan, thank you.

00:46:09.000 He does a lot of really interesting writing.

00:46:12.000 There are a bunch of folks.

00:46:13.000 Jonathan Haidt does a lot of interesting writing.

00:46:15.000 I've recommended a lot of these folks' books on the program before, and I think that we'll have to put up—we've been promising for a while that we'll put up a reading list on the website.

00:46:24.000 We'll actually have to do that with all of the recommendations, because it's legitimately hundreds of books at this point.

00:46:28.000 Travis.

00:46:29.000 Hi, Ben.

00:46:30.000 You and the rest of the Four Horsemen, Clavin, Knowles, and Walsh, keep me going through the work week.

00:46:34.000 With all the chaos going on with the Senate hearing on Kavanaugh, what are your thoughts on the movement in some circles of the conservative movement to repeal the 17th Amendment?

00:46:40.000 Do you think it would fix a lot of the grandstanding we see now because the Senators would be representing the state and not their constituents?

00:46:46.000 Keep up the great work. 1.00

00:46:48.000 Listen, I think that the idea of popularly elected senators is really idiotic. 0.95

00:46:52.000 I think the goal of the Senate, it's disproportionate in terms of representation, specifically because the states are supposed to be represented, not just the people of the states. 0.95

00:47:01.000 Now you have the House basically representing the same constituency as the Senate, which defeats the purpose of having a Senate in the first place.

00:47:08.000 I don't think that there's a reason why senators should be voted by the same people who vote the members of the House of Representatives.

00:47:15.000 Would it solve all of our problems?

00:47:17.000 Of course it wouldn't solve all of our problems because you have pandering state politicians who want to spend a lot of money too. 0.99

00:47:23.000 But would it be better than the current system?

00:47:25.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:47:26.000 Populism is a result in some places of not having checks and balances in the nature of the constituencies for particular politicians.

00:47:34.000 Man, there are a couple of books that come to mind immediately.

00:47:36.000 They're actually not by Richard Dawkins or Sam Harris.

00:47:38.000 There's one book

00:47:55.000 I wish I could remember the name of this book.

00:47:57.000 It's basically trying to debunk every argument for God's existence.

00:48:00.000 And they go through the ontological argument and various other arguments that have been traditionally used.

00:48:05.000 I remember reading it and finding it interesting, but not convincing.

00:48:10.000 Honestly, I'll have to get back to you on that one, but I do have like a shelf full of atheist books that make exactly these arguments over and over again.

00:48:17.000 And there are some pretty well-written ones.

00:48:19.000 I remember this one was not in circulation a lot.

00:48:21.000 I'll really have to look it up.

00:48:22.000 I'm sorry, I don't have it at the tip of my tongue.

00:48:24.000 Let's see.

00:48:25.000 Final one.

00:48:27.000 Steven says, if you could get in a time machine and clerk for any U.S.

00:48:29.000 Supreme Court justice, who would you pick?

00:48:32.000 I would go clerk for Chief Justice John Marshall and I'd reverse Marbury versus Madison.

00:48:39.000 I'd sneak in a reversal of Marbury versus Madison, and also then I would work to reverse McCullough versus Maryland.

00:48:44.000 There are a couple of bad early decided cases.

00:48:47.000 Or, if you're gonna do that, if you're gonna be like the resistance inside the Supreme Court, then I suppose that you would go back and clerk for Justice Taney, and then somehow prevent him from writing Dred Scott.

00:49:00.000 You'd start there.

00:49:01.000 Okay, time for some things I like, and then some things that I hate.

00:49:04.000 So, things I like.

00:49:06.000 President Trump couldn't help himself this week.

00:49:08.000 You knew it was coming.

00:49:09.000 Today, he finally decided to tweet out about Nike, which is exactly what Nike wanted, right?

00:49:12.000 Nike wanted this tweet.

00:49:13.000 So he tweeted out, what was Nike thinking?

00:49:16.000 What they were thinking, pretty much, is that you would tweet out about it.

00:49:19.000 I mean, that's really what Nike was thinking when they decided to feature Colin Kaepernick, a loser backup quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers, who's not worked in a couple of years, but who knelt for the national anthem, thereby making him a national hero worth millions of dollars.

00:49:33.000 They were thinking that you would tweet about it, and then everybody who hates Trump would go out and buy Nike sneakers, thereby demonstrating once again that capitalism always wins.

00:49:42.000 But it is worth noting here that Nike's ratings have indeed plummeted.

00:49:46.000 They've been hit with sort of really bad poll numbers.

00:49:50.000 There was a report from Morning Consult, they suffered a 34 point drop in favorability overall, including dips in nearly every single demographic since announcing the Kaepernick ad campaign.

00:49:59.000 Their favorability dropped to, they were at 69%, a plus 69% favorable impression.

00:50:03.000 It has now declined 34 points to plus 35 favorable.

00:50:08.000 Among younger generations, Nike users, African-Americans, and other key demographics, Nike's favorability declined rather than improved.

00:50:15.000 Before the announcement, 49% of Americans said they were absolutely certain or very likely to buy Nike products.

00:50:19.000 That figure is down to 39% for now.

00:50:22.000 So that is a pretty astonishing drop.

00:50:24.000 And again, good evidence that when you alienate a large portion of the American population, it's a bad idea.

00:50:30.000 All of that was dependent on the president not getting involved.

00:50:33.000 Now he's gotten involved, which means that a bunch of people are going to rally to Nike's support again.

00:50:37.000 I want to correct something I said yesterday.

00:50:38.000 So yesterday I said that kneeling for the national anthem meant you didn't want to have a conversation.

00:50:42.000 I think that was true for Kaepernick.

00:50:43.000 I don't think Kaepernick wanted to have a conversation.

00:50:45.000 He would not hold the conversation.

00:50:47.000 I think Kaepernick is the worst example of this group of folks.

00:50:49.000 I think there were some members of the NFL who knelt, usually in the aftermath of the Kaepernick stuff, who then went and held meetings with various legislators.

00:50:58.000 And tried to have conversations.

00:50:59.000 I would ask that if Nike wanted to feature somebody who's trying to make a positive difference, why not feature those people?

00:51:04.000 And the answer is because it's all virtue signaling.

00:51:06.000 So I just wanted to correct that impression.

00:51:08.000 There are some people who I, who knelt, who I think probably want to have good conversations, but it's not Colin Kaepernick.

00:51:13.000 Okay, other things that I like.

00:51:14.000 So Jeffrey Owens was an actor on The Cosby Show, and you would recognize his face if you saw it.

00:51:20.000 He was essentially shamed because there was a story in some of the tabloids and then picked up by some major media outlets.

00:51:26.000 That showed that he was working as a cashier at a New Jersey Trader Joe's.

00:51:29.000 It appeared in the Daily Mail. 0.98

00:51:30.000 And the stupidity of featuring this, as though there's some sort of shame to working at a Trader Joe's in order to make ends meet because he used to be a famous actor. 1.00

00:51:39.000 It's just gross, obviously. 1.00

00:51:41.000 It's just a gross thing.

00:51:42.000 But the impact of this story is that now the guy's got a job again.

00:51:46.000 So he's about to have a 10-episode arc on a Tyler Perry show.

00:51:48.000 He's about to start getting acting jobs again.

00:51:50.000 So I'm glad to see that people resonated to Jeffrey Owens' support.

00:51:55.000 Everybody basically came out and said, this is absurd.

00:51:57.000 Anybody who is working a job ought to be praised for working that job.

00:52:01.000 There's no shame to working at a Trader Joe's just because you used to be a famous actor.

00:52:05.000 The other night, I took my daughter to a concert at the Hollywood Bowl with John Williams conducting, and it was really a lot of fun.

00:52:11.000 And they showed a clip from E.T.

00:52:13.000 with the orchestra playing in the background.

00:52:15.000 And the best thing in E.T.

00:52:17.000 is the older brother.

00:52:18.000 I can't remember the name of the guy who plays the older brother in E.T.

00:52:20.000 He's really terrific.

00:52:21.000 He never did another acting job again.

00:52:23.000 That was his last acting job.

00:52:24.000 He decided he didn't want to do it.

00:52:25.000 Last check, I think he was working as a mailman.

00:52:26.000 He has like a nice family somewhere out in the boonies and he works as a mailman.

00:52:30.000 Is there anything wrong with that?

00:52:32.000 I think not.

00:52:32.000 I think there's something really nice about that.

00:52:34.000 I think the idea that acting is only worthwhile if you never have to work at Trader Joe's and we have to shame people for working at Trader Joe's is gross.

00:52:42.000 Good for Hollywood for making room for Jeffrey Owens again on the basis of all of this.

00:52:46.000 So that's a thing that I like today.

00:52:47.000 Okay, time for a quick thing that I hate and then we'll get out of here for the weekend. 0.84

00:52:54.000 So today's thing I hate, this is California, which is just, this is why if you're a leftist you really should believe in federalism, because federalism allows you to try out the dumbest ideas possible.

00:53:08.000 And California is the place where we do all of this. 0.91

00:53:11.000 According to NBC News,

00:53:13.000 California on August 30th voted to force publicly traded companies based in California to have at least one woman on their board by 2019. 0.92

00:53:22.000 And depending on the size of the company, one to three women by 2021.

00:53:26.000 California Senate Bill 826 is sponsored by California State Senator Hannah Beth Jackson, Democrat, now heads to Governor Jerry Brown's desk. 0.91

00:53:33.000 If it becomes law, this will be the first example of a state-mandated gender quota of its kind in the U.S. 0.99

00:53:38.000 It's just idiotic in every possible way. 0.99

00:53:40.000 First of all, you're going to have the government actually setting up quotas? 1.00

00:53:43.000 This seems to me fully unconstitutional.

00:53:45.000 It's a violation of the Equal Protection Clause.

00:53:48.000 The notion that you are going to force

00:53:51.000 We're good to go.

00:54:09.000 Or, why not have a transgender person?

00:54:11.000 You can fulfill all of the quotas at once. 0.99

00:54:12.000 You can have a black transgender person.

00:54:14.000 You can have Rachel Dolezal on that board. 1.00

00:54:17.000 And everything will be great.

00:54:18.000 Then you've fulfilled all of the various quotas all at once.

00:54:20.000 What does this have to do with making business better?

00:54:22.000 The answer is nothing, because here's the reality.

00:54:24.000 If I have a publicly traded company, and I have five members of the board, and they tell me I need to bring a woman onto the board, you know what I'm gonna do? 0.99

00:54:31.000 I'm gonna bring on a woman who's either gonna vote like everybody else on the board, or I'm gonna go outnumber the woman with a bunch of other people who agree with me. 0.90

00:54:39.000 This doesn't actually have any impact on how the company is run, in other words.

00:54:42.000 There are already laws that prevent gender discrimination in hiring and firing.

00:54:46.000 The notion that you have to go out of your way to stack the boards with particular affirmative action candidates is really bad for business.

00:54:52.000 And not only that, it probably

00:54:54.000 It probably encourages companies not to go public in the first place or relocate out of state.

00:54:59.000 I mean, listen, we have a board at our company and we're not a publicly traded company.

00:55:04.000 We're a private company.

00:55:05.000 If ever we decided to go public, if this is the law in the state of California, we will legitimately move the company out of state or at least we'd seriously consider it because the more restrictions you put on publicly traded companies in your state, the more they're going to look other places.

00:55:17.000 We don't have to be located here.

00:55:19.000 We can move very easily.

00:55:21.000 So, California, once again, virtue signaling instead of thinking about all of this stuff in a serious fashion.

00:55:26.000 And again, the number of women who are on corporate boards is already increasing because there are lots of qualified women to be on boards. 0.99

00:55:32.000 It's just, it's the height of stupidity, but again, California is a place that elected Kamala Harris senator. 1.00

00:55:38.000 So, what can you say for us out here? 0.99

00:55:40.000 Alrighty, we will be back here next week.

00:55:42.000 Now remember, I'm not going to be back here Monday or Tuesday because it is Rosh Hashanah.

00:55:45.000 So I'm going to be celebrating my new year and enjoying my time off, but I will be back here Wednesday, which means I am sure that all things will happen Monday and Tuesday and I'll have a lot to talk about.

00:55:54.000 I will see you then.

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