The Ben Shapiro Show - Bloomberg Is The News | Ep. 893

00:00:00.000 Michael Bloomberg officially enters the race.

00:00:02.000 Democrats compete for nuttiest solution on climate change, and we check the mailbag.

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00:00:20.000 Okay, well, yesterday was a busy day.

00:00:22.000 We did the show, we did the radio show, and then went over to Stanford, did a big speech, From the 1700 kids, the Stanford left had attempted to shut this thing down for a while.

00:00:32.000 I mean, they were ripping down posters and putting up little notes about how I was going to assault minority communities and I was going to incite violence against minority communities.

00:00:41.000 And my speech was actually about the convenient alliance between the radical left and the alt-right.

00:00:46.000 There is this sort of newfangled alt-right thing that's happening.

00:00:50.000 In which a bunch of people who are basically white supremacists pretend that they are actually just kind of normal Trump supporters, even though they overtly say radically racist, radically anti-semitic, overtly white supremacist things.

00:01:00.000 And then they've been going to various college events for people like Dan Crenshaw or Charlie Kirk or Matt Walsh. 0.98

00:01:06.000 And then they've been asking idiotic questions to them and discussing questions to them in an attempt to show that they are the true conservatives. 0.98

00:01:11.000 I talked about that and how the fact is that the left loves that. 0.99

00:01:14.000 Well, they love it because their entire goal is to lump in the entire mainstream right with the alt-right.

00:01:19.000 So that was the topic of the speech.

00:01:21.000 So it was sort of an awkward moment for the left, I will say. 0.99

00:01:24.000 It was an awkward moment because as I am doing a 35 to 40 minute speech about the evils of white supremacism and how racism is evil and how people who hijack conservative language in order to promote racism are disgusting, As I'm doing that, a bunch of these idiot lefty students, who just, I mean, beyond having no manners, are just stupid, they get up in the middle of the actual speech, and they decide it would be a good time, like, well, I'm ripping Nazis. 0.99

00:01:52.000 Well, I'm actually ripping white supremacists. 0.99

00:01:54.000 They say, now would be an excellent time to get up and protest.

00:01:58.000 Here's a little bit of what it sounded like.

00:02:02.000 Hey, hey! 0.96

00:02:03.000 Ho, ho! 1.00

00:02:04.000 That's a beautiful spectacle!

00:02:07.000 Ho, ho! 1.00

00:02:07.000 Hey, hey! 1.00

00:02:07.000 That's a beautiful spectacle! 1.00

00:02:10.000 I have one question.

00:02:18.000 Are you protesting the part where I'm condemning the Nazis?

00:02:22.000 Like, you hear what I'm doing right now.

00:02:23.000 Do you have ears?

00:02:25.000 I'm literally condemning Nazis, and you're telling me to leave.

00:02:30.000 Do you hear yourselves?

00:02:31.000 USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

00:02:38.000 I've got to be honest with you.

00:02:40.000 I'm extraordinarily puzzled. 0.99

00:02:42.000 I'm standing up here bashing the living shit out of Nazis, and they're telling me I have to leave over it. 0.99

00:02:47.000 What's a guy gotta do? 1.00

00:02:49.000 And it is astonishing.

00:02:51.000 The left is so all-fired interested, and the hard left is so all-fired interested in lumping everybody on the mainstream right in with the white supremacists, that they will literally get up and shout for people to leave while they are ripping white supremacism.

00:03:03.000 And it does show the agenda of the far left.

00:03:05.000 And by the way, it extends over into the media.

00:03:07.000 The Boston Globe last week suggested that The Daily Wire was an alt-right outpost.

00:03:11.000 We forced them to retract.

00:03:12.000 That follows on The Economist suggesting that I'm an alt-right sage.

00:03:15.000 We forced them to retract.

00:03:17.000 It just is incredible.

00:03:18.000 I thought that that was worthy of note, and it does demonstrate the complete disconnect from reality that is being had by so many people on the radical left, including in the mainstream Democratic Party, unfortunately.

00:03:28.000 Okay, meanwhile, the big news of the day is that Michael Bloomberg is jumping into the race.

00:03:33.000 Is that really big news that Michael Bloomberg is jumping into the race?

00:03:36.000 You mean a delusional billionaire from New York is jumping into the race?

00:03:39.000 It's not particularly shocking.

00:03:41.000 Bloomberg has been talking about it for a while.

00:03:42.000 He sort of has the same attitude that Howard Schultz, the former CEO of Starbucks, had when he was talking about jumping into the race, which is there aren't enough moderates in the Democratic Party to actually win an election.

00:03:52.000 He, of course, is correct.

00:03:54.000 And that's why Joe Biden is the best shot for Democrats to win the election of 2020 and not Elizabeth Warren.

00:03:58.000 You can see that Bloomberg is frightened that Warren is going to get the nomination.

00:04:02.000 He's been thinking about jumping in for quite a while.

00:04:04.000 Does he actually have a base?

00:04:06.000 The answer is pretty much no.

00:04:08.000 And Elizabeth Warren is doing exactly what you would expect her to do.

00:04:08.000 Pretty much no.

00:04:12.000 She is suggesting, of course, that Bloomberg is a billionaire and therefore he's bad.

00:04:15.000 Now, Elizabeth Warren, who is worth a hefty amount of money, by the way. 0.72

00:04:18.000 She has a very, very nice house in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

00:04:21.000 Elizabeth Warren pretending that she is not of the elite is one of the more amusing factors in this race. 0.95

00:04:25.000 It really is.

00:04:26.000 But Bloomberg is crazy if he thinks that he's getting any level of support in this primary.

00:04:31.000 It's also funny that that Bloomberg is now considered a moderate.

00:04:35.000 I mean, seriously, because Bloomberg, his policies in New York with, for example, banning certain soda sizes.

00:04:43.000 He's a full-on government control fanatic.

00:04:48.000 And this is somebody who wanted to ban basically all guns in the city of New York.

00:04:51.000 This is somebody who was intent on taxing the hell out of soda.

00:04:56.000 He actually closed the Manhattan worship services of something like 57 churches and synagogues.

00:05:03.000 According to nycreligion.info, way back when, this is 2012, in a move with no precedent in New York City history, Mayor Michael Bloomberg will shut down after today the worship services of scores of what he calls religious groups.

00:05:15.000 At least 57 churches and synagogues are affected.

00:05:18.000 Separation of church and state is one of the basics of our country, Bloomberg said at the time.

00:05:21.000 The more religious you are, I think the more you should want to keep the separation because someday the religion the state picks as the state religion might not be yours. 0.72

00:05:28.000 So he closed down a bunch of religious services that were taking place inside of schools.

00:05:34.000 And it's truly, this guy is not, in any way, a moderate.

00:05:39.000 And yet he, because the Democratic Party has moved so far to the left, is now a moderate.

00:05:44.000 He's now considered a moderate.

00:05:45.000 By the way, that policy was so bad on churches that Bill de Blasio reversed it.

00:05:48.000 In any case, Bloomberg, being a person with a lot of money and a lot of time on his hands, he has now announced he's jumping in.

00:05:53.000 According to Politico, former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg is preparing to file paperwork to qualify for the Democratic presidential primary in Alabama ahead of a Friday deadline.

00:06:03.000 The move would be a first step toward a national campaign, though Bloomberg has not made a decision to run.

00:06:06.000 We now need to finish the job and ensure that Trump is defeated.

00:06:06.000 run.

00:06:09.000 But Mike is increasingly concerned that the current field of candidates is not well positioned to do that.

00:06:14.000 Longtime Bloomberg aide Howard Wolfson said in an email, if Mike runs, he would offer a new choice to Democrats built on a unique record running America's biggest city, building a business from scratch and taking on some of America's toughest challenges as a high impact philanthropist.

00:06:26.000 See, the problem is that while Bloomberg is pretty far to the left on a lot of issues, he still happens to be a capitalist who's not completely insane on the state of Israel.

00:06:34.000 And and that means he has no shot at the nomination.

00:06:36.000 None.

00:06:37.000 Zero, zip, zilch.

00:06:38.000 But, he could carve into Joe Biden just a little bit.

00:06:41.000 You could see him carve into- like, so Elizabeth Warren should be pretty happy today that Bloomberg is jumping into the race, because obviously, he's not gonna draw support away from Elizabeth Warren, he's gonna draw support away from Joe Biden if he draws any level of support at all.

00:06:53.000 Now, honestly, when I first saw that Bloomberg was running, I thought, OK, maybe he's running as an independent.

00:06:58.000 I mean, truly, because if he had run as an independent, I think there's a shot that Michael Bloomberg could win 10 to 15 percent of the vote as an independent.

00:07:05.000 President Trump is pretty unpopular across the country.

00:07:07.000 The Democrats are going to run a radical.

00:07:09.000 Somebody running down the middle could actually create a fairly large groundswell.

00:07:13.000 But Bloomberg instead is going to run inside the Democratic Party, and he's immediately going to be ousted.

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00:08:47.000 Okay, so Politico says Bloomberg has engaged in a will-he-or-won't-he routine for longer than a decade about running for president, but he's declined to jump in each time.

00:08:56.000 Earlier this year, he was exploring a bid only to bow out after former VP Joe Biden made clear he would run.

00:09:01.000 Bloomberg said back in March, I believe I would defeat Trump in a general election, but I'm clear-eyed about the difficulty of winning the Democratic nomination in such a crowded field.

00:09:10.000 He's tired of being the almost-trans had one former Bloomberg advisor on Thursday. 0.99

00:09:14.000 Mortality is weighing heavily on him.

00:09:15.000 This is the last time he can run.

00:09:17.000 So basically, this is a personal decision because he's afraid that he's going to become irrelevant.

00:09:22.000 Bloomberg won't qualify for the next debate in Atlanta on November 20th.

00:09:25.000 He'll have to spend tens of millions of bucks in the next few weeks to make the debate stage in December.

00:09:30.000 That's okay though, because his current wealth is estimated at $52 billion, so he's got plenty of money to go around.

00:09:35.000 asked why Bloomberg changed his mind.

00:09:38.000 Nate said, it's not about anyone candidate, but he said he is worried about the state of the Democratic primary campaign, the possibility we could lose in November.

00:09:44.000 He wants to avoid that more than anything else.

00:09:47.000 Elizabeth Warren, as I say, immediately came out and ripped into him So did Bernie Sanders' campaign manager. 1.00

00:09:53.000 See, being a useless human being who has lived on the taxpayer dole for the last several decades while passing no significant legislation in Congress, that's better than being a billionaire who built up a business and then ran the city of New York for a decade.

00:10:07.000 Again, I do love the fact that inside the Democratic Party, somebody who built themselves up from pretty much nothing to be worth $52 billion is the enemy. 0.92

00:10:12.000 That person's bad.

00:10:12.000 shakir sanders way and weighed in on twitter saying the billionaire class is scared and they should be scared i again i do love the fact that inside the democratic party somebody who built themselves up from pretty much nothing to be worth 52 billion dollars is the enemy that person's bad clearly the people we should have running the country are not people who are capable of building up wealth people who are capable of running a business people who are capable of running a city in Instead, it should be useless people who are kicked out of a commune for not doing enough work, like Bernie Sanders, and then lived off the taxpayer dime since the time they were 30.

00:10:43.000 I mean, if I have to choose between, you know, a successful business person and a complete useless buffoon whose only level of credibility was achieved by running against Hillary Clinton, which, by the way, is the easiest way to achieve credibility. 0.98

00:10:43.000 Obviously. 0.98

00:10:54.000 And running against Hillary Clinton, it turns out, is basically gold for everyone.

00:10:58.000 Bernie Sanders, Donald Trump, Barack Obama.

00:11:00.000 Like, it's fantastic.

00:11:01.000 In fact, but if the Democratic Party has to choose between Bloomberg and Sanders, they will choose Sanders.

00:11:06.000 Elizabeth Warren doing the same routine, which is rich in irony, considering, in fact, again, Elizabeth Warren is worth a lot of money. 0.99

00:11:13.000 She is.

00:11:13.000 She's not a poor lady.

00:11:15.000 She says, if you're looking for policy plans that will make a huge difference for working people, and which are very popular, start here.

00:11:21.000 And then she clicked a link to her wealth tax, because obviously, this is all just class warfare, and the wealth tax is very popular with people. 0.71

00:11:28.000 Of course it's popular.

00:11:29.000 It's always been a popular proposition that if you can legally steal from somebody else, then great!

00:11:34.000 People tend to back the idea that they can steal money from other people, so long as they can get away with it.

00:11:39.000 David Axelrod, who is an aide to Barack Obama, said that really what this is about is Bloomberg being concerned that Biden was going to collapse here.

00:11:47.000 Apparently, Axelrod said there's no question that Bloomberg's calculus was that Biden was occupying a space.

00:11:51.000 The fact he's getting in is a clear indication he's not convinced Biden has the wherewithal to carry that torch.

00:11:56.000 So yeah, I don't think this is a positive development for Joe Biden.

00:12:00.000 Bloomberg has been ripping into Warren's wealth tax proposal.

00:12:04.000 He suggested her policies toward the rich could lead the United States on a path to becoming Venezuela, which of course is true if you take them far enough.

00:12:10.000 Bloomberg would be the second billionaire to jump in after Tom Steyer.

00:12:14.000 Joe Trippi, Democratic strategist, said he didn't think the former New York City mayor would enter the race without a realistic path to victory.

00:12:20.000 He says they probably did some actual polling.

00:12:23.000 So, you know, there's the feeling that this is at least more serious, but hardest hit is not Elizabeth Warren, hardest hit is Joe Biden.

00:12:29.000 Speaking of Elizabeth Warren, her radicalism is on full display.

00:12:33.000 So she was endorsed yesterday by Black Women For, Black Wimix, Wimix?

00:12:39.000 I don't even know how, Wimixon? 1.00

00:12:41.000 For?

00:12:41.000 Okay, which is a group, it's Wimixon because they don't want to say men, because men is a very bad word, right?

00:12:47.000 Really, so they spelled women, W-O-M-X-N, which makes it utterly unpronounceable.

00:12:53.000 It's like, it's like Cthulhu, right?

00:12:57.000 The crazed monster, the crazed scientific, the science fiction monster from fiction literature.

00:13:04.000 Wimixin. 0.99

00:13:06.000 Thank you, Black Wimixin. 1.00

00:13:08.000 There's no way to pronounce it.

00:13:10.000 Black, and then Elizabeth Warren got their endorsement. 0.97

00:13:12.000 Black trans and cis women, gender non-conforming and non-binary people are the backbone of our democracy.

00:13:18.000 And I don't take this endorsement lightly.

00:13:20.000 I'm committed to fighting alongside you for the big structural change our country needs.

00:13:25.000 Black, trans, and cis women, gender non-conforming and non-binary people, are the backbone of our democracy? 1.00

00:13:31.000 If by that she just means, like, all Americans are the backbone of our democracy, sure, why not?

00:13:35.000 Like, you're an American, welcome, you're the backbone of our democracy.

00:13:38.000 If she specifically means that, like, the key to our democracy Are gender non-conforming and non-binary people?

00:13:44.000 And black, trans, and cis women? 0.98

00:13:46.000 I'm gonna need some- I'm gonna need her to show her work on that one.

00:13:49.000 Like, really.

00:13:49.000 Like, if they're more significant than everybody- If she wants to say they're just as significant as anybody else- Yes, agree.

00:13:53.000 If you're saying they're more- Like, they're the backbone of democracy?

00:13:56.000 I'm gonna need her to show me some math.

00:13:58.000 Because I'm not- Not seeing how that works.

00:14:00.000 But this is Elizabeth Warren's shtick.

00:14:03.000 Now, the problem for Elizabeth Warren, again, is that she is completely out of touch with reality.

00:14:07.000 She happens to be completely inauthentic.

00:14:10.000 So again, Bloomberg jumping in the race helps Biden.

00:14:12.000 I mean, helps her against Biden.

00:14:14.000 But Elizabeth Warren is not doing herself any favors. 0.96

00:14:16.000 Demonstrating, once again, her inauthenticity.

00:14:19.000 She said yesterday at an event that if she had to choose between going out on the town and Netflix and chill, she favors Netflix and chill.

00:14:28.000 I don't think she knows what that means.

00:14:29.000 Here's Elizabeth Warren saying a thing.

00:14:31.000 Okay, Netflix and chill or Broadway and dinner?

00:14:35.000 Oh, Netflix and chill.

00:14:36.000 Okay.

00:14:38.000 Pretty sure she doesn't know what that means.

00:14:40.000 It doesn't mean you only watch Netflix.

00:14:42.000 Over the last several years, that term has morphed fairly significantly.

00:14:46.000 But she's with the people.

00:14:48.000 Okay, Boomer. 1.00

00:14:51.000 That's not her only area of craze.

00:14:53.000 So the entire Democratic Party yesterday, they were doing the climate change thing. 0.94

00:14:56.000 And that means it's time to propose ridiculous things. 0.99

00:14:58.000 So Bernie Sanders came out and proposed that his Green New Deal was going to require an expenditure of $17 trillion because money just comes directly from the ass of a unicorn. 0.98

00:15:07.000 So you can just spend that money. 0.93

00:15:09.000 On fighting the sun.

00:15:10.000 You can spend that money on ignoring the fact that China and India are not lowering their emissions anytime soon.

00:15:15.000 And that the United States is the leading decreaser in emissions in the world and has been for the last several years.

00:15:20.000 You can spend all that money to no effect.

00:15:22.000 But Bernie Sanders admitted it's really not, I mean on Twitter, he said this is not about actually lowering climate change, it's about restructuring the economy.

00:15:29.000 Elizabeth Warren had some words on climate change as well.

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00:16:53.000 Okay, so when Elizabeth Warren isn't pretending to be a woman of the people who likes to Netflix and chill, she is saying, she's making dire predictions about the future of Earth because the world is warming.

00:17:04.000 Here's Elizabeth Warren suggesting that there will be fights over land and water, unlike the rest of human history when there has never been a fight over land and water.

00:17:11.000 As the shorelines impinge on their traditional homelands, they will become climate refugees. 1.00

00:17:20.000 And it's true all around the world.

00:17:25.000 The consequence of that is not simply that people will need aid and help, but it's also that it will produce more conflict.

00:17:35.000 There will be fights over water.

00:17:38.000 There will be fights over land that can be farmed for food.

00:17:43.000 Okay, so again, all of these dire sort of predictions, they're not really borne out by sort of the best available projections.

00:17:49.000 You hear this all the time, that it's going to cause mass migration.

00:17:53.000 Well, over the course of the next hundred years, there will be population movement.

00:17:56.000 This has also been true throughout human history.

00:17:59.000 And when she makes these predictions about the rise in terrorism, and William Nordhaus writes about this in his book Climate Casino, These are things that are largely unpredictable.

00:18:08.000 The idea that she can forecast 100 years into the future with her magic wand.

00:18:13.000 She's got her magic mirror on the wall and she says, show me climate refugees. 0.98

00:18:17.000 And people keep saying it's climate refugees in Syria.

00:18:19.000 No, it's pretty much not about climate refugees in Syria.

00:18:21.000 It's pretty much about the fact that the Syrian regime has been slaughtering wholesale its enemies.

00:18:26.000 Trying to blame war on climate, it's hard to do that.

00:18:29.000 It really is.

00:18:31.000 And you want to know one way that you're actually going to be able to alleviate a lot of the environmental degradation with regard to loss of water and all of this?

00:18:39.000 That would be increased GDP.

00:18:42.000 Like, there are a lot of places on Earth that don't have tremendous natural resources, and thanks to increased GDP, they are able to take care of themselves.

00:18:47.000 Unfortunately, the proposals that Warren and her crew endorse are exactly the same sort of proposals that undercut the ability of developing countries to actually develop, so they're not reliant as much on the exact sources that are going to be undermined by the climate change that she fears.

00:19:02.000 It's not just Elizabeth Warren doing this routine. 0.99

00:19:04.000 Cory Booker is saying crazy things too.

00:19:06.000 So Cory Booker, who again is a complete irrelevancy in this particular race, he came out yesterday, he said that he was going to make foreign aid from the United States contingent on adopting American climate change policies, which is bizarre and crazy.

00:19:18.000 Because if you're making contingent foreign aid to Africa, if the contingency is that they have to adopt our climate emissions policy, Literally they're trying to keep their people from having to use dung as fuel over there.

00:19:32.000 I can't think of anything more cruel than saying our foreign aid to you is now dependent on you picking up developed world standards of climate emissions, of carbon emissions, while you are just trying to keep your people from living past, dying before the age of 40. 0.95

00:19:44.000 Here's Cory Booker saying something dumb.

00:19:47.000 America is the indispensable leader on the planet to deal with this issue. 0.97

00:19:51.000 Without us, we're not going to get there.

00:19:54.000 And so this is not just rejoining the Paris Climate Accords, which I will do right away.

00:19:59.000 It's actually using every lever of foreign policy we have, from our foreign aid to countries making a contingent on climate action.

00:20:08.000 It means using our diplomacy, our alliances, our trade deals, center to them must be labor and climate.

00:20:15.000 Okay, well, good luck with this.

00:20:16.000 Really, the key to actually developing beyond carbon-based fuels is going to be prosperity, not poverty, and linking trade to people making conditional Conditional policy about climate emissions is about the worst way of reducing climate emissions that you could possibly think of.

00:20:35.000 Then you just got Bernie Sanders who's just completely crazy.

00:20:37.000 He says, don't worry, we'll create 20 million new jobs fighting global warming.

00:20:41.000 Now, Sanders believes in the labor theory of value, like the Marxist labor theory of value.

00:20:44.000 So he thinks that if we just hire 20 million people to dig ditches, that we have created 20 million new jobs.

00:20:49.000 He's an actual believer that if you create a job, a person sitting on the side of the road, making a pie out of mud, that you have now created a job.

00:20:57.000 That's how you create jobs. 0.99

00:20:58.000 Here's Bernie Sanders saying dumb things.

00:21:01.000 I'm not here to suggest that my plan is going to solve every problem. 0.96

00:21:04.000 But my plan understands the severity of the crisis and acts boldly.

00:21:09.000 And in the process, when we make a fundamental transition away from fossil fuel to energy efficiency and sustainable energy, we create 20 million new jobs.

00:21:21.000 There will be some job loss.

00:21:22.000 But we create 20 million new jobs.

00:21:24.000 Yeah, there will be some job loss, like in every major industry in the United States.

00:21:28.000 And by the way, you're not going to create 20- I love that, again, the Democratic Party is saying that Bernie Sanders knows how to create jobs, but Michael Bloomberg does not.

00:21:35.000 That Elizabeth Warren knows how to create jobs, but Bill Gates does not.

00:21:39.000 The full-scale insanity of a party that suggests that people who are professors and lifelong legislators who have never achieved anything, that those are the people we should rely upon to run the United States economy.

00:21:49.000 Like, this is what Trump should be running against, obviously.

00:21:51.000 This is what the campaign should be about.

00:21:53.000 And Democrats know that that's what the campaign should be about, which is why, obviously, they are focusing in on impeachment.

00:21:58.000 That's why they're spending every waking moment thinking, how do we sink President Trump's approval ratings through all of this impeachment stuff?

00:22:05.000 Now, Trump is not handling himself great on the impeachment stuff, as you would fully predict.

00:22:10.000 The reason being that President Trump is sort of offended that this stuff is even happening in the first place.

00:22:14.000 And of course, he's offended by the fact that the media are willing to run with literally any story.

00:22:17.000 There's an incredibly non-credible Non-credible book by the author of it.

00:22:23.000 The book is called A Warning by an anonymous author, supposedly a top staffer in the Trump White House.

00:22:30.000 And it's not credible because literally the very first thing that was revealed about the book is that the book suggested that Mike Pence was ready to invoke the 25th Amendment against Trump.

00:22:37.000 It was completely non-credible.

00:22:38.000 Is that stopping the media from running front page stories about the book?

00:22:40.000 Of course not.

00:22:42.000 Instead, you've got the Washington Post running pieces by Philip Rucker about how the presidency is on the brink The piece says senior Trump administration officials considered resigning en masse last year in a midnight self-massacre to sound a public alarm about President Trump's conduct, but rejected the idea because they believe it would further destabilize an already teetering government, according to a new book by an unnamed author.

00:23:03.000 Again, these are just completely wild, speculative comments with no basis in actual evidence, and it's being run on by the media.

00:23:11.000 I mean, the media are fully invested in building up the narrative that things are crazy over at the White House, that it's impeachment-gated.

00:23:17.000 Again, because you look at that Democratic field, when it's that, when it's so weak that Michael Bloomberg is like, you know what?

00:23:22.000 I've been waiting for 20 years to jump in.

00:23:23.000 Now's the time.

00:23:25.000 That's how you know the Democrats have a problem.

00:23:26.000 In a second, we're going to get to the latest in Impeachment Gauge 2019.

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00:24:50.000 Okay, so.

00:24:51.000 The Democrats are apparently now moving their deadline to Christmas.

00:24:56.000 So originally they said they were going to try and move this thing by the end of October.

00:24:59.000 Then they said they're going to move this thing by the end of Thanksgiving.

00:25:01.000 Now they say they're going to move this thing by Christmas.

00:25:04.000 I have my doubts.

00:25:05.000 I think they're probably gonna carry this thing over into next year, again, because as they see that their field is weak, it behooves them to carry the impeachment thing forward into 2020.

00:25:13.000 So the original idea was, we get this thing over quick and dirty, we know we don't necessarily have enough, and therefore, we are going to just do it, get our base on board, and then we move on to the election.

00:25:22.000 But, as they see that their own field is filled with problems, as they see that their own field is filled with radicals who do not have a wonderful chance at winning in the middle of the country, Their best play is to push impeachment through into next year.

00:25:38.000 So make him wrong.

00:25:39.000 Maybe this thing ends by Christmas.

00:25:41.000 I have serious doubts.

00:25:42.000 I think it is much more likely that this thing pushes forward all the way into the Democratic primaries so the Democrats can keep going into debates and instead of debating each other, they can rip on Trump being super corrupt.

00:25:51.000 According to CNN, House Democrats are signaling they are now on a fast track in their impeachment proceedings, avoiding court battles that could delay their inquiry, limiting the number of witnesses at public hearings, all signs that President Trump could be impeached as soon as next month.

00:26:04.000 House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has not shared her thinking on the final timeline with her colleagues.

00:26:07.000 Democratic sources say the timing is still fluid and could continue to evolve.

00:26:11.000 But in a series of moves this week, Democrats have shown they are rapidly moving to complete the proceedings by Christmas, something that could result in Trump being just the third president to be impeached in history.

00:26:19.000 The schedule became apparent, according to CNN, in recent days after House Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff, a California Democrat, announced that public hearings would begin next week and also suggested Thursday that there's a limit to the witnesses that they would call for the public hearings.

00:26:33.000 Now, again, I don't think that that is absolutely correct.

00:26:36.000 I think that if the Democrats feel like they're actually making political hay, if they're watching the polls and the polls start to rise in terms of support for impeachment, they're going to delay this thing.

00:26:44.000 They're going to continue to drag it out.

00:26:45.000 Because why rush?

00:26:46.000 It makes more political sense to actually have this thing take a while.

00:26:50.000 The more TV time you get, the worse it hurts Trump, would be the theory.

00:26:53.000 Plus, Democrats also withdrew a subpoena of a former White House official to ensure their proceedings were not delayed by a court battle.

00:26:58.000 So they decided not to subpoena John Bolton because John Bolton said, well, you're going to have to get a court order.

00:27:04.000 And they're like, no, no, no, we're not going to do that.

00:27:06.000 Everybody's logic has sort of been shifting on this.

00:27:08.000 The Democrats originally wanted to fast track it, then they wanted to slow track it.

00:27:11.000 Now, supposedly, they want to fast track it again.

00:27:15.000 The next phases of House impeachment proceedings could conclude before 2020.

00:27:18.000 Apparently Schiff has announced three witnesses will testify next week publicly.

00:27:22.000 Democratic lawmakers expect at least one more week of public hearings before his panel, likely to follow on the week of November 18th.

00:27:28.000 Now, here's the thing.

00:27:30.000 Some of the testimony favors Trump.

00:27:31.000 A lot of the testimony does not favor Trump.

00:27:33.000 The theory that is now being trotted out by some in sort of Trump's camp and in the Republican Senate is that Okay, fine.

00:27:40.000 So there were people who wanted to quit pro quo.

00:27:42.000 There were people who wanted to pressure Ukraine using military aid to go after Joe Biden, but it wasn't really Trump.

00:27:47.000 It was really all these lackeys.

00:27:49.000 It was like Rudy Giuliani.

00:27:50.000 It was Gordon Sondland.

00:27:51.000 This is not gonna play.

00:27:52.000 I'm sorry, this narrative is not going to play.

00:27:54.000 It's not gonna play because it's obviously not true.

00:27:57.000 It isn't.

00:27:58.000 If you think that Rudy Giuliani was freelancing with Sondland without Trump's approval, he is Trump's personal attorney.

00:28:03.000 If you think that Trump was not involved in talking with Rudy about what was going on in Ukraine and about those investigations, That is not credible.

00:28:10.000 And yet today you had President Trump like he is his own worst defense lawyer.

00:28:13.000 It's truly incredible.

00:28:14.000 Here is President Trump today, suggesting, Gordon Sondland?

00:28:17.000 I barely even know Gordon Sondland.

00:28:18.000 The reason Gordon Sondland is the EU ambassador is because he gave a million bucks to Trump in the 2016 election cycle.

00:28:23.000 Here is Trump claiming that he doesn't know who Gordon Sondland is.

00:28:26.000 Let me just tell you, I hardly know the gentleman.

00:28:29.000 But this is the man who said there was no quid pro quo.

00:28:34.000 And he still says that.

00:28:36.000 And he said that.

00:28:37.000 I said that.

00:28:38.000 And he hasn't changed that testimony.

00:28:41.000 So, this is a man that said, as far as the President is concerned, there was no quid pro quo.

00:28:48.000 Everybody that's testified, even the ones that are Trump haters, they've all been fined.

00:28:54.000 They don't have anything.

00:28:55.000 OK, well, the last defense, right, which is that they are all saying if there is a quid pro quo, they're saying that based on third party testimony or based on their own perception of the issues.

00:29:03.000 That's true.

00:29:03.000 But the I don't know, Gordon Sondland thing and the attempt to say, well, maybe this is all cooked up by, you know, Kurt Volker and Sondland and Giuliani independent of Trump.

00:29:11.000 That's not going to work.

00:29:12.000 It's not going to work.

00:29:13.000 The best defense, as always, is the defense that was laid out by me.

00:29:17.000 And then it's been picked up by some in the Senate, including Senator Cruz.

00:29:19.000 The best defense here is that President Trump overall was interested in Ukrainian corruption in the 2016 election and that in his mind, he'd been given a bunch of information by Rudy Giuliani, some of it bad, he wrapped it all up in a ball and he said, I want all of this cleared up before the aid goes to Ukraine, right?

00:29:34.000 That was always the best defense.

00:29:35.000 It remains the best defense.

00:29:36.000 And by the way, it is back to a certain extent by testimony of some of the witnesses Democrats are calling.

00:29:40.000 So one of the people who was called and whose testimony has now been publicly revealed is Deputy Assistant Secretary George Kent, who oversaw Ukraine policy at the State Department.

00:29:51.000 So according to the media, they're ignoring the actual interesting part of his testimony.

00:29:54.000 He told lawmakers that Trump demanded that the country's new president, Vladimir Zelensky, announce investigations into the 2016 election.

00:30:01.000 Trump's former rival, Hillary Clinton, and former VP, Joe Biden, in exchange for an Oval Office meeting.

00:30:06.000 He said that Trump wanted nothing less than President Zelensky to go to a microphone and say investigations Biden and Clinton.

00:30:12.000 That's what he said in his testimony.

00:30:14.000 But he also acknowledged that he'd not heard that directly from Trump.

00:30:17.000 He said that that was not something that he and Trump ever personally discussed.

00:30:21.000 So that was his perception.

00:30:23.000 So his perception is as good as your perception on all of this.

00:30:26.000 He doesn't have inside information that that is exactly what Trump wanted.

00:30:29.000 He's seeing the same material that you have now seen publicly.

00:30:32.000 But there's another problem, which is that buried deep down in this New York Times article about all of this, is Ken's acknowledging that there were significant concerns inside the State Department about, wait for it, Joe Biden, circa 2015.

00:30:45.000 I'm reading directly to you from the testimony of George Kent now.

00:30:49.000 The questioner says, the vice president's involvement with Ukraine is pretty significant at that point in time.

00:30:54.000 And it remained until he, you know, through 2016, correct?

00:30:56.000 And Ken says yes.

00:30:57.000 And then the questioner says, the question was, you know, were there any discussions of perceived conflict of interest on the part of either Hunter Biden or the vice president?

00:31:05.000 Answer.

00:31:05.000 When I was, the first time I was in Ukraine as acting deputy chief of mission in the period mid-January to mid-February 2015, subsequent to me going into the deputy prosecutor general on February 3rd and demanding who took the bribe and how much of it was to shut the case against Zlochevsky, I became aware that Hunter Biden was on the board.

00:31:20.000 I didn't know that at the time.

00:31:22.000 And when I was on a call with somebody on the VP staff, I can't recall who it was, just briefing on what was happening in Ukraine, I raised my concerns.

00:31:28.000 I had heard that Hunter Biden was on the board of a company owned by somebody, that the U.S.

00:31:32.000 government had spent money trying to get tens of millions of dollars back, and that it could create the perception of a conflict of interest.

00:31:37.000 Question, what did the person on the other end of the line tell you?

00:31:40.000 The message I recall hearing back was that the vice president's son, Beau, was dying of cancer, and that there was no further bandwidth to deal with family-related issues at that time.

00:31:48.000 And he says that was the end of that conversation.

00:31:52.000 Okay, that's a pretty suspicious answer, is it not?

00:31:56.000 I mean, does that mean that it's really all that bad for Trump to raise the question of Hunter Biden?

00:32:00.000 George Kent himself is saying it's pretty suspicious that Hunter Biden is on that board.

00:32:03.000 I raised it with the Obama administration.

00:32:05.000 They said, oh, we didn't have the bandwidth because Beau was dying.

00:32:07.000 I'm not aware that the entire federal government runs at the behest of the vice president of the United States.

00:32:12.000 It seems like the vice president should at least take the question as to what, that's not a family related issue.

00:32:17.000 That's a corruption related issue.

00:32:19.000 That's pretty amazing.

00:32:21.000 It's pretty amazing, right?

00:32:22.000 Jim Jordan asked, you knew Burisma was a troubled, corrupt company, right?

00:32:25.000 And Ken said, it had a reputation for not being the cleanest member of the business community.

00:32:32.000 So all of this, you know, raises some serious questions.

00:32:34.000 And that means that Trump's best defense, as always, that there is this bag of corruption in Ukraine. 0.83

00:32:39.000 It includes Hunter and Joe Biden, and that's what he was talking about.

00:32:42.000 And it also includes his wrongfully informed perceptions of CrowdStrike, et cetera.

00:32:49.000 There's another story today that Tucker Carlson broke on his show last night in which he is claiming that Maria Ivanovich, who was appointed to be U.S.

00:32:56.000 Ambassador to Ukraine, allegedly made false statements under oath during her October 11th closed-door testimony in House Democrats impeachment inquiry.

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00:34:10.000 Okay, more on ImpeachmentGate.

00:34:11.000 And we'll get to Roger Stone.

00:34:12.000 Also, I wanna do some mailbagging.

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00:35:28.000 Speaking of further developments in the impeachment gate saga, apparently, according to Ryan Seveder reporting for dailywire.com, Maria Ivanovich, who was appointed to be the US Ambassador to Ukraine by former President Obama, allegedly made false statements under oath during her October 11th closed-door testimony in House Democrats' impeachment inquiry.

00:35:53.000 According to Fox News' Tucker Carlson, before the contents of the whistleblower complaint were known publicly, a Democratic congressional staffer contacted the former American ambassador to Ukraine to discuss what the staffer described as a quite delicate and time-sensitive question.

00:36:06.000 This show has obtained exclusively an email for that Democratic staffer for the House Foreign Affairs Committee sent by private email to the former American Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch, Carlson continued.

00:36:16.000 Yovanovitch, you know, is a key player in the Democrats impeachment probe and was recalled from her post in Ukraine by President Trump in May 2019 following allegations of serious partisanship and political bias.

00:36:26.000 The email that Carlson obtained states, quote, I'm writing to see if you would have time to meet up for a chat.

00:36:30.000 In particular, I'm hoping to discuss some Ukraine-related oversight questions we are exploring.

00:36:34.000 I'd appreciate the change to ground truth a few pieces of information with you, some of which are quite delicate and time-sensitive, and thus, we want to make sure we get them right.

00:36:41.000 That email was sent on August 14th, said Carlson, two days after the whistleblower complaint was filed, a month before the complaint became public.

00:36:49.000 The whistleblower, however, went to Adam Schiff's team before filing the complaint.

00:36:52.000 The question, Carlson says, is did Schiff's office tell other Democrats on Capitol Hill what was in the complaint?

00:36:57.000 In other words, how long did this effort play out in secret before the rest of the country learned of it?

00:37:02.000 Carlson also noted that Representative Lee Zeldin of New York asked Yovanovitch about email during her testimony, and she allegedly stated she never responded to that email.

00:37:09.000 Carlson says, in fact, it turns out she did respond.

00:37:11.000 She said she looked forward to chatting with the Democratic staffer.

00:37:14.000 As Congressman Zeldin pointed out, the ambassador's original answer, which was dishonest, was given under oath.

00:37:20.000 Zeldin confirmed Carlson's statement on Twitter.

00:37:22.000 He wrote, it appears Ambassador Yovanovitch did not accurately answer this question I asked her during her impeachment inquiry deposition under oath.

00:37:29.000 So that could be a problem.

00:37:31.000 Fox News' Greg Ray later reported that Yovanovitch replied to the staffer identified by Fox News' Laura Carey, saying she would quote, love to reconnect and look forward to chatting with you.

00:37:39.000 Zeldin told Fox News, I would highly suspect this Democratic staffer's work was connected in some way to the whistleblower's effort, which has evolved into this impeachment charade.

00:37:46.000 We do know that the whistleblower was in contact with Schiff's team before the whistleblower had even hired an attorney or filed a whistleblower complaint, even though Schiff had lied to the public originally claiming there was no contact.

00:37:56.000 Zeldin says, I specifically asked Yovanovitch whether the Democratic staffer was responded to by Yovanovitch or the State Department.

00:38:02.000 It is greatly concerning that Yovanovitch didn't answer my questions as honestly as she should have, especially, well, under oath.

00:38:08.000 So people on the right are pointing out, well, if Yovanovitch was not telling the truth under oath, should that be a legal problem for her, considering that we are now in the process of a major trial of Roger Stone specifically for lying to investigators?

00:38:22.000 It is, again, several things, as I always like to say, can be going on at once.

00:38:28.000 Thing going on, number one, there can be troubling questions to be asked about the Trump-Ukraine withholding of military aid.

00:38:33.000 Was it done for personal benefit or political benefit?

00:38:35.000 Was it done instead because Trump perceived corruption in Ukraine?

00:38:38.000 Those are questions that are going to be asked and answered.

00:38:40.000 Also, was this whole thing organized behind the scenes by Adam Schiff as a way to get Trump?

00:38:46.000 They can both be true, but certainly if this looks like a partisan effort by Democrats to quote-unquote get Trump organized with the help of Democratic partisans in the so-called deep state, it's really going to undercut the credibility of the inquiry ultimately, which is why you're seeing Adam Schiff now say that he doesn't want the whistleblower interviewed.

00:39:02.000 By the way, there's another story today about the whistleblower suggesting that the whistleblower apparently was a Biden guest at a State Department banquet in October of 2016 to honor the Prime Minister of Italy.

00:39:16.000 So, all of this, it can all be a mess, and it appears to all be a mess.

00:39:20.000 Okay, you know what?

00:39:21.000 We haven't done mailbag in a while, so let's do some mailbag here on the Ben Shapiro Show.

00:39:25.000 Ariel says, Hey Ben, I've had a question on my mind for some time now, would like your insight.

00:39:29.000 Considering all the people who have left the Democratic Party due to movements like Jexodus, Blexit, and WalkAway, do you think Trump is headed for a landslide?

00:39:35.000 Also, how do we believe the pools after the 2016, the polls I assume, after the 2016 fiasco?

00:39:40.000 Thanks for your hard work and all you do.

00:39:42.000 Okay, so, I don't know that Trump is headed for a landslide.

00:39:45.000 I think that the country is too closely divided for anybody to win a landslide anymore.

00:39:48.000 I just don't think that that is a thing that is likely to happen unless the economy tanks, in which it would be a landslide the other way.

00:39:54.000 I will say that some of the new polls, particularly in the swing states, are showing surprising Trump resiliency, particularly among minorities.

00:40:01.000 Actually, he's polling better among minorities in terms of approval rating than he did back in 2016.

00:40:06.000 If he starts to carve away some of those numbers from the Democratic base, they've got a real problem on their hands.

00:40:12.000 Listen, I think that minority groups in the United States have been ill-served by the Democratic Party.

00:40:16.000 I think the Democratic Party has counted on their support and done nothing for them.

00:40:20.000 I think that they've basically misdirected away from the fact that the Democratic Party has not served members of the black community, the Jewish community, the Hispanic community.

00:40:30.000 I think that they've lied about that by basically suggesting that Republicans are anti-black, anti-Hispanic, anti-Jewish, and all the rest of this nonsense.

00:40:37.000 But the fact is that the Republican Party can always do a better job of outreach.

00:40:42.000 Honestly, I'll be fascinated to see in 2020 whether Trump actually carves into some of those numbers.

00:40:48.000 Because he did not underperform.

00:40:49.000 Trump did not underperform among Hispanics in 2016.

00:40:52.000 He performed basically the same as Mitt Romney did.

00:40:55.000 And among black voters, there was some suggestion that he may have outperformed Romney among black voters and that those numbers may be growing.

00:41:00.000 So that'll be fascinating to watch.

00:41:02.000 Alex says, one of my closest friends from high school, whom I've lost contact with since graduation several years ago, has transitioned to what I assume is the female gender, though he is using pronouns they, there.

00:41:11.000 I'll be meeting with him on Monday for the first time since his transition.

00:41:14.000 He's one of my closest friends, so I know him well and know that he has struggled with depression for many years.

00:41:18.000 He has never showed any signs of femininity or any desire to become female.

00:41:21.000 I'd like to help him, but don't know how.

00:41:23.000 Any suggestions would be welcome.

00:41:24.000 I love your show.

00:41:25.000 Thanks for all you do.

00:41:25.000 Well, I mean, frankly, look, In personal relationships, you always treat people with sensitivity.

00:41:30.000 This is completely separate from the generalized question as to whether we should acknowledge that men can become women and women can become men.

00:41:36.000 So I've said before on this show and in public that, and I've done this before, that if you are in a personal one-on-one conversation with somebody who is transgender, then you treat them Normally, meaning, like, you don't go out of your way to say things that are gonna make them feel bad, obviously.

00:41:52.000 With that said, if you are on such an intimate basis with this person, if you're on such a first-person basis with this person, that you can say to them, listen, I only want what's best for you, and I'm afraid that you're making decisions about yourself and your body that are gonna be damaging to you long-term, I know you well enough to know that this is a mistake, what you're doing, then there's nothing wrong with saying that.

00:42:12.000 Really, I mean, I'm bewildered by the idea that you always have to, like, that you can't intervene with anybody regardless of their personal condition.

00:42:19.000 If somebody in your family were depressed and they were considering doing something bad to themselves, you would intervene and you would say, like, I think this is a mistake.

00:42:25.000 If you're on that level with somebody. 0.97

00:42:26.000 Now, if you're not on that level, then going out of your way to offend the person I think is dumb. 0.91

00:42:29.000 But that's only something that you can tell. 0.89

00:42:32.000 It's really between you and the other person how close your relationship is.

00:42:35.000 Now, none of that has any impact on the generalized political debate as to whether the law should pretend that men who say they are women are actually women.

00:42:41.000 The answer there is no.

00:42:42.000 Or whether the law should compel people to use preferred pronouns.

00:42:45.000 The answer is no.

00:42:46.000 It's violative of the First Amendment and violative of basic biology.

00:42:49.000 But on a sensitivity level, there are lots of things you do that are sensitive to other people that you don't want approved on a societal level.

00:42:56.000 You always treat people with sensitivity and decency on a personal level, even if you believe that generalized policy is best off setting up an incentive structure that does not incentivize bad behavior.

00:43:06.000 Mary says, I really enjoyed your talk at Stanford this week.

00:43:08.000 Appreciate it.

00:43:09.000 I recently had a conversation with a friend about whether there is systemic racism in the United States, and she brought up some studies that suggest black patients are taken less seriously by doctors, and as a result, have worse health outcomes than non-black patients for the same diseases and conditions.

00:43:20.000 Do you have any insight or alternative explanation for these statistics?

00:43:24.000 Thanks for everything you do.

00:43:24.000 So I have taken a look at a lot of these studies, and I don't find the studies to be entirely credible.

00:43:30.000 And the reason I don't find the studies to be entirely credible, and you can cite particular studies, we can go through them actually, there are specific studies that suggest that, for example, when black patients report a certain level of pain, they get opioids less frequently than white patients do.

00:43:46.000 Now, is that a result of people being racist against black people or is that a result of there being a generalized concern about the white patients being more whiny in terms of Yelp, for example?

00:44:00.000 These things actually do play into how doctors treat patients, unfortunately.

00:44:04.000 I mean in blind study, it is also true that attempting to attribute all of this to race as opposed to behavioral differences in patients, patients behave differently all the time.

00:44:16.000 I mean, they really do.

00:44:17.000 And trying to attribute that to a racial divide, specifically, tends not to work.

00:44:22.000 Now, I'd want to actually go through the specific studies that are being cited, because there have been a bunch of them.

00:44:27.000 But they always seem to be more correlative than causative.

00:44:31.000 It's not like a black person comes into the... Like there was one study, for example, that showed that doctors who are less good tended to believe in things about black patients that were not true.

00:44:42.000 Like black patients have thicker skin or something. 0.99

00:44:44.000 And the answer to that is not that the entire medical profession is racist. 0.99

00:44:47.000 It's that doctors who suck at things also tend not to know things. 0.97

00:44:51.000 They tend to be bad doctors, and doctors who are bad are bad. 0.96

00:44:53.000 So that's a study that shows that bad doctors are bad doctors, not that doctors are generally racist and therefore that doctors are treating black patients worse.

00:45:02.000 So I'm very suspicious of studies that suggest that doctors overall are somehow imbued with the sense of racism in medical school.

00:45:09.000 Like, again, I don't see the evidence for that.

00:45:14.000 It's sort of a weird supposition.

00:45:16.000 And the studies that I've seen, again, tend to be more correlative than causative.

00:45:19.000 They'll take a bad doctor who doesn't know things, and then they'll be like, oh, the bad doctor doesn't know things.

00:45:22.000 That means that the bad doctor is a racist and that racism is widespread.

00:45:25.000 And that's a bit of a stretch.

00:45:26.000 Elijah says, hey Ben, love the show.

00:45:28.000 While I'm a libertarian personally, I've got a few Bernie bro friends who are all enchanted by the political work of Noam Chomsky, claiming that America's political systems are controlled by corporate interests, that the wealthy control all of society, we need economic democracy, et cetera.

00:45:39.000 What are some good arguments that rebuke these contentions?

00:45:42.000 Well, I mean, how about the fact that a huge number of people who go into politics, including Bernie Sanders, are wildly successful by ripping on rich people?

00:45:49.000 Elizabeth Warren is probably going to win the Democratic nomination by ripping on rich people. 1.00

00:45:54.000 The idea that corporations control the United States government while the corporate tax rate was not even competitive with most of the business world abroad for decades is somewhat telling.

00:46:06.000 Also, it is true that there are lots of union interests who are, quote-unquote, not corporations, who have an enormous amount of power.

00:46:13.000 It doesn't line up with reality, in other words.

00:46:14.000 If the idea is that all of politics is compelled by corporate interests, is the idea that both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party are controlled by the corporations?

00:46:21.000 Which corporations are we talking about?

00:46:23.000 Are we talking about left-wing corporations or right-wing corporations?

00:46:26.000 And by the way, is the solution to that to have a cadre of, so I guess the complaint is that a cadre of supremely powerful, disproportionately powerful people are controlling the United States government.

00:46:39.000 So your solution to that is to create a cadre of completely unanswerable, powerful people, not answerable to outside American voting or economic investment in politics.

00:46:51.000 But stand at the top of the government and just distribute everything.

00:46:53.000 So your answer to a powerful cadre of people controlling the United States government is a more powerful cadre of people who have never created a job controlling the power of government.

00:47:02.000 Makes sense.

00:47:03.000 In crazy towns.

00:47:04.000 Kenneth says, we recently had a transgender male to female join our company.

00:47:07.000 I've been organizing my thoughts on transgender topics.

00:47:09.000 While I don't agree with the transgender agenda, I'm still a bit confused about why civil rights laws might not apply to the transgender community.

00:47:15.000 For example, I recently read that religiously affiliated adoption agencies can opt not to provide services to anyone who is LGBT due to freedom of religion.

00:47:23.000 I believe you discussed this several times before, but would you be able to provide insight into the transgender versus civil rights debate?

00:47:28.000 Well, again, civil rights is about race specifically.

00:47:33.000 It's about immutable characteristics, and there's no discrimination on the basis of immutable characteristics.

00:47:38.000 Quote-unquote discrimination against transgender behavior is discrimination against behavior.

00:47:44.000 Meaning that the entire argument of the transgender movement is that your inward self-identification is what is being discriminated against when you change your outward behavior.

00:47:55.000 And that is a weird statement because, again, the vast majority of human behavior is connected to some sort of inner feeling.

00:48:02.000 And we discriminate on the basis of behavior all the time.

00:48:05.000 There's a vast difference between saying to somebody, you can't work here because you are black, an unchangeable feature about yourself, and here's Bob, and then he came into work today, dressed as Sally, or here is Sally, who is a woman, and she came into work today, dressed as Bob, and she's now having hormone treatments, and this is a Hooters. 0.89

00:48:23.000 And she wants to work here, and wants to be called he, and is Bob now.

00:48:29.000 The problem, again, is that when it comes to human behavior, the only thing that we can treat based upon is behavior that is outwardly visible to people.

00:48:36.000 Behavior that is outwardly visible to people.

00:48:38.000 So there's a difference between behaviorally-driven discrimination, which is stuff that we do every day, and identity-driven discrimination.

00:48:45.000 What the left has done is they've conflated inner feeling with identity, which is a pretty hefty trick.

00:48:50.000 A pretty solid trick, actually.

00:48:52.000 Alrighty.

00:48:53.000 So, we're gonna do a quick thing I like, a quick thing I hate, and then we will Be at the end of the week, guys.

00:48:58.000 Wow.

00:48:58.000 Okay, time for a quick thing I like.

00:49:00.000 So, Chris Stapleton is a fun country singer, and there's a great new video that he has put out.

00:49:06.000 I just enjoyed this, because my business partner sent this to me, and honestly, I just got a kick out of it.

00:49:10.000 I thought you'd get a kick out of it, too.

00:49:11.000 The entire video is wild and crazy.

00:49:13.000 It basically is a Lego version of a Chris Stapleton concert.

00:49:18.000 Apparently, it features the voice of Chris Pratt.

00:49:19.000 It's a lot of fun.

00:49:19.000 Check it out.

00:49:20.000 I won't leave my life behind.

00:49:23.000 Don't let me be the second one to know.

00:49:27.000 You're the second one to know.

00:49:50.000 It's pretty wild and crazy going on.

00:49:51.000 Go check it out.

00:49:52.000 It's kind of a fun music video.

00:49:53.000 It's appropriate for the kiddies and it's kind of a kick.

00:49:55.000 Okay, time for a quick thing that I hate.

00:50:02.000 Okay, so, a couple of quick things that I hate, actually.

00:50:05.000 So, according to the Christian Post, parents who filed a human rights complaint against a school where their six-year-old daughter was being taught there is no such thing as boys and girls have now filed a lawsuit against the school board principal and the teacher.

00:50:17.000 This is in Canada.

00:50:18.000 The teacher, who taught a first-grade class at Devonshire Community Public School in Ontario, Canada last year, presented a YouTube video on gender.

00:50:25.000 presented a YouTube video on gender called He, She, and They, Gender, Queer Kid Stuff 2, which was part of the lesson plan that day, Pamela Buffon, the mother of a six-year-old girl, told the Postmillennial earlier this year.

00:50:36.000 Buffon and her husband subsequently filed a complaint with the Ontario Human Rights Tribunal against the school system after their daughter started worrying she might not be female after watching the video.

00:50:45.000 Last week, the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms, a legal advocacy organization specializing in Canadian constitutional law that is representing the Buffons and their daughter, filed an amended application noting the child's rights to security of the person and equality were being infringed.

00:51:00.000 Buffon said she was very passionate about all kinds of social justice topics, most of which our daughter really enjoyed learning about.

00:51:05.000 The teacher of the first grade class had drawn a gender spectrum on the whiteboard and asked the children where they placed on the spectrum.

00:51:11.000 Buffon's daughter picked up the furthest end of the spectrum designated girl.

00:51:14.000 Their human rights complaint claims the teacher instructed the class that girls are not real and boys are not real, which greatly distressed their daughter. 0.98

00:51:20.000 Of course it did, because that's asinine. 0.98

00:51:22.000 It's ridiculous and abiological and anti-scientific. 1.00

00:51:26.000 And the fact that this stuff is being taught in schools now, if you think that doesn't have an impact on kids, it's because you're an idiot. 1.00

00:51:30.000 It's amazing. 1.00

00:51:32.000 People on the left will suggest that everything has an impact on kids.

00:51:34.000 You bringing your kid to a church, a July 4th parade.

00:51:37.000 Everything.

00:51:38.000 Violence on TV.

00:51:38.000 It all has an impact on your kids.

00:51:40.000 But, then they say, we're also going to teach your 5-year-old that he can be a she and she can be a he.

00:51:44.000 It won't have any impact on your kids at all. 1.00

00:51:46.000 Yeah, if you're crazy, if you're a crazy person. 0.95

00:51:48.000 Speaking of crazy people, according to the UK Daily Mirror, a cafe has now replaced the term gingerbread men with gender-neutral gingerbread person, which is a bit of a mouthful, just like a gingerbread man. 0.95

00:52:01.000 According to the Daily Mirror, when a customer at the tannery in Auckland questioned why human-shaped snacks were called gingerbread men and not gingerbread people, owner Andre Satina was inspired to make a change.

00:52:10.000 The label on the jar has now been changed to read gingerbread gender-neutral person.

00:52:16.000 Which is kind of hilarious.

00:52:18.000 He says it was completely tongue-in-cheek from the start, but it's become a really good conversation piece in the cafe.

00:52:24.000 He says, it used to be that 90% of the time we sold the gingerbread men, it was to kids.

00:52:28.000 There's a lot more people buying them now, which is quite funny.

00:52:31.000 Apparently, they posted a picture of the jar with the caption, a little something for everyone with a winking face.

00:52:37.000 It's unbelievable.

00:52:39.000 Honestly, if you're so bothered by gingerbread men that you have to have the jar changed at the local bakery, you got problems bigger than the gingerbread men.

00:52:45.000 Okay, we'll be here later today with two additional hours of content.

00:52:49.000 Ah, so I will see you there then.

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Bloomberg Is The News | Ep. 893

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