The Ben Shapiro Show - Collusion Confusion | Ep. 339

00:00:00.000 On Thursday, Politico announced that Huffington Post would be taking its readers on a voyage of discovery to strange, uncharted lands.

00:00:07.000 Like Vasco da Gama, venturing out into new territories, Huffington Post will be packing a few of its staffers onto a leaky bus and taking them on a cross-country, seven-week tour through the dark, mysterious Middle America.

00:00:19.000 The cost?

00:00:20.000 One million dollars.

00:00:21.000 Yes, I am not joking.

00:00:23.000 This is the story.

00:00:23.000 Quote, Starting in September, a traveling party of rotating HuffPost staff members, led by Editor-in-Chief Lydia Polgreen,

00:00:29.000 We'll visit more than 20 cities, eschewing the coasts for the likes of Fort Worth, Indiana, Oxford, Mississippi, and Odessa, Texas.

00:00:35.000 At each city, the site will host events, roll out planned stories with local media outlets, send out reporters to write about the communities and collect stories from residents in their own words.

00:00:43.000 This would be identity defining for HuffPost, said Paul Green in an interview.

00:00:47.000 We are in a moment for determining our own identity and the role we play in the overall news ecosystem and what the next iteration of that looks like.

00:00:54.000 And this felt like a great way to go out and report out the story of who we should be in the world.

00:00:58.000 Don't worry, gang.

00:00:59.000 The leftist media isn't out of touch or anything.

00:01:01.000 This does show that so-called flyover country is new to the media.

00:01:04.000 Their disconnect with people who live in Texas and Oklahoma and Alabama and Michigan and Wisconsin, it's quite real.

00:01:10.000 They don't understand their values.

00:01:11.000 They don't understand their lifestyles.

00:01:13.000 This is why CNN's Aaron Burnett mocks Christian pastors for laying hands on President Trump.

00:01:18.000 They did the same for Obama, but nobody cared.

00:01:19.000 And why the entire media was shocked that anybody would vote for Trump in the first place.

00:01:23.000 But it won't just suffice to visit these places.

00:01:26.000 Until the media begins hiring in these areas, they won't have boots on the ground, or perspective into the places they seek to cover.

00:01:31.000 Jet-setting through Odessa isn't exactly going to provide the sort of empathetic analysis the left lacks about people outside of New York and LA.

00:01:38.000 And so the Huffington Post tour is much more likely to be a sort of Jeff Corwin experience for city folk than a real educational experience.

00:01:45.000 Look, Bill, what is that lady doing going into that building with the cross on top? 1.00

00:01:48.000 It's a Sunday!

00:01:49.000 Doesn't she know it's time for brunch at the local coffee house?

00:01:51.000 I mean, they serve avocado toast, and the avocado's from Whole Foods on Sundays.

00:01:56.000 Good luck, Huffington Post.

00:01:57.000 May God, well, Planned Parenthood be with you.

00:02:00.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:02:01.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:02:06.000 So, we'll get to all of the latest on Trump-Russia.

00:02:09.000 We'll also get to the latest on Trumpcare.

00:02:11.000 The Senate has now unveiled its new package.

00:02:13.000 The details are just starting to come out.

00:02:15.000 Some good stuff, some bad stuff.

00:02:16.000 We'll get to all of that.

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00:03:50.000 Okay, so I do want to jump into the latest on Trump-Russia and the latest hubbub, but there's an article that I think it is necessary to go through because it really struck me.

00:03:59.000 This is why the left loses.

00:04:00.000 The left thinks that if they hit Trump enough on Russia that the American people will just swivel around and hate Trump then.

00:04:19.000 And what they fail to acknowledge is the reason that people like Trump is because they hate the left.

00:04:23.000 The reason that Trump is almost completely a reactionary phenomenon. 1.00

00:04:26.000 It is the stupidity and the out-of-touchness of the left that has led to the rise of President Trump and these Republican rubes that the left so despises. 1.00

00:04:34.000 It's why Trump was really the apex of this. 1.00

00:04:36.000 I mean, the fact is that

00:04:37.000 Barack Obama lost 1,000 seats across the country in state legislatures.

00:04:40.000 He lost 12 governors.

00:04:42.000 He lost 10 senators.

00:04:42.000 I mean, Barack Obama devastated his party because the left took off its mask in the last eight years, and what people saw underneath was worse than Phantom of the Opera.

00:04:50.000 And so you can see this day in and day out when the left sort of reveals itself.

00:04:55.000 So today's example of this, it actually comes from Monday.

00:04:57.000 There's a column by a woman named Colleen Krajewski.

00:05:00.000 This was actually a column at the Washington Post.

00:05:03.000 And the title of it was, I used to be quiet about the fact that I perform abortions.

00:05:07.000 Now I'm upfront.

00:05:08.000 Okay, but the article is even crazier than this.

00:05:10.000 And this is the left bragging about what they do, right?

00:05:12.000 Like, when I brag about things that I do in daily life, you know, if I'm gonna brag about it, I'll tend to brag about, like, career achievements, or maybe I'll brag about something nice that I did in terms of giving charity.

00:05:22.000 Maybe I'll brag about, you know, the good things that I do with my wife and kids.

00:05:25.000 I don't typically associate I killed somebody else's baby as something you brag about, but not the same, I guess, if you are a leftist.

00:05:33.000 So, here is what Colleen Krajewski writes, and again, this is in the Washington Post on Monday, one of the nation's premier newspapers, right, quote,

00:05:42.000 I leaned back in a black leather chair as a man hovered over me.

00:05:45.000 For the first time in decades, the fate of Roe v. Wade seemed to be in real doubt.

00:05:49.000 Feeling a mix of anxiety, sadness, and resolve, I thought, I'm committed now.

00:05:52.000 Was she getting an abortion? 1.00

00:05:53.000 No, she was getting a tattoo!

00:05:54.000 The tattoo artist slowly etched on my right forearm a rather large coat hanger, the symbol of illegal abortions that cost unknown numbers of women their lives in the years before Roe, overlaid in bold lettering with the words, Never Again.

00:06:06.000 Now, as one of the Juden, let me say, I do not like the appropriation of the phrase never again to apply to regulations against the killing of unborn human beings.

00:06:17.000 This is sort of like...

00:06:20.000 It would be sort of like if the Nazis posted a picture of a hook-nosed Jew and then said, never again. 0.71

00:06:26.000 You're sort of missing the point of never again. 0.56

00:06:28.000 If never again, which the phrase used for the Holocaust is now used to refer to, never again will we be stopped from killing babies in the seventh month. 0.92

00:06:37.000 She continues.

00:06:39.000 From now on, unless I was in long sleeves, everyone I met would see my tattoo the moment we shook hands.

00:06:43.000 At the office, at parties, in the supermarket, on first dates. 0.90

00:06:45.000 Now, normally we'd say this person's a crazy person.

00:06:47.000 Like, this is not a great idea. 0.60

00:06:49.000 I'm a Republican.

00:06:50.000 I'm a conservative.

00:06:51.000 But I don't actually tattoo that on my arm.

00:06:53.000 Like, I don't have a picture of Ronald Reagan tattooed on my arm, because that would be weird, gang.

00:06:57.000 But she actually went and she got a picture of a hanger, a coat hanger, with the words Never Again tattooed on there.

00:07:04.000 Again, it could be slightly vague.

00:07:05.000 I mean, maybe...

00:07:06.000 Maybe never again means don't kill babies, but apparently it's virtue signaling for her leftist friends. 1.00

00:07:11.000 But that's not the worst part of this, that she got this stupid tattoo. 0.99

00:07:15.000 My favorite part of this article is that she goes on to talk about how abortion, her being an abortionist, has now enhanced her dating life. 0.99

00:07:22.000 Seriously, that's what this article is about, how her abortion has enhanced her dating life thanks to President Trump.

00:07:27.000 She says, embracing the symbol of the coat hanger meant also accepting myself as a symbol, which I had always resisted.

00:07:33.000 But as I shed the stigma of being an abortion provider, I felt free.

00:07:37.000 I was tired of playing games, and for the first time in my life I was ready for someone to love me because I provide abortions, not in spite of it. 0.62

00:07:45.000 Okay, with that tattoo I made some other changes.

00:07:47.000 No more batting my eyelashes on dates, feigning innocence, or acting apologetic about who I am.

00:07:52.000 No more waiting the requisite three days to call back, or counting down three dates to have sex if I wanted to.

00:07:58.000 She goes on and she says, an unexpected side effect of the 2016 election is that many people have become vocal about their support for reproductive rights.

00:08:05.000 Suddenly, dating an abortion provider can be cool! 0.91

00:08:07.000 A way to proclaim one's liberal street cred.

00:08:09.000 Yeah, I'm sure that's what guys are thinking. 0.95

00:08:11.000 I'm sure they're dating this girl and they go, you know what, she's so awesome, she kills babies. 1.00

00:08:16.000 Yeah, bring this one home to mother. 0.90

00:08:18.000 She's awesome. 0.83

00:08:20.000 Third trimester, second trimester, she doesn't care. 0.98

00:08:22.000 She'll do it, I mean.

00:08:23.000 Okay, let me just make a quick point.

00:08:26.000 I have a feeling, she links her own abortion tattoo to the fact that she will have sex before three dates. 1.00

00:08:32.000 I have a feeling that some of the people she is dating might have the same idea.

00:08:35.000 And these two things, maybe that's what guys are thinking.

00:08:39.000 Not, oh it's so awesome I'm dating a woman with an abortion tattoo, but 0.97

00:08:43.000 I'm dating a woman with an abortion tattoo, and maybe that means that she will be a little bit easier to get where I want her to go. 1.00

00:08:49.000 I saw this, by the way, at the 2012 DNC.

00:08:50.000 I went to the Democratic National Convention in 2012, and there were guys who were wearing around pins that said, I love pro-choice girls.

00:08:58.000 And I thought to myself, yeah, I...

00:09:01.000 Can see that?

00:09:01.000 Yeah?

00:09:02.000 That is not a shock.

00:09:03.000 Remember, this isn't at the salon.

00:09:04.000 It's not at Slate.

00:09:05.000 It's in the Washington Post.

00:09:18.000 Right, Democracy Dies in Darkness, Washington Post?

00:09:21.000 Like Woodward and Bernstein, Washington Post?

00:09:23.000 For him, my profession seemed to add to the edginess of dating an older woman.

00:09:28.000 There was the hard-partying Alaskan fisherman on an extended shore break who found my commitment to reproductive justice hot.

00:09:34.000 I'm gonna go with the Alaskan fisherman on the extended shore break did not find your commitment to reproductive justice hot.

00:09:40.000 He wanted to get in your pants, and so he told you that, lady. 0.99

00:09:43.000 And she says, so abortion providers are hot now?

00:09:46.000 As time goes on, I sometimes forget about the tattoo entirely.

00:09:49.000 Once, I wore long sleeves before becoming intimate with a fascinating biomedical engineer.

00:09:53.000 And when he first saw the tattoo, he burst out laughing, apparently delighted by my commitment to the cause.

00:09:58.000 Well, maybe that was your read.

00:10:00.000 Obviously, she's ended up in a long-term relationship.

00:10:02.000 She's gotten everything that she wants out of life.

00:10:04.000 I love that this is like Carrie Bradshaw talking about being an abortion provider. 0.75

00:10:07.000 It's just amazing.

00:10:20.000 Was it because I could be a liability to him in some future election, or was he just not over his ex?

00:10:24.000 Being more open about what I do has not led to perfect communication or the end of insecurity.

00:10:29.000 How she concludes this column is the whole thing.

00:10:31.000 First, she says, Recently, and I have to say, I love this column.

00:10:35.000 I think it's the greatest column that was ever written.

00:10:36.000 I think this ranks up there with, like, Cicero and with Plato.

00:10:40.000 I mean, this is just fantastic.

00:10:41.000 She says,

00:10:41.000 Recently, an online dating match messaged me and, without knowing my specialty, began lamenting the threat of SB3.

00:10:48.000 He's an attorney temporarily based in North Dakota where he's defending Standing Rock protesters.

00:10:52.000 Of course he is.

00:10:54.000 Our conversation about social justice led to such a strong connection that we ended up meeting despite the distance.

00:10:59.000 Wow, what a love story. 0.82

00:11:02.000 He defends Standing Rock protesters and you kill babies. 0.98

00:11:04.000 Just a match made in heaven.

00:11:06.000 She says, whatever happens, I will no longer be silent or fearful when a new love interest or anyone makes me feel exposed and vulnerable.

00:11:12.000 As my tattoo says, never again.

00:11:14.000 Okay, so now she's applied never again to killing babies and also telling guys who she wants to have sex with that she does that for a living. 1.00

00:11:23.000 Again, please do not hijack holocaust phrases to justify your crappy dating life. 0.98

00:11:29.000 You wonder why Trump wins? 0.93

00:11:30.000 This lady just won 100,000 votes for Trump in Wisconsin. 1.00

00:11:33.000 I think Donald Trump should actually have copies of this column printed out and handed out to everyone in the Midwest.

00:11:39.000 Well done, Washington Post.

00:11:40.000 So, this is why Trump isn't losing support.

00:11:42.000 Okay, Trump can't lose support because a lot of the people who support Trump are not going to move over to the side of Colleen Krajewski or whatever her name is.

00:11:49.000 They're not going to move over to that.

00:11:50.000 They're going to look at this and go, I don't want to be associated in any way with these crazy people. 0.86

00:11:55.000 And if Trump talked to some Russians, whatever, at least he doesn't have an abortion tattoo and then talk about his dating life. 0.93

00:12:01.000 Like, really.

00:12:02.000 It's amazing stuff from the left.

00:12:04.000 So well done, leftists.

00:12:05.000 You've done a wonderful job alienating every person of decent mind and heart in America.

00:12:09.000 Please continue to do so as fast as possible.

00:12:11.000 Okay.

00:12:12.000 Meanwhile, there's more fallout from the Donald Trump Jr.

00:12:16.000 Fredo Corleone spilling of the emails yesterday.

00:12:20.000 As you recall, Donald Trump Jr., a couple of days ago, he spilled emails that showed that he was approached by some nutty British promoter, and that nutty British promoter

00:12:30.000 is also the agent for a guy that Trump did business with in Russia, and he said, the Russian government really wants to help out your father, he says this Donald Trump Jr., and so we want you to meet with a Russian government lawyer who has some dirt on Hillary Clinton, and Trump Jr.'

00:12:44.000 's like, yeah!

00:12:45.000 Sounds awesome!

00:12:48.000 And so, first of all, CNN uncovered footage of Trump with Russians.

00:12:51.000 And I do love the media bias here because it is pretty stunning.

00:12:54.000 CNN uncovers this media.

00:12:56.000 I was watching CNN because it was on at the gym and there was nothing I could do about it.

00:13:00.000 And CNN was playing this footage over and over and over again like it was some sort of smoking gun.

00:13:04.000 This is from, I think, 2013, 2014, long before Trump was running for president.

00:13:11.000 The behind-the-scenes video, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows then-businessman Donald Trump in Las Vegas in 2013, at several events during the weekend of the Miss USA pageant, hanging out with the men now at the center of the newest development in the Russia controversy.

00:13:29.000 The men, Russian pop singer Amin Agalarov and his father Aras, a real estate developer in Russia, were helping Trump hold his Miss Universe pageant in Moscow later that year.

00:13:40.000 This is the most powerful people in all of Russia.

00:13:43.000 The richest men in Russia.

00:13:45.000 In the video, Trump is seen having dinner with the Agalarovs, along with their publicist, Rob Goldstone, seen here leaning over to talk with Trump.

00:13:53.000 Right, so there's that boy, Rob Goldstone.

00:13:57.000 That's Les Grossman from, as I say, from Tropic Thunder.

00:14:00.000 And then CNN thinks, oh, we got him now.

00:14:02.000 We have tape.

00:14:03.000 Okay, first of all, we knew that Trump knew all these people.

00:14:05.000 Why is this a shock in any way?

00:14:06.000 Ooh, he had dinner.

00:14:08.000 Okay, well, Barack Obama used to, like, hang out with Bill Ayers, and CNN spent years pretending that didn't matter, so why in the world would it matter that Trump knew these people?

00:14:15.000 Of course Trump knew these people!

00:14:16.000 How do you think they had Trump Jr.'

00:14:18.000 's email address? 0.91

00:14:19.000 It's just silly. 1.00

00:14:20.000 Okay, so, Trump responds, the Trump team responds, and as always, they respond in perhaps the dumbest possible way. 0.99

00:14:26.000 So Kellyanne Conway leads the way, and

00:14:31.000 I understand that everything is so polarized right now that Kellyanne Conway could basically go on Fox News and do some arm farting and everybody would just say that it was brilliant in Trump land and she could do that and then she could do this a couple of times and all of CNN would claim that this was in fact secret Morse code to the Russians that we need more of their help in the next election cycle. 0.70

00:14:49.000 Arm farting is policy. 0.51

00:14:51.000 But here is Kellyanne Conway doing what, like, this is not real life, folks.

00:14:56.000 This cannot be real life.

00:14:57.000 Here she was with Sean Hannity.

00:14:59.000 This actually happened.

00:15:01.000 This was a thing.

00:15:02.000 This is how I see it so far.

00:15:03.000 This is to help all the people at home.

00:15:05.000 What's the conclusion?

00:15:07.000 Collusion?

00:15:08.000 No.

00:15:08.000 We don't have that yet.

00:15:10.000 I see illusion and delusion.

00:15:13.000 So just so we're clear, everyone, four words.

00:15:15.000 Conclusion?

00:15:16.000 Collusion?

00:15:17.000 No.

00:15:18.000 Illusion?

00:15:18.000 Delusion?

00:15:19.000 Yes.

00:15:19.000 I just thought we'd have some fun with words.

00:15:21.000 Sesame's Grover Word of the Day, perhaps, Sean.

00:15:24.000 As Seth Mandel over at New York Post said, I think that the Trump administration has had enough fun with words for one week.

00:15:28.000 But this is... First of all, confusion.

00:15:32.000 Okay, how about that one?

00:15:34.000 Confusion.

00:15:35.000 How about some decency exclusion?

00:15:39.000 This is all insane.

00:15:40.000 The profusion!

00:15:42.000 Ah, it's giving me a contusion. 0.96

00:15:44.000 It's just ridiculous.

00:15:46.000 First of all, I do love the fact that when she does this and she's holding it up, she had to physically cross out collusion. 0.57

00:15:51.000 She didn't actually just make a collusion with a strikethrough through it, which is available on Word.

00:15:56.000 They actually had to have her physically strike it out and then cross it out. 1.00

00:15:59.000 How dumb does she think voters are? 1.00

00:16:01.000 I mean, I guess pretty dumb. 1.00

00:16:03.000 You actually have to show up, you say collusion, conclusion, illusion. 0.99

00:16:07.000 Delusion.

00:16:08.000 Exclusion.

00:16:09.000 Profusion.

00:16:10.000 Contusion.

00:16:11.000 McFusion.

00:16:12.000 Nuclear fusion.

00:16:15.000 Okay.

00:16:16.000 Alright.

00:16:17.000 Okay, like, how about an actual defense?

00:16:19.000 Here's the defense, okay?

00:16:20.000 Donald Trump Jr.

00:16:21.000 allegedly tried to collude with the Russians to do bad stuff.

00:16:23.000 Nothing came of it.

00:16:24.000 So it was attempted collusion at best.

00:16:26.000 It shows motive, but it doesn't show means or opportunity, as I've been saying for two straight days now.

00:16:30.000 And the media have been trying to say this was the beginning of a nefarious collusion.

00:16:33.000 Again, one of the things that I don't understand is what exactly would that collusion constitute?

00:16:37.000 Okay, let's actually say for a second that Donald Trump Jr.

00:16:40.000 had somehow gotten together with the Russians.

00:16:41.000 What would that constitute?

00:16:43.000 Remember, the Trump administration, the Trump campaign, did not drop any new material about Hillary Clinton.

00:16:49.000 They didn't drop anything.

00:16:50.000 So I guess the collusion would have been something like Wikileaks and the Russians go to Trump and they say, in two days we're dropping a new stash of emails.

00:16:58.000 But that's not how it worked.

00:17:00.000 I mean if anyone actually thinks back to the campaign, this is not how it worked.

00:17:02.000 So unless Trump was providing the Russians with material to go out and spill, or unless the Russians were providing Trump with heads up, that's not how it worked.

00:17:09.000 Because as I recall, I mean I was there the entire election cycle and so were you, as I recall there would be a dump of Wikileaks.

00:17:15.000 And Wikileaks was obviously dumping because they didn't like Hillary Clinton, but that doesn't mean that Trump was behind it.

00:17:20.000 And then, there'd be people like me who would sip through the Wikileaks.

00:17:23.000 I mean, thousands of pages of Wikileaks trying to find the most damning portions.

00:17:27.000 This is exactly what happened during the election cycle.

00:17:30.000 I'm still confused as to what collusion would actually look like.

00:17:34.000 All of these would be good defensive points.

00:17:36.000 Going on TV and rhyming like Grover from Sesame Street on Sean Hannity's show is not an actually good defense.

00:17:42.000 Turns out it's not a great deal, but none of this matters.

00:17:44.000 I mean, none of it matters because people are stuck in their lanes.

00:17:46.000 So Trump goes on with Pat Robertson yesterday, providing certainly a contrast in visuals.

00:17:52.000 And he says that the weird thing about all of this is, like, everybody keeps saying that Putin wanted me, but Putin would rather have had Hillary.

00:18:00.000 As an example, if Hillary had won, our military would be decimated. 1.00

00:18:06.000 Our energy would be much more expensive.

00:18:09.000 That's what Putin doesn't like about me.

00:18:12.000 And that's why I say, why would he want me?

00:18:13.000 Because from day one, I wanted a strong military.

00:18:15.000 He doesn't want to see that.

00:18:17.000 We're going to be self-supporting.

00:18:19.000 We just about are now.

00:18:20.000 We're going to be exporting energy.

00:18:22.000 He doesn't want that.

00:18:24.000 He would like Hillary where she wants to have windmills. 1.00

00:18:28.000 He would much rather have that because energy prices will go up and Russia, as you know, relies very much on energy.

00:18:33.000 So there are many things that I do that are the exact opposite of what he would want.

00:18:38.000 So when I keep hearing about that he would have rather had Trump, I think probably not because

00:18:44.000 When I want a strong military, you know she wouldn't have spent the money on the military, but when I want a strong military, when I want tremendous energy, we're opening up coal, we're opening up natural gas, we're opening up fracking, all the things that he would hate, but nobody ever mentions that.

00:19:00.000 Okay, so what Trump is saying here is actually right, which is that Trump's policies have not been particularly pro-Russia.

00:19:06.000 I mean, aside from some sanctions talk, there really is a bit, like Trump's, again, Trump's White House is very weird because Trump says stuff and then his administration does stuff, and the stuff that he says and the stuff that his administration does are two separate things.

00:19:16.000 So his administration is pursuing some pretty vehement anti-Russian measures on certain things.

00:19:21.000 Uh, Trump himself will say very warm things toward Russia.

00:19:24.000 I don't buy his argument that Russia wanted Hillary and not Trump in the last election cycle, because there's not a lot of evidence to that effect.

00:19:30.000 And in fact, that email from Rob Goldstone specifically says, the Russian government wants to help you and your campaign.

00:19:37.000 And Russia has been very warm toward Trump for years.

00:19:39.000 I mean, predating this election cycle.

00:19:41.000 He is correct to say, you know, when you say that I'm in collusion with Russia, so where's the pro quo?

00:19:45.000 If you're saying there was some sort of quid, like they did me a favor, where's the pro quo?

00:19:49.000 What am I doing for them that's a favor?

00:19:51.000 And the answer is, not much aside from some of Trump's rhetoric.

00:19:53.000 Like, this is an actual fair point.

00:19:55.000 Okay, well...

00:19:56.000 With all of that said, you know, I do want to get to other things that Trump is doing, and I want to get to the Democrats, of course, doing what they do best, which is making everyone hate them.

00:20:04.000 We'll get to all of that in just a second, but first, I want to say thank you to our sponsors over at Birch Gold.

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00:21:08.000 Naturally, the Democrats are completely incapable of stopping themselves.

00:21:13.000 And it's funny, there's a little bit of a battle that's breaking out among the Democrats.

00:21:16.000 There are Democrats who are positioning for a presidential run in 2020 who are trying to say, let's not talk about Russia.

00:21:22.000 And then you've got the people in Congress who are saying, let's talk about Russia nonstop.

00:21:25.000 The reason is because of immediacy.

00:21:26.000 That's the actual gap.

00:21:27.000 They don't disagree with one another.

00:21:28.000 So Brad Sherman yesterday, who is my congressperson,

00:21:32.000 Yes, really. 1.00

00:21:33.000 California, you suck so much. 1.00

00:21:36.000 You suck California. 1.00

00:21:39.000 Anyway, so Brad Sherman, he actually made a proposal that Trump should be impeached and he introduced a bill on the floor of the House, a bill of impeachment against Trump on the floor of the House. 0.99

00:21:50.000 Yeah, good luck with that.

00:21:52.000 Why are you doing this?

00:21:53.000 Of course he's not going to be impeached in this congressional term, knowing what we know now.

00:21:57.000 So what would be the point of doing this?

00:21:59.000 Well, it can have either of two effects.

00:22:02.000 The hope is that it triggers an intervention in the White House, and this is a faint hope.

00:22:09.000 That his staff is finally able to say, now it's real articles, and for that and for so many other reasons, Mr. President, you've got to stop announcing reversals in foreign policy at 4 in the morning and 140 characters.

00:22:22.000 You've got to stop making foreign policy in complete ignorance of the facts.

00:22:28.000 Wait, so you're impeaching him so he'll stop tweeting?

00:22:31.000 My hope is that we end incompetent, impulsive government.

00:22:37.000 Okay, yeah, good luck with that.

00:22:39.000 All this is, of course, is PR, and the Democrats know it.

00:22:42.000 Then you have the ones who are running for president, like Gavin Newsom.

00:22:44.000 He's going to run for governor in California, and then he's going to run for president.

00:22:47.000 He says that we should all stop talking about Russia, because let's focus on the issues.

00:22:50.000 You can tell the difference between the guys running for the presidency and the guys who are running for Congress, because the Democrats think they're going to win Congress in 2018 on the Russia stuff.

00:22:58.000 Democrats know that in order to win the presidency, they're going to have to do more than just talk about Russia.

00:23:02.000 So here's Gavin Newsom.

00:23:04.000 Obviously the media is obsessed for good reason with the Russia story.

00:23:10.000 Prosecutors, thank you.

00:23:12.000 That's where I'm talking.

00:23:13.000 Could you explain to Democrats out there and your base how talking about Russia on the campaign trail is not going to get you back in power?

00:23:22.000 And I don't know what more evidence you need.

00:23:24.000 I mean, at the end of the day, even if you gain this thing out, you get rid of Trump.

00:23:29.000 You're left with a guy who's, you know, who's out there talking about conversion therapy.

00:23:33.000 Don't do anything for the Democratic Party and our agenda.

00:23:35.000 So unless we deal with the issues of economic anxiety, cultural issues in a substantive way, and we get in the how business and we actually demonstrate with some acuity and strength a clear conviction in terms of the fate and future of this country, then we're never going to take back.

00:23:50.000 Oh, that makes sense.

00:23:52.000 Okay, so Gavin Newsom obviously positioning himself for president.

00:23:54.000 Is that going to work for him?

00:23:56.000 I don't think so.

00:23:56.000 Gavin Newsom is any other Democrat, he just likes to say iPhone a lot.

00:24:00.000 Like really, this is his shtick.

00:24:01.000 I live in California, he's the lieutenant governor here.

00:24:03.000 He basically goes around and he says, all the Democratic policies except on an iPhone.

00:24:09.000 And then everyone goes, ooh, he's tech savvy. 1.00

00:24:12.000 It's all stupidity. 0.99

00:24:13.000 Okay, so as we continue here on the Ben Shapiro Show, I want to talk about what's going on with Trumpcare. 0.99

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00:25:59.000 Alrighty, so in actual substantive news, away from Trump-Russia, Trumpcare is moving forward, sort of.

00:26:04.000 So today Mitch McConnell has now revealed his bare-bones plan for the Senate bill.

00:26:08.000 It's difficult in the Senate because you've got conservatives like Ted Cruz and Mike Lee and Rand Paul on the one side, and on the other side you have Susan Collins, who basically would like to double down on Obamacare. 0.54

00:26:17.000 And so trying to cobble together 51 votes is sort of difficult.

00:26:19.000 Republicans can only lose two.

00:26:22.000 They can lose two, they can have 50 votes, and Pence is the tiebreaker.

00:26:25.000 But if they lose three, it's over.

00:26:26.000 There's not a lot of votes that you can afford to lose if you actually want to pass some sort of change to Obamacare.

00:26:32.000 So Trump is out there, of course, saying he wants Trumpcare passed.

00:26:35.000 Now, one of the problems here is that Trump has been absent from the campaign trail for three days.

00:26:39.000 He's now in France, which is not going to do Trumpcare any good.

00:26:42.000 If he actually wanted to pass this thing, it would be useful for him to

00:26:46.000 Maybe go out on the campaign trail and stump for it and discuss the details and talk about why it's good.

00:26:50.000 But instead you sort of get these generic comments about why he wants Trumpcare passed, but Trump doesn't know what the hell is in it, obviously.

00:26:57.000 Number one, repeal and replace.

00:26:59.000 I am sitting in the Oval Office with a pen in hand waiting for our senators to give it to me.

00:27:06.000 Now we have a president that's waiting to sign it.

00:27:11.000 I have pen in hand.

00:27:12.000 So now it means something.

00:27:14.000 What'll happen if they don't?

00:27:16.000 Well, I don't even want to talk about it, because I think it would be very bad.

00:27:18.000 I will be very angry about it, and a lot of people will be very upset.

00:27:24.000 But I'm sitting, waiting for that bill to come to my desk.

00:27:26.000 I hope that they do it.

00:27:28.000 They've been promising it for years.

00:27:30.000 They've been promising it ever since Obamacare, which has failed.

00:27:33.000 It's a failed experiment.

00:27:35.000 It is totally gone.

00:27:36.000 It's out of business.

00:27:38.000 And we have to get this done.

00:27:41.000 Repeal and replace.

00:27:42.000 Okay, so he's just saying slogans now.

00:27:44.000 This is going to have no impact on Congress, because the problem is, you know that even if you pass something, if it starts to go bad, Trump is then going to turn on you and blame you, right?

00:27:51.000 He did this with the House.

00:27:52.000 They passed a bill, and then he promptly turned around and crapped all over the bill by calling it mean, mean, mean.

00:27:56.000 So Trump doesn't have a lot of weight here.

00:27:58.000 So what does this new Obamacare replacement bill actually look like?

00:28:02.000 There are two, there are several major problems with the Obamacare replacement bill.

00:28:05.000 In some ways it got better, in some ways it actually got worse.

00:28:07.000 So, they restored a bunch of the taxes that they'd cut in the original Senate bill in the bizarre hope that somehow this will lead Democrats to now think that they don't have to attack them for, their slogan has been that they are cutting healthcare for poor people from Medicaid in order to subsidize tax cuts for the wealthy, right?

00:28:24.000 This is the way that the left puts it.

00:28:26.000 So the Republicans cut a lot of the tax cuts for the wealthy, but they left

00:28:29.000 A couple.

00:28:30.000 They left some.

00:28:30.000 And that means the Democrats are going to say the exact same thing.

00:28:32.000 So you really have not won anything, have you now?

00:28:35.000 They also have said Mitch McConnell is apparently encouraging people, he's telling moderates to support the health care bill, including the Medicaid cuts, because, quote, they will never go into effect anyway.

00:28:46.000 Okay, so in other words, the entire selling point, the Paul Ryan selling point that we're going to restructure Medicaid, it doesn't even apply according to Mitch McConnell.

00:28:52.000 So basically they're lying to all of you, and Mitch McConnell is telling the moderates they're lying to all of you.

00:28:56.000 So even the main thrust of the bill, which was to cut Medicaid expansion, it's not even cutting Medicaid, it's cutting Medicaid's expansion in the future.

00:29:03.000 Even the main thrust of it, McConnell saying it's never going to go into place, which means that you're basically keeping Obamacare in place.

00:29:08.000 The other major provision that changes is Ted Cruz and Mike Lee had proposed an amendment.

00:29:13.000 The amendment would have said that if you are in an Obamacare state and has an Obamacare exchange, you're still subject to Obamacare regulations on pre-existing conditions and essential benefit services and all the like.

00:29:24.000 But, if you offer one of those plans in the healthcare exchange, then you can offer other plans outside the healthcare exchange.

00:29:31.000 So, the reason that matters is because if it's inside the healthcare exchange, it still has to provide certain benefits, it has to be subsidized by the government, you're grouped together with other people in terms of community rating.

00:29:41.000 So, the way that...

00:29:42.000 Cruz and Lee were thinking about it was, okay, here's what we should do.

00:29:45.000 We'll still have the Obamacare pool. 0.83

00:29:46.000 Those will be basically high-risk pools and we'll subsidize them and we'll toss money into it.

00:29:50.000 And then all the healthy people, they can opt out and buy cheaper insurance.

00:29:53.000 So everyone will get insurance.

00:29:54.000 The people who are unhealthy will get subsidized by the government to be in the Obamacare exchange.

00:29:58.000 The people who are healthy will go back to having a free market system where they don't have to buy insurance they don't want to buy.

00:30:05.000 McConnell comes back with a version of this, but the version of it that he proposes doesn't make any sense.

00:30:09.000 Instead of separating out these other plans, these low-cost plans, it throws them into the Obamacare exchange as well, which means they're still subject to the Obamacare regulations, and it means that the rates on those low-cost plans are actually going to go up, because if they're all in the pool together, that means that they're going to have to pay for the unhealthy people.

00:30:26.000 So you end up back with Obamacare.

00:30:27.000 So basically it's backdoor Obamacare.

00:30:29.000 Again, Rand Paul, rightly so, is excoriating the bill.

00:30:32.000 Even yesterday he was.

00:30:33.000 He has a piece over at Breitbart where he says, I miss the old days when Republicans stood for repealing Obamacare.

00:30:38.000 He says, now too many Republicans are falling all over themselves to stuff hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars into a bill that doesn't repeal Obamacare and feeds big insurance a huge bailout, right?

00:30:47.000 This is all the subsidies for these high-risk pools.

00:30:50.000 Is Obamacare regulation still here?

00:30:51.000 Taxes?

00:30:52.000 Many still in place, totaling hundreds of billions of dollars.

00:30:55.000 Insurance company bailouts?

00:30:56.000 Those too.

00:30:56.000 Remember when Republicans complained about Obamacare's risk corridors?

00:30:59.000 Remember when we called corridors nothing more than insurance company bailouts?

00:31:02.000 I remember when one prominent GOP candidate during a presidential debate explicitly called out Obamacare risk corridors as a bailout to insurance companies.

00:31:09.000 Does anyone else?

00:31:10.000 Now the GOP plan being put out forward is chock full of insurance bailout money to the tune of nearly $200 billion.

00:31:16.000 Republicans, present company excluded, now support the idea of lowering your insurance premium by giving a subsidy to the insurance company.

00:31:24.000 If the GOP now supports an insurance stabilization fund to lower insurance prices, maybe they should support a new car stabilization fund to lower the price of cars.

00:31:31.000 Or maybe the GOP would support an iPhone stabilization fund to lower the price of phones.

00:31:35.000 The possibilities are limitless.

00:31:36.000 Rand Paul is right here.

00:31:37.000 Listen, this was always a foregone conclusion.

00:31:40.000 As soon as they said repeal and replace, and as soon as it was clear that Donald Trump was never going to stand for a straight repeal, it was pretty obvious that this was moving in the wrong direction.

00:31:51.000 It's not a... it is just not a...

00:31:54.000 It's still not a useful bill.

00:31:56.000 It's still not a useful bill. 0.90

00:31:57.000 They're going to do their best to try and pass off this crap sandwich as something good, as an advance.

00:32:02.000 But as we say, even the parts that advance, even the parts that I supported of this bill, like the Medicaid, the Medicaid cutbacks, even those restructuring, even those are now being cut according to McConnell. 0.90

00:32:12.000 It's all just in name only to get something through.

00:32:14.000 So well done, Republicans.

00:32:15.000 Once again, you have somehow, you have somehow achieved failure out of what could have been victory.

00:32:21.000 What is a victory is on the Hill,

00:32:23.000 President Obama has an FBI director nominee named Christopher Wray.

00:32:31.000 Christopher Wray was questioned on the Hill yesterday and he was basically asked by Congress, are you going to be independent from the President of the United States or are you going to be a lackey?

00:32:39.000 And here's what he had to say about being a lackey.

00:32:40.000 Call me.

00:32:41.000 Did you see the press conference they gave about the Hillary Clinton investigation in July of last year?

00:32:47.000 Not live, but yes.

00:32:49.000 Would you have done that?

00:32:52.000 Well, Senator, there is an Inspector General investigation into Director Combs' conduct.

00:32:55.000 I'm not asking about the investigation.

00:32:58.000 I'm asking about you.

00:33:00.000 Would you have done that?

00:33:01.000 I can tell you that in my experience as a prosecutor and as head of the criminal division, I understand there to be department policies that govern public comments charged to individuals.

00:33:13.000 I think those policies are there for a reason.

00:33:15.000 I think they're important and I would follow those policies.

00:33:17.000 He talked about somebody that was never charged in a despairing fashion.

00:33:22.000 Do you agree with that?

00:33:25.000 That's the way I understood his comments.

00:33:26.000 Do you also agree that he took over the prosecutor's job by saying there's no case here?

00:33:32.000 Well, Senator, again, there's an Inspector General investigation into his conduct.

00:33:37.000 You would not have done either one of those, is what you're telling this committee.

00:33:40.000 At least, I hope that's what you're telling this committee.

00:33:42.000 I can't imagine a situation where, as FBI Director, I would be giving a press conference on an uncharged individual, much less talk in detail about it.

00:33:51.000 Okay, so, you know, this is of course the correct answer, that he's not going to be like James Comey, and then he was also asked about Bob Mueller, because President Trump has suggested that the special prosecutor, special counsel, that he's on a witch hunt against the Trump family, and here was Ray's response.

00:34:06.000 You say that Mueller's a good guy, right?

00:34:09.000 That's been my experience, yes.

00:34:10.000 And you will do anything necessary to protect him from being interfered with when it comes to doing his job?

00:34:18.000 Absolutely, I think he's a- Do you believe that, in light of the Don Jr.

00:34:22.000 email and other allegations, that this whole thing about Trump campaigning Russia is a witch hunt?

00:34:28.000 Is that a fair description of what we're all dealing with in America?

00:34:33.000 Well, Senator, I can't speak to the basis for those comments.

00:34:35.000 I can tell you that my experience with Director Mueller- I'm asking you, as the future FBI director, do you consider this endeavor a witch hunt?

00:34:43.000 I do not consider Director Mueller to be on a witch hunt.

00:34:46.000 Okay, so that is the correct answer.

00:34:48.000 Wray will be confirmed.

00:34:49.000 He should be confirmed.

00:34:49.000 A bunch of Democrats trying to hold him up just because they're angry at Trump and they want to talk about Russia a lot, but Wray will be confirmed.

00:34:55.000 He is a good pick by President Trump.

00:34:57.000 The question is, will Trump allow him to do his job, or will Trump interfere and get angry at him the way he has at Bob Mueller or Reince Priebus or Steve Bannon or Jared Kushner or every single other person he has ever appointed to his administration?

00:35:09.000 So, we'll find out, but Christopher Wray will be a fine pick for FBI, and he did a good job in his hearings yesterday.

00:35:16.000 Okay, so I want to get to some things I like, things I hate, and Big Idea.

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00:37:31.000 Okay, time for some things that I like and some things that I hate.

00:37:34.000 So, things that I like.

00:37:35.000 We've been doing movies about sons who have disappointed their fathers this week.

00:37:39.000 We've been doing all sorts of material on that.

00:37:41.000 We did East of Eden.

00:37:43.000 We've done a bunch of different... We did Arrested Development.

00:37:47.000 We did Pete Rose.

00:37:48.000 Today, it's In the Name of the Father.

00:37:50.000 So, one of the great tragedies of this year that has yet to be remarked upon is Daniel Day-Lewis says that he's retiring from acting.

00:37:56.000 Which is just horrifying.

00:37:57.000 He has to... I mean, Mathis says that he is lying.

00:37:59.000 We can only hope that Mathis is correct, because Daniel Day-Lewis is the greatest living actor.

00:38:05.000 He is just phenomenal in every part that he has ever played. 0.56

00:38:08.000 His versatility is ridiculous.

00:38:11.000 The only other person, I think, who is even in his league at this point might be Christian Bale.

00:38:16.000 But even there, I think that it's A plus versus A. Daniel Day-Lewis is just phenomenal at everything.

00:38:21.000 One of his earliest films, I think he

00:38:22.000 He won an Oscar for this.

00:38:24.000 Did he win an Oscar for this?

00:38:25.000 He won for My Left Foot.

00:38:26.000 I'm not sure if he won for In the Name of the Father.

00:38:28.000 But the movie In the Name of the Father is a really good film, great acting.

00:38:32.000 It's about the Guildford Four.

00:38:33.000 This is a group of people who are convicted of terrorism.

00:38:37.000 They apparently confessed under duress.

00:38:39.000 They were convicted of terrorism in an IRA bombing in the 1970s.

00:38:42.000 And Daniel Day-Lewis plays one of the Guildford Four, and his father is arrested.

00:38:46.000 Basically because he just gets dragged into this because his son is a ne'er-do-well.

00:38:50.000 And the entire movie is about him trying to live up to his father's memory because his father dies in prison.

00:38:55.000 Great movie.

00:38:57.000 Is it Pete Postlewaite who plays his dad?

00:38:59.000 I'm trying to remember who plays his father.

00:39:01.000 But great performances all around.

00:39:03.000 Here's a little bit of the preview.

00:39:06.000 It was a time of innocence.

00:39:08.000 No property, no law, just love.

00:39:11.000 What should we call you?

00:39:15.000 Call me whatever you want.

00:39:23.000 In the wake of the Ilford Pub bombing deaths, the government has responded with emergency legislation and increased police powers of search and arrest.

00:39:30.000 Get him up! 0.74

00:39:34.000 Have you a right to speak to me, son?

00:39:36.000 You are in trouble, Conlon.

00:39:37.000 What are you charging me with?

00:39:38.000 The murders of five people.

00:39:40.000 You're gonna be mine!

00:39:41.000 I taught you how to make the bone, Jerry.

00:39:45.000 I didn't do this.

00:39:46.000 What are you trying to do to me?

00:39:53.000 What's he doing in there?

00:39:54.000 Conspiracy to murder.

00:39:55.000 Their arrest was only the beginning.

00:39:58.000 My name's Giuseppe Conner.

00:39:59.000 I'm an innocent non-socialist son... ...of a remarkable journey.

00:40:04.000 All of the defendants claim that they was objected to physical and mental abuse while under police custody.

00:40:09.000 We're never harmed in any way.

00:40:12.000 The entire film is basically about his relationship with his father because his father gets dragged into this and his father's an honorable man and he really isn't at the beginning of the film.

00:40:19.000 It's about how he learns to live up to his father's standards.

00:40:21.000 In the Name of the Father is the name of the film.

00:40:23.000 Very, very good movie.

00:40:24.000 Okay.

00:40:25.000 Other things that I like.

00:40:25.000 So Bernie Sanders says he wants to run again, which is great.

00:40:29.000 I could not be more excited about this.

00:40:30.000 He's asked about will he run again in 2020 at the age of 1,293.

00:40:33.000 And they're already apparently raising money for Pudding Cups.

00:40:38.000 So here is Bernie Sanders talking about it.

00:40:40.000 Are you leaving 2020 on the table, or are you taking it off the table?

00:40:43.000 No, I'm not taking it off the table.

00:40:45.000 I just have not made any decisions, and I think it's much too early.

00:40:48.000 That means that he's going to run.

00:40:49.000 That means he's going to run, right?

00:40:51.000 Whenever someone says, I'm not taking it off the table, that means that he's going to run, or in Bernie Sanders' case, hobble.

00:40:56.000 So that'll be great.

00:40:58.000 I'm mostly excited about it so that I can continue to do my Bernie Sanders impression forever.

00:41:03.000 For years and years, and I hope that long after he passes, when he is 120 years old, when he passes, that they wheel his corpse around and he continues to run so I can continue to talk about vacation homes and pudding cups as he so richly deserves as a crazy socialist who has two vacation homes and a thousand pudding cups.

00:41:21.000 So that's exciting.

00:41:22.000 Okay, time for some things that I hate.

00:41:29.000 Okay, so I saw this video on Twitter this morning.

00:41:32.000 I couldn't really believe that it was real.

00:41:33.000 There's some group out there that is making the case that women should be paid more than men.

00:41:37.000 Why?

00:41:38.000 Because it costs more to be a woman than it costs to be a man. 0.97

00:41:40.000 Because you have things like shoes you have to buy.

00:41:42.000 This is perhaps the worst commercial for closing the pay gap in the history of humanity.

00:41:48.000 Listen up.

00:41:49.000 There's still not equal pay for equal work anywhere in the world.

00:41:51.000 And it seems most women are not even angry about it. 0.73

00:42:17.000 There's a woman who's kicking a mug at her boss there. 1.00

00:42:34.000 Our underwear is ridiculously more expensive.

00:42:38.000 It's simply more expensive to be a woman than to be a man.

00:42:43.000 Should we seriously get paid less than someone who applies body lotion to his face?

00:42:48.000 He doesn't need a new outfit for every new occasion.

00:42:52.000 He doesn't even know that the shoes make the outfit.

00:42:56.000 This is real, guys.

00:42:57.000 This is not a parody.

00:42:58.000 Oh, that's magnificent.

00:43:14.000 Okay, and then a woman throws her high-heeled shoe at a window and shatters the window. 1.00

00:43:18.000 And the woman jumps on the hood of the car and ruins the hood of the car. 1.00

00:43:22.000 And a woman kicks the mug into her boss's face and it breaks. 0.98

00:43:25.000 Must be the weakest mug of all time, by the way.

00:43:27.000 And then she's just screaming at her boss. 0.99

00:43:30.000 And then it shows a high-heeled shoe and it says, hashtag women need more. 0.64

00:43:34.000 Bianco. 0.97

00:43:35.000 I don't know what Bianco is, but that is legitimately the worst ad for female empowerment I have ever seen in my entire life, because if the case is that you're going to whine about the cost of your underwear so I should pay you more, and then you're gonna break my crap because of it, you are fired, okay? 0.97

00:43:48.000 You're not gonna raise, you get fired. 0.98

00:43:51.000 Assault.

00:43:51.000 Hitting people with bugs.

00:43:53.000 Bad things, folks.

00:43:54.000 You don't get to do this.

00:43:56.000 Women should be paid more because their underwear costs more. 1.00

00:43:58.000 I mean, what the hell? 0.97

00:43:59.000 Should I be paid more because my Jewish rituals cost more? 0.95

00:44:02.000 They do, okay?

00:44:02.000 Passover's super expensive.

00:44:03.000 Should I get paid more because I'm a Jew? 0.96

00:44:05.000 What absolute utter horse nonsense. 0.99

00:44:08.000 Okay, other things that I hate. 0.98

00:44:09.000 Linda Sarsour.

00:44:10.000 Has now said that she's taking names, gang. 0.51

00:44:13.000 She's taking names. 0.99

00:44:13.000 She says, I just know that I'm taking names of those who have lied about me to defame my character. 0.99

00:44:18.000 I may be quiet now, but not for long.

00:44:20.000 I am working.

00:44:24.000 Be scared of Linda Sarsour, okay?

00:44:26.000 I'm honestly more scared of Linda Sarsour's friends, like, you know, Rasmia Oda, like actual terrorists.

00:44:30.000 Then I'm scared of Linda Sarsour.

00:44:32.000 I understand that the left likes to use lawfare.

00:44:34.000 I've been a victim of this.

00:44:35.000 That was what happened with Clock Boy.

00:44:36.000 But the Anti-Islamophobia Scam Brigade is up in arms.

00:44:40.000 Linda Sarsour is very angry because people are pointing out things that she said and she doesn't like it when people point out things that she said. 1.00

00:44:46.000 Pretty, pretty amazing.

00:44:48.000 So, Linda Sarsour, yeah, okay, fine.

00:44:51.000 She's like evil Santa Claus, checking her, making a list and checking it twice.

00:44:55.000 Okay, other things that I hate.

00:44:56.000 Riley Dennis is a prominent transgender person on Twitter, and Riley Dennis is a, he, because he is a man, is 0.99

00:45:09.000 He is saying that his argument, this is a direct quote, quote, my argument, maybe your preference for women with vaginas over women with penises is to some degree influenced by our cissexist society. 0.97

00:45:20.000 So Riley Dennis, who is a man with a penis, I believe, I don't know about the surgical status, Riley Dennis, I'm fairly certain on this, and believes he is a woman, he says that your desire not to have sex with a man because he's a man is because you are cisgender, not because 0.99

00:45:38.000 Of things like science, right? 0.99

00:45:40.000 He says it's because the reason that you as a straight man only want to have sex with women, you know, like actual women with vaginas and chromosomes and such, the only reason you'd want to do that is because of sexism in society. 0.99

00:45:53.000 There's another reason. 0.99

00:45:54.000 It is called evolution.

00:45:56.000 Okay, it's called procreation. 0.78

00:45:58.000 Like, God made things this way.

00:45:59.000 Nature—you don't even have to be atheist to believe this. 0.95

00:46:02.000 Nature made things that men who want to have sex with women want to have sex with women who actually have the body parts that produce children, because that is what nature desires. 0.99

00:46:11.000 Full insanity. 0.97

00:46:12.000 Okay, final thing.

00:46:13.000 So, usually we do Big Ideas on Thursday.

00:46:16.000 I can do this in about a minute thirty, so we'll do Big Ideas here on The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:46:22.000 This is where I take an idea that I think has been under-discussed and we talk about it so that you know more about it.

00:46:26.000 So, due process of law.

00:46:27.000 So there's been a lot of talk about whether Donald Trump Jr.

00:46:29.000 broke the law this week, as though Donald Trump Jr.

00:46:34.000 Collusion is a crime.

00:46:35.000 And I keep saying, no, collusion is not a crime.

00:46:37.000 You actually have to cite me the statute.

00:46:38.000 And people on the left go, that's a crime.

00:46:40.000 It's bad.

00:46:40.000 Bad means it's a crime.

00:46:41.000 No, bad does not mean it's a crime.

00:46:43.000 Due process of law means there must be a law on the books that you have violated, and now we take you to trial, and then you get a lawyer, and then we decide whether you are guilty or innocent.

00:46:51.000 That's what due process of law means.

00:46:53.000 It's under the Fifth Amendment and the Fourteenth Amendment.

00:46:55.000 Now, the left is so bizarre that they believe there should be no due process of law for people like Donald... 0.99

00:46:59.000 Trump Jr., but they also believe in this concept, this idiotic concept called substantive due process. 0.97

00:47:05.000 Substantive due process is a Supreme Court term that is self-contradictory. 0.98

00:47:08.000 Process and substance are opposites, okay?

00:47:11.000 It's like saying, it's like saying red sky blue, okay?

00:47:14.000 That's not how it works.

00:47:15.000 Substantive due process doesn't make any sense, but the concept is that if you pass a law I don't like, you have violated my due process rights.

00:47:22.000 That's not what due process means.

00:47:24.000 Due process means that once the law is in place, I now get a due process of law

00:47:27.000 Before it is enforced upon me.

00:47:29.000 But the left has been using substantive due process to cram down abortion and the so-called right to privacy and same-sex marriage.

00:47:35.000 They say that any law against these things violates your due process rights.

00:47:39.000 No, it does not violate your due process rights.

00:47:40.000 In fact, the concept of substantive due process was actually coined by Justice Taney.

00:47:46.000 In the infamous and horrific Dred Scott decision in which he actually said that an act of Congress which deprives a citizen of the United States of his liberty or property merely because he came himself or brought his property into particular territory of the United States and who had committed no offense against the laws could hardly be dignified with the name of due process of law.

00:48:04.000 So what he said is that if your slave escapes into the north and you go there and then you want to bring your slave back,

00:48:10.000 You should be allowed to bring your slave back because otherwise you are being deprived of your property without due process of law.

00:48:15.000 Except for the fact that that has nothing to do with anything, okay?

00:48:18.000 That's not due process of law. 0.65

00:48:20.000 Due process of law would mean there would have to be a trial to determine whether you get your slave back or not in this context.

00:48:25.000 But it doesn't mean that you get to automatically overthrow the law because your due process has been denied.

00:48:30.000 Due process of law is very important.

00:48:32.000 Substantive due process, by contrast, is a Supreme Court adjudicated evil that allows them to do whatever they want.

00:48:38.000 So I thought that it was worthwhile elucidating that concept a little bit.

00:48:41.000 Okay.

00:48:42.000 We will be back here tomorrow.

00:48:43.000 It's a Thursday today, correct?

00:48:43.000 So tomorrow is the long-awaited mailbag.

00:48:46.000 We were going to do the interview with Mark Levin today.

00:48:48.000 We'll be doing that tomorrow as well on the show.

00:48:50.000 So the great one will be joining us tomorrow to talk about his brand new number one New York Times bestselling book.

00:48:55.000 And that will be awesome.

00:48:55.000 So be there or be square.

00:48:56.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:48:57.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

The Ben Shapiro Show - July 14, 2017

Collusion Confusion | Ep. 339

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