The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 162 - Hillary Hearts Daddy Terrorist

00:00:00.000 The left never lets its myths die.

00:00:02.000 Today, hashtag Mike Brown trended on Twitter, not because the assistant coach for the Golden State Warriors got a new contract.

00:00:08.000 No, it's because Michael Brown, you know, Saint Michael of the gentle giantedness, died two years ago today.

00:00:14.000 Which, of course, means the media have to rehash their utter lie that Brown was a wonderful, gentle, giant young man shot in cold blood by an evil white cop, all the while shouting, hands up, don't shoot. 0.99

00:00:24.000 Which, of course, is complete crap. 0.99

00:00:26.000 Here's what you need to know. 0.98

00:00:27.000 First,

00:00:28.000 Michael Brown was a criminal.

00:00:29.000 He strong-arm robbed a convenience store moments before he was pulled over by Officer Darren Wilson along with his buddy, Dorian Johnson.

00:00:35.000 But don't worry, he was just an innocent young man minding his own business.

00:00:38.000 Second, Michael Brown attacked a police officer.

00:00:41.000 So after he was pulled over, Brown leaned into Wilson's window and punched him in the face.

00:00:45.000 Which typically is bad strategy if you don't want to have a run-in with the cops.

00:00:48.000 He then reached over to Wilson's gun and tried to grab it, and then when the gun went off, he took off and he ran.

00:00:54.000 Third, Brown charged a police officer.

00:00:56.000 After Officer Wilson popped out of the car and told Brown to freeze, Brown decided, you know, it's a great idea.

00:01:00.000 I'm gonna turn around and charge the officer while shouting at him that he can't do anything to me.

00:01:04.000 Turns out the officer could, and shot him to death. 0.92

00:01:07.000 Fourth, Dorian Johnson, Brown's thug best friend, he lied.

00:01:11.000 Brown never said, hands up, don't shoot.

00:01:12.000 He never even held his hands up.

00:01:13.000 By both witness and forensic testimony, he certainly didn't surrender at any point to the officer.

00:01:18.000 Fifth, members of the Ferguson black community pressured witnesses to shut up or lie. 0.98

00:01:23.000 President Obama maintained in the middle of all of this that, quote,

00:01:48.000 Me didn't.

00:01:50.000 Sixth, the media tried to turn this incident racial.

00:01:52.000 There was no evidence whatsoever Wilson shot Brown for any other reason than the threat to his life, but the Eric Holder Racist Justice Department found there was no rationale for any sort of federal prosecution of Wilson.

00:02:04.000 Seventh, none of this mattered.

00:02:05.000 The media decided the narrative of an innocent black man shot for no reason by a white officer simply had to stand and then they justified the riots in Ferguson based on that lie.

00:02:13.000 Obama used it as an opportunity to push forward his racist agenda.

00:02:17.000 The Black Lives Matter launched itself on the back of a lie. 0.93

00:02:20.000 And so here we are, two years later, and the left is still pushing its lies, because after all, the myth has to be created.

00:02:25.000 And it has to be created in a controversial episode to craft the perception that America is deeply divided on racial issues.

00:02:31.000 If they picked a different episode, if they picked, like, Laquan McDonald, for example, we'd all agree.

00:02:36.000 So instead, they picked a bad example on purpose.

00:02:38.000 And they did so because, first, they don't care about facts, and second, they need opposition in order to show that Americans are racist.

00:02:45.000 But, you know, facts actually do matter.

00:02:47.000 Michael Brown was a criminal who tried to kill a cop, and the cop killed him instead.

00:02:51.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:02:51.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:03:00.000 Ah, here we are.

00:03:00.000 It is a Tuesday, and once again, I am healthy, and life is beautiful, and it's a wonderful thing, except, of course, for politics, which continues to stink beyond all human imagining.

00:03:09.000 Our political scenarios tend to be bad, and now they've gotten even worse.

00:03:13.000 But today, the big boo-boos was Hillary's big boo-boo. 1.00

00:03:17.000 So, Donald Trump will talk about his economic speech, the Trump-nomics plan, in just a little while.

00:03:22.000 And we'll get to this massive conservative infighting that's now taking place in the media sector.

00:03:26.000 But we have to start off with Hillary Clinton making a giant, giant boo-boo. 1.00

00:03:29.000 So today's Hillary Clinton giant, giant boo-boo is she was giving a rally in Kissimmee, Florida.

00:03:34.000 And you'll notice something in the tape that we're about to show you.

00:03:38.000 One of the people who's sitting behind her on stage is Sadiq Khan.

00:03:42.000 You'll recognize his face.

00:03:44.000 Sadiq Khan was the, or, yeah, I think his name is Sadiq Khan, correct?

00:03:49.000 He was the father of Omar Mateen, who was the shooter in the, he was the Orlando Jihadist.

00:03:55.000 It might be Sadiq Mateen, I have to check the name, but in any case, he's sitting behind Hillary.

00:04:00.000 I guess everybody's looking around at this going, wait, wait, wait, hold on a second.

00:04:03.000 So the guy who shot 49 people in Orlando, like five minutes away from where Hillary is giving this rally, is sitting behind Hillary at the rally, clapping for her?

00:04:12.000 Oh yes, it happened.

00:04:14.000 It's real. 0.96

00:04:14.000 Sadiq Mateen, that is his name, sitting directly behind Hillary Clinton, grinning away like a crazy person. 0.96

00:04:22.000 Hillary Clinton speaking to a crowd in Kissimmee, just south of Orlando.

00:04:27.000 Supposed to be talking jobs, but started off paying tribute to those affected by the Pulse nightclub shooting.

00:04:32.000 And I know how many people, family members, loved ones and friends are still grieving.

00:04:39.000 Notice the man right behind Secretary Clinton with a mustache and wearing a red hat.

00:04:45.000 That's the father of the Orlando shooter.

00:04:47.000 What were you thinking when she was talking about the Orlando incident?

00:04:52.000 We've been helping and we were cooperating with federal government, FBI, and that's about it.

00:04:59.000 Thank you.

00:05:00.000 Sadiq Mateen didn't want to answer any other questions.

00:05:04.000 Anything, sir?

00:05:05.000 No.

00:05:05.000 But just hours later, by chance, we ran into him at a rest stop on the way back to West Palm Beach.

00:05:11.000 Clinton is good for United States versus Donald Trump. 0.95

00:05:15.000 He wanted to do an interview and showed us a sign he made for Hillary Clinton.

00:05:20.000 So tell us why you wanted to stop and talk now.

00:05:24.000 Well, I feel like to tell you why I stopped to talk to you, because it's very important for the United States of America, especially the election.

00:05:34.000 I was invited by the Democratic Party.

00:05:37.000 Just like a come support Hillary, just a regular chain email or a personal invitation?

00:05:44.000 So it came, I'm a member, so as a member I get the invitation, so it's nothing particular about it.

00:05:51.000 What went into your decision about going to this event right near Orlando where this Pulse nightclub shooting happened?

00:06:01.000 I wish, because I spoke a lot about that, and I wish that my son joined the army and fought ISIS and destroyed ISIS.

00:06:13.000 That would be much better.

00:06:14.000 Did Hillary Clinton's campaign know that you were going to that event and sitting right directly behind her? 0.90

00:06:21.000 It's a democratic party so everybody can join.

00:06:25.000 Do you think that some people will be surprised to know and to see that you were there in Orlando or near Orlando?

00:06:33.000 Why should they be surprised?

00:06:36.000 I love the United States and I've been living here for a long time.

00:06:44.000 Oh, it's beyond parody.

00:06:45.000 So he wasn't specifically invited by the Hillary Clinton campaign, but let's be clear about something.

00:06:50.000 One of the ways that you get to sit behind a candidate at these things, they understand the cameras are shooting up at Hillary Clinton, right?

00:06:55.000 So one of the ways that you get to sit behind the candidate at events like this is the campaign picks who in the crowd they want to sit behind Hillary Clinton.

00:07:02.000 And it's always the United Colors of Benedict, right?

00:07:04.000 It's always a bunch of people from various

00:07:06.000 Countries who look very different.

00:07:08.000 It looks like a diversity brochure for your local university.

00:07:10.000 They always find the black people, and they find the brown people, and the Asian people, and they stagger them in the background so that it looks like people of all colors, shapes, and sizes support Hillary.

00:07:19.000 Apparently, terrorist fathers support Hillary too, so they stick him up there because diversity matters to the Democrats, right?

00:07:25.000 That's the reason why he's up there.

00:07:26.000 The reason he's up there is because he's a brown guy who looks brown, and he's got a mustache, and he looks like Saddam Hussein, and he's sitting up there behind Hillary Clinton, 0.59

00:07:34.000 Because he's supposed to add diversity to the photo. 0.92

00:07:36.000 Only later does it occur to them, oh, yeah, that's a guy who says that he likes the Taliban and that gay people will be punished by God and whose son murdered 49 people five minutes from here. 0.81

00:07:47.000 So that's kind of awkward. 0.93

00:07:48.000 That's kind of weird.

00:07:48.000 It does go to the idea that

00:07:51.000 And when Hillary Clinton says that she's going to keep us safe, it's like, darling, you can't even keep your stage safe.

00:07:57.000 Like, really, he's the JV team, and he's sitting there behind you.

00:08:02.000 He's not a security threat to Hillary Clinton, but I mean, his son did murder 49 people.

00:08:05.000 It doesn't seem like the world's smartest idea.

00:08:08.000 So this idea that she's going to be really safe on immigration, that she's going to vet all of the various refugees who are coming in all over the United States, that she's going to vet all the Muslim refugees.

00:08:17.000 We can trust her with our security.

00:08:19.000 Obviously, that's untrue. 0.94

00:08:20.000 And it's silly.

00:08:21.000 Now, the media are not paying any attention to this, of course. 0.97

00:08:23.000 So the media went absolutely bonkers over the fact that Donald Trump, one of his delegates at the RNC, was a white supremacist.

00:08:31.000 You remember this.

00:08:32.000 There are tons of reports about this sort of thing.

00:08:34.000 And they asked Donald Trump approximately 1,000 times about support from David Duke and the KKK.

00:08:40.000 And Donald Trump memorably got one of those very egregiously wrong.

00:08:44.000 And that's a question you have to get right 100% of the time.

00:08:46.000 Will anybody ask Hillary about this?

00:08:48.000 Will anybody ask Hillary? 0.89

00:08:49.000 I mean, first of all, she doesn't do press conferences. 0.98

00:08:51.000 But will anybody ask Hillary Clinton, why is it that a guy who says gays will be punished and the Taliban ought to win 1.00

00:08:59.000 is sitting behind you at one of your rallies?

00:09:01.000 Like, how did that happen?

00:09:02.000 Who's getting fired for that?

00:09:03.000 That question will never be asked.

00:09:05.000 They'll just—they'll brush it off.

00:09:05.000 They'll say, oh, well, you know, anybody can sit anywhere.

00:09:07.000 No big deal.

00:09:08.000 Yeah, because that's the way that the media operate here. 0.95

00:09:11.000 But that doesn't mean that Hillary Clinton is off the hook.

00:09:14.000 It just means that she's able to get away with more.

00:09:15.000 So, in other bad Hillary news, the State Department was asked about the fact that, as we discussed yesterday, Hillary Clinton had emails on her private server in which the Iranian spy who's just hanged in Iran

00:09:27.000 He was openly disgusted and called our friend in her email server.

00:09:32.000 And so there was speculation, unbased speculation, because we don't have evidence of this yet, that the Iranians may have hacked her server.

00:09:38.000 And that's how they found out that this guy was a spy.

00:09:40.000 Unlikely.

00:09:40.000 The likely answer is that they knew he was a spy and they threatened his family.

00:09:43.000 So he came back and then they hanged him.

00:09:44.000 But it's a question.

00:09:46.000 It's a decent question.

00:09:47.000 So somebody asks it to the State Department.

00:09:49.000 Watch the State Department avoid answering these questions.

00:09:52.000 We're not going to comment on what may have led to this event.

00:09:57.000 But as we spoke about with Matt, you know, there was public reporting on this topic back in 2010.

00:10:03.000 Former Secretary Clinton discussed this issue in public at that time.

00:10:08.000 So this is not something that became public when the State Department released those emails.

00:10:13.000 Okay, so she says we're not going to discuss it and then she goes on to justify Hillary Clinton. 0.84

00:10:16.000 But it's amazing that she won't just say Hillary's server wasn't hacked, right?

00:10:19.000 Wouldn't that be your normal answer?

00:10:20.000 Wouldn't your normal answer be we have no evidence that Hillary Clinton's email was hacked?

00:10:24.000 But they can't say that because they don't know the answer because Hillary's email might well have been hacked.

00:10:28.000 In fact, nobody knows the answer to that, including Hillary Clinton's own State Department.

00:10:33.000 But that's not stopping Hillary from campaigning. 1.00

00:10:35.000 She's going after Donald Trump, and she's winning.

00:10:37.000 Right now, the polls are very, very bad for Donald Trump.

00:10:40.000 He's down anywhere from 10 to 15 points in most of the major national polls.

00:10:43.000 He's now running behind in Georgia.

00:10:45.000 He's running behind in Arizona.

00:10:46.000 He's running about even in North Carolina.

00:10:49.000 These are not good polls for Donald Trump.

00:10:50.000 We'll discuss the ramifications for all of this.

00:10:54.000 For the Republican Party and what it means for the future in a little while.

00:10:57.000 But Hillary knows that she doesn't have to defend herself.

00:10:59.000 This is the beauty of being a Democrat.

00:11:01.000 And Trump had to know this going in.

00:11:02.000 We all had to know this going in.

00:11:03.000 There was not going to be any fairness from the media.

00:11:05.000 The media were never going to cover Hillary's scandals. 1.00

00:11:07.000 They were never going to cover the fact that yesterday, two Benghazi families actually sued Hillary Clinton for wrongful death in Benghazi.

00:11:14.000 They're not going to cover that.

00:11:15.000 Can you imagine?

00:11:17.000 First of all, Trump University is happening right now.

00:11:19.000 How much coverage has there been of the Trump University lawsuit, this one that's going down in San Diego?

00:11:23.000 Tons and tons of media coverage.

00:11:25.000 Forget what you think about Trump University, whether you think it's a scam or whether you think it's real.

00:11:29.000 The media coverage on it's been extraordinarily heavy.

00:11:32.000 And part of that is because Trump talks about it, but part of it is because the media cover these sorts of things.

00:11:36.000 They cover all of his lawsuits.

00:11:37.000 Hillary Clinton just had a lawsuit filed against her for wrongful death of American cities in Benghazi, Libya.

00:11:43.000 And you can't find that story anywhere but on Fox News.

00:11:46.000 So yes, the media are out to get Trump and they're out to defend Hillary, which frees up Hillary to go on the offensive. 0.64

00:11:51.000 So here is Hillary yesterday going after Donald Trump and saying that he's a bad, mean, terrible man. 0.60

00:11:58.000 And don't be fooled. 0.85

00:11:59.000 There is no other Donald Trump.

00:12:01.000 What you see is what you get.

00:12:06.000 He is still the same Donald Trump who makes his shirts and his ties overseas instead of in the United States.

00:12:14.000 He is the same Donald Trump who refuses to pay his bills for small businesses and working people.

00:12:22.000 And in fact, he is the same person who can be provoked by a tweet.

00:12:30.000 And who takes apparent pleasure in tormenting

00:12:37.000 Okay, so we can stop at this.

00:12:47.000 So Hillary Clinton goes after Trump.

00:12:49.000 Now, two things to note about this.

00:12:50.000 Hillary Clinton's campaign is an absolutely plodding campaign.

00:12:53.000 It just plods forward step after step after step.

00:12:56.000 There's no surprises.

00:12:57.000 There's no shocks.

00:12:57.000 There's no color to this campaign.

00:13:00.000 It's an absolutely boring campaign.

00:13:01.000 That's why she's winning. 0.98

00:13:02.000 She's winning right now because she's letting Trump hang himself.

00:13:04.000 She's letting Trump just do what he's gonna do.

00:13:07.000 Now if Trump shuts it down, if Trump actually gets back on message, then presumably Hillary may actually have to do something. 1.00

00:13:13.000 Because if she's playing with a lead and playing defensively, and Trump gets aggressive with her,

00:13:17.000 Then maybe this turns into a little bit of a race, although it's getting very late in the day.

00:13:21.000 There's a report today that Donald Trump has taken out $0 in ad time.

00:13:25.000 $0 in ad time.

00:13:26.000 Hillary Clinton has taken out $57 million in advertising time.

00:13:30.000 That's not good by the Trump campaign.

00:13:32.000 Again, if you want Trump to win,

00:13:34.000 Then you have to be looking at him at this point and saying, dude, you have to start running a professional campaign at some point in here.

00:13:39.000 But I just want to note that when Trump complains about the media, it's not all false.

00:13:43.000 So you heard Hillary Clinton say, you know, he's bullying a crying baby. 0.96

00:13:46.000 We talked about this last week.

00:13:47.000 It was just a funny situation, right?

00:13:49.000 It was just, it was goofy.

00:13:50.000 It was kind of typical Trump.

00:13:51.000 It was funny.

00:13:52.000 The mom of the crying baby is now out in the media and she's saying, why is this an issue?

00:13:57.000 It was kind of hilarious.

00:13:59.000 I would have just been like blushing.

00:14:01.000 I don't know what I would have done.

00:14:02.000 What did you think?

00:14:03.000 Oh, I'm sure my face was probably five shades of red.

00:14:06.000 Like, yeah.

00:14:07.000 Well, it was even funnier because the whole crowd that was there turned around also with him and they were all looking at me and we were just laughing because they're all going, oh, what a beautiful

00:14:24.000 Okay, so it was hilarious, but that's not how the media covered it.

00:14:32.000 There's an actual think piece, like a long think piece about all of the terrible, terrible things that Donald Trump had done to this poor little baby.

00:14:40.000 I mean, it's just, come on.

00:14:41.000 Come on. 0.95

00:14:41.000 I mean, this is silly talk. 0.95

00:14:43.000 Now, this isn't to say that Donald Trump is a standard-bearer for conservatism.

00:14:49.000 We're going to talk about that in a minute.

00:14:50.000 We're going to go through his economic speech, which I think is kind of important, because it's important to actually mention his policy here.

00:14:56.000 And we'll do a little bit of good Trump, bad Trump. 0.96

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00:15:41.000 Cowabunga dude.

00:15:41.000 All right, so we're back, and here's the thing.

00:15:44.000 So it's time for some good Trump, bad Trump.

00:15:45.000 So, Trump yesterday had a pretty good day.

00:15:48.000 Not externally.

00:15:49.000 Externally, he had a very bad day.

00:15:50.000 There were these 50 national security experts who couldn't be bothered to say anything in the primaries, but now that Trump is the nominee, now they come out and they say they don't like Trump.

00:15:57.000 Susan Collins, who's the senator from Maine, she says she doesn't like Trump.

00:16:01.000 There are some, you know, kind of bad pieces of news.

00:16:03.000 The polling is bad for Trump.

00:16:05.000 But Trump himself had a good day because somebody took away his phone and hid it from him while he was in the bathroom. 0.95

00:16:09.000 And so he was incapable of tweeting out silly things.

00:16:13.000 And so all you got of Trump yesterday was actually his economic speech.

00:16:16.000 And his economic speech was not terrible.

00:16:19.000 His economic speech, I have to say, our standards in this election have been lowered so much that what would be considered by any stretch of the imagination, like a normal stump speech, is now considered like, yeah, Donald, you can do it.

00:16:30.000 We sort of treat Donald Trump as a candidate the way I treat my two-year-old daughter when I take her swimming.

00:16:34.000 Which is, oh my—you just swam five feet, honey.

00:16:37.000 That's fantastic.

00:16:38.000 That's fantastic.

00:16:38.000 Like, at the very end, I had to grab your hands and pull you out of the water so you didn't drown, but it was really, really great.

00:16:43.000 That's sort of how we treat Trump as candidate, unfortunately.

00:16:47.000 We treat him with these kind of kid gloves.

00:16:49.000 Oh, Donald, you read from a teleprompter!

00:16:51.000 And you didn't make any huge mistakes.

00:16:52.000 I mean, you didn't make one mistake where you were trying to say the word cities and instead you said a word that sounds like a strip club.

00:16:57.000 But aside from that, it was pretty good.

00:17:00.000 So we'll do a little bit good Trump, bad Trump here.

00:17:03.000 We'll start with, as always, good Trump.

00:17:05.000 So Trump still has his sense of humor, which is good because he doesn't have much else in the polls.

00:17:10.000 So speaking of Trump's sense of humor, I wish that this is what people like about Trump.

00:17:14.000 What people like about Trump is when he seems like he's having fun.

00:17:16.000 Lately, he just seems like he's bitter and angry at the world because the polls aren't going his way.

00:17:21.000 When he's having fun up there, then people tend to like him.

00:17:24.000 So here was how Donald Trump dealt with some protesters yesterday.

00:17:27.000 Home ownership is at its lowest rate in 51 years.

00:17:53.000 They're bullying, they're bullying.

00:17:54.000 And Trump is just waiting.

00:18:00.000 Thank you very much.

00:18:02.000 Thank you.

00:18:03.000 I will say the Bernie Sanders people had far more energy and spirit, I will say.

00:18:10.000 Alright, good stuff.

00:18:12.000 And look at you, Donald.

00:18:13.000 Look at that, like, a contained response.

00:18:15.000 Like, you didn't actually call for them to be beaten up or dragged out by the feet and hung up and caned or anything.

00:18:20.000 Like, that was good.

00:18:21.000 That was really good.

00:18:22.000 And some of his other economic policy stuff was not bad either.

00:18:25.000 Like, for example, here is Donald Trump talking about Detroit and all the problems with Detroit.

00:18:30.000 Some of this is good, some of this is bad.

00:18:31.000 We'll explain what's good and what's bad.

00:18:33.000 When we were governed by the America First policy, Detroit was absolutely booming.

00:18:40.000 Engineers, builders, laborers, shippers, and countless others went to work each day, provided for their families, and lived out, totally lived out, the American dream.

00:18:55.000 But for many living in this city, that dream has long ago vanished.

00:19:01.000 When we abandoned the policy of America first, we started rebuilding other countries instead of our own. 0.66

00:19:11.000 The skyscrapers went up in Beijing and many other cities around the world, while the factories and neighborhoods crumbled right here in Detroit.

00:19:23.000 Our roads and bridges fell into disrepair, yet we found the money to resettle millions of refugees at taxpayer expense. 1.00

00:19:35.000 Today, Detroit has per capita income of under $15,000, about half of the national average.

00:19:45.000 Forty percent of the city's residents live in poverty, over two and a half times the national average.

00:19:53.000 The unemployment rate is more than twice the national average.

00:19:59.000 Half of all Detroit residents do not work.

00:20:04.000 Detroit tops the list of the most dangerous cities in terms of violent crime.

00:20:16.000 Protesters yelling in the background.

00:20:17.000 We can stop it there for a second.

00:20:18.000 So what Trump is saying about how terrible Detroit is, is absolutely true.

00:20:22.000 It's actually kind of amazing.

00:20:23.000 You know, I'll explain that his diagnosis here is wrong.

00:20:28.000 His answer, actually, his diagnosis is sort of correct, that Detroit stinks.

00:20:35.000 His recommendation, his prescription is totally wrong, and I'll explain why in a second.

00:20:39.000 But when you go to Detroit, it's actually kind of fascinating.

00:20:41.000 I was in Detroit maybe a couple of years ago for a conference for Hillsdale College, and I was supposed to do my morning radio show from Detroit, so I had to drive over to the local Salem station.

00:20:51.000 Well, the local Salem affiliate is located right on 8 Mile Road, which of course is famous because of the Eminem film.

00:20:56.000 And if you drive along 8 Mile, it's the border between two counties.

00:21:01.000 It's the border between Wayne County and Detroit County.

00:21:03.000 It's the border between the Detroit city proper and then the suburbs.

00:21:09.000 And it's like legitimately a dividing line.

00:21:11.000 It's where one authority ends and another authority begins.

00:21:13.000 We're good to go.

00:21:28.000 Out-of-business shoe store, liquor store, tire store, tattoo shop, liquor store, out-of-business tire store.

00:21:37.000 Like, that's what it looks like.

00:21:38.000 It's just forever and occasionally a strip club.

00:21:40.000 That's legitimately what it looks like on the Detroit side of 8 Mile.

00:21:44.000 And the reason that it looks that way is not because we're outsourcing jobs to China.

00:21:48.000 Okay?

00:21:48.000 That's not why.

00:21:49.000 The reason it looks that way is because what happened in Detroit is that the government in Detroit decided that it would be worthwhile to tax everybody out of existence and everybody just moved into the suburbs.

00:21:59.000 So all the areas that are directly around Detroit are just fine.

00:22:01.000 Detroit itself has emptied out of every taxpayer.

00:22:04.000 All the people who couldn't afford to leave are still stuck there, but the taxes are high, so nobody's coming back in and building businesses.

00:22:09.000 The only people who are left are people who don't have jobs, and the reason that they don't have jobs is because all the people who built the businesses have left.

00:22:16.000 So, too many regulations, too much taxation, the unions like UAW absolutely destroyed the manufacturing base in Michigan because they signed all of these lucrative contracts with the auto manufacturers, basically blackmailed them into it with the help of the federal government through the National Labor Relations Board.

00:22:31.000 And then it turns out that it's cheaper to manufacture somewhere else.

00:22:35.000 Now what Trump does, he goes on, and here's where you get into bad Trump, of course.

00:22:39.000 Trump diagnoses the problem in Detroit not as a few problems that are deeply interrelated.

00:22:45.000 Too much government interventionism, too many social services provided by too much taxation, there's no one left to pay the taxes, so you actually have to try and force people to stay.

00:22:53.000 A few years ago, the mayor of Detroit tried to actually say that if you wanted to work in the city of Detroit,

00:22:59.000 He wanted to pass a law that said if you had to work in the city of Detroit, you had to live in the city of Detroit, so you couldn't commute in.

00:23:03.000 He was trying to do that to try and get somebody to come in and pay all the massive taxes that he wanted everybody to pay.

00:23:09.000 Instead of blaming it on the taxation, instead of blaming it on the regulation and the unions and blaming it on the

00:23:14.000 The incredible social services that the city government kept voting that were never going to come to fruition because there was no one to pay the taxes.

00:23:21.000 Instead of actually telling the true story of Detroit, in other words, Donald Trump tells a fake story.

00:23:25.000 And the fake story that Donald Trump tells is that we basically let all of these companies, let them, right?

00:23:30.000 It's a free country.

00:23:31.000 They should be able to do what they want.

00:23:32.000 We let them take their jobs and move them to Mexico. 1.00

00:23:35.000 And that's why nobody in Michigan has a job anymore.

00:23:37.000 Here's Donald Trump talking about trade and making basically that case.

00:23:41.000 Because my only interest is the American people, I have previously laid out a detailed seven-point plan for trade reform available on my website.

00:23:52.000 It includes strong protections against currency manipulation.

00:23:57.000 Big problem.

00:24:01.000 And I want to explain to people what currency manipulation is and why he's talking about it.

00:24:05.000 So, Donald Trump's suggestion is that when China inflates its currency, it's destroying our manufacturing base.

00:24:11.000 The reason he says this is, let's say that China has to pay its workers.

00:24:16.000 So what it does, it inflates its currency, it pays its workers more of its currency, but it means that the currency is worth less.

00:24:24.000 So basically, I can now buy more from China, theoretically, because they've inflated their currency.

00:24:30.000 My dollar is now worth more of their currency.

00:24:32.000 It's worth more again, right?

00:24:33.000 One, I think, is their currency.

00:24:35.000 It's worth more one.

00:24:36.000 So my dollar is worth more one, I can buy more things there.

00:24:39.000 Presumably this means that I can buy more labor there and I can outsource.

00:24:42.000 The only problem with this particular point of view is that it's not true.

00:24:45.000 Currency manipulation doesn't do anything in the long term.

00:24:48.000 All currency manipulation does is destroy your savings rate in the country in which you're working.

00:24:53.000 This is why Venezuela has had tremendous, tremendous problems with inflating its currency, and nobody is working there, right?

00:24:59.000 Everybody's unemployed.

00:25:00.000 Weimar Germany used to inflate its currency all the way up to the point where people were, obviously, there are pictures of this, shoveling wheelbarrows around full of money.

00:25:07.000 That didn't make Weimar Republic a hub for investment.

00:25:10.000 It made people feel unstable.

00:25:11.000 It made it feel like you couldn't invest there because who knew what the government was going to do?

00:25:14.000 They were going to start grabbing money any second.

00:25:16.000 So currency manipulation, Mitt Romney used to focus on this too, and it really is not, it's not really a strong economic point.

00:25:23.000 If China manipulates its currency, all they're doing is giving us a temporary advantage in our ability to hire their workers, but those workers are presumably willing to work for cheaper anyway, because again, those workers still have to eat, and they have to spend their yuan on other food to pay for the food, so we can't,

00:25:39.000 It doesn't work this way, in other words.

00:25:41.000 To put it in short, Donald Trump's vision of currency manipulation is not really a relevant one.

00:25:46.000 It's not economically literate.

00:25:47.000 Okay, we can continue.

00:25:48.000 Tariffs against any countries that cheat by unfairly subsidizing their goods.

00:25:55.000 And it includes a total renegotiation of NAFTA, which is a disaster for our country.

00:26:03.000 A total...

00:26:04.000 So he talks about we're signing these bad deals and NAFTA's a disaster for the country and TPP's a disaster for the country.

00:26:10.000 Okay, there's a case against TPP.

00:26:11.000 The case against TPP, the Trans-Pacific Partnership, is a case against giving President Obama what we call free trade authority, FTA.

00:26:19.000 The reason that we don't want to give Obama free trade authority

00:26:22.000 It's because that basically presigns away Congress's ability to look at any trade deal he negotiates.

00:26:28.000 Trade Promotion Authority, TPA, right?

00:26:30.000 That's what it's called.

00:26:30.000 So the reason we don't want to give that to Obama is because he could negotiate a climate change deal under the guise of a trade deal and then ram it down our throats.

00:26:38.000 That's the real reason that conservatives, many of them, are opposed to the Trans-Pacific Partnership deal.

00:26:43.000 We don't even know what's in it.

00:26:45.000 But NAFTA, you know, the TPP in principle, the idea of free trade agreements in principle, Trump is against those in principle. 1.00

00:26:51.000 This is stupid. 0.99

00:26:52.000 The idea that free trade is what destroyed the domestic auto industry is just not true. 0.99

00:26:56.000 What destroyed the domestic auto industry, and I've written a full monograph on this, what destroyed the domestic auto industry in the United States was heavy government subsidies for years, followed by massive unionization and bad deals which drove up the cost of labor, and because the United States

00:27:12.000 was subsidizing the auto industry, they could afford to pay all of these high wages to the various auto workers.

00:27:17.000 And then, we opened up our markets, because it turned out that people were sick of paying twice what they ought to pay for a car, because the cars in the 1970s, look at American cars in the 1970s, they suck.

00:27:26.000 The reason they suck is because they'd been subsidized.

00:27:28.000 We opened up our markets, and immediately Asian cars started pouring into the United States, and taking up market share. 0.88

00:27:33.000 So at that point, the American auto industry started to go under, right?

00:27:37.000 Chrysler declared its first bankruptcy in the 80s.

00:27:39.000 So I think Ford declared bankruptcy at that point too.

00:27:42.000 The idea is that you have to, that what you actually have to do is open all of the markets and then ensure that American business is the most competitive.

00:27:51.000 NAFTA actually did that.

00:27:52.000 So NAFTA actually saved jobs in the car business.

00:27:55.000 The reason NAFTA saved jobs in the car business is because if we did not allow, if we weren't able to allow our car companies to compete in the global marketplace, then there wouldn't be any place for us to sell those cars.

00:28:07.000 We could sell some of them in America, but they'd be really, really expensive.

00:28:09.000 People would buy the foreign cars anyway because they're better.

00:28:12.000 And then all those domestic car jobs would just go away.

00:28:15.000 What happened in NAFTA is we shipped a lot of the kind of low-rent manufacturing jobs from places like Michigan all the way down to Mexico.

00:28:22.000 But what that also allowed is for the car manufacturers to locate other plants in places in the United States that weren't heavily unionized, like down south in Mississippi.

00:28:31.000 Mississippi's seen a booming car industry because of NAFTA.

00:28:35.000 Because now that we can have jobs down in Mexico, it makes it cheaper for the car companies to manufacture the components in the United States, because now you're in a geographically similar territory.

00:28:44.000 If it hadn't been for NAFTA, all that would have happened is that companies like American companies, they would just go overseas to Korea and Japan and Vietnam and China, and they would have manufactured American cars overseas.

00:28:53.000 There wouldn't be American cars anymore.

00:28:55.000 This is why, it's funny, when I was younger, I used to only buy American cars.

00:28:58.000 I don't do that anymore.

00:28:59.000 I've bought Hondas, and the reason is because a lot of the Honda that you drive is actually made in America.

00:29:04.000 And a lot of the Ford that you drive is made somewhere else because of globalization.

00:29:09.000 Okay, but Trump says that it's free trade that's really destroying all these jobs.

00:29:12.000 The fact is, all of the cool things that you have are basically due to free trade.

00:29:16.000 And if you put tariffs on cars coming in, and if you tariff countries that subsidize their domestic industries, all you're doing is punishing the American consumer.

00:29:27.000 Like, if China wants to subsidize its car industry, that just means it's cheaper for me to buy a car.

00:29:31.000 Good, now I can spend my money on industries that are super-duper competitive in America, like, for example, the burgeoning technology industry.

00:29:39.000 We can use it on the service industry in the United States.

00:29:41.000 The nice thing about economics is that it follows the consumer.

00:29:44.000 It's my job to decide what is the best buying decision.

00:29:47.000 It's not Donald Trump's job to decide what's the best buying decision.

00:29:51.000 Because I buy based on what I need for my family.

00:29:53.000 And nobody has the right to interfere with that.

00:29:56.000 Nobody has the right to interfere with that.

00:29:57.000 Okay, so, you know, then he continues, and then he gets to the good part of his speech.

00:30:01.000 So this is the kind of Bernie Sanders, Democrat part of his speech.

00:30:04.000 Then he gets to the actual good part of Trumpnomics, which is sort of the supply side half, the free market half of Trump economics.

00:30:10.000 So here is Donald Trump ripping into Hillary Clinton.

00:30:13.000 Every policy that has failed this city, and so many others, is a policy supported by Hillary Clinton.

00:30:22.000 She supports the high taxes and radical regulation.

00:30:27.000 That forced jobs out of your community and the crime policies have made you far, far less safe.

00:30:35.000 And the immigration policies that have strained local budgets and the trade deals like NAFTA, signed by her husband, that have shipped your jobs to Mexico and other countries.

00:30:49.000 And she supports the education policies that deny your students choice.

00:30:57.000 Freedom and opportunity.

00:30:59.000 Everything he says right there, everything he says there with the exception of the NAFTA nonsense is true, right?

00:31:04.000 The Democrats support crappy education policy that keeps kids trapped in failing schools in inner city Detroit.

00:31:09.000 They support all of the crime policies that make Detroit a haven for crime and ensure that nobody can invest.

00:31:14.000 You really want to have investment in inner cities, folks?

00:31:16.000 What you actually need is a low crime area.

00:31:18.000 Nobody's going to take their company's money and put it in an area where they are afraid that the business is going to get robbed every couple of days.

00:31:26.000 It's just not how things work.

00:31:27.000 So Trump is right about this.

00:31:28.000 And then Trump talks about tax reform.

00:31:30.000 And this, of course, is also good stuff.

00:31:33.000 I am proposing an across-the-board income tax reduction, especially for middle-income Americans.

00:31:39.000 This will lead to millions of new and really good-paying jobs.

00:31:44.000 The rich will pay their fair share, but no one will pay so much that it destroys jobs or undermines our ability as a nation to compete.

00:32:02.000 As part of this reform, we will eliminate the carried interest deduction.

00:32:20.000 Thank you.

00:32:21.000 As part of this reform, we will eliminate the carried interest deduction, well-known deduction, and other special interest loopholes that have been so good for Wall Street investors and for people like me

00:32:36.000 But unfair to American workers.

00:32:39.000 Stop it there. 0.93

00:32:41.000 Again, the problem with Trumpism is that it mixes up a lot of good stuff with a lot of silly stuff.

00:32:45.000 So, when Trump says we have to lower tax rates, obviously that's true.

00:32:49.000 But at the same time, when he says that the rich will pay their fair share?

00:32:51.000 Okay, the top 1% of income earners in the United States are paying nearly half of all income taxes in America.

00:32:57.000 They're paying 46% of all income taxes in America.

00:32:59.000 The top 1% are paying 46% of all income taxes in America.

00:33:04.000 They're paying their fair share, and they're paying more than their fair share.

00:33:06.000 The top 20% are paying 84% of all federal income tax.

00:33:10.000 Whenever we talk about middle-income Americans are bearing the tax burden, they are absolutely not bearing the tax burden.

00:33:15.000 The people bearing the tax burden are the people at the top of the economic echelon.

00:33:19.000 Okay, and it's not close.

00:33:20.000 It's by far.

00:33:21.000 When he talks about the carried income loophole, what he's talking about, the carried interest loophole, what he's talking about is a way that financial firms reward hedge fund partners basically if they do a good job.

00:33:35.000 If you're a general partner of a private investment fund and you get income,

00:33:39.000 That flows to you as the general partner of a private investment fund.

00:33:42.000 It's treated as capital gains.

00:33:43.000 Your bonus gets treated as capital gains instead of as income.

00:33:46.000 He says that this is a terrible thing.

00:33:48.000 I don't think it really matters much.

00:33:49.000 You know, it's sort of a throwaway line that pleases people who are anti-Wall Street.

00:33:54.000 The fact is that the tax system should be significantly simpler.

00:33:57.000 Just get rid of all deductions and have a lower tax rate.

00:34:01.000 Just get rid of all deductions.

00:34:02.000 Then you don't have to keep your receipts and you don't have to worry about what does the government think is worthwhile and what does the government think is not worthwhile.

00:34:07.000 Either have a single flat rate, right, like Steve Forbes said, or have a national sales tax, as Neil Bortz once proposed, what he called the fair tax.

00:34:16.000 But the way the tax system works as a whole is a joke.

00:34:18.000 But what Trump is proposing here generally is not bad stuff at all.

00:34:22.000 So, the Wall Street Journal even is pleased with this, which is kind of a shocker.

00:34:25.000 Wall Street Journal's Daniel Henninger, he says that Trump's speech about the economy was quite good.

00:34:32.000 I think this was the first important step in a big uphill comeback for Donald Trump.

00:34:37.000 The question now is whether he will stay on message, whether he'll go around the country basically repeating this speech, giving people some hope, giving the details of his economic plan, simplifying the tax code down to three basic rates, lowering the corporate gains rate, eliminating the death tax, requiring regulators to justify federal regulations.

00:34:58.000 I mean, these are things that will appeal both to

00:35:00.000 We're good to go.

00:35:22.000 Okay, so what he's saying here is, I think, not completely false.

00:35:25.000 I think that if Trump stays on message, obviously he's going to have a much better shot at winning than if he gets off message.

00:35:31.000 The part, by the way, of Daniel Henninger here is being played by John Wood from War Games.

00:35:36.000 But in any case, the fact that Trump is on message about the economy I think is a positive for the Trump campaign.

00:35:45.000 Is it enough?

00:35:46.000 I don't think it's enough.

00:35:47.000 The reason I don't think it's enough is because, again, all of Trump's economics are infused with the basic idea that the economy is rigged against you.

00:35:54.000 The economy is not rigged against you.

00:35:56.000 Free trade is not rigged against you.

00:35:58.000 It turns out that most obstacles in life are

00:36:02.000 Overcomable if you work hard enough.

00:36:04.000 I really believe this.

00:36:04.000 I really think that this is the case.

00:36:06.000 Especially in a free country, at least, this is the case.

00:36:08.000 Free trade is a form of freedom.

00:36:10.000 If you don't like competition in the global marketplace, that's your problem.

00:36:14.000 It's not mine as a consumer, and it's not mine as a worker.

00:36:17.000 And the idea that Donald Trump is going to come in and he's going to lie to you, and he's going to make America great again by pushing all of these regulations on the ability to trade, that's foolishness.

00:36:26.000 That said, his tax policy is just fine, but it's the merger of the two that's sort of troubling.

00:36:31.000 Peter Nalen is this guy who's running against Paul Ryan in Wisconsin, and he's going to lose.

00:36:36.000 I think the vote is today, and he's going to lose badly.

00:36:38.000 But Peter Nalen, he goes after Paul Ryan.

00:36:40.000 Why?

00:36:40.000 Because he's a globalist.

00:36:41.000 And this is the word that you've heard a lot, globalist.

00:36:43.000 Here's Peter Nalen doing exactly that.

00:36:46.000 I'm asking a simple question.

00:36:47.000 Are both sides clean on this?

00:36:49.000 You think Republicans are clean on illegal immigration?

00:36:52.000 Absolutely not.

00:36:54.000 Absolutely not.

00:36:54.000 There is a group of Democrats and a group of Republicans that are absolutely working together against the American people.

00:37:02.000 They want cheap labor in here because that's what their donors want. 1.00

00:37:06.000 I called Paul Ryan, the head of the soulless snake,

00:37:12.000 Globalist snake because Paul Ryan wants cheap labor in this country.

00:37:16.000 Chris, there's 5.5 billion people in this world that make less than the average Mexican worker.

00:37:25.000 What are we going to do?

00:37:26.000 Are we going to open our doors to 5.5 billion people?

00:37:28.000 Okay, so this is one of the things that annoys me about Trumpnomics is the implication that if you want free trade, that you must want everyone to illegally immigrate to the United States.

00:37:39.000 And so people use the word globalist like that's what it means.

00:37:41.000 That's not what globalist means.

00:37:42.000 Globalist means you want international institutions to rule the United States, right?

00:37:47.000 You want the UN to tell us what to do.

00:37:49.000 Okay, that's not what free trade is.

00:37:51.000 Free trade is no one telling us what to do, and certainly our government not telling us as individuals what to do.

00:37:56.000 It's the conflation of these two things, the free trade and globalism, that really irks me when it comes to economics.

00:38:02.000 Okay, so in other news today, there's a new supposedly never-Trump candidate.

00:38:07.000 I want to make a quick point about never-Trump.

00:38:08.000 Never-Trump is kind of two things.

00:38:10.000 There's what the media thinks never-Trump is, and then there are the people who declare themselves never-Trump.

00:38:14.000 So, what never-Trump actually is, is individuals who decide that they can't vote for Trump.

00:38:18.000 Right, when people say I'm never Trump, what they mean is I'm an individual who has said that I can't vote in good conscience for Donald Trump for a variety of reasons that I've explained a thousand times before.

00:38:27.000 You know, all that said, there's a group of people who are supposedly never Trump and their idea is we must stop Donald Trump from becoming president at all costs.

00:38:36.000 I don't—I think this election is lost to conservatives no matter what happens, so I have no—I'm certainly not going to back Hillary Clinton, and I have no interest in overtly attempting to sync Donald Trump with another candidate.

00:38:50.000 That's not my goal here.

00:38:51.000 My goal is to tell the truth across the board about all of these candidates.

00:38:55.000 One of the people they're throwing up is a guy named Eric McMuffin—McMullen.

00:38:59.000 And McMuffin is a CIA—former CIA agent.

00:39:03.000 It seems like a good, solid conservative.

00:39:05.000 But I just want to point out one thing.

00:39:06.000 So here is McMullen.

00:39:08.000 He's now declared his candidacy for President of the United States.

00:39:10.000 He's eligible in, like, three states.

00:39:13.000 It's more like 20.

00:39:13.000 But he's not going to do any damage at all.

00:39:16.000 But here he is on TV last night talking about Donald Trump and why he's running.

00:39:20.000 He's already demonstrated that he doesn't respect them or their families, his attacks on our American heroes, like the Khan family, and like John McCain.

00:39:30.000 This is somebody that we cannot trust the lives of those who are already risking their lives, too.

00:39:36.000 He is inhuman.

00:39:38.000 Donald Trump does not care about anyone other than himself. 0.93

00:39:43.000 Okay, so he's going after Trump really hard, obviously.

00:39:46.000 And then Trish Regan asks McMuffin,

00:39:52.000 Are you okay then with Hillary Clinton getting elected?

00:39:54.000 Are you okay with your taxes going higher?

00:39:56.000 Of course not.

00:39:56.000 Are you okay with her picking the Supreme Court justices?

00:39:58.000 Of course not.

00:39:59.000 Listen, the suggestion then is that I somehow would force her to win.

00:40:03.000 Donald Trump is losing badly already to Hillary.

00:40:06.000 I've just entered the race today.

00:40:08.000 He's doing terribly and he can't keep his foot out of his mouth.

00:40:11.000 But you just heard Chris say, you know, look, it's early.

00:40:14.000 There's still more than 90 days to go and, you know, polls can be meaningless when you finally go to the ballot box.

00:40:21.000 Oh well, I think... And there are polls right now that suggest he is actually running quite tightly with her in some states.

00:40:28.000 So the thinking would be that you might pull away some of those votes, therefore tipping the favor to Hillary Clinton.

00:40:35.000 Donald Trump is losing badly now according to the polls, according to the RealClearPolitics average poll even, which is...

00:40:43.000 Doesn't necessarily reflect the current situation and it still shows that he's quite a bit behind.

00:40:48.000 Donald Trump keeps saying terrible things that alienates large swaths of the population.

00:40:55.000 He's wholly unfit.

00:40:57.000 I think, in fact, he's dangerous to the country.

00:40:59.000 And, by the way, he is not a conservative.

00:41:01.000 The idea that Donald Trump is a conservative is a complete farce. 0.98

00:41:05.000 He is a con man who pretends to be a conservative. 0.99

00:41:08.000 Wow.

00:41:08.000 Well, those are some big allegations for someone who doesn't want to see Hillary Clinton elected.

00:41:12.000 Okay, this sort of argument annoys me.

00:41:15.000 You're acknowledging the truth about Donald Trump and this is what's going to get Hillary elected? 0.99

00:41:19.000 No, what's going to get Hillary elected is the fact that you idiots nominated Donald Trump in the first place and now he's getting absolutely destroyed by 15 points. 0.99

00:41:26.000 I will say that when it comes to Eric McMullin, McMuffin, that it seems one of the reasons he's not going to go anywhere is because he doesn't know how to do this. 0.99

00:41:34.000 If you actually wanted to launch a campaign like this, a common man campaign, what you need to do is you need to go in there and actually not be so serious.

00:41:40.000 You actually need to go in there and you need to say, look,

00:41:43.000 I woke up, when they say, why are you running?

00:41:44.000 You say, look, I woke up this morning and this campaign was not just a dumpster fire.

00:41:49.000 It was a dumpster fire atop a trash boat that was also on fire and was sinking into the middle of the, of the dung infested, Zika infested seas of Rio. 0.98

00:42:02.000 That's what this election was.

00:42:04.000 And so I looked around and I thought, can I do better than this?

00:42:06.000 And I thought,

00:42:07.000 Well, yeah, pretty much anybody can.

00:42:08.000 My dog can do better than this.

00:42:09.000 And yet everybody seems too chicken to actually get up there and say it. 0.95

00:42:12.000 So, screw it. 0.97

00:42:13.000 I'm here.

00:42:13.000 And, you know, you want to vote for me, vote for me.

00:42:15.000 You don't want to vote for me, don't vote for me.

00:42:16.000 I'm a nobody.

00:42:17.000 That's the reason I'm running.

00:42:18.000 I'm running because I'm a nobody. 0.99

00:42:19.000 You have two somebodies, and they both stink. 0.99

00:42:21.000 Right? 0.98

00:42:21.000 That's how he actually should approach this. 0.98

00:42:23.000 But that's not how he's approaching this.

00:42:26.000 And never Trump is not going to stop Trump.

00:42:28.000 Okay?

00:42:29.000 The only thing that's going to stop Trump is Trump.

00:42:31.000 Hillary Clinton is deeply vulnerable.

00:42:33.000 Obviously, she makes mistakes that are unbelievably gargantuan, like having the father of a terrorist at one of her rallies sitting behind her so that they're both visible in the photos.

00:42:42.000 It's just amazing stuff. 0.95

00:42:44.000 And if Trump had one iota of decency as a candidate, then he'd be killing her in the polls, and he should be killing her in the polls. 0.81

00:42:50.000 So this raises a final question before we get to things I like and things I hate.

00:42:53.000 And that is, who's to blame for the rise of Trump?

00:42:56.000 So a big battle has broken out.

00:42:57.000 Everybody's looking at the polls right now, and panic has set in.

00:43:00.000 And here's the truth.

00:43:01.000 It's a little bit early for panic to set in.

00:43:02.000 There's some new Quinnipiac polls that are out right now.

00:43:05.000 In Florida, Hillary is up by one, 46-45. 0.80

00:43:08.000 In Ohio, Hillary is up by three or four, 49-45.

00:43:12.000 In Pennsylvania, Hillary is up by 10, 52 to 42.

00:43:16.000 So it's not a blowout in some of these states yet.

00:43:19.000 The polls show that she's obviously gained, she's obviously doing well in some of these states, but it's not a massive blowout yet. 0.58

00:43:24.000 But the panic is setting in anyway.

00:43:25.000 So some of the people who are panicking are big Trump supporters.

00:43:28.000 So Sean Hannity, who's been supporting Trump for

00:43:31.000 Well, since the primaries.

00:43:32.000 I mean, clearly, clearly pro-Trump.

00:43:34.000 As one online wag joked, I wish that my wife looked at me the way that Sean Hannity looks at Donald Trump. 1.00

00:43:40.000 Sean Hannity, a few days ago, he went off on all the people he's going to blame if Donald Trump loses.

00:43:47.000 Seems Paul Ryan and some of these other establishment Republican types have taken to the idea that they are going to be true to what it means to be a Republican.

00:43:58.000 And I don't think there's anything about Trump's agenda that's not conservative, except maybe with the issue of trade.

00:44:05.000 You can argue on the issue of free trade, but I think Trump's a free trader.

00:44:10.000 He just wants better trade deals and everything to him is a negotiation.

00:44:14.000 So, you know, as far as I'm concerned, I feel like I'm going to tell you one other thing.

00:44:19.000 I'm just going to say it.

00:44:21.000 Because it needs to be said.

00:44:23.000 If in 96 days Trump loses this election.

00:44:28.000 I am pointing the finger directly at people like Paul Ryan, and Mitch McConnell, and Lindsey Graham, and John McCain, and John Kasich, and Ted Cruz if he won't endorse, and any of the Jeb Bush and everybody else that made promises they're not keeping.

00:44:47.000 And because I have watched and witnessed to the point of incredible frustration, I have watched these Republicans be more harsh towards Donald Trump than they've ever been in standing up to Barack Obama and his radical agenda that has doubled the national debt

00:45:06.000 That has resulted in a 51-year low in terms of homeownership in this country, the percentage of homes that are owned by Americans.

00:45:14.000 That has led to the lowest labor participation rate since the 70s.

00:45:18.000 And that has led to millions and millions and millions more Americans in poverty and on food stamps and out of the labor force.

00:45:24.000 They did nothing!

00:45:26.000 Nothing.

00:45:27.000 All these phony votes to repeal and replace Obamacare show votes so they can go back and keep their power and get re-elected?

00:45:35.000 Sorry, you created Donald Trump.

00:45:37.000 All of you.

00:45:38.000 Okay, so his case is basically that the Republican Congress created Donald Trump.

00:45:43.000 There's merit to this.

00:45:44.000 There's merit to this.

00:45:45.000 The frustration that Republican voters feel with the Republican establishment for not doing enough to fight Barack Obama's amnesty and Obamacare, that's justified.

00:45:52.000 Here's the problem.

00:45:53.000 What Sean Hannity's solution was, was to get behind the one guy who is not conservative on any of these issues.

00:46:00.000 And he's not.

00:46:00.000 I mean, Trump is not a conservative.

00:46:01.000 He doesn't believe all of the things that we believe.

00:46:03.000 I'll play a tape in a moment showing you just this.

00:46:05.000 You know, Donald Trump is not any of the things that Hannity proposes to be.

00:46:09.000 If Sean Hannity actually thought that these were the big problems that he had with the Republican establishment, I mean, it's funny.

00:46:14.000 He's ripping into Ted Cruz for not endorsing Donald Trump.

00:46:17.000 And saying that these people didn't fight against Obamacare?

00:46:20.000 Excuse me, Ted Cruz was the guy who was filibustering Obamacare on the floor of the Senate.

00:46:25.000 Ted Cruz was the guy who was trying to shut down the government to stop Obamacare.

00:46:29.000 Don't give me this routine. 0.98

00:46:31.000 Lumping in Paul Ryan with Ted Cruz is just ridiculous. 0.92

00:46:33.000 So that's what's wrong with that argument.

00:46:35.000 So yes, the Republican establishment bears a heavy burden of blame for the anger that led to the nomination of Donald Trump.

00:46:42.000 But there's another side to this.

00:46:44.000 And that other side is the reaction of some people like Sean Hannity was to go and get behind the guy who has no interest in pushing against the Republican establishment agenda.

00:46:53.000 He actually agrees with the Democrats on half this stuff.

00:46:56.000 Okay, so that's one side of this.

00:46:58.000 On the other side, you got establishment folks like Bret Stephens over at the Wall Street Journal, and he and Sean Hannity have been going at it tooth and nail over the past few days on Twitter. 0.99

00:47:07.000 Bret Stephens called Sean, I think, the dumbest man at Fox News, and then Sean Hannity responded by calling Bret Stephens a dumbass with his head up his ass, which was not the world's greatest response. 0.99

00:47:16.000 And so here's Bret Stephens talking about the Trump campaign. 0.99

00:47:19.000 This is the standard line of the Trump side of the party, that all of us who oppose him

00:47:25.000 I think so.

00:47:47.000 feel the same way.

00:47:47.000 It's not a convincing argument.

00:47:49.000 And it's particularly not convincing when Trump is telling so many people who are at the bottom, who are first-generation Americans, who are trying to rise, that he has a different vision.

00:48:00.000 It's not a vision of opportunity, of mobility.

00:48:03.000 It's basically, increasingly, a vision of the privileges of a white ethnic bloc, who he is speaking to. 0.52

00:48:11.000 And if the Republican Party becomes essentially the white party,

00:48:15.000 It is going to be the death of it.

00:48:16.000 Not only for demographic reasons, but for reasons of principle.

00:48:20.000 The party of Lincoln is a party of opportunity for everyone.

00:48:24.000 It's a party about the right to rise.

00:48:26.000 And Mr. Trump, unfortunately, doesn't represent that view.

00:48:30.000 Can the Republican Party recapture that after his loss?

00:48:33.000 I think is the great question.

00:48:45.000 Here's where Stevens goes wrong, and at the very end he drops the line, right to rise.

00:48:48.000 Whose slogan was that?

00:48:49.000 Anybody remember?

00:48:50.000 That was Jeb Bush's slogan, right?

00:48:52.000 So Jeb Bush was one of the reasons why people reacted with alacrity to Donald Trump, because they felt like there's this Republican insider class that doesn't care about a lot of the grassroots issues.

00:49:01.000 The people that Sean Hannity is talking about, who are happy to cut a deal with the Democrats, who don't care that much about illegal immigration, are just looking for a way out of the issue, who are looking to increase illegal immigration in some cases, and who say that anybody who cares about this must be a xenophobe and a rube.

00:49:17.000 This sort of tension existed before Trump.

00:49:19.000 Trump was just the apotheosis of it.

00:49:21.000 The problem is that the answer from everybody seems to be, like, you've got Hannity blaming Stevens for Trump, and Trump and Stevens blaming Hannity for Trump.

00:49:29.000 The bottom line is that everyone picked the wrong vehicle.

00:49:32.000 Everybody picked the wrong vehicle.

00:49:33.000 Because the real Donald Trump is a man without core and a man without principle.

00:49:38.000 And that's going to bear fruit beyond this election.

00:49:41.000 I mentioned that this is sort of the Republican Dunkirk.

00:49:43.000 And it is.

00:49:44.000 Because the fact is that right now Donald Trump is not running first, second, or third among people under the age of 30.

00:49:48.000 He is running fourth among people under the age of 30.

00:49:51.000 He's now running at 9% behind Jill Stein and Gary Johnson.

00:49:55.000 That's a problem.

00:49:56.000 And it's a problem because those people are voting for the first time, many of them, and they're going to keep voting the way they vote this time.

00:50:02.000 And if you go out there and you stump for a guy like Donald Trump, regardless what your short-term reasons were, you do that, you break it, you bought it, and, you know, that's a problem.

00:50:11.000 I do think that it's worthwhile noting here, for all the people who keep insisting that Donald Trump is some sort of great conservative, there's a person who cut a five minute video, he won't play the whole thing, just going, just, no commentary, it's just Trump on all the issues, and you'll see, I mean, he has contradicted himself on legitimately every issue he's ever talked about.

00:50:32.000 I'm the only one on the stage that said we should not go into Iraq.

00:50:36.000 Are you for invading Iraq?

00:50:38.000 Yeah, I guess.

00:50:39.000 So, uh, you know, I wish it was, I wish the first time it was done correctly.

00:50:44.000 Is that an abortion? 1.00

00:50:46.000 I'm very pro-life.

00:50:47.000 I'm very pro-choice.

00:50:49.000 Do you believe in punishment for abortion, yes or no, as a principle?

00:50:52.000 There has to be some form of punishment.

00:50:54.000 I am pro-choice in every respect.

00:50:58.000 She has no natural talent to be president. 1.00

00:51:01.000 She's very talented and she has a husband that I also like very much.

00:51:05.000 Hillary Clinton was the worst Secretary of State in the history of the United States. 1.00

00:51:09.000 Hillary Clinton, how did she do as Secretary of State? 1.00

00:51:11.000 Probably above and beyond everybody else.

00:51:14.000 Let's say Hillary is president. 1.00

00:51:18.000 Hillary Clinton, I think, is a terrific woman. 0.96

00:51:20.000 I think she really works hard and I think she does a good job.

00:51:23.000 And I like her.

00:51:26.000 I will build the wall and Mexico is going to pay for it and they'll be happy to pay for it. 1.00

00:51:30.000 I'm not going to pay for that. 0.90

00:51:33.000 This guy used a filthy, disgusting word on television, and he should be ashamed of himself, and he should apologize, okay?

00:51:40.000 He's dropping the MF-er word.

00:51:46.000 Okay, so it goes on like this for five minutes.

00:51:47.000 I mean, it's five minutes of Trump flip-flopping all over the place.

00:51:50.000 The point here is not that Trump is worse than Hillary Clinton.

00:51:52.000 I don't think he is.

00:51:53.000 I think they're both horror shows, and you'll make the decision on how you want to vote yourself.

00:51:57.000 But if this was your solution to your anger at the Republican establishment, was to nominate a guy who five years ago, ten years ago, was legitimately saying he's more of a Democrat than a Republican on the issues, that was a major mistake by everybody.

00:52:09.000 Okay.

00:52:09.000 Time for Things I Like and Things I Hate.

00:52:11.000 So we're doing sci-fi movies today and this week on Things I Like.

00:52:14.000 So there's a movie that came out and it didn't do well at the box office because the ad campaign for it was really flawed.

00:52:21.000 People thought the name of the movie was Live, Die, Repeat.

00:52:23.000 It wasn't.

00:52:23.000 It's called Edge of Tomorrow.

00:52:25.000 This movie is terrific.

00:52:26.000 Really, really good sci-fi flick.

00:52:28.000 We'll play a little bit of the preview.

00:52:30.000 What I am about to tell you sounds crazy.

00:52:33.000 And you have to listen to me.

00:52:37.000 Your very lives depend on it.

00:52:41.000 Can I help you, sir?

00:52:43.000 What day is it?

00:52:44.000 For you?

00:52:45.000 Judgment Day.

00:52:46.000 You just came in with the fresh recruits.

00:52:49.000 Three seconds to drop!

00:52:54.000 Drop! 1.00

00:53:04.000 So basically, the premise of the film is that Tom Hanks, Tom Hanks, Tom Cruise, every time he dies in this film, he repeats the day.

00:53:13.000 But it's not just like a video game.

00:53:14.000 Like it actually has a plot.

00:53:15.000 It actually moves forward.

00:53:17.000 And it's in there's an alien invasion.

00:53:19.000 And for some reason, every time he dies, he wakes up and he gets to replay the day.

00:53:23.000 And so can he defeat the aliens?

00:53:26.000 And he's helped out by Emily Blunt, who's a wonderful actress.

00:53:29.000 The film is really, really first rate.

00:53:31.000 It's a really good it's actually moving.

00:53:32.000 It's a very, very good movie.

00:53:34.000 Thank you. 0.76

00:53:50.000 You see him turn from Jerry Maguire, kind of the self-centered jerk, into Jerry Maguire at the end of the film. 0.99

00:53:54.000 Tom Hanks is always best playing the self-centered jerk because, probably in real life, he's probably a self-centered jerk, so it makes perfect sense. 0.98

00:54:00.000 But he's very good in this film. 0.99

00:54:02.000 Okay, things that I hate.

00:54:03.000 So, you know, we keep hearing from the federal government, see something, say something.

00:54:07.000 Anytime you see something that makes you suspicious that somebody is involved with jihadism, then you have to report it.

00:54:13.000 Ahmed Mohamed, Clock Boy.

00:54:15.000 You remember Clock Boy?

00:54:16.000 He brought a clock to school that looked exactly like a bomb because it was actually just, he didn't invent a clock.

00:54:20.000 Everybody kept saying, nice clock, the White House tweeted out, nice clock, Ahmed.

00:54:25.000 Okay, he legitimately took like a 1980s style clock, took the back off the clock, put it in a pencil box so it looked like a bomb and brought it to school.

00:54:31.000 And then the people there said, hey, that looks like a bomb.

00:54:34.000 And the police came and they checked it out and they briefly detained him and then they let him go. 0.93

00:54:39.000 And the White House invited him and he got some sort of internship at Facebook over all this crap.

00:54:43.000 He didn't invent anything. 0.87

00:54:44.000 He didn't do anything.

00:54:45.000 First of all, the clock was invented a long time ago.

00:54:47.000 We don't need a new form of a clock.

00:54:48.000 But beyond that, he certainly didn't invent one.

00:54:51.000 And the White House made a big deal out of him.

00:54:53.000 The whole thing was a joke.

00:54:54.000 The whole thing was a joke.

00:54:56.000 And people said it was racial profiling.

00:54:57.000 It wasn't racial profiling.

00:54:58.000 If I brought a device to school that looked exactly like a bomb and they took me outside of class, it wouldn't be because I look like an Arab guy.

00:55:06.000 It would be because I brought a device to school that looks like a bomb.

00:55:09.000 People are being pulled out of class now for biting a Pop-Tart into the shape of a gun. 1.00

00:55:13.000 So that's a bunch of crap. 0.97

00:55:14.000 He's now suing his hometown for civil rights violations. 0.99

00:55:16.000 So if you think that people are going to keep reporting

00:55:20.000 You know, bad situations as they see them, a good way to prevent that is to keep ensuring that people like Ahmed Mohammed are treated as grand heroes.

00:55:28.000 Okay, final thing that I hate today.

00:55:31.000 So, this is just a horrifying story in every possible way.

00:55:34.000 A mother who is 36, and her son, who are 39, of New Mexico, they have now been, they're gonna be put on trial for incest.

00:55:45.000 They want to risk everything to be together.

00:55:48.000 Maris is a mother of nine, and she gave birth to Peterson when she was 16 years old.

00:55:53.000 Monica Maris and her son Caleb Peterson.

00:55:56.000 She gave birth to Peterson when she was 16 years old, who was adopted shortly afterward.

00:56:00.000 They were reunited for the first time last year after reconnecting over Facebook.

00:56:04.000 The couple live separately in Clovis, New Mexico, and they developed feelings for each other, and their relationship became sexual a few weeks later.

00:56:12.000 They've been banned from having any contact by the court.

00:56:16.000 Here's what they look like.

00:56:20.000 Do we have the pictures of them?

00:56:22.000 At first I told Carlos that I'm sorry, I don't know how you're going to react to this.

00:56:28.000 I'm your mom and you're my son.

00:56:29.000 And I'm falling in love with him.

00:56:32.000 He said, are you really?

00:56:33.000 I said, yes I am.

00:56:34.000 He said, you know what?

00:56:36.000 I was scared to let you know too, I am too.

00:56:39.000 He was too falling in love with me.

00:56:40.000 With his mom.

00:56:41.000 And I was falling in love with my son.

00:56:43.000 And then we ended up talking and we took off to the park.

00:56:47.000 And...

00:56:49.000 We ended up asking him, will you ever date your mom?

00:56:52.000 And he said, will you date your son?

00:56:53.000 I said, honest truth, yes, I would.

00:56:54.000 Because 19 years, you're the best thing that ever happened to me, and I really want to be with you the rest of my life.

00:57:01.000 And I really want to be with them.

00:57:03.000 It's kind of hard right now, but I don't care what people say.

00:57:06.000 What happened was we were hanging out and just talking, just laughing.

00:57:12.000 And I looked at her, and she looked at me, and I kissed her.

00:57:16.000 It was a real kiss.

00:57:19.000 It had feelings behind it.

00:57:21.000 It had a spark in that.

00:57:23.000 Ever since then, it just stayed.

00:57:25.000 Honestly, I really didn't think we would.

00:57:27.000 We were both consenting adults. 0.65

00:57:29.000 If it comes down to it, it's just like the gays. 1.00

00:57:35.000 As long as they're over 18, everything's fine. 1.00

00:57:37.000 But, you know, she's an adult.

00:57:38.000 I'm an adult.

00:57:38.000 I can make my own decisions.

00:57:40.000 I never thought it would blow up into something like this.

00:57:42.000 You can stop it here.

00:57:44.000 So, first of all, they're both gorgeous specimens, which is only relevant insofar as it's slightly hilarious.

00:57:50.000 Like, she's got a big face tattoo on the side of her face.

00:57:52.000 He's got tattoos down the side of his cheek.

00:57:54.000 It's just, it's glorious all the way through.

00:57:56.000 Here's the thing that is funny and ironic about all of this.

00:58:00.000 I mean, look at that beautiful couple.

00:58:01.000 I mean, that's just, the offspring will be tremendous.

00:58:04.000 Okay, so the reason that presumably, the reason that it is illegal to participate in incest is because of the possibility of bearing two-headed babies.

00:58:13.000 This is the usual reason that people give for why you should not have incest.

00:58:17.000 Okay, so the answer would be, okay, fine, she gets her tubes tied. 1.00

00:58:20.000 Right? 0.94

00:58:20.000 What he says, when he says it's just like the gays, this is actually not incorrect. 0.94

00:58:26.000 Not that they are morally similar, but if your only standard of a decent human sexual relationship is consent,

00:58:34.000 Then, your only standard is consent.

00:58:37.000 And you're just being a bigot. 0.98

00:58:39.000 What business is it of yours whether a son has sex with his mother? 0.85

00:58:42.000 What business is it of yours if he sees things from both directions? 0.90

00:58:48.000 Coming in and going out.

00:58:49.000 What is the difference?

00:58:52.000 Because that's just you being a bigot.

00:58:53.000 That's just you and your old-fashioned standards.

00:58:55.000 Because the truth is, the reason people oppose this is not because they fear two-headed babies.

00:58:59.000 It's because they look at this and they know deep down in their moral core that this is wrong.

00:59:04.000 And there is such a thing as the human conscience.

00:59:06.000 And people all over the world look at this and they say, this is wrong.

00:59:10.000 This is nasty.

00:59:11.000 This is problematic.

00:59:13.000 Right?

00:59:13.000 But does that just make you a bigot?

00:59:14.000 Watch.

00:59:15.000 It will.

00:59:15.000 Within five years, it'll make you a bigot.

00:59:17.000 Because if you say that, these are two consenting adults.

00:59:20.000 They're in love.

00:59:20.000 How dare you put your standards on their love?

00:59:25.000 How dare you do that?

00:59:27.000 And I'd love to see the Supreme Court's explanation of why, in fact, they shouldn't be able to get married.

00:59:33.000 Why should the government not confer dignity?

00:59:37.000 Why shouldn't they confer dignity on these two people?

00:59:41.000 Their only sin was to love each other.

00:59:45.000 And you have no good reasons.

00:59:46.000 I'm sorry you don't.

00:59:47.000 And by the way, it would be particularly true if it happened to be a father and a son.

00:59:50.000 Right?

00:59:50.000 Because then there's no possibility of them actually having kids.

00:59:53.000 So, it just demonstrates, once you get rid of the idea that there's more to the morality of sex than just consent,

01:00:01.000 That there is something about the relationship between a man and a woman that's special, for example, within the context of marriage.

01:00:07.000 Once you just say, two consenting adults do whatever they want, then incest rules should be thrown out the window as well. 1.00

01:00:13.000 And then there's no—really, I mean, that's the argument.

01:00:14.000 Not just they should be thrown out, they should be rewarded.

01:00:16.000 Why shouldn't the government confer dignity on their relationship?

01:00:19.000 I would love to hear any answers on this.

01:00:21.000 I still haven't heard a good answer, except that people who are of the left get very offended when you ask the question.

01:00:25.000 This I know.

01:00:26.000 They don't like the question very much, but that doesn't change the basic moral math here, which is if you say only consent matters, then only consent matters.

01:00:32.000 That's your only standard.

01:00:33.000 So, my email address for all complaints and rageful inquiries is bshapiro at dailywired.com, and if you have an answer to that question, if you're on the left or the right and you think you have a good answer, I'd love to hear it, because I'm open to any answers to that question, because I'm having a hard time seeing as to why there's an answer to that question.

01:00:49.000 Okay.

01:00:50.000 So, tomorrow we will be back with much, much more.

01:00:53.000 Tomorrow, I think, we do our weekly Bible study course for five minutes near the end.

01:00:58.000 But we will also, on Thursday, obviously, have the mailbag, and we want you to be a part of that, so you need to subscribe at dailywire.com to be a part of it.

01:01:06.000 And we're always so happy to have you join us here on The Ben Shapiro Show, the number one conservative podcast in America.

01:01:11.000 See you tomorrow.

The Ben Shapiro Show - August 09, 2016

Ep. 162 - Hillary Hearts Daddy Terrorist

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