The Ben Shapiro Show - Ep. 64 - Iowa Is Tonight. I Hate Everyone And Everything.

00:00:00.000 The day has come.

00:00:02.000 We have arrived.

00:00:03.000 The apocalypse is here, and we will talk about all of it.

00:00:06.000 I left on Friday hating the universe.

00:00:08.000 I come back hating the universe twice as much!

00:00:10.000 So there's so much to talk to.

00:00:12.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:00:12.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:21.000 So, here's the Republican presidential race in a nutshell.

00:00:24.000 We've got a guy who lies all the time against a guy who is for amnesty, and a Republican who's the most conservative person in the field who's now despised by the anti-establishment crowd because, for some reason, I don't know.

00:00:35.000 Also, on the Democratic side, we have a multiple felon against a man who is utterly out of his mind.

00:00:41.000 So,

00:00:42.000 Everything's going great.

00:00:43.000 The country's in fantastic hands.

00:00:44.000 And welcome back.

00:00:45.000 It's Monday.

00:00:46.000 We have a full work week ahead of us.

00:00:47.000 So if that doesn't put you in a good mood, I don't know what will.

00:00:51.000 We'll start with, of course, the Iowa caucuses.

00:00:53.000 We don't know what the outcome is as we record this.

00:00:57.000 Obviously, it could go late into the night.

00:00:59.000 The caucuses start at 7 o'clock.

00:01:02.000 Iowa time, which is two hours ahead of time and also in an alternative universe where corn and snow dominate the news.

00:01:08.000 But apparently it starts at 7 o'clock.

00:01:11.000 It usually takes them at least a couple of hours to do the whole process and then you start getting the vote counts.

00:01:15.000 It could be late.

00:01:16.000 It could be late tonight.

00:01:17.000 It could be 10, 11 o'clock tonight before we begin getting results out of Iowa.

00:01:20.000 But one thing is certain.

00:01:23.000 I am already depressed.

00:01:25.000 And the reason that I am already depressed

00:01:27.000 Is because how could my fellow conservatives do this to me?

00:01:32.000 Not to me, but to conservatism as a general matter.

00:01:35.000 I've been telling you for a week, a week, months, that Donald Trump is not a conservative.

00:01:40.000 But last week, as you remember, about this time last week, we did a full-on explanation of all the issues on which Donald Trump had flipped, and people went a little bit crazy.

00:01:48.000 People on Twitter said that I was

00:01:50.000 We're good.

00:02:08.000 And so, I come back the following Monday, and it turns out that the world is still insane.

00:02:13.000 It turns out that Donald Trump is officially telling people, officially telling people that he's lying to them, that he's actually a leftist, he's saying these things out loud, and all of his followers are still saying, not all, some of his followers are still saying, well he, you know, how dare you criticize him?

00:02:28.000 You criticize Trump?

00:02:29.000 That's terrible!

00:02:30.000 Donald Trump's the most, he's gonna save America!

00:02:32.000 He's gonna make America great again!

00:02:35.000 And,

00:02:36.000 He's not.

00:02:36.000 Okay?

00:02:37.000 He's just not.

00:02:38.000 He's gonna make Trump great again.

00:02:39.000 Trump is Trump.

00:02:40.000 But, as I've said for weeks, the only good reason to vote for Donald Trump is because you think that he is the most electable.

00:02:47.000 Now, thinking he's the most electable, I wanted to bunk one myth.

00:02:51.000 There is a poll out from Gallup that says that Donald Trump is the most disliked candidate in the history of their poll.

00:02:57.000 He has 60% unapproval rating.

00:03:01.000 An unpopularity rating of 60%.

00:03:02.000 I think only 32% of Americans say they like Trump.

00:03:06.000 52% of Americans say they dislike Hillary. 0.97

00:03:08.000 So Trump is officially the only Republican in the field with unpopularity higher than Hillary's.

00:03:12.000 I actually don't think that that's a particularly telling statistic because Trump has been hit with everything including the kitchen sink.

00:03:20.000 And I don't think that being unpopular necessarily means you don't win.

00:03:23.000 Hillary is unpopular and she's going to win the primaries and she's going to end up being the nominee. 1.00

00:03:27.000 So what's kind of fascinating is that people identify these two things.

00:03:31.000 There is a decent argument that Donald Trump is the most electable Republican simply because he's not really conservative.

00:03:37.000 He says whatever is convenient at the time.

00:03:39.000 He clocks people randomly.

00:03:41.000 All the things that people like about Trump.

00:03:42.000 That's actually a decent reason to vote for Donald Trump.

00:03:45.000 What is not a decent reason to vote for Donald Trump is if you think that Donald Trump is a conservative.

00:03:50.000 Donald Trump is not.

00:03:51.000 He is not.

00:03:51.000 I repeat, he is not a conservative.

00:03:54.000 Donald Trump is not a conservative.

00:03:56.000 So, I mean, he's flipped on every single issue.

00:03:58.000 He flipped on everything from immigration to abortion.

00:04:01.000 He flipped on everything from

00:04:05.000 From same-sex marriage to partial birth abortion, even flipped onto ISIS.

00:04:09.000 I mean, he's flipped on everything.

00:04:11.000 Everything that is possible to flip on, Donald Trump has basically flipped on.

00:04:15.000 And he is laughing.

00:04:17.000 He's laughing at Republicans who are voting for him right now. 0.55

00:04:20.000 And the way you can tell that he's laughing at these folks is because he knows that they're saps.

00:04:23.000 Okay, here's what he told the New York Times over the weekend.

00:04:25.000 You ready for this?

00:04:26.000 Here's what he told the New York Times, quote,

00:04:28.000 You know, if it gets a little boring, if I see people starting to sort of maybe thinking about leaving one of his rallies, I can sort of tell the audience I just say, quote,

00:04:40.000 So in other words, he doesn't necessarily believe any of this stuff, but he knows what keeps people in the room.

00:04:45.000 And he was doing the same routine over the weekend.

00:04:47.000 Donald Trump said over the weekend that he is going to end up winning Bernie Sanders supporters because he's going to appeal to them on trade, he's going to get Democrats to vote for him.

00:04:55.000 This is supposed to be the stalwart conservative that people are talking about?

00:05:00.000 Come on.

00:05:02.000 So in that way, we're the same.

00:05:03.000 I think a lot of his people are going to come over.

00:05:05.000 One of the reasons that I'll win, and I think none of the other guys will win, is because I'm going to get states that they'll never get.

00:05:11.000 I have a good chance of getting New York, as an example.

00:05:14.000 I have a good chance of getting Virginia.

00:05:16.000 I'll get Pennsylvania.

00:05:17.000 I'll get Ohio.

00:05:18.000 I'll get Michigan.

00:05:19.000 I'll get Florida.

00:05:21.000 You know, my numbers just came down.

00:05:22.000 I'm at 48.

00:05:24.000 The sitting senator is, I think, at 11 or 12, and a former governor is in the 8s.

00:05:30.000 But I think I'll win Florida and I'll win a lot of states.

00:05:33.000 And one of the reasons I'll win them, a lot of Democrats are going to cross over to me because they're tired of what's happening.

00:05:39.000 He says a lot of people are going to cross over and they're going to endorse him.

00:05:43.000 And then he said this.

00:05:44.000 OK, so that's the good reason to vote for Trump, because you think that he might win.

00:05:47.000 There's only one downside.

00:05:48.000 He'll actually be president if he wins.

00:05:50.000 So, you know, the fact is that he'll be better than Hillary Clinton, I assume, just because, again, 0.99

00:05:56.000 Pretty much anything, including a flaming bag of dog crap, would be better than Hillary Clinton in the presidency. 1.00

00:06:01.000 But, here's the problem with Donald Trump. 0.99

00:06:02.000 Here's what Donald Trump had to say, same weekend, about nationalized healthcare.

00:06:06.000 You ready?

00:06:07.000 At a rally.

00:06:07.000 You say that Ted Cruz is a liar, but you have said that you want everyone to be covered on healthcare, and the government's going to pay for it.

00:06:16.000 How is that not like Obamacare?

00:06:18.000 That's true.

00:06:19.000 I want people taken care of.

00:06:20.000 I have a heart.

00:06:21.000 I want people taken care of.

00:06:23.000 But people have no money.

00:06:24.000 We have to help people.

00:06:25.000 But that doesn't mean single payer.

00:06:28.000 It means we have to help people.

00:06:30.000 If somebody has no money and they're lying in the middle of the street...

00:06:34.000 And they're dying.

00:06:35.000 I'm going to take care of that person and try and get them back to health.

00:06:39.000 We're going to work with our hospitals.

00:06:40.000 We're going to work with our doctors.

00:06:42.000 We've got to do something.

00:06:43.000 You can't have a small percentage of our economy, because they're down and out, have absolutely no protection.

00:06:50.000 So they end up dying from, you know, what you could have a simple procedure or even a pill.

00:06:55.000 You can't do that.

00:06:56.000 We'll work something out.

00:06:57.000 That doesn't mean single payer.

00:06:59.000 And I mean, maybe he's got no heart.

00:07:01.000 And if this means I lose an election, that's fine.

00:07:04.000 Because frankly, we have to take care of the people in our country.

00:07:07.000 We can't let them die on the sidewalks of New York or the sidewalks of Iowa or anywhere else.

00:07:12.000 So, but that's not single-payer.

00:07:14.000 And as far as Obamacare is concerned, one of the staples of my speech, and you can ask any of my many supporters, is repeal and replace Obamacare.

00:07:22.000 It's a disaster.

00:07:23.000 The premiums are going up 25, 35, 45 percent, George.

00:07:28.000 I mean, you take a look at what's going on with Obamacare.

00:07:32.000 It's an outrage.

00:07:32.000 It's probably going to fail on its own unless the Republicans renew it like they have been in 17.

00:07:38.000 But by 17, Obamacare will fail on its own.

00:07:41.000 A whole staple of my campaign is repealing getting rid of Obamacare and replacing it.

00:07:55.000 Okay, so, there's Donald Trump saying, in approximately a minute, that he wants to, first of all, he drops a line there, he says, you have no heart if you don't want to help the people who are on the streets, dying on the streets.

00:08:07.000 First of all, I've missed where in America there are people who are dying on the streets for lack of healthcare.

00:08:11.000 They're sitting around and they're just keeling over, dying for lack of healthcare.

00:08:15.000 We have laws on the books already, that if you walk into an emergency room, the doctors have to take care of you.

00:08:19.000 That's already on the books.

00:08:21.000 But he says all this stuff, and then he's asked, okay, specifically, what do you mean when you say the government will pay for it?

00:08:25.000 He says, yeah, I mean that.

00:08:26.000 He says, well, how is that not nationalized healthcare?

00:08:28.000 He says, don't worry, we'll work something out.

00:08:30.000 We'll work something out?

00:08:32.000 We'll work something out?

00:08:33.000 This is the guy who you're claiming is gonna be the conservative?

00:08:36.000 This guy?

00:08:37.000 We'll work something out on national- But don't worry, he's against Obamacare.

00:08:42.000 But he's for government paying for healthcare.

00:08:45.000 But he's gonna work something out.

00:08:47.000 But he's not for nationalized healthcare.

00:08:50.000 For you to buy into this.

00:08:51.000 For you to buy into his routine.

00:08:53.000 And again, there's a difference between the cynical take on Trump that he's the most electable, which people said about Romney and people said about McCain.

00:08:59.000 There's a difference between that take and the take that Trump is actually a conservative who is going to implement conservative principle.

00:09:05.000 There is no evidence he's going to do that.

00:09:07.000 None.

00:09:08.000 Zero.

00:09:09.000 Zip.

00:09:09.000 Zilch.

00:09:10.000 Nada.

00:09:10.000 None.

00:09:11.000 Okay?

00:09:11.000 The idea—you can watch that.

00:09:13.000 Can you imagine any—Rick Perry, in 2012, lost his presidential bid not over the oops moment.

00:09:19.000 Go back and look at the polls.

00:09:20.000 Rick Perry, the governor of Texas, who was probably the most qualified guy in the field at the time,

00:09:24.000 Rick Perry in 2012 lost the nomination because in debate he said that he wanted to spend taxpayer dollars to send the children of illegal immigrants and illegal immigrants to public college.

00:09:36.000 He said this is the dreamers program.

00:09:38.000 He wanted the dream program to be in place and he said if you disagreed it was because you had no heart.

00:09:43.000 Donald Trump just said that if you don't believe that it's the government's job to take care of everybody's health care you have no heart and nothing is happening to him.

00:09:52.000 You know, this is not endemic to the right.

00:09:53.000 It's true to the left also.

00:09:54.000 We've reached the point in American politics where worship of particular personalities is so strong, so powerful, that principle no longer matters.

00:10:03.000 And they've taken polls on this.

00:10:04.000 They've taken polls.

00:10:05.000 They say, okay, Barack Obama...

00:10:07.000 He wants to make healthcare affordable through state exchanges.

00:10:11.000 Are you in favor of this?

00:10:12.000 Yes or no?

00:10:13.000 And a majority of Republicans, vast majority, say no.

00:10:15.000 Then they say, Donald Trump wants to make healthcare affordable through state exchanges sponsored by the federal government.

00:10:21.000 Are you for it or no?

00:10:22.000 Majority of Republicans, yes.

00:10:24.000 This suggests that you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

00:10:28.000 It suggests that you don't have a clue.

00:10:30.000 It suggests that you're basing your opinions on thought leaders.

00:10:34.000 If Donald Trump is your thought leader, the man doesn't have a thought.

00:10:37.000 So how can he be a thought leader?

00:10:39.000 He's just a me leader.

00:10:40.000 So what you're really doing is you're just following Donald Trump because you follow Donald Trump.

00:10:43.000 Again, there are good reasons to vote for Donald Trump.

00:10:46.000 His policies are not one of them.

00:10:48.000 And Donald Trump doubled down on this over the weekend.

00:10:50.000 He said Senator Ted Cruz is the most consistent conservative in the race.

00:10:52.000 You don't have to like Cruz personally.

00:10:54.000 You don't have to think that Cruz is charming.

00:10:56.000 You don't have to think that Cruz is a great campaigner.

00:10:58.000 I think Cruz has significant flaws as a candidate, but there's no question he's the most conservative guy in the race.

00:11:03.000 Here is Donald Trump calling Ted Cruz a liar. 0.99

00:11:06.000 Ted Cruz is the liar. 0.99

00:11:08.000 Donald Trump calling Ted Cruz a liar. 1.00

00:11:11.000 Donald Trump calling Ted Cruz a liar. 0.86

00:11:14.000 Here we go.

00:11:15.000 On that Obamacare issue right there, he's saying because you want the government to pay for everyone to have health care, that is just like Obamacare. 0.99

00:11:25.000 Look, Ted Cruz is a total liar.

00:11:27.000 I am so against Obamacare, I've been saying it for two years in my speeches, I'm going to repeal and replace Obamacare. 1.00

00:11:34.000 I don't even know where he gets this, but he's a liar.

00:11:37.000 He didn't even put down in his financial disclosure forms that he borrowed money from banks 0.61

00:11:42.000 At low interest loans, lower than you could get, lower than anybody could get.

00:11:46.000 He's got these favorable deals from banks on Wall Street.

00:11:48.000 He never put it down in his financial disclosure forms. 0.99

00:11:51.000 I mean, look, Ted is a liar. 0.99

00:11:53.000 This is why nobody likes him. 0.99

00:11:54.000 This is why he doesn't have one endorsement from one senator, not one.

00:12:00.000 He works with these senators, doesn't have one endorsement.

00:12:02.000 Okay, the reason that he has no endorsements is because all of the senators are willing to work with each other on the Senate floor and Ted Cruz is not willing to do that.

00:12:10.000 The idea that they're not endorsing him because they somehow oppose Goldman Sachs, the idea that Donald Trump opposes Goldman Sachs is absurd.

00:12:16.000 Donald Trump is as inside a Wall Street guy as it is possible to be.

00:12:20.000 Where do you think he gets his loans?

00:12:21.000 Where do you think he gets his bridge loans?

00:12:23.000 Where do you think he gets his mezzanine loans to build his stuff?

00:12:25.000 You think he's got all that money just sitting around?

00:12:27.000 He takes loans to do all of these things.

00:12:29.000 So did Ted Cruz.

00:12:31.000 You may not like Ted Cruz loans, but you want to talk about a liar? 0.99

00:12:34.000 Let's talk about a liar. 1.00

00:12:34.000 Donald Trump... I'm a religious person. 1.00

00:12:38.000 Donald Trump, he, over the weekend, decided that he was going to send a message to evangelicals.

00:12:45.000 Here's Donald Trump sending his message to evangelicals.

00:12:52.000 I really appreciate the support given to me by the evangelicals.

00:12:56.000 They've been incredible.

00:12:57.000 Every poll says how well I'm doing with them.

00:13:00.000 And you know, my mother gave me this Bible, this very Bible, many years ago.

00:13:06.000 In fact, it's her writing right here.

00:13:09.000 She wrote the name and my address, and it's just very special to me.

00:13:13.000 And again, I want to thank the evangelicals.

00:13:17.000 I will never let you down.

00:13:22.000 You have got to be kidding me.

00:13:26.000 You've got to be effing kidding me. 1.00

00:13:28.000 Honest to God, this is- How stupid does he think- I mean, apparently they are, but how stupid do you have to be to buy into this crap? 1.00

00:13:37.000 I mean, honestly, if you were reading the Bible on an irregular basis, you might take a look at, like, the Seventh Commandment. 1.00

00:13:42.000 You know, the one about adultery?

00:13:43.000 You might try that one.

00:13:45.000 But Donald Trump- Okay, Donald- 0.97

00:13:47.000 Donald Trump is such a panderer. 0.98

00:13:49.000 He is lying to you. 0.98

00:13:50.000 He's telling you what you want to hear.

00:13:52.000 In the latest poll out of Iowa, he's running neck and neck with Ted Cruz among evangelicals.

00:13:58.000 Here's what people miss.

00:14:00.000 He's so pandering.

00:14:02.000 The two Corinthians thing.

00:14:03.000 You remember a few weeks ago, people made a big deal because he said in a speech that he made a reference to 2 Corinthians.

00:14:11.000 And he called it 2 Corinthians, like 2 Corinthians walk into a bar.

00:14:14.000 Or like, I just bought 2 Corinthian sofas, right?

00:14:17.000 2 Corinthians.

00:14:18.000 And then he proceeded to blame Tony Perkins.

00:14:20.000 He's an actual religious guy, because Tony Perkins sent him a letter saying, here's a verse from Corinthians, 2 Corinthians 3.17, right?

00:14:29.000 And it said 2 Corinthians 3.17.

00:14:32.000 And Trump blamed Perkins.

00:14:33.000 He said, well, he didn't write 2 Corinthians. 1.00

00:14:35.000 Right, because this is how you notate the Bible, you dumbass. 0.99

00:14:39.000 Okay, honest to God, when I quote the book of Samuel, it's Samuel 2. 0.99

00:14:43.000 Okay, there are two books of Samuel.

00:14:46.000 There's the first one and the second one.

00:14:48.000 It's not called 2 Samuel.

00:14:51.000 But that's not even the problem.

00:14:52.000 That's not even the problem.

00:14:52.000 Okay, so he screws that up.

00:14:53.000 Fine.

00:14:55.000 And then he pretended that his mother used to teach him that way.

00:14:57.000 Oh, she was from Scotland.

00:14:58.000 And oh, in bonnet Scotland, you know where I'm from in Scotland, they used to say two Corinthians, not second Corinthians.

00:15:06.000 From his long history of

00:15:08.000 Being part of William Wallace's army.

00:15:11.000 But the part of the quote that people missed is what he continued to say.

00:15:14.000 He said two Corinthians, right?

00:15:15.000 Two Corinthians, 317.

00:15:16.000 That's the whole ballgame.

00:15:18.000 Is that the one?

00:15:19.000 Is that the one you like?

00:15:19.000 I think that's the one you like.

00:15:23.000 What?

00:15:24.000 Okay, so he's clearly saying to religious people, I don't know this verse, I have no idea what this verse is, but that's the one you like, right?

00:15:30.000 Come on, it's the one you like!

00:15:31.000 I mean, you know it, you like it, come on!

00:15:34.000 Right, and he does this all the time.

00:15:36.000 He said, today, again, he said, if I'm president, you're gonna see Merry Christmas in department stores.

00:15:40.000 Believe me, believe me.

00:15:42.000 Really, how?

00:15:43.000 You can use executive order.

00:15:44.000 Is that how this magically works?

00:15:46.000 You're gonna see Merry Christmas.

00:15:48.000 If I become president, Jesus Christ will descend from the sky in my person.

00:15:53.000 If you believe this stuff, I mean, this is quasi-religious gobbledygook.

00:15:57.000 And it's very upsetting.

00:15:58.000 Again, for the ninth time this particular episode, there are reasons to back Trump. 0.83

00:16:03.000 But don't pretend he's anything else than a conman. 0.97

00:16:05.000 You can say we need a conman, that's okay. 1.00

00:16:08.000 But the man's a conman. 0.89

00:16:09.000 He's Professor Harold Hill in Iowa trying to sell tubas.

00:16:13.000 Okay, here's how much so.

00:16:15.000 So yesterday, he goes to First Christian Church in Council Bluffs, Iowa.

00:16:19.000 Well, first, before we get to that, last week at his rally that he held at the same time as the debate, at the very end, he turns to his daughter, his daughter Ivanka, and he says, Ivanka over here, Ivanka, she's pregnant, and I want her to come back here and give birth in Iowa.

00:16:34.000 In fact, I wish you would give birth right now, I'd win Iowa. 1.00

00:16:39.000 If you vote for him because of this stuff,

00:16:43.000 What?

00:16:44.000 What?

00:16:44.000 Okay, so anyway, he was at First Christian Church in Council Bluffs, Iowa, yesterday.

00:16:49.000 It was a Sunday, and Donald Trump, as we know, is a very religious man.

00:16:53.000 And so Donald Trump goes to church, and they're passing around the communion plates, okay?

00:16:59.000 I'm a Jew.

00:16:59.000 I figure that if there's a plate with little wafers on it, it's a communion plate, right?

00:17:03.000 Am I right here?

00:17:04.000 Okay, it's a communion plate.

00:17:05.000 Trump sees the communion plate.

00:17:07.000 Seriously, he did this.

00:17:08.000 Well, it's possible that Trump doesn't actually know that much about communion, because here's what he told CNN a few months ago about communion, quote,

00:17:28.000 When I drink my little wine, which is about the only wine I drink, and have my little cracker, I guess that's a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed.

00:17:39.000 I think in terms of, let's go on, let's make it right.

00:17:43.000 When I drink my little wine, and have my little cracker,

00:17:47.000 Okay, everybody in this room, except for me, does this.

00:17:50.000 Right?

00:17:50.000 Okay.

00:17:51.000 Have you ever described it as drink my little wine, have my little- it sounds like a Frank Sinatra song.

00:17:55.000 Drink my little wine, have my little cracker.

00:17:57.000 Like, what?

00:17:58.000 And yet people are buying into this.

00:18:00.000 And people are buying into the idea that he's anti-establishment.

00:18:03.000 The guy who just came out for national healthcare yesterday, but said he's not for it because he's against Obamacare, but he's for national healthcare.

00:18:09.000 And then proceeded to drop all of this language about Christianity and call Ted Cruz a liar, all of this.

00:18:15.000 He says he's going to stand up against the establishment.

00:18:18.000 Okay, yesterday, Bob Dole was on the radio.

00:18:21.000 Well, I won the caucuses twice, and

00:18:50.000 I still have a lot of friends in Iowa.

00:18:52.000 They've gotten a little older, but I still have a lot of friends.

00:18:57.000 I'm a conservative.

00:18:58.000 As I said, I'm a Grassley-Earths conservative.

00:19:08.000 During my 28-plus years in the Senate, I had a strong conservative record.

00:19:17.000 But that's not good enough for Ted Cruz.

00:19:19.000 He wants us to be on the far, far right.

00:19:25.000 And there are some people out there.

00:19:29.000 But what's he gonna do if he's elected?

00:19:31.000 He's gonna cost us wholesale losses, and the Congress, and governors, and state legislators.

00:19:38.000 But how do you know?

00:19:39.000 How do you know?

00:19:40.000 One of the things that he brought up is,

00:19:45.000 Bob Dole really prefer a Donald Trump to me, that he thinks I will be more disrupted than a Donald Trump?

00:19:53.000 You say what?

00:19:56.000 Well, I'm a, again, I want to reiterate, my candidate is the best qualified in the group, Jeb Bush.

00:20:03.000 But if it comes down to Trump and Cruz, I would vote for Trump.

00:20:11.000 I think he's a negotiator.

00:20:14.000 He knows many members of Congress.

00:20:18.000 In fact, he's contributed to Democrats and Republicans.

00:20:23.000 He's worked for Democrats and Republicans more than I can say for Ted Cruz, who's a lone ranger in the Senate.

00:20:33.000 His way or the highway or shut down the government certainly doesn't do anyone any good and cost billions of dollars.

00:20:43.000 There's a lot of good federal workers out of work.

00:20:47.000 They just are weak.

00:20:49.000 Okay, I'm glad we reached the end of the tape because we're all going to die of boredom, which is why we were actually going to perish before Bob Dole, which would have been a shock since no one in this room is above the age of 40.

00:20:59.000 So it's, in any case, there's Bob Dole endorsing Donald Trump and endorsing him specifically because Cruz is too extreme and Donald Trump will work with the establishment.

00:21:08.000 You getting all this, folks?

00:21:09.000 Donald Trump, your anti-establishment champion.

00:21:11.000 The guy's gonna go in there like a bear in a china shop, a bull in a china shop. 0.88

00:21:15.000 He's gonna break things!

00:21:17.000 He's gonna make America great again by saying stuff and making deals!

00:21:22.000 Bob Dole just said, he's my kind of guy.

00:21:25.000 Bob Dole.

00:21:27.000 Bob Dole.

00:21:28.000 Bob Dole.

00:21:29.000 He's like Matt Damon.

00:21:31.000 Matt Damon.

00:21:32.000 Bob Dole.

00:21:33.000 Okay, so.

00:21:34.000 All of this is to say, again, vote for who you want to vote for.

00:21:37.000 But please, for the love of God, would you please take a look at who the people are that you are voting for?

00:21:44.000 The slavish worship of any candidate is bad. 0.99

00:21:46.000 I mean, I've spent time on this program.

00:21:48.000 I've spent time on every program I've ever done saying that Ted Cruz is the guy who I like in these primaries.

00:21:53.000 Ted Cruz is not an ideal candidate.

00:21:54.000 Ted Cruz has lots of holes as a candidate.

00:21:56.000 He's got lots of problems as a candidate.

00:21:57.000 But I understand where those holes and problems are.

00:22:00.000 What I can't deal with is the dishonesty of people who are pretending that Donald Trump is going to get in there and somehow be any sort of conservative.

00:22:07.000 He isn't.

00:22:08.000 He just isn't.

00:22:09.000 In a minute I'm going to talk about, you know, questions that I have for these various campaigns.

00:22:14.000 But I just wanted to go through that because I think it's important for people to understand why it is that Donald Trump is not who you say that he is.

00:22:22.000 He's not who you say... Now, here's the case for Trump.

00:22:25.000 You ready?

00:22:26.000 Here's the case for Trump. 0.99

00:22:26.000 Here's my even-handedness after spending 20 minutes here bashing the living crap out of Donald Trump. 0.99

00:22:30.000 Here's my case for even-handedness. 0.97

00:22:32.000 Here's Donald Trump on with CBS's John Dickerson.

00:22:35.000 And here's Donald Trump being asked about his Twitter feed.

00:22:39.000 But there's a lot of drama around your campaign.

00:22:41.000 You're occasionally in Twitter wars.

00:22:43.000 Is that presidential?

00:22:44.000 Do you think these Twitter back-and-forth fights?

00:22:46.000 Well, I'm in Twitter wars before really I was a politician, and now I'm carrying it out.

00:22:49.000 Don't forget, I started out with 17 people, including myself.

00:22:53.000 Now a lot of them are dropping out, and many more will be dropping out, and we'll get it down to a normal number.

00:22:58.000 But I was being barraged from all different sides.

00:23:00.000 Having Twitter is great.

00:23:01.000 And between Facebook and Twitter and Instagram, I have 12 million people, more than 12 million people.

00:23:06.000 So it is a great way of getting the word out.

00:23:09.000 But certainly, I mean, look, I went to great schools.

00:23:12.000 I was a good student, all of that stuff.

00:23:14.000 I'm very capable of slowing down Twitter or doing whatever I want to do.

00:23:18.000 But Twitter is actually, I found it to be, and Facebook, a wonderful modern way of communicating.

00:23:25.000 Okay, so here's the upside for Trump, right?

00:23:27.000 The upside for Trump is he understands how the media work.

00:23:30.000 And when he's asked about Twitter wars or whatever, he sort of brushes it off because he understands that most people who are watching don't care whether he says things on Twitter.

00:23:37.000 And the other case, the case for Trump is really not the case for Trump.

00:23:40.000 The case for Trump is the case against the media.

00:23:43.000 So today, Matt Lauer, who's legitimately a left-wing kook, he had on Sarah Palin.

00:23:49.000 And Sarah Palin, we've said, Sarah Palin made a mistake in endorsing Donald Trump.

00:23:53.000 She sold out conservatism in endorsing Donald Trump.

00:23:56.000 But she was on with Matt Lauer, and on the Today Show, and Savannah Guthrie, and it completely derailed.

00:24:02.000 And here is what it looked like when it derailed.

00:24:05.000 I want to ask you about something you mentioned on the campaign trail, which is the Arrest of Your Son track.

00:24:10.000 And you talked about it, and then you mentioned PTSD.

00:24:13.000 And you said that President Obama may be to blame for some of the PTSD that's out there.

00:24:18.000 I never said that.

00:24:19.000 Let's take it piece by piece.

00:24:20.000 What exactly did you mean?

00:24:22.000 Let's start piece by piece by you guys brought me here to talk about Iowa politics and the caucus tonight, not to talk about my kids.

00:24:30.000 And that was a

00:24:31.000 Promise!

00:24:32.000 But, um, as things go in the world of media, you guys don't always keep your promises, evidently.

00:24:37.000 I never blamed President Obama.

00:24:39.000 What I have blamed President Obama in doing, though... Will you stop it there?

00:24:42.000 Because the rest is not relevant.

00:24:43.000 The part that's important here is the case for Trump is the case against the media.

00:24:47.000 Here's what's happened.

00:24:48.000 Republicans, conservatives, despise the media.

00:24:50.000 And we despise them for a great reason. 1.00

00:24:52.000 They are liars, and they are leftists, and they sandbag people with stupid garbage like this. 1.00

00:24:57.000 Right? 1.00

00:24:57.000 And so we look at them and we say, okay, you won't ask Hillary Clinton about calling Republicans enemies, but you'll ask Donald Trump about getting in Twitter fights with people. 1.00

00:25:04.000 Right?

00:25:05.000 You won't ask Hillary Clinton about being- I mean, Hillary Clinton was on the Today Show this morning, by the way, and got this many questions.

00:25:10.000 Zero.

00:25:11.000 She got this many questions about her email scandal, which, by the way, is blowing up, as I'll mention in a moment.

00:25:17.000 It won't matter, by the way, that she has an email scandal that's blowing up because she's Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:25:21.000 She's never going to jail.

00:25:22.000 It doesn't matter what she does. 0.98

00:25:23.000 She could murder a baby, and she would stand there and grin, and the cameras would pretend she's fine. 1.00

00:25:28.000 But the point is this. 0.95

00:25:29.000 The media that have been attacking Trump are the same media who have been pushing the notion that Trump is... The same people who have been attacking Trump have been attacking conservatives for years.

00:25:41.000 So they lost all credibility.

00:25:43.000 All credibility was basically shredded.

00:25:45.000 So when they attack Trump, then we look around and we go, well, that doesn't make any difference to us.

00:25:50.000 You know, we don't trust you guys.

00:25:52.000 We don't trust you in any way, shape, or form.

00:25:54.000 And that's been the problem because some of their critiques of Trump are true.

00:25:57.000 Some of their critiques of Palin are true. 0.97

00:25:59.000 But when you lump that in with the rest of their garbage, you have to take everything as false. 0.96

00:26:04.000 And so that's been the case for Trump. 0.93

00:26:05.000 The case for Trump is really the case against the media.

00:26:07.000 It's not even the case against the left.

00:26:09.000 It's not even the case against the Republican establishment.

00:26:11.000 It's the case against the media.

00:26:13.000 Okay, now meanwhile, the two guys who continue to battle it out in Iowa are Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz.

00:26:18.000 So, Marco Rubio has been setting himself up in pretty good position for Iowa.

00:26:24.000 Basically, obviously we're taping this before the caucuses take place tonight.

00:26:30.000 The narrative sort of goes like this, and this is the problem for Cruz in terms of the narrative.

00:26:34.000 There really is a problem for Ted Cruz in terms of the narrative.

00:26:36.000 Ted Cruz set it up so that people think he's going to win Iowa, and that if he doesn't win Iowa, he's in serious trouble.

00:26:42.000 So, there are a few different scenarios that happen tonight.

00:26:44.000 One, Cruz narrowly beats Trump, and Rubio finishes a strong third.

00:26:48.000 So, let's say that it's Cruz 30, Trump 28, Marco Rubio 23.

00:26:53.000 Right?

00:26:54.000 If that's the case, the narrative is actually going to be Rubio surging, not Cruz winning, because everybody has assumed that Cruz is going to be strong.

00:27:00.000 So it's a narrative win for Rubio.

00:27:02.000 Second scenario, Cruz narrowly beats Trump, Rubio finishes a distant third.

00:27:06.000 Then, the media will probably hold up their verdict on Trump until New Hampshire, before declaring Cruz the outright victor.

00:27:12.000 Because Trump still has a massive lead in New Hampshire, and Cruz is really trailing in New Hampshire.

00:27:16.000 So they'll say, good win for Ted Cruz, but Trump is still a factor.

00:27:19.000 Let's say Cruz blows out both of them.

00:27:21.000 Well, if he blows out both of them, then it's a clear win for Cruz.

00:27:24.000 But that's unlikely.

00:27:25.000 That's unlikely.

00:27:27.000 Let's say that Cruz blows out Trump, and Rubio finishes a strong third.

00:27:30.000 Well, then all three are roughly equal, because going into New Hampshire, Trump still has a lead.

00:27:34.000 Now Rubio is strong, and now Cruz is strong.

00:27:36.000 So it's a three-man race.

00:27:38.000 Finally, let's say that Trump wins.

00:27:40.000 Either way that Trump wins, it's a problem for Cruz, right?

00:27:43.000 So the media narrative, there's really only one scenario in which Cruz gets a clear win, and that's if he blows out everybody.

00:27:49.000 But if he blows out Trump and Rubio rises, then one of the narratives will be the rise of Rubio, because this is the way the media have set it up.

00:27:56.000 The game of expectations is just as important as what actually happens in Iowa.

00:28:03.000 So that's a problem.

00:28:04.000 We're good to go.

00:28:15.000 Well, we've always felt great about our campaign here, and we continue to feel that it's growing in our support.

00:28:20.000 We'll see what it leads to on Monday night.

00:28:22.000 I mean, Ted Cruz is clearly the frontrunner going into the night.

00:28:25.000 He has 10,000 volunteers on the ground.

00:28:28.000 He's spent an exorbitant amount of time here, tremendous amount of time here, and has gotten every endorsement he wanted.

00:28:33.000 So we know it's a tough hill to climb, but we feel very good about our campaign and very positive about what it means going into New Hampshire.

00:28:39.000 We'll be leaving as soon as the caucus is over, and we'll be in New Hampshire early Tuesday morning ready to work.

00:28:45.000 So you can see, Rubio is already looking forward to this, because he doesn't have to do that well.

00:28:49.000 If Rubio finishes anywhere higher than the mid-teens, it's a big win for Marco Rubio.

00:28:54.000 Okay, and then there's Ted Cruz, who's still trying to defeat both Trump and knock down Rubio.

00:28:58.000 So here's Ted Cruz talking about Trump.

00:29:02.000 Why did you suddenly stop going after Trump on paid ads and going after, in your campaign, attacking Marco Rubio?

00:29:07.000 How concerned are you about Senator Rubio catching you here in Iowa?

00:29:10.000 Listen, we are drawing contrast.

00:29:12.000 Both Trump and Marco are attacking me.

00:29:14.000 They're attacking me with all their might.

00:29:17.000 And we're drawing contrasts.

00:29:18.000 And the contrasts are clear.

00:29:19.000 And the contrasts, by the way, are substantive and policy-based.

00:29:23.000 A vote for Marco Rubio is a vote for amnesty.

00:29:26.000 And a vote for Donald Trump is a vote for Obamacare.

00:29:29.000 If you look at their positions, Marco Rubio, right now as a presidential candidate, is advocating amnesty, advocating citizenship for 12 million people here illegally.

00:29:38.000 And Donald Trump, right now as a candidate,

00:29:41.000 is advocating full-on expanding Obamacare to make it socialized medicine.

00:29:46.000 Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders have the identical position on health care, which is they want to put the government in charge of you and your doctor.

00:29:54.000 Now my views are polar opposites of both of those.

00:29:58.000 If I'm elected, there will be no amnesty.

00:30:00.000 We will secure the border.

00:30:01.000 And if I'm elected, we will repeal every word of Obamacare.

00:30:04.000 So that gives a clear and simple choice for the voters.

00:30:08.000 Okay, and Cruz is exactly right here, but the problem is he's a little bit squeezed.

00:30:11.000 The establishment wants Rubio, and the media desperately want Trump.

00:30:16.000 60% of all media coverage this month went to Trump.

00:30:19.000 60% of all media coverage went to Donald Trump.

00:30:21.000 The other person who benefits from that, of course, is Hillary Clinton. 0.96

00:30:24.000 Hillary Clinton did an interview with George Stephanopoulos over the weekend, and the fact that George Stephanopoulos interviews Hillary Clinton, I mean, honestly, that's like me interviewing my wife.

00:30:34.000 Okay, George Stephanopoulos interviewing Hillary Clinton.

00:30:36.000 And Clavin has read about this, talked about this on his podcast, that in George Stephanopoulos' autobiography, after the 92 election, he and Hillary saw each other backstage and had a moment together in which Hillary looked at George and said, I love you, George.

00:30:50.000 And he looked back at her with tears in his eyes and said, I love you too, Hillary.

00:30:54.000 And now he's interviewing her on national television while she runs for president.

00:30:58.000 And all of the Trump and Cruz and Rubio, all of the Trump really, is obscuring the fact that the Democratic presidential frontrunner is not just a felon, she's a multiple felon.

00:31:09.000 Okay, she is, by putting all of this classified information on her server, which was attached to the World Wide Web, which means it was hackable, which means everybody saw it.

00:31:16.000 I mean, they're now saying today that there was information on that server that could have gotten people killed, but Hillary Clinton is still saying it's a vast right-wing conspiracy.

00:31:23.000 Here she is.

00:31:26.000 He has to run his campaign.

00:31:28.000 He has to present his views.

00:31:30.000 We have differences, and I've been pointing out those differences.

00:31:33.000 I think that it's important for me to tell voters what I want to achieve and how I will go about doing that because I want them to hold me accountable.

00:31:42.000 And then it's going to be up to caucus-goers tonight, primary voters next in New Hampshire, to decide who they think offers the best path forward to keep the progress that we've made going.

00:31:56.000 Hillary Clinton is saying that as these revelations leak out.

00:32:00.000 And what does Hillary really think about this? 1.00

00:32:02.000 Well, she thinks nobody cares is the reality.

00:32:04.000 So here is Hillary explaining voters don't really care about any of this. 1.00

00:32:09.000 But Secretary Clinton, something does seem to be happening with this investigation, or at least the FBI seems to be talking about it more, because in the past week, several media outlets have said that their sources in the FBI say, quote, something's going to happen.

00:32:26.000 What does that mean to you?

00:32:30.000 It means that people are selectively leaking and making comments that have no basis in anything I am aware of.

00:32:39.000 And, you know, I regret that that seems to be part of the atmosphere because we need to, you know, let this inquiry run its course, get it resolved.

00:32:49.000 But I can tell you, Alison, that is not on the minds of the literally thousands of people that I have seen the last few weeks.

00:32:55.000 And I'm glad it isn't, because the facts are the facts.

00:33:00.000 And no matter how much selective leaking or anonymous sourcing and all that kind of stuff that goes on, what people want to know is what I can do to be the best possible president for them and their families.

00:33:11.000 And I've been thrilled.

00:33:12.000 Nobody really cares.

00:33:13.000 Nobody really cares.

00:33:13.000 That's what she's saying.

00:33:14.000 Bernie Sanders has decided that he cares now.

00:33:15.000 Here's Bernie Sanders saying that Hillary's candidacy has a problem with all these emails. 0.99

00:33:20.000 I'm old enough to remember a time when Bernie Sanders was saying that he didn't care about her damn emails! 1.00

00:33:41.000 Well, it turns out, like two days before the caucuses, he sort of cares about her damn emails. 1.00

00:33:44.000 Here's Bernie Sanders, that crazy old kookaloo. 0.99

00:33:46.000 And you don't think you're going to be a problem for House Democrats who don't want to run on raising taxes? 0.93

00:33:51.000 No, I think, in fact, Hillary Clinton will be the problem. 1.00

00:33:56.000 Because I think our campaign is the campaign that is generating excitement and energy that will result in a high voter turnout.

00:34:04.000 Republicans win when voter turnout is low.

00:34:07.000 Democrats win when voter turnout is high.

00:34:10.000 I think our campaign is raising the issue about

00:34:13.000 A rigged economy, a corrupt campaign finance system.

00:34:17.000 Secretary Clinton yesterday just announced, I suppose with pride, that her super PAC brought in $50 million.

00:34:23.000 I don't have a super PAC.

00:34:24.000 Our average contribution is $27.

00:34:26.000 And Bernie Sanders is now going after her.

00:34:30.000 But here's the truth.

00:34:30.000 Sanders is wrong and Hillary is right.

00:34:32.000 Voters don't care.

00:34:33.000 This is the part that's dispiriting.

00:34:34.000 I started off by saying this is a really, really dispiriting time politically.

00:34:38.000 It's dispiriting because you have people on the one side, on the Democrat side, who are looking at Hillary.

00:34:43.000 And they're saying, I don't care if she's a criminal. 0.99

00:34:45.000 I don't care if she's a felon. 1.00

00:34:46.000 It doesn't matter to me if she's a liar. 0.97

00:34:48.000 None of this matters. 0.95

00:34:49.000 Because Hillary is Hillary.

00:34:50.000 And there are people on the Trump side who are doing the same thing.

00:34:53.000 You're not supposed to worship at the altar of human beings, and it's very upsetting to me when I see that happen, particularly on the right.

00:34:59.000 The good news, however, is that Chris Matthews is feeling butterflies.

00:35:03.000 We have to keep sort of track of Chris Matthews' physical response to campaigns.

00:35:07.000 Remember that he had a tingle up his leg about President Obama.

00:35:10.000 Now he's feeling butterflies in his tummy over Hillary Clinton.

00:35:12.000 Let's do it.

00:35:15.000 Well, I have to start by saying I feel butterflies out here in the locker room.

00:35:20.000 It's a very strange time to try to be a pundit or a journalist in politics because we're in this strange territory.

00:35:27.000 The polling, as you just pointed out, shows Donald Trump leading in Iowa.

00:35:31.000 Now think about that.

00:35:32.000 Oh, you feel butterflies and gradually losing energy.

00:35:37.000 Oh my god, I drank too much.

00:35:40.000 And then he keeled over about five seconds after this clip ended.

00:35:42.000 But the good news is he's feeling butterflies.

00:35:44.000 We're all feeling butterflies.

00:35:46.000 And tomorrow, who knows?

00:35:47.000 The butterflies may be gone because an asteroid has hit us and wiped out Earth.

00:35:50.000 I mean, that's possible.

00:35:50.000 But barring that, we will be back then.

00:35:53.000 Okay.

00:35:54.000 First, some things that I like and some things that I hate.

00:35:56.000 Aha, guys, you thought you were getting off easy.

00:35:58.000 Some things that I like and some things that I hate.

00:36:00.000 So over the weekend, I saw a couple of movies.

00:36:03.000 Both of which were good.

00:36:03.000 I saw Brooklyn, which is nominated for Best Picture.

00:36:06.000 And I thought it was a very good film, a good depiction of what immigration to the United States is like, what it means to integrate into American society.

00:36:16.000 Very interesting movie.

00:36:17.000 It had some holes in it, but I'd be giving it away if I told you what the holes are and my problems with it.

00:36:22.000 So I'll just say that it was like an 8 out of 10 for me.

00:36:24.000 There's another movie that I actually saw over the weekend that I liked better.

00:36:27.000 And it's a movie nobody is talking about.

00:36:28.000 It got no Oscar nominations.

00:36:30.000 And it had some actually pretty big stars in it.

00:36:33.000 It's a movie called Pawn Sacrifice, and it got no attention.

00:36:36.000 I mean, it was reviewed, obviously, but it didn't make any money at the box office.

00:36:40.000 It's about the battle in the late 60s, early 70s, between Bobby Fischer, the American chess master, and Boris Spassky, the Soviet chess master, which became, for a time, it was the biggest battle in sports, and it was the biggest story in the world, because they had a chess match.

00:36:55.000 The Russians were always assumed to have dominated the chess world, and Fischer came along, and Fischer was creative, and

00:37:02.000 Wild and came in and suddenly he was going to take Spassky's crown from him.

00:37:07.000 Here's the preview looks like just in case you're interested.

00:37:09.000 This game... It's a rabbit hole.

00:37:18.000 After only four moves, there's more than 300 billion options to consider.

00:37:22.000 We can take you very close to the edge.

00:37:38.000 I'll admit, I have a fondness for chess movies, which is a very small subset of film, but there's another really good chess movie called Searching for Bobby Fischer, so if you really want to see a great chess movie, that's an older chess movie about a guy who was a chess prodigy named Josh Waitzkin.

00:37:52.000 And it's a really, really good movie with Ben Kingsley and Lawrence Fishburne.

00:37:55.000 So check that out.

00:37:56.000 Check Pawn Sacrifice out.

00:37:57.000 I was shocked.

00:37:58.000 Ed Zwick directed it.

00:37:59.000 He's a real lefty.

00:37:59.000 But there really are no sucker punches in this particular production.

00:38:02.000 And Liv Schreiber, who's quickly becoming one of my favorite actors, is in it as well.

00:38:06.000 He's in Spotlight, too.

00:38:07.000 Really good actor.

00:38:08.000 So, that's the thing that I like.

00:38:10.000 Okay.

00:38:10.000 A couple of things that I hate.

00:38:11.000 So Bernie Sanders is, as we say, a socialist loon bag from Vermont.

00:38:15.000 And Bernie Sanders tweeted this out earlier today.

00:38:19.000 For those who can't see, it's a picture of Bernie.

00:38:22.000 From the back, and a big crowd in front of him, and it says, 0.99

00:38:32.000 I immediately tweeted back at Bernie Sanders, well you could just kill them and take all their money. 0.99

00:38:36.000 Because that seems to be the implication, right? 0.99

00:38:38.000 Is that they've somehow, it's ill-gotten gains, somehow they did something terrible, they stole it from the 130 million Americans at the bottom.

00:38:44.000 Last Friday we talked about how income inequality, the argument that income inequality is really a gauge worth measuring.

00:38:51.000 This is actually an evil argument because what it really says is, I deserve your cash if you have more than I do.

00:38:56.000 It's absurd.

00:38:57.000 And this is what, and every, by the way, every Bernie Sanders tweet, all of them, they all start with, it is absurd that X, and X is always something that is plainly obvious to everyone, right?

00:39:06.000 It's always, it's absurd that the sky is full of airplanes, and some people cannot fly on those airplanes.

00:39:12.000 It is absurd, absurd, that we are going to spend $1 billion on this campaign and that there is water that is not drinkable in some places on Earth.

00:39:21.000 Okay, yes, facts.

00:39:23.000 Congratulations.

00:39:24.000 What sort of change do you suggest?

00:39:26.000 And this is where socialism is successful.

00:39:28.000 This is why it's important.

00:39:30.000 Because socialism is successful in getting people to feel angry and jealous.

00:39:34.000 That's what socialism is good at.

00:39:36.000 And then the solutions they suggest are terrible, but they point out things and they suggest that

00:39:41.000 You know, there's some sort of grand scheme, some grand evil scheme to make the Waltons rich.

00:39:46.000 How the Waltons, who came from nowhere, got control of this much wealth?

00:39:50.000 It must have been some evil, cronyistic scheme.

00:39:53.000 But here's the amazing thing about wealth, and people should really take this to heart.

00:39:58.000 The reality is that the Waltons live more like poor people today than poor people today lived like poor people 50 years ago.

00:40:06.000 So the Waltons have the same phones that you do, right?

00:40:08.000 They probably have iPhones.

00:40:09.000 The Waltons still drive in a car, right?

00:40:12.000 The kind of car that you probably, they probably have a slightly nicer car, probably, maybe a very much nicer car.

00:40:16.000 Okay.

00:40:17.000 They fly in a plane.

00:40:18.000 You can fly in a plane.

00:40:19.000 They have TVs.

00:40:20.000 You can also have TVs.

00:40:21.000 The gap between rich and poor in the United States in terms of material living standard

00:40:25.000 We're good to go.

00:40:46.000 Everybody now has a cell phone.

00:40:48.000 Technology has evened everything out.

00:40:50.000 So the same commerce that made Walmart rich means that Walmart distributes the products that make everybody have a better lifestyle.

00:40:56.000 Right?

00:40:57.000 Your living standard is really not that much different than the Walmart's living standard.

00:41:01.000 They just have more of the same stuff that you do.

00:41:04.000 Right?

00:41:04.000 They may have slightly nicer meals, but you can get the same meal.

00:41:06.000 It's just not as good.

00:41:07.000 You can get the same car, it's just not as good.

00:41:08.000 You can get the same phone, it's just not as good.

00:41:11.000 It used to be that rich people had electricity and poor people didn't have electricity.

00:41:14.000 Right, so it's important to recognize that the amount of money you have in your bank account is not really a measure of wealth.

00:41:20.000 It's a measure of how many goods you can purchase.

00:41:22.000 But the kind of goods you can purchase are basically very similar between somebody who's very rich and somebody who's very poor.

00:41:27.000 I have the exact same computer as, you know, I earn a nice income, thank God.

00:41:33.000 My computer is exactly the same as the barista at Starbucks.

00:41:35.000 We have exactly the same computer.

00:41:37.000 I may earn ten times as much as the barista at Starbucks, but we have exactly the same computer.

00:41:41.000 That's because commerce evens out living standards.

00:41:44.000 It doesn't have to even out the amount of wealth that you have in your bank account.

00:41:47.000 So Bernie Sanders is a thing that I dislike.

00:41:50.000 Another thing that I dislike today, a thing that I hate...

00:41:53.000 This comes courtesy of our listener, Jacob.

00:41:55.000 Apparently, there's a new MTV series, and everything on MTV is garbaggio. 0.55

00:42:00.000 MTV is a garbage network, and they have a show apparently called Decoded, and so they have decided that they decode everything in life, of course, from a leftist perspective.

00:42:09.000 So here's a video from Decoded about the PC culture, and they say, don't worry. 0.95

00:42:14.000 Political correctness isn't anti-free speech.

00:42:16.000 It's not anti-free speech at all.

00:42:18.000 They're gonna decode it for you.

00:42:19.000 Here we go.

00:42:20.000 From YouTube comments to presidential candidates, it seems a lot of people think freedom of speech is under attack.

00:42:26.000 And who, might I ask, is to blame? 1.00

00:42:28.000 The goddamn PC culture! 0.99

00:42:30.000 If you've ever called out racism, sexism, ableism, or any other oppressivism, you've probably been accused of being too PC. 1.00

00:42:38.000 PC is, of course, short for politically correct.

00:42:40.000 Political correctness is avoiding words or behaviors that exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against.

00:42:48.000 Basically, treating people with respect.

00:42:50.000 Now if you ask me, that doesn't sound like a bad thing.

00:42:53.000 But a recent poll by Fairleigh Dickinson University found that 68% of Americans and 81% of Republicans agreed that a big problem this country has is being politically correct.

00:43:03.000 Even 62% of Democrats polled agreed that being PC was getting out of hand.

00:43:08.000 For these folks, political correctness is synonymous with weakness, or being overly sensitive.

00:43:13.000 Similar to the new term, social justice warrior,

00:43:16.000 Calling someone PC is a way to derail and dismiss conversations about inequality.

00:43:20.000 Okay, PC police, you're just offended by everything.

00:43:24.000 The term PC is almost always used as an insult.

00:43:27.000 While it's been around for a while, it gained popularity- Okay, we can cut this now.

00:43:30.000 Okay, so this is what's incredible.

00:43:32.000 So she's saying that PC doesn't silence debate.

00:43:34.000 You saying PC silences the debate.

00:43:37.000 Okay, so you remember how this video started, right?

00:43:39.000 If you call out sexism or ableism or racism, then that's not being PC, that's just being awesome.

00:43:47.000 Okay, what shuts down debate?

00:43:49.000 What shuts down debate more?

00:43:50.000 You saying that I'm a racist and therefore we can't have a conversation, or me saying that you are using political correctness as a cover to not have the conversation?

00:43:58.000 Politically correct just means you don't want to have the conversation. 0.92

00:44:01.000 Racism means you're an evil person.

00:44:03.000 When I say somebody is politically correct, I'm saying that you're attempting to shut down conversation, and that's what she's attempting to do.

00:44:08.000 Since when has calling somebody a racist ever led to a decent conversation?

00:44:12.000 Ever.

00:44:13.000 Even if the person's a racist, it doesn't lead to a good conversation.

00:44:16.000 Right?

00:44:16.000 That's not the point of calling somebody a racist.

00:44:18.000 The point of calling somebody a racist is to end the conversation.

00:44:21.000 It's a label, so you slap on them, you say this conversation is no longer worthwhile, right?

00:44:25.000 That's what it means to label somebody.

00:44:27.000 But according to her, it doesn't shut down free speech.

00:44:28.000 Okay, two things.

00:44:29.000 One,

00:44:30.000 PC doesn't necessarily shut down free speech in the legal sense.

00:44:33.000 I mean, they're not prosecuting you.

00:44:34.000 But there is no question that if I say that black crime rates are out of control in the United States, and you say, well, you're a racist, that that is politically correct and it is shutting down PC. 0.74

00:44:44.000 I mean, you're shutting down conversation. 0.51

00:44:46.000 That's the goal.

00:44:47.000 But it's amazing that they'll push this stuff, and then they wonder, they wonder why 40%, 40-odd percent of people who are young, millennials, think that there should be hate crimes legislation?

00:44:57.000 This is how PC bleeds over into actual legal ramifications.

00:45:00.000 According to a Pew poll earlier this year, 40% of millennials say that we should make it illegal in the United States to say things that are offensive based on race, sex, or sexual orientation.

00:45:11.000 So in other words, when she says that this is just treating people decently, well the problem is this.

00:45:16.000 Your subjective definition of what offends you doesn't mean that I'm wrong for saying it. 0.94

00:45:21.000 Black crime rates are out of control and a problem mainly for black people. 1.00

00:45:25.000 If you say that that's not politically correct because it's offensive, what you're doing is you're stopping the conversation and you're preventing it from going forward. 0.96

00:45:32.000 And there's no question that's what you attempt to do.

00:45:34.000 And that's why people who are young, people who watch stuff like MTV, they say, well, PC, you know, hate speech is bad, right?

00:45:40.000 Hate speech is bad, so we should stop it, right?

00:45:41.000 We should use the government to cut down on it.

00:45:43.000 The problem is your definition of hate speech is very different from my definition of hate speech.

00:45:47.000 And that's why we shouldn't have the government in the business of abridging freedom of speech and freedom of the press, as the First Amendment clearly states.

00:45:55.000 So, there you are.

00:45:56.000 Okay, a couple final quick things that I hate.

00:45:58.000 One, Susan Sarandon was at the Screen Actors Guild Awards, and they declared these the Diversity of Awards because they're a bunch of black people who won.

00:46:06.000 Yeah, they won for TV productions.

00:46:07.000 No shocker there.

00:46:08.000 At the Emmys, they won.

00:46:09.000 In any case, here is the picture of Susan Sarandon.

00:46:13.000 And ironically, she did wear this to the SAG Awards.

00:46:17.000 For people who cannot see, this is why you should subscribe, or maybe this is a case against subscribing, but Susan Sarandon is wearing, like, a white blazer, and she's wearing it basically over a black bra, and so all you see is, like, her saggy boobs coming halfway down her torso. 1.00

00:46:33.000 This is not the Susan Sarandon of Atlantic City.

00:46:35.000 She's long beyond that.

00:46:37.000 There are no oranges to be squeezed here.

00:46:38.000 I mean, this is... I mean, this is...

00:46:44.000 I'm sorry, a song that my daughter likes to listen to about your ears hanging low and they wobble to and fro comes to mind. 0.96

00:46:49.000 In any case, the thing that I hate about this is not that women's boobs sag as they get older. 1.00

00:46:53.000 It's called gravity. 0.70

00:46:53.000 Okay, we all understand. 0.70

00:46:55.000 Men's faces sag as they get older. 0.96

00:46:56.000 We all start to sag as we get older.

00:46:58.000 Welcome to planet Earth.

00:46:59.000 But what I hate about this is this idea that older women in Hollywood are supposed to be 1.00

00:47:04.000 Act just like younger women. 1.00

00:47:05.000 That they're supposed to be treated like younger women. 1.00

00:47:07.000 And older women today are supposed to act like younger women or be treated like younger women. 1.00

00:47:10.000 There used to be such a thing called aging gracefully.

00:47:12.000 That didn't mean that you had to like retire to the old age home and become an old crone. 0.92

00:47:16.000 But it did mean that you were supposed to recognize at a certain point that dressing like a 16 year old tart when you're 80 is really not your best option for anybody.

00:47:25.000 For a viewer, for participants, it's not good for anybody. 0.94

00:47:29.000 And it's kind of pathetic because you're setting a social standard that suggests... It's so funny. 0.89

00:47:34.000 All these people who say that women... We have to stop objectifying women. 1.00

00:47:37.000 Then they say that you have to objectify women to the extent that you're supposed to expect these kind of boobs on your 70-year-old grandmother. 1.00

00:47:44.000 It's ridiculous. 1.00

00:47:45.000 First of all, don't look at your grandmother's boobs. 1.00

00:47:47.000 It's gross. 0.98

00:47:47.000 Second of all, when you're talking about this idea that there's expectations of women, unrealistic expectations of women, you don't want to talk unrealistic expectations of women. 0.98

00:47:56.000 This is unrealistic expectations of women in a nutshell. 1.00

00:47:58.000 Redoing the body on the Barbie ain't gonna do much.

00:48:01.000 But starting to treat people of all ages, women of all ages, with a little bit of class and respect would be nice.

00:48:08.000 And this is just absurd.

00:48:09.000 I mean, it's just vulgar.

00:48:10.000 Okay, final thing that I disliked for the day.

00:48:12.000 Bernie Sanders, back to Bernie Sanders.

00:48:13.000 He had a big rally over the weekend in Iowa and people were like, oh my god, so many people showed up. 0.86

00:48:18.000 I don't follow pop music mainly because it's garbage that could be produced by- most of which could be produced by a horse's anus, but there's some group called Vampire Weekend. 0.95

00:48:28.000 You guys have heard of Vampire Weekend? 0.99

00:48:30.000 Yes?

00:48:30.000 I see Lindsey has heard of Vampire Weekend.

00:48:31.000 Okay, I've never heard of this group.

00:48:33.000 Apparently people have heard of this group.

00:48:35.000 All right.

00:48:36.000 So they showed up at this- at this Bernie Sanders thing and, uh, and they sang a Bernie Sanders song.

00:48:42.000 This land is your land.

00:48:44.000 This land is my land.

00:48:48.000 And there's Bernie and the crowd looking all awkward and clapping out of time.

00:48:54.000 As they say, there's an old bumper sticker about a jazz critic that everybody hated.

00:48:59.000 And I can't remember his name, but he said, so-and-so claps on one and three.

00:49:03.000 Because, it's a musical joke for those of you who know music, you're supposed to clap, syncopation is two and four, like one, two, three, four, right, syncopation.

00:49:11.000 Bernie Sanders is clapping wildly out of time in this video.

00:49:14.000 It's like he's clapping to a different song.

00:49:16.000 One of the things I hate is the merger of celebrity and political culture, which we've talked about and which has generated Trump and Hillary.

00:49:22.000 The merger of all of these things has led to the rise of politicians who truly have no sort of

00:49:31.000 I don't know.

00:49:51.000 And it turns our politicians into celebrities, and our celebrities are royals, so it turns our politicians by the transitive property into royals.

00:49:58.000 So we may as well just crown them kings and be done with it.

00:50:00.000 Which we may do tonight!

00:50:01.000 It's the Iowa caucuses.

00:50:03.000 Is Trump the man who would be king?

00:50:05.000 The hair who would be monarch?

00:50:07.000 Can anyone stop the Trump train?

00:50:10.000 Will Marco Rubio surge?

00:50:11.000 Will we even come back tomorrow if I decide to take a sleeping pill and miss the show?

00:50:16.000 Who knows?

00:50:17.000 All of these questions and more will be answered on the morrow.

00:50:21.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:50:21.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

The Ben Shapiro Show - February 01, 2016

Ep. 64 - Iowa Is Tonight. I Hate Everyone And Everything.

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