The Ben Shapiro Show - I Am Darth Vader | Ep. 1562

00:00:00.000 Podcast movement abjectly apologizes to the left for my bodily presence at one of their conferences.

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00:01:36.000 Well, there's been a widespread feeling among people on the right in the United States that they're being excluded from all of the major institutions of American life.

00:01:44.000 That if people allow them to be part of big events, for example, if people allow them part of a marketplace, that is just because they're doing it at their own sufferance.

00:01:53.000 The basic idea here is that you are so bad that you could maybe, maybe be allowed to participate in a sort of common space.

00:02:00.000 But in reality, under the surface, people don't want you to be part of that common space.

00:02:04.000 They want you out.

00:02:06.000 And there are people on the left who say this is paranoid.

00:02:07.000 No, no, no.

00:02:08.000 We want you to be part of the common space.

00:02:10.000 We may not like your opinions, we may disagree with you, but the reality is that we want you to be part of this big, broad conversation.

00:02:16.000 And that has been the pitch of the so-called free speech left for a very long time.

00:02:21.000 And the left is now dividing itself between liberals, people who believe in that concept, and the hardcore radical left, which is increasingly taking over institution after institution and then saying that people who disagree with us must be excluded entirely from those institutions.

00:02:35.000 As you may know, this right here is the biggest political podcast in America, which means on planet Earth, this political podcast.

00:02:41.000 Thank God.

00:02:42.000 Thanks to you, the listeners.

00:02:43.000 We have millions of people who engage with the show every single day.

00:02:46.000 And our podcast network at Daily Wire is the sixth biggest podcast network on planet Earth.

00:02:50.000 And so when we decided that we were going to take a booth at a conference that, frankly, I'd never heard of called Podcast Movement, This was sort of a sign that we were just going to be part of the community of nations, so to speak.

00:03:02.000 We're part of the podcasting community.

00:03:04.000 We're reaching out to advertisers, reaching out to other podcasting networks, trying to find maybe new employees.

00:03:09.000 It's just like any other professional conference.

00:03:11.000 So we spent a little bit of money, got a podcast booth.

00:03:14.000 And that was pretty much it, right?

00:03:15.000 The event went on over the course of the weekend.

00:03:17.000 There's this big podcast movement event in Dallas.

00:03:19.000 It happens every year.

00:03:20.000 It's been growing every year because the podcasting industry has been growing every single year.

00:03:24.000 Well, I got a call from my business partner, Jeremy Boring, a few days ago, and he said, do you mind flying into Dallas for an event that is not really attached to podcast movement?

00:03:33.000 Somebody's having a retirement party.

00:03:34.000 Do you mind actually coming in for that to celebrate this person's retirement?

00:03:37.000 I said, sure, no problem.

00:03:39.000 So I flew in.

00:03:40.000 And we happened to be at the Podcast Movement booth that we had paid for at Podcast Movement.

00:03:46.000 And he said, you know, let's just take a walk around the floor.

00:03:48.000 Okay, that's literally all that happened.

00:03:50.000 I came to this Podcast Movement event, this conference, and I walked around the floor.

00:03:55.000 And this prompted such spasms of apoplexy, it beggars the mind.

00:04:01.000 It really is an amazing thing.

00:04:03.000 So I want to begin this story by showing you exactly what it was like when I was walking around podcast movement.

00:04:09.000 Because in order for you to understand the reaction from the left to my mere physical presence in this space, you have to understand just how intimidating I am.

00:04:17.000 According to the left, I'm one of the most intimidating people on planet Earth.

00:04:19.000 I'm just, I'm absolutely terrifying.

00:04:22.000 I am scary.

00:04:23.000 I am threatening.

00:04:24.000 I'm Darth Vader, right?

00:04:25.000 I am just, if I walk into a room, you don't know if I'm going to force choke you. 0.98

00:04:29.000 You don't know that I'm going to strike you down with my lightsaber. 0.96

00:04:31.000 You just don't know. 0.98

00:04:32.000 I am a dangerous human being, according to the left.

00:04:35.000 And you can see it on the video.

00:04:36.000 Okay, this is video of me at Podcast Movement.

00:04:40.000 Again, this is sort of a spontaneous drop by because we paid for a booth.

00:04:44.000 And, you know, you want to check out the events, you just sort of walk around.

00:04:47.000 This is all that happened at Podcast Movement.

00:04:49.000 And then wait until you hear the reaction, because it's astonishing.

00:04:51.000 So here is the actual video.

00:05:01.000 Nice suit though.

00:05:04.000 So, yep, that's me shaking some hands with some people who want to take some pictures.

00:05:10.000 That's the whole thing.

00:05:13.000 That's the whole thing.

00:05:14.000 Thank you so much, I appreciate it.

00:05:15.000 Thank you, I'm excited about it.

00:05:16.000 That's great.

00:05:17.000 Thank you so much.

00:05:18.000 This is awesome.

00:05:19.000 I can't wait to see you.

00:05:20.000 The next two days, I'll be so excited.

00:05:21.000 Great, thanks.

00:05:22.000 That's the whole thing.

00:05:26.000 So I literally walked around the floor, I shook some hands, and I walked out.

00:05:31.000 This prompted podcast movement to issue a full-scale groveling apology for my presence The reason being, there was a trans person who was in a 300-yard radius of where I was standing.

00:05:43.000 And this person tweeted at Podcast Movement with their 150 followers and said, quote, as a trans person, as a queer person, as someone with a uterus, this does not make me feel welcome.

00:05:54.000 This does not make me feel safe.

00:05:57.000 Well, clearly I was making people feel unsafe by, you know, standing there and taking pictures with people.

00:06:01.000 I didn't even notice this human being.

00:06:03.000 I couldn't have picked this person out of a crowd.

00:06:06.000 I don't remember this person.

00:06:08.000 Also, I'd like to note that if you have a uterus, this makes you a woman. 1.00

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00:07:28.000 Podcast Movement then put out a statement.

00:07:31.000 And remember, we are the sixth biggest podcast publisher on planet Earth.

00:07:34.000 My show is the biggest political podcast on planet Earth.

00:07:38.000 Tens of millions of dollars from advertising agencies are earned every year from the show.

00:07:43.000 And those people pay for podcast movement.

00:07:45.000 So podcast movement put out the following tweet thread.

00:07:47.000 And this is so indicative of where we are in politics today.

00:07:50.000 It really is.

00:07:50.000 And you want to know how you got Trump?

00:07:52.000 You want to know how you got political polarization?

00:07:54.000 You want to know how you got a bunch of people in this country who believe that they are being excised from the public square?

00:08:02.000 Hi folks.

00:08:09.000 We owe you an apology before sessions kick off for the day.

00:08:12.000 Yesterday afternoon, Ben Shapiro briefly visited the PM22 Expo area near the Dailyware booth.

00:08:17.000 Though he was not registered or expected, we take full responsibility for the harm done by his presence.

00:08:23.000 The harm done by my presence.

00:08:25.000 I mean, it was amazing.

00:08:27.000 People were just keeling over.

00:08:30.000 They had to actually triage the wounded at local hospitals.

00:08:34.000 Just the damage done by my very presence.

00:08:36.000 I mean, this is the sort of power I wield, by the way.

00:08:38.000 I walk into a room and it's basically like Moses coming down from the mount when his face is shining.

00:08:38.000 My employees know this.

00:08:43.000 He has to put on a mask just to make sure that he doesn't hurt the people around him accidentally.

00:08:47.000 That's me when I walk into a room.

00:08:48.000 Except with death and chaos.

00:08:51.000 Podcast movement then continued.

00:08:53.000 There's no way around it.

00:08:54.000 We agreed to sell The Daily Wire a first-time booth based on the company's large presence in podcasting.

00:08:59.000 The weight of that decision is now painfully clear.

00:09:02.000 Painfully clear.

00:09:03.000 Shapiro is a co-founder.

00:09:04.000 A drop-in, however unlikely, should have been considered a possibility.

00:09:08.000 And then they continue along these lines.

00:09:10.000 Just continues.

00:09:12.000 Those of you who called this unacceptable are right.

00:09:15.000 In nine wonderful years growing and celebrating this medium, PM has made mistakes.

00:09:19.000 The pain caused by this one will always stick with us forever on their deathbeds.

00:09:24.000 The founders of PM are going to be thinking back about the pain that this caused to people who were literally just standing there in a general radius of my extraordinarily dangerous visage.

00:09:37.000 I mean, I'm a dangerous man, gang.

00:09:40.000 I was noting to Fabby, our makeup artist, this morning.

00:09:43.000 I'm not sure, in modern American political history, there's ever been a larger gap between the sort of rhetoric that is used about the dangers that I posed and the human being about whom this is spoken.

00:09:54.000 It really is an amazing thing.

00:09:57.000 Look at me, for God's sake.

00:09:59.000 This?

00:09:59.000 Really?

00:10:00.000 This is what you're so scared of? 1.00

00:10:02.000 You pathetic, mewling babies? 1.00

00:10:03.000 Like, really? 1.00

00:10:06.000 The pain caused by this one will always stick with us forever.

00:10:10.000 Forever!

00:10:12.000 Literally shaking.

00:10:13.000 People just screaming, crying to the heavens.

00:10:17.000 Why would you allow this?

00:10:17.000 Why God?

00:10:19.000 We promise that sponsors will be more carefully considered moving forward, says podcast movement.

00:10:24.000 They tweeted this out yesterday at 6.33am.

00:10:26.000 Just to clarify, No daily wear representatives were scheduled to appear on panels and Shapiro remained in the common space and did not have a badge.

00:10:33.000 If you have questions, we're here to talk.

00:10:35.000 Thank you for reading.

00:10:35.000 We hope you'll continue to join us from here on out.

00:10:38.000 I know you better have some crisis managers on hand.

00:10:41.000 We need some psychologists.

00:10:43.000 We need to make sure my mere presence.

00:10:44.000 OK, so I just want to point out right here.

00:10:47.000 That those of us who believe that men exist and women exist, we are accused because we believe that men exist and women exist and that people who claim to be members of the opposite sex are not in fact members of the opposite sex.

00:10:57.000 Because we say that, we are accused of things like erasure.

00:11:00.000 You're saying that trans people don't exist.

00:11:03.000 No, I'm saying people with gender dysphoria do exist.

00:11:06.000 People with gender identity disorder do exist.

00:11:09.000 I'm saying you are not a member of the opposite sex. 0.99

00:11:10.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:11:12.000 If you want to talk about quote-unquote erasure, if you want to talk about the idea of denying people's right to exist, how about this person exists in a space, he needs to go away because his very presence threatens me.

00:11:25.000 I'm not sure I've ever heard the questioning of someone's existence more clearly and obviously than that.

00:11:31.000 This is a major podcasting event.

00:11:33.000 Every major podcasting company shows up to this, from Disney to Apple.

00:11:36.000 Everyone shows up.

00:11:37.000 Spotify.

00:11:38.000 They're all there.

00:11:40.000 We're the only ones who earn the ire of podcast movements to the extent that they put out a four-tweet thread explaining how objectively sorry they are for my physical being.

00:11:49.000 Well, I'm not going to apologize for being a human who breathes oxygen in a space.

00:11:53.000 I'm not going to do that.

00:11:55.000 I'm not going to do that.

00:11:56.000 And the fact that the left, that many people on the left want that to happen is just that. 0.94

00:11:59.000 And listen, there's some people on the left who came out and they said, this is ridiculous. 0.83

00:12:03.000 And some, some names sort of popped to mind here.

00:12:06.000 Yashar Ali is not a person on the right. 0.76

00:12:08.000 He on, he's on Twitter saying this is ridiculous.

00:12:10.000 Ryan Grim over the intercept. 0.95

00:12:11.000 He said he's on Twitter saying this is ridiculous, but I have a question.

00:12:15.000 All these so-called free speech podcasting companies, the Spotify's and the Disney's what the crooked media company.

00:12:22.000 Where are you guys?

00:12:24.000 Seriously, I have a question for you.

00:12:25.000 Where are you guys?

00:12:27.000 Because I know that on this show, I've said many, many times before, that if you want to know the truth about what is fact and what is opinion in politics, and you're listening to podcasts, what you should do is you should listen to shows like this one, and then you should listen to Pod Save America, which is a crooked podcast, and then what you should do is you should see what is the common basis of fact, the stuff that we're saying that's the same, that's the fact, everything else is the opinion.

00:12:46.000 I recommended that you listen to shows on the other side.

00:12:49.000 People on the other side of the aisle, for all of their talk about tolerance and diversity and free speech, If they are not willing to stand up and say that conferences should include the most mainstream representative of the podcast right, this show has well in excess of 35 million listeners a month.

00:13:04.000 Well in excess of it.

00:13:06.000 If you are not willing to say that sort of stuff clearly and openly, then why exactly would I trust that you want to be part of the political discourse rather than just to monopolize and dominate? 0.83

00:13:17.000 It's disgusting. 0.88

00:13:19.000 Your silence is rather deafening here. 0.97

00:13:22.000 Because let's be real about this.

00:13:24.000 If you were banned from podcast movement, I would say something.

00:13:27.000 I have.

00:13:28.000 I've spent my life saying things about this.

00:13:31.000 But all right.

00:13:32.000 I mean, if this is the way you want it, this is the way you want it.

00:13:34.000 If you want parallel economies, if you want parallel podcasting universes, if you want parallel advertising, if that's what you want, that is what you're going to get.

00:13:40.000 You're going to get it right in the face.

00:13:44.000 The left is cruising for a bruising and they are asking for it.

00:13:48.000 And when it comes, Listen, we launched Jeremy's Razors on the basis that Harry's Razors pulled their advertising and ripped into our listeners.

00:13:56.000 And we made a lot of money off of Jeremy's Razors.

00:14:00.000 That company has been in existence for like a few months.

00:14:03.000 And that company has almost 100,000 subscribers to it.

00:14:08.000 We are willing to do this to all of you.

00:14:09.000 Because if you wish to excise us, if you wish to cast us out into the cornfield, we're not all just going away.

00:14:14.000 Half the country isn't just going away.

00:14:17.000 Our mere presence, threatening you, we're not just leaving.

00:14:20.000 We're not just going to surrender the playing field to all of you.

00:14:23.000 So keep going.

00:14:25.000 Dare us.

00:14:25.000 Seriously, do it.

00:14:27.000 Continue.

00:14:27.000 We're not going to surrender to all of these people who simply wish us to disappear.

00:14:31.000 That's not something that we are going to do.

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00:15:37.000 Meanwhile, Joe Biden is out there suggesting that if you're on the other side of the aisle from Joe Biden, this makes you a semi-fascist.

00:15:44.000 He is doing this at the exact same time.

00:15:45.000 He is cramming down via completely unconstitutional executive authority, a mass student loan bailout directed specifically at his own political allies.

00:15:53.000 So yesterday, Joe Biden was back on the campaign trail.

00:15:55.000 People on the left are just, they are so excited because Joe Biden's approval rating, according to Gallup, get ready for this, guys.

00:16:00.000 It's up to 44%.

00:16:00.000 Ooh, ah, wow.

00:16:01.000 It's just, ooh, ooh, I'm intimidated.

00:16:04.000 He's up to 44%.

00:16:04.000 He was all the way down to 38% in June.

00:16:07.000 He's up to 44%.

00:16:08.000 He was all the way down to 38% in June.

00:16:11.000 He's up to 44% in August.

00:16:13.000 And according to Gallup, this means that he is now rising.

00:16:18.000 Rising Joe.

00:16:19.000 Wow.

00:16:21.000 The increase in Biden's job approval rating is largely buoyed by political independents, whose approval rose from 31% last month to the current 40%.

00:16:29.000 Well, I mean, if independents love him by a margin of they hate him 6 to 4, I don't know what Republicans are going to do.

00:16:35.000 It is worth noting here, by the way, that Donald Trump's approval ratings were 44% in October of 2018.

00:16:42.000 Within a couple of weeks, the Democrats had won 41 seats in the House.

00:16:45.000 So before you guys all get too excited, why don't you take a cold shower with some statistics?

00:16:51.000 In any case, the idea here is that Joe Biden is on a run.

00:16:54.000 Now, his run, by the way, his very successful run has coincided with him being comatose in Delaware.

00:17:00.000 He just went completely off the campaign trail.

00:17:02.000 He merges every so often to drop some mashed potatoes from his face hole.

00:17:08.000 And then he goes back into hiding in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware.

00:17:10.000 He's been basically incommunicado for the last three to four weeks.

00:17:14.000 Well, now he's back out there on the campaign trail.

00:17:16.000 And what is he saying?

00:17:16.000 He's saying, everyone who opposes me is a semi-fascist.

00:17:19.000 So Joe Biden was addressing Democratic Party donors at a private fundraiser in Maryland on Thursday evening, according to Politico.

00:17:25.000 And he said, what we are seeing now is either the beginning or the death knell of extreme MAGA philosophy.

00:17:31.000 He said, it's not just Trump.

00:17:32.000 It's the entire philosophy that underpins the, I'm going to say something, it's like semi-fascism.

00:17:37.000 It's not just Trump.

00:17:38.000 It's you.

00:17:39.000 It's me.

00:17:40.000 It's everyone who disagrees with Joe Biden.

00:17:42.000 It's part of a semi-fascist movement.

00:17:45.000 Which is an amazing statement coming from Captain Unity over here.

00:17:48.000 So you are part of a semi-fascist movement.

00:17:51.000 One thing that I've noticed about American politicians when they talk about fascism is they don't know what the hell they're talking about.

00:17:55.000 When they say fascism, what they typically mean is just to compare their opponents to Hitler.

00:17:58.000 They don't actually know anything about the history of fascism.

00:18:00.000 They don't know anything about Mussolini.

00:18:01.000 They don't know anything about the preconditions to Hitler's rise.

00:18:03.000 Nothing.

00:18:04.000 Well, let me make one thing pretty clear about the rise of Hitler in Germany.

00:18:08.000 The precondition to Hitler's rise in Germany It's one economic chaos and two massive expansion of centralized executive authority in Germany. 0.86

00:18:17.000 The fascist state actually existed in Germany before Hitler.

00:18:20.000 Go back and read about 1932 and 1931 and the period immediately preceding the rise of Hitler.

00:18:26.000 And what you will see is that virtually all authority had been vested in the executive branch of the German government.

00:18:31.000 Which means if we're talking about the future of fascism in the United States, you might be a little more wary of, you know, just doing everything from the executive branch without any sort of executive authority whatsoever.

00:18:40.000 But that's exactly what Joe Biden is doing.

00:18:42.000 So yesterday, Joe Biden was out hobnobbing with crowds.

00:18:45.000 There's video of him doing this, right?

00:18:46.000 He's speaking and then he went out and he's shaking hands with the crowd.

00:18:49.000 We know that Jill, by the way, came down with a rebound case of COVID-19.

00:18:52.000 So here he is, shaking hands with tons of people.

00:18:54.000 He was on C-SPAN yesterday.

00:19:00.000 Now, the reason that I'm pointing out Joe Biden An elderly daughter bumping fists and shaking hands with a large crowd of people in close proximity is that Joe Biden says that his executive authority for relieving $500 billion in student loan debt comes thanks to a COVID emergency.

00:19:19.000 So just to get this straight, the COVID emergency is over with regard to the southern border.

00:19:24.000 So we have to let in as many illegal immigrants as possible. 1.00

00:19:27.000 But the COVID emergency is still going so strong that he can use his executive authority to relieve half a trillion dollars in student loan debt.

00:19:37.000 Does that sound like democracy in action to you?

00:19:40.000 Does that sound constitutional to you?

00:19:44.000 Of course not, but it's not about that.

00:19:45.000 It's about paying off his political allies with your money.

00:19:49.000 And of course, this is going to have some rather dire economic side effects.

00:19:53.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, President Biden's decision to cancel up to $20,000 in student debt for millions of borrowers will have broad economic consequences, including on inflation, consumer behavior, and government budgets.

00:20:03.000 Assuming the plan survives any potential legal challenges, the move to cancel a lump sum of debt for more than 40 million borrowers and change repayment rules could provide a modest boost to longer-term inflation and lead to larger federal deficits, economists say.

00:20:15.000 In the short term, some, such as Obama administration economist Jason Furman, say the debt relief risks, quote, While stream analysts say the near-term impact is likely to be limited because debt relief isn't like other forms of stimulus, individuals won't immediately have more money to spend because almost all borrowers haven't been paying during a government repayment moratorium during the COVID-19 pandemic.

00:20:37.000 If all borrowers who are eligible for debt cancellation enroll, student loan balances will be reduced by about $400 billion.

00:20:44.000 According to a Goldman Sachs analysis released on Thursday, their economists found student loan payments would fall from 0.4% of personal income to 0.3%.

00:20:51.000 Debt cancellation isn't likely to have much of an immediate effect on inflation, they found.

00:20:56.000 However, as you cancel debt, obviously this means that it's easier for all of these borrowers to give out new loans in an inflationary economy, in an inflationary educational economy, because you haven't actually capped the price of tuition.

00:21:09.000 You're subsidizing predatory lenders and irresponsible borrowers.

00:21:12.000 That is what a student loan debt payout looks like.

00:21:16.000 And yet this administration, because they are wildly dishonest, they're out there saying that, you know, we have a great record on fiscal responsibility.

00:21:22.000 So here is Karine Jean-Pierre, the extraordinarily untalented press secretary, suggesting yesterday that this administration, you should trust them when they simply say that they're going to hand out hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars to people who didn't pay back their student loans for degrees in art history at the local JUCO.

00:21:42.000 You should trust them because they're super fiscally responsible.

00:21:44.000 Here is Karine Jean-Pierre yesterday.

00:21:46.000 The president's record on fiscal responsibility is second to none.

00:21:50.000 And last year alone, you've heard us talk about this because this is incredibly important.

00:21:56.000 He achieved $350 billion in deficit reduction, and this year it's projected by the end of the fiscal year to be at $1.7 trillion deficit reduction.

00:22:06.000 This is historic.

00:22:07.000 What we're talking about here is historic numbers because of the work that this president has done when it comes to the economy.

00:22:15.000 Oh, they're really, really fiscally responsible.

00:22:17.000 This is what they are.

00:22:18.000 Okay, now, there's only one problem with the idea that they're fiscally responsible.

00:22:21.000 They are wildly fiscally irresponsible, this administration.

00:22:24.000 In fact, one of the things that they've been claiming is going to carve out from the deficit, one of the things that's going to claw back money from the deficits that they continue to, the debts they continue to expand, is the IRS enforcement agents.

00:22:36.000 They say that they're not going to go after low-income people.

00:22:38.000 That is not true.

00:22:39.000 The IRS 100% is going to go after people who make under $400,000 a year for sure.

00:22:44.000 Well, now they are reporting that the IRS revenue boost from stronger enforcement is now being scaled back by the CBO.

00:22:50.000 So remember, they said, don't worry, guys, when we say that we're going to spend a bunch of money on climate and we're going to the Inflation Reduction Act and the American Prosperity Plan and all this garbage, when we do all that stuff, we're going to claw back all that revenue via the IRS.

00:23:01.000 Well, now the CBO is outlining its revised estimate Thursday, adjusting the projected 10-year revenue generated by the nearly $80 billion in IRS spending included in the law Biden signed last week.

00:23:12.000 They've reduced it by well over $20 billion, according to the CBO.

00:23:16.000 So all the money they say they're going to get by auditing you, even that is going down.

00:23:20.000 Well, this administration, they keep saying they are fiscally responsible.

00:23:22.000 I've yet to see the evidence that they are fiscally responsible.

00:23:25.000 But here is the thing, the fact that they are taking all of your money and they're using all of your money to bail out a bunch of deadbeat borrowers.

00:23:31.000 And deadbeat college lenders.

00:23:32.000 You know, maybe you might be thinking to yourself at this point, have I ever paid my taxes?

00:23:36.000 Like really, maybe, well, maybe you have.

00:23:38.000 And the way that you're going to find out is by heading on over to GetRefunds.com.

00:23:43.000 If your business has five or more employees and managed to survive COVID, you could be eligible to receive a payroll tax rebate of up to 26 grand per employee.

00:23:50.000 There's no payback.

00:23:50.000 It's not a loan.

00:23:51.000 It is a refund on taxes that you didn't have to pay the first time around.

00:23:54.000 The challenge is getting your hands on it.

00:23:55.000 So how do you cut through that red tape and get your business the refund money?

00:23:58.000 head on over to getrefunds.com.

00:24:00.000 Their tax attorneys are specialists in a little-known payroll tax refund program.

00:24:03.000 They do the work for you, no charge up front.

00:24:05.000 They simply share a percentage of the cash they get for you.

00:24:07.000 Businesses of all types can qualify, including those who took PPP, non-profits, even those that had increases in sales.

00:24:13.000 Again, if you overpaid your taxes, why wouldn't you just go get some of your tax money back?

00:24:17.000 The team at getrefunds.com has already returned Okay, let's talk about a fiscally responsible administration.

00:24:22.000 to getrefunds.com. Click on qualify me answer a few questions. This payroll tax refund is only available for a limited amount of time. Don't miss out head on over to getrefunds.com again that is getrefunds.com and get all the information you need. Meanwhile, you're talking about a fiscally responsible regime. Okay, let's talk about a fiscally responsible administration.

00:24:40.000 According to the Washington Post. Millions in COVID aid went to retrain veterans.

00:24:46.000 397 of them landed jobs.

00:24:48.000 So we spent, during the American Rescue Plan, the great savior of the American economy from this fiscally responsible administration, they spent $400 million on a veteran retraining program.

00:24:59.000 $400 million.

00:25:00.000 So how many veterans actually got jobs because of that veteran retraining program?

00:25:03.000 397.

00:25:03.000 That is a million dollars per job.

00:25:06.000 We should have just given a million dollars to 397 veterans.

00:25:10.000 They've been better off doing that.

00:25:12.000 Complete and total waste of money, according to the Washington Post.

00:25:17.000 In February, the VA cut off tuition payments to a company called FutureTech, which is one of these training programs.

00:25:24.000 Because, again, they were just wasting money, and they hadn't actually generated any jobs for these people.

00:25:30.000 As of August 1st, only about 6,800 veterans had enrolled in the program.

00:25:33.000 That's far fewer than the 17,250 Congress created it to serve.

00:25:37.000 Only 397 had landed new jobs.

00:25:40.000 So as always, the government spends a crapload of your money and achieves zero of your desired results.

00:25:44.000 But don't worry, guys, they're fiscally responsible.

00:25:47.000 And by the way, how irresponsible is this student loan forgiveness?

00:25:51.000 Here's how irresponsible the student loan forgiveness is.

00:25:54.000 If you paid back your loans during COVID, and some people, they had their student loan borrowing sort of postponed.

00:26:01.000 If you paid it back, if you actually were responsible, you went ahead and you paid it back, now the government is going to refund you that money.

00:26:09.000 I'm not kidding.

00:26:10.000 So the government is actually going to, they're going to take the money that you paid back to your student loan and they're going to give it back to you even though you weren't experiencing an emergency at all because you paid back the loan.

00:26:24.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, the few Americans who continue to make student loan payments during a federal pause enacted at the beginning of the pandemic will now be eligible for a refund.

00:26:32.000 The Education Department clarified on Thursday those who paid off all or part of their federal student loans since March 13, 2020 still qualify for forgiveness.

00:26:41.000 Borrowers can request a refund by calling their loan servicer directly.

00:26:44.000 So if you spent the last 20 years paying off your student loans, no.

00:26:46.000 But if you paid off since the beginning of the pandemic, yes.

00:26:49.000 And we are still in a COVID emergency, according to Joe Biden.

00:26:51.000 So we're going to just refund you this money.

00:26:54.000 And these geniuses are telling you this is not going to affect inflation.

00:26:56.000 It won't.

00:26:57.000 According to Pete Buttigieg, it won't. 0.98

00:26:58.000 And we know we can believe Pete Buttigieg because he was the mayor of a tiny town in Indiana and also is gay. 0.76

00:27:03.000 Those are his chief qualifications for telling you about inflation. 0.75

00:27:05.000 So here's Pete Buttigieg.

00:27:07.000 It's also a balanced program.

00:27:09.000 It's a tailored program paying special attention to Pell Grant recipients who are some of those who have experienced proportionately the most harm from trying to keep up with the weight of that debt.

00:27:22.000 It's got an income cap so it's targeted at lower and middle income borrowers.

00:27:27.000 And what I've seen is there's a range of analysis on it, but from what I've seen, most economic observers do not think this is a major factor affecting the course of inflation.

00:27:39.000 Guys, it'll be totally fine.

00:27:40.000 By the way, at the same exact time, Miguel Cardona, the education secretary, he was asked on national television about what's gonna happen when the loan repayments come due, right?

00:27:49.000 When all of a sudden you're now repaying your loan, but you've had your loan relieved.

00:27:53.000 He says, hey, billions of dollars are gonna flow into the economy.

00:27:55.000 Wait, I was just told by your, so you've got the secretary of transportation saying no inflation.

00:27:59.000 And now you have the education secretary saying billions of dollars will flow into the economy.

00:28:03.000 That generates inflation.

00:28:05.000 So here's our education secretary.

00:28:07.000 What we know is that in January, billions of dollars are going to funnel back into the economy because these loans are going to restart.

00:28:16.000 And that's going to offset the expenses of these loan forgiveness.

00:28:19.000 So it is an offset.

00:28:21.000 Economists are saying this.

00:28:22.000 And we're thrilled that it's going to get Americans back on their feet and moving forward.

00:28:28.000 So the money is going to flow into the economy and that is going to generate inflation.

00:28:33.000 But according to Miguel Cardona, guys, don't worry, it's not going to elevate education costs.

00:28:37.000 So if you just subsidize things, it doesn't raise the price, which would come as a shock to literally all economists in the history of economics.

00:28:44.000 When you subsidize things and you don't control the price, when you continue to boost the baseline, the price also goes up because the supply and demand curve has not changed.

00:28:56.000 Here's Miguel Cardona explaining that even though we're about to dump literally hundreds of billions of dollars into education, don't worry, that's not going to raise the prices.

00:29:03.000 It should be the first time in human history that's never happened, if that were true.

00:29:05.000 Are you concerned that a policy like this one, $10,000 in forgiveness, kind of gives a signal to higher education institutions that it's okay to charge the amount that they are charging for students because this debt will just be forgiven?

00:29:21.000 Absolutely not.

00:29:22.000 We've increased accountability in the higher education space.

00:29:25.000 We revoked accreditation privileges for groups that are giving accreditation to schools that are taking advantage of students.

00:29:34.000 We've shut down Corinthian, ITT.

00:29:36.000 We're not done.

00:29:38.000 We're going to make sure that the return on investment in higher education is there, and we're going to count on our higher education partners to work with us on that, and we're going to be watching, too.

00:29:46.000 We're not afraid of naming and shaming institutions that are taking advantage of our students who are trying to make a life for themselves, or first-generation college students who are being sold a bill of goods and never being delivered on.

00:30:01.000 I'm sorry, this is a joke.

00:30:01.000 They're a joke.

00:30:02.000 First of all, the notion that the only educational institutions taking advantage of the increased tuition and the credentialing that is now occurring, that's inflating the requirements for jobs, the only people who are doing that are the hairdressing university down in a local inner city.

00:30:16.000 It's not true.

00:30:16.000 Look at the administrative costs at these universities.

00:30:18.000 You'll see the number of administrators at these universities has been growing and growing and growing.

00:30:22.000 And it's all in the diversity, equity and inclusion aspects of the university.

00:30:25.000 The majors that are growing in terms of number of people being hired, Are all the garbage liberal arts majors.

00:30:30.000 It's not the STEM majors.

00:30:32.000 So it's it's amazing.

00:30:34.000 But don't worry, the cost won't go up, except they'll go up.

00:30:36.000 Also, we're going to toss hundreds of billions of dollars into it.

00:30:38.000 Don't worry, it won't inflate in education costs.

00:30:41.000 It won't inflate the economy generally.

00:30:43.000 Well, Stephen Ratner, former top economic advisor to Barack Obama, he's like, yeah, guys, this is actually going to create rising tuition.

00:30:48.000 Duh.

00:30:50.000 I think it is an important point to recognize that this program, or programs like this, do encourage, in effect, more raising of tuition because you're subsidizing the students.

00:31:03.000 But other than the government coming in and somehow controlling college tuition, which I'm not sure any of us, at least I would not particularly be in favor of, this is what happens.

00:31:14.000 Okay, so this administration is lying about everything.

00:31:17.000 And they are doing something deeply unfair.

00:31:19.000 And they're trying to pretend that it's fair, but it is deeply unfair.

00:31:23.000 And they continue to maintain, by the way, that this is actually just, it's good for people, right?

00:31:26.000 We're helping the low-income people.

00:31:27.000 No, you are helping people who went to college, some of whom did not pay off their student loans.

00:31:32.000 You're helping a bunch of people who are middle income to upper income.

00:31:35.000 That is what you are doing here.

00:31:36.000 And you are doing it by subsidizing from people who either already paid their loans or people who never went to college in the first place.

00:31:42.000 This is a redistribution toward key demographic constituencies for the Democratic Party.

00:31:47.000 And they're lying to you when they say that they're doing this to help low-income people.

00:31:49.000 It's just not true.

00:31:51.000 You know, here's what I want to know.

00:31:53.000 I want to know how many members of the Biden administration are directly impacted by this.

00:31:57.000 I want to know.

00:31:58.000 I want to know.

00:31:59.000 Karine Jean-Pierre, she says, you know, she had to get a Pell Grant when she went to college.

00:32:01.000 OK.

00:32:02.000 And I want to know if you're actually getting your loan relief here.

00:32:06.000 I know that there are members of Congress who are.

00:32:08.000 We've already heard from people like Rashida Tlaib and we've heard from Ilhan Omar.

00:32:10.000 We've heard from AOC that they still have outstanding loan debt, which means that you're basically paying yourself, guys.

00:32:17.000 So, I want to know if Corinne Jean-Pierre still has outstanding loans that she's going to have relieved right here.

00:32:21.000 Here's Corinne Jean-Pierre talking about how she had to get a Pell Grant.

00:32:23.000 Well, first of all, you're welcome, since that's a taxpayer-funded Pell Grant.

00:32:27.000 I don't understand why the fact that you had to get a Pell Grant when you were in college means that now you should have your student loan relieved.

00:32:33.000 Explain.

00:32:35.000 When you look at the Pell Grant provision and you add that piece to it, that adds another, that could go up to $20,000, right?

00:32:44.000 And so that's incredibly targeted, that's really important.

00:32:47.000 Those borrowers who are on Pell Grant, let's think about this, right?

00:32:52.000 Some of us in here probably had gotten Pell Grant.

00:32:55.000 I had to get a Pell Grant when I went to college.

00:32:58.000 And those are families that are $60,000 households.

00:33:02.000 And that's nearly $60,000 per household.

00:33:06.000 And if you look at it by half, that's 30.

00:33:09.000 That's 30, part of that tranche is $30,000 people per household.

00:33:16.000 Well man, she's so bad at this. 1.00

00:33:20.000 Don't worry.

00:33:21.000 This is actually a program that is clearly designed to redistribute money to middle and upper income people who have college degrees in a higher income trajectory.

00:33:21.000 It's fair.

00:33:29.000 Those are the people who really are the poorest.

00:33:31.000 Meanwhile, you have Elizabeth Warren, who used to earn $400,000 a year teaching at Harvard Law School, lecturing you about the cost of higher education. 0.92

00:33:37.000 It's amazing.

00:33:38.000 You know, I think of the fairness argument this way.

00:33:42.000 I went to college.

00:33:43.000 My daddy was a janitor.

00:33:46.000 I went to college when it cost $50 a semester, when a part-time job would cover the cost of college tuition.

00:33:55.000 It doesn't do that anymore.

00:33:57.000 And that is a real generational fairness problem.

00:34:00.000 That opportunity is just not out there.

00:34:04.000 Why, Elizabeth? 0.77

00:34:05.000 Why are the costs up?

00:34:05.000 Why?

00:34:07.000 Explain.

00:34:08.000 I mean, really?

00:34:08.000 Why?

00:34:09.000 You're saying that you used to be able to go for like 50 bucks a semester?

00:34:11.000 So what changed?

00:34:12.000 And the answer is massive federal subsidization of education.

00:34:15.000 A massive change in the nature of the elites in the United States who now demand a college degree for you to be a janitor.

00:34:21.000 I mean, this is the problem.

00:34:23.000 And yet they're pressing forward as though this is done on behalf of the poor.

00:34:25.000 It's just, it's sickening.

00:34:26.000 Okay, what's even more sickening, truly sickening, I mean morally sickening, is what the White House is now doing to political opponents of their student loan bailout plan. 0.90

00:34:36.000 Okay, what they are doing right now is disgusting.

00:34:39.000 Truly morally egregious.

00:34:41.000 So the White House has decided that if you oppose Their giant boondoggle $500 billion bailout of the most privileged people in our society, namely college graduates and people who have student loan debt.

00:34:54.000 If you oppose that, we are going to name and shame you and come after you personally.

00:34:59.000 That's what this White House is very united.

00:35:00.000 They're all about unity and the beauty of all of us Americans.

00:35:05.000 We're in the same boat.

00:35:06.000 Now we are just going to jack you up and the way that we're going to jack you up.

00:35:11.000 If you are a political opponent of this, Then we are going to find out if you took any PPP money.

00:35:16.000 If you took PPP money, then we are going to name and shame you. 0.97

00:35:20.000 Okay, so, this is an unbelievably dishonest and disgusting argument.

00:35:24.000 This is the Paycheck Protection Program under the Small Business Administration.

00:35:28.000 So, I got a taste of this myself over the last couple of days.

00:35:31.000 Okay, because I said, generally when you take out a loan, you should pay off your loans.

00:35:34.000 I know this has become like some sort of sign of moral disrepair to say that if you take out money, you should actually pay back the money.

00:35:42.000 Because we live in the stupidest of all possible times in which it is considered more moral to have somebody else pay your bills than for you to pay your own bills.

00:35:49.000 I understand there's an entire wing of American politics that now suggests that you are morally superior if you steal other people's money. 0.97

00:35:54.000 Bernie Sanders is morally superior because he wants to steal my money and give it to somebody else.

00:35:59.000 Redistributing from A to B by sticking your hand in A's pocket, even if A already paid off his student loans and B didn't.

00:36:07.000 That's more morally, you're morally superior human being.

00:36:09.000 And this means that we can rip the living crap out of you if you are a person who actually paid your taxes and paid off your loans. 1.00

00:36:15.000 And the way that we're going to rip you is by calling you a hypocrite. 0.99

00:36:18.000 And what we're gonna try and do is dig up material showing that you took Paycheck Protection Program money. 0.98

00:36:22.000 So, a couple of days ago, around the internet, I'm talking about hundreds of thousands of retweets, there was a screencap of a person, I mentioned this yesterday on the show, named Ben Shapiro, in Los Angeles, who owns a real estate office, and who took something like 20 grand in PPP money.

00:36:38.000 I don't know that Ben Shapiro, I never heard that Ben Shapiro, it ain't me.

00:36:41.000 Around the internet, it rocketed because since I was against student loan bailouts, I must have taken PPP money. 0.95

00:36:48.000 This made me a hypocrite.

00:36:49.000 Twitter, which has been just cracking down on misinformation, obviously. 0.85

00:36:53.000 I mean, Twitter just hates misinformation.

00:36:55.000 They allowed this stuff to rocket around the internet.

00:36:56.000 All those tweets are still up.

00:36:58.000 They're a lie, and they're not true.

00:37:00.000 But even if they had been true, which they are not, Daily Wire has never taken a dime in PPP money.

00:37:04.000 I have not taken a dime in PPP money, even if that were true.

00:37:08.000 The attempt, and this has become now, this White House is very online, the attempt by the left to equate taking PPP money with a student loan bailout is disgusting.

00:37:17.000 It is a morally egregious thing to do.

00:37:20.000 What the Biden administration is doing right now to target people who oppose it is really disreputable.

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00:39:03.000 So how disgusting is this, White House?

00:39:05.000 Comparing PPP to student loan bailouts is disreputable.

00:39:09.000 It really is.

00:39:09.000 A student loan bailout is where you took a loan, voluntarily, in order to go get a degree, in whatever it is you chose to get a degree, and then you chose not to pay off that loan.

00:39:18.000 Or you couldn't pay off that loan because you made a bad decision to take the loan in the first place.

00:39:21.000 That is not even remotely close to what happened under Paycheck Protection.

00:39:25.000 Paycheck Protection Program was effectively a Fifth Amendment taking.

00:39:28.000 What happened is that the federal and state governments told you at the beginning of COVID to shut down your business.

00:39:33.000 They told you that you would be punished by law if you opened your business.

00:39:37.000 I was living in LA County at the time.

00:39:38.000 If you went in and opened your business, you would be fined.

00:39:41.000 The police would come and shut down your establishment.

00:39:44.000 We had to close our offices.

00:39:46.000 Hey, this is something that the government mandated.

00:39:48.000 It was not something we did voluntarily.

00:39:49.000 We would have had our offices open.

00:39:51.000 Our employees were young.

00:39:52.000 Our employees were healthy.

00:39:53.000 We had to shut it down anyway by local law.

00:39:53.000 Didn't matter.

00:39:56.000 And so what the federal government did, and this had bipartisan approval across the board, everyone, right, left, center, agreed on this.

00:40:03.000 And the idea was, if we're going to force you to shut down your business, then we have two choices.

00:40:07.000 Your employees are all either going to go on unemployment, which is going to bankrupt the unemployment system, or we are going to effectively fill in the gap that we just created.

00:40:14.000 We told you you could not open your business.

00:40:17.000 We took property without just compensation.

00:40:20.000 And so now we're going to compensate you for that.

00:40:22.000 And so if you were a company, you were assured by the government, if you were a company and you took that money and you paid your employees to keep them operating, to make sure that they could pay their bills and get groceries for their family, that if you did those things, that you would then be compensated by the government because the government had forced you to shut down your business.

00:40:40.000 And there was nothing morally bad about this.

00:40:43.000 That this did not make you some sort of government debtor.

00:40:47.000 This didn't make you some sort of deadbeat.

00:40:49.000 And what this was, was the government actively telling you you could not operate in the free market, and so therefore the government had to compensate for this.

00:40:55.000 That's what PPP was.

00:40:57.000 That's why it had bipartisan approval.

00:40:58.000 That's why people like me, I'm as fiscally conservative as it gets.

00:41:02.000 Even I was saying, okay, if the government is telling you, literally you can't, the analogy that I use is if the government drives a Ford F-150 truck through the front door of your home, they are then going to have to pay you to fix the home.

00:41:14.000 Because that's what the government did, economically speaking, to hundreds of thousands of businesses across the country.

00:41:18.000 And so lots of business owners applied for and got PPP grants, right, forgivable loans.

00:41:23.000 That's what they did.

00:41:24.000 So now, many of those business owners are saying, because they paid their taxes, because they actually used that money to pay their employees, because they were told by the government they could not operate in the free market space, if you now oppose the government bailing out a bunch of art history and lesbian dance theory majors over at Brown University, if you oppose that, the White House will name you, and they will shame you, and they will claim that you are a deadbeat. 0.88

00:41:48.000 This is disgusting.

00:41:49.000 It truly is.

00:41:50.000 So the White House has now an entire tweet thread calling out Republican members of Congress who owned businesses and who took PPP money to pay their employees.

00:42:00.000 So the White House tweeted out Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene had $183,504 in PPP loans forgiven.

00:42:07.000 And they named Congressman Bern Buchanan, who had $2.3 million in PPP loans forgiven.

00:42:11.000 Congressman Mark Wayne Mullen, $1.4 million in PPP loans forgiven.

00:42:16.000 Oh, you mean because you told them that they couldn't operate their businesses and you wanted their employees to continue getting paid on a bipartisan basis?

00:42:23.000 And now you're saying that they don't have the ability or the right or the moral wherewithal to object to deadbeat lenders receiving a bailout from the government and deadbeat borrowers receiving a bailout from the government?

00:42:34.000 This is...

00:42:35.000 This is the comparison that you're making.

00:42:38.000 It just demonstrates you cannot trust people in government when it comes to quote-unquote no strings attached grants.

00:42:45.000 You can't.

00:42:46.000 They're dishonest. 1.00

00:42:46.000 They're damned liars. 1.00

00:42:48.000 The government literally said in 2020 shut down your business and here are some grants to keep your employees operating. 0.99

00:42:56.000 Two years later, two years, the current White House is saying to every small business owner in the country that if you took PPP money to keep your employees afloat so they didn't have to go to the food bank, for example, that if you took that money and you had to take it because the government told you you had to take it, that if you took that money, you now no longer have the right to object to the socialization of the American educational system.

00:43:18.000 You don't have the right to object to it.

00:43:20.000 So in other words, the government used its force to shut down your business.

00:43:23.000 Which effectually meant that you had to take government money.

00:43:27.000 And now that we've shoved this heroin of government money into your arm, we are now going to say that you no longer have the right to object to us shoving that heroin into anybody else.

00:43:36.000 You can't object to you becoming a subsidizer of the heroin injections that are government subsidies.

00:43:42.000 It's an amazing thing.

00:43:44.000 There are always strings attached.

00:43:46.000 The government has the plenary power to ruin you financially and reputationally.

00:43:49.000 They ruin you financially to shut down your business.

00:43:52.000 And then if you take the money, they ruin your reputation. 0.84

00:43:54.000 All right, so let me just explain that the same jackasses who are attacking the businesses who took government cash to keep their employees operational. 0.87

00:44:02.000 Those same jackasses who are attacking businesses are currently saying that the continuing COVID emergency justifies bailing out predatory college lenders and irresponsible student borrowers. 0.89

00:44:12.000 There's no moral principle at stake here. 0.91

00:44:14.000 There's just whatever is the latest baton that you can wield against business owners.

00:44:20.000 There's a frequent hallmark of the political left, is that they skew the free market, they destroy the free market, and then, after destroying the free market, they blame the free market for all of the shortcomings that they themselves have created.

00:44:35.000 The true moral disgustingness, it really is a moral issue.

00:44:40.000 When you attack a business, after destroying the business, And the business has to take money from the government in order to pay its employees.

00:44:46.000 When you then attack the business for opposing future bailouts that affect that business, that affect them as taxpayers, that affect the employees, that are redistribution on behalf of political interests that the White House is pressing without constitutional authority.

00:44:59.000 You want to talk semi-fascism?

00:45:01.000 That's what semi-fascism looks like. 1.00

00:45:03.000 Disgusting stuff. 0.96

00:45:04.000 Alrighty guys, the rest of the show is continuing now.

00:45:06.000 You don't want to miss it.

00:45:07.000 We'll be getting into what is, effectually, the greatest trailer in the history of television.

00:45:12.000 Apple TV Plus has a brand new series called Gutsy from Hillary Clinton.

00:45:16.000 We're going to play the trailer and discuss this.

The Ben Shapiro Show - August 26, 2022

I Am Darth Vader | Ep. 1562

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