The Ben Shapiro Show - Impeach Or Go Home | Ep. 888

00:00:00.000 Democrats vote to establish impeachment ground rules.

00:00:02.000 We may have learned the identity of the original whistleblower, and Nancy Pelosi comes out in strong defense of Katie Hill.

00:00:08.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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00:00:23.000 Okay, so.

00:00:24.000 Yesterday, impeachment got real because Democrats finally voted on procedures for impeachment.

00:00:29.000 Now, Republicans had been saying for a while that all of this was illegitimate because Democrats had not held an official vote on whether there ought to be an impeachment inquiry.

00:00:37.000 Basically, Nancy Pelosi had gone out there and said, impeachment inquiry declared. 1.00

00:00:41.000 That has no legal status.

00:00:42.000 It has no legal effect.

00:00:43.000 She's the Speaker of the House, but she is saying a thing.

00:00:45.000 It's the equivalent of Michael Scott declaring bankruptcy in the office by standing in the middle of the office and shouting, I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY!

00:00:52.000 So Republicans kept saying, well, you've established no procedures.

00:00:55.000 The procedures that you haven't established are obviously bad for us.

00:00:58.000 All of this stuff is being hidden behind closed doors.

00:01:01.000 So how are we supposed to take any of this seriously?

00:01:04.000 Well, the Democrats were holding off from officially declaring an impeachment inquiry And setting the ground rules because they didn't really know where this was going to go.

00:01:11.000 Originally, all of this was expected to be quick and dirty.

00:01:14.000 Originally, the Democrats said that within a month, like by Halloween, they were already going to be voting on impeachment.

00:01:19.000 Why?

00:01:20.000 Because they felt like the transcript of the call was going to be the nail upon which they hung the impeachment.

00:01:24.000 And then, that was going to be it.

00:01:26.000 Right, they were just going to move forward.

00:01:27.000 It was going to be completely partisan.

00:01:28.000 They were just going to do their interviews behind closed doors, vote for impeachment, done.

00:01:32.000 And then the Senate presumably acquit the president and we'd all move on to the election.

00:01:37.000 Well, as they have dug into this, they actually think they have something here.

00:01:40.000 This is what this vote betrays.

00:01:43.000 The Democrats actually believe that they now have enough material to at least damage President Trump.

00:01:47.000 And let's be straight about this.

00:01:48.000 In order for Republicans in the Senate to vote to actually convict the president and remove him from office, it's going to take a lot more than what Democrats have right now.

00:01:56.000 Again, the entire allegation against President Trump relies on his intent, on his intent level.

00:02:01.000 Was he intending to militarize a foreign government by using taxpayer dollars as leverage to get them specifically to target an American citizen, Joe Biden, for political purposes?

00:02:11.000 Not as part of a broader anti-corruption rubric, not as part of a broader 2016 investigation, not as part of a broader anti-Ukrainian agenda.

00:02:19.000 As part of a, I want Joe Biden to go to jail in a foreign country thing.

00:02:23.000 And so I'm withholding American taxpayer dollars so that the Ukrainians will go get Joe and Hunter Biden, right? 1.00

00:02:28.000 That's always been the question.

00:02:29.000 And the transcript didn't clear that up.

00:02:31.000 None of the testimony so far has cleared that up.

00:02:33.000 I've been saying this for weeks now, probably months at this point.

00:02:36.000 The fact is that unless Trump testifies or Rudy Giuliani testifies, those are the only two people who really know what the president's intent was in all of this.

00:02:44.000 Because the president's intent Let's just say it's a skittish thing.

00:02:48.000 It tends to move around a lot.

00:02:49.000 President Trump is not a guy who plans one year in advance what he's going to say.

00:02:53.000 He doesn't plan five seconds in advance what he's going to say.

00:02:56.000 He is a bundle of sort of reactions.

00:02:58.000 And so I've been saying the whole time, I think that this whole phone call with the Ukrainians, his whole Ukrainian policy here, is basically just a reaction to Rudy Giuliani telling him things.

00:03:07.000 The person at fault here, yes, the president for not actively We're actively failing to recognize what Rudy Giuliani was doing.

00:03:17.000 Yes, the president should have should have not taken Giuliani so seriously, but Giuliani was the one who was feeding all this information to Trump.

00:03:22.000 Trump was taking all of that, wrapping it up in his mind with Ukrainian corruption and then talking to the Ukrainians about it in the same way because he does this with everything.

00:03:29.000 He does this with every single topic.

00:03:31.000 Every topic, the President of the United States has sort of this file card, right, like almost just a note card, a three by five, that has like a few ideas on it, and he just spits them out if you give him the topic.

00:03:43.000 So you say global warming and he'll go, Chinese hoax, spend too much money, like it's just a bunch of ideas that come in response to a stimulus.

00:03:50.000 And the same thing happens with regard to Ukraine.

00:03:53.000 Somebody says Ukraine to him, and the first thing that he thinks is, Ukraine, 2016, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, like it's not that he is thinking this thing out.

00:04:01.000 This has been my entire contention.

00:04:03.000 Now, does that mean he did something smart here?

00:04:05.000 No.

00:04:05.000 Does it mean that he did something that a president should do?

00:04:08.000 Does it mean that it's impeachable?

00:04:08.000 No.

00:04:10.000 Also no.

00:04:10.000 That's been my case in defense of President Trump.

00:04:13.000 Well, Democrats believe they've got enough politically damaging material on Trump that now they're going to move forward with a formal impeachment inquiry and call the Republican bluff to the extent that they have now fully voted on at least opening the impeachment inquiry.

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00:05:38.000 Last night, the House passed an impeachment resolution along basic partisan lines.

00:05:44.000 Only two Democrats voted against.

00:05:46.000 Only one Republican voted in favor.

00:05:48.000 That would be Justin Amash, who was recently re-registered as an independent.

00:05:52.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, the House passed a resolution almost entirely along party lines to initiate the public phase of an inquiry into President Trump's dealings with Ukraine, setting a blueprint for the fourth presidential impeachment investigation in American history.

00:06:04.000 The 232-196 vote underscored the sharp partisan divide in Washington over impeachment.

00:06:09.000 All Democrats but two supported the measure.

00:06:11.000 All Republicans rejected.

00:06:12.000 The independent, Amash, who used to be Republican, voted yes on the measure.

00:06:17.000 Though the move, according to the Wall Street Journal, will make the investigation more public, including the likelihood of televised hearings, no timeframe was given for when that will happen.

00:06:24.000 The resolution authorizes the House Intelligence Committee to release transcripts from past closed-door interviews with witnesses and gives more power to Republicans, including the right to call their own witnesses, though those requests are subject to approval by Democrats.

00:06:36.000 So, in reality, This thing is still going to be kept largely behind closed doors.

00:06:41.000 It's still going to be handled by the majority.

00:06:44.000 This is not a shock.

00:06:45.000 Republicans who are acting outraged at the fact that the Democrats are going to veto witness requests and subpoena requests from Republicans, that's sort of how this works.

00:06:54.000 I mean, the majority does have the power to do that as a general rule.

00:06:58.000 With that said, Once this moves into the Judiciary Committee, it becomes incredibly public.

00:07:02.000 So the basic Democratic plan is have Schiff, who is a partisan hack of the highest order, right?

00:07:07.000 The guy who is spending every five seconds on the CNN cameras talking about how the Mueller report was definitely going to take down Trump.

00:07:14.000 He had set up an actual pup tent outside the green room at CNN.

00:07:18.000 He just spends his days over there.

00:07:19.000 Like he would bring a thermos and a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and just wait for the producers at CNN to call him up.

00:07:24.000 And then he would just walk one foot into the CNN studios and do a hit.

00:07:28.000 Well, now Adam Schiff is going to be running this thing.

00:07:30.000 Yes, it will still be behind closed doors.

00:07:33.000 They have the authority to release transcripts from past closed-door interviews, but that authority does not necessarily have to be exercised.

00:07:40.000 House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said ahead of the vote, if we don't have a system of checks and balances, we might as well just elect a president and go home.

00:07:47.000 She waved away GOP complaints, saying these rules are fairer than anything that has gone before in terms of an impeachment proceeding.

00:07:53.000 The two Democrats who opposed the measure were Representatives Jeff Van Drew of New Jersey and Colin Peterson of Minnesota.

00:07:58.000 Both of them are in Trump District circa 2016.

00:08:02.000 Republicans have said that this investigation is still a sham, that the procedures are still unfair.

00:08:08.000 House Republicans' campaign arm sent moving boxes to about 20 vulnerable Democrats' offices.

00:08:15.000 Trying to suggest that all of these swing Democrats are in serious trouble.

00:08:19.000 Democrats are buoyed by polling, however, that shows growing support for at least the impeachment inquiry.

00:08:24.000 So most Americans believe the impeachment inquiry should move forward.

00:08:28.000 Very few actually believe that there's enough evidence to go after Trump and impeach him now.

00:08:33.000 Which is probably why the Democrats are looking for the televised House hearings, right?

00:08:35.000 What they are trying to do is build momentum for the impeachment itself.

00:08:39.000 Because what they've done is they've pried open the door where Americans say, well, we'd like to hear more, but what you've got now is insufficient.

00:08:45.000 So Democrats are saying, well, how would you like it if we just spilled it all out in public?

00:08:48.000 This is a demonstration of a certain level of confidence by Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats.

00:08:52.000 There's no question about that.

00:08:54.000 The resolution passed on Thursday, according to the Wall Street Journal, will allow President Trump and his counsel to attend all Judiciary Committee hearings, cross-examine witnesses, and make closing presentations.

00:09:04.000 Republicans in the White House criticized the resolution because it doesn't give the president these rights while the investigation is run by the Intelligence Committee, as it currently is.

00:09:13.000 Democrats say this is still because this is early, we're in our information-gathering stage.

00:09:17.000 Now, here's the problem.

00:09:18.000 Once you say that you've opened the impeachment inquiry, Then it's hard to say that you are still in the information gathering stage.

00:09:23.000 Meaning, you can initiate any investigation at any time in the House of Representatives.

00:09:27.000 You don't have to officially open an impeachment inquiry in order to do all of that.

00:09:31.000 Once you officially open the impeachment inquiry, then it's pretty obvious what you're talking about now.

00:09:35.000 Now you're talking about impeachment.

00:09:36.000 You're not just talking about investigating a phone call.

00:09:39.000 You're not just talking about investigating, I guess, a potential crime, although nobody has been able to point to the statute that Trump allegedly violated here.

00:09:46.000 So the question becomes whether this is really still a sham process.

00:09:50.000 Republicans were complaining it was being done by the Intel Committee behind closed doors.

00:09:53.000 It's still being done by the Intel Committee behind closed doors.

00:09:56.000 But now Democrats are saying openly, we'll push it over to the Judiciary Committee.

00:10:00.000 At that point, it becomes public.

00:10:01.000 At that point, Trump can have a representative question the witnesses.

00:10:04.000 But if you're the Judiciary Committee, you don't have to call anybody you don't want to call.

00:10:08.000 So it's still Pretty unfair to President Trump.

00:10:11.000 It's still pretty unfair to Republicans.

00:10:13.000 Again, there are consequences to losing the House of Representatives, as it turns out.

00:10:17.000 Which is true.

00:10:21.000 I mean, two things can be true at once.

00:10:26.000 One, Democrats are partisan hacks who want to destroy the President.

00:10:29.000 Two, there can be some open questions that probably should be asked about Trump's behavior with Ukraine.

00:10:35.000 The problem is that it's very difficult for the, it's going to be difficult for the American people to separate those two things.

00:10:40.000 And frankly, I'm not sure that they should.

00:10:41.000 I mean, it is pretty obvious that the Democrats have wanted to impeach Trump since the day that he was elected and they continue to want to impeach Trump.

00:10:48.000 And so when they stand there and say, we're just here defending the constitution, the American public is like, well, are you though?

00:10:55.000 Or is it just that you really, really, really hate Trump?

00:10:58.000 In the private depositions, according to the Wall Street Journal, that the House has already conducted, Republicans and Democrats on the three committees of jurisdiction have had equal time to question witnesses, but lawmakers not on the panels have also been excluded.

00:11:10.000 Conducting witness interviews behind closed doors has been pretty common in high-profile investigations run by both Republicans and Democrats.

00:11:16.000 Well, not impeachment inquiries.

00:11:17.000 Under GOP leadership, both the Senate and House Intelligence Committees conducted separate reviews of Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

00:11:23.000 They interviewed witnesses in private.

00:11:25.000 But again, there is a difference in kind between inquiries into particular events.

00:11:29.000 As I say, that would make sense.

00:11:31.000 And once you've declared this is about impeachment, at that point, we all know what this whole thing is.

00:11:34.000 At that point, we should really be hearing what is going on behind closed doors.

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00:13:03.000 So Republicans are really, really angry about the Democratic vote as well they should be.

00:13:08.000 Nancy Pelosi, by the way, if you think Nancy Pelosi really wasn't here to do the impeachment, she just sort of stumbled into it.

00:13:16.000 Sure.

00:13:17.000 Sure.

00:13:17.000 So back in March, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said that she would only move forward with Trump's impeachment if the move received significant bipartisan support.

00:13:24.000 Not a single Republican voted in favor.

00:13:26.000 The New York Times reported the vote was expected to be deeply partisan.

00:13:30.000 Pelosi claimed historically that she was not for impeachment.

00:13:32.000 This is all the way back in March, right?

00:13:34.000 So we're not talking about ancient history here.

00:13:36.000 She said impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless there's something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don't think we should go down that path because it divides the country.

00:13:43.000 He's just not worth it.

00:13:45.000 Well, weird, because now she doesn't care anymore. 0.99

00:13:48.000 Very, very weird.

00:13:48.000 By the way, back in 1998, she said similar stuff.

00:13:51.000 And when she was talking about the Clinton impeachment, she said impeachment is traumatic for the country.

00:13:55.000 You should really only do this if you have bipartisan support.

00:13:57.000 Because to move forward on an impeachment is very serious.

00:14:02.000 I think it has traumatic impact on the confidence that the American people have in government, that the world has in our president, and that we are setting a precedent Uh, that we, and I believe that we shouldn't be frivolous in how we go forward in punishing a president whose politics we don't approve of.

00:14:20.000 Well, flip the parties and obviously she flips on that nearly immediately. 0.98

00:14:23.000 She then came out yesterday and she said, listen, this is a tragic day for the country.

00:14:27.000 Oh, the crocodile tears just spilling down her well Botox cheeks.

00:14:31.000 I mean, this is crocodile tears, obviously.

00:14:33.000 She says, nobody comes, nobody comes to Congress to impeach a president.

00:14:37.000 Really?

00:14:37.000 How about like everyone elected in 2018?

00:14:39.000 Half the Democrats campaigned on that.

00:14:41.000 This is a sad day.

00:14:42.000 The crowd, the squad, they've all been saying for months.

00:14:45.000 Every major Democratic presidential candidate has said they want Trump impeached.

00:14:49.000 So nobody comes to Congress to impeach a president.

00:14:51.000 That's pretty much the only reason half the members of the Democratic caucus came to Congress in the first place.

00:14:55.000 Here's Nancy Pelosi just lying about it. - This is a sad day.

00:14:58.000 It's a sad day because nobody comes to Congress to impeach a president of the United States.

00:15:04.000 No one.

00:15:04.000 She can't hold back a smile while she's saying it's a sad day.

00:15:07.000 She's like, it's a sad day.

00:15:08.000 Look how sad I am.

00:15:10.000 I'm so sad about this whole impeachment thing.

00:15:11.000 Aren't you sad about it?

00:15:12.000 I'm so sad.

00:15:13.000 Yeah, she's very, very sad, Nancy Pelosi.

00:15:16.000 And then Adam Schiff does the same routine.

00:15:17.000 Adam Schiff, who has spent his entire waking life for the past several years talking about why President Trump should not be president, why the Mueller report was going to get him.

00:15:25.000 And then if the Mueller report wasn't going to get him, then racism was going to get him.

00:15:27.000 And if racism wasn't going to get him, Ukraine was going to get him. 0.99

00:15:30.000 Now you got Adam Schiff also doing me more in sadness than an anger routine.

00:15:34.000 Adam Schiff, I believe him.

00:15:36.000 I think he is totally broken up about this effort to impeach President Trump, Adam Schiff.

00:15:40.000 I don't think he's been spending every single breath he has from like 24 hours a day, even in his dreams, he is thinking about how he gets rid of Trump and then stands on the steps of the Capitol building and talks about what a hero he is.

00:15:53.000 Here is Adam Schiff pretending to be very sad about all of this.

00:15:57.000 We take no joy in having to move down this road and proceed with the impeachment inquiry.

00:16:04.000 But neither do we shrink from it.

00:16:06.000 Okay, sure.

00:16:06.000 You take no joy in it.

00:16:07.000 And then he goes back to the back room and he puts on some Queen and does a happy dance.

00:16:12.000 It's very obvious what's going on here.

00:16:14.000 And this is why, again, I don't think that most Americans truly believe that the Democrats are doing this in good faith.

00:16:19.000 So, they're saying, we're willing to hear it.

00:16:22.000 The American people are taking the correct attitude about this.

00:16:24.000 They are.

00:16:25.000 I know there are a lot of Republicans who say, no, the American people should just reject all impeachment inquiry out of hand.

00:16:30.000 That's not the job of the American people.

00:16:32.000 The American people should keep their minds open to new information, just as they were with the Mueller report.

00:16:36.000 But just as with the Mueller report, there was no support for impeachment, there was no support for getting rid of President Trump, and the American public did not draw conclusions about Trump-Russia collusion.

00:16:44.000 They just said, listen, we want to wait and see all the information.

00:16:47.000 This should be the new slogan of the show, right?

00:16:49.000 You got Washington Post with its nonsense declaration, democracy dies in darkness.

00:16:53.000 But the slogan of our show should be, let's wait for the info, right?

00:16:55.000 I mean, because that's really what I say half the time, is just wait for the information.

00:17:00.000 Here, let's wait for the information.

00:17:02.000 All I'm saying is that if you actually believe that Democrats are not partisan hacks here, I don't know what planet you are living on.

00:17:07.000 Wait until you see Eric Swalwell doing the same routine.

00:17:09.000 I mean, they're just bad actors, right?

00:17:11.000 I mean, it's just bad acting.

00:17:13.000 They need to go to the Lee Strasberg School of Acting because they're just bad.

00:17:17.000 Eric Swalwell, who spends Who spends all of his time thinking about nuking gun-owning Americans.

00:17:25.000 He lasted in the presidential race for a grand total of 3.7 seconds, in which he completely humiliated himself.

00:17:30.000 Eric Swalwell, who constantly talks about getting rid of Trump, says, This is a very solemn day.

00:17:34.000 It's so solemn.

00:17:35.000 The solemnity of this day.

00:17:37.000 I mean, my God, it's like a wedding or a funeral, the solemnity of this day.

00:17:41.000 Eric Swalwell talking about the solemnness of this solemn, solemn day.

00:17:45.000 You know, today was a solemn day.

00:17:46.000 It's one that none of us, you know, really look forward to.

00:17:49.000 But you're right, we did afford, as we move to this public phase, a process.

00:17:53.000 A process for the President as well as for Republicans.

00:17:56.000 I can't control how they spend their time, but it is time for them to get serious about what is alleged.

00:18:03.000 I mean, he can barely hold back the smiles.

00:18:03.000 He's so happy.

00:18:05.000 It is hilarious to watch Democrats pretend to be bipartisan with not a single Republican supporter.

00:18:10.000 It's funny to watch them act as though they are doing this not because they hate Trump, but because they just care about the Constitution of the United States.

00:18:17.000 As we'll see in a little while, the Democrats are not particularly interested in corruption.

00:18:21.000 They don't care about corruption.

00:18:22.000 Okay?

00:18:22.000 At the same time that they are talking about impeaching President Trump and all of this, which again, open questions on what Trump did, They are out there fulsomely defending Katie Hill, who is stooping nearly every member of her congressional staff, male and female.

00:18:35.000 They're out there defending that.

00:18:37.000 Nancy Pelosi was out there defending that.

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00:20:05.000 Okay, so.

00:20:07.000 The Democrats who are spending, again, an enormous amount of time talking about how much they hate corruption, despise corruption.

00:20:16.000 It's not so true when it's Katie Hill.

00:20:18.000 So Katie Hill is this Democrat from California who, again, is under investigation for ethics violations. 1.00

00:20:23.000 It turns out you're not supposed to shtoop people, you're paying with congressional dollars.

00:20:27.000 That's a violation of the House rules.

00:20:29.000 Well, she had to resign. 0.99

00:20:30.000 On her way out the door, she ripped shameless Republicans and gutter operators. 1.00

00:20:35.000 Here is Katie Hill, Playing the victim as she made her way slowly. 0.97

00:20:39.000 I mean, they had to rip her out the door. 1.00

00:20:40.000 She said, at the end of her speech, she said, I'm yielding the rest of my time, but not forever.

00:20:45.000 I'll be back.

00:20:46.000 No, you won't.

00:20:47.000 You're done.

00:20:47.000 Sorry.

00:20:48.000 Nobody's looking forward to electing you.

00:20:50.000 You seem dissolute. 0.99

00:20:51.000 You seem as though you can't get your act together, and it seems as though you're using your congressional offices as a sort of personal sexual playground. 0.87

00:20:58.000 I don't think that many people are in favor of that. 0.58

00:21:00.000 I'm very much amused by the idea that Katie Hill is being targeted because she's a woman. 0.99

00:21:05.000 I'm really amused by this.

00:21:07.000 Do you believe that if Katie Hill were a man, stripping a male subordinate and a female subordinate in his own office, that that person would not be forced to step down?

00:21:16.000 Do you really believe that?

00:21:17.000 Or would this thing have been so much worse?

00:21:19.000 There'd be no media defenders.

00:21:21.000 Now there are lots of media defenders, because Katie Hill's a woman, and because she is bisexual, that means she's part of the intersectional hierarchy, but... 1.00

00:21:27.000 If you were a white male Republican doing the same thing with the same people, then it would be, look at this piece of crap. 1.00

00:21:34.000 This piece of crap has to go. 1.00

00:21:35.000 Like, we all know what this is. 1.00

00:21:37.000 But the Democrats are out defending it.

00:21:39.000 Here was Katie Hill yesterday announcing that this was all about shameless Republicans and gutter operators. 1.00

00:21:44.000 Weird.

00:21:45.000 The House is controlled by Democrats right now.

00:21:46.000 So if you wished to stick around, you could.

00:21:49.000 You could try your luck.

00:21:50.000 It seems to me that probably you were getting some pressure not from Republicans to step down, but from Democrats.

00:21:54.000 Here's Katie Hill. 1.00

00:21:55.000 I'm leaving because I didn't want to be peddled by papers and blogs and websites, used by shameless operatives for the dirtiest gutter politics that I've ever seen, and the right-wing media to drive clicks and expand their audience by distributing intimate photos of me, taken without my knowledge, let alone my consent, for the sexual entertainment of millions.

00:22:16.000 Okay, well, I don't know when those photos were taken.

00:22:18.000 According to media reports, some of the photos she posted along with her husband online.

00:22:22.000 So, that's a her problem.

00:22:24.000 I mean, if those media reports are true, that is a her problem.

00:22:27.000 That is not the fault of Red State.

00:22:28.000 That is not the fault of the UK Daily Mail.

00:22:30.000 That is her problem.

00:22:31.000 Also, her problem, don't F your staffers. 0.97

00:22:34.000 Okay, like, I don't know what to tell you, lady. 1.00

00:22:37.000 Bad idea to do this.

00:22:37.000 Bad idea.

00:22:39.000 It's a violation of congressional ethics.

00:22:40.000 And yes, if you were a man, it would be much worse for you.

00:22:43.000 Not like a little worse, much worse for you.

00:22:45.000 Hey, but Nancy Pelosi was out there defending Katie Hill. 1.00

00:22:49.000 Don't tell me the Democrats are deeply, they're deeply committed to fighting corruption in every aspect of American life, except when a congressional, when an elected congressperson is stripping half her staff and paying them at the same time, then Nancy Pelosi, The same Nancy Pelosi is like, more in sadness than in anger.

00:23:04.000 It's not partisan.

00:23:05.000 We're not going after Trump for partisan reasons.

00:23:06.000 In fact, we're sad to do it today.

00:23:08.000 But this Katie Hill, she's a delight.

00:23:10.000 And I wish she would remain, says Nancy Pelosi.

00:23:13.000 Katie Hill's decision to resign is her decision to resign.

00:23:19.000 She's an absolutely outstanding young public servant.

00:23:24.000 Very smart, strategic, patriotic, loves our country, respected by her colleagues in the Congress for the work that she does here.

00:23:33.000 She made her decision and her timing, and I respect that.

00:23:39.000 Is that true?

00:23:40.000 Is that true?

00:23:43.000 I don't think so.

00:23:44.000 I respect her timing.

00:23:45.000 She stepped down.

00:23:46.000 I wish she would stick around.

00:23:47.000 Sure you do, Nancy.

00:23:48.000 Sure you do.

00:23:48.000 This had nothing to do with you going to Katie Hill and saying, you know, lady, I might want to resign.

00:23:52.000 It had nothing to do with Nancy Pelosi forcing her out.

00:23:54.000 I love her. 0.98

00:23:55.000 Well respected by her by her colleagues, especially the ones she's having sex with. 0.84

00:23:59.000 I mean, like, really?

00:24:00.000 So when I say that I have trust issues with the Democrats when it comes to their honesty on issues like impeachment, There's a reason I'm saying that.

00:24:10.000 By the way, I have trust issues with the media, too.

00:24:11.000 The media that wants to root out corruption.

00:24:13.000 They are really angry about corruption.

00:24:14.000 Except, again, when there's an ethics investigation into a sitting congresswoman who was apparently sexually using the help. 0.95

00:24:23.000 Right?

00:24:23.000 I mean, like, that's a...

00:24:25.000 Wait until you hear the media's take on Katie Hill leaving versus imagine for just a second it were President Trump. 0.70

00:24:30.000 Imagine President Trump were having an affair, I know this is weird, with one of his male staffers and one of his female staffers while the White House is paying them.

00:24:37.000 Do you think that maybe the media might be less sympathetic?

00:24:40.000 Less sympathetic?

00:24:41.000 Wait until you hear the media's coverage of the Katie Hill debacle.

00:24:44.000 It's really amazing.

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00:26:15.000 Okay, well, as I say, the media reaction to Katie Hill Let's just say it's a little bit different than the media reaction to the Trump impeachment.

00:26:22.000 So the media reaction to the Trump impeachment is like, yeah, Trump has to go.

00:26:26.000 Trump definitely did something very, very bad and very, very wrong.

00:26:28.000 And then when it's Katie Hill, the media mourn it.

00:26:31.000 And it's because she's a victim.

00:26:33.000 She's a victim, you see.

00:26:34.000 Now, I've said all along since day one of the Katie Hill debacle that if, in fact, people were releasing revenge porn on her, they should go to jail.

00:26:42.000 That is a crime in the state of California.

00:26:44.000 It should be a crime, right?

00:26:45.000 She is a victim of people who are doing that to her.

00:26:48.000 Also, she's involved in pretty severe ethics violations if she is doing what she is alleged to have been doing, and she was, because The material is out there.

00:26:57.000 I mean, the pictures are there.

00:26:58.000 That is what it is.

00:26:59.000 The media though, they're mourning Katie Hill.

00:27:01.000 Oh, Katie Hill.

00:27:02.000 Again, imagine she were a man for half a second. 0.99

00:27:04.000 Not even a Republican man.

00:27:05.000 Imagine she were a Democrat man. 0.99

00:27:06.000 All we would get for weeks on end is toxic masculinity. 1.00

00:27:10.000 Men are pigs. 1.00

00:27:11.000 This is why we need more women in Congress. 1.00

00:27:13.000 By the way, you know who used to say that?

00:27:14.000 Katie Hill.

00:27:15.000 Back in 2017, she had an entire tweet with a list of men who were sexual abusers or accused of sexual harassment.

00:27:22.000 And she said, this is why we need more women in Congress. 1.00

00:27:25.000 What, to act just like those dudes?

00:27:26.000 I mean, like, I'm very confused, Katie Hill.

00:27:28.000 And anyway, in any case, the people over at the Washington Free Beacon put together this supercut of the media mourning Katie Hill.

00:27:35.000 It is pretty astonishing.

00:27:37.000 She did resign today. 1.00

00:27:38.000 It's been a difficult week for Katie Hill.

00:27:40.000 This is pretty shocking.

00:27:43.000 Turn of events.

00:27:43.000 She was such a star.

00:27:44.000 And it's unfortunate because she was a rising star.

00:27:47.000 A first-term representative considered a rising star.

00:27:49.000 Yeah, she was a rising star.

00:27:51.000 She was a rising star.

00:27:52.000 The rising star in the Democratic Party.

00:27:54.000 Considered a rising star.

00:27:55.000 There's no doubt she was one of the named ones that we know about.

00:27:58.000 For the big blue wave.

00:27:59.000 Another tragic case.

00:28:00.000 She was such an up-and-rising, great star.

00:28:02.000 She was an up-and-coming star.

00:28:03.000 Really, was.

00:28:03.000 She flipped her district from red to blue.

00:28:05.000 It's a loss.

00:28:07.000 But, you know, I think there's a double, double standard on the Hill.

00:28:11.000 Yeah, and she was young and soon going to be the face of the party.

00:28:14.000 I think the whole situation is quite unfortunate.

00:28:16.000 I don't feel it was the right move.

00:28:18.000 I feel that there is incredible hypocrisy that goes on. 0.68

00:28:22.000 Nancy Pelosi is...

00:28:24.000 Okay, so, pretty amazing.

00:28:34.000 The bad guys won here.

00:28:35.000 Which bad guys?

00:28:36.000 Which bad guys?

00:28:37.000 You mean Nancy Pelosi who told her to step down, in all likelihood?

00:28:40.000 Nancy Pelosi's trying to backfill that now, saying, no, I didn't tell her to step down. 0.99

00:28:43.000 The media rushing to Katie Hill's defense.

00:28:46.000 Let's just say that they do not have tons of credibility when it comes to, we are the corruption fighters.

00:28:51.000 It seems to me that your agenda is pretty clear.

00:28:53.000 Now, with that said, I've been saying all along, there's still open questions about President Trump's conduct with regard to Ukraine.

00:28:59.000 Now, there was a piece of testimony that was pushed out there yesterday, and the media jumped all over it.

00:29:04.000 This was the testimony of Tim Morrison.

00:29:06.000 Tim Morrison is a senior White House official who listened to President Trump's controversial call with Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky, according to the Daily Beast.

00:29:13.000 And they were pushing out this testimony, the Democrats were, the media were, because they were suggesting that he was deeply worried about the phone call.

00:29:19.000 But there's one thing that he said in his testimony that kind of is the crux of the matter.

00:29:25.000 Quote, I want to be clear.

00:29:27.000 I was not concerned that anything illegal was discussed.

00:29:29.000 Isn't that the whole thing?

00:29:32.000 Isn't that the whole thing?

00:29:33.000 Like, Trump does stuff that's uncomfortable all the time.

00:29:36.000 It's called, like, Trump.

00:29:38.000 There's not even... That's what he does.

00:29:40.000 I mean, watch his Twitter account.

00:29:41.000 If you want to be made uncomfortable at least once every week, just watch his Twitter account.

00:29:44.000 It's not difficult.

00:29:45.000 We all know this.

00:29:46.000 This is all baked into the cake, okay?

00:29:47.000 No surprises here.

00:29:48.000 The question is, did he do something illegal?

00:29:51.000 So, he said two things in his testimony.

00:29:54.000 One of them was widely covered by the media, one not so much.

00:29:56.000 The one not so much was he didn't do anything illegal.

00:29:58.000 The one that was widely covered is that after the call between Zelensky and Trump took place, Morrison directed that the transcript of it be put on a secret White House server.

00:30:06.000 He said that the memo the White House released about the call, to the best of his memory, is complete and thorough.

00:30:11.000 Okay, so that gives the lie to all of the testimony that was being put out there that the ellipses in the transcript of the call revealed the part where Trump offered to sign a personal check to Vladimir Zelensky if he prosecuted Joe Biden personally.

00:30:23.000 Like, that never happened.

00:30:24.000 The call is what the call is.

00:30:25.000 You can interpret it how you want to interpret it.

00:30:27.000 You can read it.

00:30:28.000 Apparently, President Trump wants to do a dramatic reading.

00:30:30.000 The latest news is that President Trump is so confident in the perfect phone call that he apparently wants to read the Ukraine call transcript to the American people.

00:30:40.000 This is where people around him should say, Mr. President, let's not.

00:30:44.000 Bad idea.

00:30:46.000 Bad ideas, Mr. President.

00:30:49.000 He wants to do a dramatic reading.

00:30:53.000 According to the Washington Examiner, a defiant President Trump signaled he will not cooperate with the Democratic Party's impeachment proceedings, insisting his telephone conversation with Volodymyr Zelensky was a good call, that he might read it aloud to Americans so they can see his point.

00:31:06.000 He said in an interview with the Washington Examiner, this is over a phone call.

00:31:10.000 That is a good call.

00:31:10.000 He said, at some point, I'm going to sit down.

00:31:12.000 Perhaps it's a fireside chat on live television, and I will read the transcript of the call because people have to hear it.

00:31:18.000 When you read it, it's a straight call.

00:31:21.000 Bad idea.

00:31:23.000 Why is this a bad idea?

00:31:24.000 Okay, first of all, then there will be audio of your voice reading the very things that you threatened Zelensky with.

00:31:29.000 Like, how is that?

00:31:31.000 You want to create campaign ads for Democrats?

00:31:32.000 I can't think of a much better way to do that.

00:31:34.000 Like, when you get to that line, I'm asking you for a favor.

00:31:37.000 Don't you think the Democrats are immediately gonna grab the audio of you saying that and put it at the lead of every single ad they run from now till the end of the election?

00:31:45.000 Like, what in the world?

00:31:47.000 This is why Republicans should, in Congress and elsewhere, Do not take your hints on the defense of the President from the President.

00:31:53.000 He's not a lawyer.

00:31:54.000 The lawyers he hires so far have been Michael Cohen, who's in jail, and Rudy Giuliani, who may go to jail.

00:31:59.000 So, like, just take a break, take a Valium, and think to yourself, What did Trump actually do here?

00:32:06.000 If you want to defend the President, if you want to defend Trump, think, like, how would be the best way to do that?

00:32:11.000 And the best way to do that is not please the baby.

00:32:14.000 Okay, like, I have a three-year-old.

00:32:15.000 He always wants to eat sweets.

00:32:17.000 I can give him sweets, he's gonna be fat and he'll die of diabetes.

00:32:19.000 Like, or I could just say, no, that's not a good idea.

00:32:22.000 When President Trump comes to defending himself, do not feed the baby the sweets.

00:32:27.000 Stop it.

00:32:27.000 No.

00:32:28.000 The answer is no.

00:32:29.000 And I hope to God somebody steps in with him and says, no, don't do that.

00:32:32.000 Because again, the Democrats have to prove something.

00:32:36.000 Right?

00:32:36.000 The Democrats have to prove something and they have not proved it yet.

00:32:38.000 And the American people don't believe they've proved it yet.

00:32:40.000 The American people are fine with asking questions.

00:32:42.000 They're always fine with asking questions.

00:32:43.000 Good for the American people.

00:32:45.000 But Democrats actually have to prove this stuff.

00:32:48.000 Okay, so as I say, the media were trying to turn Tim Morrison's... I mean, this is a perfect example of the media trying to spin a piece of testimony that's not actually great for the Democrats.

00:32:57.000 Tim Morrison said a couple of things, and only one of those things... only one of those things actually...

00:33:03.000 The one that helps Democrats, the others do not.

00:33:05.000 The one that helps Democrats is the idea that he put it on a secret White House server.

00:33:08.000 But even that doesn't really help the Democrats.

00:33:10.000 That's been common practice for years.

00:33:11.000 The New York Times already reported that.

00:33:13.000 Why has that been common practice for years?

00:33:15.000 Maybe because every single time Trump says anything, it gets leaked to the media.

00:33:19.000 So he's been putting it on the secret server for years.

00:33:21.000 Like he's been putting on this confidential server.

00:33:23.000 He can do that.

00:33:23.000 He's the president.

00:33:24.000 He can make things classified.

00:33:26.000 He can make things unclassified.

00:33:27.000 And then Morrison said two other things, right?

00:33:28.000 He said it wasn't illegal behavior.

00:33:31.000 He said that the president did not engage in illegal behavior and the transcript was complete.

00:33:35.000 None of that cuts in favor of Democrats.

00:33:38.000 But the headline, of course, is that the headline from Politico is that this particular official, Morrison, confirmed key testimony linking Trump to quid pro quo.

00:33:49.000 Listen, we know what happened here.

00:33:51.000 The White House should stop saying there was no quid pro quo.

00:33:53.000 There was a quid pro quo.

00:33:54.000 The question is whether it was a corrupt quid pro quo, as I've been saying for weeks.

00:33:58.000 Quid pro quos in foreign policy happen all the time.

00:34:00.000 You know what's a quid pro quo?

00:34:01.000 Joe Biden saying explicitly he was going to link foreign aid to Ukraine to them cleaning up their act on corruption.

00:34:06.000 That's a quid pro quo.

00:34:07.000 Is it an inappropriate quid pro quo?

00:34:09.000 Probably not.

00:34:11.000 The question is whether this is a violation of law in terms of being bribery or attempt to influence the election from outside or anything like that.

00:34:19.000 Now, as I say, Republicans are increasingly suspicious about all of this, mainly because Democrats continue to make Republicans suspicious about all of this.

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00:35:15.000 Okay, so what are the Republican defenses against all this going to be?

00:35:24.000 Well, first of all, they are going to cite the fact that this is indeed highly partisan, and they are going to cite to a report that was made by Paul Sperry yesterday at Real Clear Investigations, talking about who this whistleblower is.

00:35:34.000 According to Sperry, and according to sources inside various congressional committees, Sperry reports, the person is a guy named Eric Schiramella.

00:35:42.000 And apparently he is an associate.

00:35:44.000 He's a registered Democrat held over from the Obama White House.

00:35:47.000 He previously worked with VP Joe Biden.

00:35:49.000 He previously worked with former CIA Director John Brennan.

00:35:52.000 And he left his National Security Council posting in the White House's West Wing in mid-2017 amid concerns about negative leaks to the media.

00:35:59.000 He has since been returned to CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.

00:36:02.000 According to a former NSC official, according to Paul Sperry, he was accused of working against Trump and leaking against Trump.

00:36:08.000 Also, apparently he huddled for guidance with the staff of House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff.

00:36:13.000 So, if you are a Republican, of course, you have a lot of trust issues with this particular impeachment inquiry.

00:36:18.000 The whistleblower who apparently created the thing was a Democratic operative who was working for the National Security Council and then was booted from the NSC and back to CIA headquarters.

00:36:27.000 Because he didn't like Trump.

00:36:28.000 And then he was working with Adam Schiff behind closed doors.

00:36:30.000 And now you have Adam Schiff leading up an impeachment inquiry that does not have proper evidence.

00:36:35.000 So that gives Republicans a few lines of defense.

00:36:37.000 Basically, the Republican line of defense is sort of akin, but with more evidence, to the Hillary Clinton line of defense during the Clinton impeachment.

00:36:45.000 So she said there was a vast right-wing conspiracy.

00:36:47.000 The line on the right is going to be that this was a Democratic put-up job from the very start.

00:36:51.000 That everybody knew there was no illegal activity, but They were going to elevate activity about which they could rightly be concerned into impeachable activity because they were looking for an excuse to impeach.

00:37:02.000 Liz Cheney, who is the third-ranking member of the House on the Republican side, she said history will hold the Democrats responsible.

00:37:08.000 You saw Democrats on the floor of the House arguing that somehow it was Republicans who were putting politics above national security.

00:37:16.000 There is no one who has done that the way that Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff have done that.

00:37:21.000 History will hold them accountable.

00:37:23.000 History will judge them.

00:37:24.000 We're at a moment where the nation faces grave, significant, ongoing threats.

00:37:29.000 Okay, Kevin McCarthy, who is the House Minority Leader, he said something very similar.

00:37:33.000 He said, look, this is obviously not about what Trump did.

00:37:36.000 This is obviously about an attempt to undo the last election.

00:37:39.000 And when it comes to motives, he's right.

00:37:41.000 Again, two things can be true at once.

00:37:42.000 Democrats are badly motivated.

00:37:44.000 Also, there can be open questions about the Ukraine thing.

00:37:46.000 But what McCarthy says here is true.

00:37:48.000 Democrats are trying to impeach the president because they are scared they cannot defeat him at the ballot box.

00:37:55.000 That's not my words.

00:37:57.000 That's the words of my colleagues from the other side of the aisle that has offered impeachment three different times.

00:38:04.000 This impeachment is not only an attempt to undo the last election, it is an attempt to influence the next one as well.

00:38:12.000 Okay, and of course that is true.

00:38:13.000 Speaking of attempts to influence the next election, the media are cheering wildly as Twitter decides they're going to ban political ads.

00:38:20.000 Why do they want to ban political ads, the media?

00:38:22.000 Because then, guess who gets to be the middleman between the politicians and you?

00:38:26.000 The members of the media.

00:38:27.000 They don't want you to see direct appeals from politicians.

00:38:29.000 They don't want you to see Trump's actual ad.

00:38:31.000 What they want is for you not to see that ad.

00:38:33.000 They don't want it to pop up in your feed because you might be convinced by the ad.

00:38:37.000 Instead, they want you to read their garbage fact check of the ad.

00:38:40.000 Why? 0.56

00:38:40.000 Because it turns out that Trump's ad campaign is probably going to be pretty effective. 0.56

00:38:43.000 So during the World Series, the Trump campaign already ran one ad.

00:38:47.000 They ran an ad during the World Series.

00:38:48.000 The ad is actually Pretty good.

00:38:51.000 Here is the ad that the Trump campaign ran during the World Series.

00:38:54.000 President Trump is changing Washington, creating 6 million new jobs, 500,000 new manufacturing jobs, cutting illegal immigration in half, obliterating ISIS, their caliphate destroyed, their terrorist leader dead.

00:39:08.000 But the Democrats would rather focus on impeachment and phony investigations, ignoring the real issues.

00:39:14.000 But that's not stopping Donald Trump.

00:39:16.000 He's no Mr. Nice Guy, but sometimes it takes a Donald Trump to change Washington.

00:39:21.000 I'm Donald Trump, and I approve this message.

00:39:23.000 That's a good ad.

00:39:24.000 That's a good ad.

00:39:25.000 That is a good, strong ad.

00:39:26.000 The reason it's a good ad is because, again, even the Trump campaign is like, you may not like him, but you need him.

00:39:31.000 Right?

00:39:31.000 You don't like him, but you need him on that wall.

00:39:33.000 And that is Trump's best pitch.

00:39:35.000 Yeah, I'm going to say crazy things. 0.99

00:39:36.000 Yeah, I'm going to do ridiculous stuff. 0.71

00:39:37.000 But I took out Baghdadi, right? 0.97

00:39:40.000 The economy is really good.

00:39:42.000 I'm standing up to China. 0.99

00:39:44.000 Because if he just ran on his record, he'd win.

00:39:47.000 Right, so the ad campaign is going to be that.

00:39:48.000 So what you're going to see is an attempt, an overt attempt, by the members of the media to actually stop political advertising.

00:39:55.000 Why?

00:39:55.000 Because they know that if Trump runs an ad, they're just going to critique the ad.

00:39:59.000 And then the only thing you see is their critique of the ad, if you can't directly access the ad by going onto Facebook or Twitter.

00:40:05.000 That's why the media are wildly cheering a shutdown in core political speech by Twitter.

00:40:09.000 Twitter yesterday announced that they were going to not run any political ads, no ads by politicians.

00:40:15.000 And they said they're going to do this because they don't have the resources to fact-check the ads.

00:40:19.000 Well, they don't have the resources to fact-check every tweet either.

00:40:21.000 If they did, they'd have to shut down Twitter.

00:40:23.000 So what exactly are they talking about here?

00:40:25.000 What they're really talking about is shutting down the ability of campaigns to reach you.

00:40:29.000 They don't want Republican campaigns to reach you because they know full well that Democratic campaigns will reach you through the editorial board of the New York Times, through the shows at CNN.

00:40:37.000 There are two methods of receiving information.

00:40:39.000 One is through the media, and one is directly from politicians.

00:40:42.000 Trump has an uncanny ability to go around the media and directly address the American people.

00:40:46.000 He does it all the time.

00:40:47.000 That's what his Twitter account is really good for, for him.

00:40:49.000 That's why he's constantly talking it up.

00:40:51.000 What Democrats thus would like to do is deprive him of that second ability, so everything has to be filtered through the prism that the media are using.

00:41:00.000 And that's why they're attacking Mark Zuckerberg, right?

00:41:01.000 This is what you're seeing over at the New York Times every single day.

00:41:04.000 They're trying to browbeat Mark Zuckerberg into banning political advertising on Facebook.

00:41:08.000 Now, What they are neglecting is that at a certain point, this is going to come back and bite them too, right?

00:41:14.000 What happens when Planned Parenthood wants to run an ad?

00:41:16.000 Why is it that a politician should not be able to run an ad, but Planned Parenthood should be able to run an ad?

00:41:20.000 You're not fact-checking Planned Parenthood's ad, are you?

00:41:23.000 So this thing is going to extend out pretty radically. 0.98

00:41:25.000 Some of the accusations made against Zuckerberg are patently ridiculous.

00:41:28.000 So for example, Yesterday, Kara Swisher, who's just a god-awful columnist at the New York Times, she suggested that Mark Zuckerberg is allowing political ads on Facebook, not because he doesn't wish to quash free speech, but because he needs the profit.

00:41:42.000 Okay, the gross revenue of Facebook, you know how much of the gross revenue of Facebook is like direct political ads from campaigns?

00:41:49.000 It's a minute percentage, minute, minute percentage.

00:41:53.000 Now the media were saying just a second ago that when Facebook was fined some $5 billion for privacy violations, the fine wasn't big enough to affect their behavior.

00:42:00.000 I promise you that Facebook is not making $5 billion from political advertising.

00:42:05.000 They're probably not even making 500 million.

00:42:06.000 They're probably not making $5 million.

00:42:08.000 Maybe they're making $5 million, maybe.

00:42:10.000 From advertising.

00:42:11.000 This isn't about profit.

00:42:12.000 It's about the media wants an excuse to shut all this down. 0.97

00:42:14.000 So the dumbest column of the day along these lines comes courtesy of Aaron Sorkin, who frankly sounds like he's back on the sauce. 0.76

00:42:20.000 Aaron Sorkin has a piece today titled, An Open Letter to Mark Zuckerberg. 0.97

00:42:26.000 Says Mark, in 2010, I wrote The Social Network and I know you wish I hadn't.

00:42:30.000 You protested that the film was inaccurate and that Hollywood didn't understand that some people build things just for the sake of building them.

00:42:35.000 We do understand that.

00:42:36.000 We do it every day.

00:42:37.000 I didn't push back on your public accusation that the movie was a lie because I'd had my say in the theaters.

00:42:41.000 But you and I both know that the screenplay was vetted to within an inch of its life by a team of studio lawyers with one client and one goal.

00:42:47.000 Don't get sued by Mark Zuckerberg.

00:42:49.000 Okay, so first of all, that's a very different standard from it's true.

00:42:53.000 Not suable and true are two very different things.

00:42:56.000 In order for Zuckerberg to sue, you would have had to defame him.

00:42:59.000 It would have to be a particular standard.

00:43:02.000 It would have to be with malice, a malicious attempt to defame Zuckerberg.

00:43:06.000 So that's a pretty high standard.

00:43:07.000 That doesn't mean that the movie is true.

00:43:08.000 The movie is half fiction.

00:43:09.000 In any case, what Sorkin then goes on to say is absurd.

00:43:12.000 He says, I didn't push back on your public accusation that the movie was a lie.

00:43:16.000 It was hard not to feel the irony while I was reading excerpts from your recent speech at Georgetown University in which you defended, on free speech grounds, Facebook's practice of posting demonstrably false ads from political candidates.

00:43:27.000 I admire your belief in free speech.

00:43:29.000 I get a lot of use out of the First Amendment.

00:43:31.000 More important, it's a bedrock of our democracy and it needs to be kept strong.

00:43:34.000 But this can't possibly be the outcome you and I want.

00:43:37.000 To have crazy lies pumped into the water supply that corrupt the most important decisions we make together.

00:43:42.000 Lies that have a very real and incredibly dangerous effect on our election, and our lives, and our children's lives.

00:43:47.000 Don't say Larry Flint.

00:43:48.000 Not even Larry Flint would say Larry Flint.

00:43:50.000 This isn't the same as pornography, which people don't rely upon for information.

00:43:54.000 Last year, over 40% of Americans say they got news from Facebook.

00:43:57.000 Of course, the problem could be solved by those people going to a different news source or you could decide to make Facebook a reliable source of public information.

00:44:04.000 The tagline on the artwork for the social network read in 2010, you don't get to 500 million friends without making a few enemies.

00:44:10.000 That number sounds quaint just nine years later because one third of the planet uses your website now.

00:44:14.000 And right now on your website is an ad claiming that Joe Biden gave the Ukrainian attorney general a billion dollars not to investigate his son.

00:44:21.000 Every square inch of that is a lie and it's under your logo.

00:44:26.000 Well, that's not actually what the ad actually says.

00:44:30.000 The ad is a little bit more oblique than that, to be fair, to the ad. 0.55

00:44:33.000 But with that said, Sorkin saying that he wants to be the fact-checker is patently insane.

00:44:39.000 But everybody on the left wants to be the fact-checker because what they really want is for Trump not to be able to run that ad on Facebook.

00:44:44.000 Right?

00:44:45.000 That is the goal.

00:44:48.000 This column's an absurdity.

00:44:49.000 He says, Even after the screenplay for The Social Network satisfied the standards of Sony's legal department, we sent the script, as promised over a handshake, to a group of senior lieutenants at your company and invited them to give notes.

00:44:59.000 After we shot the movie, we arranged a private screening of an early cut for your chief operating officer, Sheryl Sandberg.

00:45:04.000 Ms.

00:45:04.000 Sandberg stood up in the middle of the screening, turned to the producers who were standing in the back of the room and said, How can you do this to a kid?

00:45:10.000 You were 26 years old at the time, but alright, I get it.

00:45:12.000 I hope your CEO walks into your office, leans in and says, how can we do this to tens of millions of kids?

00:45:18.000 Are we really going to run an ad that claims Kamala Harris ran dogfights out of the basement of a pizza place, while Elizabeth Warren destroyed evidence that climate change is a hoax, and that Deep State sold meth to Rashida Tlaib and Colin Kaepernick?

00:45:29.000 What in the world is he even talking about?

00:45:32.000 What in the actual hell is he talking about?

00:45:37.000 The answer is that none of those ads would ever run.

00:45:40.000 Why?

00:45:40.000 Because the blowback from the ads would be worse than the effect of the ads themselves, obviously.

00:45:44.000 The greatest check on misinformation is good information.

00:45:47.000 It is not a shutdown from people who supposedly know better.

00:45:49.000 By the way, Zuckerberg promptly destroyed, I mean like really owned Sorkin.

00:45:56.000 He proceeded to, it's pretty fantastic, he proceeded to tweet out an actual quote from the American president In which the main character waxes philosophic about the First Amendment.

00:46:10.000 Zuckerberg responded to all of this by tweeting out, quote, America isn't easy.

00:46:14.000 America is advanced citizenship.

00:46:16.000 You got to want it bad because it's going to put up a fight.

00:46:17.000 It's going to say, you want free speech?

00:46:19.000 Let's you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who's standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs, that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours.

00:46:26.000 You want to claim this land as the land of the free?

00:46:28.000 Then the symbol of your country can't just be a flag.

00:46:30.000 The symbol also has to be one of its citizens, So, again, what is this really about?

00:46:39.000 This is about the fact that they want to shut down the flow of information.

00:46:47.000 That is the goal, to shut down the flow of information.

00:46:49.000 Why are Democrats so focused in on this?

00:46:50.000 Because they lost in 2016.

00:46:52.000 And why are they focused in right now on this?

00:46:54.000 Because going into 2020, Democrats are weak.

00:46:56.000 This is why they are doing the impeachment thing.

00:46:58.000 It's also Why Bill is still leaving it out there that maybe Hillary will jump in the race. 0.99

00:47:02.000 Bill was asked about this in the last 24 hours.

00:47:05.000 And here's Bill Clinton explaining Hillary may run or she may not run.

00:47:08.000 I don't know.

00:47:09.000 No idea.

00:47:09.000 I'm the only one that's not running for anything and ever, or at least she may or may not ever run for anything, but I can't legally run for president again.

00:47:19.000 She may or may not run.

00:47:20.000 She may or may not.

00:47:21.000 By the way, my actual belief is that she will not run.

00:47:24.000 I don't think that she's going to jump back in.

00:47:25.000 She'd be a full Nazi, by the way. 0.99

00:47:27.000 She really should.

00:47:28.000 Because what does she have to lose?

00:47:29.000 Her sterling credentials here?

00:47:31.000 What exactly does she have to lose?

00:47:32.000 Her long history of losing?

00:47:34.000 Oh wow, she lost one more time.

00:47:35.000 Like, it doesn't even hurt her.

00:47:36.000 But do I think... I don't think Bill has any insight.

00:47:38.000 I don't think they talk to each other.

00:47:39.000 I think that Bill and Hillary haven't had a face-to-face conversation in about 15 years.

00:47:43.000 But with that said, the fact that the Democrats are still leaving the door open to that...

00:47:48.000 Demonstrates how desperate they are.

00:47:50.000 Meanwhile, the Democrats are celebrating because President Trump apparently announced on Twitter that he is moving out of New York.

00:47:56.000 He tweeted out, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, the White House, is the place I have come to love and will stay for hopefully another five years as we make America great again.

00:48:02.000 But my family and I will be making Palm Beach, Florida our permanent residence.

00:48:06.000 I cherish New York and the people of New York and always will.

00:48:08.000 But unfortunately, despite the fact that I pay millions of dollars in city, state, and local taxes each year, I've been treated very badly by the political leaders of both the city and the state.

00:48:16.000 Few have been treated worse.

00:48:17.000 I hated having to make this decision, but in the end, it will be the best for all concerned.

00:48:21.000 As president, I will always be there to help New York and the great people of New York.

00:48:23.000 It will always have a special place in my heart.

00:48:26.000 This prompted Andrew Cuomo to tweet out, good riddance.

00:48:29.000 It's not like Donald Trump paid taxes here anyway.

00:48:31.000 He's all yours, Florida.

00:48:33.000 I have a feeling that he paid some taxes in New York.

00:48:35.000 And then Bill de Blasio said, don't let the door hit you on the way out or whatever.

00:48:40.000 Serial groundhog killer Bill de Blasio has some words.

00:48:43.000 Obviously, look, Trump is making a good move.

00:48:45.000 He doesn't need to stick around New York.

00:48:47.000 Why would he stick around New York where the Attorney General overtly stated upon her election that she was out to get him?

00:48:53.000 But it does show that the gap in the country that has now arisen and it's the reason why Any impeachment inquiry from here on out, unless the evidence is clear and convincing, the American people are just not going to trust it.

00:49:02.000 Right now, the evidence is not clear and convincing.

00:49:04.000 The Democrats have not proved themselves to be honest arbiters of any of this, which means they better come up with the goods or the American people are not going to back them in this.

00:49:12.000 Right now, it's not hurting them because the American people are withholding judgment.

00:49:16.000 But there will come a point at which Democrats vote on this thing.

00:49:18.000 And if the evidence is just not strong enough, the American people are going to buck back against them.

00:49:22.000 And that's when you could actually see a bit of a boost for Trump.

00:49:25.000 Okay.

00:49:26.000 You know, instead of things I like and things I hate today, because it's a Friday, I've decided that we're going back to the Bible. 0.61

00:49:31.000 So, this is something that we started last week.

00:49:35.000 Every week, the Jews read a portion of the Old Testament.

00:49:39.000 This week's portion of the Old Testament is the story of Noah.

00:49:42.000 It also happens to cover the story of the Tower of Babel.

00:49:47.000 And it's really, you know, it's all puzzling stuff.

00:49:50.000 Genesis is really interesting and metaphorical.

00:49:52.000 It's got all sorts of real-world implications.

00:49:54.000 It's really deep, deep-layered stuff that is buried in the Western psyche.

00:49:59.000 That's why I talk about the Bible.

00:50:01.000 Not just because I'm a Bible believer, but because even if you're not a Bible believer, as I say every week now, even if you're not a Bible believer, you should understand the roots of your civilization and how deeply embedded these stories are in the psyche of Judeo-Christian civilizations in the West.

00:50:14.000 The Parsha, which is what we call Parsha means portion, the portion of Genesis that we read is this portion about Noah.

00:50:21.000 And this portion covers basically three different fundamentally different ways of viewing the world.

00:50:27.000 So this portion begins with libertinism.

00:50:30.000 The world before Noah is this very libertine place. 0.68

00:50:32.000 Right?

00:50:33.000 The world is filled with sin.

00:50:34.000 That is the quote, right?

00:50:36.000 The ways of for all flesh had corrupted its way upon the earth. 0.92

00:50:40.000 The earth had become corrupt before God.

00:50:42.000 The earth had become filled with robbery.

00:50:43.000 This is a libertine society where everybody could do basically what they want.

00:50:47.000 And the society tears itself apart.

00:50:50.000 The entire world had become corrupted.

00:50:52.000 In a live and let live world, the person who doesn't actually indulge, it becomes... You see this in the West now to a certain extent.

00:50:59.000 In a libertine world, it's not about you just hurting other people.

00:51:01.000 It's about if you refuse to celebrate sin, then you become the bad guy.

00:51:07.000 That is what was happening then, that is what is happening to a certain extent now.

00:51:11.000 If you don't celebrate sin, and engage in sin, and cheer sin, then that's because you're intolerant, and you're bad, and you have to be sort of roped into the hedonistic good time, or you are the killjoy.

00:51:21.000 Okay, so that is institution number one.

00:51:23.000 It fails, that society fails, and brings upon the earth the flood.

00:51:28.000 Okay, then there's the second institution, which is what is saved from the flood, and that is the institution of family, right?

00:51:35.000 That is Noah and his immediate family.

00:51:37.000 So, God, in the Bible here, eliminates all of the social institutions except for the family.

00:51:42.000 So God says, So the purpose of building the ark is to keep the family alive.

00:51:54.000 It's to be holy within the confines of your own domain.

00:52:00.000 So that is institution number two.

00:52:01.000 So you have three ways of viewing the world.

00:52:02.000 One is a family-based way of viewing the world.

00:52:04.000 One is an individual way of viewing the world that doesn't care about anybody else.

00:52:07.000 And then finally, you have the other extreme, which is the communal-based way, the communitarian way of viewing the world, where the individual doesn't matter.

00:52:15.000 The only thing that matters is the collective.

00:52:17.000 So we've had the individual is the only thing that matters, not the collective.

00:52:20.000 Then you've got the collective matters, but not the individual, and then you've got the family, which is the proper merger of how society is supposed to be formed, based on these small phalanxes of people who have individual interests, but exist within a communal sphere.

00:52:35.000 The sort of communitarian way of viewing the world is told by the Tower of Babel. 0.86

00:52:42.000 So, the Tower of Babel story is really puzzling, because what's wrong with a bunch of people getting together and building up a tower?

00:52:46.000 Like, why is God so ticked off?

00:52:47.000 What exactly is the problem here?

00:52:49.000 Well, according to the Torah, the whole earth is of one language and of common purpose.

00:52:53.000 They said to one another, come, let us make bricks and burn them in fire.

00:52:55.000 And the bricks served as stone and the lime served them as mortar.

00:52:57.000 And they said, come, let us build a city and a tower with its top in the heavens.

00:53:01.000 And let us make a name for ourselves, lest we be dispersed across the whole earth.

00:53:05.000 So God promptly disperses them.

00:53:06.000 So people read this as they were building a tower to challenge God.

00:53:09.000 Okay, that's actually not in the text of the Bible.

00:53:11.000 It doesn't say that they were like on top of the tower with a spear, like throwing the spear at the clouds or something.

00:53:14.000 That's not what was going on.

00:53:16.000 What happens here is that the community starts to value itself more than it values any individual.

00:53:21.000 So there's something in the Jewish commentary called the Midrash.

00:53:26.000 The Midrash is basically kind of expounding on the stories and adding to the stories in ways that explain the story, usually metaphorically.

00:53:33.000 According to the Midrash, the Tower of Babel becomes so tall and so grand, it supposedly took a year to shuttle bricks from the bottom of the tower to the top, which of course is an exaggeration, but the idea is that this is this grand, magnificent project.

00:53:45.000 And this is the key part of the Midrash. 0.96

00:53:46.000 People mourned when a brick fell and broke because a year of work had been lost.

00:53:50.000 But when somebody died, there was no mourning.

00:53:51.000 They just put them right into the wall, right?

00:53:53.000 They just walled them right in.

00:53:54.000 And they used it as part of the building of the tower.

00:53:56.000 The idea is that human beings, individuals, mattered a lot less than the collective project.

00:54:00.000 So God sees this and he says, this is a mistake.

00:54:03.000 Humanity is not supposed to do this, right?

00:54:05.000 Humanity is supposed to recognize the value of the individual.

00:54:07.000 So God says, behold, they are one people with one language for all, and this they begin to do?

00:54:12.000 And now, should it not be withheld from them all they propose to do?

00:54:15.000 So he's not shocked at them building a tower to challenge him.

00:54:17.000 He's, God, I didn't care.

00:54:19.000 What he is shocked by is what these people are doing to themselves.

00:54:21.000 He has made them individuals.

00:54:23.000 He has breathed life into them as individuals.

00:54:25.000 He has made them in the image of God, and they are promptly subsuming that for the building of the greater good.

00:54:31.000 So what this portion of the Bible is really talking about is what sort of society is the best society to build.

00:54:36.000 The society that's built on the individual alone without reference to the collective, the society built on the collective alone without focusing on the individual, or the society that is built on family structure, recognizing that you value the people who are closest to you the most, but also that you're an individual who has to work within that family structure and that families have to learn to live with each other in a broader collective while still maintaining their value as families.

00:54:59.000 The very libertine movement, the hedonistic movement hates family.

00:55:05.000 They want to destroy the institution of family.

00:55:06.000 They consider it patriarchal.

00:55:07.000 They consider it to be an imposition on your individual freedom.

00:55:11.000 You've seen this attack.

00:55:12.000 And then on the other side, you've got the sort of communist movement, which says family is also bad because family stands up to the communist project, which says that we are all supposed to view each other the same way that I would view my sister or brother or kids or wife.

00:55:26.000 Which of course is nonsense.

00:55:27.000 That's not how human society is going to work.

00:55:31.000 The godly society in the Bible takes the best of both worlds.

00:55:35.000 The individual society...

00:55:37.000 Lives for the present.

00:55:38.000 It doesn't live for the future because eat and drink and be married tomorrow, we're dead.

00:55:41.000 The communitarian project lives only for the future because what we're doing now doesn't matter.

00:55:45.000 Our lives don't matter.

00:55:46.000 All that matters is the grander project.

00:55:48.000 The family project is about living for the now and living for the future.

00:55:52.000 Right?

00:55:52.000 Building a family around you that you enjoy because you are also building for the future.

00:55:56.000 As Solomon says, enjoy life with the wife you love through all the fleeting days of your life.

00:55:59.000 He has granted you beneath the sun all of your futile existence for that is your compensation in life and in your toil which you exert beneath the sun.

00:56:07.000 So that's the covenant that God ends up making with Noah, is that he's preserving the earth for families.

00:56:11.000 That is the goal, to preserve the earth for families.

00:56:13.000 Okay, so that's a little bit of Bible talk for you on a Friday.

00:56:16.000 We'll be back here a little bit later today with two additional hours.

00:56:18.000 Otherwise, we will be here with all the updates for you on Monday.

00:56:21.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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Impeach Or Go Home | Ep. 888

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