The Ben Shapiro Show - Insanity *Intensifies* | Ep. 627

00:00:00.000 Accusations and counter accusations mount regarding Brett Kavanaugh's nomination, Ted Cruz's run out of a restaurant, and President Trump visits the UN, i.e.

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00:00:08.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:00:09.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:15.000 Hey, well, I'm back, and I'm very excited to be here.

00:00:18.000 I mean, I was out for two days, and apparently the world exploded, and then I returned this morning, and things were just as bad.

00:00:24.000 I mean, Michael Avenatti's making all sorts of trouble.

00:00:26.000 Lots of parties happening all over the place.

00:00:28.000 Plus, Ted Cruz gets run out of restaurant.

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00:01:46.000 A lot breaking this morning.

00:01:47.000 Michael Avenatti has now come forward with his bombshell accusation.

00:01:51.000 And this is one of these accusations where it's either true or it's false.

00:01:55.000 And if it's true, it shouldn't be all that hard to prove because the witness who Avenatti is bringing forward is claiming an enormous number of people who

00:02:05.000 should have seen this going on, who should have seen the events going on.

00:02:08.000 So here's what's happening.

00:02:09.000 The precursor was that Michael Avenatti, over the past 48 hours, while I was out, announced that he had a woman who was willing to come forward and testify that Brett Kavanaugh was involved in a gang rape ring.

00:02:21.000 That was legitimately his words.

00:02:24.000 So, Avenatti wrote Sunday in an email to Mike Davis, quote, who's the chief counsel for nominations for the Senate Judiciary Committee,

00:02:44.000 He says there are multiple witnesses that will corroborate these facts.

00:02:47.000 Each of them must be called to testify publicly.

00:02:48.000 Now, it is worth noting that Michael Avenatti has, in the past, come up with some credible accusations, i.e.

00:02:54.000 Stormy Daniels, and in the past, he has made some non-credible accusations.

00:02:57.000 So, for example, he claimed that he had a DVD of Trump engaged in sexual congress, and he suggested there were three other women he was going to bring forward who'd been paid off by Trump, and then any of those things.

00:03:07.000 Evidence to support such an accusation would surely upend Kavanaugh's confirmation, which has already become a Chernobyl-like political disaster for the White House, according to Vanity Fair.

00:03:15.000 In reality, it is not, in fact, a Chernobyl-like political disaster for the White House.

00:03:19.000 The polls don't show any impact on Trump on the 2018 election.

00:03:22.000 Nothing.

00:03:24.000 But Michael Avenatti today, he finally comes out with the accusation.

00:03:27.000 So first, he was accused of getting this story from 4chan.

00:03:31.000 So the 4chan pranksters decided that they were going to accuse Avenatti of picking up on some rumor that they had put out there, essentially for fun, in order to harm Avenatti.

00:03:43.000 Avenatti denied all that and he came forward and he said that his client was going to come forward within 48 hours.

00:03:47.000 This is clip 11.

00:03:48.000 Well, Rachel, I'm representing one client who I can describe as a witness and victim, as well as additional corroborating witnesses to what she is going to allege publicly within the next 48 hours.

00:04:05.000 As it relates to her particular allegations, we're not going to provide additional information beyond that.

00:04:12.000 So Avenatti was acting kind of suspicious in the run-up to the release of this.

00:04:15.000 For example, he began protecting his tweets, which is unusual for a guy who has said that he wants to run for president in 2020.

00:04:21.000 He also then released the sworn declaration of a woman named Julie Swetnick, and he tweeted out a picture of her and said, here's her name, here's her picture, please respect her privacy, which is a very weird way to ask for somebody's privacy.

00:04:33.000 In any case, here is her declaration.

00:04:35.000 It just came out this morning.

00:04:52.000 She says that she has worked for places including the Department of the Treasury and the Internal Revenue Service and the U.S.

00:04:57.000 Mint.

00:04:58.000 She held inactive security clearances with the Department of State and the DOJ.

00:05:03.000 She says, I first met Mark Judge and Brett Kavanaugh in approximately 1980 to 1981.

00:05:07.000 I was introduced to them at a house party that I attended in the Washington, D.C.

00:05:11.000 area.

00:05:12.000 I observed Mark Judge and Brett Kavanaugh as extremely close friends during the early 1980s, when I knew them and interacted with them.

00:05:18.000 I would describe them as quote joined at the hip and I consistently saw them together in many social settings.

00:05:24.000 There's no question in my mind that Mark Judge has significant information concerning the conduct

00:05:29.000 of Brett Kavanaugh during the 1980s, especially as it relates to his actions towards women.

00:05:34.000 Following that first introduction, I attended well over 10 house parties in the Washington, D.C.

00:05:38.000 area during the years 1981-1983, where Mark Judge and Brett Kavanaugh were present.

00:05:43.000 These parties were a common occurrence in the area and occurred nearly every weekend during the school year.

00:05:47.000 On numerous occasions at these parties, I witnessed Mark Judge and Brett Kavanaugh drink excessively and engage in highly inappropriate conduct, including being overly aggressive with girls and not taking no for an answer.

00:05:57.000 Kind of vague, because you don't know what that means.

00:05:58.000 Now remember, she's not claiming she's one of these girls. 0.67

00:06:00.000 She's saying that she witnessed this sort of behavior.

00:06:21.000 I likewise observed him to be verbally abusive toward girls by making crude sexual comments to them that were designed to demean, humiliate, and embarrass them. 0.99

00:06:30.000 So the last part there is him being a jackass in high school. 0.98

00:06:34.000 I often witnessed Brett Kavanaugh speak in a demeaning manner about girls in general as well as specific girls by name. 1.00

00:06:39.000 Again, jackass in high school. 0.97

00:06:40.000 I also witnessed Brett Kavanaugh behave as a mean drunk on many occasions at these parties. 1.00

00:06:44.000 Again, jackass in high school. 0.90

00:06:45.000 So far, the only allegation she's made that is actually damaging is the allegation that he was engaged in physically aggressive behavior toward girls without their consent. 0.98

00:06:53.000 Guys saying mean stuff about girls when they're in high school is kind of called high school.

00:06:56.000 I've been told by other women that this conduct also occurred during the summer months in Ocean City, Maryland on numerous occasions.

00:07:02.000 I also witnessed such conduct on one occasion in Ocean City, Maryland during Beach Week.

00:07:07.000 And she says, I've reviewed Brett Kavanaugh's recent claim on Fox News regarding his alleged innocence during his high school years and lack of sexual activity.

00:07:13.000 We'll get to that in just a second.

00:07:14.000 This claim is absolutely false and a lie.

00:07:16.000 I witnessed Brett Kavanaugh consistently engage in excessive drinking and inappropriate conduct of a sexual nature with women during the early 1980s.

00:07:23.000 And then here's where she gets to the actual damaging allegation.

00:07:27.000 And it's a little vague, as I'll explain in just a second.

00:07:30.000 Now,

00:07:31.000 There's nothing to suggest that it's non-credible.

00:07:33.000 Again, we have to say whether it's credible or not.

00:07:35.000 She seems like a credible person from the text of the actual claim.

00:07:40.000 She doesn't seem to be a complete crazy person, although we haven't seen her speak out loud yet, so we really don't know.

00:07:46.000 And it is also worthwhile noting that she has not been called to testify in any setting.

00:07:50.000 She is not testifying under oath, as far as I'm aware.

00:07:53.000 And Michael Avenatti, when specifically asked whether she was accusing Brett Kavanaugh of indeed being involved in a gang rape,

00:07:59.000 He demurred.

00:08:00.000 He's not answering the question.

00:08:02.000 Here is the actual accusation.

00:08:03.000 During the years 1981-1982, I became aware of efforts by Mark Judge, Brett Kavanaugh, and others to spike the punch at house parties I attended with drugs and or grain alcohol so as to cause girls to lose their inhibitions and their ability to say no.

00:08:15.000 This caused me to make an effort to purposely avoid the punch at these parties.

00:08:18.000 I witnessed efforts by Mark Judge, Brett Kavanaugh, and others to target particular girls so they could be taken advantage of.

00:08:24.000 It was usually a girl that was especially vulnerable because she was alone at the party or shy.

00:08:28.000 I also witnessed efforts by Mark Judge, Brett Kavanaugh, and others to cause girls to become inebriated or disoriented so they could then be gang raped, this is an actual accusation, in a side room or bedroom by a train of numerous boys.

00:08:40.000 I have a firm recollection of seeing boys lined up outside rooms at many of these parties waiting for their turn with a girl inside the room.

00:08:46.000 These boys included Mark Judge and Brett Kavanaugh.

00:08:49.000 So now she's saying that she knows that there was a gang rape train going on and the line included Mark Judge and Brett Kavanaugh.

00:08:54.000 So that's an actual accusation.

00:08:55.000 Now, here's where it gets vague.

00:08:56.000 It's not clear whether she's saying that they were involved in the gang rape or train.

00:09:08.000 Or whether they were just at the party, like she was also at the party.

00:09:10.000 So, you know, there were people at the party apparently.

00:09:12.000 So obviously a pretty terrible story.

00:09:14.000 And then she swore this under penalty of perjury. 1.00

00:09:15.000 She's executed this declaration as of yesterday.

00:09:17.000 So,

00:09:36.000 The question here is a pretty simple one.

00:09:38.000 Is it true or is it false?

00:09:39.000 Is it true or is it false?

00:09:40.000 She's claiming now that they were at parties where there were dozens of witnesses, where people saw this gang rape train occurring on a regular basis, that she would continue going to these parties on a regular basis, even knowing that these boys were performing a gang rape train in the other room, which is sort of an odd sort of suggestion.

00:09:59.000 If you went to a party and you saw people performing gang rapes there, at the very least, would you continue going to those parties on the weekend?

00:10:05.000 Seems kind of suspicious.

00:10:06.000 The fact that she went to Michael Avenatti to reveal this particular scenario is also suspicious.

00:10:12.000 Bottom line is, we're going to need more evidence on this.

00:10:13.000 We're going to need some corroborating details.

00:10:15.000 We're going to need to know what the weekends were.

00:10:17.000 We're going to need to know who else was there.

00:10:18.000 She says that she's aware of other witnesses that can attest to the truthfulness of each of the statements above.

00:10:23.000 Who are these other witnesses?

00:10:24.000 We just don't know at this point.

00:10:27.000 We have no idea.

00:10:27.000 So, all of this is brand new.

00:10:30.000 We don't have any of the details as of yet.

00:10:33.000 It's not clear.

00:10:34.000 Now, one of the things that's happening here is that Democrats and folks on the left are jumping on Brett Kavanaugh's interview on Fox News last night to claim that Brett Kavanaugh actually was claiming that he is clean as the driven snow, pure as the driven snow, and therefore, if they can find evidence that he went to parties and was drinking, then he is therefore a liar and ought not sit on the Supreme Court.

00:10:55.000 It's this big straw man that's being set up against Brett Kavanaugh.

00:10:58.000 So here's what Brett Kavanaugh actually said.

00:10:59.000 He was on Martha McCallum's show, and he talked about his experiences in high school, and here's what he had to say.

00:11:07.000 We're talking about an allegation of sexual assault.

00:11:08.000 I've never sexually assaulted anyone.

00:11:10.000 I did not have sexual intercourse or anything close to sexual intercourse in high school or for many years thereafter.

00:11:18.000 And the girls from the schools I went to and I were friends.

00:11:24.000 So you're saying that through all these years that are in question, you were a virgin?

00:11:29.000 That's correct.

00:11:31.000 Never had sexual intercourse with anyone in high school?

00:11:33.000 Correct.

00:11:34.000 And through what years in college, since we're probing into your personal life here?

00:11:37.000 Many years after.

00:11:38.000 I'll leave it at that.

00:11:39.000 Many years after.

00:11:41.000 Okay, so, number one, it's kind of absurd that he's now on TV having to brag about whether he was a virgin in high school.

00:11:46.000 Now, as somebody who thinks that there's nothing wrong with being a virgin in high school or all the way until marriage, I don't have much of a problem with folks saying this, but this is what our political discourse has now come to based on unverified allegations.

00:11:57.000 We're gonna get to the unverified nature of Christine Blasey Ford's allegations in just a second, but to finish up with the Kavanaugh interview here,

00:12:06.000 It's being portrayed by the media as though Brett Kavanaugh said that he was, again, as clean and as pure as anyone has ever been in high school.

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00:13:36.000 So, here is what Brett Kavanaugh actually said about his life during high school.

00:13:40.000 He says, yes, there were parties.

00:13:42.000 And yes, people might have had too many beers on occasion, and people generally in high school.

00:13:49.000 I think all of us have probably done things we look back on in high school and regret or cringe a bit, but that's not what we're talking about.

00:13:55.000 We're talking about an allegation of sexual assault.

00:13:57.000 I've never sexually assaulted anyone, right?

00:13:58.000 That's when he gets to the part that he was talking about.

00:14:01.000 So, McCallum asked him, sir, you're gonna be pressed on something you just said about people do things in high school, and you were all drinking.

00:14:07.000 Were there times, perhaps, when you drank so much, was there ever a time you drank so much you couldn't remember what happened the night before?

00:14:12.000 And Kavanaugh said, no, that never happened.

00:14:15.000 McCallum said, you never said to anyone, I don't remember about anything about last night.

00:14:18.000 And Kavanaugh said, no, that never happened.

00:14:20.000 So, the great lie here that is being promulgated is that

00:14:25.000 Brett Kavanaugh is saying that he was completely innocent in high school, that he never drank to excess, that he was never involved in raucous parties or anything like that.

00:14:34.000 But that wasn't the accusation. 0.63

00:14:35.000 Remember, the original accusation is that he tried to rape a girl.

00:14:38.000 The original accusation is that he pushed a 15-year-old girl into a room, pulled down her clothes, and tried to rape her, and then stifled her screams with his hand as she tried to cry out.

00:14:48.000 Now we have the second accusation from Avenatti, and it's not even clear at this point what exactly the accusation is, because the woman who's making the claim is basically saying that she was present at parties where gang rapes were occurring, and she saw Brett Kavanaugh in line, and she saw Brett Kavanaugh, I guess, grab and fondle girls, but those girls haven't come forward, and then she's making a claim that she was gang raped at one of these parties.

00:15:11.000 And Brett Kavanaugh is present at the party, but not clear that Brett Kavanaugh is actually involved in the gang rape.

00:15:15.000 So the extent of the claims that she's making is not particularly clear.

00:15:19.000 And you can see that the media are attempting to push the boundaries of the actual accusation.

00:15:24.000 Now the media are moving into the arena of suggesting that Brett Kavanaugh was basically a sloppy drunk.

00:15:32.000 The new accusation against him is that he was a sloppy drunk.

00:15:34.000 So they're going to claim that he was a sexual assaulter, and if they can't prove that, they're going to claim that he was a sloppy drunk, and therefore, if he was a sloppy drunk and he lied about it, he shouldn't sit on the Supreme Court.

00:15:43.000 So we're seeing a sort of mission creep with regard to what Democrats are claiming about him, depending on how seriously they end up taking Michael Avenatti's suggestions.

00:15:51.000 Okay, so speaking of that,

00:15:54.000 The Washington Post has a long piece today about Kavanaugh's quote-unquote choir boy image.

00:15:59.000 Now, again, I'm not sure what makes people think that Brett Kavanaugh has claimed for himself a choir boy image.

00:16:04.000 As I just read to you from the transcript of McCallum's show, he is not claiming that he had a choir boy image, right?

00:16:10.000 He is saying that he was drinking to excess at parties.

00:16:13.000 But the Washington Post has a long piece today, an investigative piece about Brett Kavanaugh drank a lot.

00:16:18.000 Okay, drinking a lot in high school?

00:16:20.000 If that were a crime, 90% of the American public would be ineligible for any government job.

00:16:24.000 Really.

00:16:25.000 I mean, the amount of drinking that goes on in high schools across America is exorbitant.

00:16:29.000 It's exorbitant.

00:16:29.000 But the Washington Post has this long piece today.

00:16:31.000 They say on Monday night, Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh said in a nationally televised interview that in his younger years he was focused on sports, academics, and service projects, but it was his comments about drinking that rankled some Yale University classmates, prompting them to speak out.

00:16:44.000 For the first time.

00:16:45.000 Liz Swisher, who described herself as a friend of Kavanaugh in college, said she was shocked that in an interview focused largely on his high school years and allegations of sexual misconduct, he strongly denied drinking to the point of blacking out.

00:16:57.000 Brett was a sloppy drunk, and I know because I drank with him.

00:16:59.000 I watched him drink more than a lot of people.

00:17:01.000 He'd end up slurring his words and stumbling, said Swisher, a Democrat and chief of the Gynecological Oncology Division at the University of Washington School of Medicine.

00:17:08.000 There's no medical way I can say that he was blacked out, but it's not credible for him to say he has had no memory lapses in the nights that he drank to excess.

00:17:15.000 Well, but I don't understand what that means.

00:17:18.000 Like, he said that he wasn't a blackout drunk, and then he says that he remembered what went on.

00:17:22.000 That's completely subjective.

00:17:23.000 I'm not sure exactly how you would claim that he had memory lapses when he claims he didn't have memory lapses.

00:17:28.000 Lynn Brooks, who, like Swisher, was a college roommate of one of the two women now accusing Kavanaugh of misconduct, said the nominee's comments on Fox do not match the classmate she remembered.

00:17:36.000 He's trying to paint himself as some sort of choir boy, said Brooks, a Republican and former pharmaceutical executive who recalled an encounter with a drunken Kavanaugh at a frat event.

00:17:43.000 You can't lie your way onto the Supreme Court.

00:17:45.000 And with that statement out, he's gone too far.

00:17:47.000 It's about the integrity of that institution.

00:17:49.000 So now the accusation made by the Washington Post and made by these women is that if Brett Kavanaugh looked too clean in that interview,

00:17:57.000 Then he shouldn't be on the Supreme Court.

00:17:58.000 So it's no longer sexual assault.

00:18:00.000 It's Brett Kavanaugh looked like a choir boy in that interview, and he wasn't a choir boy back when he was in high school and college.

00:18:07.000 But as I say, in the interview, he said that he went to parties where too much drinking occurred.

00:18:13.000 And he says he got drunk.

00:18:14.000 So I don't know what exactly the accusation is.

00:18:17.000 So now they are trying to basically say that he perjured himself on the basis of all of this.

00:18:23.000 That he perjured himself on the basis of, did you get drunk in high school?

00:18:26.000 That's not going to cut it.

00:18:28.000 It's just not going to cut it.

00:18:29.000 And then meanwhile, there's another allegation that they've brought forth, the Democrats have brought forth, and it is indeed an extraordinarily weak allegation.

00:18:37.000 It's an allegation from the New Yorker.

00:18:38.000 This broke Sunday afternoon.

00:18:40.000 It's an allegation from Ronan Farrow and Jane Mayer over at the New Yorker, and this allegation is

00:18:46.000 Basically a nothing.

00:18:48.000 The claim dates to the 1983-1984 academic school year when Kavanaugh was a freshman at Yale University.

00:18:52.000 According to the New Yorker, the offices of at least four Democratic senators have received information about the allegation.

00:18:58.000 At least two began investigating it.

00:19:00.000 Senior Republican staffers learned about the allegations last week.

00:19:04.000 The woman at the center of the story is a woman named Deborah Ramirez.

00:19:06.000 She has consistently refused to testify under oath.

00:19:08.000 She's not testifying under oath.

00:19:09.000 She's made clear that she's not testifying under oath.

00:19:12.000 In fact,

00:19:12.000 Her own attorney said that she would probably not be testifying under oath.

00:19:17.000 Her own attorney said that she wasn't convinced of the veracity of her own memories with regard to this particular accusation.

00:19:24.000 This is clip 7.

00:19:25.000 Here's her attorney explaining that she didn't even know whether her own memory of the situation was true and yet were supposed to take it seriously.

00:19:33.000 Um, with that passage of time, you know, she went through those memories and there were some things that she believed were probably true, but she didn't disclose those because she wasn't completely convinced of their accuracy.

00:19:42.000 So that's the only reason why she did the work with the attorney and spent the six days to make sure that that information she did put forward was indeed accurate.

00:19:51.000 So, in other words, she didn't remember, and then she talked to her attorneys for six days, and Democratic staffers for six days, and then she came forward.

00:19:57.000 A lot of problems with this particular story.

00:20:00.000 Even Ronan Farrow seems uncomfortable that he ran this story in the first place.

00:20:03.000 The woman at the center of that story is a woman named Deborah Ramirez. 0.98

00:20:06.000 She's 53.

00:20:06.000 She attended Yale with Kavanaugh.

00:20:08.000 She studied sociology and psychology.

00:20:10.000 The New Yorker contacted Ramirez after learning of her possible involvement in an incident involving Kavanaugh.

00:20:15.000 How did they hear about that?

00:20:17.000 Well, they heard about it from Democrats.

00:20:20.000 The Democrats referred this woman to the New Yorker.

00:20:22.000 The New Yorker ran with the story.

00:20:24.000 It says, quote,

00:20:38.000 And then she says she wants an FBI investigation, but won't testify under oath.

00:20:42.000 And Kavanaugh, of course, completely denies the allegation.

00:20:45.000 And a bunch of witnesses say that they don't know what exactly she is talking about.

00:20:52.000 So this allegation is, again, really weak as well.

00:20:56.000 The allegations that have been put forth are unverified.

00:20:58.000 This latest allegation from Avenatti, we're gonna have to see whether anybody comes forward to verify it.

00:21:03.000 But right now, all of this looks just like

00:21:07.000 I mean, it looks weak.

00:21:08.000 I gotta be honest with you.

00:21:08.000 It looks weak.

00:21:09.000 I don't trust Avenatti.

00:21:11.000 This woman coming forward... 0.85

00:21:13.000 Has not brought any other witnesses or corroborating details, so we're going to have to find out about that.

00:21:17.000 And the fact that all of this is being conjured out of the nearby Democrats makes me a little suspicious of all this.

00:21:22.000 Speaking of which, we're going to show you in one second all of the reactions of the political players to all of this.

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00:22:49.000 The political reaction to all of this continues to play out.

00:22:54.000 There's a big story yesterday that seems a little bit overblown.

00:22:57.000 This is that the Senate Judiciary Committee will vote on Brett Kavanaugh's nomination to the Supreme Court on Friday morning, less than 24 hours after Kavanaugh and Christine Blasey Ford, this is the original accuser, appear before the panel to discuss Ford's allegation that Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her more than 30 years ago.

00:23:12.000 Speaking of which...

00:23:13.000 There's an amazing media report out today from Peter Alexander, who's over at NBC News.

00:23:20.000 And Peter Alexander puts out, he says,

00:23:32.000 Well, that'd be pretty damning stuff, right?

00:23:33.000 I mean, four people corroborating her claims.

00:23:35.000 Except none of the four declarations actually corroborate her claims.

00:23:42.000 All of the declarations basically say that Christine Blasey Ford told them about it 30 years later.

00:23:47.000 That is not corroboration.

00:23:48.000 If I claim right now on this show that Dianne Feinstein slaughters puppies in her backyard, 1.00

00:23:53.000 And then I get signed declarations from the million people who listen to this show saying that they heard me claim that Dianne Feinstein slaughters puppies in her backyard.

00:24:01.000 That is not actually a corroboration of the claim that Dianne Feinstein slaughters puppies in her backyard.

00:24:07.000 You're corroborating the claim that I said it.

00:24:08.000 You're not corroborating that it happened.

00:24:10.000 But the media say that this claim has now been corroborated.

00:24:13.000 And this is the problem with all of these stories.

00:24:14.000 These all should be easily verified and corroborated.

00:24:17.000 These happened in public settings.

00:24:19.000 These happened at parties.

00:24:21.000 To date, there are zero witnesses outside of the accusers themselves who have backed up any aspect of any of these stories.

00:24:29.000 Deborah Ramirez's story in The New Yorker?

00:24:31.000 No one at any of the parties backs up her story.

00:24:33.000 Apparently this happened in public.

00:24:34.000 This did not happen in private.

00:24:36.000 Christine Blasey Ford's stories?

00:24:38.000 There is nothing there.

00:24:39.000 There is nothing there that actually has backed up her story, including the witnesses that she herself has named.

00:24:44.000 All of them have denied that anything like this happened.

00:24:47.000 They say they haven't seen anything like this.

00:24:50.000 This new Avenatti accuser says that there are other witnesses.

00:24:52.000 Okay, so where are the other witnesses?

00:24:53.000 Any time now.

00:24:54.000 Just bring them on up.

00:24:56.000 Bring them on up.

00:24:58.000 I mean, this is amazing.

00:24:59.000 By the way, it is worth noting that if these accusations that are now being brought forth by Avenatti are true, Kavanaugh shouldn't just lose his Supreme Court seat, he should lose his D.C.

00:25:07.000 Circuit Court seat, right?

00:25:07.000 I mean, if he was involved in gang rapes with Quaaludes when he was in his teens, seems to me that that dude shouldn't be sitting on any court, let alone the Supreme Court of the United States.

00:25:16.000 But we're gonna need some verifying evidence.

00:25:18.000 Supposedly, everybody knew about all of this.

00:25:20.000 Supposedly, this was all clear.

00:25:25.000 So, I mean, this is what's... It's just hard to... Honestly, it's hard to buy the Avenatti story.

00:25:31.000 It's hard to buy the Avenatti story because she's saying there are tons of witnesses to gang rape and nobody has come forward yet. 0.97

00:25:37.000 I mean, this guy's an absolute sociopathic monster if this is true. 0.97

00:25:41.000 Forget Choir Boy. 0.99

00:25:42.000 The guy's Hitler if this is true. 0.83

00:25:43.000 I mean, these accusations are as bad as they get.

00:25:47.000 But, in the end, for Democrats, it's really not about presumption of innocence.

00:25:50.000 Chuck Schumer said as much.

00:25:51.000 Here's the Senate Minority Leader saying that Brett Kavanaugh, in his hearing on Thursday, is not entitled to a presumption of innocence or guilt.

00:25:57.000 They're just fact-finding, so we shouldn't suggest that he's innocent until proven guilty, or innocent until preponderance of the evidence shows otherwise, or anything.

00:26:04.000 The burden of proof, according to Chuck Schumer, doesn't exist.

00:26:07.000 There is no burden of proof.

00:26:09.000 He has the, quote, presumption of innocence.

00:26:12.000 I agree that we, this is not, that's a criminal trial.

00:26:16.000 What I believe is we ought to get to the bottom and find the facts in the way that the FBI has always done.

00:26:23.000 There's no presumption of innocence or guilt when you have a nominee before you.

00:26:29.000 Okay, no presumption of innocence or guilt?

00:26:31.000 Well, I mean, the American public should have some presumption of innocence.

00:26:34.000 Otherwise, what are we supposed to do?

00:26:35.000 Just believe every accuser that comes along without any other evidence?

00:26:39.000 Really, I guess that's the suggestion here.

00:26:41.000 He says there's no presumption of innocence or guilt, but there's a presumption of something, right?

00:26:46.000 Because that presumption decides the burden of proof.

00:26:48.000 So in court, when you say somebody is innocent until proven guilty, that means the quote-unquote burden of proof is on the prosecutors to show that the person is guilty.

00:26:55.000 The burden is not on the person being accused to show that they are innocent.

00:26:59.000 The burden lies with one party or the other party.

00:27:02.000 It doesn't lie in between.

00:27:03.000 There's no way to have a situation where there's no presumption of guilt or innocence.

00:27:08.000 That doesn't exist.

00:27:09.000 Right?

00:27:10.000 Either you presume that the accusation is true, in which you presume he's guilty, or you presume that the accusation is not true until proven otherwise, in which case you presume that he's innocent.

00:27:17.000 But the idea that there's no presumption either way, and we are just a fact-finding inquiry, like you're the police, kind of hard to credit when Democrats have trotted this out every step of the way as politically as humanly possible.

00:27:29.000 This all, frankly, it stinks.

00:27:32.000 I mean, on the part of the Democrats, it just stinks. 0.97

00:27:34.000 It just stinks.

00:27:35.000 I mean, it's very difficult to credit any of this.

00:27:38.000 By the way, Brett Kavanaugh has denied Avenatti's accusations already.

00:27:41.000 He did it preemptively in his interview with Martha McCallum.

00:27:44.000 He says, listen, all these accusations that I was involved in a gang rape, just nonsense.

00:27:49.000 He said this on Fox.

00:27:50.000 Did you ever participate in, or were you ever aware of any gang rape that happened at a party that you attended?

00:27:58.000 That's totally false and outrageous.

00:27:59.000 I've never done any such thing, known about any such thing.

00:28:04.000 When I was in high school, and I went to an all-boys Catholic high school, a Jesuit high school, where I was focused on academics and athletics, going to church every Sunday at Little Flower, working on my service projects, and friendship.

00:28:18.000 Friendship with my fellow classmates and friendship with girls from the local all-girls Catholic schools.

00:28:24.000 Okay, so he's denied the accusations that Avenatti is putting forward already, and that's perfectly obvious that he's denying the accusations that have been put forward.

00:28:32.000 But Democrats, again, they're playing a game here where we don't even know where the burden of proof lies.

00:28:37.000 We just don't know.

00:28:38.000 We have no clue where they're even putting the burden of proof, what their specific allegation is, what they have to prove in order for them to knock Kavanaugh out of the box.

00:28:46.000 None of this is clear.

00:28:47.000 And so President Trump, when he comes forward and he says, listen, this seems to me like a con game,

00:28:51.000 I gotta agree with the President of the United States.

00:28:53.000 Here's President Trump speaking on this.

00:28:55.000 Normally, I hate when he speaks about stuff like this, but when he's right, he's right.

00:28:58.000 And I think what he says here is basically correct.

00:29:00.000 This is a con game being played by the Democrats.

00:29:03.000 Also, take a look at the lawyers.

00:29:06.000 These lawyers are the same lawyers that have been fighting for years.

00:29:10.000 They keep fighting.

00:29:12.000 Take a look at the lawyers.

00:29:13.000 Okay, again, I don't think that there's anything wrong with him saying that, and I think that he's basically right, that this has all been ginned up by Democrats at this point.

00:29:21.000 I mean, look at Kirsten Gillibrand, who basically said that Brett Kavanaugh should be calling for an FBI investigation into himself, or he's guilty in some way, which is essentially a Stalinist tactic.

00:29:30.000 Now she's saying Fox News is evil because they're trying to confuse people about Kavanaugh.

00:29:34.000 No, they're trying to say, you're gonna need to show some proof of something here, but here she is making the claim anyway. 0.56

00:29:40.000 Every time you hear on Fox News, oh, innocent, assume you're innocent, you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, they're trying to confuse voters, they're trying to confuse people across this country.

00:29:49.000 That is not what this is about.

00:29:53.000 No, you are trying to confuse people across this country by not making clear your standard of proof and by not making clear the nature of an accusation that you think should rule somebody out of politics.

00:30:01.000 Again, if the accusation is he got drunk in high school, guilty.

00:30:04.000 He says he got drunk in high school.

00:30:05.000 If the accusation is that he sexually assaulted somebody, I don't know what you're going to be able to do with that.

00:30:11.000 Like, I just, I don't understand what exactly the accusation is.

00:30:16.000 You know, it's very difficult

00:30:20.000 It's very difficult to figure out exactly what the claim is.

00:30:24.000 Like really, I'm having a difficult time coming up with what the claim is because Christine Blasey Ford has made a claim.

00:30:30.000 It is not clear to me what exactly the evidence is for that claim.

00:30:35.000 Is it enough to claim that he grabbed a girl and pushed her on a bed and she screamed and he put a hand over her mouth?

00:30:39.000 Yes.

00:30:40.000 Obviously that would be enough to rule him out.

00:30:41.000 Would it be enough to claim he was part of a gang rape train?

00:30:43.000 Yes.

00:30:43.000 Is it enough to claim he was drunk in high school?

00:30:45.000 No.

00:30:45.000 That would clearly not be enough.

00:30:46.000 And yet Democrats keep trying to expand the borders of this particular claim.

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00:33:36.000 So here is the latest on the hearing that's supposed to take place on Thursday.

00:33:39.000 Democrats keep trying to push off these hearings, keep trying to prevent anybody from actually testifying.

00:33:44.000 Two days ago, Senator Feinstein, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, according to the Washington Post, called for a delay in further consideration of Brett Kavanaugh after a second woman accused him of sexual misconduct.

00:33:56.000 She said,

00:34:01.000 Does it seem like a group of people who desperately want to have their clients testify?

00:34:05.000 Does it seem like a group of people who really want to have their clients questioned by prosecutors?

00:34:10.000 Seems to me like not.

00:34:12.000 And Democrats are very upset because Republicans are going to have an Arizona prosecutor asking the questions instead of members of the committee.

00:34:20.000 According to LMT Online, Republican senators have selected Arizona prosecutor Rachel Mitchell to question Judge Brett Kavanaugh and the woman who has accused the Supreme Court nominee of sexually assaulting her when they were teenagers, according to a top senator.

00:34:33.000 Mitchell is the Sex Crimes Bureau chief for the Maricopa County Attorney's Office in Phoenix.

00:34:37.000 And she's going to query the two at Thursday's highly anticipated Senate Judiciary Committee hearing.

00:34:42.000 She's a registered Republican.

00:34:43.000 She's worked for the Maricopa County Attorney's Office for 26 years.

00:34:46.000 Because she's in Maricopa County, this has led Democrats to claim that they basically went through Sheriff Joe Arpaio to come up with this prosecutor.

00:34:53.000 There's no evidence of that whatsoever.

00:34:55.000 She's a well-respected prosecutor in this particular region. 0.60

00:35:00.000 Republicans are turning to her to ask all the questions specifically because she's a woman. 1.00

00:35:03.000 Let's be honest about this.

00:35:05.000 They're doing this because Democrats claimed that Republican senators should not ask questions because they were men.

00:35:10.000 So Republicans said, okay, well, how about we bring a woman? 1.00

00:35:12.000 And Democrats said, that's not fair because we wanted it to be men so you'd look bad.

00:35:16.000 I'm not kidding.

00:35:16.000 This is exactly what Democrats are saying.

00:35:18.000 Maisie Hirono, who's the Democrat Senator from Hawaii, she basically said that, right?

00:35:23.000 After spending days and days and days saying it's just terrible that all these old white men want to question this young woman who has a traumatic experience in her past, now when Republicans say, okay, we'll have a woman do it, now the Democrats come forth and they say, it's just terrible that these old white men won't question this young, traumatized woman.

00:35:40.000 Here's Maisie Hirono doing just that. 1.00

00:35:41.000 But it should be very obvious to the people of our country by now that the Republicans do not want to question Dr. Ford directly because it will reveal who they are and I think they're afraid of that.

00:35:53.000 Okay, so they don't want the Republicans questioning them, but they also don't want a woman questioning them, which suggests, again, these do not look like honest allegations that are coming from an honest place for the Democrats.

00:36:04.000 Now, maybe all of this happened, and if it all happened, as I say, over and over and over, these are egregious crimes that he's being accused of.

00:36:10.000 If they are true,

00:36:12.000 He should lose his job, right?

00:36:14.000 I mean, he should not sit on the D.C.

00:36:15.000 Circuit Court of Appeals, let alone the Supreme Court.

00:36:17.000 But it seems to me much more like Democrats just want to create a miasma of confusion around Kavanaugh based on unverified allegations.

00:36:23.000 Hirono's making that obvious, right?

00:36:25.000 Hirono says that Kavanaugh will always have an asterisk over his name no matter what happens from now on, which is a pretty hellish standard.

00:36:31.000 If the way we're going to now run things is that there's an asterisk by your name if an allegation is even made about you, what's to prevent allegations from being made about everyone at any time for any reason, and then there's just a cloud surrounding you?

00:36:43.000 That's why we require evidence.

00:36:44.000 That's why evidence is useful.

00:36:46.000 If we're going to ruin somebody's life, at the very least we ought to have some evidence their life ought to be ruined.

00:36:50.000 That's not what we've seen so far.

00:36:51.000 Here's Hirono.

00:36:52.000 Should he get on the court, there will always be an asterisk and a cloud over his name and on his name.

00:36:59.000 And I think that is not what we want to do to the Supreme Court.

00:37:04.000 And to be frank about this, you know, when she says that there will always be an asterisk over his name, Democrats have tried to place an asterisk by the name of every single justice who's been appointed by a Republican for the last 25 years.

00:37:14.000 Clarence Thomas, George W. Bush appointed two of them.

00:37:17.000 Democrats say he wasn't even elected properly, so both of those should be out of bounds.

00:37:20.000 And now they're trying to do the exact same thing.

00:37:23.000 With both Gorsuch and now with Kavanaugh, right?

00:37:28.000 Both of them were appointed by Trump who lost the popular vote and who stole the seat from Merrick Garland.

00:37:32.000 So all five of the justices appointed by Republicans who currently are sitting on the court or about to sit on the court, Democrats have attempted to create a miasma of confusion about.

00:37:42.000 And that miasma of confusion extends to the way that they talk about the case itself.

00:37:46.000 So Christine Blasey Ford is the one who wants to limit the Senate coverage. 1.00

00:37:49.000 And she says she only wants one camera in the room.

00:37:51.000 And apparently Republicans agreed to that, which is insane.

00:37:54.000 That's insane.

00:37:55.000 I don't even know why you would agree to such a thing.

00:37:58.000 Why would you agree to one camera in the room?

00:38:00.000 And we have one camera in the room right now.

00:38:02.000 Why?

00:38:02.000 Because there's only one target for the camera in the room.

00:38:04.000 It's me.

00:38:05.000 But if we wanted Colton on camera, now we're asking Colton questions, you'd need two cameras in the room, otherwise you just get the camera swiveling.

00:38:11.000 And it's silly.

00:38:12.000 You'd want to see my reaction to Colton's answers, for example.

00:38:15.000 If ever we were to interview Colton for some bizarre reason.

00:38:18.000 But the reality is that in this particular case, you need a camera on her, and you need a camera on the person asking the questions.

00:38:24.000 You need two cameras.

00:38:25.000 Republicans apparently agreed to one.

00:38:26.000 She doesn't want mass press coverage, so she wants to limit the number of people in the room. 1.00

00:38:30.000 I don't understand how she's being allowed to get away with any of this.

00:38:33.000 She was allowed to drive across the country instead of fly.

00:38:36.000 Based on what?

00:38:38.000 Not clear.

00:38:39.000 None of that is clear.

00:38:40.000 All of this just, it just stinks to high heaven.

00:38:43.000 It just stinks to high heaven.

00:38:44.000 Until I see more evidence, I cannot buy into this.

00:38:47.000 This is not to say that the allegations, if they are credible, and if they are, if there's any evidence to them, that they shouldn't be damaging.

00:38:53.000 They should.

00:38:54.000 But because they are damaging, that's why we need evidence.

00:38:56.000 That's the whole purpose of having evidence in any of these cases in the first place.

00:38:59.000 Okay, so, meanwhile, Ted Cruz was chased out of a restaurant. 0.88

00:39:05.000 You want to generate sympathy for Ted Cruz, all you have to do is unleash a bunch of nasty leftists on him.

00:39:12.000 So he went to a restaurant in the Washington, D.C. 0.92

00:39:13.000 area, apparently, and he was immediately chased out of the restaurant by a bunch of lefties who were screaming at him.

00:39:20.000 We believe survivors!

00:39:22.000 We believe survivors!

00:39:23.000 We believe survivors!

00:39:25.000 We believe survivors!

00:39:27.000 We believe survivors!

00:39:29.000 We believe survivors!

00:39:31.000 We believe survivors!

00:39:33.000 We believe survivors!

00:39:34.000 We believe survivors!

00:39:36.000 We believe survivors!

00:39:38.000 We believe survivors!

00:39:40.000 We believe survivors!

00:39:43.000 Okay, so he's there with his wife and they're not letting his wife through and they're trying to impede her passage.

00:39:47.000 Really classy folks.

00:39:48.000 These folks are just classy. 0.93

00:39:50.000 This is smash racism DC.

00:39:52.000 Because obviously this has to do with racism for some odd reason that nobody knows.

00:39:57.000 So there are a bunch of videos around this.

00:39:58.000 Apparently one shows a woman who identified herself as a constituent and a survivor of sexual assault said, I'd love to talk with you about Brett Kavanaugh.

00:40:05.000 I'm a constituent.

00:40:06.000 I'd love to know what your vote is going to be.

00:40:07.000 I know you're very close friends with Mr. Kavanaugh.

00:40:09.000 Do you believe survivors, sir? 1.00

00:40:10.000 Again, this is such a stupid question. 0.99

00:40:12.000 Do you believe survivors? 1.00

00:40:14.000 I believe survivors when there's evidence to back their case.

00:40:18.000 I'm not saying I don't believe survivors when there's not evidence, but I don't have enough evidence to say I fully believe them.

00:40:24.000 I can say I find their account credible, but I can't say I fully believe every detail of that account without any corroborative evidence from 30 years ago.

00:40:31.000 I can't do that.

00:40:32.000 Hey, because it's a leading question.

00:40:35.000 It's a circular question.

00:40:36.000 Do you believe survivors assumes the truth of the accusation?

00:40:40.000 Right?

00:40:40.000 I mean, because you're saying she's a survivor, so that means that the accusation is by necessity true.

00:40:44.000 And saying, like, do you believe the account of a Holocaust survivor?

00:40:47.000 Yes, because you called them a Holocaust survivor.

00:40:49.000 Hey, do I believe the account of Richard Blumenthal that he served in Vietnam?

00:40:52.000 No, right?

00:40:53.000 Because he wasn't telling the truth about all of that.

00:40:56.000 So it depends on the account that's being stated.

00:41:00.000 It's not a properly formed question, as we might say in the legal profession.

00:41:04.000 It is an improperly formed question.

00:41:06.000 The question is, do you believe every allegation of sexual assault ever made by a woman?

00:41:10.000 That is the question that actually is to be asked.

00:41:12.000 And the answer to that, obviously, should be no.

00:41:15.000 Because there are some accusations that are not true, or people misremember, or they get the facts wrong.

00:41:20.000 But, that means that we have to run Ted Cruz out of a restaurant, and people on the left will say, well, you know, that's good, Ted Cruz deserves it.

00:41:25.000 You gotta live out your values in public life.

00:41:28.000 Listen, I'm lucky.

00:41:28.000 I go to kosher restaurants, and I'm pretty popular with my crew.

00:41:31.000 So when I go to kosher restaurants, this has never happened to me.

00:41:34.000 But I could see it happening if I was ever out to lunch with some folks, you know, and just having my typical water while they eat a nice dinner.

00:41:42.000 If I were to do that, I could see this happening.

00:41:44.000 The idea that we're going to extend all of this to public life?

00:41:47.000 You want a worse country?

00:41:48.000 We're getting it right here.

00:41:50.000 So Beto O'Rourke condemned it.

00:41:52.000 Good for him.

00:41:52.000 He said,

00:42:00.000 O'Rourke is exactly correct, of course.

00:42:02.000 And we know that in June, Maxine Waters suggested that people do exactly this sort of thing.

00:42:05.000 So this is a split among members of the Democratic Party as to whether this sort of activity is okay or not.

00:42:11.000 Okay, meanwhile, President Trump was at the UN yesterday.

00:42:13.000 He's at the UN today as well.

00:42:15.000 He's presiding over the Security Council.

00:42:16.000 And it is, in fact, deeply amusing to watch him gavel to silence the constituencies, the representatives of China, for example.

00:42:23.000 He's actually sitting there with a gavel, which is pretty awesome.

00:42:26.000 But he gave a speech at the UN General Assembly yesterday.

00:42:29.000 And it was quite good.

00:42:30.000 There was a lot there that was quite good.

00:42:32.000 He said that we defend sovereignty.

00:42:33.000 This was his sort of main claim.

00:42:35.000 I think that this particular claim is not one of his best.

00:42:38.000 And he says we defend sovereignty of other nations.

00:42:41.000 And then he sort of suggests that they get to define their own values.

00:42:45.000 That's true to a point, obviously.

00:42:46.000 It is not true to the ultimate point, which is that you get to define how you treat your people without any sort of interference from the outside.

00:42:52.000 That obviously is untrue.

00:42:54.000 But here was the president making his main point, talking about America first and sovereignty.

00:42:58.000 To unleash this incredible potential in our people, we must defend the foundations that make it all possible.

00:43:07.000 Sovereign and independent nations are the only vehicle where freedom has ever survived, democracy has ever endured, or peace has ever prospered.

00:43:22.000 And so we must protect our sovereignty and our cherished independence above all.

00:43:29.000 So I agree with all of that, right?

00:43:31.000 Everything that he just said there about nationalism actually being a good vehicle, everything there about nationalism being a good vehicle for human society, agree.

00:43:39.000 And the idea of a global government where we're all brothers, a brotherhood of man, as John Lennon says in Imagine, that's a bunch of nonsense.

00:43:45.000 With that said, even Trump believes that nationalism doesn't mean that sovereignty is completely left alone, right?

00:43:53.000 So for example,

00:43:54.000 He said this about socialism and communism.

00:43:56.000 He basically said Venezuela can't run things like the Venezuelan government is currently running things.

00:44:00.000 That's a breach of Venezuelan sovereignty, I would imagine.

00:44:03.000 The basic rule about Venezuela and the basic rule about nationalism is that nationalism is good so long as it follows good ends and uses good means.

00:44:12.000 It is not good so long as it involves genocide against a population or so long as it involves socialism and communism, destruction of the rights of the individual.

00:44:20.000 Here is President Trump going off about Venezuela.

00:44:22.000 He's correct about this, obviously.

00:44:24.000 Virtually everywhere socialism or communism has been tried, it has produced suffering, corruption, and decay.

00:44:34.000 Socialism's thirst for power leads to expansion, incursion, and oppression.

00:44:42.000 All nations of the world should resist socialism and the misery that it brings to everyone.

00:44:51.000 In that spirit,

00:44:53.000 We ask the nations gathered here to join us in calling for the restoration of democracy in Venezuela.

00:45:01.000 Okay, so obviously when he talks about sovereignty, he only means that sovereignty applies so far as it doesn't violate sovereign human rights and individual rights, which is correct, which is correct.

00:45:10.000 And I think that he should make that clear in future speeches, but a lot of this is very good.

00:45:14.000 And it is good to have a president who goes before the UN and doesn't make apologies for the United States.

00:45:18.000 I mean, I think President Trump is at his best in international scenarios because a muscular America on the world stage defending her own interests is a very good thing for the world as a general rule.

00:45:28.000 An America that goes in front of the U.N.

00:45:30.000 and apologizes for Ferguson or Baltimore, which is what Barack Obama did in front of the U.N., apologizes for American interests, apologizes for America promoting her own interests around the world, suggesting that national sovereignty of bad countries is more important than human rights or national sovereignty of good countries.

00:45:48.000 That was devastating stuff.

00:45:50.000 And I know that a lot of people say, oh well, you know, President Trump went there and he got laughed at by the international community.

00:45:54.000 Why do you care if a second-rate dictator is laughing at you, so long as we're taking action to stop the second-rate dictator?

00:46:01.000 I would much prefer that the second-rate radical Islamic dictators of Iran laugh at President Trump and feel it in their pocketbook than that they smile at President Obama and enrich themselves on the back of their own people and then use all of that money to fund terrorism. 0.98

00:46:15.000 So, President Trump, I thought, did a just fine job at the UN in the General Assembly yesterday.

00:46:21.000 The way that he talked about Israel and Iran, I thought, was just terrific.

00:46:25.000 Here's what the President said with regard to Iran.

00:46:29.000 It's a very different language than President Obama was using just a couple of years ago.

00:46:33.000 This year, we also took another significant step forward in the Middle East in recognition of every sovereign state to determine its own capital.

00:46:46.000 I moved the U.S.

00:46:47.000 Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.

00:46:51.000 The United States is committed to a future of peace and stability in the region, including peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians.

00:47:03.000 That aim is advanced, not harmed, by acknowledging the obvious facts.

00:47:11.000 Okay, and then what do you have to say about the Israelis and Palestinians?

00:47:13.000 Obviously a far cry from when Barack Obama would go to the UN and suggest that all world problems were to be laid at the feet of the Jews.

00:47:19.000 They would be laid at the feet of the Israelis, who are of course so intransigent with regard to, you know, the terrorist groups on their borders.

00:47:24.000 And if they would only be a little nicer, that would solve the problems with regard to Iran.

00:47:29.000 I do like that the President's America First attitude on the world stage means that we're going to stand up to bad countries again.

00:47:36.000 He was doing that today in the Security Council.

00:47:39.000 Apparently he said today in the Security Council that China has been attempting to interfere with our elections.

00:47:43.000 He suggested that Russian interference in Syria cannot go unnoticed.

00:47:48.000 All of that is very good stuff.

00:47:50.000 So good for the President of the United States.

00:47:51.000 More of that.

00:47:52.000 More of the President speaking on international affairs in the face of countries that are pursuing evil ends.

00:47:57.000 And, you know, less of the President tweeting.

00:47:59.000 I think the last several weeks for the President have actually been quite good. 0.98

00:48:01.000 He's really kept himself from saying the obviously dumb thing.

00:48:07.000 Much more frequently than usual, and that would be good. 0.61

00:48:09.000 I'd like to see a continuation of that.

00:48:11.000 Again, if I were running the president's team, I would be sending the president abroad as often as possible to talk about how bad Iran is, to talk about foreign policy and building up America's military capacity, to talk about building up America economically. 0.61

00:48:23.000 The president performs pretty well overseas, generally.

00:48:27.000 Generally.

00:48:28.000 I'm not gonna include Helsinki in that particular assessment.

00:48:30.000 Okay, so, let's do a couple of things I like, and then a couple of things I hate, and then we will be back here tomorrow with a lot more from the Christine Blasey Ford hearing.

00:48:38.000 So, things I like.

00:48:39.000 Over the Jewish holidays, I did some light reading.

00:48:41.000 I was reading Paradise Lost by John Milton.

00:48:43.000 If you've never actually read Paradise Lost,

00:48:45.000 It is a masterful use of the English language and people misread paradise law so because we live in a post-romantic era in which people value emotions above facts and in which people value rebellion and passion above

00:48:59.000 I think lucid thought.

00:49:00.000 People for a long time have identified Satan in Paradise Lost as sort of the anti-hero, that really the hero of Paradise Lost is Satan, right?

00:49:09.000 Satan fights a war with God because he doesn't feel like paying obeisance to God all the time, and so God casts him down, and then Satan infiltrates the world and acts as the snake in order to seduce mankind into original sin, and then God sends Jesus in order to make up for the original sin, basically.

00:49:23.000 But Satan gets all the good speeches.

00:49:25.000 There's no question about this.

00:49:26.000 I mean, when you read it, Satan gets all the good dialogue.

00:49:28.000 So everything Satan says is really compelling because good evil characters on film and in plays and in Paradise Lost are very compelling because something draws us to the passion of evil.

00:49:39.000 That's true.

00:49:39.000 But Milton specifically said that this book was written

00:49:42.000 And this epic poem was written as a piece of theodicy.

00:49:46.000 It was trying to explain why bad things happen to good people, why original sin occurred, what God's actual plan is, trying to justify the actions of God.

00:49:52.000 And if you read it with sympathy for Satan in mind, you're getting it completely wrong.

00:49:56.000 The whole point is that Satan is cunning.

00:49:58.000 The whole point is that Satan is deceptive.

00:50:00.000 The whole point is that Satan is attractive.

00:50:02.000 And that if we are to look to our own lives and see the activities of what we in Judaism call the yetzer hara, the kind of evil inclination, we would see that it's not as obvious as 0.97

00:50:11.000 Somebody just saying, let's go do something evil, it really more often is somebody saying, let's go do something brave.

00:50:18.000 Let's go do something spectacular.

00:50:19.000 Let's go do something that fits our ends.

00:50:21.000 And if in doing so, we have to break a few eggs, well, I guess that we'll have to do that.

00:50:25.000 There's something attractive about that to the human nature, to the human mind.

00:50:28.000 That doesn't mean that Satan is right and God is wrong.

00:50:30.000 It means that we are wrong and God is right.

00:50:31.000 And that's what Paradise Lost is really about.

00:50:34.000 The word choice, the biblical references, it's just magnificent.

00:50:37.000 I've really never spent any time with it before.

00:50:39.000 It's truly incredible.

00:50:39.000 So go check it out.

00:50:40.000 Paradise Lost by John Milton.

00:50:42.000 Okay.

00:50:43.000 Time for a couple of things that I hate.

00:50:48.000 So, things that I hate today. 0.83

00:50:50.000 So, Bill Cosby, good, was convicted on an account of date rape, basically, where he was quaaluding women and then having sex with them against their will, which is what Michael Avenatti is now accusing sort of Brett Kavanaugh of doing.

00:51:03.000 So if Brett Kavanaugh is guilty of it, then obviously Brett Kavanaugh should go down, but you're going to need some actual proof. 0.96

00:51:08.000 So Bill Cosby's lawyer said the dumbest thing that is possible to say here.

00:51:12.000 And he said that Bill Cosby being persecuted here after acknowledging that he used Quaaludes, like Bill Cosby said, he himself said he used Quaaludes when he was with women. 0.90

00:51:22.000 His lawyer says that this was just like the persecution of Jesus.

00:51:26.000 Jesus didn't date rape people. 1.00

00:51:27.000 Just FYI.

00:51:29.000 For those who've never read the New Testament, nothing in there about Jesus turning the water into the wine without the consent of the women.

00:51:35.000 That was not actually a thing. 0.67

00:51:37.000 So here is Bill Cosby's lawyer saying silly things.

00:51:40.000 Mr. Cosby's doing great, and Mr. Cosby knows that God is watching over him. 0.74

00:51:45.000 He knows that these are lies.

00:51:48.000 They persecuted Jesus, and look what happened.

00:51:50.000 I'm not saying Mr. Cosby's Jesus, but we know what this country has done to black men for centuries.

00:51:57.000 Well, I don't think that this is about his race.

00:51:59.000 I think this has a lot more to do with the fact that there are a bunch of women, as in dozens of women, who came forward with credible allegations, all of which backed one another.

00:52:07.000 Now, here's the part where it gets dicey.

00:52:08.000 A CNN guest goes on and says, Really?

00:52:10.000 Can't I?

00:52:10.000 Why not?

00:52:15.000 You know, during the break, I'm scrolling through Twitter and I'm looking at people actually saying and applauding the judge in this sentence, and then in the same breath, wanting to defend Kavanaugh.

00:52:25.000 And it's disturbing to me, because again, like Areva said, this is a monumental, defining moment this week, when you have someone like Cosby going to prison, and then in the same breath, having Kavanaugh possibly going to the highest court in the land.

00:52:40.000 This is Yodit Tewald.

00:52:41.000 Her name is... It is idiotic. 1.00

00:52:44.000 Her name is Yodit Tewald. 1.00

00:52:45.000 She's a criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor.

00:52:47.000 No, the difference is that there was actual evidence in the Bill Cosby case.

00:52:50.000 Like corroborative evidence.

00:52:53.000 Not the same thing.

00:52:58.000 The fact that Democrats are trying to link together Cosby and Kavanaugh without actual evidence that Kavanaugh did any of this stuff yet, outside of the allegations themselves, pretty astonishing and demonstrative of just how intellectually bankrupt a lot of folks on the left are.

00:53:11.000 When the evidence is presented,

00:53:13.000 I am more than happy to follow the evidence, but I'm actually going to have to see that evidence.

00:53:16.000 That doesn't make me a sexist.

00:53:17.000 It doesn't make me someone who takes sexual abuse lightly.

00:53:19.000 It makes me someone who likes evidence before we decide that we're going to destroy somebody based on accusations alone, unsourced accusations alone.

00:53:28.000 Okay, well, we'll be back here tomorrow with all the latest high drama as Christine Blasey Ford heads to the Senate to testify, being questioned by an Arizona prosecutor. 0.98

00:53:35.000 Brett Kavanaugh will be there as well, and we'll be there to cover all of it.

00:53:38.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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Insanity Intensifies | Ep. 627

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