The Ben Shapiro Show - Kanye Believe It? | Ep. 525

00:00:00.000 Kanye West gets labeled alt-right by a Washington Post writer, Pat Buchanan stems for the end of democracy, and the New York Times tells a romantic story about a lesbian and a transgender woman conceiving a child.

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00:01:38.000 There's a serious question to be asked about what it takes to be labeled alt-right these days. 0.95

00:01:42.000 So, as someone who is quite familiar with the alt-right, you may recall all the way back to the 2016 election cycle when the alt-right and I went at it on a routine basis, mainly because they didn't like that I was a cuck Jew and I didn't like that they were a bunch of anti-Semitic mind freaks. 0.79

00:01:54.000 So, I'm not fond of the alt-right. 0.97

00:01:55.000 I find the alt-right despicable.

00:01:57.000 And when I say alt-right, I don't mean people who like memes.

00:01:59.000 I think memes are funny.

00:02:00.000 I don't mean people who voted for Donald Trump, because the vast majority of those people are not alt-right. 1.00

00:02:04.000 I mean people who are actual racists, who believe that there is a white supremacy inherent in the color of your skin, which is stupid and ridiculous and anti-democratic. 0.98

00:02:14.000 Well, the problem is that the left has now broadened out the label alt-right to apply to anyone. 0.99

00:02:18.000 So, they've labeled me alt-right, which is

00:02:20.000 Incredibly insane.

00:02:21.000 I mean, like, full-on insane, considering I was the number one target of the alt-right in 2016.

00:02:26.000 According to the Anti-Defamation League, I was the number one recipient of anti-Semitic tweets among Jewish journalists, with a bullet.

00:02:31.000 I mean, I'm talking 40% of all anti-Semitic tweets directed at journalists, many of these from the alt-right, were directed at me personally.

00:02:37.000 And yet now I am supposed to believe that I'm a member of the alt-right.

00:02:41.000 What made me a member of the alt-right?

00:02:43.000 What made me a member of the alt-right is that I am not on the left.

00:02:45.000 And the latest beneficiary of this particularly bizarre line of logic is, of course, our future president, Kanye West.

00:02:52.000 So, a few days ago, I warned you that if you're conservative and you are supremely

00:02:57.000 Just in love with the fact that Kanye West is saying some mildly conservative things on Twitter, you might want to hold off.

00:03:02.000 You might say, great, I'm glad he said that on Twitter, but before you start declaring that he's a presidential candidate, before you start saying he's a celebrity who knows things, you might want to take a look at his older tweets, which include things like, fur pillows are hard to sleep on.

00:03:13.000 True, true, I can't argue with that tweet, but not exactly in line with, I would say, the intellectual thinking of the conservative movement, but

00:03:23.000 Because Kanye tweeted these relatively mild things about how victim mentality is not good, and how you have to go out and work for yourself, and how he likes Candace Owens, who is the communications director of Returning Point USA, working with Charlie Kirk, both good folks.

00:03:37.000 Well now, there's a person who's written for the Washington Post, her name is Molly Roberts, and she says that Kanye West is an alt-right darling.

00:03:43.000 Which is weird, since the alt-right is not particularly fond of black people.

00:03:47.000 But again, this is the way that the left shrinks that Overton window.

00:03:50.000 The left says there is a window of acceptable rhetoric, and if you're not on the left, you are outside that window of acceptable rhetoric.

00:03:55.000 Sure, Kanye spent most of the 2000s saying that George W. Bush was a vicious racist, but now he's out of the tent because he says that self-victimization is a disease.

00:04:04.000 And that's, I think, a direct quote.

00:04:05.000 So here is what this leftist writes over at the Washington Post.

00:04:08.000 Quote, Kanye West was having a great weekend until he wasn't.

00:04:12.000 One moment, the rapper-producer-entrepreneur was dispensing pearls of pseudo-philosophy on Twitter to the retweets of adoring observers.

00:04:17.000 The next, many of those same admirers had turned to denouncing him instead.

00:04:21.000 Oh, and he had become an alt-right darling.

00:04:23.000 Whatever West is going through at the moment, the response to his Twitter spree reveals more about the people who have fled from him.

00:04:28.000 And those who have flocked to him, too.

00:04:30.000 West's fortunes reversed, writes this writer for the Washington Post, Molly Roberts, when he expressed his admiration on Saturday for red pill YouTuber Candace Owens, an African-American Donald Trump supporter known for, among other things, referring to Black Lives Matter protesters as whiny toddlers pretending to be oppressed for attention.

00:04:46.000 The following day, he tweeted nine videos from Scott Adams, who gained his fame first for creating the cartoon Dilbert, and second for proclaiming that rape is a natural instinct of men and society a virtual prison for men's desires.

00:04:56.000 Okay, that is taking Scott Adams wildly out of context.

00:04:58.000 I believe Scott Adams' actual argument is that natural instincts of human beings are bad and this is why you create civilizations, which I thought was a relatively uncomplicated and uncontroversial

00:05:08.000 In any case, as Molly Roberts continues, it's easy to cast West as just another lost man, seduced by the far-right's promise to provide a sense of purpose.

00:05:17.000 All that pseudo-philosophy does suggest a preoccupation with the sort of existential problems figures such as psychologist Jordan Peterson, who has become a surprise lifestyle guru, claim they can solve.

00:05:26.000 It's also possible to connect West's eccentric behavior on Twitter—this isn't the first time his forays into politics have discomfited some fans—to the mental health struggles that led to his 2017 hospitalization.

00:05:35.000 So let's get this straight. 0.96

00:05:36.000 Kanye West has been tweeting crazy crap for most of his career. 0.98

00:05:40.000 I mean, I read you some of his tweets the other day, okay? 0.99

00:05:43.000 Like, talking about finding antique fish tanks, right?

00:05:46.000 That he needs an antique fish tank.

00:05:48.000 Talking about how he is looking for a marble table, a marble conference table, because he can't actually have a meeting without a marble conference table.

00:05:55.000 Kanye is the guy who tweeted, I love me some me, right?

00:05:57.000 I mean, Kanye is famous for not being... Unhinged might be a word that you might use in connection with Kanye.

00:06:03.000 This is a guy famous for charging on a stage in the middle of a music awards ceremony to yell at Taylor Swift.

00:06:09.000 And now, only now, does the left discover that Kanye might be a bit unstable.

00:06:13.000 Why is he unstable?

00:06:14.000 Because he tweeted that he likes Candace Owens' videos.

00:06:17.000 All right, well, this is the way this is gonna go.

00:06:19.000 Also, I love that they link Jordan Peterson, a former professor at Harvard University and now a professor over at University of Toronto, widely understood to be one of the smarter humans alive.

00:06:32.000 to Kanye West, that West is just another lost man seduced by the far-right's promise to provide a sense of purpose.

00:06:37.000 It's so funny how the left talks about this.

00:06:39.000 They never talk about followers of Bernie Sanders this way.

00:06:41.000 Bernie Sanders promises to provide a sense of purpose also, right?

00:06:45.000 His sense of purpose lies in the collective, and his sense of purpose is, I will tell you how you can help fix all of the problems of planet Earth by giving me lots of power and by redistributing all wealth.

00:06:54.000 The left never says, look at all these Bernie bros, right?

00:06:56.000 These are guys who are lost, looking for something to do, bored, useless, and now they found a sense of purpose in Bernie Sanders.

00:07:03.000 But when it comes to somebody on the right, then all of a sudden it's lost, angry young man experiencing existential angst.

00:07:11.000 Welcome to the real world where a lot of people experience existential angst.

00:07:14.000 The question is, who can cater to that in a healthy way?

00:07:16.000 Jordan caters to that in a healthy way, but now they're saying that Kanye West is a Jordan Peterson devotee or something?

00:07:22.000 I wish Kanye West were a Jordan Peterson devotee.

00:07:24.000 I mean, I think that would be really good for Kanye.

00:07:25.000 In fact, Kanye, go over and listen to Jordan Peterson's lectures on the Bible, on the Enlightenment.

00:07:32.000 I think that that'd be great for you.

00:07:33.000 But the Washington Post says that all of this makes Kanye West crazy.

00:07:36.000 So he wasn't crazy when he was crazy. 0.91

00:07:38.000 He's crazy when he's conservative. 0.55

00:07:40.000 And the Washington Post continues.

00:07:41.000 So I love this too.

00:07:42.000 So, Kanye, who was supremely wealthy during Hurricane Katrina, I mean, the guy was worth tens of millions of dollars by the time of Hurricane Katrina.

00:07:47.000 At that point, he wasn't out of touch.

00:08:10.000 Now he's out of touch, and you can tell that he's out of touch because he's saying things that Molly Roberts doesn't like in the Washington Post.

00:08:16.000 That's how you can tell, right?

00:08:17.000 I mean, you know he's out of touch now.

00:08:18.000 You know he's a member of the alt-right because he said that self-victimization is a problem, because he said that you're in control of your own life.

00:08:24.000 Kanye says these things, and boom, this dude is like Hitler.

00:08:27.000 He is just like Hitler, and now he's not even a real black person, is what Molly Roberts is really saying, because a real black person would feel an authentic tie to his roots. 0.54

00:08:35.000 And Kanye doesn't feel an authentic tie to his roots anymore because he's become so wealthy and so cloistered. 0.93

00:08:40.000 Weird, I haven't heard the same thing about Snoop Dogg, because Snoop Dogg makes videos about shooting the President of the United States.

00:08:46.000 Snoop Dogg is woke, so Snoop Dogg obviously has a tie back to the people, but Kanye has no tie back to those people, obviously because he's wealthy.

00:08:54.000 What happened is Kanye got rich, and then he was on the left, but he still had a tie to his people.

00:08:58.000 But then he was still rich, and now he is saying things that aren't left-wing, and this means that he has lost all tie to being black. 0.56

00:09:04.000 Kanye West is basically like Bill Nye the Science Guy in blackface. 0.73

00:09:07.000 That's basically what he is right now.

00:09:09.000 Except if Bill and I were right-wing.

00:09:11.000 He's just a white guy.

00:09:12.000 There are people who are saying he's gone to the sunken place, which is a reference to what I thought was the racially polarizing movie Get Out, which was overlooked by all the critics.

00:09:21.000 The bad racial messaging in Get Out was overlooked by all the critics because obviously it was a left-wing film.

00:09:28.000 The Washington Post continues, Okay, so here is what Molly Roberts writes in the Washington Post.

00:09:31.000 Progressives.

00:09:55.000 But the moment West expressed his approval of Owens, liberals recoiled.

00:09:58.000 Eager to signal their lefty credentials, they withdrew their support the moment West went against the party line, which sort of sounds like this writer.

00:10:04.000 Then there's the right, all's and otherwise.

00:10:05.000 Most conservatives had less interest in West's work, and they certainly didn't like it when he condemned Bush.

00:10:09.000 But now, a lineup of luminaries on the right has assembled to defend West against liberal hoards.

00:10:13.000 Where Alex Jones once called West a microcosm of America's degeneration,

00:10:18.000 He now praises his bold moves against the Thought Police.

00:10:20.000 Where Bill O'Reilly once described West as a disease, the former Fox host on Sunday decried the attack against him by American Stalinists.

00:10:26.000 Okay, so first of all, I would just like to point out that Alex Jones is not really particularly representative of the American right.

00:10:32.000 Right?

00:10:33.000 You know, like Alex Jones.

00:10:34.000 Alex Jones!

00:10:35.000 Like that guy?

00:10:36.000 Not supremely representative of the American right.

00:10:39.000 Most people on the American right were like, okay, glad Kanye's saying some nice stuff.

00:10:43.000 Guy's still Kanye.

00:10:44.000 He's weird.

00:10:46.000 What do you have to say?

00:10:46.000 Like, nothing here.

00:10:48.000 But you can feel all these same things.

00:10:50.000 Like, I did an entire segment two days ago about why conservatives should not be over the moon about Kanye West suddenly embracing the right-wing agenda.

00:10:58.000 At the same time, I'm defending him from American Stalinists like this column.

00:11:01.000 I mean, this is this sort of thought policing.

00:11:03.000 Kanye West said something bad. 0.98

00:11:04.000 He must be crazy. 1.00

00:11:06.000 He must be a right-wing racist. 1.00

00:11:08.000 It's all insane. 1.00

00:11:09.000 It's all insane.

00:11:10.000 So this Molly Roberts concludes,

00:11:17.000 West has hyped up his announced album even further with the publicity he gained from courting controversy.

00:11:21.000 Liberals have shown off their willingness to enforce ideological purity no matter who the offender is.

00:11:25.000 And the far right has demonstrated once again they're willing to flip-flop at the slightest sign they might be able to land a mainstream celebrity recruit.

00:11:31.000 Don't trade your authenticity for approval, West tweeted last week.

00:11:33.000 Too late.

00:11:35.000 Okay, well, again, the left would not be complaining because they were talking for years about what a woke guy he was when he was ripping into George W. Bush.

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00:13:01.000 Okay, so...

00:13:02.000 Meanwhile, while the West is consumed with the saga of Kanye West, I think that it is important to give an update on the situation regarding Alfie Evans, who's this two-year-old child in Great Britain.

00:13:13.000 So this two-year-old child in Great Britain, almost two, has been condemned to die by the British courts.

00:13:18.000 His parents want to remove him from Britain.

00:13:19.000 The Italian government has sent a plane.

00:13:21.000 The Italian government has said that they will provide for his medical care in Italy.

00:13:24.000 And the British government is saying, no, we will not let him out.

00:13:27.000 This is like Pharaoh. 0.88

00:13:27.000 We will not let him go. 0.88

00:13:29.000 We will not let him go to save his life because he must die with dignity. 0.56

00:13:32.000 And we say that death with dignity means dying in our hospital at our behest.

00:13:35.000 Now, number one, the idea of dying with dignity is such an insulting term.

00:13:39.000 Just the very terminology of dying with dignity is really bizarre because

00:13:44.000 Everybody is gonna die, and the suggestion that if you cling to life that somehow you lack dignity, or the suggestion that if you meet your end, being sad about your impending death, that this means that you are somehow lacking in courage, that there is a dignified way to go, and the dignified way to go is in a hospital surrounded by people who are pumping juice into you, or, alternatively, the dignified way to go is for us to unhook a baby and watch that baby suffocate to death because the baby can't breathe properly, doesn't seem super dignified to me.

00:14:10.000 You know, everybody has to face death.

00:14:12.000 Your choice as an adult is how to face it.

00:14:14.000 But as a child, there's no such thing as dying with dignity.

00:14:17.000 There just isn't.

00:14:17.000 Because you're not capable of dignity as a two-year-old.

00:14:20.000 I have a two-year-old boy.

00:14:21.000 He's not capable of dignity.

00:14:22.000 He's capable of pooping in his pants and being cute.

00:14:24.000 This is what my two-year-old is capable of.

00:14:26.000 He's awesome.

00:14:26.000 I love him.

00:14:27.000 Dignity ain't on the menu.

00:14:29.000 But the idea that you're going to take a two-year-old who's dying of a horrible brain disease and then say, this child has to die with dignity. 1.00

00:14:36.000 It's such a stupid, insulting term. 1.00

00:14:38.000 It's just a ridiculous term. 1.00

00:14:40.000 And beyond that, the arrogance of these folks to say that they know more than the parents about what is best for the child and what's best for the child is to die without this experimental treatment. 0.98

00:14:48.000 Who the hell are they to decide that?

00:14:50.000 Who are they to decide what sort of life is best worth living?

00:14:53.000 The medical profession used to be about the Hippocratic Oath, preserving life as long as humanly possible.

00:14:58.000 Now the medical profession has become the great arbiter of the lives that are worthy.

00:15:02.000 This is true in Great Britain.

00:15:03.000 It's true in the United States as well.

00:15:04.000 You have people like Ezekiel Emanuel saying he wants to die at 80 because he doesn't want to live with disease.

00:15:09.000 Well, that's his choice.

00:15:10.000 He can do what he wants.

00:15:10.000 Free country.

00:15:12.000 But the idea that his standard for a dignified life should be the standard for everyone, even above the wishes of parents who are the ones who have to spend time with their child.

00:15:19.000 The father last night was giving mouth-to-mouth to his son because the hospital would not give his son oxygen.

00:15:25.000 Okay, this is evil what we're watching in Britain.

00:15:28.000 It's evil.

00:15:29.000 And that's happening because the bureaucracy, the centralized bureaucracy of great states have decided that they know more than the common man about virtue and vice.

00:15:37.000 They know more about dignity and death than the common person, including the common person who has to actually visit the gravestone.

00:15:43.000 None of these doctors are going to be going to Alfie's grave after the kid dies.

00:15:45.000 I promise you his parents will.

00:15:46.000 Just horrifying.

00:15:48.000 Okay, so, meanwhile... 0.95

00:15:50.000 Speaking of foolishness, we in the United States are consumed with the most important issues.

00:15:55.000 Here's an important issue from the New York Times, from Joanne Spatero. 0.57

00:15:59.000 Ms.

00:15:59.000 Spatero is a New York-based writer who's engaged to a transgender woman, which is to say, a man.

00:16:05.000 A biological man.

00:16:06.000 And here is the piece from the New York Times, because the New York Times only traffics in the most important ideas.

00:16:12.000 The things that we all have to come to grips with as a society.

00:16:15.000 No, not like religious freedom or the value of life.

00:16:18.000 Not stuff about whether the government ought to be involved in your healthcare decisions.

00:16:21.000 No.

00:16:22.000 What they have to be involved in is explaining how it is that a woman and a man who's had some hormone treatments can have a baby and it's the same thing as two lesbians magically having a baby. 0.54

00:16:33.000 Which is weird.

00:16:34.000 Weird.

00:16:35.000 Okay, so here's what it says.

00:16:37.000 Our society may have lost its moorings, just a little.

00:16:39.000 Okay, so here's what the New York Times piece from Joanne Spatero says.

00:16:43.000 Lara, again, is a biological man.

00:16:51.000 I've watched her stand in front of a mirror, singeing each hair out of her face with a second-hand electrolysis machine.

00:16:57.000 The return of her testosterone hasn't resulted in just the resurgence of facial hair.

00:17:00.000 Her pants now fit differently, too.

00:17:02.000 My own skin has been plagued by acne since I got off the pill six months ago, and my default states are angry, hungry, or sleeping.

00:17:07.000 Such are the perils of trying to have a child the way Lara and I are trying, without in vitro fertilization or cryogenically frozen sperm, the way fertile cisgender people do. 1.00

00:17:14.000 They simply couple up and boom, a child is born.

00:17:17.000 I'm not sure why there are perils involved with this.

00:17:21.000 I've done it twice.

00:17:22.000 It was great.

00:17:23.000 Okay, let's be real about this.

00:17:25.000 Maybe it's pretty awesome.

00:17:26.000 People have been doing it for hundreds of thousands of years.

00:17:30.000 Not seeing the tough part here.

00:17:31.000 And not seeing the reason we have to have a, let's look at this, 1200 word essay? 0.97

00:17:35.000 On you having sex with a dude who thinks he's a lady? 1.00

00:17:38.000 Not sure why that is worthy of space in the New York Times, but... 0.96

00:17:41.000 Alright, alright, I just, I love that everything, if you could run a scam, right, let's say, it's so funny, folks on the left are constantly thinking that, you know, the Bible thumpers, the people who believe in things like actual biology, that these people, what they're really seeking to do is they want to take lesbians and they want to marry them off to men and force them into a situation where they have to have biological children with a male.

00:18:02.000 I guess all we have to do now is declare that the man's a woman. 0.97

00:18:05.000 And then, we're good, right? 1.00

00:18:06.000 I mean, this woman's a lesbian, but she's having sex with a full-on man. 1.00

00:18:10.000 Because the man is a woman, but not really. 1.00

00:18:13.000 Because he says he's a woman because he has some sort of mental disorder.

00:18:17.000 And this is, again, worthy of coverage in the New York Times.

00:18:19.000 For many young trans people, the question of having babies is likely the last thing on their minds.

00:18:23.000 Who could blame them?

00:18:23.000 Like all young people, they're figuring out their future, and matters of diapers and breastfeeding seem abstract and far off.

00:18:28.000 But unlike all young people, young trans people are often making choices that have long-term consequences for their fertility, which is part of how I, a 32-year-old cisgender lesbian, and Lyra, my 33-year-old trans fiancé, came to be in the situation we're in today, trying to conceive a child even though Lyra transitioned nearly four years ago.

00:18:43.000 Well, Lyra transitioned, sort of.

00:18:45.000 Lyra still has the non-Lyra parts, right?

00:18:47.000 Lyra still has the John parts, or whatever Lyra's previous name was.

00:18:51.000 Her dead name, as they say.

00:18:53.000 I didn't even vaguely realize I wanted biological kids until my mid-twenties.

00:18:56.000 Before then, I'd vaguely imagined that children would simply come to me a la Auntie Mame or Diane Keaton in Baby Boom.

00:19:01.000 I'd inherit them from a long-lost relative and simply slot them into my independent, modern life.

00:19:06.000 Little did I know that in just a few years I'd be staying up to read studies in which scientists combined the eggs of two female rats to make a child, hoping for 50 more years on the planet so I'd be around when they began testing on humans. 0.85

00:19:15.000 But you don't need them to combine two female eggs, you're having sex with a dude who has sperm. 0.96

00:19:18.000 So that's... odd. 0.68

00:19:20.000 Again, the reason that I highlight this is just to demonstrate that when you cast out biological distinctions and pretend,

00:19:26.000 That science is something that science is not.

00:19:28.000 You end up with bizarre notions like the idea that it's some sort of great earth-shaking event when a man and a woman have sex and create a baby because the man has been taking some hormone treatments.

00:19:38.000 Also, this article is making a case that I'm pretty sure this writer doesn't want to make.

00:19:43.000 Which is that it may be worthwhile for transgender people not to actually mutilate their own genitals. 0.95

00:19:50.000 That it may be worthwhile for them to keep the genitals that they have so that they can actually procreate when they choose to do so. 0.98

00:19:55.000 This is actually the subtle case that is being made by this article, but it's pretty amazing.

00:20:01.000 It's pretty amazing.

00:20:02.000 So, at the very end, Joanne Spatero actually says that.

00:20:04.000 She says,

00:20:19.000 So, pretty interesting stuff, actually, is that the conclusion of the article is the conservative conclusion that you may want to wait to have hormone treatment and mutilate your body because you think that you are a member of the opposite sex, because you may never know what sort of choices you want to make later.

00:20:34.000 But this is what happens when a society decides to purposely confuse itself about basic concepts like what gender constitutes.

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00:21:52.000 Alright, so speaking of the media's promulgation of particular ideas about gender and transgenderism, it is pretty obvious that this is having a significant impact

00:22:16.000 I don't know.

00:22:37.000 Okay, and here is what the picture that she tweeted out says.

00:22:40.000 It says, lesbian, a woman who has only romantic feelings about women. 0.71

00:22:44.000 Gay, a man who has only romantic feelings about men. 0.96

00:22:46.000 Bi, a person who has romantic feelings about men and women.

00:22:49.000 Why would a seven-year-old need to know these things, you ask?

00:22:52.000 Because we have to indoctrinate them at seven years old, otherwise they'll turn out to be intolerant Americans. 0.60

00:22:56.000 Transgender, a person who is assigned male or female at birth but doesn't identify that way.

00:23:01.000 Okay, that is so anti-scientific, I cannot even begin to explain it.

00:23:05.000 Okay, you are not assigned male or female at birth.

00:23:08.000 It's not like the doctor sits there and flips a coin and goes, you know what?

00:23:11.000 You're a male.

00:23:12.000 I've just figured it out, you know, we're gonna assign it to you.

00:23:14.000 Right, just like you're given an assignment in class.

00:23:16.000 No, the doctor looks at the peepee, or the juju, and then says, you are a male or a female.

00:23:21.000 Okay, this is really not difficult.

00:23:23.000 Seriously, the doctor does not assign sex at birth.

00:23:25.000 By the way, if you're gonna say the doctor assigned sex,

00:23:27.000 We're good to go.

00:23:41.000 And you can tell whether the baby is a boy or a girl.

00:23:43.000 That's not a sign.

00:23:44.000 I mean, this notion that sex is some sort of social construct is so insane.

00:23:49.000 Or that gender is completely untethered from sex. 0.77

00:23:51.000 It doesn't even make sense according to the advocates of transgenderism.

00:23:55.000 If gender and sex are completely untethered, then why is it that transgender people want to appear to look like women? 1.00

00:24:00.000 Why is it that transgender people find it important to use female names? 1.00

00:24:04.000 If all this is untethered from sex and completely arbitrary, then wouldn't you just assume you could be transgender without picking up any of those cultural stereotypes that have been created by that patriarchal white cisgender society?

00:24:16.000 Also, these second graders are learning, a person who is assigned male or female at birth and does identify that way is a cisgender person.

00:24:23.000 A queer person, it's complex and can mean a lot of things.

00:24:25.000 A person who doesn't identify as straight or bi or gay or lesbian.

00:24:29.000 Well, thanks for that clarification.

00:24:31.000 And straight is a man who only has romantic feelings about women or a woman who only has romantic feelings about men.

00:24:35.000 Again, I'm so glad that second graders are learning this in Jessica Valenti's second grade child's class.

00:24:41.000 Very important stuff.

00:24:43.000 The reason I bring this up is because the same government that says it gets to decide whether your child should live or die in Britain is the same government that gets to decide whether your school teaches you this propaganda or not.

00:24:55.000 Okay, so there's a Jewish school in Britain

00:24:58.000 It's now, it's been threatened for two years by the British authorities because it is a Jewish school, meaning they do not want to teach propaganda from the LGBT left.

00:25:06.000 They're not interested in teaching about the moral equivalence between heterosexual sex and homosexual sex.

00:25:11.000 They're not interested in teaching about the socially approved ideas of transgenderism.

00:25:16.000 They say that God made men and God made women, and there are some people who are born intersex, but that's not the same thing as transgenderism.

00:25:22.000 That school is now being threatened with its license revoked, revocation, license revocation in Britain.

00:25:27.000 Okay, so the same government that's telling you how to raise your child is telling you when your child has to die.

00:25:31.000 Centralized government is such a nightmare.

00:25:33.000 This is why it sort of matters when you see these pieces that seem to be on the wild left, because everything that starts off on the wild left ends up on the mainstream left within about five minutes.

00:25:43.000 The whole goal here is indoctrination of children.

00:25:46.000 And you can see this even insofar as there's another story that's insane.

00:25:51.000 Apparently, according to LifeSite News, transgender activists gathered outside a Rhode Island Catholic church last week—it's a Catholic church, for God's sake—to protest a lecture delivered by pediatrician Michelle Crotella, who views affirming transgenderism in kids as a form of child abuse.

00:26:04.000 Okay, it's a Catholic church.

00:26:06.000 What do you think she's going to say?

00:26:08.000 By the way, I tend to agree with this position.

00:26:11.000 I tend to agree with the position that if my two-year-old came to me and said, Daddy, I'm a girl, and I said to him, you know what, you're right, kid, you're a girl.

00:26:20.000 Ignore all your biology, you're a girl. 1.00

00:26:22.000 That purposefully confusing children is a form of child abuse, I think that there's a solid case to be made for this.

00:26:28.000 Michelle, certainly the idea of generally mutilating, or hormonally mutilating children, I think is a form of child abuse, pretty obviously.

00:26:35.000 In any case, Michelle Crotella,

00:26:37.000 We're good.

00:26:54.000 The Roman Island Catholic explained the law, quote,

00:27:18.000 It's one thing to argue that if you are a parent, you should be allowed to make the terrible decision about forwarding your child's transgender feelings.

00:27:28.000 I said it's a terrible decision because studies show that well over 80% of all children who believe they are transgender when they are children outgrow it by the time they're teenagers.

00:27:35.000 Very often they end up gay or lesbian.

00:27:37.000 But the state has now mandated that everyone be indoctrinated with these ideas.

00:27:43.000 And it's a very short leap from here to the idea that homeschooling itself should be illegal.

00:27:47.000 So a lot of Christians, a lot of Jews have started taking their kids, Muslims too, have started taking their kids out of public schools and educating their children at home to avoid these social leftist strictures.

00:27:57.000 Well, the state is not gonna stand for that.

00:28:00.000 The state is going to say that you are not licensed to do that and your kid is a truant.

00:28:04.000 And then, they will say next, that if your kid does not learn what the state wants your kid to learn, then they will take your kid away from you and give him up to foster care.

00:28:11.000 They'll send him Child Protective Services.

00:28:13.000 I am predicting this right now, okay?

00:28:14.000 You can mark the date.

00:28:15.000 I've been predicting this for months now.

00:28:16.000 You can mark the date.

00:28:17.000 Today's April 25th.

00:28:18.000 Within five years, there will be a serious movement in this country to end homeschooling, simply because everyone on the left believes that homeschooling is a threat to their social values.

00:28:27.000 And the case will be made that you're bringing up kids to be intolerant, that you're bringing up kids to be cruel and nasty.

00:28:35.000 Parental power will shrink as the power of the state grows.

00:28:37.000 So anyway, this woman, Critella, Dr. Critella, she was speaking at the St.

00:28:42.000 Pius V Church in Providence, and 40 LGBT activists showed up outside.

00:28:48.000 And then they started protesting her.

00:28:51.000 It's just astonishing.

00:28:52.000 Again, they're protesting churches.

00:28:53.000 This is why when people on the left say, why do you feel so threatened by all of this?

00:28:58.000 You can do what you want.

00:28:59.000 It's a free country.

00:29:00.000 Go to whatever lefty church you want to go to.

00:29:02.000 Don't go to church at all.

00:29:03.000 I don't care. 0.99

00:29:04.000 Be gay, be lesbian, be transgender. 0.80

00:29:06.000 You're an adult.

00:29:07.000 Your decision.

00:29:08.000 As a religious person, I can think your decisions are sinful.

00:29:11.000 Doesn't matter.

00:29:11.000 It's a free country.

00:29:12.000 You can think I'm an idiot. 0.99

00:29:14.000 But I will tell you that once you start going outside churches and protesting traditional churches, suggesting those traditional churches have to change their ways or face your wrath, you're talking about something deeply disturbing and fascistic in the extreme. 0.98

00:29:28.000 Now in just a second I want to discuss the controversy swirling around Joy Reid over at MSNBC because she is now in serious trouble. 1.00

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00:31:32.000 All righty, so a leading LGBT advocacy group has now rescinded its Straight for Equality in Media award from MSNBC host Joy Reid on Tuesday.

00:31:42.000 Now, it would be easier for me to follow this controversy if Joy Reid had not in fact blocked me on Twitter years ago, but it turns out that Joy Reid

00:31:49.000 We're good to go.

00:32:06.000 I'm not sure.

00:32:24.000 predicate of our sexual freedom society is that whatever floats your boat, which means by necessity certain things do not float your boat, which means that you have to leave people alone if things don't float their boat.

00:32:33.000 But apparently Joy Reid committed some sort of grave sin here, and now she must be cast out like a leper from the leftist group thing. 0.99

00:32:40.000 So Liz Owen, director of communications for PFLAG National, said the group had invited Reid to honor her at their 45th anniversary celebration.

00:32:46.000 Joy Reid's been pro same-sex marriage for years. 1.00

00:32:48.000 So, these

00:33:07.000 Newly uncovered posts were uncovered by Mediaite and she responded that the that she had been hacked that this was all the result of hacking which is real weird this is her big mistake is that she suggested that she that she she came out and she said that

00:33:24.000 That these were fake, right?

00:33:25.000 She made the Anthony Weiner mistake.

00:33:26.000 You're not allowed to make the Anthony Weiner mistake.

00:33:28.000 It's one thing to post a bunch of weird stuff and then apologize for it later, but Joy Reid instead said that she'd been hacked, which led to this entire controversy about whether, in fact, she'd been hacked.

00:33:37.000 The answer is probably not, right?

00:33:39.000 All this stuff had been discovered by looking at the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine.

00:33:43.000 The Wayback Machine captures websites, old websites and old posts, and there's no indicator that the Wayback Machine itself had been hacked.

00:33:51.000 But the point here is simply that the left is so intolerant that no matter how much Joy Reid may believe that she is an ally, she is in fact not an ally, right?

00:34:00.000 She cannot be an ally because she said something that people don't like 15 years ago, 12, 15 years ago, even though she has recanted all of those particular posts.

00:34:09.000 Right, so it's, this is, I think, a really bad, a lot of people on the right are jumping on this and saying Joy Reid should lose her career, Joy Reid should be fired, and listen, I understand the satanic temptation to stomp on Joy Reid's grave, I get it.

00:34:21.000 Like, I understand that there are a bunch of people on the left who say a really nasty thing about the right, and if this were someone on the right, I don't think Joy Reid would be defending them, but I'm gonna say, for the record, that I think that somebody who had positions that they then recanted, and clearly recanted,

00:34:35.000 I don't see why bringing up their old posts and then destroying their career over it is a worthwhile thing, because the truth is you can do this about pretty much anything.

00:34:49.000 Anybody who's had a long career in public is going to have said some stuff that they're embarrassed of.

00:34:54.000 Anybody in public is going to have said some things that they wish they hadn't said.

00:34:58.000 Some of them have changed positions.

00:34:59.000 I've changed some of my positions over the years.

00:35:01.000 There's a column I wrote in 2007 about what I termed traitorous Democrats talking about the Iraq War that I probably wouldn't write now.

00:35:08.000 That was 11 years ago.

00:35:11.000 There's a column I wrote very early in my career about the Israeli-Palestinian issue, in which I suggested transfer as a possibility for Arab populations.

00:35:18.000 I openly recounted that.

00:35:21.000 I think this is true for pretty much everybody in public life, that if you go back far enough, you can find something they said that they no longer believe, and destroying them over that is a really dangerous game.

00:35:28.000 Because if we're going to do that, then people are just going to hide what they believe.

00:35:32.000 What you actually want from your public persona, what you actually want from opinion makers, are their thoughts.

00:35:37.000 You don't want them hiding their thoughts.

00:35:38.000 You don't want them hiding the ball.

00:35:39.000 You want to know what they think.

00:35:41.000 Because that's how we can engage with these ideas.

00:35:43.000 That's how we as a society can call out the bad ideas and garner the good ones.

00:35:47.000 That's the whole goal. 0.94

00:35:49.000 And again, I find the whole attack on Joy Reid to be wildly, wildly silly, particularly from the left.

00:35:57.000 So I'm looking at some of these posts right now. 0.76

00:36:03.000 So, uh, she, she wrote a post called, uh, Charlie Crist is not gay.

00:36:07.000 Uh, she wrote a post, apparently, or this was on her website, uh, it was called Harriet Meyers and the Lesbian Hair Check, talking about Harriet Meyers' lesbian hair.

00:36:15.000 Like, really?

00:36:15.000 That's the kind of stuff that you're gonna ruin her career over?

00:36:18.000 Again, I'm not sure why any of this is particularly homophobic.

00:36:20.000 Again, I'm not sure why any of this is particularly homophobic.

00:36:21.000 Again, I'm not sure why any of this is particularly homophobic.

00:36:24.000 Again, I'm not sure why any of this is particularly homophobic.

00:36:27.000 Again, I'm not sure why any of this is particularly homophobic.

00:36:29.000 Again, I'm not sure why any of this is particularly homophobic.

00:36:31.000 Again, I'm not sure why any of this is particularly homophobic.

00:36:33.000 Again, I'm not sure why any of this is particularly homophobic.

00:36:35.000 Again, I'm not sure why any of this is particularly homophobic.

00:36:36.000 Again, I'm not sure why any of this is particularly homophobic.

00:36:38.000 Again, I'm not sure why any of this is particularly homophobic.

00:36:40.000 Again, I'm not sure why any of this is particularly homophobic.

00:36:41.000 Again, I'm not sure why any of this is particularly homophobic.

00:36:43.000 Again, I'm not sure why any of this is particularly homophobic.

00:36:45.000 Most straight people had a hard time being convinced to watch Brokeback Mountain.

00:36:48.000 I admit that I couldn't go see the movie either, despite my sister's ringing endorsement, because I didn't want to watch the two male characters having sex.

00:36:53.000 Does that make me homophobic? 0.87

00:36:54.000 Probably. 0.95

00:36:55.000 Well, the truth is, it doesn't make you homophobic, because again, being a homophobe just means that you are scared of gay people, or scared of homosexual activity, or presumably that you're bigoted against homosexuals.

00:37:07.000 Not being into the activity does not mean you're homophobic.

00:37:11.000 Again, if that were the case, then gay people would be straight-phobic, because that logic doesn't hold at all.

00:37:15.000 Here's another one of the posts that supposedly has to finish Joy Reid's career. 1.00

00:37:19.000 Some people use the word immoral when they really mean distasteful. 0.85

00:37:22.000 I think a lot of heterosexuals, especially men, find the idea of homosexual sex to be well-gross, and they lump it in with immorality.

00:37:28.000 And then there are the concerns that adult gay men tend to be attracted to very young, post-pubescent types, bringing them into the lifestyle in a way that many people consider to be immoral.

00:37:36.000 So that last sentence is the one that borders on the controversial, right?

00:37:39.000 That last sentence where she says that there are adult gay men who prey on younger men.

00:37:44.000 Yeah, that's the only section here that I find to be, you know, truly, truly controversial.

00:37:48.000 But again, Joy Reid has apologized for all this stuff in the past.

00:37:52.000 As a society we're going to have to be a little bit more forgiving of people, I mean right and left, people who have recanted prior views because otherwise I think you just end up in a position where nobody will give their views openly at all about virtually anything.

00:38:03.000 Okay, so meanwhile the controversy has broken out about President Trump's nominee to fill the VA.

00:38:10.000 So he was nominating Ronny Jackson.

00:38:12.000 Ronny Jackson of course was the White House physician and there are a lot of bad stories that have been breaking about Ronny Jackson.

00:38:17.000 Apparently Ronny Jackson, there's a report that he was drunk on duty at one point,

00:38:22.000 And the Democrats are immediately jumping on this.

00:38:26.000 Here is one Democratic senator unloading on Ronny Jackson yesterday.

00:38:29.000 Well, they fall in three different areas.

00:38:32.000 Improper dispensing of prescription drugs, repeatedly drunk while on duty while traveling, and creating a toxic work environment.

00:38:43.000 By the way, we had 20 military folks and retired military folks tell us these stories.

00:38:49.000 And in the previous administration, we were told of stories where he was repeatedly drunk while on duty, where his main job was to take care of the

00:38:59.000 I told Admiral Jackson just a little while ago

00:39:24.000 I said, what do you need this for?

00:39:26.000 This is a vicious group of people that malign and they do.

00:39:32.000 And I live through it.

00:39:32.000 We all live through it.

00:39:34.000 You people are getting record ratings because of it.

00:39:37.000 So congratulations.

00:39:38.000 But I said, what do you need it for?

00:39:40.000 He's an admiral.

00:39:41.000 He's a great leader.

00:39:43.000 And they question him about every little thing.

00:39:46.000 Okay, so kind of weird that Trump was urging his own nominee to bail out.

00:39:49.000 I will say that the vetting of the nominees has to be better from the White House.

00:39:52.000 You actually have to go back and look at the record.

00:39:54.000 Picking people that Trump personally knows for positions doesn't seem to be working out all that well.

00:39:58.000 And the administration has been getting steadily better.

00:40:00.000 I mean, the staffing at the administration has been getting better.

00:40:02.000 We've gotten rid of a bad VA Secretary. 1.00

00:40:05.000 We've gotten rid of a bad Secretary of State. 1.00

00:40:07.000 We've gotten rid of a national security advisor in favor of a better national security advisor.

00:40:11.000 I think the staff on the whole today is much better than the staff was on the whole a year ago.

00:40:16.000 That said, the kind of fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants vetting of nominees has to stop from the Trump administration.

00:40:21.000 It continues to

00:40:24.000 Promulgate the idea that there is a lot of chaos inside the administration, which unfortunately there is.

00:40:30.000 That said, the media bias on all of this stuff is insane.

00:40:33.000 Trump is not wrong when he says that the media are just wild about everything.

00:40:37.000 Chris Chilesa over at CNN spent an entire segment, an entire segment of TV, analyzing an awkward handshake photo of Donald Trump and Emmanuel Macron, the president of France.

00:40:48.000 Like an entire segment.

00:40:51.000 Here's what it actually looked like.

00:40:52.000 It's so bizarre.

00:40:53.000 So, obviously, lots of people talking about Melania Trump's hat.

00:40:56.000 That's the buzz of the picture.

00:40:58.000 But I just want to point one thing out.

00:41:00.000 People will say, oh, I find the political theatrics fascinating.

00:41:05.000 What is going on here and here?

00:41:08.000 Why is Macron doing the hook'em horns song?

00:41:10.000 Hook'em horns. 1.00

00:41:11.000 It's very, it's either that or the Gene Simmons kiss guitarist thing.

00:41:15.000 But either way, it's super weird.

00:41:18.000 Okay, and what's super weird is that the media are fascinated with presidential handshakes.

00:41:22.000 Yeah, I made fun of them for like five seconds yesterday, but the media spent full-on segments yesterday analyzing the weird dynamics between Trump and Macron as though this has any sort of relevance to anyone.

00:41:33.000 Basically, the media have become TMZ.

00:41:35.000 So there's a movie that's out called I, Tonya, and there's a scene in the movie where there's a guy who was working for a National Enquirer-like publication, and he says that we were staking out Tonya Harding's house and we were covering this thing.

00:41:45.000 In an insane fashion, providing the model for the mainstream media.

00:41:49.000 And he's not wrong.

00:41:50.000 It's a joke in the movie, but it's not a joke, okay?

00:41:52.000 This is covered the same way that you'd cover it on The Soup.

00:41:55.000 This is covered the same exact way that you would cover it if you were watching TMZ, and TMZ were covering this handshake.

00:42:00.000 And it's happening on CNN.

00:42:01.000 And then people wonder why there's significant credibility problems with the media.

00:42:05.000 Speaking of credibility problems with the media, there was a piece that came out from the Washington Post yesterday, and it was a picture of three reporters.

00:42:11.000 It was Ashley Parker, April Ryan, who's the black reporter from the African American News Network, whose name I can't recall, and the third person was Jim Acosta, the insufferable Jim Acosta from CNN.

00:42:24.000 And they're all standing there and doing a hero shot, looking off into the distance.

00:42:28.000 The entire article is about how heroic these members of the media are in the face of the Trump administration.

00:42:32.000 They're not Solzhenitsyn.

00:42:34.000 They're literally getting front page photo spreads in mainstream American newspapers.

00:42:37.000 I'm supposed to believe that these people are victims?

00:42:40.000 The media are so enthralled with themselves over their own behavior under the Trump administration, no wonder Trump is tempted to just spit in their eye on a regular basis.

00:42:49.000 I can't blame him for that.

00:42:50.000 I can blame him for picking people without betting them, but I can't blame him for spitting in the eye of the media because the media really are wild.

00:42:56.000 Okay, time for a thing I like, and then we'll do a thing that I hate.

00:42:59.000 So, first the thing I like.

00:43:01.000 So, yesterday on the plane I had the chance to watch Only the Brave.

00:43:03.000 I really have chances to watch movies only when my wife is working late at the hospital, or when I'm on a plane.

00:43:08.000 So I watched Only the Brave, or at least some of it, on the plane yesterday.

00:43:11.000 It's really good.

00:43:12.000 The movie was first recommended to me, actually, by my friend Dana Perino, and she raved about it.

00:43:17.000 It's worth the rave.

00:43:19.000 It's really solid.

00:43:19.000 Here is a little bit of the trailer from Only the Brave.

00:43:21.000 I worked this blaze near Montana.

00:43:24.000 In the blink of an eye, there's fire everywhere.

00:43:28.000 And then, charging out of these flames, comes this bear on fire.

00:43:34.000 It was the most beautiful and terrible thing I've ever seen.

00:43:41.000 I heard you guys had some slots available.

00:43:44.000 You lost her.

00:43:45.000 We got one slot open.

00:43:47.000 You know what we're training for?

00:43:49.000 Hot shots get to engage the fire directly.

00:43:51.000 We're still team six of firefighters.

00:43:53.000 If you give me a chance, I won't let you down.

00:43:56.000 Sooner or later, the fire's gonna come knocking in our hometown.

00:43:59.000 We've been training for over four years.

00:44:01.000 We've got all our hours, all our qualifications.

00:44:04.000 But until we're certified hot shots, my crew won't even be able to set foot on the line.

00:44:09.000 I told you it wouldn't be easy.

00:44:11.000 You want to talk about it?

00:44:13.000 Okay, so the movie is quite good.

00:44:15.000 It's really effective.

00:44:16.000 I think it's quite moving.

00:44:17.000 So check it out if you haven't had a chance to yet.

00:44:19.000 Check out Only the Brave.

00:44:20.000 Okay, time for a thing that I hate.

00:44:26.000 So yesterday I didn't have time to pay tribute to the Armenian Genocide, simply because we ran out of time on the show, but I want to do it today.

00:44:32.000 So yesterday marked the opening of the Armenian Genocide.

00:44:35.000 The Armenian Genocide was actually a series of genocides, and they were basically religious wars by Muslims against Christians.

00:44:42.000 Okay, let's be real about this.

00:44:43.000 The Armenian Genocide had to do with ethnicity, but it also had a large component to do with religion.

00:44:50.000 On yesterday's date, in 1915, hundreds of Armenians, intellectuals, Christians for the most part, were forcibly deported from the Turkish capital of Constantinople.

00:44:57.000 The number soon escalated into the thousands.

00:44:59.000 Most were eventually murdered.

00:45:01.000 That kicked off the Armenian Genocide, the persecution of Christian Armenians by Muslim young Turks who wanted to cleanse the new country of the troublesome non-co-religionists in preparation for the new regime in Turkey in the aftermath of the collapse of the Ottoman Empire. 0.99

00:45:13.000 By the time the genocide was over, it lasted from 1915 all the way to 1923,

00:45:17.000 Hundreds of thousands of Armenians were dead.

00:45:19.000 Top range estimates put the number at 1.5 million.

00:45:22.000 And there were massive atrocities.

00:45:23.000 We're talking about putting Armenian children on boats and then sinking them in lakes. 1.00

00:45:28.000 We're talking about forced death marches.

00:45:30.000 We're talking about mass shootings.

00:45:31.000 CNN reports, the death toll is in dispute.

00:45:34.000 A photograph from the era documents some mass killings.

00:45:36.000 Some show Ottoman soldiers posing with severed heads, others with them standing amid skulls in the dirt.

00:45:40.000 The victims are reported to have died in mass burnings by drowning, torture, gas, poison, disease, and starvation.

00:45:45.000 Children reported to have been loaded onto boats, taken out to sea, and thrown overboard.

00:45:49.000 And of course, rape was frequently reported.

00:45:51.000 Now, what's amazing is that so many countries still refuse to use the term Armenian Genocide.

00:45:55.000 The United States and Israel among them, both of those countries should immediately use the term Armenian Genocide.

00:46:00.000 It is absurd not to recognize the truth of the Armenian Genocide and not to recognize also that the Armenian Genocide was the predecessor for the Holocaust. 0.71

00:46:08.000 The current dictator of Turkey, who is an Islamist himself, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, a terrorist supporter and a radical Muslim, has threatened multiple foreign countries if they use that.

00:46:17.000 In 2010, Erdogan openly warned he could throw 100,000 Armenian immigrants out of Turkey.

00:46:21.000 He said,

00:46:36.000 When I say that the Armenian Genocide was the predecessor for the Holocaust, there were German staffers. 0.63

00:46:41.000 I mean, the Germans were allied with the Ottomans in World War I. There were German staffers in the army who were present at the happening of the Armenian Genocide.

00:46:50.000 Hitler's confidants, as Shmueli Boteach points out, learned from Turkey's genocidal playbook. 0.90

00:46:54.000 His lead political advisor, Hitler's, 0.91

00:46:55.000 We're good to go!

00:47:17.000 And of course, in one of his speeches, Hitler apparently, this is sort of controversial, but he apparently made reference to the Armenian Genocide.

00:47:24.000 If the world didn't care when the Turks were slaughtering the Armenians, they're not going to care when we go after all of our enemies. 0.95

00:47:29.000 So, it is important to recognize genocides when they are occurring.

00:47:32.000 It is important, particularly in an era of continued religious conflict, to recognize the religious components of the Armenian Genocide as well.

00:47:39.000 Okay, I want to take one second here and analyze a Federalist paper.

00:47:41.000 We missed it this week.

00:47:41.000 So, Federalist 25.

00:47:42.000 We're all the way up to Federalist 25.

00:47:44.000 This one is written by Alexander Hamilton.

00:47:46.000 And in this Federalist paper...

00:47:48.000 Hamilton is still talking about the necessity for common defense.

00:47:51.000 He's still talking about why we ought to have a standing army at the national level.

00:47:55.000 He makes a couple of arguments that are really interesting.

00:47:57.000 So his first argument makes some sense.

00:47:58.000 He says we need a standing army because if somebody attacks us and we don't have a standing army, we're screwed.

00:48:02.000 Okay, that's pretty obvious.

00:48:03.000 But then he makes another argument that I think we'd be welted to take in mind.

00:48:07.000 He says that a national standing army would be better than standing armies on behalf of the state.

00:48:12.000 Why?

00:48:13.000 He says the liberty of the people would be less safe in this state of things than in that in which the national forces were left in the hands of the national government.

00:48:20.000 As far as an army may be considered as a dangerous weapon of power, it had better be in those hands of which the people are most likely to be jealous than in those of which they are least likely to be jealous.

00:48:29.000 For it is a truth which the experience of ages has attested that the people are always most in danger when the means of injuring their rights are in the possession of those of whom they entertain the least suspicion.

00:48:38.000 There's a really deep point, you know, obfuscated by some of the language here, but what Hamilton is actually saying is that you should distrust the national government.

00:48:47.000 He's saying the reason that you can trust the national government to have a standing army is because you distrust the national government to do the right thing, which means that if they do the wrong thing, people will leave the army or people in the states will rise up and resist them.

00:48:58.000 Furthermore, he says, people are always in the most danger when the means of injuring their rights are in the hands of friends.

00:49:04.000 This is 100% true.

00:49:05.000 It's one of the reasons why I think even my own political viewpoint has changed over the years.

00:49:09.000 I was much more kind of traditionally conservative and less libertarian when I was 19 than I am now.

00:49:15.000 One of the reasons is because when you're a young conservative growing up under the Bush administration, you figure, okay, I like George W. Bush.

00:49:21.000 I don't mind that the government has more power.

00:49:22.000 And then Obama becomes president. 0.99

00:49:23.000 You say, well, this kind of sucks. 0.97

00:49:25.000 I don't like that the government has this much power. 0.93

00:49:26.000 And then the question becomes, okay, when you have a Republican again, are you going to go back to the idea that power is only a matter of who uses it?

00:49:32.000 Or are you going to say that there's an inherent risk to the national government having the kind of power that can be wielded by your political enemies?

00:49:39.000 And therefore we should minimize that amount of power.

00:49:41.000 That's what Hamilton is really saying underneath the surface there.

00:49:43.000 Okay, so we'll be back here tomorrow with more.

00:49:46.000 Again, it's been just an honor to be here at Liberty University.

00:49:48.000 What an incredible institution it is.

00:49:49.000 The kids here are just amazing and I can't speak highly enough about what the students here are doing for their community and for the world.

00:49:56.000 Just a terrific, terrific university.

00:49:58.000 I will be back here tomorrow.

00:49:59.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - April 25, 2018

Kanye Believe It? | Ep. 525

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