The Ben Shapiro Show - Raging Waters | Ep. 1239

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00:01:24.000 So, the world is now on edge as we await the verdict in the Derek Chauvin trial.

00:01:30.000 The jury is out.

00:01:32.000 The jury was issued closing statements by the prosecution and by the defense.

00:01:35.000 Then there was a prosecution rebuttal yesterday.

00:01:37.000 And then the jury were sequestered.

00:01:39.000 Now, they should have been sequestered all along.

00:01:41.000 The fact that they weren't sequestered is a real problem because it turns out that this is the most publicized, high-profile criminal trial in the United States probably since OJ Simpson.

00:01:50.000 This thing has taken up enormous sums of time and energy.

00:01:56.000 It's created protests and riots in the street for the last year.

00:02:00.000 And now, only now, did the judge decide it was time to sequester the jury.

00:02:04.000 And that was only after everyone on the jury knows the base and gross truth here, which is that if they don't convict, then their name is going to be on the front page of a paper probably two weeks from now, and then their life will be ruined.

00:02:17.000 If you are on that jury, I have a lot of sympathy for you, frankly, because it takes an enormous amount of bravery to simply look at the evidence and the facts in the case and come to a logical conclusion.

00:02:26.000 And there are a couple of logical conclusions here.

00:02:27.000 I mean, I could certainly see a conviction of Derek Chauvin for manslaughter.

00:02:31.000 I think it's almost impossible not to see reasonable doubt.

00:02:35.000 When it comes to the second and third degree murder charges, manslaughter is a lower standard because it suggests reckless disregard for the life of another.

00:02:42.000 And so you can make the case that even if Chauvin originally wasn't doing anything particularly bad, once Floyd went unconscious, he should have gotten off of him.

00:02:49.000 That's an easier case than the notion that he was committing a felony assault against George Floyd on purpose.

00:02:57.000 Or the case that he caused George Floyd's death, not by denying him care after he was already unconscious and staying on top of him, but through his actions alone.

00:03:05.000 Frankly, I find it extraordinarily difficult to believe that the simple pressure of Derek Chauvin's knee on George Floyd's back, not on his neck, on his back, because this was again testified to by prosecution witnesses, Is that the body cam footage showed that Chauvin's knee was not in fact in position to cut off either George Floyd's airways or the oxygen flow to his brain.

00:03:24.000 If that was the case, then you are suggesting a 140-pound man with 40 pounds of gear on him kneeling on the back of George Floyd for about nine minutes was enough to kill the 6'5", 240-pound George Floyd Without any sort of intervening circumstances.

00:03:39.000 And people who are testifying on behalf of the prosecution basically said that, which is quite crazy to me.

00:03:44.000 The idea that the drug-fueled behavior of Floyd for the 16 minutes prior to the 9 minutes that we've all seen on tape, that had nothing to do with anything.

00:03:55.000 That George Floyd having enough fentanyl in him to kill a horse had nothing to do with anything.

00:03:58.000 The fact that he had 75% arterial blockage That had nothing to do with anything.

00:04:03.000 That's the prosecution's case.

00:04:04.000 That's very difficult to believe.

00:04:05.000 Again, the prosecution had a heavy burden here because they have to get to beyond a reasonable doubt, right?

00:04:09.000 It is not just that they have to prove by a preponderance of the evidence, which is the standard in civil court, you know, like a majority of the evidence, you think probably it's Chauvin's fault.

00:04:18.000 It has to be beyond a reasonable doubt that this is Chauvin's fault.

00:04:20.000 And it has to be shown a couple of things.

00:04:22.000 One, that he did not act as a reasonable police officer should have.

00:04:25.000 And two, that he's the actual causative factor in George Floyd's death.

00:04:28.000 That he was a substantial factor in George Floyd's death.

00:04:32.000 There's a great analysis over legal insurrection, which has been doing excellent work covering the day-to-day on this case.

00:04:38.000 And one of the analysts over there was writing about sort of the differences in terms of the causation arguments being put forward by the prosecution and the defense.

00:04:45.000 The prosecution is essentially arguing that this case is akin to a man is on a subway platform and a mugger comes up to him and pops out of the shadows and scares the guy.

00:04:58.000 And the guy topples backward onto the subway tracks and then is run over.

00:05:01.000 Is the mugger at fault for that?

00:05:03.000 Okay, so that would be the substantial factor, right?

00:05:04.000 Without the mugger there, without the mugger having scared the guy, he would be fine.

00:05:08.000 And what the defense is arguing is that this is more akin to somebody, like a normal person on the street, encountering a police officer, and the police officer trying to arrest the person, and the person dropping dead of a heart attack.

00:05:21.000 Was the police officer a substantial factor in that person's death?

00:05:24.000 The defense is arguing, well, really not, because it was the underlying causes that were the greatest factor in the death.

00:05:31.000 If the arrest merely sent up the heart rate like it would for any normal person, and this was a particularly susceptible suspect, And that removes the causative factor, because that's factor number one.

00:05:40.000 The reasonable police officer stuff is all about whether Chauvin did something that is so outside the realm of what a normal police officer would do or reasonable police officer would do that he deserves to get 10 years, 15 years, 20 years in jail for it.

00:05:54.000 And there again, they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Chauvin acted with a certain level of recklessness, if you want manslaughter, or that he acted with a direct intent to felony assault George Floyd, which, again, is a super hard case.

00:06:06.000 As Eric Nelson, the defense attorney, kept pointing out, Chauvin knows the body cams are on.

00:06:10.000 He knows he's being filmed.

00:06:11.000 The notion that Chauvin is just committing this felony assault in front of people because he desperately wants to kill George Floyd or because he doesn't care if George Floyd dies is sort of counterintuitive, considering that Chauvin was a many-year serving police officer on the force.

00:06:25.000 This was not his first rodeo, exactly.

00:06:27.000 But the prosecution laid out its final case yesterday.

00:06:29.000 The defense laid out its final case yesterday.

00:06:31.000 The prosecutor's case was very much rooted in emotion.

00:06:34.000 And I have to say, I think that the judge in this particular case, Judge Cahill, The way that he ruled on a variety of issues presents serious issues for appeal.

00:06:43.000 We're going to get to Maxine Waters in a second because that is a serious issue for appeal. 0.82

00:06:46.000 But there are many situations here where it seems like there are serious issues for appeal.

00:06:49.000 Number one, third degree murder should not have been on the docket here.

00:06:52.000 Third degree murder does not apply.

00:06:54.000 Third degree depraved heart murder is not the right charge here because depraved heart murder requires that your malice be directed at others, your recklessness be directed at others, not at other.

00:07:04.000 This is first-year evidence in law school.

00:07:06.000 You do not allow evidence as a judge that has nothing to do with whether the case is true or not. 0.91

00:07:08.000 going to kill somebody. 0.88

00:07:09.000 That's depraved heart murder. 0.86

00:07:10.000 That charge didn't apply.

00:07:11.000 Cahill reinstated it.

00:07:12.000 He shouldn't have allowed a full week of witness testimony that was entirely non-probative.

00:07:17.000 This is first year evidence in law school.

00:07:19.000 You do not allow evidence as a judge that has nothing to do with whether the case is true or not.

00:07:24.000 All it has to do with is how bad you felt about the case.

00:07:27.000 All that is is prejudicial.

00:07:28.000 And when you see on TV, people say that certain information is prejudicial to the jury.

00:07:33.000 What they mean is that it is not relevant or pertinent to the guilt or innocence of a particular party in the case.

00:07:39.000 Just as it would have been prejudicial to simply talk about George Floyd's criminal background without any reference to the case because it didn't have anything to do with the case.

00:07:47.000 It is absolutely prejudicial to have witness testimony on how upset they personally were and how they couldn't sleep because they saw George Floyd die.

00:07:53.000 That's true for presumably tens of millions of people who saw the tape of George Floyd dying in the first place.

00:07:59.000 So none of that should have been allowed in court.

00:08:00.000 That's going to be an issue on appeal.

00:08:02.000 There will be issues on appeal, for sure, with regard to the treatment of the jury by outside forces.

00:08:09.000 It's my contention that this case never should have been held in Minneapolis in the first place.

00:08:12.000 This is like a perfect textbook case of when you transfer venue.

00:08:16.000 Minneapolis is the site, it is the epicenter of racial conflicts in the country right now.

00:08:20.000 It is the epicenter of all attention in the country right now.

00:08:23.000 And it is made up of a jury The jurors are members of the community who are going to have to deal with all of that fallout, which of course makes it very difficult to have a fair and impartial jury of your peers if you are Derek Chauvin.

00:08:35.000 So there can be a lot of issues on appeal here.

00:08:37.000 So the prosecutor laid out his case and what I was going to say about the prosecutor's case is that it was very emotionally laden.

00:08:43.000 Most of the prosecutor's case was not about laying out.

00:08:46.000 He went on for a couple of hours.

00:08:47.000 Most of his case was not about laying out the fact by fact moment by moment timeline of what happened with Chauvin and Floyd because that actually doesn't cut in favor of the prosecution. Most of it was about the basic idea that if you just watch the tape, you know exactly what happened. And that, of course, is not the whole story, as the defense said. So here is the prosecutor concluding with, I don't know, something from Dr. Seuss's The Grinch.

00:09:11.000 Here we go. You were told, for example, that Mr. Floyd died, that Mr. Floyd died because his heart was too big.

00:09:25.000 You heard that testimony.

00:09:27.000 And now having seen all the evidence, having heard all the evidence, you know the truth.

00:09:32.000 And the truth of the matter is that the reason George Floyd is dead is because Mr. Shulman's heart was too small.

00:09:40.000 OK, I mean, that's very emotional and it's going to make a lot of tweets light up with joy.

00:09:46.000 But is that really a value to the jury?

00:09:49.000 I mean, again, the case for recklessness, the case for outright malice is pretty low here.

00:09:55.000 The case for felony assault, I still think is kind of low.

00:09:58.000 The case for recklessness, he might be able to make on a manslaughter charge, but this sort of, you know, emotionally laden stuff, I don't know.

00:10:05.000 It doesn't say anything probative to me.

00:10:07.000 What the prosecutor did do when he was discussing the charges, he put up a chart of the charges against Chauvin.

00:10:12.000 Explaining the elements of the various crimes.

00:10:14.000 This chart actually is useful to understand what exactly is happening in the case.

00:10:18.000 So, murder in the second degree.

00:10:20.000 There are four elements.

00:10:21.000 One, the death of George Floyd has to be proven.

00:10:23.000 Okay, well, he's dead, so that would be proven.

00:10:26.000 The second element is that the defendant's actions were a substantial causal factor in Mr. Floyd's death.

00:10:31.000 The fact that other causes contributed to the death does not relieve the defendant of criminal liability.

00:10:35.000 Okay, so this is where I was talking about the disagreement on causation.

00:10:38.000 The defense is going to argue substantial causal factor means that it has to be the chief causal factor, right?

00:10:44.000 There can be other things that are involved.

00:10:46.000 Right, just like in the case that I was mentioning before, where the robber jumps out, the mugger jumps out at you on the subway platform, it's the subway that kills you if you fall off and the subway runs you over, but the mugger is the substantial chief factor in your death, because it is his fault that you got frightened and fell onto the subway tracks.

00:11:02.000 Okay, well, the prosecution is arguing something different, which is that if you are just any factor, almost, in the death of somebody, then this means that you are guilty.

00:11:10.000 I think that's...

00:11:11.000 kind of unsustainable on the legal basis. The third element of murder in the second degree is the defendant at the time of causing the death of George Floyd was committing or attempting to commit the felony offense of assault in the third degree saying the defendant assaulted George Floyd intentionally applying unlawful force to Floyd without his consent resulting in bodily harm and the defendant inflicted substantial bodily harm on George Floyd.

00:11:29.000 Both of those elements are in doubt.

00:11:31.000 Because, again, there is no actual autopsy result showing that there was damage to George Floyd's trachea, for example, or that he was deprived of oxygen to his brain specifically because of the so-called suppression hole that was being used on George Floyd.

00:11:45.000 And the notion that he was using a form of suppression hold that was not allowed by Minneapolis PD is not true.

00:11:50.000 It was in the Minneapolis PD playbook.

00:11:52.000 Final element, the Defendants Act took place on or about May 25th, 2020 in Hennepin County.

00:11:58.000 Okay, so murder in the second degree, I think it's very hard to meet all those standards.

00:12:01.000 Murder in the third degree, again, has five elements.

00:12:03.000 Two of them are the same, right?

00:12:05.000 You have to prove that he died.

00:12:06.000 You have to prove when he died.

00:12:06.000 Okay, but then, and the substantial causal factor element is the same as well.

00:12:12.000 Murder in the third degree says the defendant caused the death of George Floyd by an intentional act that was eminently dangerous to other persons, but it wasn't eminently dangerous to other persons.

00:12:19.000 That's the entire thing, right?

00:12:20.000 So this charge does not apply at all.

00:12:21.000 I think he can't prove second degree.

00:12:23.000 I think third degree just does not apply.

00:12:25.000 Then you get to manslaughter in the second degree, and this one is a lot looser.

00:12:28.000 Here, you just have to show that the defendant caused the death of George Floyd by culpable negligence, whereby the defendant created an unreasonable risk and consciously took a chance of causing death or great bodily harm.

00:12:38.000 And here, you don't have to intend that your conduct be harmful.

00:12:40.000 All you have to do is be reckless.

00:12:42.000 And this is where the defense was focused in on the crowd, right?

00:12:44.000 Their defense to this was, Chauvin was distracted by the crowd.

00:12:47.000 He didn't know what was going on under his knee because, again, he's not looking down at George Floyd.

00:12:51.000 You can see in the tape, he's yelling at the crowd.

00:12:53.000 The crowd is yelling at him.

00:12:54.000 He actually reaches for his mace and all of this.

00:12:56.000 So that's the prosecution's case.

00:12:58.000 I think that it is very, very weak when it comes to the murder charges.

00:13:01.000 I think that it is more arguable when it comes to the manslaughter charge.

00:13:04.000 Meanwhile, Eric Nelson, the defense attorney, he made his case.

00:13:08.000 He said that Floyd's death, beyond anything else, it just was not Chauvin's fault, just on a root factual level.

00:13:16.000 Chauvin was not the substantial factor in the death of George Floyd.

00:13:22.000 And again, this was always the strongest case on behalf of the defense.

00:13:26.000 And frankly, it's a very plausible case that basically ends the case, in my view.

00:13:31.000 Again, you don't have to believe this.

00:13:33.000 You just have to, is this reasonable doubt?

00:13:35.000 Sounds like reasonable doubt to me.

00:13:37.000 Again, I think that the base medical fact pattern here, which is that George Floyd was high as a kite, had three times the deadly amount of fentanyl in his system, had a 75% arterial blockage.

00:13:46.000 It's extremely difficult for me to believe that that is not a level of reasonable doubt that applies to the causation factor in all of the charges.

00:13:54.000 I could see a jury going the other way on manslaughter, but they really would have to ignore this.

00:13:57.000 Here's Eric Nelson talking about this.

00:13:59.000 This is the defense attorney for Derek Chauvin.

00:14:02.000 You have to be convinced that the defendant's actions caused the death of Mr. Floyd.

00:14:11.000 And throughout the course of this trial, the state has tried And called numerous witnesses to try to convince you that asphyxiation is the singular cause of death.

00:14:28.000 The singular cause of death.

00:14:31.000 And why is that?

00:14:32.000 It's because actions that happened before Mr. Floyd was arrested, that had nothing to do with Officer Chauvin's activities, And again, one of the things that the prosecution never really proved is that if George Floyd was already saying, I can't breathe, if he was already in the midst of a medical issue,

00:15:00.000 Then Chauvin was not the chief causative factor in his death.

00:15:03.000 If you fell down on the subway tracks and then the mugger shouted at you, at that point it's not even the mugger's fault if you get run over by the train.

00:15:08.000 It's sort of the case that the defense was making here.

00:15:10.000 Now, here is the amazing thing about this.

00:15:12.000 I'm trying to present this with as much nuance and detail as I can in a short period of time, and we've gone through a lot of the details in the case in a way that you haven't seen in much of the mainstream media.

00:15:20.000 The establishment media do not want to present you the details of the case.

00:15:23.000 The establishment media think it is a sin for you to know what the defense has been saying in this case, because the establishment media are rooting for riots.

00:15:29.000 I cannot see any other reason why they're presenting the case in the light they're presenting it.

00:15:33.000 They're dedicated to the narrative that America is deeply racist, and that if Derek Chauvin is acquitted, it's because of deep American racism, and they are justifying and excusing rioting and looting.

00:15:41.000 And anybody who justifies and excuses rioting and looting, they will simply poo-poo and pretend they're not doing it.

00:15:47.000 It's an amazingly Anti-American citizen thing to do.

00:15:52.000 You're damaging actual Americans who have a right to expect a level of peace in their communities.

00:15:59.000 You're damaging them by your establishment media coverage.

00:16:01.000 The establishment media is, the way that they have ratcheted up the tension here, the way that they have fostered the notion that if the jury goes the wrong way here, the jury is therefore racist.

00:16:10.000 And that if an individual juror sees fit to find reasonable doubt in these cases, it must be that that juror's life will be ruined.

00:16:16.000 I mean, honest to God, it will take a person of extraordinary bravery To actually examine the facts in this case.

00:16:22.000 Which is why my prediction is that the jury will hang on the murder charges and probably come out in favor of manslaughter.

00:16:29.000 Just my personal opinion, could go the other way.

00:16:32.000 But we're gonna find out in short order.

00:16:34.000 But it's the media coverage that is really the bigger issue here.

00:16:36.000 Because no matter how this trial goes, and yes, I understand that a man's life is at stake, and a man's life was at stake a year ago when George Floyd died, but now Derek Chauvin's future is at stake, whether he's gonna spend the next couple decades in jail, which is a major issue, obviously.

00:16:48.000 When it comes to the broader national issue, the broader national issue is that the media have a stake in fomenting division in the country that is going to end with more violence and more looting and more rioting unless they get their way.

00:16:59.000 It is a form of political blackmail that the media are now engaged in with the American people.

00:17:03.000 They're engaged in a game of political chicken, and they're using other people's businesses, other people's livelihoods, other people's very lives as tools in this game, and it's quite disgusting.

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00:18:25.000 Okay, so when I say that the media are fomenting all of this, that the media are treating this case as a foregone conclusion or what should be a foregone conclusion just so that people lose their minds if it goes the other way.

00:18:41.000 They're being perfectly obvious about this.

00:18:42.000 They're not even hiding the ball.

00:18:43.000 They're not even trying to hide the ball.

00:18:46.000 So, for example, here is CNN's senior legal analyst, Laura Coates, on Twitter.

00:18:50.000 She tweeted out, quote, Defense begins the closing by defining reasonable doubt, not with why Derek Chauvin is innocent.

00:18:56.000 Think about that.

00:18:58.000 So in other words, the defense is admitting that Derek Chauvin is guilty.

00:19:01.000 So no sane jury could find that Derek Chauvin is not guilty.

00:19:05.000 Now, here's the thing.

00:19:06.000 The senior legal analyst at CNN, I don't know why she's the senior legal analyst if she doesn't know the simple fact that defining the standard of reasonable doubt is what defense lawyers do in every single case of which I am aware.

00:19:18.000 In a criminal trial, you always start with defining reasonable doubt so the jury understands what standard the prosecutors have to prove.

00:19:26.000 If you're trying to argue innocence, then it becomes a preponderance of the evidence case.

00:19:29.000 Then it's just, okay, is my case better than his case?

00:19:31.000 But the prosecution has to prove beyond a standard of reasonable doubt.

00:19:34.000 And yet there you have CNN's senior legal analyst suggesting that it is some sort of sin for the defense to point out the standard.

00:19:40.000 This means, of course, that the client is guilty.

00:19:44.000 Meanwhile, you have Don Lemon on CNN, your objective news reporter.

00:19:47.000 And boy, what a bleep show Don Lemon is.

00:19:49.000 My goodness.

00:19:50.000 Don Lemon was never great, but the evolution of Don Lemon from Basically, Anderson Cooper into Joy Reid has been astonishing to watch over the past few years.

00:20:00.000 He is just an openly partisan hack at this point.

00:20:02.000 He is not even, I mean, he, he, frankly, he makes Joy Reid look like a piker sometimes. 0.99

00:20:06.000 Here was Don Lemon yesterday suggesting that this was straight up murder.

00:20:10.000 We all know exactly what can happen when a black man or woman's encounter with police goes wrong.

00:20:17.000 Every black person in this country understands the anger, the grief, the helpless feeling in the pit of your stomach when it happens again and again.

00:20:26.000 And now it's all coming to a head in that jury room in Minneapolis where prosecutors today called on jurors to believe what they saw with their own eyes, saying this wasn't policing, this was murder.

00:20:40.000 And of course, Don Lemon isn't just reporting what the prosecutors are saying, saying what they saw with their own eyes.

00:20:45.000 You saw it.

00:20:46.000 You saw it.

00:20:47.000 Forget that offense.

00:20:48.000 There's no need to look at the tape.

00:20:49.000 Sounds like Chelsea Handler here, right? 0.99

00:20:50.000 Saying that you don't need to present that offense when we all saw the tape.

00:20:53.000 Except that you do.

00:20:56.000 And when Don Lemon suggests that every police encounter between black Americans and police officers ends with the black person being mistreated, hurt, murdered by the police, I just, there's no statistical evidence to support this.

00:21:08.000 I don't know how many times I have to say this.

00:21:10.000 Anecdotal evidence is not statistical evidence.

00:21:12.000 Provide the data.

00:21:14.000 Provide the data demonstrating that this is not due to the offenses committed by the suspect.

00:21:18.000 It is due to police racism.

00:21:21.000 Explain, like, let's have that argument.

00:21:22.000 You want to hear that argument?

00:21:23.000 Let's talk about specific police departments and we can break down, crime by crime, what happened in each case.

00:21:27.000 But they don't want to do that.

00:21:28.000 The whole idea here is that you take a data point, even a data point like this one that is awkward and doesn't really fit the narrative of a racist murder, and then you turn it into a racist murder for purposes of suggesting that black people are properly suspicious of all of white America because white America is shot through with white supremacy, the only cure for which is to provide unending revision of the American bargain by the federal government.

00:21:51.000 That's really what's at stake here.

00:21:53.000 This is all just a lever for change.

00:21:55.000 And I don't mean change of the good sort.

00:21:56.000 I mean a complete revision of the American bargain between individual rights and the body politic.

00:22:01.000 And the media are fomenting this.

00:22:03.000 Again, I can't emphasize this enough.

00:22:05.000 The media are actively fomenting this.

00:22:07.000 Maxine Waters, who has been promoting violence, mass violence in the streets, for as long as she's been in public politics.

00:22:14.000 I'm going all the way back to 1992.

00:22:16.000 This is a piece from the New York Times, circa 1992, talking about the Rodney King riots.

00:22:25.000 And it's talking about Maxine Waters here.

00:22:27.000 It says, until three weeks ago, the freshman Democratic congresswoman was little known outside the Washington Beltway and among those who follow California politics are black politicians.

00:22:35.000 But since the acquittal of four white police officers and the beating of Rodney King set off the worst civil unrest this century, Mrs. Waters has had a lot to say, and not everybody likes it.

00:22:43.000 More than any other political leader representing L.A., more even than Mayor Tom Bradley, Mrs. Waters seemed to be all over the airwaves, acting as a voice of the disenfranchised after unrest broke out.

00:22:52.000 Going all the way back, by the way, the media were very warm toward the idea that riots were simply the voice of the dispossessed.

00:22:57.000 She scared some people and angered others by focusing on justifying rather than condemning the violent reaction to the verdict.

00:23:05.000 And this is typical Maxine Waters.

00:23:08.000 I mean, Maxine Waters has, she called the L.A. 0.96

00:23:11.000 riots, in which, by the way, South Central Los Angeles, which was largely black, was burned to the ground in large part, in which Korean business owners were targeted.

00:23:18.000 She called that an L.A.

00:23:19.000 uprising.

00:23:20.000 An L.A.

00:23:21.000 uprising.

00:23:23.000 She says, I said in 101 different ways violence is not right, that I don't condone violence, that people can't endanger their own or others' lives.

00:23:29.000 What I didn't do is use the airwaves to call people hoodlums and thugs for burning down their own communities.

00:23:33.000 It only makes them madder when you call them hoodlums and thugs, as the president did.

00:23:37.000 Oh, so you're not justifying what they're doing, you're just saying they're not hoodlums and thugs when they burn down their own neighborhood. 0.93

00:23:42.000 Got it.

00:23:43.000 And she's been doing this her entire career.

00:23:44.000 This is nothing new for Maxine Waters.

00:23:46.000 You'll remember just a couple of years ago when Maxine Waters said that Trump administration members should be actively, physically confronted whenever they go out in public.

00:23:54.000 Here's Maxine Waters just a couple of years ago.

00:23:57.000 You see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd.

00:24:09.000 And you push back on them.

00:24:11.000 And you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere.

00:24:17.000 And the left has not only tolerated this, they've celebrated this.

00:24:19.000 For a while, Matine Waters was considered persona non grata inside the Democratic Party because she was deeply corrupt. 1.00

00:24:24.000 She was on the Financial Services Committee, and there were serious questions about how the Financial Services Committee was directing resources to banks in which her husband was involved.

00:24:32.000 And she was consistently considered one of the most corrupt members of Congress. 1.00

00:24:37.000 But, during the Trump era, she became anti-Maxine again. 0.92

00:24:40.000 She was the person who was going to be promoted by the media as the person who could speak truth to power. 0.99

00:24:44.000 Trump didn't spring out of a vacuum, guys.

00:24:46.000 I know that everybody wants to think, on the left, that Trump killed American politics.

00:24:50.000 Trump was a symptom.

00:24:51.000 He was the coroner.

00:24:51.000 He came along and he noticed the body of American politics with the knife still in it.

00:24:55.000 And then he said, oh, this body has been stabbed.

00:24:58.000 Didn't heal it, but he certainly didn't start it.

00:25:00.000 Maxine Waters pre-existed Trump as a prominent person in American politics, as an elected official, by some almost 30 years. 0.98

00:25:10.000 And yet Maxine Waters has not only been tolerated, she's been celebrated, she's been elevated inside the Democratic Party for most of that time with brief periods of respite.

00:25:18.000 Okay, so Maxine Waters, of course, the other day, she broke curfew. 0.97

00:25:22.000 She traveled from Washington, D.C.

00:25:24.000 to Minnesota, right, to Minneapolis, to be there, presumably to intimidate the jury, because why the hell else would you be in Minneapolis?

00:25:31.000 There were protests in Washington, D.C., too.

00:25:32.000 You could have just protested out there.

00:25:34.000 She flew into Minneapolis, just as Al Sharpton has now flown into Minneapolis.

00:25:38.000 A race baiter who himself has been involved in the incitement of riots.

00:25:41.000 And Maxine Waters then told Black Lives Matter that if they didn't get what they wanted, not just a conviction on manslaughter, she said there has to be a conviction on murder charges.

00:25:49.000 And then she even suggested there should be a conviction on a charge of first degree murder, which is not even charged in this case.

00:25:54.000 She said that if they don't get what they want, then they should, quote unquote, get more confrontational.

00:25:59.000 Well, I don't know what more confrontational means in the context of a city that nearly burned down about a year ago.

00:26:04.000 So here's Maxine Waters telling BLM just the other day what she wants to happen if she doesn't get her way, if the jury doesn't go her way, which is like pure, simple jury intimidation.

00:26:14.000 We've got to fight for justice.

00:26:16.000 But I am very hopeful and I hope that we're going to get verdicts that say guilty, guilty, guilty.

00:26:26.000 And if we don't, we cannot go away.

00:26:28.000 What should protesters do?

00:26:30.000 Well, we've got to stay on the street.

00:26:33.000 And we've got to get more active.

00:26:35.000 We've got to get more confrontational.

00:26:37.000 We've got to make sure that they know that we mean business.

00:26:42.000 So all of this culminated yesterday with Judge Cahill, who again is a former staffer.

00:26:46.000 He was appointed by Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty originally as a Republican, but he's a former staffer for Amy Klobuchar, right?

00:26:51.000 So the guy is not some sort of crazed right-wing conservative.

00:26:53.000 And as I've mentioned, the judge in this case has made a series of decisions, which I think set up the possibility of a serious appeal, even if Chauvin is convicted.

00:27:01.000 Well, the judge yesterday was asked by Nelson for a mistrial on the basis of Waters' comments.

00:27:06.000 And the judge said, well, I'm not going to grant a mistrial, but certainly this is an issue for appeal.

00:27:10.000 I wish elected officials would stop talking about this case, especially in a manner that is disrespectful to the rule of law and to the judicial branch in our function.

00:27:20.000 I think if they want to give their opinions, they should do so in a respectful and in a manner that is consistent with their oath to the constitution to respect a co-equal branch of government.

00:27:32.000 Their failure to do so I think is abhorrent, but I don't think it has prejudiced us with additional material that would prejudice history.

00:27:40.000 Okay, so the entire left went insane.

00:27:42.000 How dare the judge say this?

00:27:44.000 How da- No one on the left.

00:27:46.000 I can't find a single prominent figure on the left who condemned Maxine Waters for this sort of language.

00:27:50.000 So the same exact people who said that Donald Trump, who said that people should peacefully Protest what was going on on January 6th at the Capitol building, and then a few hundred droogs decided it would be a wonderful idea to break into the Capitol building and threaten lawmakers. 0.97

00:28:03.000 The same exact people like Maxine Waters, who suggested that Donald Trump was guilty of incitement of an insurrection, are out there actively defending Maxine Waters today, or at the very least, poo-pooing it.

00:28:13.000 So spare me your hysterics about Donald Trump's fraught language.

00:28:17.000 I didn't like his language.

00:28:19.000 But he said peaceful.

00:28:20.000 Maxine Waters has never said that sort of stuff.

00:28:23.000 Maxine Waters is one of the worst actors in Congress, and you guys will never disown your own radicals.

00:28:28.000 It's fairly impressive, truly, for the Democratic Party.

00:28:31.000 You have to admire the solidarity.

00:28:33.000 I've been told over and over by friends of mine who are Democrats, look at these Republicans and how they have all these people in the Republican Party who are wild and crazy, and they won't condemn anybody.

00:28:42.000 And I just think to myself, well, pretty much every time Trump said something that I thought was bad, I condemned him publicly.

00:28:48.000 And many other people condemned him publicly, too.

00:28:50.000 When there were candidates who were so thorough-going bad that I thought they should not be in Congress, I helped run them out of Congress, like Steve King in Iowa.

00:28:58.000 Or like Roy Moore in Alabama.

00:28:58.000 Right?

00:29:01.000 When was the last time you saw the Democrats expel anyone?

00:29:03.000 When was the last time the Democrats looked at Maxine Waters and were like, you know what?

00:29:06.000 We don't like this.

00:29:07.000 Can you find anybody to go on record about it?

00:29:10.000 Whenever somebody on the Democratic side of the aisle is incredibly radical or foments violence, even if you're somebody who participates in rioting and looting, I mean, first of all, Kamala Harris will contribute to your bailout fund in Minnesota.

00:29:20.000 But beyond that...

00:29:22.000 If you are a radical inside the Democratic Party circles, the vision of you is not the way it is in the Republican circles.

00:29:28.000 If you're in Republican circles and somebody is radical and crazy and spouting conspiracy theories, there's a general sense of embarrassment.

00:29:34.000 I'm like, that person has bad ideas.

00:29:36.000 If you're in Democratic circles and you're Bernie Sanders, you're a wild-eyed socialist, or if you're AOC, you've never had a good idea in your entire life, but you're very, very loud.

00:29:44.000 If you are a Democrat like Maxine Waters, who's fomented violence, Then the entire Democratic Party will rally to your cause and declare that the real problem with you is not that you have bad ideas.

00:29:54.000 It's not.

00:29:54.000 Your ideas are great.

00:29:56.000 The real problem with you is that you just have the pure naivete of a small innocent child.

00:30:00.000 That's really the reason you're such a bad person is because you're actually super innocent and you don't understand that this isn't how politics works.

00:30:06.000 You gotta let the adults work it out, sweetheart.

00:30:07.000 But the reality is that you are just so innocent and so pure.

00:30:11.000 You're not the worst of us.

00:30:11.000 You're the best of us.

00:30:12.000 You're the best of us.

00:30:14.000 And that's the way the Democratic Party treats their own radicals inside the House. 0.97

00:30:18.000 So, Kevin McCarthy, the House Minority Leader, he slammed Waters.

00:30:23.000 He says, Waters sees value in violence, which obviously is true.

00:30:26.000 Here is the House Minority Leader, and then we'll get to the Democratic and media reaction, which is to pretend that Maxine Waters actually didn't say what she just said and you watched her say.

00:30:33.000 Maxine Waters believes there's value in violence.

00:30:36.000 This is the first time she's done something like this.

00:30:39.000 Remember what she said for, in the past administration, for people to get in their faces, to challenge everyone.

00:30:46.000 And now what she has said has even put doubt into a jury.

00:30:50.000 You had a judge announce that it was wrong.

00:30:53.000 I think this takes action, especially when she has a pattern of this behavior.

00:30:58.000 That, of course, is exactly true. 0.60

00:30:59.000 But what did Nancy Pelosi, the House Speaker, have to say about Maxine Waters?

00:31:03.000 What did she have to say?

00:31:04.000 Remember, this is the same Nancy Pelosi who watered down a resolution to condemn Ilhan Omar's antisemitism into a resolution condemning all the bad things, and then took a trip with Ilhan Omar to demonstrate solidarity.

00:31:14.000 Now, she was asked if Waters should apologize.

00:31:16.000 Quote, Oh, really?

00:31:18.000 Is that what she meant?

00:31:19.000 Because how would they get more confrontational?

00:31:20.000 in the manner of the civil rights movement. Oh really? Is that what she meant? Because how would they get more confrontational? How? I mean, seems like BLM did $2 billion of damage across the course of the last summer.

00:31:32.000 How do you get more confrontational?

00:31:34.000 Was that the manner of the civil rights movement?

00:31:35.000 Because I feel like Nancy Pelosi should know better since she was alive for it.

00:31:38.000 She says, I myself think we should take our lead from the George Floyd family.

00:31:42.000 They've handled this with great dignity and no ambiguity or lack of misinterpretation by the other side.

00:31:47.000 No, I don't think she should apologize.

00:31:50.000 So, no apology required by Nancy Pelosi or requested by Nancy Pelosi.

00:31:54.000 Jen Psaki over at the White House.

00:31:56.000 He's asked about Joe Biden's view on Maxine Waters' comments.

00:31:58.000 And here's Jen Psaki completely dodging the question. 1.00

00:32:01.000 Does the president agree with what she said about getting more confrontational?

00:32:06.000 Well, I can speak to the president, too.

00:32:08.000 He has been very clear that he recognizes the issue of police violence against people of color, communities of color, is one of great anguish.

00:32:17.000 And it's exhausting and quite emotional at times.

00:32:22.000 As you know, he met with the Floyd family last year and has been closely following the trial, as we've been talking about, and is committed to undoing this longstanding systemic problem.

00:32:31.000 Okay, so, um, if you recall, the original question was, what do you think of Maxine Waters' comments?

00:32:36.000 Not, can you quote Jonathan Capehart's bad column in the Washington Post about exhaustion and meeting with George Floyd's family and a bunch of read-out talking points.

00:32:44.000 All he had to say was, Maxine Waters shouldn't have said that.

00:32:46.000 It's bad that she said that.

00:32:47.000 We abhor all violence and Maxine Waters' contribution to raising the temperature is not useful.

00:32:52.000 That's all she has to say.

00:32:53.000 She can't say that, because the Democratic Party is very much in favor of this inside-outside game, whereby you get people in the streets actively participating in rioting and looting and anti-police activity.

00:33:02.000 By the way, I know it's not a national story, because again, national stories are just stories that back the media's establishment narrative.

00:33:09.000 Hey, I know it's not a national story, but somebody did ambush a Minneapolis National Guard person the other day.

00:33:13.000 But that's not a national story, guys.

00:33:15.000 Not a national story at all.

00:33:17.000 The same day, by the way, I believe that Maxine Waters made that comment.

00:33:19.000 Doesn't mean they incited it.

00:33:21.000 Doesn't mean that she's responsible for that.

00:33:22.000 It does mean that she's not helping, for sure.

00:33:25.000 But don't worry, the media are there to defend Maxine Waters.

00:33:28.000 Remember, Donald Trump is solely and completely responsible for the acts of January 6th.

00:33:31.000 But Maxine Waters, who's been actively fomenting violence since the moment she set foot in Congress, She's never responsible for anything that comes out of her mouth. 0.99

00:33:39.000 In fact, the stuff you heard her say, she didn't actually say.

00:33:41.000 Here's Don Lemon saying she wasn't inciting violence.

00:33:43.000 I take this at face value because Don Lemon is an objective news source.

00:33:47.000 Do you really think Maxine Waters is calling for violence?

00:33:52.000 Maxine Waters is not calling for violence.

00:33:54.000 Everyone knows that.

00:33:56.000 She makes a lot of people uncomfortable, especially a lot of men, and quite frankly, especially a lot of white men, because she puts them in her place. 1.00

00:34:03.000 She tells you, shut up. 0.99

00:34:04.000 Respect this person. 1.00

00:34:06.000 Don't talk to me that way.

00:34:07.000 And she gives it to you like it is.

00:34:10.000 Now, that said, Do I think what she said was constructive?

00:34:16.000 Absolutely not.

00:34:18.000 I love it.

00:34:18.000 All she speaks is the truth.

00:34:20.000 All she says are true things when she's not being a corrupt windbag from California who brings home the bacon to her husband's banks. 0.95

00:34:27.000 All she says are true, wonderful, incredible things. 0.95

00:34:31.000 She's anti-vaccine. 0.84

00:34:32.000 Now, do I think that was super constructive? 0.97

00:34:33.000 No, but she's unbelievable, and if you don't like her, it's because you're a white man.

00:34:37.000 That's the only reason that you wouldn't like Maxine Waters going to the middle of a trial zone and standing like next to the courthouse, basically, and saying, if they don't give you what you want, then you should get super confrontational, like more confrontational than you've been in the past, in a city that nearly burned down a year ago.

00:34:52.000 Don Lemon, objective journalist.

00:34:53.000 These people, they want the conflict.

00:34:56.000 They want the conflict.

00:34:57.000 They think the conflict is good.

00:34:59.000 They think that the conflict makes the country a better place.

00:35:01.000 I have a question.

00:35:02.000 Since the Black Lives Matter movement began, what in America has gotten better? 1.00

00:35:07.000 Can you name a thing?

00:35:08.000 I just want one.

00:35:09.000 Name one thing that has gotten better since the Black Lives Matter movement began.

00:35:13.000 Has it gotten better for black people in terms of violence in their cities? 0.98

00:35:15.000 Absolutely not. 0.99

00:35:16.000 It's got significantly worse.

00:35:17.000 Has it gotten better for black people in terms of inequality, which is the supposed main concern of BLM?

00:35:22.000 No, it has not.

00:35:24.000 Has it gotten better in terms of race relations in the country with all of these posturing white left wingers in suburban areas kneeling on tape in front of black people?

00:35:34.000 Has that made race relations in America significantly better?

00:35:37.000 Can you feel America getting healthier?

00:35:40.000 Do you think that black people are more optimistic about race relations or less?

00:35:43.000 How about white people?

00:35:45.000 Is a single thing better than it was in terms of race relations in the United States than it was in say 2009 when Barack Obama first took office?

00:35:52.000 The answer by every available metric is no.

00:35:55.000 The answer by every available metric is no.

00:35:58.000 And yet the media are fomenting this.

00:35:59.000 They're pushing it because no matter the casualty list on the other side, no matter the damage done, all that matters is the utopia they see in their addled brains.

00:36:09.000 That's all that matters.

00:36:10.000 And if they have to twist the data, if they have to twist the narrative in order to get there, they will.

00:36:14.000 They don't care.

00:36:16.000 CNN did this all day yesterday defending Maxine Waters.

00:36:18.000 All day.

00:36:20.000 The same people who say Marjorie Taylor Greene is the biggest issue inside the Republican caucus.

00:36:23.000 This backbencher from Georgia who created a caucus for Anglo-Saxon cultural defense that had no members.

00:36:31.000 But that was the biggest issue in America.

00:36:33.000 You've got an active congresswoman who's been promoting rioting and violence literally her entire career, doing it again the other day in the middle of a trial, so bad that the judge, again, a person who staffed with Amy Klobuchar, The judge said this could be a mistrial issue. 0.97

00:36:49.000 And the Democrats are like, no, she's wonderful.

00:36:50.000 It's great.

00:36:51.000 And the media are right there with them.

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00:38:43.000 The ongoing defensive waters by the media.

00:38:46.000 It is consistent.

00:38:46.000 Yamiche Alcindor, who's not a journalist, she's an activist for PBS, she tweeted out, don't worry, Maxine Waters didn't threaten violence.

00:38:53.000 Eric Nelson is now using Representative Maxine Waters, saying that protesters should, quote, get more active and more confrontational if Derek Chauvin isn't convicted as a reason for a mistrial to be declared.

00:39:01.000 He's claiming she threatened violence.

00:39:03.000 Fact check.

00:39:03.000 Waters did not threaten violence.

00:39:04.000 Weird.

00:39:05.000 Because what she said was way more violent than anything that Donald Trump said on January 6th.

00:39:08.000 Weird.

00:39:09.000 I don't remember Yamiche Alcindor feeling the same way.

00:39:12.000 Here's the thing. 0.91

00:39:13.000 Cowards are going to allow this to happen. 0.98

00:39:15.000 Cowards are going to allow the rioting and the looting to happen. 0.94

00:39:18.000 As I've said, the most important thing that we are watching right now is the simple real-time change in expectations in the United States.

00:39:25.000 There's now an expectation.

00:39:26.000 An expectation.

00:39:27.000 You have it.

00:39:28.000 I have it.

00:39:28.000 We all have it.

00:39:29.000 There's an expectation that any time there is a An incident between a white police officer and a person of color that is caught on tape, no matter the surrounding circumstances, no matter whether the suspect is guilty of the crime or not, no matter whether the suspect resisted arrest, that it will result in riots and looting.

00:39:46.000 There's a full-scale 100% expectation.

00:39:48.000 Sometimes, on rare occasions, maybe the expectation is disappointed, but rarely.

00:39:53.000 Very rarely.

00:39:54.000 This means that we have now ingrained bigotry with regard to a certain percentage of the population that we believe is now justified in whatever they do without data, without even evidence in particular cases.

00:40:05.000 That is a very bad thing.

00:40:07.000 And you're seeing our politicians take advantage of this, presumably for political gain.

00:40:11.000 So you see Brooklyn Center's mayor saying, it's not safe to drive in Minneapolis while black. 0.96

00:40:15.000 Not safe to drive in Minneapolis while black at all. 0.93

00:40:18.000 Okay, due to what?

00:40:20.000 Due to what?

00:40:20.000 Due to one incident, presumably he's talking about the Daunte Wright incident, in which a suspect attempted to flee the police, there was an active warrant out for him, and then the police officer, quite obviously, made a horrible mistake and now will be tried for manslaughter.

00:40:34.000 And now it's not safe for any black person to drive anywhere in Minneapolis, according to the Brooklyn Center Mayor. 0.98

00:40:38.000 You only say this kind of crap because you're interested in the political gain. 0.99

00:40:40.000 Here's the Brooklyn Center Mayor saying it. 0.99

00:40:43.000 This is something that People in my community have been grappling with for a very long time. 0.98

00:40:50.000 It's not safe to drive in Minnesota while you're black. 1.00

00:40:54.000 I mean, the fact of the matter is, there's so many of us who drive, you know, and if we see police behind us, we're afraid, you know, we're trembling, and that is a kind of terror that No citizen of the United States should ever have to face.

00:41:13.000 Okay, anytime you want to talk about the terror faced by citizens who are having to face down rioting and looting that have been plaguing your city, you can do that too.

00:41:19.000 Or you could talk about the terror that faces ordinary black Americans in most of America's major cities because the police are just not in those parts of town.

00:41:26.000 You could talk about that.

00:41:27.000 Because your chances as a black American of getting shot by somebody who's not a police officer are way higher than your chances of being shot unarmed by a police officer.

00:41:35.000 I mean, by several orders of magnitude. 0.85

00:41:38.000 Hey, Minneapolis's mayor, who's a joke, right? 0.96

00:41:40.000 This doofus, you'll remember him from such wonderful tape as, I'm going to go down to the George Floyd rally and get shouted at for being a white racist, even though I'm trying to just demonstrate my fealty to your overblown cause. 0.95

00:41:55.000 I mean, this guy's a tool bag of extraordinary proportions. 0.95

00:41:58.000 Here's Minneapolis's mayor saying that Floyd, no matter what the jury finds, Floyd is killed at the hands of the police.

00:42:02.000 And then you say you're not justifying rioting.

00:42:04.000 You're literally saying that the system is stacked against the prosecution of a murderer because of race.

00:42:08.000 But don't riot guys, the system's gonna work on your behalf.

00:42:12.000 The sheer moral cowardice of this is pretty hard to exaggerate here.

00:42:17.000 Here's Minneapolis's mayor.

00:42:18.000 Regardless of the outcome of this trial, regardless of the decision made by the jury, there is one true reality, which is that George Floyd was killed at the hands of police.

00:42:33.000 I'll see you next time.

00:42:34.000 Oh, is that the one true reality?

00:42:36.000 Because I noticed that that was what was in dispute in the criminal trial.

00:42:39.000 That's the mayor of Minneapolis.

00:42:40.000 How can you say that there's not a mistrial here?

00:42:41.000 I don't understand.

00:42:42.000 How can you say that the jury has not been prejudiced by the fact that the mayor of the city is saying that the cops killed George Floyd?

00:42:50.000 Maxine Waters is outside saying you need to get more confrontational with people.

00:42:53.000 More than last year when you burned two billion dollars worth of stuff and killed a bunch of people.

00:42:57.000 You need to get more confrontational than that if you don't get what you want.

00:43:00.000 How in the world was this trial taking place in Minneapolis in the first place?

00:43:03.000 Again, I'm not even saying that you couldn't make the case that Chauvin should be convicted on manslaughter.

00:43:08.000 I think that one is a 50-50 coin flip.

00:43:10.000 But I do think that there is no possible way to read this as anything other than grounds for mistrial when you have the mayor of the damned city is out there saying that no matter what the jury finds, they are wrong if they don't find like I say. 0.99

00:43:24.000 These politicians are craven. 1.00

00:43:26.000 They are cowards. 1.00

00:43:26.000 They do not give one good God bleep about the facts in any particular case. 1.00

00:43:31.000 They don't care about the lives at stake.

00:43:32.000 They don't care about the policy.

00:43:34.000 His city has seen an exponential rise in murder and crime over the course of the last year.

00:43:38.000 The corner where George Floyd died has become an epicenter of crime according to the New York Times.

00:43:42.000 That guy is the mayor of that city.

00:43:44.000 And his chief concern is continuing to run down the police on the basis of a conflicting set of fact patterns.

00:43:50.000 It's unreal.

00:43:52.000 There's only one thing that can justify this sort of behavior, and that is, in pursuit of utopia, everybody for the left is either a tool or an obstacle.

00:44:00.000 Derek Chauvin is a tool and an obstacle for these people.

00:44:03.000 Due process is an obstacle for these folks.

00:44:06.000 Individual rights are an obstacle, and Maxine Waters is a tool. 1.00

00:44:09.000 Therefore, Maxine Waters will be defended, and due process will be thrown out the window, and you're just supposed to eat it. 1.00

00:44:15.000 Guess what?

00:44:16.000 The American public at some point is going to stand up on their hind legs and say enough of all this.

00:44:19.000 Because it is horrifyingly bad for the country.

00:44:22.000 Alrighty, we'll be back here later today with an additional hour of The Ben Shapiro Show.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - April 20, 2021

Raging Waters | Ep. 1239

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