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00:01:30.000So obviously on Friday, the Supreme Court drops a historic decision, the biggest decision that it's made in nigh on 50 years.
00:01:36.000Basically saying that Roe versus Wade is now overturned and the issue of abortion returns to the state level where a wide variety of states will now actually attempt a wide variety of legislative solutions on the question of when life ought to be protected in the womb.
00:01:50.000Now, again, prior to Roe, this was the status of all law in the United States.
00:01:54.000You had different laws in California than you had in Alabama.
00:01:58.000But Roe stopped that conversation with a bunch of justices irrigating to themselves the power to determine what standards should be set nationally on abortion.
00:02:06.000They did it without any pretext in the Constitution.
00:02:08.000They didn't even bother to try and really make an argument as to why the Constitution mandated that the Supreme Court irrigate that power to itself.
00:02:15.000In Planned Parenthood versus Casey, the court backed away from the standards set up in Roe a little bit, but again, Suggested that the court was going to end national controversy by somehow magically irrigating to itself power that it did not have under the Constitution of the United States.
00:02:28.000And finally, the Supreme Court, after 50 years, did the right thing and reversed Roe v. Wade, 6-3.
00:02:32.000Now, really, it was 5-4 with Justice Roberts.
00:02:36.000It was 5-3-1 with Justice Roberts sort of in the middle, but joining in the decision to greenlight the Mississippi statute that would have banned abortion.
00:02:44.000At 15 weeks and beyond, which, by the way, is extremely, extremely late.
00:02:49.000Today, there's a lot of talk about how this is going to radically reshift the state of play in the United States politically, how this is going to turn into a hot button political issue all across the United States in federal elections, how 2022 will be decided on abortion.
00:03:25.000They tried to push something a little bit earlier this year.
00:03:28.000They tried to push a measure earlier this year.
00:03:31.000That was called the Women's Health Protection Act.
00:03:33.000It was unconstitutional because it turns out that Congress does not actually have the power to regulate criminal activity within states.
00:03:39.000They have to have some sort of connection to federal policy.
00:03:43.000You've seen the Congress try to end around this in certain ways, like they'll say that if it affects interstate commerce, then you can't perform this sort of abortion or you can perform this sort of abortion.
00:03:52.000The Supreme Court is likely to strike those sorts of laws down.
00:03:55.000This also happens to be true for pro-lifers.
00:03:57.000So if pro-lifers say we want a congressional piece of legislation that bars abortion after week six, for example, in the United States, broadly speaking, there is a very good shot the Supreme Court, led by conservatives, says that there is no constitutional basis to do this.
00:04:09.000Because again, the Congress of the United States is meant to legislate on a federal level.
00:04:13.000State legislatures are meant to legislate on a state level, which means that the only federal solution to the abortion issue would theoretically be a constitutional amendment, which requires an enormous amount of buy-in, not only in Congress, but also in three-fifths So you would have to have an actual constitutional amendment.
00:04:29.000The pro-choicers don't have the power to do that.
00:04:30.000The pro-lifers right now don't have the power to do that, which means that practically speaking, this is going to break down very quickly into a state's issue.
00:04:38.000New York is going to allow abortion until you actually die of old age.
00:04:42.000It's going to turn into abortion Disneyland over in California.
00:04:44.000And meanwhile, in Mississippi, it's going to be like, you can't get one.
00:04:47.000And that is how policy is done in the United States of America.
00:04:51.000If you think that that is going to motivate votes for Democrats, that Democrats deeply in California and New York, they're going to be deeply exercised about the abortion issue.
00:05:00.000In Mississippi, you got another thing coming.
00:05:01.000And the reason I know this is the case is because in May of 2021, Texas passed a law that law effectively ended abortion in the state of Texas.
00:05:09.000This has been true for over a year in the state of Texas.
00:05:13.000And up until five minutes ago, no one thought that this was going to affect the 2022 election.
00:05:17.000It's not even affecting Beto O'Rourke in the Texas gubernatorial election.
00:05:21.000So the reality is that what's now going to happen is that localities are going to decide this very differently.
00:05:26.000The people who are most passionate about this on both sides are already in their respective states.
00:05:30.000You're not getting a bunch of passionate pro-lifers in New York and California deciding policy.
00:05:33.000You're not getting a bunch of passionate pro-choicers in Mississippi deciding policy.
00:05:37.000And in the purple states, the abortion policy is probably going to end up somewhere in the middle.
00:05:41.000Florida's abortion law is probably not going to look like Mississippi's abortion law.
00:05:47.000States that are somewhere in the middle are going to end up with legislation that looks somewhere in the middle, which means that, believe it or not, right now the temperature is super high because whenever there's a shift in the status quo ante, what this means is that everybody panics and everybody freaks out.
00:06:00.000But the way this is going to boil down practically and politically is that it's going to settle down into a state law issue, and then like every other state law issue, it won't be a federal issue.
00:06:08.000If you're going to yell about it at the national level, but it really is not going to make an enormous difference in terms of our elections going forward.
00:06:15.000One of the reasons you're seeing outsized outrage from Democrats today.
00:06:19.000Everybody who has an ounce of legal acumen understands that what I'm saying is true.
00:06:23.000That congressional legislation, either pro-life or pro-choice, is going to be extremely limited in what it can do here.
00:06:28.000And that means that the battles are all going to be had at the state legislative level.
00:06:32.000And it also means that the people who are most animated about this are already polarized in their various states.
00:06:37.000Red state people are mostly in the red states.
00:06:38.000Blue state people are mostly in the blue states.
00:06:40.000The biggest impact of this is probably going to be a continued polarization between red and blue.
00:06:44.000People are going to vote with their feet.
00:06:45.000You're going to see more liberal people stay in New York and Connecticut and New Jersey and Massachusetts.
00:06:49.000And you're going to see more conservative people stay in places in the South or move from North to South.
00:06:54.000And you're going to see people who are pro-choice in the South move to the North or Move to California.
00:07:00.000That continuing polarization is going to maintain.
00:07:04.000But the reason that the left is fighting Maddox is they want to win 2022 based on this.
00:07:08.000This is one of the things that they are hoping.
00:07:09.000They're hoping this is going to reanimate their extraordinarily moribund political hopes for 2022 and 2024 since the president is not alive anymore and his policies have been counterproductive on literally every issue.
00:07:21.000So don't be deceived by the amount of heat and light that's being generated right now.
00:07:26.000Within three weeks, I promise you, within three weeks, a lot of this is going to have died down.
00:07:29.000Within six months, it certainly is going to have died down.
00:07:32.000Because again, everybody who wants an abortion in New York State is going to be able to get an abortion.
00:07:35.000Everybody who wants one in California is going to be able to get one.
00:07:37.000Now, as a pro-lifer, does that make me happy?
00:07:39.000No, it doesn't, because I think that human rights violations are human rights violations.
00:07:42.000I think that the murder of children in the womb at eight months or nine months, which is exactly what they're doing in places like California and New York legally, I think that that is, forget about a hundred years from now, I think today, people are going to look back at that and they're going to say that this is a barbarity.
00:08:01.000So I'm unhappy with that, but that is also the state of play and that's the way it's going to be.
00:08:06.000So the notion that people are going to get wildly animated, go to the polls in 2022, throw the bums out and give Democrats a majority.
00:08:12.000No, and as we'll see, Democrats are struggling for an actual strategy to deal with the fact that now people in the various states are going to actually get to vote on these issues.
00:08:20.000Well, we begin today with exactly the outrage that you would expect from the left.
00:08:26.000The left is completely outraged about this.
00:08:28.000We are talking screaming to the heavens, or below.
00:08:31.000We're talking about people who are just freaking out, losing their minds.
00:08:34.000One of the videos going around, this I think encapsulates the response of much of the left, which is just a rage cry of horror at the simple fact that this issue has now been returned to the states.
00:08:46.000The amount of ignorance and lies that are being pervaded by the left on this particular issue, truly insane.
00:08:50.000One, they keep saying that the Supreme Court just outlawed abortion.
00:08:52.000The Supreme Court did not outlaw abortion.
00:08:54.000The Supreme Court delegated it back to the states.
00:09:02.000You're seeing the left just tell sheer lies.
00:09:04.000You'll see a meme going around about how These states are going to bar people from having removals of ectopic pregnancies, or if you've had a miscarriage and you have to have some sort of procedure to get the miscarried fetus removed from the uterus.
00:09:17.000This is going to count as an abortion?
00:09:24.000Because they have to lie about this because, again, the truth is that once you start talking about the moral abomination that is abortion, your arguments start to look a lot less popular.
00:09:32.000The fact they even have to have these arguments is what's making the left so angry today.
00:09:35.000They don't want to have these arguments because it turns out, as we'll talk about in a second, the people who are truly extreme on this issue, like truly, truly morally extreme on this issue, are members of the left.
00:09:43.000So instead, it's rage cries to heaven.
00:09:44.000So here is one TikTok liberal, I think, encapsulating the entire reaction of the media, Democratic Party and corporate America today.
00:10:15.000Speaking of our greatest policy makers, you have celebrity class coming out and being very upset.
00:10:19.000So Olivia Rodrigo, who I will admit I had not heard of until the last five minutes because I'm not a teeny bopper.
00:10:24.000Olivia Rodrigo was with another person named Lily Allen.
00:10:28.000And I will admit that I had not heard of Lily Allen either.
00:10:31.000In fact, I was mixing her up with Lily Tomlin when I was looking this up.
00:10:34.000But apparently they are both people who dress like 17 year old teeny boppers and prance around While breathing heavily into microphones, recording songs that do not have capital letters in them.
00:10:44.000If you look at Olivia Rodrigo's song...
00:10:49.000Cummings, all capital letters are forbidden.
00:10:51.000It's like favorite crime, no capital F, no favorite C. Good for you.
00:10:55.000No capital G. U is spelled letter U and four is the number four.
00:10:59.000So, brilliant expositors on the state of American law and the existential issue of when human life begins, Olivia Rodrigo and Lily Allen, they go to a concert where they prance around in two pieces and talk about how abortion is really, really, really, really important and also F those justices, F them.
00:11:15.000Yes, we have great thinkers like Samuel Alito on the one side, and we have Olivia Rodrigo on the other.
00:11:19.000This song goes out to the justices, Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch.
00:11:30.000Oh wow, Lily Allen's flipping people off.
00:11:41.000So they're singing, the song is F you.
00:11:46.000Well, I mean, slow clap for the heroism involved in advocating for the killing of the unborn en masse by singing in front of people for money.
00:11:58.000Frankly, I'm not going to lose any sleep over Olivia Rodrigo and her genius co-stars like Lily Allen being very, very upset with the Supreme Court of the United States, because I've never thought of them before until, like, this clip came into my inbox last night.
00:12:11.000But there are a lot of other reasons to lose sleep, including the fact that I have small kids, and that means that they're getting me up, like, all hours of the night.
00:12:17.000This means I need a mattress that's gonna be just the best, because when I'm on that mattress, I had best be asleep, because I ain't gonna get any extra time on that mattress.
00:13:25.000She was on The View, the repository of all human stupidity.
00:13:28.000And she actually made the argument that we definitely 100% need abortion because she has Down syndrome family members, which sounds horrifically eugenic and also pretty evil.
00:13:39.000Like, there's some members of my family who I'm not super fond of.
00:13:42.000I also have never made the public argument that they should probably have been killed in the womb.
00:14:13.000It is very difficult in Florida to get services.
00:14:20.000Yeah, that argument doesn't come out of your mouth, Anna, the way that you think that it does.
00:14:23.000I have a brother, and he has Down syndrome.
00:14:26.000Man, it would be easier if he were dead.
00:14:28.000Yeah, that doesn't sound quite as good, I think, out of your face as it did when it was in your head.
00:14:33.000Anyway, we have Martha Raddatz in ABC News lashing out at all of this.
00:14:36.000Again, the media is just a wing of the Democratic Party, which if you didn't believe me, I mean, one of the leading expositors of abortion is a lady named Kate Smith.
00:14:43.000She used to be a reporter for CBS News.
00:14:45.000I mean, she was literally a frontline, quote-unquote, objective news reporter, and now she works for a pro-abortion group because this is the media en masse.
00:14:52.000Here's Martha Raddatz at ABC News lashing out.
00:14:55.000On Friday morning, women in this country, like they have for nearly 50 years, woke up with a constitutional right to abortion, a right enshrined by the Supreme Court's 1973 decision in Roe v. Wade and reaffirmed again and again.
00:15:23.000The whole point of the case is that it is not a fundamental right.
00:15:27.000I love how the entire media, they're taking their lead.
00:15:32.000As you'll see from the Democratic Party, right?
00:15:33.000The Democratic Party is making the argument that a fundamental right existed and then it didn't exist.
00:15:38.000Okay, but by that logic, by that same exact logic, there was a fundamental right in the United States for states to segregate their trolley cars.
00:15:45.000And then that right was stripped in Brown v. Board.
00:15:47.000That is not the way any of this works.
00:15:48.000Either it's in the Constitution or it's not in the Constitution.
00:16:23.000It's not that abortion is something sad, rare, but legal, right?
00:16:27.000Instead, what it is supposed to be is a sacrament.
00:16:30.000It is an active good because every abortion is a statement.
00:16:33.000That females will not be put under the heel of human biology.
00:16:37.000That human biology runs counter to women's aspirations, and therefore abortion is necessary, deeply necessary, in order to free women of the evils of the reality of human biology.
00:16:48.000This is why the pro-abortion left will treat pregnancy as an impediment, and childbearing and childrearing as a burden.
00:16:54.000It's why they use this sort of language.
00:16:55.000By the way, I don't think most human beings resonate to you.
00:17:00.000But for the left, these things are active bads.
00:17:03.000And the reason that they are active bads is because the feminist movement, since particularly the 1950s and 60s, starting with Simone de Beauvoir and moving forward through Betty Friedan...
00:17:11.000...has basically considered motherhood to be a bad thing.
00:17:13.000They have said that the chief obstacle to human equality is that women have had to bear children.
00:18:27.000It is she who defines herself by reclaiming nature for herself in her affectivity.
00:18:32.000The only reason, according to Simone de Boivier, that women were actually becoming mothers and wives is because of cultural indoctrination, and that had to stop.
00:18:40.000So you can see why abortion is so wildly important to the left.
00:18:43.000It underlies the entire obliteration of the sex distinction between male and female, which is supposed to be an impediment to human happiness, according to the left.
00:18:49.000So this is why they're really, really, really angry.
00:18:52.000MSNBC's Tiffany Cross, she continued along these lines.
00:18:54.000She says that, you know, what happened here was four men and a handmaiden.
00:18:58.000Because Amy Coney Barrett's now a handmaiden.
00:19:01.000But when I say good feministing, I think what people fail to understand is that first wave feminism would argue that it's actually quite sexist to label Amy Coney Barrett, a mother of seven and a woman who is on the Supreme Court, a handmaiden.
00:19:13.000But according to the second and third wave feminists, she is a handmaiden because she's been indoctrinated.
00:19:17.000She's like, it's the same way that the left treats a conservative black person or a conservative Jew.
00:19:22.000Anybody who is a member of an identified minority by the left who does not side with the left is a traitor.
00:19:29.000It's somebody who's been indoctrinated by the system and is in fact a handmaiden.
00:19:32.000So there's perfect sincerity when Tiffany Cross says this over at MSNBC, no matter how vile it is.
00:19:37.000Today, for the first time in 49 years, American women are waking up with less rights than we had yesterday after the Supreme Court struck down Roe v. Wade.
00:19:45.000Now, people across the country have taken to the streets protesting this move.
00:19:49.000The majority of Americans did not want the court to overturn Roe v. Wade.
00:19:57.000But four men who will never bear children and one handmaiden decided for an entire country that their Christian doctrine is the only way.
00:20:07.000Okay, their Christian doctrine is the only... No, that's not what they decided.
00:20:10.000If they decided their Christian doctrine was the only way they would have barred abortion explicitly by encoding pro-life positions in the 14th Amendment.
00:20:56.000For all the people who are upset about this decision, who feel that fundamental rights have been stripped from them, I have some sympathy for some of these people because I think that they have been wildly misinformed.
00:21:06.000I think they've been wildly misinformed and lied to about the nature of what human happiness constitutes.
00:21:10.000But for members of the media, I have no sympathy at all because these are people who are supposed to be covering the news objectively and straight, and they are not.
00:21:21.000If RBG had retired, well, While Barack Obama was president, they wouldn't have had this problem.
00:21:27.000So they sainted RBG, and it's RBG's decision to hold on, thinking Hillary Clinton was going to win the 2016 election that probably ended with the striking down of Roe v. Wade.
00:22:43.000Well, if your god is not RBG or government, then one thing you're going to want to celebrate this year is July 4th, where we recognize the independence of the American people from oppressive tyranny by the government.
00:22:53.000There are a couple of things you need for July 4th.
00:24:00.000Meanwhile, you have people like the NBC panel was laughing at Peggy Noonan.
00:24:04.000Peggy Noonan was suggesting on NBC that maybe we can start to have some sort of coming together around what's best for women.
00:24:10.000And of course, this is laughable because we all know what's best for women, which is for them to abort their babies en masse.
00:24:16.000You know what the Republican Party should do now?
00:24:19.000It should use this victory, if you see it that way, to change itself and become a party that helps women change its reputation, become a party that helps women and children become responsible and supportive.
00:24:38.000She's making an actual liberal case and they're getting angry at her.
00:24:41.000She's saying we need more child support and more government spending and they're laughing at her because, again, they don't care about that.
00:24:48.000One of the arguments you hear from the left all the time is, well, if you care so much about these babies, why not more social spending?
00:25:45.000Which is madness, considering you have the left actually advocating on behalf of eugenic abortion, which seems a lot more Hitlerian to me than saying that babies should not be killed in the womb.
00:25:56.000It doesn't matter if it's somebody who comes along like a Hitler and becomes popular, or somebody who gets elected, or even a coup.
00:26:05.000Because in Spain in the 1930s, part of the atmosphere of making way for a military coup was that women got independence for the first time, they could own their own property.
00:26:18.000There were a lot of gender emancipation.
00:26:21.000So every time these strongmen come along, they are the agents of taking those rights away and reversing the emancipation of women in every way.
00:26:57.000It was raw power when the Supreme Court seized this issue in the first place.
00:26:59.000It is not raw power when the Supreme Court turns it back to elected legislatures across the country.
00:27:05.000As soon as Amy Coney Barrett comes onto the court and John Roberts is no longer determinative of anything, and let's be clear, his concurrence today really shows that he is now kind of constitutionally irrelevant to the majority of the court, but as soon as there stopped being any doubt about what you were going to get,
00:27:28.000The court could have done a whole bunch of things, some of which are just optics and appearances, some of which are genuine efforts to say we're going to pump the brakes.
00:27:39.000We're not going to make it look like this is an enterprise that is about raw power.
00:27:47.000It's not about raw power, it's about there were votes on the Supreme Court to actually go back to the text of the Constitution.
00:27:53.000But as I say, I've been saying it all show, I've been saying it for years.
00:27:56.000The argument on behalf of abortion is never clearly constructed because the argument on behalf of abortion is that deeper feminist argument, which is that the distinctions between men and women ought to be obliterated on behalf of equality and abortion is a key tool in that.
00:28:08.000That is the actual argument that they want to make.
00:28:10.000And this requires you, that argument requires you to forcibly ignore the evidence of your own eyes, which is that babies exist in the womb.
00:28:17.000Which brings us to the picture of the day.
00:28:20.000This picture, I believe, was featured in the Washington Post.
00:28:23.000It was a picture of a woman who has to be at least six months pregnant by the size of her stomach, by the size of her belly, and pasted across her belly is the slogan, this is not yet a human.
00:29:20.000That interest has to be completely ignored.
00:29:21.000We have to pretend it simply doesn't exist.
00:29:23.000You have to look at the evidence of a pregnant woman and pretend that what's in that uterus is absolutely meaningless, has no countervailing interest, that all of us were not at one time inside the uterus of another human being.
00:29:32.000We have to pretend all of that stuff away.
00:29:35.000And when the left is forced to confront that reality, this is why they're yelling at the sky today.
00:29:45.000Okay, so Democrats are hoping that this is going to pay off for them, electorally speaking.
00:29:51.000There's a whole article in the Washington Post today titled, Democrats seize on abortion ruling in midterms as Republicans tread carefully.
00:29:57.000Democrats across the country are seizing on the Supreme Court ruling overturning Roe versus Wade, with state and federal candidates seeking to turn anger about the decision into support at the ballot box, even as Republicans aim to keep attention on rising prices in crime less than five months before the midterms.
00:30:10.000This, of course, was led by a president.
00:30:11.000Of course they're trying to use a board.
00:30:13.000By the way, they control the House, they control the Senate, they control the presidency.
00:30:17.000Question, they controlled the House, the Senate, and the presidency during some of the term of Barack Obama as well.
00:30:22.000And they controlled the Supreme Court for virtually all of my lifetime.
00:30:26.000Why is it that during that time you didn't use your electoral branches, not the Supreme Court, why didn't you use the electoral branches to pass a bunch of laws or a constitutional amendment enshrining Roe?
00:30:35.000And the answer is you didn't have the support.
00:30:38.000Nor can Congress even do this sort of thing.
00:30:40.000So now they're just attempting to lie to the American people and say that if you elect more Democrats, we will go back to status quo and to disregard Roe.
00:30:58.000The constitutional right did not exist.
00:31:01.000Overruling a precedent does not mean that there was a right and then the right went away.
00:31:04.000It means that the right didn't exist in the first place and it was misinterpreted by the Supreme Court, which is exactly what the Supreme Court said.
00:31:09.000Today, the Supreme Court of the United States expressly took away a constitutional right from the American people.
00:31:44.000What do you mean that it was a constitutional right to have an abortion that it was taken away?
00:31:48.000And therefore, it was moral, according to you.
00:31:51.000By that same logic, the logic that Joe Biden is using, slaveholders in the 1850s could have said, we had a constitutional right declared by Justice Tawny and Dred Scott v. Sanford to property in human beings.
00:32:01.000And it was taken away by a war, not even by a constitutional amendment, because it took the war to get to the constitutional amendment, not even by the Supreme Court.
00:32:07.000It was taken away by a, quote unquote, bloody invasion.
00:32:28.000He doesn't believe that for one iota of one second.
00:32:31.000He's just mad that abortion went away as a federally protected category under Supreme Court jurisprudence that was a complete and deliberate misreading of the Constitution.
00:32:39.000He called this also a tragic error, by the way, a tragic error.
00:32:41.000Joe Biden, we want to talk about tragic errors.
00:32:44.000His entire presidency is a tragic error.
00:32:47.000Make no mistake, this decision is a culmination of a deliberate effort over decades to upset the balance of our law.
00:32:59.000It's a realization of an extreme ideology and a tragic error by the Supreme Court, in my view.
00:33:05.000The Court has done what it has never done before, expressly take away a constitutional right that is so fundamental to so many Americans that it had already been recognized.
00:33:49.000With this decision, the conservative majority of the Supreme Court shows how extreme it is, how far removed they are from the majority of this country.
00:34:00.000They've made the United States an outlier among developed nations in the world.
00:34:05.000But this decision must not be the final word.
00:34:10.000My administration will use all of its appropriate lawful powers, but Congress must act.
00:34:29.000It's now going to go to the states, which is where it was before Roe.
00:34:33.000But the point that he's making there, he makes one point there that I want to discuss a little bit more because people are just stupid and they don't understand things.
00:34:39.000And they deliberately misunderstand things.
00:34:42.000The amount of self-discovery of ignorance on Twitter by folks is really an incredible thing.
00:34:47.000It is indeed amazing how so many people on the left, suddenly they become aware of like basic facts that we've known for years and years and years.
00:34:53.000Well, here's a basic fact that you should have known for years and years and years, especially if you listen to this program.
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00:38:11.000So there you heard the president of the United States declare that the United States is now an outlier and so we need to elect Democrats.
00:38:17.000This is a lie that's being reported by the media over and over.
00:38:20.000Eli Stoeckels, terrible staff writer for the LA Times, he says President Biden and the leaders of the world's most powerful democracies convened in Germany on Sunday for the Group of Seven summit, displaying resolve and a bit of levity in maintaining their commitment to supporting Ukraine as they seek to address global economic woes, food shortages, and the needs of the developing world.
00:38:37.000However, however, The United States' position has now been undercut by the United States, by the Supreme Court's rollback of abortion rights.
00:38:46.000Back home, the Supreme Court's rollback of abortion rights on Friday continues to dominate the news, overshadowing Biden's high-stakes diplomacy, complicating his determination to carry democracy's torch on the world stage.
00:38:55.000So in other words, reverting, and this is an unbelievable line, reverting an issue back to state legislatures is complicating our role as a democracy on the world stage.
00:39:08.000The growing domestic unease, including pressure from progressives demanding Biden and Democrats fight harder to preserve abortion rights, only added to the doubts of the president's G7 counterparts about the stability of his presidency in American democracy more broadly.
00:40:27.000And what it shows you is that actually there are a bunch of countries in Europe, including Poland, where elective abortion is available until week zero.
00:40:33.000There are also a bunch of countries in Europe in which elective abortion is available only until about week 10.
00:40:40.000And in fact, in places like France, elective abortion is available until week 15 in France.
00:42:05.000In places, there are only a couple of places, as we mentioned, in which this is not true.
00:42:10.000Meanwhile, in the United States, the legal limit at somewhere between 21 and 30 weeks was almost all of the United States under Roe vs. Wade.
00:42:17.000And then you had states where there was no legal limit.
00:42:48.000I would venture to say that the people who are truly extreme on abortion are the people who are painting across their pregnant bellies, this is not yet a human.
00:42:55.000Or for example, New York Attorney General Letitia James, who says that New York is now going to become Disneyland for abortion.
00:43:00.000You get to go there with your baby and come back without it.
00:43:03.000Drop your kids off for the rest of their lives.
00:43:05.000Here is Letitia James, the New York Attorney General.
00:43:09.000At this point in time, we are welcoming individuals who are seeking abortions to New York.
00:43:15.000New York has codified it in law, and hopefully this week, as the legislative session returns, they will codify it in our Constitution, the Equality Amendment.
00:43:28.000And I am confident that they will do just that.
00:43:46.000By the way, this is the Democratic Party platform stance.
00:43:48.000So when you hear that the Republican Party platform stance, which is abortion ban across the board, accepting cases where the mother's life's in danger, when you hear that's out of the mainstream, understand that there are more people who believe in some laws restricting abortion, way more people, than believe what Stacey Abrams and the Democratic Party platform is, which is abortion up until you're 95 years old.
00:44:07.000Here is Stacey Abrams making that case.
00:44:11.000Do you support any limitation on abortion or do you think that women should have the right to have an abortion all the way up to nine months?
00:44:20.000I believe an abortion is a medical decision.
00:44:22.000And I believe that that should be a choice made between a doctor and a woman and in consultation with her family.
00:44:29.000But I think the challenge that we have is that we keep putting this in a political space.
00:44:35.000And the medical choices that should be made should be governed by what is best for that woman and what is best at the suggestion of and advice of their doctor.
00:44:47.000Okay, the idea that this is a medical decision?
00:44:49.000No, it is not a medical decision, because if it were, then you would care about, for example, you would ban abortion, except when the life of the mother is in danger, for example.
00:44:55.000Or except when, even if you're going to be more liberal, when there's a serious risk to the health of the mother.
00:44:59.000But that's not what you're arguing for.
00:45:01.000That's not a medical decision, it's a moral decision.
00:45:02.000You think a woman should be able to arbitrarily decide when a life in her womb is actually worthy of life.
00:45:17.000This is just a couple of years after she made the big boo-boo of Georgia passed a voter law.
00:45:22.000And she encouraged the major league baseball to remove the all-star game from Georgia.
00:45:27.000And then she had to walk that back because she realized, oh, wait a second, a bunch of people in Georgia will lose their jobs because of that.
00:45:32.000Now she's encouraging major corporations to leave the state of Georgia if Georgia passes laws protecting the unborn.
00:45:39.000This is an interesting way to run for governor of a state that you actually want to be in charge of.
00:45:44.000Disney and Netflix have expressed their opposition to the so-called heartbeat abortion ban in Georgia when it was passed in 2019.
00:45:52.000Do you think those companies should pull their businesses from Georgia when and if this abortion restriction goes into effect?
00:45:59.000I would tell every single business and every single woman that they should do what is best for the women who work for them.
00:46:05.000They need to make certain that they are accommodating the very real health care challenges that will face women in the state of Georgia.
00:46:21.000companies, including Meta and JPMorgan Chase on Friday, said they'll cover travel costs for employees who seek legal abortions outside their home state after the Supreme Court released a ruling that overturned Roe v. Wade, according to ABC News.
00:46:32.000Several corporations in recent weeks, including Amazon and Starbucks, announced expanded health benefits to pay travel fees incurred by workers seeking an abortion if the procedure is unavailable near where they live.
00:46:41.000So they could deal with this by, you know, expanding parental benefits for their employees.
00:46:45.000Instead, they're going to pay for you to go and kill their baby.
00:46:47.000I mean, after all, you need to be back at work on Monday.
00:46:51.000employees it will cover the cost of travel for those seeking an abortion who can't access the procedure legally in their home state.
00:46:58.000Meta, the parent company of Facebook, says it's going to offer similar coverage of travel expenses for employees seeking abortions.
00:47:04.000Tesla, Citigroup, Apple, Salesforce are among the additional companies that in recent weeks expanded abortion coverage for employees to include costs for travel when necessary.
00:47:11.000Lyft and Uber are also going to do the same.
00:47:15.000So if you thought that corporate America was lined up along business lines, I guess that you could argue that it's a business decision to pay for your employees to kill their babies so they can be back at work on Monday.
00:47:26.000I suppose that that is a business line.
00:47:30.000I would venture to say it's the people who are actively paying for abortions.
00:47:32.000That's probably the people who are extreme.
00:47:34.000Or maybe the people who are encouraging their own home state to be boycotted so you can have abortion on demand.
00:47:40.000And so the Democrats have no answer to this.
00:47:43.000I mean, you have Democrats who are attempting to cope.
00:47:46.000Nancy Pelosi, of course, was very upset.
00:47:48.000She's a very good Catholic, Nancy Pelosi.
00:47:50.000When I say she's a very good Catholic, I mean she's a horrible Catholic.
00:47:52.000The way that I know she's a horrible Catholic is because she stumps for abortion on demand.
00:47:56.000This definitionally makes you a bad Catholic.
00:47:58.000In the same way that if you are an unorthodox Jew, or a Jew at all, and you stump every day for violating the Sabbath, it's not just something you do, it's an act of good.
00:48:15.000One of those doctrines is that you're supposed to protect the life of the unborn.
00:48:17.000I can safely say as a non-Catholic that all I have to do is compare the doctrines to what Nancy Pelosi is saying to notice that what she's doing on this issue is bad Catholicism.
00:48:25.000So here's Nancy Pelosi mourning, mourning, just an abject mourning for abortion.
00:48:31.000Supreme Court has ended a constitutional right.
00:48:33.000This is 50 years proclaimed a constitutional right.
00:48:39.000What happened today was historic in many respects.
00:48:42.000Historic in that it had not granted, recognized a constitutional right and then reversed it.
00:48:57.000It is the end of an era in which the Supreme Court delegated to itself the power to determine what human life constitutes and why you should be allowed to kill it whenever Harry Blackmun thinks you should.
00:49:07.000And Nancy Pelosi then suggests, oh, they achieved their dark, extreme end.
00:49:25.000That's where the light resides, according to Nancy Pelosi.
00:49:28.000Today, the Republican-controlled Supreme Court has achieved their dark, extreme goal of ripping away a woman's right to make their own reproductive health decisions.
00:49:43.000because of Donald Trump, Mitch McConnell.
00:49:46.000and the Republican Party, their super majority in the Supreme Court, American women today have less freedom than their mothers.
00:49:53.000So by the way, I would like to notice here that the language about pregnant men has gone away, hasn't it? We're talking about women again, so that's exciting.
00:50:03.000Congrats to all the trans people who have now been ignored by the Democratic Party.
00:50:54.000Meanwhile, you've got Elizabeth Warren talking about how the Supreme Court burned its legitimacy Elizabeth Warren, who tried to create an entire new branch of government in the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau unconstitutionally, is going to tell you about the Constitution.
00:51:10.000I do know this, that the Republicans have been very overt about trying to get people through the court who didn't have a published record on Roe, but who they knew, wink wink, nod nod, were going to be extremists on the issue of Roe versus Wade.
00:51:29.000And that is exactly what we have ended up with.
00:51:35.000They have burned whatever legitimacy they may still have had.
00:51:40.000After their gun decision, after their voting decision, after their union decision, they just took the last of it and set a torch to it with the Roe vs. Wade opinion.
00:51:50.000I believe we need to get some confidence back in our court and that means we need more justices on the United States Supreme Court.
00:52:00.000So she's calling for packing the court.
00:52:02.000So now we get into the actual solutions that are being provided by the Democrats.
00:52:05.000You have the outsized outrage and the crazy towns, but now we get to their actual solutions.
00:52:43.000To do that, we need to elect two more Democratic senators, and to hold the House, President Biden will sign a law codifying Roe if that happens.
00:52:54.000Ian Millhiser, the moron over at Vox knows that.
00:52:57.000He talks about how the Women's Health Protection Act, which he's very much in favor of, there is no constitutional basis for it.
00:53:03.000It would get struck down almost immediately.
00:53:07.000Because the fact is that the same court, like this is the thing that the left, when they talk about the current constituency of the Supreme Court, they talk about those conservative justices, the textualist judges.
00:53:16.000Those same conservative justices are not going to vote in favor of the federalization of the abortion issue because those justices are in favor of delegation of power And they are in favor of the balance between the federal government and the state government.
00:53:29.000In other words, the same justices who you say are religious bigots who are seeking to ram down their pro-life positions.
00:53:34.000One, did not declare a right to life implicit in the 14th Amendment to the Constitution.
00:53:38.000Two, did not rule out a bound substantive due process, as Clarence Thomas even suggested that they should.
00:53:42.000And three, is not going to allow for an expansion of federal power.
00:53:47.000They're going to curtail federal power.
00:53:49.000They've been reducing federal power because federal power has been irrigated to itself at the expense of the states.
00:53:55.000So those horrible, evil Supreme Court justices who are just Republican legislators and drag, that's not what they do.
00:54:02.000The high likelihood, I would say almost certainty, is that if a pro-life law passed that banned abortion nationwide, just via Congress, not via a constitutional amendment, it would be struck down by the Supreme Court of the United States on Federalist grounds.
00:54:13.000And if a pro-choice law passed that did the same thing, it would be struck down by the United States Supreme Court on Federalist grounds.
00:54:20.000Congress can't simply declare A right to abortion and then use it to cram down various abortion policies on states.
00:54:40.000Again, Congress's power, largely in terms of what states can do, derives from basically the Necessary and Proper Clause and the Commerce Clause.
00:54:47.000There is no case that the Necessary and Proper Clause covers abortion law and the Commerce Clause does not cover abortion law.
00:54:53.000In fact, it's perfectly clear, Justice Kavanaugh wrote a concurrence basically saying this.
00:55:00.000His concurrence says, and when it comes to interstate trafficking, you can't have a state that regulates another state in their abortion law or prevents people from leaving that state in order to go somewhere else for an abortion.
00:56:01.000I believe lying under oath is an impeachable offense.
00:56:04.000I believe that violating federal law in not disclosing income from political organizations, as Clarence Thomas did years ago, is also potentially an impeachable offense.
00:56:18.000So they're going to impeach the justices they don't like based on the fact that those justices did not say they would overrule Roe v. Wade in their hearings.
00:56:26.000Okay, then we get to go back and we get to find out, like, you know, Katonji Brown-Jackson, the new justice, she would not answer what a woman was.
00:56:35.000So if later on she declares that a woman is a man, do we get to impeach her?
00:56:41.000This is irredeemably stupid, but again, could have that pasted on every AOC bumper sticker.
00:56:47.000And then she goes where she really wants to go.
00:56:49.000Okay, Democrats, when they talk about insurrections and burning down institutions and the right wrecking all of the democratic institutions of our society, understand they don't give two craps about these institutions.
00:56:57.000They hate any institution that prevents them from doing precisely what they want.
00:57:00.000They don't care about balance of powers.
00:57:02.000You have a Supreme Court dominated by Republican appointed justices.
00:57:05.000A lot of these institutions were built on a very creaky foundation.
00:57:07.000You can't regulate this because this is a state's issue.
00:57:09.000You'll never see that from the Democrats ever.
00:57:42.000She's saying we need to pack the court.
00:57:47.000She said past presidents from Lincoln to FDR understood the dangerous stakes of allowing an unchecked court overreach its authority and threaten our democracy.
00:58:15.000The president and Dem leaders can no longer get away with familiar tactics of committees and studies to avoid tackling our crises head on anymore.
00:59:46.000What we have to focus on right now is the danger that this Dobbs decision presents to women in the state of Georgia and across the country.
00:59:53.000Well, in more short term, do you think that the Senate should eliminate the filibuster to codify Roe vs. Wade into law?
01:00:17.000That lady who suggests that the election was stolen from her in 2018 in Georgia, they love institutions.
01:00:23.000By the way, Joe Biden, for his part, he says he's not going to pack the court.
01:00:27.000So good luck with that one for the Democrats.
01:00:29.000Which has led, of course, to Democrats now speculating about how can we shove Joe Biden's body outside of this car?
01:00:35.000Can we throw mom off the back of the train here?
01:00:38.000So we have a piece from the electoral analyst John Ellis saying that Hillary Clinton should return.
01:00:47.000The Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe vs. Wade creates the opening for Hillary Clinton to get out of stealth mode and start down the path toward declaring her candidacy for the 2024 presidential nomination.
01:01:09.000Wow, you're really going to the youth movement in the Democratic Party.
01:01:14.000So they're thinking about Hillary Clinton.
01:01:16.000They're thinking about Gavin Newsom, that androgynous Ken doll of a human being who's the governor of California.
01:01:23.000As his wife stood behind him and held back tears, Governor Gavin Newsom on Friday called for the Supreme Court decision to overturn Roe v. Wadey, called it sickening, and beckoned women in other states to California, their sanctuary, for free abortion care.
01:02:42.000You think Loving vs. Virginia, which is not predicated on substantive due process grounds, it's based on the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment, you moron, that this is, that it's now, again, they have to expand this out.
01:02:52.000Oh, they're going to take away same-sex marriage.
01:02:53.000They're going to reverse on interracial marriage.
01:02:55.000They're going to, they're going to, oh my god, they're going to take away your contraception.
01:02:59.000Or maybe they're not going to do any of those things, and they explicitly say that in the decision, but again, if you, if you don't have the argument with you, then you lie.
01:03:06.000So here's Kamala Harris lying poorly, which is what she does for a living.
01:03:10.000In holding that it is not deeply rooted in our history, today's decision on that theory, then, calls into question other rights that we thought were settled, such as the right to use birth control, the right to same-sex marriage, the right to interracial marriage.
01:03:43.000They constructed the worst politician in the world in Dr. Frankenstein's laboratory.
01:03:46.000Like, what if we took the insincerity of Hillary Clinton and we combined it with the inability to speak with any level of enthusiasm of Al Gore?
01:03:54.000And what if we combined that with the smarminess of, like, late-stage Jon Stewart?
01:03:58.000What if we combined all of those things into one human being?
01:04:01.000But she's intersectional, so, you know, that makes it all better.
01:04:04.000The New York Times, by the way, trying the same sort of thing.
01:04:06.000The court is not going to stop at abortion.
01:04:08.000If you think that's hyperbole, consider Justice Clarence Thomas' concurring opinion in Dobbs, in which he called for the court to reconsider other constitutional rights that Americans have enjoyed in some cases for a decade, including the right to use birth control, the right to marry the person of their choosing, and the right of consenting adults to do as they please in the privacy of their bedrooms.
01:04:24.000These rights share a similar constitutional grounding to the now formal right to abortion.
01:04:27.000Listen, I wish that the court did reconsider these decisions on the grounds that the court has no business in these areas.
01:04:33.000And I'm in favor of contraceptives being widely available, for example.
01:04:36.000So, um, first of all, it's not what a court does.
01:04:39.000When a court says, we are not involving ourselves in a decision, it doesn't mean that you now can't do the thing that the court is talking about.
01:04:46.000The willful ignorance, the dramatic willful ignorance of these folks is really astonishing, but they don't have the votes for this.
01:04:52.000Thomas is the only one who said anything remotely like this.
01:04:54.000But they have to keep making the case that the next thing to go is going to be gay marriage.
01:04:59.000The next thing to go is contraception.
01:05:04.000To my great consternation, Obergefell is not going to be overturned.
01:05:07.000To my great consternation, Griswold is not going to be overturned.
01:05:10.000I'm in favor of bad decisions being overturned, but they don't have the votes to do it.
01:05:14.000But the Democrats have to try and scare people because they're hoping that if they scare people, then eventually the freaking people out will lead to people voting for them.
01:06:22.000There they are outside the doors and they are, um, they're beating on the doors.
01:06:44.000In LA, a man set a police officer on fire with a makeshift flamethrower during Friday night's abortion rights demonstration in downtown Los Angeles.
01:06:53.000So here is some of the footage from Los Angeles.
01:06:56.000These folks, they're all in fa- You know what?
01:06:57.000They're just peaceful, again, mostly peaceful protests happening.
01:07:30.000The Democrats have no way of coping with this.
01:07:31.000They don't have any plan to deal with this.
01:07:34.000And everything they're telling you is a lie designed for electoral gain.
01:07:37.000But those lies, I think, are very unlikely to pay off for them.
01:07:40.000Instead, what you're going to have is where this should have been back in 1970, which is a reversion back to the states where these issues will be played out.
01:07:48.000All right, we'll be back here later today with an additional hour of content.
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