The Ben Shapiro Show - September 11, 2026


The 9-11 Conspiracy Theories, Debunked


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00:00:00.000 This is what happens when you frontally lobotomize your entire civilization in the name of tolerance, rather than just telling the truth about the world as it stands.
00:00:09.000 So, what have we gotten on the 25th anniversary of 9-11?
00:00:13.000 What have we gotten here?
00:00:15.000 Ignorance. 0.98
00:00:16.000 Now, the media, of course, were fully complicit in the effort to whitewash Islam so as to protect Muslims from evil, nefarious Americans. 0.97
00:00:22.000 The idea here, and this is what animated President Bush, was the idea that if he didn't say that Islam was peace, Americans would go willy-nilly into the streets and start lynching people.
00:00:29.000 It's the reason why the media also erased so much of the 9-11 footage and refused to air it.
00:00:34.000 They just were going to erase it from our memories.
00:00:36.000 Meanwhile, of course, in our modern propaganda era, America's enemies are more than happy to not only promote but fabricate alleged Western atrocities against Muslims.
00:00:44.000 So here's the deal. 0.60
00:00:45.000 When you refuse to acknowledge the reality of Islam's role in geopolitics, people are left to speculate about the motives behind acts like 9 11. 0.89
00:00:54.000 And then they glom onto precisely the sort of materialistic worldview that Osama bin Laden was counting on the idea that only if the United States, if only the US and the West, weren't so mean and cruel and interventionist, Then there'd be no problems. 0.87
00:01:07.000 The world would have been hunky dory.
00:01:08.000 9 11 never would have happened. 0.84
00:01:10.000 Thus, the post 9 11 measures taken by the Bush administration were never seen as a fully justified attempt to destroy the regime, the regime based foundations of political Islam.
00:01:19.000 You know, the regimes that supported political Islam and promoted terrorism, because Islam was never associated with anything bad.
00:01:27.000 It was a religion of peace. 0.61
00:01:29.000 Instead, it was just a cycle of violence.
00:01:30.000 We intervene, they respond.
00:01:31.000 We intervene, they respond.
00:01:33.000 That's a lie, but it became a very, very popular.
00:01:36.000 Why? 0.70
00:01:37.000 Exhausted by a decade of war, never told why all of these wars were part of a broader narrative reality in which Islam, as practiced in many of these countries, promotes terrorism and radicalism, the American people decided that we were, in fact, the bad guys. 0.89
00:01:53.000 And this is what many, many Americans now believe, which is why just last year there's a whole spate of people on TikTok reading Osama bin Laden's letter and deciding they agree with him. 0.82
00:02:07.000 So this is.
00:02:08.000 Insane.
00:02:08.000 I just read Osama bin Laden's letter to America, which I will be going through right here.
00:02:14.000 But it's actually so mind to me that terrorism has been sold as this idea to the American people and honestly, just so many Western inhabitants within certain nations that this group of people, this random group of people, just suddenly wakes up one day and just fucking hates you, just wants you dead, wants you gone. 0.97
00:02:35.000 And this is all because they believe that they're better than us. 0.92
00:02:37.000 Like, that is the root of terrorism.
00:02:38.000 It doesn't make sense. 1.00
00:02:39.000 They just hate your fucking nation, but. 0.99
00:02:41.000 Reading this letter, it becomes apparent to me that the actions of 9 11 and those acts committed against the USA and its people were all just a buildup of our government failing other nations. 0.99
00:02:56.000 And this has become quite the popular view. 0.59
00:02:58.000 Now, again, she and the rest of the TikTok generation are reading the excuse making part of the bin Laden letter.
00:03:03.000 They're ignoring the part where he says what he wants everybody to do. 0.65
00:03:07.000 He wants this genderqueer person with the nose ring to convert to Islam and be subject to the whims of Sharia law. 0.60
00:03:15.000 And again, this has become popular throughout the West, which is why the current mayor of New York tweeted in 2023, three years ago, on 9 11 quote, nearly 3,000 New Yorkers died on 9 11.
00:03:27.000 22 years later, the death hasn't stopped.
00:03:29.000 We mourn our neighbors who died that day, the hundreds of thousands who died in the wars that followed, the unknown millions injured and displaced.
00:03:34.000 In their memory, we work toward a better world.
00:03:36.000 So again, we have no idea why New Yorkers died on 9 11, but it resulted in terrible American action, which was markedly worse than 9 11.
00:03:46.000 It's all just part of a broader cycle of violence.
00:03:48.000 Really driven by American foreign policy.
00:03:51.000 And of course, this is why there is no lack of solidarity between, say, Zoram Amdani and Hassan Piker.
00:03:58.000 It is also why Hassan Piker openly says Americans don't really care about 9 11.
00:04:02.000 It's just an excuse, you see.
00:04:06.000 It's very clear that right now, most people in the United States of America, even like older conservatives, they don't necessarily care about 9 11.
00:04:18.000 They'll lie to you if you were to call them out on this issue.
00:04:23.000 They'd be like, How dare you say such a thing?
00:04:24.000 Of course we do. 1.00
00:04:25.000 Shut the fuck up, right? 1.00
00:04:28.000 They would lie to you. 1.00
00:04:30.000 Easily, and maybe even lie to themselves.
00:04:34.000 They don't really care.
00:04:36.000 They don't really care.
00:04:36.000 Hassan Piker, by the way, is saying all this with the newspaper of the towers being struck by the airliners in the background of his studio alongside the Chinese and Cuban flags.
00:04:47.000 According to Hassan Piker, the only reason that Americans talk about 9 11 is because they want to weaponize it against Muslims, which is truly an incredible statement given the fact that the people who committed the 9 11 attack were doing so in the name of Islam.
00:05:00.000 They were not hiding the ball.
00:05:04.000 So, remember when these guys talk about 9 11 and how much they care about the patriotism, how much they care about the victims. 1.00
00:05:12.000 It's all bullshit. 0.99
00:05:14.000 The only thing they care about is using 9 11 to weaponize against the entire Muslim world, to weaponize against Muslim Americans. 0.98
00:05:27.000 And of course, Abdul Al Sayyah, the Democrats' chosen nominee for the Senate in Michigan back in 2021, after putting out a tweet very much like that of Zarman Dhani on 9 11. He also suggested, again, and it's all just part of a cycle of violence, you see. 0.77
00:05:40.000 And really, if you go back to the beginning of the cycle of violence, it was the West that caused all of this.
00:05:48.000 9 11 scarred our country in profound ways, but what we did after 9 11 scarred millions of other people. 0.55
00:05:54.000 When we talk about 9 11, we often fail to center them.
00:05:59.000 Again, when you don't label the ideological enemy that caused 9 11, you end up in this world.
00:06:04.000 Because again, assume for a second that everyone believes like you, everybody is similarly committed.
00:06:09.000 To secular materialist values.
00:06:11.000 Everybody just wants freedom and peace and live with their families in harmony in the way that you do.
00:06:16.000 What would cause them to fly a plane into a building?
00:06:17.000 It must have been something that we did.
00:06:20.000 That must have been it.
00:06:21.000 This is what happens when you project your own mentality onto an irredentist philosophy that has not changed for some 1,400 years in practice for the vast majority of practitioners on planet Earth and in any governing country in which it rules.
00:06:34.000 This, of course, is not, this nonsense has not only been picked up by the left, it has, of course, been picked up by the horseshoe right as well.
00:06:40.000 Literally on the 25th anniversary of 9 11, Tucker Carlson.
00:06:43.000 Why I've been informed by really important people is a valuable voice within conservatism for some reason no one can seem to explain to me.
00:06:51.000 He put out a statement in his newsletter defending Abdul El Sayed.
00:06:55.000 Quote Everyone agrees the terrorist attack on September 11, 2001 was the worst crime ever committed on U.S. soil.
00:07:02.000 Thousands of innocents died, skyscrapers crashed to the ground, untold numbers of first responders continued to endure the long term health consequences of inhaling toxic air at ground zero.
00:07:10.000 But that is not the whole story.
00:07:12.000 Your typical Fox News viewer, says Tucker Carlson, is likely oblivious to this.
00:07:16.000 But America's response to 9 11 blew the original attack out of the water. 0.78
00:07:21.000 That's right, full moral equation between the United States and Al Qaeda. 0.59
00:07:25.000 George W. Bush's subsequent war in Iraq, which made no sense considering Iraq did not do 9 11, got hundreds of thousands of innocents killed, had tens of thousands of American military casualties, and catalyzed the creation of ISIS.
00:07:37.000 That means the United States slaughtered enough civilians to account for dozens and dozens of 9 11s.
00:07:41.000 And that is a conservative estimate.
00:07:43.000 And then he quotes precisely that audio we just played from Abdul El Sayed.
00:07:49.000 Quote, 2021 audio of Michigan Senate candidate Abdul El Sayed acknowledging this stomach churning reality resurfaced this week, revealing that he understands the basic concept that murdering hundreds of thousands of people is bad.
00:08:03.000 And then he quotes the comments.
00:08:05.000 He says, There is nothing remotely crazy about these remarks, says Tucker Carlson.
00:08:08.000 They're approximately as scandalous as a weatherman declaring that clouds carry rainwater.
00:08:12.000 El Sayed didn't celebrate airplane hijackings or cheerlead Al Qaeda.
00:08:15.000 He simply said the United States conducting terrorism of its own.
00:08:18.000 In response to 9 11, it was not exactly an appropriate reaction. 1.00
00:08:21.000 He is obviously right. 0.88
00:08:22.000 And then, of course, he rips into Mike Rogers for saying the opposite because he would like to see the pro jihadist win in Michigan, Tucker Carlson.
00:08:30.000 This is what happens when a country refuses to defend its own civilization and labels the chief ideology of its enemies peace.
00:08:38.000 Turns out that that's a terrible idea.
00:08:40.000 Now, conspiracism about 9 11 is part and parcel of all of this.
00:08:43.000 If it turns out that not only was 9 11 blowback, but that 9 11 wasn't even done by Muslims at all, it turns out that America isn't just the bad guy. 0.73
00:08:50.000 It is a victim of a massive conspiracy by unspecified others. 0.85
00:08:53.000 We'll let you guess whom. 0.60
00:08:55.000 Now, again, if you wonder about the radicalism of Muslims in the West, here is a piece of information.
00:09:01.000 In 2009, Pew asked American Muslims who was behind 9 11.
00:09:05.000 Only four in 10 Muslim Americans accepted that groups of Arabs carried out 9 11.
00:09:11.000 28% rejected it.
00:09:12.000 32% offered no answer.
00:09:14.000 By the way, the proportionality there is significantly lower if they are heavily practicing Muslims. 0.88
00:09:21.000 The more religious you are, The more you believe conspiracy theories about 9 11. 0.96
00:09:25.000 This also happens to be true about support for Hamas.
00:09:28.000 Tucker Carlson, of course, is a full blown conspiracy theorist about 9 11 as well, as well as everything else, by the way.
00:09:37.000 He's not the only one.
00:09:39.000 Emerson College polling shows that 25% of people believe that the government helped plan the attacks of 9 11, a quarter of Americans.
00:09:52.000 When asked who is responsible for the 9 11 attacks, Only 24% of people said Al Qaeda or Osama bin Laden.
00:09:58.000 19% said terrorists or extremists.
00:10:00.000 That is 43% total.
00:10:02.000 Everybody else said either the U.S. government, something else, or did not know.
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00:11:09.000 Again, this is what happens when you frontally lobotomize your entire civilization in the name of tolerance rather than just telling the truth about the world as it stands.
00:11:20.000 So, what have we gotten on the 25th anniversary of 9 11?
00:11:25.000 What have we gotten here?
00:11:26.000 Ignorance.
00:11:28.000 Here is Franklin Andres Camargo interviewing college students in Los Angeles as to who did 9 11.
00:11:36.000 9 11, does it sound familiar to you?
00:11:38.000 I know what happened, but I was really boring.
00:11:40.000 Tin Towers collapsed.
00:11:42.000 I know some very bad people flew two planes into our trade centers in New York.
00:11:46.000 Do you know who attacked us?
00:11:49.000 As far as I know, not really.
00:11:50.000 I wasn't really educated much on it.
00:11:51.000 I tried to do research.
00:11:53.000 It was.
00:11:53.000 Oh my God, my boyfriend's a lot about history.
00:11:55.000 We literally talked about this.
00:11:57.000 Do you know the name of the group?
00:11:58.000 I forgot the specific group who did that.
00:12:01.000 So it was Al Qaeda.
00:12:02.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:12:02.000 Al Qaeda?
00:12:03.000 Yep, yep, yep.
00:12:03.000 You're right.
00:12:04.000 Well, from what I'm told, it's a terrorist organization.
00:12:06.000 But there's a lot of contention on that.
00:12:08.000 Al Qaeda.
00:12:09.000 Do you know what religion they all practiced? 0.96
00:12:12.000 Um.
00:12:13.000 To be honest, I do not remember.
00:12:15.000 I'm not really into religion myself, so.
00:12:16.000 All right, tell me the letter, first letter.
00:12:19.000 I.
00:12:19.000 I.
00:12:21.000 I.
00:12:22.000 So they're radical.
00:12:22.000 Yeah.
00:12:24.000 They're in the Middle East. 1.00
00:12:25.000 They attacked America. 1.00
00:12:26.000 Okay. 0.97
00:12:27.000 And the religion starts with an I. 0.89
00:12:29.000 An I? 0.98
00:12:31.000 Oh my gosh. 0.97
00:12:32.000 I want to say something, but I don't want to sound retarded. 1.00
00:12:34.000 Just say it. 0.95
00:12:34.000 Israel? 0.95
00:12:39.000 Again, none of this is particularly shocking because we have decided we're not going to talk about this stuff.
00:12:43.000 This is a conspiracy of silence that has been.
00:12:45.000 Blanketed across America for the last 25 years.
00:12:47.000 If you mention this, if you mention the word Islam in connection with 9 11, you're immediately labeled an Islamophobe and you are told that you are somehow putting in danger peaceful Muslims across the United States.
00:12:57.000 That is not true.
00:12:59.000 It is not true. 1.00
00:13:01.000 Islam as a governing philosophy on planet Earth, where there are Muslim majority countries, freedom recedes, liberty recedes. 0.99
00:13:10.000 The belief system held by a huge percentage of Muslims across planet Earth and a heavy percentage in the West as well. Is not conciliatory with basic ideas of the West, like separation of church and state and freedom of religion. 0.91
00:13:25.000 That is just a reality. 0.93
00:13:26.000 Again, this does not mean that there aren't Muslims who don't support terrorism. 0.89
00:13:31.000 There are lots of Muslims who don't support terrorism.
00:13:33.000 It does not mean that there aren't some moderate or reform Muslims out there.
00:13:38.000 There are some, and I hope they win.
00:13:40.000 I truly hope they win.
00:13:41.000 But if you don't name the problem, if you say that Islam is currently practiced across planet Earth in countries ranging from Afghanistan to Saudi Arabia, Is a moderating force. 0.55
00:13:50.000 There is no actual movement toward moderation. 0.75
00:13:55.000 So instead, we decided that we're just not going to talk about it.
00:13:58.000 We're just not going to talk about it.
00:14:00.000 Ami Horowitz went out and surveyed people in New York City about 9 11, and again, similar ignorance. 0.74
00:14:08.000 Like, I think that we did 9 11 to ourselves to fight with the Middle East. 1.00
00:14:13.000 I would agree with her. 1.00
00:14:15.000 Okay.
00:14:15.000 Would you call 9 11 a terrorist attack?
00:14:17.000 I think it was like an act of. 0.53
00:14:19.000 War. 0.91
00:14:19.000 I would say it's active violence. 0.91
00:14:21.000 Active violence?
00:14:21.000 Yeah.
00:14:22.000 Not a terrorist attack.
00:14:23.000 No, I mean, if that's a terrorist attack, then so was America's terrorist attack on any other country they've ever done.
00:14:28.000 So, would you agree that that was more freedom fighters?
00:14:30.000 Yeah, I would say yes.
00:14:32.000 I do understand, like, as, like, the mindset of, like, why that'd be, like, a freedom fight.
00:14:32.000 Yeah.
00:14:37.000 Like, I get that, like, mindset.
00:14:38.000 Terror attacks in general are kind of used as a weapon to discredit various people of color.
00:14:52.000 This 9 11, what are we most likely to get?
00:14:54.000 Well, probably from most people, we'll get empty words.
00:14:57.000 We'll get specious explanations of what led to 9 11.
00:14:59.000 And it must have been our military base in Saudi Arabia, or maybe it was our policy with regard to Israel.
00:15:04.000 Certainly, it had to be the West doing something bad, or no explanation at all.
00:15:08.000 Poof, 3,000 people died.
00:15:08.000 It's just a mystery.
00:15:11.000 We'll get tweets about an unspecified tragedy that occurred for some unspecified reason.
00:15:15.000 We get tweets from Kathy Hochul, the governor of New York On this 25th anniversary, we should honor those we lost by coming together again as New Yorkers and Americans.
00:15:23.000 Division should not prevail over the spirit of unity that brought us together after September 11th.
00:15:27.000 But here's the thing.
00:15:29.000 Here's the thing.
00:15:30.000 Deep down, everybody who lived through 9 11 and anybody with a semblance of capacity to think knows the truth about who did 9 11 and what they still believe, and that there are legitimately tens of millions of people who agree with the basic worldview of those people.
00:15:49.000 That is a reality.
00:15:50.000 There's a reason that 9 11 families were pleading with Zorhan Mamdani to stay away from the 25th memorial ceremony.
00:15:58.000 Please do not attend the 25th anniversary September 11th commemoration at the World Trade Center.
00:16:03.000 Our petition is not about Mayor Mamdami's religion or where he came from.
00:16:10.000 It is strictly about the policies that he has today.
00:16:14.000 So we are asking him to respect the fact that that trauma is revived during the ceremony.
00:16:22.000 It is a private ceremony, it is not a public ceremony.
00:16:29.000 Mayor Mandami, please do not come.
00:16:35.000 Well, again, we have become.
00:16:37.000 Unacquainted with reality, but it's time to reacquaint ourselves because all of the things that we have done since, those are ongoing problems. 0.97
00:16:45.000 Importing millions of people from parts of the world that despise America is a horrible, horrible idea, and we have done that.
00:16:52.000 Pretending that terrorists all over the world are simply responding to American cruelty leads to American weakness. 0.93
00:16:58.000 It is foolishness. 0.98
00:17:00.000 Now, there are some people in the U.S. who wish to keep promoting this foolishness. 0.95
00:17:04.000 The Fairfax County Public Schools have told teachers not to link 9 11 with Islam in any way, according to Fox News.
00:17:10.000 They're advising teachers not to link 9 11 with radical Islam, not even Islam generally, radical Islam even, and to be sure to create safe spaces for Muslim students as the nation somberly marks the 25th anniversary of the terror attacks that killed nearly 3,000 Americans.
00:17:25.000 Instead, they issued a six page instructional guide to teachers that suggested that people emphasize humanity, hope, and unity.
00:17:34.000 Don't associate the 9 11 attacks with Islam or Muslims, or center the extremists or the acts of extremists.
00:17:41.000 It's a very different thing from what the Texas Board of Education has now proved.
00:17:44.000 The board approved language asserting that radical Islam motivated the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, rather than taking a more narrow focus on the terrorist groups involved in the attack.
00:17:53.000 The material also requires students to study early Islam through Prophet Muhammad's brutal military campaigns against Jewish and Christian tribes, the normalization of slavery, and the taking of female captives as harem slaves.
00:18:05.000 Of course, the Council on American Islamic Relations is very, very upset about all of this.
00:18:09.000 So here's the deal If we wish for an America that is strong enough to withstand its enemies, That starts with a willingness to speak hard truths, difficult truths, truths. 0.83
00:18:22.000 Yes, Islam, as currently implemented on planet Earth broadly and politically, is a global threat to Western values. 0.98
00:18:30.000 It has been a global threat to those values for some 1,400 years. 0.73
00:18:34.000 Again, this does not mean that every Muslim is a threat.
00:18:37.000 There are lots of Muslims who want to live in peace as good citizens of the West.
00:18:40.000 There are some who want to moderate their regimes.
00:18:42.000 It doesn't mean there can't be Muslim regimes that moderate over time.
00:18:46.000 I'm hoping that we're seeing that right now from some of the regimes in the Middle East, like UAE.
00:18:50.000 It also doesn't mean that we have to engage in global regime change wars requiring massive, costly interventions for decades.
00:18:56.000 Pragmatic solutions vary to specific problems.
00:18:59.000 But if we refuse to acknowledge who did 9 11 and why they did it and what the overall problem is, we will then import it.
00:19:07.000 And that is what we have done.
00:19:09.000 Not only that, our enemies will perceive our weakness. 0.59
00:19:12.000 Every great Islamic terror leader has the same theory that even if their terrorist attacks provoke a Western response, The West is, in the end, too weak in its own principles to fight the hard fights, too attached to material comforts to sacrifice on behalf of truth. 0.85
00:19:26.000 They bet that the West will eventually exhaust itself and give up.
00:19:29.000 Bin Laden said, quote, America is definitely a great power with unbelievable military strength and a vibrant economy, but all of these have been built on a very weak and hollow foundation.
00:19:40.000 But here is the thing that foundation can be rebuilt.
00:19:44.000 All that is required is to tell the truth.
00:19:46.000 That is all that is required to build the truth.
00:19:50.000 Now, since 9 11, our fighting men and women did their job.
00:19:54.000 They did their job.
00:19:55.000 The heroes of 9 11 did their job.
00:19:57.000 The American people were willing to do their job.
00:20:00.000 And we were failed by a political class that preferred to tell itself comforting lies, comfortable lies.
00:20:07.000 Our political and moral leadership failed us.
00:20:11.000 So we must rebuild that foundation. 0.64
00:20:13.000 If we don't rebuild that foundation, Osama bin Laden gets what he always wanted a weak and hollow West ready to come down at the touch of a bomb or a button. 0.83
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