The Ben Shapiro Show - The Age Of AOC | Ep. 1570

00:00:00.000 It's a cavalcade of Democratic social media stars as Barack Obama returns to the White House to take a victory lap.

00:00:06.000 AOC graces the cover of GQ and Hillary hits The View. 1.00

00:00:09.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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00:01:27.000 I've been saying for a very long time that politics should be a serious business. 1.00

00:01:31.000 I mean, sure, it's a comedy because it's a bunch of idiots running around who are telling you what to do and botching it every which way and then blaming you. 1.00

00:01:37.000 And if you watch it as a tragedy, it's really sad. 1.00

00:01:39.000 But if you watch it as a comedy, it's hilarious.

00:01:40.000 But the truth is, politics overall is a pretty serious business because you're talking about people attempting to solve problems that affect it.

00:01:47.000 Hundreds of millions, if not billions of people.

00:01:49.000 You're talking about people who wield extraordinary amounts of power over your everyday life.

00:01:54.000 And that means they should be serious people.

00:01:56.000 They should be people who are working within our institutions in order to make incremental changes that better your life over the course of time.

00:02:03.000 That's what politics theoretically should be about.

00:02:05.000 And the job of a politician is different than, say, the job that I have, right?

00:02:09.000 The job that I have is to articulate the principles that I believe in and then to hold people accountable when they don't actually face up to those principles.

00:02:16.000 The job of a politician is to understand where their principles are and then to make the necessary adjustments to those principles, the necessary compromises in order to incrementally move the ball forward along the lines of their principles.

00:02:27.000 That's what a politician's job is to do.

00:02:30.000 But what our politics has basically become is a bunch of social media influencers.

00:02:33.000 And I'm talking all the way on up To the presidency.

00:02:36.000 So yesterday, Barack Obama shows up at the White House.

00:02:40.000 He's back.

00:02:41.000 And I think I really do think that Barack Obama represents a gap in how Americans have treated the presidency, have treated politics in total.

00:02:50.000 Barack Obama was the first celebrity president.

00:02:53.000 Like just treated as a celebrity, fated as a celebrity.

00:02:56.000 He was a person who treated the office as a platform.

00:02:58.000 He is not somebody who treated the office as an institution to be wielded for incremental change.

00:03:03.000 Every change was going to be sweeping.

00:03:05.000 He was the leader of a movement.

00:03:06.000 He was a radical politician who wasn't really a politician.

00:03:09.000 He was a messianic leader who'd been thrust into this and treated as a cultural icon by members of the left.

00:03:14.000 Treated as one of the Hollywood glitterati.

00:03:17.000 And he ushered in a new era in American politics.

00:03:20.000 I mean, before that, basically American politicians, no matter how much the media tried to spin them as celebrities, they were still politicians.

00:03:25.000 Bill Clinton was always a politician.

00:03:27.000 George W. Bush was always a politician.

00:03:29.000 Ronald Reagan had been a Hollywood star, but he was treated like a politician.

00:03:32.000 He was not a Hollywood star by the time he entered office.

00:03:34.000 In fact, he was mocked for the fact that he'd even once been a Hollywood star when he was running for office in 1980.

00:03:39.000 Richard Nixon was a lifelong politician.

00:03:40.000 Gerald Ford was a politician, right?

00:03:42.000 If you go back far enough, what you're talking about is not celebrity politics.

00:03:45.000 You're talking about politicians who have a political job to do.

00:03:49.000 And again, a politician is more like a plumber than they are like a messianic figure, at least in the American system.

00:03:55.000 You're not supposed to treat your politicians as though they are people who have been arranged from on high to save you.

00:04:01.000 And you're certainly not supposed to treat them the same way that you would treat a Hollywood celebrity.

00:04:04.000 And yet the merger of culture and politics took place under Barack Obama.

00:04:09.000 And it's been really, really bad for American politics on all sides of the aisle, by the way, not just for the left.

00:04:14.000 Because once politics becomes not the art of getting things done in the context of checks and balances, upholding rights while pursuing better lives for people.

00:04:24.000 Once politics becomes not that, but simply a platform for you to become more famous or more rich.

00:04:29.000 For you to stand outside the system and shout at the system, politics breaks down.

00:04:33.000 Yuval Levin, really good thinker over at the American Enterprise Institute, he had a book recently called The Time to Build.

00:04:38.000 And he talked about how politics had basically shifted From a place where institutions shape the people who are instituted.

00:04:45.000 If you went into Congress, Congress shaped you.

00:04:46.000 You had to work within the boundaries of Congress to get things done.

00:04:49.000 If you became president, the institution of the presidency shaped you.

00:04:52.000 It aged you.

00:04:53.000 You had to work within its boundaries.

00:04:55.000 There were constitutional norms that were supposed to affect you as a human being.

00:04:59.000 And how politics has shifted from institutions and working within institutions to people who are using the institutions as a platform.

00:05:05.000 And here's what Yuval Levin writes in his book, A Time to Build, because I think it's super relevant because what you're seeing in politics right now, the breakdown in politics and the dissatisfaction of Americans with their politicians comes from exactly this.

00:05:14.000 Americans look at these messianic figures who, again, do not want to operate within the boundaries of their institutions, who see the institutions as thwarting them.

00:05:22.000 And they expect the world from them because if somebody comes along and says, the institutions are what stand between you and glory.

00:05:27.000 Come with me and I will break the institutions and I will fix everything for you.

00:05:31.000 People tend to put their faith in those people and that faith ultimately will be disappointed.

00:05:35.000 And that's particularly true if that person poses as a messianic figure and is utterly incapable of carrying off the charade, which is Joe Biden.

00:05:43.000 At least what you can say about Barack Obama is that Barack Obama acted the part.

00:05:47.000 If he's going to be a messianic figure, at least Barack Obama acted it.

00:05:50.000 In his very personage, he embodied the idea that America was going to come together racially.

00:05:54.000 He was a terrific speaker.

00:05:54.000 He was a very good politician, right?

00:05:56.000 He actually embodied a lot of these things.

00:05:59.000 Joe Biden does not.

00:05:59.000 You can say about Donald Trump on the right that at least Donald Trump was a real celebrity.

00:06:03.000 I mean, he was a celebrity long before he was a politician.

00:06:06.000 And so when he was a celebrity who became a politician, it wasn't that awkward a merger.

00:06:09.000 As I've said before, Barack Obama and Donald Trump are actually weird kind of photo negative inverses of one another.

00:06:16.000 Barack Obama liked to see himself as this very genteel politician, a A person who is operating in the mode of like Benjamin Disraeli or something.

00:06:25.000 But that's not who Barack Obama was.

00:06:27.000 He was a selfie stick guy who posed as a messianic guy, which is kind of like Trump, right?

00:06:31.000 I mean, they're operating in the same context.

00:06:33.000 The context just changed.

00:06:34.000 Steve Oliven talks about this.

00:06:35.000 He says, on the threats to institutions that are characteristic of our time, he says, quote, we will find that the lure of cynical distance and of playing the outsider are deadly to the kind of renewal our society requires.

00:06:45.000 And to the idea that politicians, they stand outside the system, they rip the system.

00:06:48.000 That's their job.

00:06:49.000 That their job isn't to operate within the system.

00:06:51.000 And what makes a politician successful is saying that the system itself is bad, campaigning against the system.

00:06:56.000 Which has been a hallmark of Barack Obama and Donald Trump and Joe Biden.

00:06:59.000 This is now a hallmark of pretty much everybody in politics.

00:07:02.000 I'm an outsider, I'm campaigning against the system.

00:07:05.000 Yvon Levin says that destroys the institutions.

00:07:08.000 Says, we'll notice that the culture of celebrity turns out again and again to be the enemy of a culture of integrity.

00:07:14.000 We'll see that our pervasive and polarized culture war is drowning our society in poisonous acrimony, and perhaps above all, we'll find that the people who occupy our institutions increasingly understand those institutions not as molds that ought to shape their behavior and character, but as platforms that allow them greater individual exposure and enable them to hone their personal brands.

00:07:33.000 What he says, you've all heard him, he says, human beings are born as crooked creatures prone to waywardness and sin.

00:07:37.000 We therefore always require moral and social formation.

00:07:40.000 Such formation is what our institutions are for.

00:07:42.000 But instead, what our politicians are doing is they are wrecking those institutions so they can build monuments to themselves.

00:07:47.000 They're taking these institutions that have been carefully, gradually built up over the course of centuries, and they're just dismantling them and then reshaping the bricks into a platform for themselves.

00:07:57.000 And Barack Obama was the leader in this.

00:07:59.000 He was the leader in this.

00:08:00.000 He came along, pledging to be a unifying president who's going to operate within the boundaries of the law.

00:08:05.000 And by the time he had a second term, he was, I'm Obama, pen and phone guy, right?

00:08:09.000 If Congress won't do what I want, there'll be a pen and a phone, selfie stick hanging out on Jimmy Kimmel.

00:08:14.000 He is the embodiment of all of this.

00:08:16.000 And I know Democrats love to worship at the altar of Obama.

00:08:18.000 And it's specifically because of this.

00:08:19.000 It's because Barack Obama was the first celebrity president.

00:08:24.000 We'd had people who were famous before, but they were expected to then conform to the office.

00:08:28.000 General Eisenhower was very, very famous, but then he was very much expected and he did conform to the office of the presidency.

00:08:33.000 Barack Obama always operated as an outsider to the presidency.

00:08:36.000 So when he arrives back at the White House and is treated as a celebrity, there's a reason why.

00:08:41.000 It's because he was primarily a celebrity, not primarily a president.

00:08:44.000 So he arrives back at the White House.

00:08:47.000 To unveil the portraits.

00:08:49.000 This is, again, this is Joe Biden who is sinking in the polls.

00:08:53.000 And so welcoming Barack Obama back is a way to try and transfer some of Obama's popularity to him.

00:08:57.000 Now that doesn't work.

00:08:59.000 A celebrity's popularity is non-transferable.

00:09:01.000 That's not transferable credit.

00:09:02.000 It's not fluid.

00:09:03.000 It's not fungible.

00:09:04.000 Barack Obama can't simply arrive at the White House, rub Joe Biden's balding head with the hair plugs and everything, and suddenly Joe Biden is significantly more popular.

00:09:12.000 That's not the way this works.

00:09:13.000 Barack Obama couldn't even do this with members of Congress when he was president of the United States, let alone when he's the ex-president.

00:09:17.000 But that's what this is about.

00:09:19.000 And you can see it, by the way, every time Obama shows up at the White House, it's so awkward because the media love him.

00:09:24.000 The staff love him because he's famous.

00:09:26.000 He's a celebrity.

00:09:27.000 He's magnetic.

00:09:28.000 And sad old poor shambling Joe over here, It's just a career corrupt politician playing at this.

00:09:35.000 It's sort of like LBJ taking over for JFK, right?

00:09:39.000 JFK was a big camelot, big celebrity. 0.99

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00:10:59.000 So Obama and former First Lady Michelle Obama returned Wednesday to the White House for the unveiling of their official portraits.

00:11:04.000 The paintings were revealed during a ceremony in the East Room hosted by President Biden and First Lady Jill Biden.

00:11:08.000 It was the first time Mrs. Obama had returned to the White House since she and Obama left in 2017.

00:11:13.000 Remember, Mrs. Obama has also used the White House as a massive platform for herself.

00:11:17.000 She arrived in the White House Perceived as an extraordinary political radical, Michelle Obama. 1.00

00:11:23.000 This is a lady who during the 2008 election campaign had suggested that she was never proud of her country until her husband was nominated for high office.

00:11:29.000 Which is a pretty extraordinary thing to say when you went to Princeton University Harvard Law School and got a cush job on the University of Chicago Medical School Board.

00:11:36.000 I mean, that's a pretty good life.

00:11:38.000 So if you're only proud of your country when your husband gets nominated, that says something about your politics.

00:11:42.000 She was then transformed by the media into a level-headed moderate And now, of course, she's treated by the media as Oprah, and her book sold some 12 million copies, and she's treated as a cultural figure, a cultural totem.

00:11:54.000 Mr. Obama visited earlier this year for an event honoring Obamacare.

00:11:57.000 The ceremony, which was packed with former Obama aides, marked the first portrait unveiling at the White House since 2012, when former President George W. Bush and Laura Bush were received by the Obamas.

00:12:06.000 Former President Trump didn't host his predecessor for a portrait event, as many recent presidents have.

00:12:10.000 So, first of all, if Trump had invited Obama, you think Obama was going to show up and do that event with Trump?

00:12:13.000 No way.

00:12:15.000 The White House Portrait Collection dates to a painting of former President George Washington that hangs in the East Room.

00:12:19.000 Starting in the 1960s, the White House Historical Association sought to acquire portraits of past presidents and first ladies not in the collection and began financing portraits of recent presidents.

00:12:27.000 According to Stuart McLaurin, the organization's president, this is the Wall Street Journal reporting.

00:12:32.000 Mr. McLaurin said, quote, the association meets with the outgoing president and first lady.

00:12:35.000 The couple picks the artist and the association pays for the portraits with private funds.

00:12:39.000 Obama's portrait was painted by Robert McCurdy, an artist known for a photorealist style.

00:12:44.000 So, you know, kind of, it looks like a photo, basically.

00:12:47.000 It's a fine portrait.

00:12:49.000 It's kind of stark because there's no background.

00:12:51.000 It's just, it's white, so it's made for memes, which of course the internet immediately picked up on.

00:12:56.000 Mrs. Obama was painted by Sharon Sprung, whose work includes two portraits at the U.S.

00:13:00.000 Capitol, including one of Jeanette Rankin, the first woman elected to Congress.

00:13:04.000 And here is a little bit of what it looked like, right?

00:13:09.000 You can see here is Obama and, you know, kind of smiling.

00:13:13.000 There's Michelle and she's leaning back against the couch, wearing a formal gown.

00:13:16.000 Obama, of course, is the sort of casual JFK-esque appearance.

00:13:21.000 Here, it's painted with his face sort of half in shadow, almost the way that the JFK presidential portrait is.

00:13:25.000 That's not, I'm sure, any level of coincidence.

00:13:28.000 Portraits are fine.

00:13:29.000 That's fine.

00:13:30.000 But the bottom line is that when Obama comes back to the White House, he does so as a celebrity.

00:13:35.000 Obama literally was just handed an Emmy.

00:13:37.000 They gave him an Emmy.

00:13:38.000 So that means that we have now had two straight presidents.

00:13:43.000 Biden hasn't won an Emmy yet.

00:13:46.000 We now have two straight presidents who have won Emmys, which says something about where we are as a culture.

00:13:50.000 Donald Trump won an Emmy before he was president, right when he was doing The Apprentice.

00:13:54.000 And Barack Obama has now won an Emmy for the signal feat of reading narrative about America's national parks.

00:14:01.000 They're going to give this guy the EGOT before he's done, because again, he's a celebrity.

00:14:05.000 He's more in line with Jennifer Lawrence than he is in line with George Washington.

00:14:08.000 Here is CBS News reporting on this signal feat.

00:14:13.000 Obama won the Emmy for Outstanding Narrator on Sunday for his work in the Netflix documentary, Our Great National Parks, which is a wonderful series if you haven't seen it.

00:14:22.000 The five-part series, featuring national parks around the world, is produced by the Obama's production company, Higher Ground.

00:14:30.000 Okay, by the way, you think that he won that Emmy because so many people love that National Parks documentary?

00:14:36.000 Or do you think it's because they're all fans of Barack Obama?

00:14:38.000 By the way, I believe this is actually his second Emmy.

00:14:40.000 Didn't he win a Grammy?

00:14:42.000 He's now won an Emmy and a Grammy.

00:14:44.000 He won a Grammy for voicing his book or something.

00:14:48.000 So again, politicians and celebrities, the merger of that is really, really bad for American politics.

00:14:53.000 And then trying to transfer all of that momentum over to politics ends up with not only bad policy, but it also ends up with some real awkwardness because this sort of celebrity does not transfer over to Joe Biden.

00:15:02.000 Joe Biden is playing a messianic figure, but It just doesn't play.

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00:16:11.000 So, Joe Biden is there with Obama, and he talks about how he starts basically worshiping at the altar of Obama.

00:16:20.000 You know, we trusted him, all of you in this room.

00:16:24.000 We believed in him.

00:16:26.000 We counted on him.

00:16:28.000 And I still do.

00:16:30.000 That's why the country elected you twice.

00:16:31.000 That's why you'll be considered one of the most consequential presidents in our history.

00:16:38.000 My favorite thing, actually, about Barack Obama, there are not many things I like about Barack Obama as a president or as a human.

00:16:44.000 He seems like a good father and a good husband, but aside from those, which are important things, obviously, the most important thing, but the thing I actually like about Barack Obama is that he hates Joe Biden.

00:16:52.000 I mean, he hates him.

00:16:53.000 It's really, really funny. 0.97

00:16:55.000 Like, if you read the stories about what Obama thinks of Joe Biden, Like, they're all about how he's sneering at Joe Biden, just bloviating and his logaria, his diarrhea of the mouth.

00:17:04.000 Like, it's really, really funny stuff.

00:17:05.000 So the relationship between Obama and Joe, even though Joe is significantly older than Barack, right?

00:17:11.000 I mean, Joe Biden is now 80 years old.

00:17:14.000 Barack Obama, after having served two presidencies, he is still only 61 years old.

00:17:20.000 So he is two decades younger than the man who succeeded him.

00:17:23.000 And so Joe wants to treat Obama as the younger brother, but Obama just keeps dismissing him.

00:17:27.000 And it's really, really funny.

00:17:28.000 And every time Obama talks about Joe, it's with this sort of seething, just disdain for the guy.

00:17:32.000 So here is Barack Obama talking about Joe Biden.

00:17:35.000 This is casual Obama, by the way.

00:17:37.000 One of the most obnoxious forms of Obama.

00:17:39.000 There's formal Obama, there's campaign Obama, and there's casual Obama, where he just starts dropping the Gs.

00:17:39.000 There are many forms of Obama.

00:17:43.000 A lot of Gs just start dropping off the word.

00:17:45.000 It's not dropping.

00:17:47.000 It's dropping.

00:17:48.000 Here we go.

00:17:49.000 Someone once said that if you're looking for a friend in Washington, get a dog.

00:17:57.000 Our family was lucky enough to have two wonderful dogs.

00:18:02.000 But I was even luckier to have a chance to spend eight years working day and night with a man who became a true partner and a true friend.

00:18:15.000 Joe, it is now America's good fortune to have you as president.

00:18:22.000 Oh man, I am so happy he's not president anymore.

00:18:24.000 And I'm so sad that Joe Biden is currently our president.

00:18:29.000 I think one of the best moments here was was Barack Obama started thanking the staffers.

00:18:33.000 And he noted, by the way, all the staffers here used to work for me, because what he's really saying is all of Joe Biden's supposed feats of legislation.

00:18:41.000 Nobody believes it's Joe.

00:18:41.000 That's not Joe.

00:18:43.000 It's all the people who used to work for Obama.

00:18:44.000 This is just Obama's third term.

00:18:45.000 And here's Obama claiming credit.

00:18:47.000 As much as I miss our work together, what's been a special joy is to see what's happened since.

00:18:54.000 Because so many of you are doing amazing things, whether it's in government, in the private sector, in academia, or non-profits.

00:19:05.000 And I'm especially glad to see so many of you serving President Biden as well as you serve me.

00:19:15.000 By the way, just a question.

00:19:17.000 When you work for the executive branch, do you serve the president?

00:19:20.000 You serve at the pleasure of the president, but do you serve the president?

00:19:22.000 I thought you were supposed to serve the country, generally speaking.

00:19:26.000 That's a weird way of phrasing that.

00:19:29.000 You're serving Biden what you serve me.

00:19:32.000 But the media are there to... I do love when Barack Obama says, you know, in politics, you need a dog if you want a friend.

00:19:38.000 Or you could just have the media massaging your feet all day long as they continue to do.

00:19:43.000 That merger of celebrity and politics that started with Obama has not stopped.

00:19:46.000 The awkward thing for Joe Biden is that he can't merge celebrity and politics because, again, he has no star quality.

00:19:51.000 Joe Biden is only president because he was the person who was standing there barely alive while all of the socialists were fighting it out on the Democratic side of the aisle.

00:19:59.000 And Democrats were like, what if we nominate a dead person against Trump?

00:20:01.000 He'll probably win.

00:20:02.000 And it worked!

00:20:03.000 This is why you have Howard Stern begging people not to pay attention to the old man in the corner.

00:20:08.000 We got a president who can get legislation through even in the most partisan of times where we're polarized.

00:20:14.000 I wake up every morning. I never think about who's the president anymore.

00:20:19.000 I don't sit and read wackiness in the newspaper.

00:20:21.000 People go, he's too old.

00:20:22.000 He ain't too old!

00:20:24.000 He's doing fine.

00:20:25.000 Say yeah, job well done.

00:20:26.000 You're an executive, you're running the country, and it's running well.

00:20:30.000 Is everything perfect?

00:20:31.000 No. 0.57

00:20:32.000 To repair what the f*** went on here for the last four years is insane. 0.84

00:20:36.000 But we need a nation that's stable, that believes in government, that doesn't have conspiracy theories, and that's that.

00:20:43.000 And I hope Biden runs again.

00:20:45.000 I'll vote for him.

00:20:48.000 He hopes Biden runs again, he'll vote for him.

00:20:50.000 Again, they're going to have to talk their way through the Biden presidency because he just doesn't have the star quality now that we live in the new world.

00:20:57.000 The weird oddity of Joe Biden, of course, is that he combines the same disdain for the institutions that Barack Obama actually began, right?

00:21:03.000 Pen and phone Obama, ripping on Congress, ripping on the Supreme Court, all the rest of it.

00:21:07.000 He combines all of that with Zero star quality, like zero star power.

00:21:12.000 So Democrats are having to walk that one through.

00:21:14.000 But again, the transformation of American politics along celebrity lines, it's been a really, really bad thing.

00:21:21.000 And you can see it in every major politician that we've seen, pretty much on both sides of the aisle since Barack Obama came into office for solidly 14 years here in the United States.

00:21:31.000 So one of the other celebrity politicians who's been making her reappearance is, of course, Hillary Clinton. 0.63

00:21:36.000 Hillary Clinton, she is now making trailers.

00:21:39.000 She's now making full TV shows for Apple TV.

00:21:43.000 Do you think that she used politics as a platform?

00:21:45.000 You notice how she used it as a platform to build her persona? 1.00

00:21:47.000 Her persona is now that she gets paid, presumably a lot of money, by Apple TV for a series called Gutsy about how she is the gutsiest person who ever gutsied.

00:21:55.000 And the next gutsiest person is her daughter, who's also extraordinarily gutsy.

00:21:58.000 And both of them are just as gutsy as Megan Thee Stallion, who's also an extremely gutsy person. 0.99

00:22:04.000 Well, it's not just Barack Obama who's a celebrity politician.

00:22:06.000 It's also Hillary Clinton who is a celebrity politician.

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00:23:20.000 So Hillary Clinton is now releasing the series this week on Apple TV.

00:23:24.000 Again, politics as platform is very, very bad for politics.

00:23:28.000 So here is the trailer, a little bit of the trailer, for Hillary Clinton, gutsy. 0.99

00:23:32.000 Chelsea Clinton, just as gutsy. 0.97

00:23:34.000 And the most gutsy of all, Wanda Sykes. 0.95

00:23:35.000 Super gutsy women. 1.00

00:23:38.000 Take truth to power.

00:23:39.000 When I throw rocks, I'm throwing them up.

00:23:42.000 We bring balance to the world.

00:23:44.000 Oh my gosh, oh the requisite dancing clip.

00:23:47.000 It's a document, it's a documentary by Hillary about Hillary being gutsy. It's amazing.

00:24:12.000 One with yourself says Goldie Hawn man This series, it makes you want to, just the trailer makes you want to stick your head in an oven.

00:24:18.000 And it's just horrific stuff happening right here.

00:24:21.000 But again, that merger of celebrity and politics is the death of American politics because you're going to get people who are ineffective and whose stance is rooted in the idea that they are apart from the system.

00:24:31.000 The institutions are bad.

00:24:32.000 It's all about them.

00:24:33.000 And so this is what you have.

00:24:34.000 Hillary is now on The View.

00:24:36.000 The View is a perfect example of this, by the way. 0.97

00:24:38.000 You have a bunch of dunder-headed, low-IQ human beings talking about politics. 0.99

00:24:41.000 They spent five seconds reading a headline in the New York Times. 0.97

00:24:44.000 They don't even read to paragraph four in these stories.

00:24:47.000 And you have these women jabbering at each other in the most unintelligent possible way, and then bringing on supposedly serious political figures like Hillary Clinton to jabber with them. 1.00

00:24:56.000 So Hillary Clinton goes on The View yesterday and she starts, this is amazing, it's just incredible.

00:25:02.000 Here she is talking about how it's terrifying the fact that Donald Trump was keeping classified documents in Mar-a-Lago.

00:25:08.000 Terrifying!

00:25:09.000 Here we go.

00:25:11.000 This should be taken really seriously.

00:25:14.000 It's not a joking matter.

00:25:15.000 And it shouldn't be partisan.

00:25:16.000 And it shouldn't be partisan.

00:25:17.000 It should concern every American because Those documents in the empty folders, as they were marked, suggest that there was really important secret information that is essential to our country's defense and security.

00:25:37.000 And when the report came out yesterday that the documents also included information about we don't know which, an ally or an adversary's nuclear program, I cannot tell you how terrifying that is.

00:25:53.000 Yeah, I'm sure she was super terrified.

00:25:54.000 She looks terrified.

00:25:55.000 She looks absolutely terrified, Hillary Clinton.

00:25:57.000 By the way, I've noticed that you know when those documents did not actually leak into view is when they were in Donald Trump's closet.

00:26:05.000 You know when they did leak into view?

00:26:05.000 The minute the FBI grabbed them and leaked them to the Washington Post.

00:26:08.000 So there was that.

00:26:09.000 What was more terrifying?

00:26:10.000 The fact that they were in his closet or the fact that it was now on the front page of the Washington Post?

00:26:14.000 Pretty incredible stuff there.

00:26:15.000 Hillary continues along these lines. 0.53

00:26:17.000 People die to get government information.

00:26:19.000 I mean, people also die at U.S.

00:26:20.000 embassies that you fail to defend, but lots of people die, as it turns out.

00:26:25.000 Mysteriously.

00:26:26.000 Jeffrey Epstein didn't count.

00:26:27.000 Anyway, here's Hillary. 1.00

00:26:29.000 We don't have yet an understanding of what was in them.

00:26:32.000 We're getting little dribs and drabs like the nuclear posture of an ally or adversary.

00:26:38.000 But I do... I mean, people literally die to get our government information.

00:26:43.000 They go to prison.

00:26:45.000 They get exiled.

00:26:47.000 It's dangerous oftentimes.

00:26:49.000 And the idea that this would have been done, I hope everybody takes really seriously.

00:26:56.000 It is not some casual try to come up with some, you know, throwaway... It's not like an overdue library book.

00:27:03.000 No, not like an overdue library book.

00:27:06.000 I mean, what you should do with classified information is keep it on your private server, and then when you're asked to turn over that private server, you should probably bleach bit the thing.

00:27:12.000 Maybe drill some holes in it.

00:27:14.000 That's probably what you should do.

00:27:15.000 Hillary Clinton, by the way, is still out there claiming she had zero classified emails on her server, despite the fact that a 2018 Inspector General report found 193 emails that were classified sent to or from Hillary Clinton's server.

00:27:25.000 So, again, the merger of celebrity and politics, it results in bad celebrities and bad politics.

00:27:30.000 Shocker.

00:27:31.000 Well, this culminates in AOC.

00:27:34.000 Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez is a difference in degree but not in kind from Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. 0.99

00:27:42.000 She's essentially their sort of imagistic third generation child. 0.94

00:27:46.000 That's what she is.

00:27:48.000 She is a celebrity influencer who's in Congress.

00:27:52.000 She doesn't do anything useful in Congress.

00:27:54.000 She doesn't actually sponsor serious legislation. 1.00

00:27:55.000 People laugh at her legislation because it's stupid. 1.00

00:27:58.000 She does Instagram clips and she's on the cover of GQ this week. 1.00

00:28:03.000 She's on the cover of GQ.

00:28:04.000 Now, she's extraordinarily radical. 1.00

00:28:07.000 She hobnobs with anti-Semites and backs their play. 1.00

00:28:11.000 She is a socialist through and through, like identifies as such.

00:28:16.000 And she is the future of the Democratic Party, according to GQ.

00:28:18.000 And this is like a perfect confluence, this article.

00:28:20.000 It's also written by Wesley Lowry, who used to write for the Washington Post until they said, you know, you're so openly partisan, you can't be a reporter.

00:28:27.000 He's like, of course, I'm openly partisan.

00:28:28.000 That's called truth.

00:28:30.000 So now he's writing the profile piece on Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, and the entire piece is about what a victim she is.

00:28:37.000 She's a super giant victim, you see, who's using Congress as a platform for her to be on the cover of GQ. 1.00

00:28:42.000 GQ is a fashion magazine.

00:28:45.000 GQ stands for Gentlemen's Quarterly.

00:28:49.000 Does this have to do with politics or does this have to do with image making?

00:28:52.000 She's like, she is the apex predator when it comes to the merger of celebrity and politics.

00:28:57.000 Let me read again the preconditions to the destruction of American institutions from Yuval Levin, right?

00:29:03.000 Here are the elements.

00:29:04.000 You ready?

00:29:05.000 The lure of cynical distance and playing the outsider.

00:29:09.000 That is literally her entire shtick.

00:29:10.000 I'm an outsider.

00:29:12.000 I have to lead a movement.

00:29:13.000 The systems of politics are too confining for me.

00:29:18.000 The celebrity of culture.

00:29:20.000 People using the institutions, not as molds that ought to shape their behavior, but as platforms that allow them greater individual exposure and enable them to hone at their personal brands.

00:29:28.000 There's nothing that says personal brand more than being on the cover of GQ in very expensive clothing.

00:29:33.000 So she put out on her Instagram this statement, quote, I'm back after some rest time.

00:29:38.000 She was gone.

00:29:38.000 Really, I didn't even know because she's so unbelievably ubiquitous.

00:29:42.000 To tackle the issue of gender and politics, GQ decided to take some big risks.

00:29:48.000 So risky.

00:29:49.000 So brave.

00:29:50.000 So gutsy.

00:29:51.000 It's such a big risk to put AOC on the cover of a magazine.

00:29:53.000 No one's ever thought to do that before.

00:29:55.000 But why do Republicans care?

00:29:56.000 Why do you keep talking? 1.00

00:29:57.000 Because they keep putting her on magazine covers despite her zero legislative accomplishments and her idiotic Instagram page. 1.00

00:30:05.000 It's this singularly unintelligent and unimpressive legislator. 1.00

00:30:07.000 That's why you're the ones who elevate her and put her on magazine cover.

00:30:11.000 Me pointing out that she's on a magazine cover is not me starting the issue.

00:30:15.000 It's you starting the issue.

00:30:16.000 You make her an icon.

00:30:17.000 And then when I point out that you've made a bubble head, an icon, then suddenly you're like, wow, you can't notice that.

00:30:22.000 How are you noticing that? 0.51

00:30:23.000 It's this singularly unintelligent and unimpressive legislator.

00:30:29.000 She says to tackle the issue of gender in politics, GQ decided to take some big risks and featured their first female politician on their cover interviewed by one of the most prominent young black male journalists and top journalist.

00:30:41.000 Period of our time, Wesley Lowry, who again was kicked out of major publications for being a bias left winger with two legendary trans icons, photographing Wow.

00:30:52.000 Well, I mean.

00:30:53.000 Huge news guys!

00:30:54.000 Trans, they're not just trans people, they are trans icons who photographed and styled her of so many people to serve the celebrity.

00:31:01.000 The fight to restore abortion rights needs more than a few good men and a lot of good work ahead.

00:31:05.000 So men, let's talk.

00:31:08.000 The article itself is just a fawning piece of absolute tripe.

00:31:12.000 It's amazing.

00:31:14.000 It doesn't even pretend at anything other than utter worship.

00:31:17.000 Yesterday, we spent a bit of time on this show talking about an article in Vogue about Jennifer Lawrence.

00:31:23.000 It's the same article.

00:31:24.000 It's the same article.

00:31:26.000 Right?

00:31:26.000 Jennifer Lawrence talking about politics.

00:31:27.000 Is AOC talking about politics?

00:31:29.000 They are the same.

00:31:30.000 Is Meghan Markle talking about politics?

00:31:32.000 There is no difference between GQ featuring AOC and The Cut featuring Meghan Markle and Vogue featuring Jennifer Lawrence.

00:31:38.000 They are all part of the same celebrity clique.

00:31:40.000 That is who they are.

00:31:42.000 Pretending that this is serious politics is a lie.

00:31:44.000 These are not serious people.

00:31:46.000 They do not think two steps ahead.

00:31:47.000 They do not have the interest of the American people at heart.

00:31:50.000 What they have at heart is being on the cover of GQ.

00:31:52.000 What they have at heart is being celebrities.

00:31:55.000 And pretending that there's a difference in kind between Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, AOC, Jennifer Lawrence, Meghan Markle.

00:32:01.000 It's just not true.

00:32:02.000 Which is why Meghan Markle thinks maybe she should run for office someday, despite the fact that her entire political resume is, I was a B-list actress on Suits, and then I married into a royal family that I crapped upon. 0.80

00:32:12.000 There's no difference between her and AOC.

00:32:13.000 The same.

00:32:14.000 The same in terms of politics, in terms of image.

00:32:16.000 These are all part of a piece.

00:32:18.000 This is not the way politics was supposed to work.

00:32:20.000 Politics was supposed to be a boring business.

00:32:23.000 For lawyers who basically put together legislation to tinker around the edges of our civilization.

00:32:31.000 It was not meant to be a bunch of people who get very famous and very, very rich off of the institutions that have created the ability for Americans to be free.

00:32:42.000 That is not what these institutions were built for.

00:32:44.000 So Wesley Lowry has this entire just fawning piece.

00:32:48.000 And implicit in this entire piece are all of the Evolvin warnings.

00:32:53.000 All of them.

00:32:54.000 A person who's outside the system, who yells about the system, believes the system is bad.

00:32:57.000 A person who makes it her personal mission to use the system as a platform for her own celebrity quote.

00:33:03.000 For her first two years in Washington, Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez walked the few blocks from her apartment to her congressional office nearly every morning, a routine she felt forced to change after a treasonous mob stormed the Capitol.

00:33:13.000 Now she drives most days.

00:33:14.000 A comically short commute, she considers a necessary safety precaution.

00:33:17.000 No comment on the fact that she parks her Tesla outside of Whole Foods.

00:33:20.000 But for some reason, she's not quite sure why.

00:33:22.000 The congresswoman decided to walk to work on what would become Washington's most tumultuous morning since the insurrection.

00:33:27.000 She's not quite sure why.

00:33:28.000 Everyone knew Roe vs. Wade was coming down that day.

00:33:30.000 Maybe it was that.

00:33:32.000 But, says the Completely credulous, Wesley Lowery.

00:33:35.000 No, no, no.

00:33:35.000 It was all a coincidence.

00:33:36.000 As she reached the Capitol grounds on June 24th, a group of men stopped her for a photo.

00:33:40.000 I said, hello, and how are you all doing?

00:33:42.000 She'd recall later.

00:33:43.000 They're like, well, you know, definitely been a lot better given this morning.

00:33:46.000 This was how the Congresswoman learned that the Supreme Court had gutted the constitutional right to abortion established by Roe versus Wade. 0.98

00:33:52.000 The ruling had been anticipated for weeks after a draft opinion from the court's conservative faction leaked, but somehow much of Washington still managed to appear blindsided.

00:34:02.000 Out on the steps of the Capitol, a group of lawmakers gathered to sing God Bless America, a pre-planned photo op that now Red is hopelessly out of touch.

00:34:08.000 Angry Americans were spilling into the streets, and elected Democrats were singing campfire songs.

00:34:12.000 Ocasio-Cortez knew where she needed to be.

00:34:14.000 It wasn't at a sing-along.

00:34:17.000 So, um, she went to a protest.

00:34:20.000 Right?

00:34:20.000 She didn't need to be at Congress, putting together legislation to fix what she perceived as a problem.

00:34:25.000 Nope!

00:34:26.000 She needed to be at the Supreme Court, yelling in front of the cameras. 0.99

00:34:30.000 This is what celebrities do, gang.

00:34:31.000 It's no different than Sean Penn arriving at a protest and speaking into a bullhorn.

00:34:36.000 Sometimes people ask, oh, what's the point of protest?

00:34:38.000 She told me later, recalling that day.

00:34:40.000 The act of protest, she said, creates community and participation by political leaders sends a message.

00:34:45.000 It's really important for people to feel like their elected officials give a bleep about them, she said.

00:34:48.000 Not from on high.

00:34:49.000 I'm on the same level.

00:34:51.000 Or alternatively, it's really important for you to go where all the cameras are and stand in front of that crowd and pretend that you're one of the people who you are now living a very cush life off taxpayer money to quote-unquote represent.

00:35:01.000 I'd arrived at the Supreme Court a few minutes before Ocasio-Cortez said Wesley Lowry to interview protesters and watched as she maneuvered in her plaid pink pantsuit. 1.00

00:35:08.000 It was all coincidence what she was wearing that day.

00:35:11.000 A plaid pink pantsuit.

00:35:12.000 Total coincidence.

00:35:13.000 Past a small circle of anti-abortion demonstrators and then waded into the sea of women and men who gathered to mourn.

00:35:18.000 Soon she was speaking into a borrowed megaphone, hoping to lead the call and response.

00:35:22.000 Into the streets, Ocasio-Cortez shouted, pumping a clenched fist in the air.

00:35:25.000 Within minutes, a sobbing young woman found the congresswoman and threw herself into her arms. 1.00

00:35:29.000 I'm so scared, she wept.

00:35:31.000 I'm so scared.

00:35:33.000 Of what?

00:35:34.000 Of what?

00:35:36.000 But it made for a perfect photo op for Wesley Lowry.

00:35:39.000 I love that.

00:35:39.000 He's criticizing the Democrats for gathering on the steps of the Capitol to sing God Bless America as a photo op.

00:35:44.000 So she went to another photo op.

00:35:46.000 And she's shouting into the streets.

00:35:48.000 Wait, aren't you an elected representative in the most powerful legislative body in world history?

00:35:53.000 Shouldn't you be doing that?

00:35:54.000 Why are you out there shouting into the streets?

00:35:56.000 Because again, it's not about getting things done.

00:35:58.000 It's not about politics.

00:35:59.000 It's about platform building.

00:36:00.000 That's all it's about.

00:36:01.000 The institutions are the enemy. 0.83

00:36:03.000 Well, this ridiculous GQ piece continues. 0.99

00:36:06.000 This soporific, sophomoric, sycophantic, Ridiculous GQPs. 1.00

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00:38:07.000 All right, so we are going through this GQ cover piece on AOC, who indeed is sort of the culmination of the merger of celebrity and politics in our society, which really spells the end of a serious America.

00:38:16.000 It does.

00:38:16.000 I'm sorry.

00:38:17.000 There are actual serious people in the world today who make aggressive moves against the United States. 1.00

00:38:21.000 And we have decided instead to delegate the most powerful country in world history with the most robust constitutional system in world history to a bunch of dunderheaded idiots who seek celebrity status. 1.00

00:38:31.000 That is what we have decided to do. 1.00

00:38:33.000 You had Xi Jinping seeking full authoritarian rule in China and aggressively seeking to expand his borders.

00:38:37.000 You have Vladimir Putin who's aggressively expanding his borders in Ukraine.

00:38:40.000 And you have a bunch of celebrity politicians in the West who have decided that their main goal is to speak about the Green New Deal and or appear on Emmy broadcasts.

00:38:51.000 We are not a serious civilization.

00:38:52.000 We just are not.

00:38:53.000 And AOC is the culmination of that.

00:38:55.000 Again, I'm not saying that AOC started this.

00:38:57.000 She didn't.

00:38:58.000 AOC is essentially the ideological Child of people like Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton, the attempt by the left to merge celebrity and politics.

00:39:09.000 So this piece by Wesley Lowry is just the ultimate example of this.

00:39:13.000 She's again, she's on the cover of GQ quote.

00:39:14.000 For a fleeting moment in front of the Supreme Court, it was possible to see the full, complicated public totality of the woman we've come to know as AOC, a 32 year old second term Congresswoman representing one of the country's most diverse districts by diverse districts. 0.78

00:39:26.000 He means racially diverse, not ideologically diverse.

00:39:28.000 It's universally Democrat, a certified celebrity.

00:39:31.000 Arguably more famous than any other person in American politics without the last name Obama or Trump.

00:39:35.000 Beloved and loathed at competing ends of the political spectrum.

00:39:38.000 Constitutionally opposed to sitting down, shutting up, and conforming to the patriotic play theater of Washington.

00:39:44.000 The right-wing's night terror in the flesh.

00:39:49.000 We're not afraid of AOC as a human. 1.00

00:39:53.000 We're afraid of her crap ideas being implemented. 1.00

00:39:56.000 And we're sort of afraid of the fact that the entire media lick her boots despite the fact that she's a radical who stands for wrecking all of the major institutions. 0.99

00:40:03.000 To many foot soldiers of the fractured, contradictory coalition that is the progressive left, she represents something singular.

00:40:08.000 The future, says Wesley Lowry.

00:40:10.000 Man, Pravda couldn't have written this better.

00:40:12.000 A revolutionary on the rise.

00:40:14.000 A revolutionary.

00:40:16.000 She's an elected official, by the way.

00:40:17.000 Your elected officials are not supposed to be revolutionaries.

00:40:20.000 That's not what that job is for.

00:40:21.000 The clear air to an ascendant progressive movement, the best and possibly last, depending on how quickly some of the combination of fascism, religious fundamentalism, and climate change comes for us all, chants a source of hope that things can get better in their lifetimes.

00:40:35.000 A lot of that was about human need.

00:40:36.000 Ocasio-Cortez said of why she took to the streets that day about providing just a very real position that this is not over and we're not giving up.

00:40:43.000 You are in control of Congress.

00:40:45.000 Democrats are in control of the Congress of the United States and the Senate and the presidency.

00:40:50.000 Go back to your office, lady. 1.00

00:40:53.000 But she's not.

00:40:54.000 She's out in the streets because this is all about platform building.

00:40:58.000 That's the entire thing.

00:40:59.000 And of course, it's all about how she is a moral exemplar.

00:41:03.000 And we know she's a moral exemplar because she's on GQ's cover, obviously. 0.96

00:41:06.000 That's how you know she's a moral exemplar.

00:41:10.000 In those weeks after Rose's demise, Ocasio-Cortez was ubiquitous.

00:41:13.000 Actually, she's been ubiquitous literally since she entered Congress, at rallies and on TV demanding that her colleagues move with urgency to protect access to reproductive health services, calling on men in particular to share their stories of how they had benefited from decades of legally protected abortion.

00:41:27.000 I love that now men are supposed to speak about abortion. 0.90

00:41:29.000 So before, if you're a man who opposes AOC, you're supposed to sit down and shut up. 0.92

00:41:34.000 Because you're a man. 0.90

00:41:35.000 Men aren't supposed to talk.

00:41:36.000 If you're a man who backs AOC's agenda, then you're supposed to talk.

00:41:39.000 By the way, she really revealed something truly ugly about the pro-choice movement, the radical pro-choice movement that she represents here.

00:41:45.000 This is a quote for her about abortion.

00:41:48.000 Get ready for this.

00:41:48.000 Quote, for almost every woman that has gotten an abortion, there's a man who's either been affected or liberated by that abortion too.

00:41:57.000 You're saying the quiet part out loud there.

00:41:59.000 A lot of men like killing babies because it liberates them. 0.95

00:42:03.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:42:04.000 Awkward.

00:42:05.000 But she says that men should speak out about abortion now.

00:42:08.000 And she has some ideas about gender.

00:42:11.000 She says, quote, I think there's plenty of well-meaning reasons why men may feel it's not appropriate for them to talk about it.

00:42:15.000 I think sometimes the way white folks don't like to talk about race and they say we just want to censor the person who's most impacted.

00:42:20.000 So it's not my role to do anything or take a space and speak up.

00:42:23.000 But we know that when white folks take up space and say the right thing in rooms of other white people, that is the most shifting activity that can happen.

00:42:30.000 More sometimes than any protest or any person writing a letter to the editor or anything like that.

00:42:33.000 We need men to be speaking up in that way as well.

00:42:36.000 But I think men sometimes they think, I'm not a woman.

00:42:38.000 This doesn't affect me the most.

00:42:39.000 I love the double standard here from people like AOC.

00:42:41.000 It's the same as Ibram X. Kendi. 0.99

00:42:43.000 Shut up if you're a white person and you're in the room with a black person and you're talking about race. 1.00

00:42:46.000 Shut your face. 1.00

00:42:47.000 If you're a man, you're in a room with a woman and abortion comes up, you shut your face. 1.00

00:42:51.000 But if you represent our message to other white people, then the power is with you. 0.75

00:42:55.000 And if the system fails to change, well, that's your fault because you kept quiet.

00:42:59.000 And then Ocasio-Cortez starts lecturing men about what masculinity means, which is just hysterical.

00:43:05.000 I'm sorry, that's just really, really funny.

00:43:07.000 She's a 32-year-old woman who just got married and has no children, who is lecturing men about what it means to be a man. 0.97

00:43:15.000 Sorry if I take that with a grain of salt.

00:43:18.000 Men keep quiet, Ocasio-Cortez pointed out, because of the burdens and antiquated expectations of masculinity.

00:43:23.000 Feminist writers and thinkers have raised this notion for decades, pointing out how men themselves are victimized by toxic societal constructs.

00:43:29.000 Oh, I need a lecture from Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez about ideal masculinity. 1.00

00:43:35.000 Yeah, sure.

00:43:36.000 Men suffer from being under the patriarchy, the congresswoman said.

00:43:39.000 They don't go to the doctor.

00:43:40.000 They suffer from much higher rates of completed suicides.

00:43:42.000 Even though they report lower levels of depression, that doesn't mean they suffer from it less.

00:43:47.000 The key to combating stigma of men being vulnerable, I think sometimes it's really powerful for men to share their stories of growth.

00:43:54.000 Men need to dive into their compassion, into their sadness, into their insecurity, and explore it, and work through it.

00:43:59.000 I can barely make it through this quote without vomiting.

00:44:01.000 How about men need to man up. 0.90

00:44:03.000 Men need to be responsible. 1.00

00:44:04.000 Men need to protect. 0.81

00:44:06.000 Men need to defend. 0.98

00:44:07.000 But no, it's not about that.

00:44:08.000 It's not about that for AOC. 0.92

00:44:09.000 Because of course, she is a thot. 1.00

00:44:13.000 By the way, she is asked in this piece about running for president, and she says that she is concerned about being president because actually it's really hard to be president.

00:44:23.000 She says that she might run at some point, but there's so many obstacles.

00:44:29.000 So many obstacles, quote, could Obama have gotten elected without the kind of financial support she had, that he had?

00:44:33.000 I don't know.

00:44:34.000 Even if she were theoretically to become president, then what?

00:44:37.000 She'd face a system from the Supreme Court to the Senate, both empowered and inclined to thwart her most sweeping ambitions. 0.99

00:44:42.000 There are plenty of limitations, she said.

00:44:43.000 It's tough.

00:44:44.000 It's really tough.

00:44:46.000 Because again, she doesn't want to be responsible for actual policy.

00:44:48.000 She wants to be a person who grows all of her membership lists and make a lot of money and complain about how America is unjust. 1.00

00:44:55.000 That's what she, and so we have an unserious political class Leading, apparently, an unserious people who believe that these folks are actual leaders.

00:45:04.000 Alrighty, guys, the rest of the show is continuing now.

00:45:05.000 You don't want to miss it because we are going to be getting into Whoopi Goldberg defending election denial on the part of the current White House press secretary and we'll bring you the story of a Democratic politician who actually murdered a journalist.

00:45:17.000 Now, that would be front page news nearly everywhere.

00:45:19.000 If it were the opposite party, it is not.

00:45:21.000 We'll get into that.

The Ben Shapiro Show - September 08, 2022

The Age Of AOC | Ep. 1570

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