The Ben Shapiro Show - October 22, 2026


The Ilhan Omar Case Just Got More Damning. Here's the Update.

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00:00:00.000 Who was this man that was your husband?
00:00:02.000 When did they start saying that he was your brother?
00:00:04.000 Why?
00:00:06.000 It started with the Somali blog that I don't know if it still exists, but somebody put in there that he had to have been my brother or something to that effect.
00:00:18.000 And right wing conspiracy theorists in Minneapolis got a hold of it and they just kind of went and found random people who were like, she introduced us.
00:00:31.000 She introduced him to us and said he was her brother.
00:00:35.000 Which is, you know, insane.
00:00:37.000 I mean, I don't know those people that they talk about.
00:00:42.000 You were not related to him at all.
00:00:43.000 Not that much.
00:00:44.000 There's not some weird kernel of truth that threw some game at you.
00:00:47.000 Not to my knowledge.
00:00:49.000 Yeah, right there.
00:00:50.000 That was Ilhan Omar being asked if she married her own brother.
00:00:54.000 And her answer was, and I quote, not to my knowledge.
00:01:01.000 I'm pretty sure the answer there should be no, unless it's kind of yes.
00:01:07.000 How do you marry your brother without your knowledge?
00:01:09.000 Are we doing Oedipus Rex here?
00:01:10.000 Like, what's happening?
00:01:18.000 So, Ilhan Omar is a habitual liar.
00:01:21.000 And actually, if you look at her family history, it is pretty clear why that is and what she has done.
00:01:26.000 Remember, there's an ongoing investigation into her immigration status.
00:01:29.000 We believe there are some documents that have emerged that shed new light on exactly what the federal government is investigating.
00:01:35.000 Why is all of this important?
00:01:36.000 Because, again, there are people in the United States who have taken advantage of the system.
00:01:41.000 They've taken advantage of the system by engaging in fraud.
00:01:43.000 They've taken advantage of the system by importing foreign ideologies into the United States and then militarizing American self hatred against the United States.
00:01:51.000 And Ilhan Omar is at the top of this list.
00:01:53.000 It all ties together lying to gain entry, lying to maintain status, lying to gain entry to Congress, lying in order to destroy the United States.
00:02:03.000 That is what Representative Ilhan Omar has always been about.
00:02:06.000 Remember, this is a woman who literally wrote a letter to a judge trying to get a lesser prison sentence for a man trying to join ISIS.
00:02:12.000 So.
00:02:13.000 Let's talk about what she's talking about in this clip and do a little bit of family history on Representative Ilhan Omar, because we've been told by Barack Obama and Zarn Mamdani, among others, that she's being unfairly targeted over her immigration status.
00:02:24.000 But there are a lot of very open questions about that.
00:02:27.000 And again, that clip is the worst answer to a question about some form of familial scandal, since it depends on the definition of is.
00:02:39.000 I mean, that's an insane answer.
00:02:42.000 Are you related to the man you married?
00:02:44.000 Was he your brother?
00:02:45.000 Not to my knowledge.
00:02:47.000 Does she have a lawyer in the back room writing that for her?
00:02:50.000 Not to my knowledge.
00:02:51.000 Okay, the reason she is saying that is because, I mean, the evidence tends to show that she was very, very likely married to her brother.
00:02:58.000 Not because she was, you know, shlipping her brother or something, God forbid, but because she was trying to gain him immigration status.
00:03:04.000 But again, it seems that immigration fraud, or at least questions about immigration fraud, may run in the family.
00:03:11.000 So Ilhan Omar was born in Mogadishu, Somalia, in either 1981 or 1982.
00:03:17.000 We don't actually know the answer.
00:03:18.000 Her original birthday.
00:03:20.000 According to her Minnesota House of Representatives website, it was 1981.
00:03:25.000 We'll talk in a minute about why she changed her birth date, apparently.
00:03:29.000 Elaine Omar's dad was a high ranking military colonel under the Marxist military dictatorship of Saeed Barre, which again runs counter to his refugee status under U.S. law.
00:03:38.000 Because if you fled and you're a member of a dictatorship that engaged in human rights violations, typically we don't give you refugee status, which may explain why her last name was Omar when she came to the United States.
00:03:51.000 I'll just explain that in one second.
00:03:52.000 So, in 1991, when she was either 10 or 9, depending on which date we are using for her birth, she and her family relocated to Kenya during the Somali Civil War.
00:04:03.000 In 1995, she and her family received refugee status and immigrated to the United States, first to Arlington, Virginia, and then to Minneapolis, Minnesota.
00:04:10.000 Now, it is possible that Omar did not enter under her true lineage.
00:04:14.000 Her father's surname is Elmi, not Omar, Elmi.
00:04:19.000 So, why exactly would she be using a name like Omar, like an unrelated family name?
00:04:23.000 Well, the allegation is that.
00:04:24.000 Members of her family, some of them went to the UK and they used the name Elmi.
00:04:28.000 The rest of the family that went to the United States used the name Omar in order to use that family's refugee status to gain their own refugee status.
00:04:35.000 That's the allegation made by Scott Johnson at Powerline, who's uncovered a ton of this.
00:04:40.000 So herein lies problem number one.
00:04:42.000 Did she come here through her father and through her parents?
00:04:45.000 And when she came here, was her dad using a sort of assumed name or a different familial name?
00:04:52.000 Well, the timeline gets murkier.
00:04:53.000 We will go through all of the facts because the facts are the things that you should care about.
00:04:58.000 Now, When it comes to the American dream, the facts matter as well.
00:05:02.000 Everybody has an opinion about the American dream, whether it's alive, whether it's dying, whether the government is helping people achieve it or making it harder.
00:05:07.000 Before we argue about the answers, we should probably understand the numbers.
00:05:11.000 Income inequality, entitlements, housing costs.
00:05:14.000 What is the government actually doing?
00:05:15.000 What does it cost?
00:05:16.000 Who's benefiting?
00:05:17.000 Those are the questions behind my debate on the American dream with left of center, Scott Galloway.
00:05:21.000 The debate is framed by an informative set of government facts from USA facts.
00:05:25.000 Then Scott and I get into what those numbers mean, where we think the country should go from here.
00:05:29.000 Because agreeing on the facts doesn't mean agreeing on the policy.
00:05:32.000 You can look at the same data and reach very different conclusions.
00:05:34.000 And that's where the debate gets interesting.
00:05:36.000 There are sharp differences, common ground, and actual discussion beyond the usual political sound bites and rehearsed talking points.
00:05:41.000 Watch it.
00:05:42.000 Way the arguments come away knowing more.
00:05:44.000 Check out the full debate right now on USA Facts YouTube channel.
00:05:49.000 Already has several million views.
00:05:51.000 Be one of them.
00:05:51.000 Go check it out, USA Facts YouTube channel.
00:05:53.000 Okay, so in 2000, Omar becomes a naturalized US citizen through her father's citizenship process.
00:06:00.000 Now, allegedly, she was 17 if she was born in 1982.
00:06:03.000 As we will find out, she changed her birth date to 1982 from 1981.
00:06:07.000 If she was 18, then she would have not been eligible for naturalization via her dad's naturalization.
00:06:12.000 Again, all of this is downstream of our horrible immigration policy in which we just handed out citizenship like candy.
00:06:18.000 Now we get to her, um, her marital issues.
00:06:22.000 So in 2002, she was in a religious union with Ahmed Hersi.
00:06:26.000 Didn't have a civil marriage.
00:06:28.000 So according to American civil law, they weren't married.
00:06:30.000 According to Muslim religious law, they were, and they had a couple of kids.
00:06:33.000 In 2008, She underwent a Muslim separation from Ahmed Hirsi.
00:06:38.000 The next year, she had a civil marriage with Ahmed Nur Saeed Elmi in Minnesota.
00:06:44.000 Now, you will recall that it is quite possible that her original name, and now according to DOJ search documents, her actual name is Elmi.
00:06:54.000 Now, you may say, wait a second, wait a second.
00:06:56.000 Didn't she?
00:06:57.000 You just said she married a dude named Ahmed Nur Saeed Elmi.
00:07:00.000 And now you're also telling me that actually her last name is Elmi.
00:07:05.000 Correct.
00:07:07.000 Correct.
00:07:09.000 So, Elmi filed a marriage based petition to gain permanent U.S. residency.
00:07:14.000 When federal immigration authorities asked for evidence that he should actually gain citizenship via his marriage, Elmi withdrew his petition.
00:07:25.000 So, they were trying to sneak one in, right?
00:07:27.000 They were trying to get away with one.
00:07:28.000 Okay, in 2012, while she was still in a civil marriage with Ahmed Nur Saeed Elmi, who is very likely her brother, she reconciled with Ahmed Hersi and they had a third child.
00:07:42.000 She was legally divorced civilly from Ahmed Sur Saeed Elmi, who is likely her brother, in 2017.
00:07:49.000 She submitted an affidavit stating she had not had contact with Elmi since 2011, but there are 2014 2015 social media interactions and contacts in London which would render her affidavit to be perjury.
00:08:02.000 So, as Benjamin Weingarten, who is a senior contributor at the Federalist, points out, The documents that were filed to unseal ex parte materials and proceedings related to the federal search warrant show that she is listed as Ilhan Noor Saeed Elmi, aka Ilhan Abdullahi Omar.
00:08:25.000 Again, remember, the alleged brother's name is Ahmed Noor Saeed Elmi.
00:08:32.000 Her name is Ilhan Noor Saeed Elmi.
00:08:35.000 According to Weingarten, in September 2019, Omar deleted a 2013 post wishing Noor Saeed a happy Father's Day.
00:08:43.000 In Somali naming convention, children are given a first name followed by their father's first and middle names.
00:08:47.000 If Omar's father is Noor Saeed Elmi Muhammad, it would follow that his children's names would end in Noor Saeed Elmi.
00:08:55.000 Deleted pictures on social media put Ilhan Omar alongside what appears to be Leila Elmi and Ilhan's father in 2011 in Kenya.
00:09:03.000 Ilhan Omar reappeared next to Leila in 2015 in London in a photograph with text superimposed over it reading, I heart my sisters, with hashtags sisterhood and London trip in the caption.
00:09:15.000 A fall 2016 profile from the local Twin Cities Pages publication referred to Representative Omar's father as Nur Saeed Elmi Muhammad before later changing it.
00:09:25.000 And meanwhile, her alleged husband, right?
00:09:29.000 Ahmed Nur Saeed Elmi.
00:09:32.000 It turns out in 2012, he posted a picture of himself holding his baby niece.
00:09:39.000 This would be one day after Omar's daughter was born.
00:09:41.000 Quote, nieces fresh out of the vagina.
00:09:44.000 He seems like a charmer, by the way.
00:09:47.000 So that would be her registered husband under American law calling the baby his niece.
00:09:55.000 Flashback 2017.
00:09:57.000 Here is Omar with Elmi in London.
00:09:59.000 After she sworn to oath, she didn't know anybody in Elmi's family.
00:10:04.000 Oh, look at that.
00:10:06.000 Weird.
00:10:08.000 So, what else do we know about Ahmed Elmi?
00:10:09.000 Well, we know that according to the University of Bristol, in 2025, he served on the programming and curatorial team for Gala Queer Archives Margins for Error exhibition on queer African art, film, and publishing.
00:10:22.000 He is currently completing his doctoral thesis, provisionally titled Bravery Amidst Brutality A Queer Resistance to Violence and Criminalization in Contemporary Kenya.
00:10:31.000 In December, the New York Post reported he had resurfaced in South Africa while calling himself a dirty dandy on social media.
00:10:39.000 So, yeah, he's almost certainly gay.
00:10:43.000 I mean, here are some pictures of her alleged second husband.
00:10:47.000 Okay, here he is.
00:10:50.000 That's not the straightest stuff we've ever seen, right there.
00:10:54.000 So, in 2018, she was legally remarried to Ahmed Hersey in Minnesota, and then she was elected to Congress.
00:11:04.000 And shortly after taking office, she then corrected her birth year to 1982 to backfill the fact that allegedly she's been lying on all of her passports and immigration forms since she tried to gain citizenship illegally via her father.
00:11:15.000 In 2019, she was legally divorced from Ahmed Hersey.
00:11:18.000 In 2020, she was married to Tim Minette, a political consultant paid by Omar's campaign for his services, and Minette divorced his prior wife to marry Ilhan Omar.
00:11:28.000 So, if you're wondering why she said not to my knowledge, the answer is because to her knowledge, she was almost certainly married to her brother.
00:11:35.000 So that would not amount to a deportation event, right?
00:11:39.000 I mean, if she committed, essentially, there are a bunch of different charges that are getting conflated here.
00:11:45.000 Okay.
00:11:45.000 One is, did she come over with her family legally in the first place?
00:11:48.000 Two is, did she gain her citizenship legally because she was allegedly a person of age of majority at the time that she was claiming minor status to gain citizenship via dad?
00:11:58.000 Question three is, did she marry her brother in order to try to gain citizenship status for her brother?
00:12:04.000 And then question four would be, What sort of fraud was she engaging in when she was allegedly engaged in bigamous relationships, right?
00:12:10.000 Because she was legally married to this one guy, but then she was religiously married to this other guy without divorcing the first guy legally.
00:12:18.000 All of this is rather dicey, you might think.
00:12:21.000 You also might think that this is part and parcel of a person who hates the United States, is perfectly willing to abuse literally all of its systems for personal benefit and for familial benefit, and then turn around and undermine the United States, which is what Ilhan Omar is.
00:12:33.000 That is what she represents.
00:12:35.000 She represents a strain of American immigration that never should have been allowed in the country in the first place.
00:12:42.000 Now she's asking for donations because it's an expensive and challenging time.
00:12:45.000 So, why don't we let's load up the vocal fry?
00:12:51.000 We know that they're running scared.
00:12:52.000 We're not going to be intimidated.
00:12:54.000 We're not going to be silenced.
00:12:55.000 We're not going to be scared.
00:12:56.000 I'll be out there campaigning alongside all of you and making sure that we beat back all of this and that we win in the midterms, win the House, win the Senate, and hold this administration accountable.
00:13:09.000 Thank you so much again.
00:13:11.000 And please continue to support us.
00:13:13.000 It is going to be a very expensive and challenging time.
00:13:18.000 And so we appreciate whether you're able to send five, 10, 20.
00:13:22.000 Thank you.
00:13:22.000 Well, I mean, she also registered apparently in her taxes that she was worth $30 million.
00:13:29.000 And then she revised that down to like $30,000.
00:13:31.000 So which is it?
00:13:32.000 She says now that she's living paycheck to paycheck.
00:13:35.000 Cool.
00:13:36.000 So what is she on government?
00:13:37.000 She's on government handouts.
00:13:38.000 I mean, she's got a salary as a congressperson.
00:13:41.000 What is your financial situation?
00:13:43.000 I mean, it's.
00:13:44.000 You know, working, working class, I guess, like paycheck to paycheck still.
00:13:48.000 You know, we've got four kids.
00:13:50.000 Um, and, you know, we, we live, I think, like a basic life.
00:13:55.000 I, I have a Toyota Camry that's from 2016.
00:13:58.000 It's our only car.
00:14:00.000 Um, I rent my D.C. place and my Minneapolis place.
00:14:05.000 And so, I don't, I mean, I don't know if that sounds like, you know, not majority of Congress, but there's some of us that are, that don't come from wealth and don't have wealth.
00:14:15.000 Oh, she's a victim, you see.
00:14:16.000 She's a victim of American society.
00:14:19.000 Now, this whole story is important for a couple of reasons.
00:14:21.000 The first is the use of immigration in order to get people in the country who should not be here.
00:14:25.000 The second is lying on behalf of a radical anti American political perspective, which she also does.
00:14:30.000 And we are seeing the consequence of this in America, as we'll talk about.
00:14:33.000 We're also seeing it in France.
00:14:36.000 There's a reason why people are deeply upset about Somali immigration in Minnesota, given the fact that the vast majority of families in Minnesota of Somali origin are actually on some form of welfare.
00:14:47.000 And yet, here is Jacob Fry trying again.
00:14:49.000 The way that you work this politically is to import a large chunk of people from a place that is foreign to the United States with a foreign ideology, turn them into a voting block, and then you'll have left wing politicians eating out of your hand in order to try and cobble together a coalition using your voting block.
00:15:06.000 That's what Jacob Fry is doing in Minnesota as he explains that actually at Somali networking night, he says that the Somalis are the CEOs of right now.
00:15:17.000 Are they though?
00:15:20.000 And I think one of the reasons that they were coming after you is they saw the kind of economy and entrepreneurship that you're helping to build.
00:15:32.000 They saw suddenly that the CEOs of the future are not all going to look like me.
00:15:41.000 The CEOs of the future are going to be from a thousand different backgrounds.
00:15:46.000 And so suddenly, you all are creeping up in brilliant fashion.
00:15:51.000 You're not just the CEOs and entrepreneurs of tomorrow, but of right now.
00:15:57.000 Okay.
00:16:00.000 Okay, then.
00:16:01.000 I'm just going to read you a few statistics about the Somali community in Minnesota.
00:16:05.000 According to the Center for Immigration Studies, approximately 81% of all Somali headed households in Minnesota receive at least one form of means tested welfare or public assistance.
00:16:14.000 Households with kids, that rises to 89%.
00:16:17.000 89%.
00:16:19.000 54% of these households are on food stamps.
00:16:22.000 73% are on Medicaid.
00:16:25.000 Long term residents, meaning 10 plus years in the U.S., 78% are still utilizing some form of assistance.
00:16:31.000 By comparison, 21% of native headed households in Minnesota are using some form of welfare.
00:16:38.000 So, no, that's actually not why people are particularly upset about all of this.
00:16:44.000 There's a reason that Ilhan Omar is a representative of the district for which she is the representative.
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00:17:57.000 Speaking of people who lie routinely, who are associated with foreign ideologies, speaking of people who should be nowhere near a congressional seat, let alone a seat in the Senate.
00:18:06.000 Abdurrahman El Sayed is running a neck and neck race in Michigan.
00:18:10.000 He had a debate last night with Mike Rogers.
00:18:12.000 It did not go well for El Sayed because he is far too radical for the population.
00:18:17.000 He also happens to be deeply in bed with radical Islam as an ideology.
00:18:23.000 He is a liar.
00:18:25.000 By the way, he's radical on all issues because, again, the basic premise for people like Elhan Omar and Abdul El Sayed is that the United States is wrong and evil and basically needs to be dismantled wholesale.
00:18:34.000 Here's Abdul Rahman El Sayed saying we need to dismantle ICE, for example.
00:18:40.000 I believe that we don't need ICE.
00:18:41.000 In fact, we can go back to INS, back when we were a lot more safe and secure.
00:18:45.000 When it came to immigration.
00:18:46.000 And then we need to make sure we have a clear pathway to citizenship.
00:18:51.000 Okay, so clear pathway to citizenship and get rid of ICE.
00:18:54.000 That is his plan.
00:18:56.000 Mike Rogers, who again, Mike Rogers is not an extraordinarily great debater, but he can say basically true things.
00:19:03.000 Here he was listing all the things Al Sayed has lied about.
00:19:08.000 Ask somebody, a new investigator, about how you figure out if somebody's honest and willing to tell you the truth.
00:19:13.000 You go through a series of questions.
00:19:15.000 Did you lie on your resume?
00:19:16.000 Yep, did.
00:19:17.000 He lied about being a physician.
00:19:19.000 Did he lie about his relationships with an organization that should give us all pause?
00:19:24.000 Yep, he did.
00:19:25.000 He lied about being an Egyptian dual citizen.
00:19:27.000 He lied about some of his stances on these positions as he's flipped again.
00:19:33.000 This is a pattern that we need to understand for this to trust this candidate.
00:19:40.000 Well, that is exactly right.
00:19:41.000 Rogers also pointed out that El Sayed can't even condemn Iran, which, of course, is exactly right.
00:19:45.000 I mean, he literally said he was caught on tape, El Sayed, saying that he would not condemn Ayatollah Khomeini because there are too many fans of Ayatollah Khomeini in his hometown of Dearborn, Michigan.
00:19:57.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:19:58.000 It's a threat.
00:19:59.000 My opponent can't even condemn the IRGC, which is the terrorist enforcement arm of Iran, and doesn't believe Iran is any more dangerous than Israel.
00:20:09.000 This is an absolute non starter if you're going to send somebody back to the United States Senate.
00:20:15.000 That, of course, is exactly right.
00:20:17.000 Well, El Sayed was asked about his family's Muslim Brotherhood ties.
00:20:20.000 They are extensive, as are his own.
00:20:23.000 And here he was getting pretty defensive about all of this.
00:20:27.000 I've never been a part of it because my mom, who's a nurse in Missouri, It doesn't make any sense.
00:20:33.000 And it's actually really quite beneath you, Mike.
00:20:35.000 It's really quite beneath you.
00:20:37.000 To call into question my loyalty to the Constitution, I'm talking.
00:20:40.000 I'm talking.
00:20:41.000 I'm talking.
00:20:42.000 I'm talking.
00:20:43.000 Excuse me.
00:20:44.000 Yeah.
00:20:44.000 Go ahead.
00:20:45.000 Can I have a few more seconds?
00:20:46.000 Yes.
00:20:46.000 Go ahead.
00:20:46.000 Thank you.
00:20:48.000 To bring into question my commitment to the Constitution is really beneath you.
00:20:54.000 Why would that possibly be beneath him?
00:20:56.000 I'll call into question his commitment to the Constitution.
00:20:58.000 Which parts of the Constitution precisely is he in favor of?
00:21:01.000 Truly.
00:21:02.000 He's not just using.
00:21:03.000 As an excuse to cram down on Americans a deeply anti American vision of society.
00:21:08.000 Okay, let's be very clear about Abdul Al Sayed and the Muslim Brotherhood.
00:21:12.000 The evidence of his familial ties to the Muslim Brotherhood are extensive.
00:21:15.000 His sister says his family has always been Muslim Brotherhood.
00:21:18.000 His father in law was a founding member of Izna, the Islamic Society of North America, which is a Muslim Brotherhood offshoot.
00:21:24.000 And he accepted hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign donations via his father in law.
00:21:31.000 His parents are both connected, his biological parents are both connected with Muslim Brotherhood sources.
00:21:40.000 He himself signed a letter in 2012 calling for support of the Muslim Brotherhood regime in Egypt and asking for them to crack down on dissent from the old regime.
00:21:51.000 He said about terrorists who tried to murder Jewish school children so long as they're Islamic.
00:21:55.000 He says, hurt people, hurt people.
00:21:57.000 And then said the reason that perhaps a terrorist tried to murder a bunch of kindergartners near Detroit was because that terrorist's Hezbollah family members had been killed in Lebanon by the IDF.
00:22:10.000 He has yet to recommend a single measure for cracking down on the Muslim Brotherhood.
00:22:15.000 He's yet to explain what about the Muslim Brotherhood he does not support.
00:22:19.000 Only in the last week or so has he even said that he disassociates from the Muslim Brotherhood.
00:22:24.000 So, El Sayed trying to play, how dare you challenge me, sir?
00:22:27.000 Well, I mean, I don't know.
00:22:28.000 You might answer any of those questions.
00:22:29.000 By the way, his campaign has been asked explicitly about that letter from 2012 by the New York Times.
00:22:34.000 Quote When asked recently by reporters, he has disavowed the group.
00:22:37.000 His campaign aides declined to answer questions about the 2012 letter.
00:22:42.000 El Sayed's mother and half sister, with whom he did not grow up, did not respond to requests for comments.
00:22:48.000 Well, I mean, again, how about his father in law?
00:22:53.000 How about his half sister saying that the entire family is Muslim Brotherhood?
00:22:57.000 How about that?
00:22:58.000 Like, again, it's insane for him to try to hide behind.
00:23:01.000 Everyone's just being mean to, you know, everyone's just being mean to El Sayed.
00:23:04.000 They're just being so mean to him, you know?
00:23:08.000 It's not that there's any evidence to back all this.
00:23:10.000 Everyone's just mean to him.
00:23:11.000 In fact, you're an Islamophobe if you have questions about any of this based on the actual evidence.
00:23:16.000 Here's Elsaiah trying to play that card.
00:23:20.000 To bring in a question, my commitment to the Constitution is really beneath you.
00:23:25.000 I am proud of America.
00:23:26.000 I'm proud to be an American.
00:23:27.000 I'm proud of our Constitution that guarantees all of us the right to pray as we choose to pray.
00:23:32.000 And the question that you would ask that I think is actually really quite shameful as somebody who's actually served under that Constitution.
00:23:38.000 It is shameful.
00:23:38.000 Okay, Susan Rogers, you now have 30 seconds for a rebuttal.
00:23:42.000 You know, I wore the uniform of the United States proudly, as my son did.
00:23:47.000 My wife served.
00:23:48.000 My brother served.
00:23:49.000 My father served.
00:23:49.000 So you could pray any way you want.
00:23:51.000 And I know you want to make this about you being a victim.
00:23:54.000 This is about an ideology, an ideology that's banned in five Muslim countries.
00:24:02.000 100% correct.
00:24:05.000 And frankly, I don't think the Islamophobia play is going to work.
00:24:08.000 I don't.
00:24:08.000 I don't think most people look at Abdul El Sayed and say the reason you're questioning him is because he prays in a particular way.
00:24:13.000 No one cares how he prays.
00:24:15.000 In fact, the only person who seems to care about how Abdul El Sayed prays is Abdul El Sayed, who put together an entire ad bragging about his religious adherence without showing that he's a Muslim anywhere in the ad.
00:24:26.000 He's a little shy about that, apparently, when it comes to the TV ads.
00:24:29.000 It shows him like hanging out in churches, doesn't show him hanging out.
00:24:33.000 In Mosque at all.
00:24:33.000 By the way, at the same time that he's going out there and pretending that he has no strong feelings about anything going on in the Middle East and it's really just about what's going on in Michigan, he was on Al Jazeera and he was talking about how the Syrian regime, which is a terrorist backed regime, I mean, HTS, was an offshoot of ISIS.
00:24:53.000 And here he is talking about how he's in total solidarity with the Syrian regime, which, by the way, is attempting to murder Druze, like as we speak.
00:25:03.000 We need to make sure that there are no sanctions, that the people of Syria can build out their future as any and all people who serve, that they can do that together in peace, and that they can join the community of nations.
00:25:14.000 Inshallah, that's what happened.
00:25:17.000 You became a senator in the U.S. Senate.
00:25:20.000 Inshallah, we'll support the Syrian on the progress.
00:25:25.000 Of course, I want to make sure that any of the barriers to progress because of the last regime are taken out so that this leadership has the opportunity to build.
00:25:35.000 Build out democratic institutions, build out with the interference of, without the interference of people like Israel.
00:25:42.000 Syria is run by Turkey.
00:25:44.000 That is the reality.
00:25:45.000 Also, he was asked whether Israel has a right to exist.
00:25:48.000 And he won't answer the question because, of course, he does not believe that Israel has a right to continue existing.
00:25:52.000 We should make this clear.
00:25:54.000 When people say, does Israel have a right to exist?
00:25:55.000 We're not having a debate in 1910 about the future of Zionism.
00:25:58.000 We're talking about if Israel, the Jewish state, should continue to exist today.
00:26:02.000 He won't say yes because he would love to see it wiped off the face of the earth.
00:26:05.000 Don't worry, he's not an Islamic radical.
00:26:06.000 He just likes to pray five times a day.
00:26:08.000 It's really just that people are mean to him about where he prays.
00:26:11.000 Israel exists.
00:26:12.000 The question is whether or not we want a politics where our money is sent over to Israel to do genocide and apartheid instead of investing in our own kids.
00:26:20.000 You say it exists, but does it have a right to?
00:26:24.000 No, I didn't say that.
00:26:25.000 I just said the question of Israel's existence is not a question.
00:26:27.000 I'm not going to play this gotcha game about whether or not it has a right to exist.
00:26:32.000 The question ultimately is about whether or not we want a politics that dignifies Israel.
00:26:35.000 You're not going to play the gotcha game, but you're not going to say you think Israel has a right to exist.
00:26:39.000 Well, my question, Casey, I think the question we all ought to ask is.
00:26:43.000 Does everybody have equal rights to peace, dignity, and self determination?
00:26:45.000 That's Jewish, Israelis, and Palestinians.
00:26:47.000 And to me, the folks who should answer what the ultimate peace there looks like should be Jewish, Israelis, and Palestinians.
00:26:54.000 I want my tax dollars spent here in Michigan to provide schools in Michigan, to build healthcare in Michigan, to invest in Michigan rather than to be sent abroad to kill Palestinian people, do genocides and apartheid.
00:27:04.000 The question about whether or not Israel has a right to exist is actually quite secondary to whether or not they have a right to our tax dollars.
00:27:10.000 And people don't ask that question in good faith.
00:27:12.000 So if you want to ask me about Palestinian right to exist, if you want to ask me about what I want to do for kids in Michigan, I'm happy to answer that question.
00:27:20.000 Okay, so he's happy to talk about whether Palestine has a right to exist, but not about Israel, an ally of the United States.
00:27:25.000 Again, we can have all sorts of conversations about military aid to Israel.
00:27:28.000 And we can talk, for that matter, about military aid to Egypt, which he never talks about, or Saudi Arabia, or to Qatar, or to UAE, or to the wide variety of other countries where we have bases or provide military aid.
00:27:39.000 We can do all of those things, but that's obviously not what he is concerned about.
00:27:43.000 And he has no problem, by the way, with hundreds of millions of American taxpayer dollars passing through to the Palestinian Authority, which legitimately fosters terrorism, or American aid being passed on to the Hamas governed areas of the Gaza Strip, which, again, that's a terror group.
00:27:57.000 So, again, what we have here in the United States is the importation of a class of people who hate the United States, are perfectly willing to use the institutions and rules of the United States against it.
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00:28:51.000 Professor. What?
00:29:05.000 You sit there and shake because you're dependent on drink, your sick is all over you.
00:29:11.000 Have you ever seen a child starve to death, Professor?
00:29:16.000 No. I have.