The Ben Shapiro Show - The Kavanaugh-calypse Approacheth | Ep. 631

00:00:00.000 A Democrat is arrested for targeting Republicans.

00:00:02.000 The Kavanaugh vote approacheth, and a last-ditch attempt to stop Kavanaugh materializes.

00:00:07.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:00:08.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:14.000 The excitement builds as we approach the Kavanaugh vote.

00:00:16.000 Mitch McConnell has now filed for cloture.

00:00:18.000 That means the vote on Kavanaugh will likely take place on Saturday.

00:00:22.000 Perfect!

00:00:23.000 I'll be off.

00:00:24.000 So I won't even know what happened.

00:00:25.000 The suspense will kill me on Saturday.

00:00:27.000 Ah, once again, God coming between me and the news.

00:00:30.000 But, you know, that's just the way it works around here.

00:00:32.000 Bunch of announcements to make up top here before we get into the latest.

00:00:36.000 And today we're going to go through a lot of material, including the supposition that Brett Kavanaugh

00:00:40.000 committed perjury on the stand, which is the new angle that's being taken.

00:00:43.000 We'll talk about all of that.

00:00:44.000 But first, I want to announce that tonight I am kicking off my YAF tour, Young America's Foundation tour, at University of Southern California.

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00:03:13.000 Now, to the news.

00:03:14.000 So, Mitch McConnell, the Senate Majority Leader, has announced that he is invoking cloture, meaning that we are not going to allow the Democrats to filibuster the Kavanaugh nominee, and that means that by Saturday, the full Senate will be voting on Brett Kavanaugh.

00:03:27.000 Here was Mitch McConnell yesterday announcing that he was going to file cloture on the floor of the Senate.

00:03:33.000 There'll be plenty of time for members to review and be briefed on the supplemental material before a Friday cloture vote.

00:03:41.000 So I'm filing cloture on Judge Kavanaugh's nomination this evening so the process can move forward as I indicated earlier this week.

00:03:49.000 And the process should move forward.

00:03:51.000 The process should move forward because guess what?

00:03:54.000 Shocker.

00:03:54.000 It turns out that nothing has been found.

00:03:57.000 And we've now been doing this for another week.

00:03:59.000 Another week thanks to Senator Jeff Flake and the idea that an FBI investigation was going to quell everyone's fears.

00:04:04.000 Clearly that's happened.

00:04:05.000 Clearly, Democrats are now very satisfied with how this has gone.

00:04:08.000 Everybody has a lot of faith in the FBI.

00:04:10.000 Folks on the left, they really feel like a full investigation has been done, and they're feeling pretty satisfied about all this.

00:04:15.000 Take, for example, Senator Dianne Feinstein, who took the results of the FBI inquiry, and she saw that it basically said nothing new, and then she said, you know what?

00:04:23.000 I feel like this has been settled.

00:04:24.000 I guess now I'll really consider Brett Kavanaugh's nomination.

00:04:27.000 Or alternatively, she did what everyone knew what she would do, and she said, oh no, the investigation is a bunch of hooey, and it was never meant to be comprehensive, and therefore Democrats can't vote for Kavanaugh on that basis.

00:04:39.000 Here is Dianne Feinstein, who really has just been

00:04:42.000 I mean, there's no other word for it in terms of the process that she's engaged in than evil.

00:04:47.000 I mean, it really has been an evil process in which she's engaged, getting an allegation on July 30th, holding it for six weeks until just before the vote, releasing it without any corroborating detail, maybe releasing it anonymously in order to spur the full release of the story, and then grilling Brett Kavanaugh on supposed gang rape.

00:05:05.000 Now, all of this has just been gross, but here's Senator Dianne Feinstein continuing her pattern of being gross by saying that the FBI investigation is incomplete.

00:05:11.000 And because it's incomplete, therefore, that's really why we shouldn't vote on Kavanaugh.

00:05:16.000 But what I can say is that the most notable part of this report is what's not in it.

00:05:23.000 As we noted by the White House, the FBI did not interview Brett Kavanaugh.

00:05:29.000 We have seen even more press reports of witnesses who wanted to speak with the FBI but were not interviewed.

00:05:36.000 Okay, so I love that she says what's most important here is what's not in it.

00:05:42.000 That's true, but not how she means it.

00:05:43.000 So she says, what's most important is all the people the FBI didn't interview.

00:05:47.000 Well, that's because the people that she's talking about could provide no corroborating evidence.

00:05:51.000 What's not in the report is that there is no corroborating evidence for any of Christine Blasey Ford's allegations.

00:05:58.000 No corroborating evidence.

00:06:00.000 None.

00:06:00.000 The GOP Senate Judiciary Chair, Chuck Grassley, he says there is no hint of misconduct in confidential FBI report on Kavanaugh's sexual misconduct claims.

00:06:08.000 He says there's nothing in it that we didn't already know.

00:06:11.000 Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski, at least Susan Collins from Maine, she is suggesting that the FBI process has made her feel a little more quiet about this whole thing.

00:06:19.000 Maybe that's what Jeff Flake was going for.

00:06:21.000 If so, we'll put the best possible spin on it.

00:06:23.000 Maybe when Senator Flake called for the FBI investigation, he was just trying to get Susan Collins on board or provide cover for a couple of Democrats like Joe Manchin and Heidi Heitkamp to vote for Brett Kavanaugh.

00:06:34.000 Also, the polling data this week has been brutal for Democrats.

00:06:37.000 So that means that Joe Manchin and Heidi Heitkamp in North Dakota, that the two of them may in fact vote for Kavanaugh just to preserve their Senate seats.

00:06:44.000 It is very likely right now that the Democrats, their chances before the Kavanaugh thing were not good.

00:06:50.000 With regard to taking back the Senate, they had about one in three shot, according to FiveThirtyEight's modeling, of taking back the Senate.

00:06:56.000 Now that's down to about one in four.

00:06:58.000 And it looks like Republicans may actually pick up seats in the Senate.

00:07:01.000 Even the advantage that Democrats have in House races has been reduced by half, as we talked about yesterday on the show.

00:07:06.000 So this Kavanaugh thing has backfired pretty badly on Democrats.

00:07:09.000 White House spokesman Raj Shah says the White House has received the Federal Bureau of Investigation's supplemental background investigation into Judge Kavanaugh.

00:07:16.000 It is being transmitted to the Senate.

00:07:18.000 With Leader McConnell's cloture filing, senators have been given ample time to review the seventh background investigation.

00:07:24.000 This is the last addition to the most comprehensive review of a Supreme Court nominee in history, which includes extensive hearings, multiple committee interviews, over 1,200 questions for the record, and over half a million pages of documents.

00:07:35.000 With this additional information, the White House is fully confident the Senate will vote to confirm Judge Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court.

00:07:41.000 President Trump tweeted out this morning, the harsh and unfair treatment of Judge Brett Kavanaugh

00:07:46.000 He's 100% right on this.

00:07:46.000 Even Bret Stephens is expressing gratitude that Trump is president today, which is an amazing thing, right?

00:07:50.000 Bret Stephens is about as anti-Trump as it's possible to be.

00:07:52.000 He is a true never-Trump Republican, and he came out

00:08:11.000 in the New York Times today and said, I am very, very pleased that Donald Trump is president and standing by Brett Kavanaugh.

00:08:17.000 Now, there are a lot of folks on the left who don't seem to understand why folks on the right are so passionate about this issue.

00:08:24.000 The reason we're passionate about this issue is because it looks like due process and presumption of innocence have been tossed completely out.

00:08:29.000 Now, in a second, I'm going to get to the counter argument that's being made by some folks, I think in good faith, folks like Sam Harris on his podcast.

00:08:35.000 And I'm friendly with Sam.

00:08:37.000 And we've been having a little bit of a text back and forth about this.

00:08:40.000 And I'm not spilling any secrets.

00:08:41.000 He said all this stuff publicly.

00:08:42.000 I want to talk about that in just a second.

00:08:44.000 But the way that Republicans are viewing this, the way conservatives are viewing this, the way independents are viewing this is a man was accused after 36 years of allegedly sexually assaulting a girl back when he was 17 years old.

00:08:57.000 There is no corroborating evidence and Democrats want to run him out of his life over it.

00:09:01.000 And then the media have decided to latch on to every single rumor they possibly can in order to prevent Kavanaugh from joining the court.

00:09:10.000 That's what this looks like. 0.78

00:09:11.000 To anyone I think of Objectify, I don't even think it's conservatives, anyone of Objectify, the process sucks.

00:09:16.000 Now, there are two separate questions.

00:09:18.000 And this is where I think it's worthwhile discussing the most intellectually honest version of the leftist case.

00:09:23.000 There are two separate questions. 0.96

00:09:24.000 Does the process suck? 0.95

00:09:26.000 And does Brett Kavanaugh deserve to be on the court? 0.90

00:09:29.000 Now, these two issues are not completely separate.

00:09:32.000 The process and its suckage are one of the reasons why Brett Kavanaugh got himself into a little bit of trouble with regard to his testimony.

00:09:38.000 I'm going to talk about the trouble he got himself into with regard to his testimony in just a second.

00:09:42.000 But the suckage of the process is what most people are concerned with at this point because it feels like whatever

00:09:50.000 Complaints are being made about Brett Kavanaugh are essentially fruit of the poisonous tree.

00:09:53.000 And when you accuse a guy of gang rape and you start going through his yearbook, and then your final case against him is he fibbed about stuff in his high school yearbook, and that's why he shouldn't be on the Supreme Court?

00:10:03.000 That feels like fruit of the poisonous tree in the worst possible way.

00:10:06.000 And in a second, I'm going to discuss that case.

00:10:10.000 Also, it feels like the media are out to get Kavanaugh, because they are.

00:10:12.000 Ronan Farrow has done some really good work on the Me Too stuff.

00:10:15.000 Like, some really excellent work on the Me Too stuff.

00:10:19.000 And he completely has undermined his own credibility with regard to Brett Kavanaugh.

00:10:23.000 So, you recall that a week ago, The New Yorker, in a piece by Jane Meyer, who is not a good reporter, and Ronan Farrow, who is a good reporter, they put out a piece suggesting that a woman named Deborah Ramirez, back when she was at Yale, was at a drunken frat party, and Brett Kavanaugh unzipped his pants and exposed himself to her.

00:10:38.000 That was the accusation.

00:10:39.000 It was at a party.

00:10:40.000 She apparently considered it for six days because she wasn't sure that she remembered it correctly or that it was Kavanaugh.

00:10:45.000 And then she came forward and told the story.

00:10:47.000 There were no corroborating witnesses.

00:10:48.000 Well, last night, The New Yorker decides that in order to undermine the credibility of the FBI investigation, they are going to come forward with new witnesses to Deborah Ramirez's statement.

00:10:58.000 Well, that would be kind of a bombshell, wouldn't it?

00:11:00.000 Except that's not actually what the report said.

00:11:02.000 On Wednesday evening, The New Yorker runs this investigative piece from Meyer and Ronan Farrow.

00:11:06.000 The piece claimed that the FBI investigation into sexual assault claims against Kavanaugh was insufficient.

00:11:12.000 What made the investigation insufficient?

00:11:13.000 Well, here's what they said.

00:11:14.000 They said, quote,

00:11:15.000 We're good to go.

00:11:32.000 So the FBI investigation is, just as Feinstein said, insufficient because there are a bunch of witnesses who have not been interrogated by the FBI, and they've been desperately reaching out to the FBI, trying to tell their vital stories.

00:11:44.000 What are their vital stories?

00:11:45.000 Well, the key vital story comes from a guy named Kenneth Appold.

00:11:48.000 Kenneth Appold, according to the New Yorker, was a suite mate of Brett Kavanaugh's at the time of the alleged incident.

00:11:54.000 He had previously spoken to the New Yorker about Ramirez and condition of anonymity, but he said that he is now willing to be identified because he believes the FBI must thoroughly investigate her allegation.

00:12:04.000 Appold, who is the James Hasting Nichols Professor of Reformation History at Princeton Theological Seminary, said that he first heard about the alleged incident involving Kavanaugh and Ramirez either the night it occurred or a day or two later.

00:12:15.000 Appold said he was 100% certain that he was told that Kavanaugh was the male student who exposed himself to Ramirez.

00:12:22.000 Well, okay, that's pretty damning stuff, right?

00:12:23.000 I mean, here's a guy who's saying that he heard about Kavanaugh exposing himself at this party.

00:12:29.000 So why isn't the FBI talking to him?

00:12:31.000 Clearly, the FBI investigation is a ruse.

00:12:33.000 Clearly, it hasn't been done thoroughly enough, and all the rest of it.

00:12:38.000 Well,

00:12:39.000 There's only one problem.

00:12:40.000 Buried a few paragraphs down there in the story is a little spoiler that completely undermines the New Yorker story.

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00:13:59.000 So how did the New Yorker undermine its own case?

00:14:01.000 So they say here's a witness, a witness who says he heard about Brett Kavanaugh exposing himself to a girl at Yale.

00:14:07.000 Now again, this is a different allegation than the he tried to sexually

00:14:11.000 Assault somebody. 0.85

00:14:12.000 This is a bad, drunken, frat antic that is gross, but it's not quite the same thing as pressing yourself on a girl and putting your hand over her mouth. 0.70

00:14:20.000 There are gradations of evil.

00:14:22.000 This one is a little bit lower than the other one.

00:14:23.000 But, here's the big problem with the New Yorker story.

00:14:26.000 Okay, the New Yorker story says this, this is actually what it says in the story, quote,

00:14:48.000 So in other words, here's what the New Yorker is reporting.

00:14:50.000 Here's their big bombshell.

00:14:52.000 This guy heard secondhand about a party at which Kavanaugh exposed himself without permission to a girl.

00:14:58.000 And this guy said, I'm not coming forward until I talk to the guy who told me the story.

00:15:02.000 The New Yorker actually identified that guy who supposedly witnessed the event.

00:15:06.000 And they went and they talked to him.

00:15:07.000 And that guy said, I don't remember anything about that.

00:15:11.000 Wouldn't that actually be the end of the story?

00:15:14.000 Like in a normal journalistic standard, wouldn't that be the end of the story?

00:15:17.000 If I spoke to somebody and they said, I heard a rumor from X that this happened and he was an eyewitness.

00:15:21.000 And then when I spoke to the eyewitness and the eyewitness said, no, I don't remember anything about that.

00:15:27.000 That would be the end of the story.

00:15:29.000 The New Yorker ran with it anyway, because this is the length to which journalists will go to sink Brett Kavanaugh's nomination.

00:15:35.000 And then that report in The New Yorker gets even worse.

00:15:37.000 The New Yorker wrote that some of Kavanaugh's classmates said he was a bully in high school who laughed at other kids.

00:15:42.000 This is a quote from The New Yorker story.

00:15:44.000 In his statement,

00:15:45.000 In his statement, which his attorney also sent to several members of the Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday, he described Kavanaugh as part of a clique of high school athletes, most of whom were on the football team, who routinely picked on less physically fit or popular students.

00:15:59.000 He said he never witnessed Kavanaugh physically attacking another student, but he recalled him doing nothing to stop the physical and verbal abuse.

00:16:05.000 Instead, he said Kavanaugh stood by and laughed at the victims.

00:16:09.000 So what?

00:16:10.000 So what? 0.99

00:16:11.000 Is the implication that he shouldn't sit on the Supreme Court because he was a jackass in high school? 0.99

00:16:14.000 And I mean, like, in the classic sense? 1.00

00:16:16.000 Like he was a jerk in high school who was part of the popular kids clique? 0.99

00:16:19.000 This is coming from a guy who was deeply unpopular in high school, right? 0.99

00:16:22.000 I have no sympathy for guys who were bullies in high school or who stood by while bullying occurred in high school.

00:16:27.000 I have no sympathy for that because I was a brutal victim of bullying when I was in high school. 0.94

00:16:30.000 But being a victim of bullying does not mean that I think that anyone who was a bully in high school also raped chicks.

00:16:37.000 I don't think that's a thing. 0.85

00:16:38.000 There are a lot of guys in my high school who are the worst people imaginable in high school.

00:16:44.000 I don't think any of them participated, and I have no evidence that any of them participated, in sexual assault on girls.

00:16:50.000 But that's the implication from the New Yorker story.

00:16:52.000 And you wonder why the right is reacting with outrage to all of this?

00:16:55.000 That's why the right is reacting to outrage.

00:16:56.000 Why else?

00:16:57.000 Because the left is now desperately attempting

00:17:01.000 to make a series of claims about Kavanaugh that are unconnected to the original allegation.

00:17:06.000 And I'll get to that in just one second.

00:17:08.000 So, first we begin with the response from Dr. Christine Blasey Ford to the FBI investigation, which came up with nothing new.

00:17:15.000 Her attorneys, who are Democratic activists, they sent out a statement and said, quote, An FBI supplemental background investigation that did not include an interview of Dr. Christine Blasey Ford nor the witnesses who corroborate her testimony cannot be called an investigation.

00:17:28.000 We are profoundly disappointed that after the tremendous sacrifice she made in coming forward, those directing the FBI investigation were not interested in seeking the truth.

00:17:36.000 A few things.

00:17:36.000 One, she testified under oath at length.

00:17:39.000 There is no reason for the FBI to talk to her again.

00:17:41.000 If she contradicts her story, she commits perjury.

00:17:43.000 There's really no reason for them to talk to her.

00:17:45.000 Second, they talked to all of the witnesses.

00:17:49.000 None.

00:17:49.000 Zero.

00:17:50.000 Zip.

00:17:50.000 Zilch.

00:17:50.000 None.

00:18:08.000 I have to debunk a talking point that's being used routinely by folks on the left with regard to Blasey Ford.

00:18:15.000 There's this talking point on the left that women would never falsify, would never misremember, would never lie about allegations of rape.

00:18:23.000 Tremendous sympathy for people who allege sexual assault.

00:18:27.000 I do.

00:18:27.000 I mean, when she first came forward, I said, this is a credible account, and I want to wait for corroborating evidence before I make a decision on this.

00:18:34.000 There's no corroborating evidence forthcoming, and that's why I'm saying that Brett Kavanaugh can't sit on the court.

00:18:38.000 I still don't know if she's telling the truth.

00:18:40.000 You don't know either.

00:18:41.000 Nobody knows, because there's no corroborating evidence and no witnesses.

00:18:45.000 With that said, one of the things that's been put out there by folks on the left is that there's no incentive for women in high-profile cases to come forward. 0.53

00:18:53.000 I have two words for you.

00:18:54.000 Anita Hill.

00:18:54.000 Okay, Anita Hill has been a hero on the left for the last 25 years.

00:18:58.000 HBO made a full series about her.

00:19:00.000 And if you think there's no incentive for women to come forward and shape the course of history, I find that highly doubtful.

00:19:07.000 Highly doubtful.

00:19:08.000 I mean, here was Time Magazine's cover this week.

00:19:10.000 The Time Magazine cover this week is of Christine Blasey Ford swearing with her eyes closed and her entire face is made up of words from her testimony. 0.67

00:19:20.000 Does that look like somebody who has not benefited at all from the publicity?

00:19:24.000 I would say that Christine Blasey Ford is one of the most worshipped figures on the left today.

00:19:27.000 So, that's not an implication that she's lying, but to suggest that the incentives are all stacked in one direction is just not correct.

00:19:34.000 It's just not objectively correct.

00:19:36.000 It is true that Brett Kavanaugh has an interest in her story not being true, but she also has an interest to suggest that women don't have an interest in coming forward in high profile cases because all they're going to get is the downside.

00:19:45.000 It's just, it's not accurate.

00:19:46.000 It's just not accurate.

00:19:48.000 Now, again, that doesn't mean she's manufacturing her case.

00:19:50.000 It doesn't mean she's lying, but we ought to at least be honest about what the incentive structures here are.

00:19:56.000 Incentive structures are in place for allegations to sometimes be made.

00:20:00.000 If they weren't, then you wouldn't have high profile cases where women come forward and say something and it turns out that they're fibbing. 1.00

00:20:06.000 We're making things up.

00:20:08.000 So that is point number one.

00:20:11.000 Point number two, there are a bunch of people who are now coming forward and making ancillary claims that have nothing to do with Kavanaugh.

00:20:16.000 And this is supposed to be the great debunker of Kavanaugh.

00:20:20.000 So there was a piece in USA Today that a woman was promoting on Twitter in which she claimed that Brett Kavanaugh getting angry in front of the Senate is the reason that he shouldn't be on the court.

00:20:27.000 So remember, the original reason he shouldn't be on the court was that he was a conservative.

00:20:32.000 Then, the reason that he shouldn't be on the court is because he allegedly committed sexual assault.

00:20:35.000 Then, when there was no corroborating evidence, he shouldn't sit on the court because he was partisan and angry.

00:20:40.000 This woman at USA Today says, I remember my angry father and that's why Brett Kavanaugh shouldn't sit on the court.

00:20:47.000 What in the world does that have to do with anything?

00:20:48.000 What does that have to do with anything?

00:20:51.000 That's like me saying, I was abused in high school by bullies. 0.96

00:20:54.000 Brett Kavanaugh was a bully in high school. 1.00

00:20:55.000 That means he raped a chick. 1.00

00:20:57.000 And therefore, I oppose his nomination. 0.99

00:20:59.000 And it's just, it's an absurd claim.

00:21:02.000 If a bad thing happened to you in your life thanks to a person who is not the person we're talking about, that doesn't mean that the person at issue actually committed a crime against a person who is not you.

00:21:13.000 It's legitimately like saying, I have a relative who was murdered.

00:21:16.000 That means that Senya committed murder of another person.

00:21:19.000 There's no logic to that whatsoever.

00:21:22.000 First of all, Senya would get away with it.

00:21:23.000 She's very clever, dastardly, in fact, in her cleverness. 0.98

00:21:27.000 But it's a nonsensical argument.

00:21:29.000 That's an argument that's been repeated.

00:21:30.000 We should believe all women because something happened to me.

00:21:34.000 And because something happened to me, I believe Christine Blasey Ford.

00:21:36.000 I don't understand that line of thinking at all.

00:21:39.000 Bad things have happened to everybody in their life.

00:21:40.000 Terrible things have happened to many people, some worse than others.

00:21:43.000 That doesn't mean that third parties are guilty for crimes against fourth parties.

00:21:48.000 It's just, it's an absurd claim.

00:21:49.000 It's an absurd claim.

00:21:50.000 And then, there's this letter from 650 law professors at the Washington Post, and I'll talk about that in just a second.

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00:23:03.000 So speaking of this, something bad happened to me and therefore Brett Kavanaugh is guilty.

00:23:07.000 Connie Chung did that today at the Washington Post.

00:23:09.000 So Connie Chung, who you recall is a journalist, I believe at, she used to be, was it NBC?

00:23:16.000 Connie Chung?

00:23:16.000 CNN?

00:23:17.000 CNN?

00:23:18.000 I'm trying to remember where she was a journalist.

00:23:19.000 In any case, Connie Chung has a piece.

00:23:21.000 It is called this.

00:23:22.000 So?

00:23:30.000 I mean, I don't mean to be insensitive, but so?

00:23:33.000 Like, why don't you report who sexually assaulted you and then we can, like, go prosecute that guy?

00:23:37.000 But that's not what the piece says.

00:23:39.000 It says, What made this monster even more reprehensible was that he was the very doctor who delivered me

00:23:53.000 On August 20th, 1946.

00:23:55.000 I'm 72 now.

00:23:57.000 It was the 60s.

00:23:58.000 I was in college.

00:23:59.000 Am I sure who did it?

00:24:00.000 Oh, yes.

00:24:00.000 100%.

00:24:00.000 And then she just goes on and on about what exactly happened here.

00:24:05.000 And it's pretty terrible.

00:24:07.000 Right?

00:24:07.000 It's pretty terrible.

00:24:09.000 And she says that she was basically molested by the doctor.

00:24:13.000 So what is supposed to be the conclusion of this?

00:24:16.000 I mean, I don't know what the conclusion's supposed to be.

00:24:19.000 It says, Christine, I know the truth as you do.

00:24:22.000 This logic is just as applicable to Crystal Mangum, who is the Duke Lacrosse rape accuser, who is lying, or Emma Sulkowicz, the Columbia University rape accuser, who is lying, or to Jackie, the University of Virginia rape accuser, who is lying.

00:24:36.000 If the standard is something bad happened to me, so you're telling the truth, we have no system of due process, presumption of innocence, or justice.

00:24:41.000 I mean, it's just an insane claim.

00:24:43.000 Other insane claims.

00:24:45.000 1,700 law professors have signed a letter that they sent to the New York Times and then sent on to the United States Senate on October 4th, and they talk about judicial temperament.

00:24:54.000 So there are several cases now being brought against Kavanaugh based not on the original allegations, but based on ancillary allegations.

00:25:00.000 So case number one is, something bad happened to me, so I believe Ford.

00:25:04.000 Terrible case, illogical, makes no sense.

00:25:06.000 Case number two, Brett Kavanaugh got mad.

00:25:09.000 You see, he got angry.

00:25:11.000 You accused him of raping people and then he got angry.

00:25:14.000 And that means that he's not fit for the court.

00:25:17.000 And you used partisanship in order to destroy this man's life.

00:25:20.000 And then you're mad that he called out your partisanship.

00:25:22.000 That means he's a partisan and he shouldn't sit on the court.

00:25:25.000 You know the reason no one cares what a bunch of law professors think?

00:25:28.000 Because everyone knows that law professors are Democrats.

00:25:30.000 I went to Harvard Law School.

00:25:31.000 You know how many Republicans were on the staff at Harvard Law School?

00:25:34.000 As far as I know, one.

00:25:36.000 Legitimately one when I was there.

00:25:37.000 I think it was Professor Manning.

00:25:40.000 He was the only one.

00:25:41.000 OK, there may have been one other, but like Charles Freed, I believe, was teaching contract law at the time.

00:25:47.000 I'm not even sure he was a Republican by the time that I took his class.

00:25:50.000 The number of actual Republicans or conservatives in the halls of law school academia are nil.

00:25:56.000 So basically, we have a bunch of partisan Democrats signing letters saying they don't like Brett Kavanaugh because he got mad.

00:26:02.000 Right, which again, as I said, that argument is so bad.

00:26:05.000 It's like saying that when my daughter takes my little son's hand, she's four and a half, he's two and a half, when she takes his hand and she hits him in the face with it, and then she says, you're hitting yourself, and then he gets angry.

00:26:14.000 Like, kid, why are you getting angry?

00:26:17.000 Well, it's because you hit him in his face with his own hand.

00:26:21.000 Like, that would probably be the reason.

00:26:23.000 I saw a tweet today.

00:26:24.000 It's like the Democrats basically said to Brett Kavanaugh, Brett Kavanaugh is responsible for the bee shortage.

00:26:29.000 And they just release bees in the room, all of which attack Kavanaugh and sting him.

00:26:33.000 And then they're like, oh, he's screaming about the bee attack.

00:26:35.000 That's terrible.

00:26:36.000 No judicial temperament.

00:26:38.000 Pretty much that.

00:26:39.000 So this long letter says, we are professors who teach, research, and write about the judicial institutions of this country.

00:26:45.000 The question at issue is painful for anyone, but Judge Kavanaugh exhibited a lack of commitment to judicious inquiry.

00:26:52.000 Uh-huh.

00:26:52.000 So when the notorious RBG, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, rips on Trump and says he shouldn't be president, that's not partisanship.

00:26:57.000 She deserves to sit on the court. 1.00

00:26:59.000 But when Judge Kavanaugh gets angry that people are calling him a gang rapist on open television, then that's obviously a reason that he shouldn't be on the court.

00:27:07.000 So that's case number two, is that Brett Kavanaugh got mad.

00:27:10.000 Oh no, he got mad, and that means that he shouldn't be on the court.

00:27:14.000 That's again a pretty astonishing claim.

00:27:17.000 He got angry, therefore he shouldn't be on the court.

00:27:19.000 That one is nonsense.

00:27:20.000 So, that means the Democrats have fallen back on their final case.

00:27:24.000 Okay, so their final case, the one that they're finally falling back on at the latest,

00:27:30.000 Judge Kavanaugh

00:27:50.000 Standard for perjury, section 1748, elements of perjury, materiality.

00:27:54.000 The false statement must be material to the proceedings.

00:27:57.000 A false statement is material if it has a natural tendency to influence or is capable of influencing the decision of the decision-making body to which it was addressed.

00:28:04.000 The testimony not have actually influenced, misled, or impeded the proceedings.

00:28:09.000 So if you lie to impede a grand jury's line of inquiry, then that would be a violation of perjury charges.

00:28:16.000 If you're President Clinton, and you suggest you did not, in fact, have sex with that woman, that is legitimate perjury.

00:28:22.000 But that is not the same thing as, you know, you're asked a question about whether it snowed on a particular day, you know it snowed, but you say it rained, and that has no actual material impact on the course of the investigation, that's perjury.

00:28:33.000 Okay, that's not how it works.

00:28:34.000 So what are the lies that Brett Kavanaugh supposedly told?

00:28:36.000 First of all,

00:28:37.000 It is important to note that all of his testimony was given in the context of him being accused of a gang rape by a bunch of Democrats.

00:28:45.000 And then they were digging through his yearbook.

00:28:47.000 So every claim that has been made about his lies has been that supposedly he downplayed his drinking or lies about his high school yearbook.

00:28:54.000 Or lies about his high school yearbook.

00:28:55.000 Now, I'm not going to defend lying.

00:28:56.000 I'm not going to pretend that if Brett Kavanaugh lied about things, I think that makes him squeaky clean.

00:29:01.000 But let's go through a list of the supposed lies that Brett Kavanaugh told.

00:29:04.000 This is from Boing Boing, okay?

00:29:05.000 So Boing Boing is a far-left site, and so this means they're going to give about as comprehensive a view, well, it's actually from Media Matters, which is as comprehensive a view as you can come up with, of Brett Kavanaugh's lies.

00:29:16.000 So, what are these supposed lies?

00:29:19.000 Kavanaugh said he did not travel in the same social circles as Ford, but he did.

00:29:24.000 And then they said, well, he traveled in the same social circles.

00:29:26.000 Well, what's the evidence?

00:29:28.000 That some of the people she says were at a party with her were on his calendar.

00:29:32.000 That's not the same social circles.

00:29:34.000 That's six degrees of Kevin Bacon.

00:29:37.000 That's like saying that, you know, I travel in the same social circle as Senya and therefore Senya's friends are in my social circle.

00:29:43.000 That's not the same thing at all.

00:29:45.000 Also, they say that he lied when he attempted to fabricate an alibi by suggesting he did not drink on weekdays.

00:29:50.000 That's not true.

00:29:50.000 He said he rarely drank on weekdays.

00:29:53.000 And his own calendar.

00:29:54.000 And in fact, he referred openly in his testimony to his calendar.

00:29:56.000 He said, on this day, I probably drank.

00:29:59.000 How do I know I probably drank?

00:30:00.000 Because it says so on my calendar.

00:30:02.000 Kavanaugh said he had no connection to Yale University prior to attending undergrad and law school there, but he was a legacy admittee.

00:30:08.000 That is not true.

00:30:08.000 He's not a legacy admittee.

00:30:10.000 His grandfather went to Yale in 1908.

00:30:14.000 Not to Yale Law School, to Yale.

00:30:16.000 So that's not actually a thing.

00:30:19.000 Where else did he lie?

00:30:20.000 Supposedly he lied about blacking out from drinking.

00:30:23.000 But he didn't lie about that.

00:30:24.000 There's no evidence that he actually did black out from drinking.

00:30:27.000 Now, the Democrats kept using Blackout from drinking because what they were attempting to establish is that he actually tried to rape Christine Blasey Ford and just didn't remember the incident.

00:30:36.000 That's what they're attempting to say.

00:30:38.000 But there's no actual evidence of that, so there's no lie there either.

00:30:42.000 Now, what you could say is that he was playing his drinking in the most favorable possible light.

00:30:47.000 I think that's fair.

00:30:48.000 But that's not the same thing as perjuring yourself, as lying openly.

00:30:54.000 We'll go through a couple more of the supposed lies that Brett Kavanaugh told.

00:30:57.000 Rich Lowry has a good rebuttal to this over at Politico as well.

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00:32:06.000 Well, we're going to tell you the rest of Brett Kavanaugh's supposed lies, this kind of final last-ditch attempt to stop his nomination.

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00:33:25.000 So back to the supposed lies that Brett Kavanaugh told.

00:33:27.000 So this is their final ditch attempt. 1.00

00:33:28.000 So they said, we can't nominate him because he's a sexual assaulter. 0.99

00:33:31.000 And then they said, we can't nominate him because other women have been raped by other people who are not Brett Kavanaugh. 0.99

00:33:38.000 And then they said, well, we can't nominate him because he got angry.

00:33:42.000 And finally they came up with, well, he committed perjury.

00:33:45.000 He committed perjury.

00:33:46.000 There's only one problem.

00:33:48.000 No evidence he committed perjury.

00:33:49.000 So, some of the other accusations.

00:33:51.000 They say that Kavanaugh cited Maryland's drinking agent explaining his behavior even though he was too young to legally drink in any case.

00:33:57.000 The only thing is that he said in his testimony he was too young to legally drink.

00:34:00.000 He said the drinking agent in Maryland was 18.

00:34:01.000 He said that in his testimony.

00:34:03.000 And then they get to the boofing, right?

00:34:05.000 So they suggest that it's a lie.

00:34:07.000 He committed perjury.

00:34:08.000 We're going to charge him with perjury for saying that in his yearbook, when he was 17, he used the word boof to mean fart. 0.99

00:34:14.000 And what it actually means is anal sex. 0.99

00:34:17.000 I'm not kidding. 0.99

00:34:17.000 This is what they actually are saying. 0.99

00:34:19.000 That everyone knows that boofing is anal sex. 0.99

00:34:21.000 I didn't know the boofing was that. 0.99

00:34:23.000 That's weird.

00:34:24.000 Also, it turns out that there are a lot of different ways that people use the word boof.

00:34:28.000 Also something I didn't know, but there has been substantial research on the boofing, and it turns out that there's no way to substantiate that as a lie.

00:34:35.000 Also, the term devil's triangle.

00:34:38.000 So there's a suggestion.

00:34:40.000 Is that Brett Kavanaugh was using a pornographic reference about two dudes and one girl in a threesome.

00:34:45.000 Again, he says that that was a drinking game.

00:34:47.000 It seems a pretty weird way to obscure your past drunkenness to term Devil's Triangle a drinking game.

00:34:53.000 But again, there are a bunch of people on Twitter who have said that they have heard of that as well.

00:34:58.000 Okay, so there's a bunch of people who say, no, he actually meant that.

00:35:02.000 Now, let's remember, why is any of this material?

00:35:05.000 It's only material because the suggestion by Democrats is that if you put a bunch of sexual references on his Facebook page, that means he sexually assaulted a girl when he was 17.

00:35:13.000 That in and of itself is an insane line of inquiry.

00:35:16.000 It's an insane line.

00:35:17.000 Have you ever read a Facebook page?

00:35:19.000 Have these people ever been in high school?

00:35:21.000 I went to an all boys Jewish high school.

00:35:24.000 My yearbook page was clean.

00:35:26.000 I can't say the same for all my friends.

00:35:29.000 There are references that people didn't necessarily understand in the yearbook pages.

00:35:33.000 At an Orthodox Jewish day school.

00:35:35.000 I have a feeling that most high schools around the country are replete with such references.

00:35:39.000 Jess and Senya, you guys went to high school?

00:35:41.000 Were there any obscure, weird sexual references in your yearbook by dudes?

00:35:47.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:35:48.000 Too many to count is precisely the right answer because, of course, have you ever met a teenage boy? 0.89

00:35:54.000 I love all these senators who are drunk and louts going around like, oh, well, when you were 17, you wrote in your yearbook about drinking and making sexual references. 0.94

00:36:03.000 Like... 0.98

00:36:04.000 Okay, if you're a 17-year-old boy, have you ever... Again, have you met a 17-year-old boy?

00:36:08.000 There's not a 17-year-old boy on Earth who doesn't make sexual references.

00:36:11.000 None.

00:36:11.000 Zero.

00:36:12.000 Zip.

00:36:12.000 Zilch.

00:36:13.000 But, if Brett Kavanaugh downplayed that in his testimony, this means he was a perjurer who cannot sit on the Supreme Court now that he is 60 years old.

00:36:21.000 Uh-huh.

00:36:21.000 Okay, so...

00:36:23.000 Here is the final.

00:36:24.000 So finally, they narrow it down.

00:36:26.000 Finally, they narrow it down.

00:36:27.000 So what is this?

00:36:28.000 They also suggest that he lied when he says that he had a weak stomach, so he used to throw up a lot.

00:36:32.000 Well, maybe he had a weak stomach and he threw up because of alcohol and or spicy food.

00:36:36.000 I also have a weak stomach.

00:36:38.000 I throw up a lot, too.

00:36:39.000 That could happen from drinking.

00:36:40.000 I've never thrown up because of drinking, actually, because I don't actually drink.

00:36:44.000 But the Manischewitz.

00:36:46.000 Thank you, Alex.

00:36:48.000 No, I'm not desperate enough to drink Manischewitz.

00:36:50.000 That would be just terrible.

00:36:52.000 But it's

00:36:54.000 So finally, they've narrowed in on one thing.

00:36:56.000 One thing.

00:36:57.000 So the Bufang and the Devil's Triangle, all this stuff, meh. 0.77

00:36:59.000 It's just a bunch of nonsense.

00:37:00.000 Then they narrow down to one thing and one thing only.

00:37:02.000 Here is their only credible claim, in my opinion, their only credible claim that Brett Kavanaugh lied in his testimony.

00:37:08.000 Their only credible claim is that there is a reference on 14 of the boys' yearbook pages about a woman named Renate Dolphin, who is an attendee of a local all-girls high school.

00:37:17.000 Now, a few things you might need to know about Renée Dolphin before we actually get to the supposed lie. 0.97

00:37:23.000 Renée Dolphin was good enough friends with Brett Kavanaugh that originally she signed a letter in support of the idea that he was very good to girls when he was in high school.

00:37:32.000 She was on that letter.

00:37:33.000 She was friends with him for many, many years.

00:37:36.000 And she signed that letter.

00:37:37.000 There's no accusation that she had sex with him in high school.

00:37:40.000 There's no accusation that he sexually assaulted her in high school.

00:37:42.000 There's no accusation that he touched her in high school.

00:37:44.000 None.

00:37:45.000 So what exactly is the claim?

00:37:47.000 The claim is that on 14 Boys Yearbook pages, there was a reference to Renate Alumnius, referring to her.

00:37:54.000 And other references suggest that this was a joke among a bunch of guys, suggesting that they were alumni of her genitals, essentially. 0.91

00:38:04.000 That there's a bunch of guys who'd had sex with her. 0.74

00:38:06.000 And when Kavanaugh was asked about this, he said that this was an attempt, a clumsy attempt at affection among his friends.

00:38:13.000 Right, that's what he said in his actual testimony.

00:38:16.000 And I want to see if I can grab the actual text of the testimony so that I can find exactly what it is that he was claiming.

00:38:23.000 But the basic suggestion of Brett Kavanaugh is that this was not, in fact, a reference to sex with Renate Alumnius.

00:38:34.000 The Renate Alumnius was not a reference to sex with Renate Dolphin.

00:38:37.000 The New York Times had a piece where they said that it was horrible and hurtful

00:38:41.000 And here's what the New York Times said.

00:38:43.000 They said that two of Judge Kavanaugh's classmates said the mentions of Rene were part of the football player's unsubstantiating boasting about their conquests.

00:38:50.000 And Kavanaugh suggested that it was a clumsy attempt.

00:38:53.000 Right?

00:38:53.000 That it was a clumsy attempt at affection.

00:38:56.000 Now,

00:38:57.000 Maybe that's true, and maybe that's not.

00:39:00.000 But there's no way to substantiate perjury.

00:39:01.000 First of all, it's not material.

00:39:03.000 I read you the materiality provision in the FBI, in the DOJ manual.

00:39:07.000 And second of all, it is fair to say that a clumsy, a clumsily, here's how he phrased it, quote, one thing in particular we were sad about, one of our good, one of our good female friends, who we would admire and went to dances with, had her name used on our yearbook page with the term alumnus.

00:39:20.000 That term was clumsily used to show affection, to show she was one of us.

00:39:24.000 There is no way to substantiate anything differently.

00:39:26.000 Except, theoretically, they could have gone and asked one of the other 13 guys who used your name on the pages if that's what that meant.

00:39:32.000 They didn't.

00:39:33.000 Because you know what?

00:39:34.000 They couldn't find anyone to testify. 0.93

00:39:35.000 What it meant is we all had sex with Renate. 0.98

00:39:37.000 Renate Dolphin.

00:39:38.000 So based on him being vague about a yearbook phrase two words long from when he was 17, that means he can't sit on the Supreme Court.

00:39:49.000 Yeah, go with that.

00:39:51.000 Strong response, Democrats.

00:39:53.000 That's definitely where I think that you're going to catch him.

00:39:56.000 So, it's pretty obvious at this point that the Democrats will do anything to stop Brett Kavanaugh, and it's pretty gross.

00:40:03.000 Now, speaking of doing anything to stop Brett Kavanaugh,

00:40:06.000 Their last such attempt was on Wednesday.

00:40:07.000 So Senate Democrats released the latest in an absurd spate of Democratic letters.

00:40:11.000 They'd released a bunch of letters directed at Republicans asking for more information.

00:40:14.000 Bernie Sanders wanted more information.

00:40:16.000 And Senator Chuck Grassley responded to him by saying, are you actually considering voting for Kavanaugh?

00:40:21.000 Because you said the day after he was nominated you wouldn't.

00:40:24.000 And then Chris Coons wrote a letter asking for an FBI investigation into a non-verified and unbelievable allegation of sexual misconduct.

00:40:32.000 Well, this time, this is what happened late last night,

00:40:35.000 Senators Dick Durbin, Dianne Feinstein, Pat Leahy, Sheldon Whitehouse, Richard Blumenthal, Mazie Hirono, Cory Booker, and Kamala Harris wrote a letter suggesting that the confidential background investigation of Judge Kavanaugh from the FBI prior to the hearings, not the new one, showed there was information related in some way to inappropriate sexual behavior or alcohol abuse.

00:40:52.000 So they wrote a vague letter saying that there was some intimation of inappropriate sexual behavior or alcohol abuse in his prior FBI background checks.

00:41:00.000 There's only one problem.

00:41:01.000 He wasn't asked a single question at his original confirmation hearings about inappropriate sexual behavior or alcohol abuse.

00:41:07.000 And by using the phrase, by phrasing it such that the Democrats were saying that in the past FBI background checks, there was evidence of quote, inappropriate sexual behavior or alcohol abuse, that somehow the Democrats knew something they weren't telling us.

00:41:20.000 Well, it turns out they didn't know anything.

00:41:22.000 It turns out they were just muddying the waters, which is completely unsurprising because that's where we are at this point in time.

00:41:29.000 No wonder the Republicans are united on this.

00:41:31.000 Lindsey Graham,

00:41:32.000 Who has turned into something kind of awesome.

00:41:35.000 Like Lindsey Graham 2.0 is so much better than Lindsey Graham 1.0.

00:41:39.000 It's not even close.

00:41:40.000 Like the new software update is just fantastic.

00:41:43.000 So Lindsey Graham, the senator from South Carolina, ripped into Dianne Feinstein for ripping into Kavanaugh on his supposed anger on Fox News. 1.00

00:41:51.000 Here's Lindsey Graham. 0.98

00:41:53.000 I like Dan Feinstein.

00:41:54.000 I don't think she leaked Dr. Ford's name to the media, but somebody around her may have.

00:41:59.000 If you saw this man as yelling, I saw a man who was offended to his core, defended his good name, took it to the people who were trying to destroy his family.

00:42:09.000 What would you do if you were in that situation?

00:42:12.000 Do not let these people. 0.92

00:42:14.000 Do what they've done to Judge Kavanaugh and reward them by saying he's no longer fit because he is in the world's worst position of defending himself against a bunch of garbage from people who don't care about fairness. 0.95

00:42:26.000 Okay, and that's exactly right.

00:42:27.000 Senator Graham was even better when he did some sort of public event with the Atlantic.

00:42:32.000 He said that how Kavanaugh's been treated is despicable and the audience started booing him and he went directly after the audience, which was just spectacular.

00:42:39.000 I don't like what the President said last night.

00:42:42.000 I'm the first person to say, I want to hear from Dr. Ford.

00:42:46.000 I thought she was handled respectfully. 1.00

00:42:49.000 I thought Kavanaugh was treated like crap. 1.00

00:42:53.000 Yeah, well, boo yourself. 1.00

00:42:55.000 Good for him.

00:42:56.000 Boom! 0.99

00:42:57.000 Lindsey Graham just dropping the hammer.

00:42:59.000 Gotta love that sort of stuff. 0.55

00:43:01.000 And again, the hypocrisy of many members of the left on this, not all members of the left, but many members of the left on this is just astonishing.

00:43:06.000 People who are saying, oh, it's just a job interview.

00:43:08.000 Really?

00:43:08.000 Does this sound like just a job interview?

00:43:10.000 I know when I interview somebody for a job, the first thing I do is throw uncorroborated allegations of sexual assault at them.

00:43:15.000 That's the first thing that I do. 0.95

00:43:16.000 When we interviewed Senya, she came in here and I was like, Senya, so I heard that you raped a chicken. 0.99

00:43:21.000 And then we just started from there.

00:43:22.000 And then if she got mad, I was like, sorry, we can't have you here.

00:43:24.000 I'm sorry.

00:43:26.000 We try to run people through the gauntlet around here in our job interviews.

00:43:29.000 So that's always a very, very strong... Senya gets hit hard because she's in the room. 1.00

00:43:34.000 I would say the same about Mathis.

00:43:37.000 When Mathis first came in here, I was like, so Mathis, you strangle cats in your backyard.

00:43:41.000 That was our opening question.

00:43:43.000 And he handled himself well, and that's why he's been able to rise as the company.

00:43:47.000 All job interviews go like that around here, I know.

00:43:50.000 The Democrat hypocrisy on this stuff is really astonishing from a lot of folks.

00:43:53.000 That's not to say every Democrat is being dishonest, but some certainly are.

00:43:56.000 One is clearly Alyssa Milano, who says that she is filled with rage at the GOP.

00:44:02.000 Here she was on... Why is Alyssa Milano a thing? 1.00

00:44:05.000 I don't know.

00:44:06.000 She was uncharmed, and now she's a thing. 0.99

00:44:08.000 Okay.

00:44:08.000 Well, here she was on MSNBC explaining how much she hates that the GOP is suddenly tolerant of supposed sexual assault.

00:44:15.000 I mean, I'm not sure if you were to have a real conversation with any American, whether they be Democrat or Republican, that they would side with this kind of behavior where we've reached a low where we're actually mocking people and their stories of hurt and of pain.

00:44:38.000 Who are we?

00:44:39.000 Who do we want to be as a country?

00:44:40.000 What are we trying to project?

00:44:42.000 To the young people of this world.

00:44:43.000 To the young people.

00:44:56.000 Clearly, these are people who take very seriously allegations of sexual assault.

00:45:00.000 So yeah, I'm definitely... There's no politicking here at all.

00:45:04.000 None.

00:45:04.000 Okay, time for some things I like and then some things that I hate.

00:45:07.000 So, things that I like.

00:45:09.000 I've started watching the show Vikings.

00:45:11.000 It's a fun show.

00:45:13.000 It's a fun show.

00:45:15.000 What's kind of fun is to watch this and there's another show called The Last Kingdom that's on about sort of the...

00:45:20.000 I saw something.

00:45:21.000 What did you see?

00:45:22.000 God's desire you to have a great future.

00:45:50.000 Oh, they're good, really.

00:45:55.000 If you like shows with swords, then it's great.

00:46:02.000 That's pretty much my standard.

00:46:04.000 If there's a show that has people fighting with swords, I'm pretty much in.

00:46:07.000 I don't have high standards when it comes to that sort of stuff.

00:46:11.000 It's definitely worth watching.

00:46:12.000 I'm like three or four episodes in, and so far, I think it's quite good.

00:46:16.000 It's History Channel trying to get ratings, so it has a few HBO touches, but aside from that, I think that it's

00:46:22.000 A pretty solid show for the most part.

00:46:24.000 Okay, other things that I like today.

00:46:27.000 So Kanye West, as I've said many times, Kanye is live by the Kanye, die by the Kanye, right?

00:46:32.000 You get the good along with the bad.

00:46:34.000 So sometimes he is implying that Abraham Lincoln might have been a black guy, which he did today.

00:46:40.000 And that was weird.

00:46:42.000 And sometimes he is saying that Colin Kaepernick should reach out to President Trump.

00:46:45.000 He says, reaching out to Colin Kaepernick, I would like you to speak with the president to tell him your experience directly.

00:46:49.000 Let's have a dialogue, not a diatribe.

00:46:52.000 Seems kind of reasonable.

00:46:53.000 Seems kind of reasonable.

00:46:54.000 I like that Kanye is actually going out of his way to say that people can think differently.

00:46:57.000 Now, does that mean that all of his different thoughts are good thoughts?

00:47:00.000 No.

00:47:01.000 But it means that some of the... that at least...

00:47:03.000 He's open to having conversations, which is nice.

00:47:05.000 I was talking to a reporter from the Washington Post yesterday, and I said, one of my chief irritants in life is the fact that I have strenuous disagreements with a lot of folks on the left.

00:47:13.000 I'm willing to have a conversation with pretty much anybody on the left.

00:47:16.000 On my Fox News show last Sunday, I had on Ariel Gold.

00:47:19.000 I think she's wrong about pretty much everything.

00:47:21.000 I was happy to have a conversation with her.

00:47:23.000 I think she's wrong, like dead wrong, about everything.

00:47:26.000 Happy to have a conversation with her.

00:47:27.000 I've had on Sam Harris on the show.

00:47:29.000 I'm happy to have a conversation with folks on the left.

00:47:31.000 I've invited Ta-Nehisi Coates.

00:47:32.000 He will not come.

00:47:33.000 I've invited the guys from Positive America.

00:47:34.000 They will not come.

00:47:36.000 There's so many people on the left who refuse to show up simply because they think that this is giving credibility to people on the right.

00:47:42.000 Why is it that...

00:47:43.000 Half the people who I have invited on the show, I would say a significant percentage of the people on the left I have invited on the show, are people who don't have a platform as big as the platform I can give them.

00:47:52.000 So it's not just about them legitimizing me, it's about them feeling that they are legitimizing an evil point of view by even having a conversation with me.

00:48:01.000 And when Kanye says, well, Kyle, why don't you just go talk to Trump?

00:48:05.000 It seems like a little more of that sort of conversation would be kind of good for the country.

00:48:08.000 Okay, time for a couple of things that I hate.

00:48:14.000 Okay, so thing number one that I hate.

00:48:16.000 This is an amazing video.

00:48:17.000 So, a dude roundhouse kicked a pro-life woman who was covering an anti-life march, a pro-abortion march.

00:48:25.000 This guy is clearly a member of society's elite.

00:48:30.000 And he gets angry, and he just decides to roundhouse kick her.

00:48:33.000 And then, I love his excuse.

00:48:34.000 After he roundhouse kicks her, you're gonna hear him yell about how he only meant to kick her phone, which is really a good excuse.

00:48:40.000 Guess what?

00:48:42.000 Hey.

00:48:42.000 Destruction of private property.

00:48:44.000 It's against the law.

00:48:45.000 If somebody gets raped by somebody and they're like, I'm a 16 year old and I can't have this baby.

00:48:52.000 Think you should keep it? 0.60

00:48:54.000 It's a baby. 0.99

00:48:55.000 If someone is raped and she gave birth and she decided to kill her 3 year old child. 1.00

00:49:02.000 I meant to kick your bones! 1.00

00:49:04.000 Solid argument there, dude. 0.99

00:49:07.000 Class act.

00:49:08.000 What a decent fellow.

00:49:09.000 What just a nice guy that dude is.

00:49:11.000 So, that's excellent.

00:49:14.000 The idea that the left is non-violence is insane.

00:49:16.000 What we're hearing today at USC, by the way, the leftists, they're so funny.

00:49:20.000 So, there's only one group of people who are protesting and upset that I'm coming.

00:49:23.000 Those are the people who are on the left, on the hard left.

00:49:26.000 And they've been making claims that I'm going to be the cause of violence.

00:49:30.000 Not a single speech of mine has ever resulted in any violence, ever, by anyone who supports me.

00:49:37.000 None.

00:49:38.000 Okay?

00:49:38.000 And yet, there's been plenty of violence at my speeches, right?

00:49:41.000 Cal State LA, there was some violence.

00:49:44.000 There have been many attempts to disrupt.

00:49:46.000 There was obviously violence when it came to Berkeley.

00:49:48.000 None of those people are my folks.

00:49:50.000 Okay, the people who are actually engaging in violence are a lot of folks on the left, and I love the implication that... It's so funny, the police were like, well, we're expecting some things might happen at USC tonight, and these student groups are saying things like, well, you know, if it does happen, it'll come from the other side.

00:50:04.000 Really?

00:50:05.000 Really?

00:50:05.000 Because the police say you're allowed to protest, like, in this area.

00:50:07.000 They're like, well, we're not sure we can stay in this area because violence might break out.

00:50:10.000 Really?

00:50:10.000 Spontaneously.

00:50:11.000 Amazing.

00:50:12.000 Amazing how that's going to happen.

00:50:13.000 Again, I hope everything is peaceful tonight, but the suggestion that folks on the left are inherently nonviolent is insane.

00:50:18.000 It's also insane in light of the story that broke yesterday.

00:50:22.000 that is getting wildly undercovered, that a Democratic congressional staffer was arrested by Capitol Police yesterday, suspected in the doxing of some Republican senators last week.

00:50:31.000 Personal information for Lindsey Graham, Mike Leonor, and Hatch was posted on Wikipedia the day of the Brett Kavanaugh hearing, and Gizmodo reported at the time that the Capitol Police had been notified.

00:50:40.000 It turns out the guy who did it, allegedly, was Jackson Cosco, a 27-year-old who works for Representative Sheila Jackson Lee and was a staffer for Maggie Hassan and Barbara Boxer, both Democratic senators.

00:50:50.000 Now, imagine if a Republican Senate staffer had leaked the location of a bunch of Democrats.

00:50:54.000 Would that be front page news?

00:50:56.000 Yeah, it would be front page news.

00:50:57.000 Is it front page news when a Democrat does it?

00:50:59.000 Well, not quite.

00:51:01.000 Not quite.

00:51:02.000 So, solid stuff, as always, from the unbiased media.

00:51:06.000 Okay, final thing that I hate.

00:51:08.000 So, Jimmy Kimmel. 0.99

00:51:10.000 Is it funny how she describes President Trump's genitals? 0.97

00:51:12.000 Yeah, it's pretty funny. 0.99

00:51:12.000 I mean, she's talking about Mario Kart characters in the context of the president's genitals. 0.99

00:51:30.000 Is she some sort of feminist heroine? 1.00

00:51:33.000 No.

00:51:33.000 Would they be laughing the same way if this were a Democratic president?

00:51:36.000 100% not.

00:51:36.000 Would she be hosted on national television for having had a consensual affair with a guy 12 years ago when he wasn't president?

00:51:43.000 No.

00:51:44.000 Would Jimmy Kimmel, of all people, be upholding himself as some sort of pope of sexual purity?

00:51:51.000 I think not.

00:51:52.000 But here's what it looked like on Jimmy Kimmel's show on ABC.

00:51:57.000 The door to the hotel opens and what is Donald Trump wearing?

00:52:01.000 Uh, silky pajamas.

00:52:02.000 And they were black pajamas, right?

00:52:04.000 Yes.

00:52:04.000 Yeah.

00:52:05.000 And you made love. 0.67

00:52:07.000 Gross! 0.98

00:52:08.000 What is wrong with you? 1.00

00:52:09.000 I mean... I laid there and prayed for death.

00:52:13.000 All right.

00:52:14.000 They might fall off, though.

00:52:24.000 Oh! 0.60

00:52:27.000 Is this the one? 0.99

00:52:28.000 Okay, so then he brought out, for folks who can't see, he brought out a table full of mushrooms because she said that Trump's genitals look like a mushroom. 0.93

00:52:35.000 He brought out a table of mushrooms and had her identify these on air. 0.86

00:52:38.000 I remember when all the late night comics did the exact same thing with Paula Jones.

00:52:41.000 I remember that.

00:52:41.000 That was really an amazing thing, except that never happened.

00:52:45.000 Right, so it's pretty incredible.

00:52:47.000 Jimmy Kimmel, a guy who, you know, go back and look at The Man Show, was not exactly pure in his treatment of women. 0.96

00:52:53.000 Now sitting with a woman who consensually had sex with Donald Trump. 0.95

00:52:56.000 I love that she's allowed to make this excuse now. 0.99

00:52:58.000 He says, you made love, and she goes, no, I prayed, I lay there and wished for death.

00:53:01.000 Really? 0.82

00:53:02.000 You were there voluntarily, and then you voluntarily had sex with him, and then you voluntarily kept in correspondence, and you're a victim? 0.94

00:53:08.000 Got it. 0.97

00:53:09.000 Whole thing's absurd.

00:53:10.000 It's just absurd.

00:53:10.000 But this is the world we have.

00:53:12.000 This is the business we've chosen.

00:53:14.000 So this is the world in which we live.

00:53:15.000 OK, we will be back here tomorrow with all of the latest, plus the mailbags.

00:53:18.000 It'll be a Friday.

00:53:18.000 If you're coming out to USC, we will see you there tonight.

00:53:21.000 It should be a lot of fun.

00:53:22.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - October 04, 2018

The Kavanaugh-calypse Approacheth | Ep. 631

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