The Ben Shapiro Show - The Poop-Flinging Begins | Ep. 882

00:00:00.000 Broadcasting from Jerusalem, Democrats claim they have their smoking gun, Republicans try to storm a secret Democratic hearing, and Congress people prove they know nothing about the newfangled interwebs.

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00:00:23.000 Well, first of all, before we even begin, I just want to thank Aish Hattora for putting us up in this location.

00:00:28.000 This is definitely the best location we're ever going to have for The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:31.000 If you don't subscribe to The Ben Shapiro Show, one of the reasons you should is so you can see the view behind me, because this really is an astonishing, astonishing view.

00:00:37.000 It has an amazing view of the Khotel.

00:00:39.000 The Western Wall is right behind me, behind the Western Wall.

00:00:42.000 You will see this giant golden dome that, of course, is the Dome of the Rock.

00:00:46.000 That's the Muslim shrine.

00:00:48.000 It's not really a mosque that they put right on top of the Jewish holiest site, which is what it is.

00:00:53.000 The Temple Mount is behind that wall and occupies that entire plateau.

00:00:57.000 We walked over there a little bit earlier this week and then were kicked off for the crime of mumbling prayers, which apparently is not allowed formally in Israel because of the Islamic Waqf.

00:01:06.000 We wanted to avoid all conflict.

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00:01:15.000 So again, we thank them for providing us with this slot, because it really is incredible.

00:01:20.000 As long as we're up here, I may talk for a few minutes here about the importance of Jerusalem.

00:01:24.000 So first of all, let's say you're not a religious Jew. 0.77

00:01:26.000 You're not a religious Christian. 1.00

00:01:27.000 You're not a religious Muslim. 1.00

00:01:29.000 So you're one of the five people who's not one of those three things, and you are trying to figure out exactly what is the significance of that.

00:01:35.000 Like, what's the significance of this place?

00:01:37.000 Jerusalem, as I've said in my book, The Right Side of History, lies at the heart of Western civilization.

00:01:41.000 It lies at the heart of Western civilization because Jerusalem is the holiest site in Judaism, which is the first monotheistic religion to really have tremendous impact on the world, and posits some certain central values that lie at the root of Western values, including human rights, the idea that human beings are made in God's image, the idea that the universe is a predictable place that human intellect is capable of understanding.

00:02:05.000 You know, all of that is deeply important stuff.

00:02:08.000 The reason that this particular site is very important is because underneath, according to Jewish thought, underneath the dome of the rock over there where the Holy of Holies used to stand in the Beit HaMikdash, in the temple, is the rock where a bunch of things happen.

00:02:26.000 It's the rock where Abraham, according to the Bible, was about to sacrifice Isaac.

00:02:32.000 It's also the rock where Jacob, when he was promised the land, had his dream with the ladder going up to heaven.

00:02:37.000 It's a deeply important place in Jewish spirituality.

00:02:41.000 And again, Jewish spirituality lies at the root of Christian spirituality.

00:02:44.000 It lies at the root of Muslim spirituality.

00:02:45.000 They're all based on the same book in the original.

00:02:48.000 And Jerusalem is holy to all of those religions for this specific purpose.

00:02:53.000 Now, to talk for a second about sort of the history and geography of Jerusalem, beyond the obvious value of understanding the heritage of your thought.

00:03:02.000 And that really is important, whether you are secular or whether you're religious.

00:03:04.000 I was joking before.

00:03:05.000 Obviously, there are a lot of secular people around the West, and that's fine.

00:03:09.000 You can be a perfectly moral person and be secular, but it is obvious that you do have to understand the roots of where your own values come from.

00:03:15.000 And those values do spring from both Athens, the idea of Greek thought and rationality, and from Jerusalem, this idea of faith-based, you have to take it on assumption, truths about the universe that are then reasoned out through human reason.

00:03:29.000 And this tug and pull between revelation and reason, between faith-based assumptions that you must make about the universe in order to create a civilization and human reason, that's what built the West.

00:03:39.000 To talk about the geography for just a second, you can't really see off to my left, that would be Ir David.

00:03:43.000 If you could see off to my left, what you would see is that down the hill is the actual site of the of the kingdom of David.

00:03:49.000 So Old Jerusalem, which surrounds us here on my right, is actually a much later invention, historically speaking.

00:03:56.000 Ir David is the stuff that's 3,500 years old, 4,000 years old, depending, going all the way back.

00:04:02.000 That is now being uncovered.

00:04:04.000 It's now being unearthed by archaeologists.

00:04:06.000 Old Jerusalem was built much later.

00:04:09.000 You can see that the Kotel, the Western Wall, which is by many thought to be the holiest site in Judaism, that's not true.

00:04:15.000 The Temple Mount is the holiest site in Judaism.

00:04:17.000 The Western Wall was actually a retaining wall for the actual platform upon which the Temple stood.

00:04:25.000 So, it's kind of weird.

00:04:26.000 Like, we're actually praying at the retaining wall, not for the actual Temple itself.

00:04:30.000 There was another wall that surrounded the Temple.

00:04:32.000 It's sort of like praying at the fence of a parking lot.

00:04:35.000 that contains the building that you actually care about, right?

00:04:37.000 That's sort of what the Kotel is.

00:04:39.000 The reason that people consider it supremely holy is because, obviously, it is also the closest place that Jews have had access to for thousands of years to pray toward the point of sort of what they call the axis mundi in Greek, or in Latin, the center of the spiritual or in Latin, the center of the spiritual universe.

00:04:59.000 But the Western Wall itself, there's nothing that differentiates this particular section of the Western Wall from the stuff that is just off to my left, which is more Western Wall.

00:05:07.000 And then if you continue all the way down for thousands and thousands of feet, it continues to be...

00:05:12.000 Western Wall.

00:05:12.000 There's just tons and tons of Western Wall going all the way through.

00:05:15.000 The difference is that the Mamluks actually built buildings all the way up to the Western Wall. 0.86

00:05:19.000 So this is all covered by occupied... I don't mean that in the sense of, like, military occupation.

00:05:24.000 I mean, like, people who actually occupy apartments living up against the Western Wall and have stores up against the Western Wall.

00:05:31.000 And then, of course, the retaining wall continues all the way around.

00:05:33.000 And all of that is just as ancient as the Western Wall here.

00:05:35.000 So there's no particular reason that the Western Wall is any more holy, theoretically.

00:05:39.000 Then the Eastern Wall, or then the Northern Wall, or then the Southern Wall, except for sort of location and the ability of Jews to pray there.

00:05:45.000 Now, the reason that this is important, I'll get to in just a second.

00:05:48.000 The reason that Jerusalem should remain unified and has to remain in Israeli hands, I'm going to explain in just a second, because historically speaking, bottom line is, you see around me a thriving city.

00:05:55.000 This was not a thriving city.

00:05:57.000 In 1966, this was a closed city, the Jordanians were in charge of it, and Jews could not pray at the Western Wall.

00:06:04.000 All of this was closed to both Jews and largely to Christians as well.

00:06:08.000 And that changed in 1967, during the Six-Day War, when Israel was able to take over the old city of Jerusalem.

00:06:14.000 So I'll explain that in just one second.

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00:07:25.000 Okay, so back to the geography here.

00:07:27.000 As you can see, when people talk about dividing Jerusalem, they're insane. 0.98

00:07:30.000 I mean, they're just crazy. 0.91

00:07:31.000 If you look over to my right, there's no place to draw a line here.

00:07:33.000 None, right?

00:07:34.000 You can't divide the old city.

00:07:35.000 It is entirely cohesive.

00:07:36.000 The buildings are stacked on top of each other.

00:07:38.000 This is not suburbia, okay?

00:07:39.000 There's no big street.

00:07:40.000 There's an eight mile in Detroit, right?

00:07:41.000 There's not even a dividing line.

00:07:43.000 It's just a giant, well-populated area that stretches for you know, miles in a particular radius.

00:07:54.000 So the idea of drawing a line and saying, on this side of the line, this will belong to the terrorist Palestinian authority. 0.96

00:07:59.000 On this side of the line, we'll have the Israeli government, which is a free and open democratic government, which allows people of every religion to vote and to sit in it and to visit all the holy sites.

00:08:08.000 This wall, the Kotel, was completely closed to Jews for years.

00:08:11.000 They were going all the way back to before the establishment of the State of Israel when this was British-Palestine, Whenever you see people, by the way, talk about, well, you know, this was Palestine before.

00:08:19.000 It was British Palestine before.

00:08:21.000 There was never an independent Muslim state of Palestine in this area.

00:08:24.000 It has never existed.

00:08:26.000 Given the way things are going right now, it never will exist because there's just no negotiation to be had with terrorists.

00:08:31.000 The bottom line is, The Jews were largely barred from all of the holy sites.

00:08:36.000 In 1967, Israel begs the Jordanians to stay out of the Six-Day War.

00:08:40.000 The Jordanians refuse. 1.00

00:08:41.000 They attack Israel. 0.70

00:08:42.000 Israel fights back, and they push the Jordanians entirely out of the area, leading to the very famous statement by a member of the Israeli military, Har Habayit Be'Adenu, that the Temple Mount is in our hands, and this has been Israeli territory ever since, as it always should have been, and as it Will remain, because the fact is that there is no dividing line that can be drawn in Jerusalem.

00:09:00.000 Whenever anybody says East Jerusalem is the Palestinian capital, what they're really talking about is towns that are located just outside of Jerusalem.

00:09:06.000 They're not talking about, like, taking this house right here and saying this is now Palestinian Authority territory.

00:09:12.000 Nobody right, left, or center in Israel, and the left largely doesn't exist because of this specific issue.

00:09:17.000 Nobody is actually going to buy into the idea of taking razor wire and then dropping it right across the center of the Old City of Jerusalem.

00:09:24.000 It's unthinkable.

00:09:25.000 It's unworkable.

00:09:26.000 There was razor wire around the Old City of Jerusalem when the Jordanians ran it until 1967.

00:09:30.000 It was a complete disaster area.

00:09:31.000 People were not granted access.

00:09:33.000 Again, if you're a Christian and you want to visit holy sites, you need Israel to be in charge of this area. 1.00

00:09:37.000 If you're a Jew, you certainly need Israel to be in charge of this area because Jews have been forbidden to pray at their holy sites for hundreds of years, in many cases, relegated to specific days they could visit the Western Wall. 0.99

00:09:49.000 There were riots if Jews would visit these places.

00:09:51.000 Even now, there's still vestiges of this in how Israel controls the Temple Mount in the sense that Israel still makes itself subject to the whims of the Islamic Waqf. 0.88

00:10:00.000 So as I learned earlier this week when I visited the Temple Mount, if you go up there and you mumble some prayers, there is a chance that you're going to get booted from the Temple Mount for the great sin of praying in Hebrew, right? 1.00

00:10:09.000 If I went up there and I prayed in Arabic, then I could walk directly up to the Dome of the Rock.

00:10:13.000 I could just hang out in there all day.

00:10:15.000 I mean, people literally do that.

00:10:16.000 In fact, you can establish a school.

00:10:17.000 There's a school on the on the northern side of the temple now, where children who are Muslim actually learn every day.

00:10:23.000 If you're a Jew and you want to walk up there, you have to be guarded by the Mishtara, by the police.

00:10:28.000 And if you commit the terrible, terrible sin of praying up there, then perhaps you will be booted.

00:10:34.000 It depends sort of how the police feel that day, if it starts to get really, really bad.

00:10:39.000 But that is more a vestige of sort of Jewish-Muslim relations pre-1967 than it is what exists in Israel currently.

00:10:47.000 So, in other words, there are more restrictions on Jews praying in Jerusalem than there are on Muslims praying in Jerusalem in Israeli Jerusalem.

00:10:53.000 So, that gives you a little bit of the context in which we sit.

00:10:55.000 If you're just looking at the geography, again, that's Mount Scopus all the way in the background.

00:10:59.000 This is the Temple Mount behind me.

00:11:00.000 You can see the Dome of the Rock.

00:11:01.000 You can see the Western Wall slightly below me.

00:11:04.000 This is the most contested area on earth.

00:11:06.000 It is also the area that it is vital remain under Israeli control. 0.99

00:11:11.000 If you actually wish to see freedom of worship, if you wish to see liberalism, and I just mean freedom and openness, then the idea of handing that over to the terrorist Palestinian Authority, to Hamas, or to Islamic Jihad, or to any of the myriad parties who are currently vying for Palestinian power is full-scale insanity.

00:11:26.000 So when you hear people on the American or European left say, why doesn't Israel just divide Jerusalem?

00:11:30.000 Think about the idea of taking a terrorist and giving them half your house and not moving out.

00:11:36.000 I mean, that is what you are talking about right here.

00:11:38.000 It is just unworkable.

00:11:39.000 Unworkable in every possible scenario.

00:11:42.000 Even the left in Israel has now acknowledged that the city of Jerusalem is not going to be divided.

00:11:47.000 As I said before, when they talk about dividing Jerusalem, they're really talking about the very, very outskirts that are largely Arab areas.

00:11:53.000 Over to my left, you see some Arab towns.

00:11:57.000 Everything in Israel is very, very close together because Israel is not a very large country.

00:12:01.000 Um, but, I think it's important to actually see it, and be here, and if you can't see it, at least take a look at that picture, and imagine the idea of a giant wall, uh, a Berlin Wall going up, you know, half a, half a, what, maybe a quarter mile to my right here?

00:12:15.000 Great idea.

00:12:15.000 Great, by, by great idea I mean terrible idea.

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00:13:30.000 Okay, so, now to the news of the day.

00:13:33.000 So, the President of the United States continues to be under fire over everything Ukraine-related.

00:13:40.000 Are trying to push back the timeline.

00:13:42.000 So to understand what is happening right here, you have to understand that President Trump basically suspended aid to Ukraine in the aftermath of the election of Ukraine's newly elected leader, Vladimir Zelensky.

00:13:54.000 And the Ukrainians were not formally informed of this.

00:13:56.000 They started to get sort of first indications that the United States was holding back the aid apparently in mid-August.

00:14:03.000 Now the media are touting that.

00:14:05.000 is an obvious example of the quid pro quo.

00:14:07.000 So all of this is an outgrowth of the, we have to back up for a second, all of this is an outgrowth of the testimony by Ambassador Bill Taylor, who testified in front of the House Oversight Committee, the Intel Committee, yesterday.

00:14:18.000 And in his testimony, he suggested that he had worked with a bevy of Trump officials and that everybody sort of understood that President Trump wanted Ukraine to announce investigations and that the aid would be withheld if the investigations were not undertaken.

00:14:31.000 Now, the question is, were those investigations motivated by an attempt to get Joe Biden or are they motivated by an attempt to quote unquote fight corruption?

00:14:38.000 The answer probably is somewhere in the middle.

00:14:40.000 Okay, and when I say somewhere in the middle, I don't even really mean like get Joe Biden, fight corruption.

00:14:45.000 And it really is that President Trump, you have to think of President Trump's character.

00:14:50.000 Do you think that President Trump for the last couple of years has been deploying Rudy Giuliani in a specific effort to suss out Joe Biden and find dirt on Joe Biden and go get Joe Biden and this was just the last step of that?

00:15:02.000 Was Rudy Giuliani in Ukraine because President Trump was really ticked about all of the talk about Russian interference in the 2016 election.

00:15:08.000 He had heard these wild rumors that Ukraine had Hillary's server.

00:15:11.000 He kept hearing that Ukraine had worked with Hillary Clinton to dig up dirt on him and Paul Manafort.

00:15:16.000 That part happens to be true as reported by Politico.

00:15:19.000 And so in his head, when he heard Ukrainian corruption, all of this melds into one giant ball of mush. 0.92

00:15:24.000 And then he was like, I'm gonna send Rudy over there to investigate all of that, and I want Ukraine to go along with all of it. 0.97

00:15:29.000 I want Ukraine... 0.90

00:15:31.000 to simply do what I want them to do and I'm going to withhold aid until they do that.

00:15:35.000 Now, is that to Trump's political benefit?

00:15:37.000 Is that specifically about Trump or is that about a legitimate U.S. interest in finding out what exactly happened in Ukraine in 2016?

00:15:43.000 Now, if you say that it's both, well, then you're in Democrat territory because the fact is that for two and a half years, we investigated Russian interference in the 2016 election.

00:15:53.000 That was in the U.S.

00:15:53.000 interest, right?

00:15:54.000 We do need to find out if foreign countries are interfering in the election.

00:15:57.000 Was it to Democratic political benefit?

00:15:59.000 Of course.

00:15:59.000 Is that impeachable behavior on the part of Democrats?

00:16:02.000 No, it's not.

00:16:02.000 Well, if Trump does the same thing with regard to Ukraine, in other words, if Trump has bad information that Ukraine was interfering in the 2016 election, and that Ukraine was attempting to target him, and that Ukraine, for some odd reason, has Hillary Clinton's server, and he says, I want to investigate every single bit of that, I want all of that investigated, is that in his political interest?

00:16:20.000 Sure.

00:16:21.000 Is that in the interest of the United States?

00:16:22.000 Well, yeah, actually, in the same way that it was in the interest of the United States to investigate Russian interference in the American election.

00:16:28.000 So it's hard to see how you can have it both ways, that the Trump-Russia investigation was totally legit, above board and decent, but Trump investigating Ukrainian interference in 2016 was absolutely terrible, quid pro quo, solely about Trump, quote-unquote, getting his political enemies.

00:16:43.000 See, I think that people are sort of assuming a level of mens rea and intent that just never applies to Trump.

00:16:48.000 I just don't think Trump thinks this way.

00:16:50.000 I don't, like, what is your evidence that Trump really thinks ahead and thinks step by step in logical fashion toward his end goal?

00:16:57.000 Like, has this ever happened with President Trump?

00:16:58.000 Ever?

00:16:59.000 No, he's a bundle of reactions.

00:17:01.000 And so he's reacting to people telling him things.

00:17:02.000 He's very angry at Ukraine.

00:17:04.000 He's vindictive about Ukraine.

00:17:05.000 He's been told a lot of stuff by the InfoWars crowd.

00:17:07.000 And so he sends over Rudy Giuliani.

00:17:08.000 He says, Rudy, I want you to go investigate.

00:17:10.000 Rudy is whispering in his ear, there's bad stuff happening in Ukraine.

00:17:13.000 And Trump's like, well, get to the bottom of it.

00:17:14.000 And we're going to withhold aid until they do.

00:17:16.000 Is that Trump?

00:17:19.000 Getting Joe Biden?

00:17:20.000 Or is that a quid pro quo that is real, but not illegal? 1.00

00:17:25.000 And for a stupid, half stupid purpose, but not a bad purpose, right? 1.00

00:17:29.000 I think that's probably where things are. 0.99

00:17:32.000 So one of the points that was made by me, actually, and became sort of a popular talking point on the right is that during this famous July 25th phone call between Trump and Zelensky, Trump is supposedly pressuring Zelensky to go get Joe Biden.

00:17:44.000 He mentions Joe Biden a couple of times and he mentions Burisma a couple of times and all of this.

00:17:49.000 And the idea is that he's withholding military aid in order to pressure Zelensky.

00:17:52.000 And as I pointed out at the time, there were several reports suggesting that Zelensky and the Ukrainians had no idea at the time that military aid was actually being withheld.

00:18:00.000 And so it's hard to say quid pro quo, at least over military aid, based on that phone call before the Ukrainians know there is a pro quo.

00:18:06.000 Well, now the media are trying to suggest that no, the Ukrainians actually did know that there was pressure.

00:18:11.000 They didn't know that there was a quid pro quo, but they knew there was pressure, and they knew by mid-August that there was military aid that was being withheld.

00:18:17.000 Okay, well, granted, they could know by mid-August, but that July 25th phone call is the crux of this thing.

00:18:23.000 And you'll notice that in the discussions of the Ukraine phone call, one name seems to sort of have dropped away, and that name is Biden.

00:18:30.000 So originally, the entire story was that this was all about getting Joe Biden.

00:18:34.000 Then it sort of morphed and broadened into, well, Trump wanted to investigate Ukraine, and that's bad.

00:18:39.000 Well, not quite the same thing.

00:18:41.000 Quid pro quo for investigating Ukrainian corruption, even badly informed Gold by President Trump.

00:18:48.000 That is not the same as get my domestic political opponent, jail him, go after him, give me the information.

00:18:55.000 That is a slightly different story.

00:18:57.000 Now, as I've been saying this now for weeks, Rudy Giuliani is going to be the one this all comes down to.

00:19:01.000 Rudy is going to show up and he's going to testify and he's going to have to explain why the Burisma Joe Biden thing fits into a broader rubric of supposed election interference and corruption.

00:19:10.000 And if he can't do that, then Trump is going to have some troubles.

00:19:12.000 If Rudy gets up there and he says, of course we were going after Joe Biden.

00:19:15.000 He's our political opponent.

00:19:17.000 Why wouldn't we go after Joe Biden?

00:19:18.000 Well, then Trump is done, right?

00:19:19.000 But if Rudy says anything else, then this is still too vague for anybody to impeach in the Senate, to vote for conviction.

00:19:27.000 In the Senate. 0.97

00:19:27.000 Now, with that said, Republicans are between a rock and a hard place a little bit because Trump's team keeps going out there and saying dumb stuff. 0.97

00:19:33.000 You have Mick Mulvaney saying things about quid pro quo. 0.72

00:19:36.000 You have Rudy going on TV and saying something ill-informed every five seconds.

00:19:39.000 And so if you're a Republican in Congress, your best bet at this point is to sort of hold fire and wait to see more information come out.

00:19:45.000 And that's pretty much precisely what you are seeing at this point, right?

00:19:49.000 What you're seeing is Republicans who are instead of focusing in on the actual allegations being made by Democrats.

00:19:56.000 They're focusing in on the process.

00:19:58.000 And frankly, that's, I think, somewhat legitimate.

00:20:01.000 So the media are going nuts today because House Republicans showed up to a deposition of a Defense Department official in what is called a SCIF, which is a protected information room, right?

00:20:11.000 Where confidential information is being traded.

00:20:13.000 And Republicans showed up and they started protesting there.

00:20:16.000 And they were very upset because they say not enough Republicans are being let in.

00:20:18.000 Now to be fair, there are Republicans who are sitting in these committees.

00:20:21.000 Republicans are sitting in these committees.

00:20:23.000 There are Republicans and Democrats.

00:20:24.000 They're sitting with Adam Schiff.

00:20:25.000 But Republicans are claiming, they're saying, we have not gotten the full transcripts.

00:20:29.000 We don't know everything that's being said.

00:20:30.000 Why does that matter?

00:20:31.000 Well, because we're hearing wildly, wildly varying reports from these committees.

00:20:36.000 About what exactly is happening behind closed doors.

00:20:38.000 So we see the full transcript of Bill Taylor's opening testimony about why he thought that Trump was performing a quid pro quo with military aid.

00:20:46.000 But then you have Devin Nunes, who sits on that committee, the representative from California, and he says that John Ratliff, who is another Republican representative, destroyed Taylor upon cross-examination, and that Taylor actually could not show a quid pro quo.

00:20:59.000 So here is Nunes saying just that.

00:21:01.000 But the truth is, is that in two minutes, John Ratcliffe destroyed this witness.

00:21:06.000 There's no quid pro quo.

00:21:08.000 In addition, it continues to be alarming to me the lack of the understanding at the State Department by the bureaucracy there about how much the Ukrainians were involved opposing Donald Trump as a candidate.

00:21:21.000 Okay, so what exactly happened behind closed doors?

00:21:24.000 The answer is, we don't know.

00:21:25.000 And this is what Republicans are protesting.

00:21:27.000 They're saying, okay, we're hearing one line from the Republicans, we're hearing one line from the Democrats, and we're getting selective leaks out of this committee.

00:21:32.000 So the media have jumped on House Republicans showing up and chanting, let us in, and saying, this is ridiculous, there are Republicans in there.

00:21:39.000 That's really not what Republicans are questioning.

00:21:41.000 What Republicans are questioning is, why is all of this being done behind closed doors?

00:21:45.000 Just do it openly.

00:21:46.000 You want to ask questions?

00:21:47.000 Put it on TV.

00:21:48.000 Let's see all of the testimony.

00:21:50.000 Democrats say they're hesitant to do this because they don't want Trump attacking, they don't want Trump going after witnesses.

00:21:55.000 Well, it seems to me that doing this out in the open would be a lot better for the American public.

00:21:59.000 Listen, I was open that I wanted the Mueller report released.

00:22:02.000 Okay, on the other side, I was a Republican saying I wanted every iota of the Mueller report released, I wanted the public to see it, they had legit questions, and those questions ought to be answered.

00:22:10.000 Well, the public has legit questions about this, and they deserve to see all of the answers that are being given behind closed doors.

00:22:16.000 And for all the talk about confidential information that's being put out there, what Like, we don't know what confidential information is being put out there, and I've yet to hear Democrats even vaguely refer to what the confidential information is.

00:22:28.000 It just seems like a very convenient excuse to keep everything fairly closed.

00:22:33.000 And that is, that is pretty absurd.

00:22:35.000 So, you see Matt Getz.

00:22:36.000 So, Matt Getz, the Republican from Florida, very close Trump ally, he came out yesterday and he slammed the Democrats.

00:22:41.000 He said that, you know, this is, this is a shutdown by Democrats.

00:22:44.000 They don't want all the information out there.

00:22:46.000 This was, look, a dramatic move.

00:22:47.000 It was obviously a dramatic move by Republicans in order to get camera attention on all this.

00:22:51.000 Democrats and the media are labeling this a misdirect effort by Republicans.

00:22:55.000 They don't want to talk about the topic, so instead, they're wildly spinning about the closed-door nature of this.

00:23:00.000 Yeah, except that if Democrats would comply with what Republicans wanted, there'd be more information, not less information, in the public view.

00:23:05.000 So...

00:23:06.000 Is it a little bit overblown?

00:23:07.000 Yeah.

00:23:08.000 Is it stagecraft?

00:23:09.000 Absolutely.

00:23:09.000 Just going to point out here that when Democrats occupied Congress, they shut down Congress, they slept on the floor of Congress about gun control a few years back.

00:23:18.000 The media couldn't get enough of it.

00:23:20.000 Republicans show up at the skiff and they protest outside and it's all Republican ploy.

00:23:24.000 Of course, it's a Republican ploy.

00:23:26.000 Of course, this is Republicans attempting to gain attention.

00:23:28.000 Like, yes, that's what it's for.

00:23:30.000 But does that mean that their basic complaint is illegitimate?

00:23:33.000 Here's Matt Gaetz making the complaint.

00:23:33.000 No.

00:23:35.000 I'm gathered here with dozens of my congressional colleagues, underground, in the basement of the Capitol, because if behind those doors they intend to overturn the results of an American presidential election, we want to know what's going on.

00:23:52.000 And it's only reasonable that we would have questions, because so far, Adam Schiff's impeachment inquiry has been marked by secret interviews, selective leaks, Weird theatrical performances of transcripts that never happened and lies about contacts with a whistleblower.

00:24:10.000 Okay, so the media are very upset about this.

00:24:12.000 According to the New York Times, about two dozen House Republicans chanting, let us in, let us in, stormed the secure room where a Defense Department official arrived Wednesday morning to testify in the impeachment inquiry, refusing to leave and delaying her testimony for hours.

00:24:23.000 And they're obstructionists.

00:24:24.000 When Democrats occupy Congress and sleep overnight, they're about gun control.

00:24:27.000 That's just them standing up for a position.

00:24:29.000 When Republicans do this for a few hours outside of SCIF, then all of a sudden it's the end of the world.

00:24:34.000 The lawmakers, most of whom do not sit on the committees conducting the inquiry and are therefore not entitled to attend its hearings, said they were protesting the closed-door nature of the proceedings, which have been open to members of both parties on the committees.

00:24:44.000 On the committees.

00:24:44.000 That's the key.

00:24:45.000 And when it comes to the leaks, the leaks have been incredibly selective.

00:24:48.000 Adam Schiff has been very leaky.

00:24:49.000 Adam Schiff is not somebody you trust to run this investigation.

00:24:52.000 Running this in public view makes a fair bit of sense.

00:24:55.000 The fact that people are sort of protesting, like, if you are in the media, wouldn't you want more information in the public view?

00:25:00.000 Why are you very upset at Republicans for calling for more information in the public view?

00:25:03.000 Republicans are hammering Democrats, according to the New York Times, for limiting attendance at the hearings to members of the intelligence, judiciary, and foreign affairs committees.

00:25:10.000 It is common practice for sensitive congressional investigations to be conducted in closed hearings, at least in their preliminary stages.

00:25:16.000 House Republicans did just that when they controlled the chamber and opened an inquiry into the 2012 attack on the U.S.

00:25:21.000 Embassy in Benghazi, Libya.

00:25:22.000 Yeah, the difference was they hadn't announced it was an impeachment inquiry, had they?

00:25:26.000 They hadn't come out and said this is an impeachment inquiry.

00:25:27.000 They said that we're looking into the issue.

00:25:29.000 If you wanted to do your preliminary work without announcing an impeachment inquiry, Nancy Pelosi, Republicans wouldn't have a lot to complain about.

00:25:35.000 But you announced this is now an impeachment inquiry, which means that it should be done out in the open.

00:25:39.000 Democrats say they plan to hold open hearings after the committee's finished opposing witnesses.

00:25:43.000 They intend to make public complete transcripts of witness testimony after they've been reviewed for classified material.

00:25:47.000 So, We will see if that's true.

00:25:49.000 If that's true, then these complaints are basically a bunch of nonsense.

00:25:51.000 If it is not true, then Democrats are holding this stuff back for purposes of selective leaking.

00:25:56.000 Democrats are looking to take the impeachment probe public, apparently, as soon as mid-November.

00:26:02.000 According to the Washington Post, they say over the past three weeks, a parade of current and former Trump administration officials have testified behind closed doors, providing House investigators with a compelling narrative of President Trump's campaign to extract political favors from Ukrainian officials.

00:26:15.000 But some Democrats are feeling pressure to advance public hearings in the hopes of avoiding further disruptions, which, of course, is exactly what they should do.

00:26:23.000 Republicans were very passionate about all this.

00:26:25.000 Some of this is performative for President Trump.

00:26:27.000 Some of this is performative for the camera.

00:26:28.000 Steve Scalise, the representative from Louisiana, said sort of the same thing.

00:26:32.000 He said, this sort of stuff was commonplace in the Soviet Union.

00:26:35.000 Yeah, it's over the top.

00:26:36.000 It just is.

00:26:37.000 But we'll see.

00:26:38.000 You know, look, if Democrats continue not to release any information, then maybe it's not over the top.

00:26:42.000 Here's Steve Scalise.

00:26:43.000 What is Adam Schiff trying to hide?

00:26:45.000 I think that's a question so many people have, so many of my colleagues have, so many people in the press should have, is through those hidden closed doors over there, Adam Schiff is trying to impeach a President of the United States behind closed doors, literally trying to overturn the results of the 2016 election A year before Americans get to go to the polls to decide who's going to be the president.

00:27:08.000 And frankly, it should be the people of this country who decide who's going to be the president, not Nancy Pelosi and not Adam Schiff in secret behind closed doors.

00:27:17.000 Okay, so Democrats are certainly feeling the pressure to go ahead and open the doors, which is a good thing.

00:27:22.000 Now, there is an amazing, amazing story from the New York Times today about President Trump.

00:27:28.000 It's called, Trump's War on the Deep State Turns Against Him.

00:27:31.000 They say, the impeachment inquiry is in some ways the culmination of a battle between the president and the government institutions he distrusted and disparaged.

00:27:38.000 He's the president of the United States.

00:27:39.000 It is not the job of the institutions he oversees to undermine his presidency.

00:27:44.000 Hey, that's not the way this is supposed to work.

00:27:46.000 Trump's whole complaint about the deep state, I was always under the impression that that was overwrought, but it's hard to say it's overwrought when the New York Times is out there bragging about the so-called deep state going after Trump.

00:27:56.000 That's not something that you want from the executive branch.

00:27:58.000 You can see why President Trump is very upset about all of this now.

00:28:01.000 Two things can be true at once.

00:28:03.000 It can be true that there are real open questions as to what happened in this whole Ukrainian investigation.

00:28:07.000 It can also be true that the Democrats are partisan hacks and the only reason they care about this is they want Trump out.

00:28:12.000 It can also be true that the deep state stuff now appears to be a lot more real than it did just a few weeks ago.

00:28:17.000 So all these things can simultaneously be true all the way through. 0.98

00:28:20.000 One thing that is not helpful, obviously, Is the president of the United States excoriating Republicans who disagree with him as quote-unquote human scum? 0.95

00:28:29.000 Like, if you're looking for supporters, this is probably not the way to do this. 0.76

00:28:32.000 He's presumably referring here to Bill Taylor, who was a Trump appointee, right?

00:28:39.000 It was the Trump administration who wanted Bill Taylor involved in Ukraine.

00:28:42.000 Trump says he has never met him.

00:28:44.000 Yeah, but you asked him to be there, dude.

00:28:46.000 Either you run your administration or you don't.

00:28:48.000 Trump tweeted out that never-Trumper Republicans, though on respirators with not many left, are in certain ways worse and more dangerous for our country than the do-nothing Democrats.

00:28:56.000 Watch out for them. 1.00

00:28:57.000 They are human scum. 1.00

00:28:59.000 I mean, you might want to reserve that language for ISIS. 1.00

00:29:01.000 Like, if we're gonna go human scum, Bill Taylor, the ambassador that you picked for Ukraine, probably it's a little bit much. 0.85

00:29:09.000 He said, he said, Never Trump or Republican John Bellinger represents never Trump or diplomat Bill Taylor, who I don't know, in testimony before Congress. 0.93

00:29:15.000 Do nothing Democrats allow Republicans.

00:29:17.000 Zero representation.

00:29:18.000 Zero due process.

00:29:19.000 Zero transparency.

00:29:20.000 Does anyone think this is fair?

00:29:21.000 Even though there was no quid pro quo, I'm sure they would like to try.

00:29:24.000 Worse than Dems.

00:29:25.000 It would be really great if the people within the Trump administration, all well-meaning and good, I hope, could stop hiring never-Trumpers, or worse than the do-nothing Democrats, nothing good will ever come from them.

00:29:34.000 So President Trump is attributing all of this to bias.

00:29:36.000 Now, does the bias against Trump exist?

00:29:38.000 Of course.

00:29:39.000 Are there people in the so-called deep state who despise Trump?

00:29:42.000 Of course that's true.

00:29:43.000 Do we know exactly what Trump did with Ukraine?

00:29:45.000 No.

00:29:46.000 Are there legit questions to be asked about Rudy Giuliani?

00:29:48.000 Sure.

00:29:49.000 Are Democrats' partisan hacks?

00:29:50.000 So if you can make sense out of that, you're a better person than I. All of this is sort of a miasma of gross.

00:29:50.000 Sure.

00:29:57.000 And it's sort of mutual poofling at this point. 0.94

00:29:59.000 Democrats suggesting Trump is obviously corrupt.

00:30:03.000 Not totally obvious, but there are questions.

00:30:06.000 Trump suggesting that Democrats are obviously partisan.

00:30:09.000 That's obviously true.

00:30:10.000 Republicans suggesting Democrats are doing all this behind closed doors.

00:30:13.000 That is also true right now.

00:30:15.000 It's all a bit of a mess.

00:30:17.000 And by a bit of a mess, I mean a very, very large-scale mess.

00:30:20.000 Now, meanwhile, The Democratic side of the aisle is a similar mess.

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00:31:33.000 So there's a reason Democrats are staking a lot of their hopes on all of this impeachment stuff.

00:31:38.000 And the reason is because their side of the aisle Is a complete and utter mess as well.

00:31:44.000 And so what you are starting to see, there's a poll, a CNN poll that showed, shockingly, that Joe Biden is now popping back up in the polling.

00:31:53.000 Why?

00:31:53.000 Because it turns out that as people get a second look at Elizabeth Warren, they're not really loving what they see.

00:31:57.000 CNN reports that Biden now has the support of 34% of Democratic and Democratic-leaning registered voters.

00:32:03.000 That is his best showing in CNN polling since just after his campaign's formal launch on April 25th.

00:32:07.000 So it looked like Elizabeth Warren was popping up into the lead.

00:32:10.000 And now according to that CNN poll and several other polls, Biden actually seems to be regaining the lead and widening it.

00:32:15.000 Why?

00:32:15.000 Because he's just default Democrat, right?

00:32:16.000 He's a dead guy who's running as a Democrat.

00:32:18.000 He's not even a sentient creature at this point, Joe Biden.

00:32:21.000 He's sort of wandering around bloviating and nobody knows what he thinks because he doesn't know what he thinks.

00:32:26.000 And he's drinking cans of Ensure and just saying words that don't exist in English.

00:32:31.000 And people are like, that guy.

00:32:32.000 Not Elizabeth Warren.

00:32:33.000 That guy.

00:32:34.000 Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts and Bernie Sanders of Vermont, according to CNN, are about even for a second.

00:32:39.000 19% and 16% behind them.

00:32:41.000 Mayor Pete Buttigieg and Senator Kamala Harris of California each have 6% support.

00:32:45.000 Amy Klobuchar and Beto is stuck at 3% each.

00:32:50.000 What's happening?

00:32:51.000 Well, Biden's rise, according to CNN, is coming from a consolidation of support among his core backers.

00:32:56.000 Who are taking a look at other candidates and then returning to him that polling data was collected from October 17th to 20th during the Hunter Biden news cycle.

00:33:04.000 So people are still seeing him as default Democrat, which is very good news for him. 1.00

00:33:09.000 And again, the reason for that, the Democratic field is terrible.

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00:33:41.000 You know, Donald Trump inherited a strong economy from Barack and me.

00:33:46.000 Things were beginning to really move.

00:33:49.000 And just like everything else he's inherited, he's in the midst of squandering it.

00:33:53.000 Squandering.

00:33:55.000 Okay, so there is Joe Biden making his very lackluster pitch, but that lackluster pitch is certainly better than Elizabeth Warren, as you will see in just one moment.

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00:36:52.000 So as I say, Joe Biden looking much better in that CNN poll.

00:36:56.000 And one of the reasons he's looking better is because Elizabeth Warren's looking worse.

00:36:58.000 Like, the more you see of Elizabeth Warren, the less you like her as a candidate.

00:37:02.000 Like, take for example this.

00:37:03.000 Elizabeth Warren, she's Hillary 2.0. 1.00

00:37:06.000 Or maybe she's Hillary 0.5. 1.00

00:37:07.000 I don't know.

00:37:08.000 Remember that famous tape of Hillary Clinton in Rapid City, Iowa, was it?

00:37:14.000 Or North Dakota?

00:37:15.000 I can't remember where she was.

00:37:16.000 She was somewhere in the Midwest.

00:37:18.000 And she is sitting at Cedar Rapids.

00:37:20.000 That's what it was.

00:37:20.000 And she says, here I am outside Cedar Rapids, chilling in Cedar Rapids with like a brew.

00:37:26.000 And everybody's like, this is the most fake, ridiculous thing I've ever seen. 0.94

00:37:30.000 Well, it was until now. 0.97

00:37:31.000 Wait until you see Elizabeth Warren talk up Waffle House. 1.00

00:37:35.000 Let's do some call time.

00:37:36.000 Mason works at a yoga studio.

00:37:38.000 Emily donated just after the Climate Town Hall.

00:37:41.000 Teacher in Springfield, Massachusetts.

00:37:43.000 Got Philippe.

00:37:44.000 Oh my gosh, Melody works at my favorite place, Waffle House. 1.00

00:37:49.000 If you think that Elizabeth Warren's favorite place is Waffle House, you're high.

00:37:55.000 If you truly believe that Elizabeth—she's a woman of the people.

00:37:57.000 Every day she goes on over to Waffle House, she has some of those chicken and waffles, and really enjoys herself.

00:38:02.000 She's a member of the waffle-eating—this is a lady who suggested that she won't even drink coffee, right? 1.00

00:38:08.000 Her favorite drink was like high-octane tea.

00:38:11.000 Because that's who Elizabeth Warren is.

00:38:12.000 Yeah, I'm sure that she's headed over to the Waffle House immediately upon the cessation of her latest rally.

00:38:18.000 She's going to head on over to the Waffle House.

00:38:20.000 And then you look at the other alternatives.

00:38:21.000 You got Cory Booker, Mr. Potato Head with the angry eyes, talking about how he's the alternative to Biden.

00:38:26.000 Well, people looking at him as the alternative to Biden, he's at 2% in the polls.

00:38:30.000 So no, that's not a thing.

00:38:32.000 So those Democrats who are looking for an alternative now, I want to make the case today very directly that look no further.

00:38:39.000 I can and have excited a diverse coalition of voters.

00:38:44.000 I can and have united progressives and moderates.

00:38:49.000 We need to keep the long view in mind.

00:38:52.000 Not just winning a primary, but beating Trump.

00:38:56.000 Understanding that this is a moral moment.

00:38:59.000 See, by excited a diverse coalition of voters, what he means is I have five friends and they're all of different ethnicities.

00:39:05.000 That's what he means.

00:39:06.000 He means he has a multiracial, very small room full of supporters, which is very exciting.

00:39:10.000 Excited, diverse coalition.

00:39:12.000 I love that.

00:39:14.000 It's a pretty spectacular euphemism.

00:39:17.000 These campaigns are not connecting with the heart of America right now.

00:39:20.000 Now, this is why President Trump really needs to cut out the shenanigans, because the fact is that so long as he remains top of the headlines, Democrats are going to benefit.

00:39:27.000 I mean, the polls right now on impeachment are not good for President Trump, but this Democratic field is extremely weak.

00:39:33.000 Plus, Hillary Clinton is waiting in the wings. 0.95

00:39:35.000 Philippe Raines, who was her chief of staff for many, many years, was on Fox News last night, and he actually said that Hillary is explicitly leaving the door open to jumping back into the race.

00:39:43.000 And if you're Hillary, as I've been saying now for a week, you gotta think to yourself, like, why not?

00:39:48.000 You think that, like, Joe Biden's it, guys?

00:39:51.000 Like, not Hillary, not this Hillary.

00:39:53.000 The country needs some Hillary. 0.85

00:39:54.000 And then she's got Tulsi Gabbard to pick on, right? 0.99

00:39:56.000 Tulsi is going at it with Hillary.

00:39:58.000 Tulsi, Slammed Hillary again. 1.00

00:40:00.000 She put out a new video saying that her foreign policy was a disaster.

00:40:03.000 Step down from your throne and fight with me.

00:40:06.000 It's funny how when I said that AOC should have a discussion slash debate with me, that's sexist.

00:40:11.000 When Tulsi Gabbard says that Hillary should step down off her throne and have a debate with Tulsi, that's just her being a hard-nosed politician. 1.00

00:40:16.000 Here's Tulsi going after Hillary Clinton. 0.99

00:40:17.000 Hillary Clinton, your foreign policy has been a disaster for our country and the world.

00:40:23.000 It's resulted in the deaths and injuries of so many of my brothers and sisters in uniform.

00:40:28.000 It's devastated entire countries, millions of lives lost.

00:40:32.000 It's time for you to acknowledge the damage that you've caused.

00:40:35.000 And it is long past time for you to step down from your throne so that the Democratic Party can lead with a new foreign policy, which will actually be in the interest of and benefit to the American people and the world.

00:40:49.000 So you want to know why the Democrats are so impeachment focused right now?

00:40:51.000 Take a look at that field and you tell me why the Democrats are so impeachment focused right now.

00:40:56.000 By the way, how bad is Elizabeth Warren's campaign? 0.98

00:40:59.000 And how hard are the media pushing her? 0.95

00:41:00.000 There is an opinion piece in the New York Times today by a woman named Alyssa Quart, the author of Thoughts and Prayers.

00:41:06.000 It's called Elizabeth Warren has a poet on her team.

00:41:08.000 Here's why that's a good idea.

00:41:10.000 And the entire thing is about why you need more poets in politics.

00:41:15.000 I don't even know how to pronounce this name, so I'm just going to butcher it.

00:41:19.000 Kamanhe Felix became the director of surrogates and strategic communications for Senator Elizabeth Warren's presidential campaign in June.

00:41:25.000 She's also the author of Build Yourself a Boat, a debut collection of poetry that was recently included on the long list for the National Book Award.

00:41:32.000 Felix's writings describe sexual assault, first-hand experience of abortion, and police violence, including poems about the trial of George Zimmerman, the man who shot Trayvon Martin.

00:41:32.000 Ms.

00:41:39.000 Should we be surprised about a link between the highest levels of our political world and our most acclaimed poetry?

00:41:44.000 I don't think so.

00:41:45.000 And I think we should get ready for more of it.

00:41:46.000 Because it's coming.

00:41:47.000 And we need it.

00:41:48.000 Desperately.

00:41:49.000 President Trump and his cronies alter our language for the worse, renaming white nationalists the alt-right and calling journalism fake news.

00:41:55.000 So we need more poets.

00:41:57.000 More poets and po- Good luck.

00:41:59.000 This is how you win back Michigan right here.

00:42:02.000 You win back those Michigan auto workers by going and getting the lady who's on the shortlist for the National Book Award for writing poems about her first-hand experience of abortion.

00:42:10.000 Perfect.

00:42:10.000 Well done, Elizabeth Warren campaign.

00:42:12.000 I can't imagine why everybody is so focused on, get rid of Trump now, because if we don't, we have serious trouble.

00:42:17.000 And meanwhile, the Democrats on Capitol Hill, I have to say, it's always amusing to watch members of Congress question members of big tech.

00:42:24.000 The reason is, members of Congress don't know what a computer is.

00:42:27.000 They're still using Abacuses, Abakai, and they are using like 1984 Macs.

00:42:34.000 Because they don't know what the internet is, they don't know what the internet is for.

00:42:38.000 And so this is, what, the third time that Mark Zuckerberg has testified on the Hill?

00:42:42.000 And you gotta feel bad for the guy, honestly.

00:42:44.000 Because when you see the questions he's being asked, it is so obvious that Democrats desperately want to take control of the creation that Zuckerberg created, and use it to control political rhetoric.

00:42:54.000 Hey, my friend Steven Crowder came out with information suggesting that YouTube was actually de-promoting results.

00:43:01.000 It was demoting results from Tulsi Gabbard in moments of great import to the Tulsi Gabbard campaign.

00:43:07.000 If big tech is doing that, I'm sure they are doing that at the behest of Democrats who would like to run this thing from above.

00:43:13.000 Because when you hear Democrats question Zuckerberg, what they want to do with the First Amendment, what they want to do with free speech, and what they want to do with big tech is truly frightening.

00:43:20.000 This is why when I hear Republicans and they're like, ah, the government should take control of big tech.

00:43:24.000 It's like, understand that Elizabeth Warren and AOC are going to be running that thing.

00:43:28.000 It ain't going to go well.

00:43:30.000 Take this example.

00:43:30.000 So AOC.

00:43:33.000 She's been a horror show in these questioning sessions. 0.95

00:43:36.000 She used to be good because she had a guy named Sycott Chakrabarty who was allegedly writing all of her questions.

00:43:40.000 He's gone.

00:43:41.000 So now she's writing her own questions.

00:43:43.000 And that's sort of like letting actors on set write their own lines, which is just a huge, huge mistake.

00:43:47.000 Here is AOC questioning Mark Zuckerberg, asking why Mark Zuckerberg would even do business with The Daily Caller, which of course is a conservative publication.

00:43:55.000 She says, The Daily Caller has ties to white supremacists.

00:43:58.000 Why would you even allow Daily Caller on your platform, basically?

00:44:01.000 Can you explain why you've named the Daily Caller a publication well-documented with ties to white supremacists as an official fact-checker for Facebook?

00:44:10.000 Congresswoman, sure. 0.57

00:44:12.000 We actually don't appoint the independent fact-checkers.

00:44:14.000 They go through an independent organization called the Independent Fact-Checking Network that has a rigorous standard for who they allow to serve as a fact-checker.

00:44:26.000 You would say that white supremacist-tied publications meet a rigorous standard for fact-checking?

00:44:34.000 And Zuckerberg's like, is that English?

00:44:36.000 Was that last question English?

00:44:38.000 It is true, by the way.

00:44:39.000 They have an actual process by which they deem somebody a fact-checker on Facebook.

00:44:45.000 And as for the quote-unquote ties to white supremacists, I assume that she's referring to a couple of low-level writers for The Daily Caller who ended up being fired after old Facebook posts came out from like 10 years ago or 5 years ago or whatever it was.

00:44:56.000 The Daily Caller does not have documented ties to white supremacist groups.

00:44:59.000 That's insane.

00:45:00.000 That's insane.

00:45:01.000 It's like saying that James Hodgkinson, who is the mass shooter of Republican Congress people, was a member of the Bernie campaign, and therefore Bernie has ties to mass shootings.

00:45:09.000 That's just bizarre and crazy.

00:45:12.000 Democrats want control of the methods of dissemination of information.

00:45:17.000 They made that perfectly clear to Zuckerberg.

00:45:20.000 Do they understand what Facebook is for?

00:45:23.000 They were attacking Zuckerberg over Facebook, and they were attacking Zuckerberg Over the creation of Libra, which is basically a Bitcoin thing, right?

00:45:31.000 And Bitcoin, in my opinion, is generally a good.

00:45:33.000 I like the idea of people being able to barter and exchange using a currency that is not under the control of a centralized government.

00:45:39.000 I don't like the idea that the United States government can simply devalue their currency whenever they please.

00:45:44.000 It's bizarre to me.

00:45:45.000 So all these congresspeople were attacking Libra, and they were attacking Facebook, but doing so in, like, the weirdest possible way.

00:45:52.000 In the most bizarre possible way.

00:45:53.000 So, take for example, do we have this clip of Maxine Waters talking about misinformation?

00:45:59.000 So, Maxine Waters questioned Zuckerberg, and she asked specifically about whether Zuckerberg was putting out misinformation, and AOC did the same thing, like, well, are you willing to put out campaign ads that have overt lies in them?

00:46:11.000 And Zuckerberg's like, well, Not if they're suppressing votes, right?

00:46:16.000 I mean that has an actual impact, but it's not our job to evaluate for our readers true and false coming from prominent politicians.

00:46:23.000 That's their job.

00:46:25.000 More information is better.

00:46:26.000 And Maxine Waters can't handle it because Maxine Waters is not a logical human being. 1.00

00:46:30.000 Facebook itself actually does not fact check.

00:46:33.000 What we do is we have feedback that people in our community don't want to see viral hoaxes or Or kind of widespread.

00:46:40.000 So let me be clear, you do no fact-checking on any ads, is that correct?

00:46:45.000 Chairwoman, what we do is we work with a set of independent fact-checkers who... Somebody fact-checks on ads.

00:46:54.000 You contract with someone to do that, is that right?

00:46:59.000 Chairwoman, yes.

00:47:00.000 And tell me, who is it that they fact-checked on?

00:47:05.000 I mean, she's just saying nonsensical questions.

00:47:07.000 She's conflating everything.

00:47:09.000 The policy of Facebook is that when politicians put out ads, they do not fact check the ads for taking down because they feel the fact checkers are then going to fact check those ads.

00:47:17.000 When it comes to people putting out direct attacks on people that are not politicians, when it comes to political speech, in other words, Facebook takes a pretty broad view.

00:47:27.000 When it comes to, supposedly, when it comes to, you know, an advertiser who is advertising a product and they're slandering somebody, then Facebook won't put that up.

00:47:34.000 That seems fairly clear.

00:47:35.000 But these people don't understand even, like, the basics of how Facebook works.

00:47:39.000 Because they've just decided that Big Tech is the bad guy unless they can control Big Tech.

00:47:39.000 Why?

00:47:42.000 Like, listen to what they actually want. 0.99

00:47:43.000 Here's some of the dumb—those were the more intelligent questions, believe it or not. 0.98

00:47:47.000 You ready for this one? 0.99

00:47:48.000 Here's Al Green, Representative Al Green.

00:47:50.000 I believe he's from New York.

00:47:51.000 Asking, how many LGBT people work on the Bitcoin Libra?

00:47:56.000 Like, what?

00:47:57.000 What? 0.67

00:47:58.000 That's like saying, how many gay people work at the United States Mint?

00:48:02.000 Like, what does that have to do with anything? 0.92

00:48:03.000 Like, would it make the US dollar less legitimate if there are fewer than 3% of the people who work on the US dollar are gay? 0.94

00:48:09.000 Like, what? 1.00

00:48:10.000 Here's Green being a complete moron. 1.00

00:48:13.000 One would assume that you would know who heads these corporations that are going to be running this global company. 0.99

00:48:28.000 How many of them are minorities, Mr. Zuckerberg?

00:48:34.000 Congressman, I do not know off the top of my head.

00:48:38.000 Are there any members of the LGBTQ plus community associated with This association, Mr. Zuckerberg.

00:48:47.000 What?

00:48:48.000 Hold up.

00:48:49.000 Hold up.

00:48:50.000 So how many transgender people are working on Libra?

00:48:50.000 Al Green.

00:48:53.000 Like you're getting called in front of Congress.

00:48:55.000 I feel like Congress may have overstepped its boundaries just a little bit.

00:49:00.000 And listen, I don't trust Zuckerberg and I don't trust anybody.

00:49:03.000 Listen, I don't trust anybody.

00:49:04.000 I don't trust anybody in big tech to keep to their promises.

00:49:05.000 But Zuckerberg has at least articulated a standard.

00:49:09.000 You think I trust Al Green who is questioning whether Libra should be able to go forward based on how many people who believe they are a member of the opposite sex are working on the tech for Libra?

00:49:17.000 Like, what in the... It's insanity.

00:49:21.000 You want those people in charge of the country? 0.99

00:49:23.000 You want Elizabeth Warren in charge of the country? 1.00

00:49:25.000 You want those folks? 0.86

00:49:26.000 I don't.

00:49:27.000 I don't.

00:49:27.000 Okay, time for some quick things that I hate.

00:49:32.000 There is a poll out about Jewish Americans.

00:49:34.000 Apparently, nearly a third of Jewish Americans say they've hidden their religious identity or avoided carrying items that would identify oneself as Jewish in public due to threats of anti-Semitism, according to a poll released by the American Jewish Committee.

00:49:45.000 Apparently, 31% of respondents said they had avoided publicly wearing, carrying, or displaying things that might help people identify them as a Jew.

00:49:52.000 I mean, frankly, you know, look, I wear a kippah everywhere.

00:49:56.000 In the United States, I feel very, very safe as a Jew.

00:49:58.000 There are certain areas where if I'm walking around, I'm probably going to wear a baseball cap because I feel like they're less safe for Jews. 0.65

00:50:04.000 That is not any great shock.

00:50:06.000 And that is why, among other reasons, Jerusalem, where we are broadcasting from, matters.

00:50:11.000 And the fact is that anti-Semitism is a deep part of world thought.

00:50:17.000 The fact is that Jew hatred tends to crop up incredibly regularly.

00:50:20.000 We are not yet Two generations removed from the Holocaust. 0.87

00:50:25.000 The fact is that anti-Semitism crops up everywhere from Williamsburg, New York to the halls of white supremacists in Washington State.

00:50:33.000 Like, this is a real thing.

00:50:34.000 And that's why a state of Israel that defends Jews, that is a place where Jews can go if things get rough, is a very, very important thing.

00:50:42.000 I will also point out that I'm quite amused by Ilhan Omar, who's an overt anti-Semite. 0.57

00:50:47.000 I mean, Ilhan Omar hates Jews. 0.97

00:50:48.000 She hates the state of Israel. 0.93

00:50:50.000 Which are not quite the same thing, but tend to be heavily related.

00:50:53.000 Not everybody who is anti-Israel is anti-Semitic, but everybody who's anti-Semitic is anti-Israel.

00:50:57.000 I've yet to meet an anti-Semite who's really, really pro-Israel.

00:50:59.000 Just is not a thing that exists.

00:51:00.000 In any case, Ilhan Omar had a piece today called, And she made the case that the United States should not put sanctions on Turkey, Even though Turkey ran roughshod over the Kurds.

00:51:12.000 The United States should not involve itself in sanctions.

00:51:15.000 She says, in so much of our foreign policy, we rely on muscle memory and a limited toolbox to decide the best course of action.

00:51:20.000 Too often, sanctions regimes are ill-considered, incoherent, and counterproductive.

00:51:25.000 Except for the Jews, right? 1.00

00:51:27.000 Ilhan Omar is totally fine with everybody on earth, including states, boycotting the Jewish state, the only democracy in the Middle East. 0.88

00:51:33.000 But if you're going to, if you suggest that you're going to put economic sanctions on Islamic dictatorship in Turkey that just bombed the living daylights out of the Kurds, that, Ilhan Omar is very much against that.

00:51:41.000 That is very, if, she also says we should not have sanctions on Venezuela, where people have, been relegated to eating their household pets because everybody is starving in Venezuela thanks to socialism.

00:51:51.000 She says that we should not put sanctions on Venezuela or Iran.

00:51:55.000 She says we should not have sanctions on Iran either.

00:51:58.000 She says that sanctions have simultaneously strengthened the Iranian regime's credibility at home and united human rights activists and the Iran leadership in opposition to the strategy.

00:52:05.000 If you're a human rights activist and you're very, very pro-Iran in their fight against the sanctions, you're not very much of a human rights activist.

00:52:11.000 But, so she, just to get this straight, No sanctions on Venezuela.

00:52:14.000 No sanctions on Iran.

00:52:15.000 No sanctions on Turkey.

00:52:17.000 Divestment, boycott, and sanctions against Israel.

00:52:20.000 Right?

00:52:20.000 The last letter of BDS is sanctions.

00:52:22.000 So she wants sanctions on the Jews, but nobody else.

00:52:25.000 But don't worry, guys.

00:52:26.000 Antisemitism is totally dead.

00:52:27.000 There's no reason for the state of Israel to exist.

00:52:29.000 Jews don't need any place to live because they're well accepted everywhere, obviously.

00:52:32.000 I mean, look, Ilhan Omar is just against sanctions.

00:52:36.000 She doesn't like sanctions for anybody except people who wear funny hats.

00:52:40.000 And have names ending in like Baumanstein.

00:52:42.000 That's not because she hates those people.

00:52:44.000 It's just because those people happen to be really greedy and money-grubbing.

00:52:47.000 And because they're so mean to people of other religions. 0.95

00:52:49.000 I mean, let's be straight about this.

00:52:51.000 They're hypnotizing the world.

00:52:52.000 But anti-Semitism is totally dead, which is why Israel should give up sovereignty over Jerusalem and basically just, you know...

00:52:58.000 Move off into the mists of history.

00:52:59.000 Israel is no longer necessary. 0.99

00:53:01.000 Say the anti-Semites who also hate Jews. 0.98

00:53:03.000 Perfect. 0.86

00:53:03.000 Thank you. 0.86

00:53:04.000 Thank you, Ilhan Omar.

00:53:04.000 I really appreciate it.

00:53:05.000 Okay, you know what?

00:53:06.000 We've done enough things that I hate today.

00:53:09.000 You know, one more quick thing that I hate.

00:53:10.000 So, the media, President Trump's lawyer is defending President Trump today because President Trump is trying to defend himself against attempts to go after his tax returns.

00:53:21.000 Well, attorneys for President Trump said that if President Trump shot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue, New York authorities could not punish him while he's in office.

00:53:28.000 That's what the president's lawyers argued.

00:53:30.000 And this was treated as a grand revelation.

00:53:32.000 How could you possibly say that if Trump murdered someone on Fifth Avenue, he couldn't be prosecuted?

00:53:37.000 Literally everybody believes this.

00:53:39.000 Okay, this is well-established jurisprudence in the United States.

00:53:43.000 The President of the United States is not subject to state criminal sanctions while he is in office.

00:53:47.000 If Trump were to shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue, he would have to be impeached.

00:53:49.000 Why?

00:53:50.000 Because what you don't want is 50 state attorney generals prosecuting the President of the United States while he is in office.

00:53:55.000 Which is exactly what would happen.

00:53:56.000 But this is being treated as a great revelation by the media because the media obviously have a dog in this particular fight.

00:54:01.000 Okay.

00:54:02.000 We'll be back here tomorrow from a less beautiful location.

00:54:04.000 Otherwise, you can join us a little bit later today for two additional hours from this beautiful location.

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00:54:40.000 After weeks of closed-door Democratic impeachment meetings, Congressman Matt Gaetz leads a group of Republicans to storm the secretive deposition room to demand transparency.

00:54:51.000 Meanwhile, a top aide to Hillary Clinton signals that America's favorite battle axe may be running again.

00:54:57.000 Some fear the U.S.

00:54:58.000 is headed towards civil war.

00:55:00.000 I fear a far more dreadful future.

00:55:02.000 We are becoming Great Britain.

The Ben Shapiro Show - October 24, 2019

The Poop-Flinging Begins | Ep. 882

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