The Ben Shapiro Show - The Tide Rises | Ep. 982

00:00:00.000 Dr. Anthony Fauci predicts 100,000 to 200,000 dead from coronavirus in the United States.

00:00:06.000 China's lies continue. 0.81

00:00:07.000 And President Trump extends his social distancing measures to the end of April.

00:00:10.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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00:00:32.000 Well, before we get to the news, you may have noticed that the stock market has been a little bit volatile.

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00:01:54.000 All right, so first we begin.

00:01:56.000 I hope that you had a wonderful weekend, or at least a somewhat relaxing weekend, given the fact that there is nothing to be relaxed about.

00:02:03.000 I mean, if you're not having nightmares at this point, if you are not nervous, if your blood pressure is in higher than Really good for you and please tell me how you're doing it because the reality is that while concern is absolutely normal, panic is not out of the question given all the news that has been coming in.

00:02:20.000 You know, the fact is that you can't watch the footage from New York City where you're seeing hospitals that are beginning to be overrun, you're seeing emergency rooms that are full, you're seeing coronavirus patients who are racking up In these ERs, you're seeing tape of people being moved out in body bags to morgues and all this stuff is supremely scary.

00:02:39.000 And then you look at the pictures of the empty streets in New York City and Los Angeles.

00:02:42.000 And I mean, this is different than anything in living memory for people in the United States.

00:02:47.000 probably for literally everyone.

00:02:48.000 Because how many people actually remember the Spanish flu pandemic?

00:02:52.000 And even during the Spanish flu pandemic, one of the big issues is that there was no nationwide shutdown, which is why the thing became so deadly in the first place.

00:02:58.000 And nobody has ever seen anything like this.

00:03:00.000 It's a global thing right now.

00:03:02.000 I mean, what we have seen globally is the streets cleared everywhere from the UK to Israel to Italy.

00:03:08.000 I mean, it's just all over the planet.

00:03:10.000 People are hunkering down and basically waiting for summer to come and hoping that it kills off this virus.

00:03:16.000 Right now, the latest statistics on coronavirus are that globally, we now have 730.

00:03:22.000 741,914 cases.

00:03:24.000 So almost three quarters of a million cases of coronavirus that have been diagnosed.

00:03:28.000 We have 35,000 deaths globally from coronavirus.

00:03:32.000 And we are watching this thing surge in a lot of Western countries because most of these Western countries are following the path that has already been trod unfortunately by Italy and Spain.

00:03:43.000 I don't want to say most of them are treading that path, but certainly enough of them are looking at that path that it's obviously very scary.

00:03:49.000 Over the weekend, Italy continued to escalate the number of deaths.

00:03:52.000 They now have almost 11,000 total deaths in Italy out of 97,000 confirmed cases.

00:03:56.000 Again, those confirmed cases, that confirmed case number is not really a good and useful number.

00:04:03.000 I discussed this with both Vice President Mike Pence and Dr. Deborah Birx on the Sunday special yesterday.

00:04:07.000 But the fact is that confirmed cases is a bad number because that's the people who are actually coming in for a test.

00:04:11.000 Apparently there are 5 to 10 people for every person who comes in for a test who are non-symptomatic or experiencing very slight symptoms, don't come in for a test, or who came in for a test and didn't get a test.

00:04:20.000 So a confirmed case number is not actually the number we should be looking at.

00:04:23.000 Also, there are tons of countries that are wildly underreporting this stuff, as we'll get to when we get to talking about China, which is continuing to lie about all of this stuff.

00:04:30.000 You've seen the media triumphantly, many of them, I mean really, it's almost triumphantly, announcing that the United States is number one in coronavirus cases, as though this is an indicator of the evils of the American system.

00:04:40.000 The reality is that there's no question that China is number one and they've been lying to the world about all of this. 0.95

00:04:44.000 We'll get to that a little bit later.

00:04:45.000 However, you've seen an uptick in death in Spain, where there are now 7,340 deaths as of this hour, including 537 deaths yesterday.

00:04:53.000 You've seen an uptick in death in Iran.

00:04:56.000 They've been lying about this.

00:04:57.000 They say that they only have 2,700 deaths in Iran.

00:05:00.000 That is very unlikely.

00:05:01.000 Sources on the inside in Iran say that it is multiple times that number.

00:05:05.000 In the UK, you've got 1,400 deaths with 187 deaths added just yesterday.

00:05:09.000 And in the United States, right here at home, we've had 2,600 total deaths in the United States, which certainly is a multiplication of what we had last week.

00:05:21.000 I mean, early last week, we were talking about 200 deaths, 250 deaths, and then the exponential growth began.

00:05:28.000 And so we have seen day over day total coronavirus cases going up.

00:05:31.000 That's because we are doing additional testing, which is good.

00:05:33.000 We've seen total coronavirus deaths going up exponentially as well, which obviously is quite bad.

00:05:38.000 On March 27th, there were 400 daily deaths from coronavirus.

00:05:41.000 March 28th, 525 deaths from coronavirus.

00:05:43.000 And March 29th, 362 deaths.

00:05:46.000 This is according to the Johns Hopkins map of the situation.

00:05:50.000 So obviously very, very scary times.

00:05:52.000 And President Trump, acknowledging how scary these times are, he has now pushed back his deadline on when he thinks people are going to get back to work.

00:05:59.000 It was always an optimistic deadline.

00:06:00.000 Nobody seriously thought, who had studied this issue, that we were getting back to work on April 12th.

00:06:05.000 Even Dr. Fauci had got out there.

00:06:06.000 He said that was President Trump sort of trying to be optimistic.

00:06:09.000 But President Trump extended the social distancing guidelines that he put forward.

00:06:12.000 Basically, stay at home, stay away from other people, no big events.

00:06:15.000 He had extended that through the end of April.

00:06:17.000 That is the very earliest that we are going to start to see people Moving out back into the world again. 0.96

00:06:22.000 And that, again, would be largely reliant on warming temperatures in the United States.

00:06:26.000 So start rooting for global warming now, guys.

00:06:28.000 Here's President Trump talking about extending social distancing through the end of April.

00:06:32.000 Have to follow the guidelines that our great Vice President holds up a lot.

00:06:37.000 He's holding that up a lot.

00:06:39.000 He believes in it so strongly.

00:06:41.000 The better you do, the faster this whole nightmare will end.

00:06:49.000 Therefore, we will be extending our guidelines to April 30th to slow the spread.

00:06:58.000 On Tuesday, we will be finalizing these plans and providing a summary of our findings, supporting data, and strategy to the American people.

00:07:08.000 So President Trump was, in fact, retreating from the desire to relax all of that by mid-April, but the numbers just did not support that.

00:07:15.000 The latest numbers suggest, in fact, that this thing is going to peak around the time that President Trump was talking about people maybe starting to get back to work.

00:07:22.000 According to Axios, April is going to be very hard, but public health officials are in agreement that hunkering down and weathering one of the darkest months in American history is the only way to prevent perhaps millions of American deaths.

00:07:32.000 Estimates now being echoed by the Trump administration find that the U.S.

00:07:35.000 coronavirus outbreak should peak in about two weeks.

00:07:37.000 That is if everybody hunkers down now.

00:07:39.000 So if you are out and about and you are not hunkering down right now, then you're probably lengthening the amount of time before everybody can sort of go back to normal, unless you're out in more rural areas where there's not a lot of social interaction anyway.

00:07:50.000 But if you're in a major city and you're going out to the beaches and you're hanging out with other people and you are perpetuating the spread of this thing, you are doing something wrong.

00:07:56.000 Deborah Birx, who's coordinating the White House coronavirus response, Mentioned by name, a University of Washington Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, they predicted that demand for hospital beds and supplies, including ventilators, will far exceed supply as of April 14th, barring some sort of radical uptick.

00:07:56.000 You shouldn't be doing it.

00:08:12.000 On that day, according to that particular model, 2,300 coronavirus deaths are expected in one day, which of course would be a massive, massive number of deaths.

00:08:19.000 In the United States, about 7,500 people die every day, so that'd be increasing the death rate on top of that by about Well, that'd be 40% on top of that.

00:08:31.000 It'd be exactly one third.

00:08:31.000 Sorry, one third.

00:08:33.000 It'd be increasing the death rate by about one third on top of the normal death rate.

00:08:36.000 That model predicts that 81,000 Americans will die over the next four months, and that is assuming strong adherence to social distancing measures.

00:08:42.000 Without social distancing, as many as 2.2 million Americans Could die, according to President Trump.

00:08:47.000 That was the number of deaths that was predicted by the Imperial College report that came out a little bit earlier this month.

00:08:52.000 That, of course, is at war with another report that came out from Oxford University suggesting that the death rates are much lower than all of that.

00:08:58.000 Bottom line is, nobody knows at this point.

00:09:01.000 Nobody knows how bad things are going to get right here.

00:09:04.000 Dr. Anthony Fauci yesterday, he estimated that even with the strong social distancing measures, we could see 100,000 to 200,000 dead in the United States.

00:09:11.000 When you use numbers like a million, a million and a half, two million, that almost certainly is off the chart.

00:09:18.000 Now, it's not impossible, but very, very unlikely.

00:09:22.000 So it's difficult to present.

00:09:23.000 I mean, looking at what we're seeing now, you know, I would say between 100 and 200,000 cases.

00:09:28.000 But I don't want to be held to that because it's it's it's excuse me, deaths.

00:09:33.000 I mean, we're going to have millions of cases.

00:09:35.000 But I just don't think that we really need to make a projection.

00:09:40.000 When it's such a moving target that you can so easily be wrong.

00:09:45.000 Okay, so because of that, I would take the $100,000 to $200,000 with a slight grain of salt.

00:09:52.000 The University of Washington model said $81,000.

00:09:54.000 Also, Fauci's not giving a period on that.

00:09:56.000 Does he mean over the course of the year?

00:09:57.000 Does he mean over the course of the next few months?

00:09:59.000 Unclear from his statement.

00:10:01.000 Here's one thing that is clear.

00:10:03.000 If you're a public health official, what you don't want to do is lowball the estimate, right?

00:10:06.000 You want to highball the estimate.

00:10:07.000 You want to say that the number of deaths is going to be higher than the number of deaths that come in.

00:10:11.000 Number one, because you'd prefer that people are a little bit more scared than not, so that they stay home.

00:10:15.000 But number two, because you don't want to look as though you are downplaying the effect of the virus.

00:10:19.000 So you always want to be on the upper end of that particular estimate.

00:10:22.000 That is a big number.

00:10:23.000 That's a big number.

00:10:24.000 That's twice the number of deaths that we see from the flu in an average year in the United States.

00:10:28.000 If you're talking about 200,000, it's four times the average that you're seeing from the flu in the United States.

00:10:32.000 Now, that would still suggest that Fauci is holding by his original estimate in the New England Journal of Medicine that this thing is about as deadly as the flu.

00:10:38.000 It's just far, far more widespread because the replication rate on the thing is 2.5 to 3, as opposed to the flu, which is like 1.5.

00:10:45.000 Maybe if you have the flu, you infect one person, maybe half of another person.

00:10:50.000 I don't know which half, but if you are a person who is infected with coronavirus, good shot that you've infected two to three other people.

00:10:58.000 President Trump says by June 1st we'll be on our way to recovery, which of course is a far cry from April 12th, where I've been at six weeks off.

00:11:06.000 And Dr. Fauci said, the idea that we may have these cases, many cases played a role in our decision to try to make sure that we don't do something prematurely and pull back when we should be pushing.

00:11:15.000 It is pretty obvious that what you don't want to do is tell people that everything is okay, because getting people to do this again is going to be much more difficult than getting them to do it the first time.

00:11:24.000 That is pretty obvious.

00:11:25.000 Dr. Deborah Birx came out yesterday.

00:11:27.000 She said no metro area is going to be spared.

00:11:28.000 Cities particularly are going to be pretty hard hit.

00:11:30.000 Here was Deborah Birx on Meet the Press.

00:11:32.000 That's the way pandemics work and that's why we all are deeply concerned and why we've been raising the alert in all metro areas and in all states.

00:11:40.000 No state, no metro area will be spared and the sooner we react and the sooner the states and the metro areas react and ensure that they put in full mitigation at the same time understanding exactly what their hospitals need, then we'll be able to move forward together and protect the most Americans.

00:11:59.000 And that is the big question, is whether we are going to exceed our capacity.

00:12:02.000 Governor John Bel Edwards, who's a Democrat from Louisiana, he said on Meet the Press, if we don't flatten the curve, we're on a trajectory currently to exceed our capacity in New Orleans for ventilators by about April 4th.

00:12:11.000 All beds available in hospitals by about April 10th.

00:12:13.000 So we're doing everything we can to surge capacity.

00:12:15.000 It's very difficult.

00:12:17.000 Of course, you're seeing anecdotal evidence from New York City that hospitals are having a tough time with the surge.

00:12:22.000 It is not clear from data, like hard data at this point, whether capacity has been or when it will be exceeded.

00:12:29.000 We'll keep looking for that data.

00:12:30.000 Right now, it's all anecdotal.

00:12:31.000 We'll get to more of this in just one second.

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00:13:43.000 Okay, so a couple of pieces of positive news in an extremely, extremely dark time.

00:13:49.000 Health insurers have said that they are going to protect their customers from out-of-pocket costs if they need treatment for COVID-19 because obviously during an epidemic, you want to make sure that people aren't infecting each other by staying home.

00:13:58.000 Instead, if they're really sick, you want them going to the hospital.

00:14:01.000 By the way, If you are really sick, do go to a hospital.

00:14:04.000 Especially if you're in a metro area.

00:14:04.000 Okay?

00:14:05.000 If you are seriously ill, go to a hospital.

00:14:07.000 I know there are a lot of people saying, don't go to the hospital because maybe they're overrun, or maybe you'll be worse treated at a hospital.

00:14:12.000 If you're really ill, you need to go to the hospital.

00:14:15.000 Do not stay home.

00:14:16.000 And you'll know when you need to go to the hospital.

00:14:17.000 It's what I've been told by doctors.

00:14:19.000 That it gets so severe, you're having trouble breathing.

00:14:21.000 Go to the hospital.

00:14:22.000 Don't wait until it has already Been difficult to perfuse your lungs with oxygen.

00:14:27.000 Get there while you are still sentient and breathing, would be the rule.

00:14:32.000 Two of the nation's largest health insurers, Cigna and Humana, agreed to protect their customers from out-of-pocket costs if they need treatment, a decision that represents a rapid change in how companies are responding to the pandemic, according to the New York Times.

00:14:42.000 Describing the insurer's decision as a big deal, President Trump on Sunday said companies don't waive co-pays too easily.

00:14:47.000 We asked them.

00:14:48.000 They did it.

00:14:49.000 While insurers and government officials have taken steps in recent weeks to limit people's out-of-pocket costs when they get tested, the bills associated with treatment for COVID can run in the tens of thousands of dollars for a single hospital stay.

00:14:59.000 David M. Kordani, the chief executive of Cigna, said, Under the new policy, customers don't have to worry about the financial burden of the virus while their lives are being turned upside down, said Bruce Broussard.

00:15:10.000 The Chief Executive of Humana.

00:15:11.000 Remember when industry was super duper duper terrible and evil and horrible and terrible and evil?

00:15:15.000 Turns out private industry is really stepping into the breach in a lot of these situations.

00:15:19.000 Last week, another large insurer, Aetna, which is now part of CVS Health, said it would waive cost sharing related to hospital stays.

00:15:27.000 Employers that self-insure provide coverage to the majority of workers in this country.

00:15:30.000 They would not be affected by the insurer's decision.

00:15:32.000 They would have to decide individually whether they would take similar action.

00:15:35.000 It's going to be a client-by-client decision, said Cordani.

00:15:38.000 So that is, that at least is a piece of good news.

00:15:40.000 The insurers are trying to relieve the burden from that.

00:15:42.000 Another piece of good news, the FDA has issued emergency authorization of hydroxychloroquine.

00:15:47.000 And the media are upset about this for some reason.

00:15:48.000 Some members of the media.

00:15:49.000 I mean, listen to the, listen to the sub-headline over at Politico.

00:15:53.000 FDA issues emergency authorization of anti-malaria drug for coronavirus care.

00:15:58.000 The drugs have been championed by President Donald Trump for treatment, despite scant evidence.

00:16:02.000 Okay, the emergency use authorization means people are on their deathbed, like they are going to die.

00:16:09.000 And the FDA is saying, these people who are going to die, you know what would be better than death?

00:16:13.000 Trying this thing that has not yet been tried in clinical trials, but has shown some promise.

00:16:17.000 And Politico's first response is, why would the FDA waive these rules? 1.00

00:16:20.000 What are you, an idiot? 1.00

00:16:21.000 They're waiving the rules because people are on their deathbeds and they want the treatment that they think may have shown some promise. 1.00

00:16:26.000 Here is President Trump yesterday in the Rose Garden announcing that hydroxychloroquine is being used in New York City.

00:16:32.000 I want to point out that the hydroxychloroquine is being administered to 1,100 patients, people in New York, along with the Z-Pak, which is azithromycin.

00:16:49.000 And it's very early yet.

00:16:52.000 It started two days ago.

00:16:55.000 But we will see what happens.

00:16:58.000 The agency is allowing for the drugs to be donated to the Strategic National Stockpile to be distributed and prescribed by doctors to hospitalize teen and adult patients with COVID-19 when a clinical trial is not available or feasible.

00:17:07.000 See, I don't know why the media would be upset about this, considering a clinical trial is not available or feasible. 0.99

00:17:13.000 We're in the middle of a pandemic, you morons. 0.94

00:17:15.000 Seriously, one of the big problems with the FDA, I mean, there's been a push by Republicans for years for right-to-try legislation that basically suggests if you are a terminal patient, Then you should be able to try anything that you want to try. 0.99

00:17:28.000 You shouldn't be held back by the FDA approving clinical trials of particular material.

00:17:33.000 And believe it or not, people in hospitals, doctors, are not going to start prescribing fish tank cleaner or as they have been in Iran.

00:17:41.000 I'm not kidding.

00:17:42.000 They were using toxic methanol.

00:17:45.000 Seriously, people were telling them, take toxic methanol, and people were giving it to their kids, and their kids were getting blinded by it, because things in Iran turned out to be quite horrible. 1.00

00:17:53.000 This virus is bad enough without stupidity causing people to die. 0.84

00:17:56.000 So if everybody could quit with the fish tank cleaner, the eating of the bats, and the taking of the toxic methanol, that would be extremely helpful at this point. 0.99

00:18:03.000 If a doctor prescribes hydroxychloroquine based on the fact that it's shown some promise, and you're on your deathbed, like, what are you whining about, that the FDA removed the regulation here?

00:18:12.000 The move was supported by the White House, part of a larger Trump-backed effort to speed the use of anti-malaria drugs as a potential therapy for a virus that has no proven treatment or cure.

00:18:19.000 FDA already has allowed New York State to test administering the medication to seriously ill patients.

00:18:24.000 Some hospitals have added it to their treatment protocols.

00:18:26.000 Trump himself said at a press briefing, let's see how it works, it may and it may not.

00:18:31.000 HHS Secretary Alex Azar tweeted on Sunday night, scientists in America around the world have identified multiple potential therapeutics for COVID-19, including chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine.

00:18:41.000 Career scientists have been skeptical of the effort, noting the lack of data.

00:18:44.000 Seriously?

00:18:48.000 This is where you're going to draw the line, guys?

00:18:50.000 I feel like this is probably not the place you want to draw the line.

00:18:53.000 Meanwhile, Dr. Anthony Fauci is saying, we are ramping up capacity, another piece of good news.

00:18:57.000 People are going to get what they need.

00:18:59.000 And also, there's this push by the media that suggests that President Trump has to have a good personal relationship with governors in order to help supply them from the federal level.

00:19:07.000 And Fauci's like, Calm yourselves down.

00:19:09.000 That's not what's happening here.

00:19:10.000 People who hate Trump are still getting what they need, which, by the way, is true.

00:19:13.000 I mean, I'm going to show you two different, I'm going to show you two different Democratic governors in a second who are thanking the feds for their response on this.

00:19:19.000 Here's Fauci saying, this is not a personal thing.

00:19:21.000 This is just business, Sonny.

00:19:23.000 One way or the other, he needs the ventilators that he needs.

00:19:28.000 And hopefully, we will get him the ventilators that he needs.

00:19:31.000 They may be closer to him than is realized, but if they're not, we'll get them there.

00:19:36.000 And if they are, we'll try to help him get access to the ones that are there.

00:19:41.000 I mean, I know the spirit of the task force, and when we talk about when people need things, it doesn't matter who they are.

00:19:48.000 We try to get them what they need.

00:19:51.000 Okay, and that, of course, is absolutely true.

00:19:53.000 Like, for example, Louisiana Governor John Bel Edwards, he says the stimulus that you guys have all been criticizing, that you and the media have been ripping, is insufficient.

00:20:00.000 The stimulus is definitely going to help people in my state.

00:20:02.000 Here's Louisiana Governor John Bel Edwards.

00:20:04.000 The $2 trillion package that Congress passed, that the President signed into law, we know is going to help with hospitals with unreimbursed expenses, the expansion of telehealth.

00:20:13.000 We know that families are going to benefit, small businesses, employees.

00:20:16.000 Is it enough?

00:20:17.000 Nutrition for our schools and our food banks.

00:20:19.000 Well, you know, it's a very generous package.

00:20:22.000 It's the largest one in the history of our country.

00:20:24.000 Right, but is it enough for you?

00:20:25.000 There's about $1.8 billion.

00:20:29.000 There's $1.8 billion for the state that's going to help, and so there's going to be additional legislation coming forward, I believe, as well.

00:20:37.000 But we know that this is a good start, and I appreciate everything that they have done in Congress in order to help us.

00:20:45.000 By the way, listen to the questions there, right?

00:20:47.000 I mean, it's so, it's, I'm sorry, it's terrible.

00:20:49.000 I mean, the members of the media who are spending all of their time just asking people, is it enough?

00:20:54.000 Is it enough?

00:20:55.000 I mean, they're looking for bad news at this point.

00:20:58.000 How about this?

00:20:59.000 How about when a democratic governor of a state says that the feds are doing their best in providing help, you say, oh, that's good news.

00:21:06.000 Instead of, is it enough?

00:21:08.000 What more can you get out of them?

00:21:09.000 Like, I don't think those kinds of questions would be forthcoming if this were a Republican governor during Hurricane Sandy talking about how Barack Obama had provided all the support necessary.

00:21:17.000 In fact, I know that that wouldn't have happened because it didn't happen in 2012 when Hurricane Sandy happened and Chris Christie was hugging Barack Obama on the tarmac and the media were treating Barack Obama as the savior of the East Coast during Hurricane Sandy.

00:21:28.000 for doing, like, basically what the federal government should just do as a baseline in the middle of a national disaster, right?

00:21:35.000 And the media has been treating it like this the whole time, right?

00:21:36.000 CBS's Margaret Brennan, she had Steve Mnuchin on, the Treasury Secretary, and he was saying, like, we're providing stimulus, we're doing our best here.

00:21:43.000 Margaret Brennan was the same person who was questioning Governor Bell Edwards there, if you didn't hear her.

00:21:48.000 And Margaret Brennan, she's saying to Mnuchin, you don't know all these jobs are going to come back.

00:21:51.000 You don't know.

00:21:52.000 Of course he doesn't know all the jobs are going to come back.

00:21:53.000 Nobody knows all the jobs are going to come back.

00:21:55.000 This is the greatest shutdown in the history of the world economy.

00:21:58.000 Without a doubt.

00:21:59.000 Without a doubt.

00:22:00.000 I mean, we have literally forcibly shut every business in the United States, effectively.

00:22:04.000 And Margaret Brennan's like, you don't know all the jobs. 0.86

00:22:06.000 No bleep, she doesn't know all the jobs are going to come back.

00:22:08.000 Nobody knows all the jobs are going to come back.

00:22:10.000 That's one of the hard parts about dealing with, you know, an unprecedented global pandemic, Margaret.

00:22:14.000 Here she is on CBS.

00:22:16.000 Do you need to level with the American people here and tell them you simply don't know that all these jobs are going to come back?

00:22:23.000 This program is going to be enormously successful in stabilizing the U.S.

00:22:28.000 economy while hardworking Americans who lost their jobs or aren't able to work because of the medical situation, that they get help.

00:22:36.000 So this money is going to go into the economy very quickly.

00:22:40.000 It is going to help American workers very, very quickly.

00:22:44.000 And I don't know how long it's going to take to kill this virus.

00:22:47.000 I do know we will kill this virus.

00:22:49.000 And when we do, I have great confidence that the U.S.

00:22:52.000 economy will become roaring back.

00:22:55.000 Okay, but it's the questions that are like, everyone knows this.

00:22:58.000 Does everyone ever actually think that the jobs are magically coming back after the greatest shutdown in the history of the world?

00:23:03.000 Literally?

00:23:03.000 I mean, Jay Inslee from Washington, who hates Trump, right?

00:23:06.000 Hates Trump.

00:23:07.000 And Trump is no fan of Jay Inslee.

00:23:09.000 Now, we're getting help from the national stockpile.

00:23:17.000 We have got thousands and tens of thousands of masks and gloves, and we really appreciate from the federal stockpile.

00:23:24.000 We're having soldiers.

00:23:25.000 The 627th from Colorado arrived yesterday to build a hospital for us in Century Link Field.

00:23:32.000 So there's some good things happening from the federal government, and we have a lot of gratitude for everybody involved in that.

00:23:38.000 So again, while the media are out there suggesting the Trump administration is doing a horrible job, most of the governors who are speaking up about this, including Andrew Cuomo, by the way, are saying the feds are giving us what they can.

00:23:48.000 You know, maybe they started late, but everybody screwed this thing up.

00:23:50.000 And that's going to be one of the themes we're going to talk about in a second here, is it is very easy to see the bias of the media.

00:23:56.000 Some good journalists like Jake Tapper has been extremely critical of Trump, but you'll see he actually went after Bill de Blasio yesterday.

00:24:02.000 Some in the media Are spending their time pretending that the federal government led by Trump was uniquely wrong on this coronavirus thing?

00:24:08.000 Let's be real about this.

00:24:09.000 Everyone was wrong about this coronavirus thing up until about three weeks ago.

00:24:13.000 Up until it became obvious that this was going to become a serious issue in the United States, people across the aisle were not taking this seriously enough.

00:24:21.000 And the media are now doing this revisionist history where it was only one side of the aisle because Trump is the man in power.

00:24:26.000 It was only one side of the aisle that was not taking this seriously enough, and that just is not true.

00:24:30.000 It just isn't true.

00:24:31.000 We'll get to more of this in just one second.

00:24:34.000 First, let's talk about the reality, which is that, again, you are staying home a lot right now, and there's never been a better time to avoid the post office.

00:24:41.000 Whether you like the post office or not, schlepping boxes to a place where you have to stand in line with other human beings who are also schlepping boxes That does not seem like a great idea at the moment.

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00:24:54.000 I mean, there's no personal contact.

00:24:55.000 For all of our sakes, we need to avoid crowds any way we can.

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00:26:09.000 Okay, so, in other pieces of good news, a field hospital is being set up in New York City right now.

00:26:15.000 Dozens of people working in a drizzle to erect the facility for an expected influx of COVID-19 patients at the epicenter of this coronavirus pandemic were working throughout the day yesterday.

00:26:24.000 This is according to Yahoo News and Agence France-Presse, the AFP.

00:26:27.000 Samaritan's Purse, a U.S.-based global relief agency, is setting up the hospital on the park's East Meadow lawn.

00:26:32.000 Workers in face masks are unloading a white tarp and other equipment on the grass.

00:26:34.000 They've already set up the Javits Center as well, so we are quickly ramping up capacity in New York City, which is deeply important.

00:26:40.000 A piece of actual good news is that in Washington state, Which entered into the social distancing measures and the stay-at-home measures early, they have seen a drop-off in the number of new cases.

00:26:51.000 According to the New York Times, the Seattle area, home of the first known coronavirus case in the United States and the place where the virus claimed 37 of its first 50 victims, that old age home. 1.00

00:27:00.000 is now seeing evidence that strict containment strategies imposed in the earliest days of the outbreak are beginning to pay off at least for the moment.

00:27:06.000 Deaths are not rising as fast as they are in other states.

00:27:09.000 Dramatic declines in street traffic show people are staying home.

00:27:11.000 Hospitals have not been overwhelmed.

00:27:13.000 Preliminary statistical models provided to public officials in Washington state suggest the spread of the virus has slowed in Seattle in recent days.

00:27:19.000 While each infected person was spreading the virus to an average of 2.7 other people earlier in March, that number has dropped.

00:27:25.000 One projection suggests that in the Seattle area, it's now down to 1.4, which is more in line with the seasonal flu.

00:27:30.000 The researchers preparing the latest projections, led by the Institute for Disease Modeling, which is a private research group in Bellevue, have been watching a variety of data points since the onset of the outbreak.

00:27:39.000 They include tens of thousands of coronavirus test results, deaths, mobility information including traffic patterns, and movements of Facebook users to estimate the rate at which coronavirus patients are spreading the disease.

00:27:48.000 The progress is precarious, but The findings offer a measure of hope that the emergency measures disrupting life will, in fact, bend the curve.

00:27:54.000 Now, with all of that said, stay home. 1.00

00:27:58.000 Don't be stupid. 0.99

00:28:00.000 It is one thing to be out in some rural areas of the United States where there's not a ton of evidence that coronavirus exists, and treating every area of the United States as though it is equivalent would be foolish. 1.00

00:28:08.000 Seattle, New York, LA, these are not the same as podunk Iowa.

00:28:13.000 Although, major cities in Iowa are getting hit, by the way.

00:28:15.000 I mean, there have been Thousands of cases across the Midwest in the United States that have already been diagnosed, but if you are attending megachurches in Louisiana, Ohio, Florida, do not do this.

00:28:26.000 Do not do this.

00:28:27.000 Okay?

00:28:28.000 And I speak as a member of the Orthodox Jewish community, where they have been canceling all of the minyanim, right?

00:28:34.000 Which are the biblically mandated, biblically mandated events where you are supposed to, where you're supposed to pray with 10 other men.

00:28:42.000 Those have been cancelled all over the place.

00:28:43.000 One of the reasons they've been cancelled is because we have seen widespread of cases from synagogues, from orthodox synagogues where people continue to go despite the recommendations not to go, from weddings where people were not supposed to go but they were showing up anyway for the weddings.

00:28:59.000 I personally know of several cases in my community alone of people who have come down with coronavirus because they went to weddings not in this city.

00:29:08.000 They went to a wedding in a different city, and they ended up coming down with coronavirus.

00:29:10.000 Apparently, somebody there had it.

00:29:12.000 A lot of people ended up getting it because weddings happen to be a place where it's pretty easy to pass.

00:29:15.000 Lots of dancing, lots of sweating, lots of celebrating and drinking and eating and all of that.

00:29:20.000 Right now is not the time to be attending the megachurch. 1.00

00:29:24.000 And anybody who sort of buys into the prosperity gospel motion that you can avoid coronavirus by going to church or going to synagogue or going to mosque, do not be a stupid. 1.00

00:29:36.000 Do not be an idiot. 1.00

00:29:37.000 That doesn't mean that Bill de Blasio isn't an idiot. 1.00

00:29:39.000 Bill de Blasio, the mayor of New York yesterday, he threatened permanent synagogue closings if synagogues refused to abide by the mandate. 0.99

00:29:45.000 Synagogues should certainly abide by the mandate, obviously. 1.00

00:29:49.000 I'm right here telling people, don't go to synagogue. 1.00

00:29:52.000 I'm not the only one, by the way.

00:29:54.000 What we call in the Orthodox community, Gedolah Hador, meaning the people who are like the biggest rabbis in the Jewish community.

00:29:59.000 They've been telling people to stay home because we have seen a fairly large outbreak, particularly in places like Crown Heights and Queens and some of these other areas that are heavily Jewish. 1.00

00:30:10.000 In any case, Bill de Blasio, though, because he's an idiot, he goes too far. 0.99

00:30:12.000 He says, OK, well, I want you to stay home or I'm going to shut down your synagogues permanently. 1.00

00:30:16.000 You don't have the power to do that, Bill de Blasio.

00:30:18.000 That's unconstitutional.

00:30:20.000 But with that said, take it with a grain of salt.

00:30:22.000 Folks, do not go out and congregate right now.

00:30:24.000 Now is not the time.

00:30:26.000 Even if you believe that this thing is overblown, by the way, even if you believe that in the end we're going to look back and say we went wild on this thing, you need to give the program a chance to work.

00:30:35.000 Even if you think that the Tylenol wasn't necessary, you should take the Tylenol right now just in case it is.

00:30:40.000 I mean, let's make the Pascals wager here, guys.

00:30:43.000 And even if you're a skeptic, we're already in the midst of this thing.

00:30:45.000 Give it a chance to work.

00:30:46.000 Here's Bill de Blasio yesterday going too far.

00:30:49.000 Yeah, I don't know how you can close the building permanently.

00:30:52.000 going on, they will go to the officials of that congregation.

00:30:58.000 They'll inform them they need to stop the services and disperse.

00:31:01.000 If that does not happen, they will take additional action up to the point of fines and potentially closing the building permanently.

00:31:11.000 I don't know how you can close the building permanently.

00:31:14.000 Again, that would be unconstitutional.

00:31:16.000 But it would be a foolish move right now to violate the orders that are in place, the You want to get out of this thing fast?

00:31:23.000 Seriously?

00:31:24.000 Let's let the measures work.

00:31:25.000 That's the basic theme here.

00:31:28.000 We'll get to what comes next and what those measures should look like and how we get out of this thing in just one second.

00:31:33.000 But first, let's talk about the fact that it's difficult to predict life.

00:31:38.000 It really is.

00:31:39.000 There are many things in life where you think, how did I get it so wrong?

00:31:41.000 Like, for example, that time I joined a law firm.

00:31:43.000 That was not great.

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00:32:39.000 We're gonna get to a couple of pieces of practical advice for you in the midst of all this.

00:32:43.000 There are a couple of pieces of advice on how you should deal with packages that are coming to your house, maybe why we should start wearing masks, what the end of this looks like, how China is still lying.

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00:34:10.000 Okay, so let's talk about something real practical for a second.

00:34:20.000 I sent this to my parents, so I figured that it might be useful for you as well.

00:34:24.000 There are a lot of people right now who are taking takeout meals, people who are taking packages from Amazon, and you read all these articles about how long these viruses can live on surfaces and it freaks you out.

00:34:36.000 There's a good article by Joseph Allen, Assistant Professor of Exposure and Assessment Science and Director of the Healthy Buildings Program at Harvard, and he talks about exactly how you should handle packages, and I feel like this is some practical advice that everybody should know.

00:34:48.000 He says, a recent study in the New England Journal of Medicine is making people think twice about how they might be exposed to COVID-19 if they open a box delivered by UPS, touch packages at the grocery store, or accept food delivery.

00:34:58.000 He says the risk is low.

00:34:59.000 He says disease transmission from inanimate surfaces is real, so he's not minimizing that.

00:35:03.000 In the New England Journal of Medicine study, there's a finding that grabs headlines that says the coronavirus can be detectable up to four hours on copper, 24 hours on cardboard, two to three days on plastic, and stainless steel.

00:35:13.000 But that's detectable, not that you're going to get coronavirus from the actual touching of the package.

00:35:19.000 The virus, says this professor, can be detected on some surfaces for up to a day.

00:35:22.000 The reality is that the levels do drop off quickly.

00:35:25.000 For example, the article shows the virus's half-life on stainless steel and plastic is 5.6 hours, 6.8 hours, respectively.

00:35:31.000 Half-life is how long it takes for the viral load to decrease by half and then by half and then by half and then by half.

00:35:35.000 So he says, let's examine the full causal chain that would have to exist for you to get sick from a contaminated Amazon package at your door or a gallon of milk from the grocery store.

00:35:42.000 In the case of the Amazon package, the driver would have to be infected and still working despite limited symptoms.

00:35:47.000 Let's say they wiped their nose, didn't wash their hands, and then transferred some of the virus to your package.

00:35:50.000 Even then, there's lag time from when they transferred the virus until you packed up your package at the door.

00:35:55.000 The virus degrades that whole time.

00:35:56.000 In the worst case scenario, a visibly sick driver picks up your package from the truck, walks to your front door, sneezes into their hands, or directly on the package immediately before they hand it to you.

00:36:04.000 Even in that highly unlikely scenario, you can break the causal chain.

00:36:09.000 So what you should do, presumably, is to cut the chain.

00:36:11.000 You can leave the cardboard package at your door for a few hours, or you can bring it inside and leave it right inside your door and then wash your hands again.

00:36:17.000 If you're still concerned there was any virus on the package, you could wipe down the exterior with a disinfectant, or open it outdoors and put the package in the recycling can and then wash your hands.

00:36:25.000 That's what I've been doing.

00:36:27.000 I personally receive all the packages at my house.

00:36:28.000 When they come, I immediately slap on a pair of surgical gloves, I rip open the package, I throw it in the garbage, I walk inside, I throw out the surgical gloves, and I wash my hands.

00:36:37.000 And that's, I think, the paranoid way to do this.

00:36:39.000 And paranoia at this point is not the worst thing in the world.

00:36:43.000 Shop when you need to.

00:36:44.000 Keeping six feet from other customers, says this professor.

00:36:47.000 Load items into your cart or basket, keep your hands away from your face while you shop, wash them as soon as you are home, put away your groceries, and then wash your hands again.

00:36:54.000 If you wait even a few hours before you use anything, most of the virus will be significantly reduced.

00:36:58.000 If you need to use something immediately, wipe the package down and wipe off all your fruits and vegetables just the way that you normally would, wash them off in the sink.

00:37:04.000 So, just feel like that's good information that everybody should have because people are so paranoid.

00:37:08.000 You think that you touch anything, the floor is lava, you're gonna die.

00:37:12.000 And that is not the case.

00:37:13.000 Meanwhile, I do have to point out the trend that has been happening here, which is that the media have been suggesting that the Trump administration uniquely got things wrong.

00:37:21.000 Now, let me be clear.

00:37:22.000 The Trump administration blew it in February.

00:37:24.000 They did.

00:37:25.000 They blew it in February.

00:37:26.000 Okay, in January, Trump was exactly right to shut down travel from China.

00:37:29.000 And he's also correct that the media were telling people Not to shut down travel from China.

00:37:34.000 This is all xenophobia and racism and all that.

00:37:36.000 Trump can be right about that.

00:37:37.000 Also, we then spent a month doing nothing.

00:37:39.000 We spent a month not developing the test.

00:37:41.000 And this is of deep concern and deeply upsetting because we don't know right now what the death rates are of this virus.

00:37:46.000 We don't even know the transmissibility rates.

00:37:47.000 We're sort of assuming.

00:37:49.000 And we don't know anything in part because China is lying to us.

00:37:52.000 There's some fairly good evidence That China has been lying dramatically, considering that, I mean, there's seriously an article from Radio Free Asia suggesting that there may be 40,000 dead people in Wuhan province, right?

00:38:08.000 They've said there's like 3,000 or 2,500.

00:38:11.000 But that's pretty obviously inaccurate.

00:38:13.000 According to Radio Free Asia, as authorities lifted a two-month coronavirus lockdown in the central Chinese city of Wuhan, residents said they were growing increasingly skeptical that the figure of some 2,500 deaths in the city to date was accurate.

00:38:24.000 Since the start of the week, seven large funeral homes in Wuhan have been handing out the cremated remains of about 500 people to their families every single day, suggesting that far more people died than ever made the official statistics.

00:38:35.000 A Wuhan resident said, it can't be right.

00:38:37.000 The incinerators have been working around the clock.

00:38:39.000 How can so few people have died?

00:38:40.000 Seven funeral homes currently serve Wuhan, Hankou, Wuchang, and Hanyang.

00:38:48.000 Social media users have been doing some basic math to figure out their daily capacity.

00:38:52.000 The news website Kexin reported that Orcasian, don't know how to pronounce it, reported that 5,000 urns had been delivered by a supplier to Hankow Funeral Home in one day alone, which is double the official number of deaths total.

00:39:04.000 Some social media posts have estimated all seven funeral homes in Wuhan are handing out 3,500 urns every single day.

00:39:10.000 Funeral homes have informed families they'll try to complete cremations before the traditional grave-tending festival of King Ming on April 5th.

00:39:16.000 That would indicate a 12-day process beginning March 23rd.

00:39:19.000 Such an estimate would mean 42,000 urns would be given out during that time.

00:39:25.000 Another popular estimate is based on cremation capacity of the funeral homes, which run a total of 84 furnaces with a capacity over 24 hours of 1,560 urns citywide, assuming one cremation per hour.

00:39:35.000 That calculation results in nearly 47,000 deaths.

00:39:38.000 So China has been lying about this all along.

00:39:40.000 That's why when you see the media accepting Chinese statistics, They're doing the work of a Chinese autocracy that lied about this thing and then released it on the world. 0.95

00:39:48.000 I mean, China's gonna have to pay for this in some way. 0.97

00:39:50.000 It's just horrific.

00:39:51.000 It's just absolutely horrific.

00:39:53.000 By the way, the head of emergency at Wuhan tried to go public with this stuff months ago and then magically was disappeared by the Chinese government.

00:40:01.000 It truly is, it's truly incredible.

00:40:05.000 Also, the WHO, right, which is supposed to be the trusted source in all of this, the WHO, the World Health Organization, that originally bought China's lie, there was no human-to-human transmission, and they bought it for like a month.

00:40:15.000 The WHO was asked over the weekend about whether, by someone in Chinese media, I believe this is in Hong Kong, which means that it's run by China at this point, because Hong Kong is a democracy in name only.

00:40:27.000 That's why they had the giant protest all of last year.

00:40:30.000 One of the heads of the WHO was asked whether they would reconsider Taiwan's independent membership.

00:40:35.000 And the WHO refused to say because they are in hock to the Chinese.

00:40:38.000 The WHO is basically, they're making it obvious every day they are a corrupt organization that is willing to accept bad information from the Chinese government.

00:40:45.000 It's really, it's horrific.

00:40:47.000 Here's some of this interview.

00:40:48.000 This woman asks, Will the WHO reconsider Taiwan's membership?

00:40:52.000 Because China, of course, considers Taiwan to be a part of China, which is ridiculous.

00:40:56.000 It is not.

00:40:56.000 It's an independent nation, and the West certainly has a priority in protecting Taiwan from Chinese predations.

00:41:01.000 One of the great tragedies in human history is that Chiang Kai-shek's armies were defeated by Mao Tse-tung, and he was driven off the continent into Taiwan.

00:41:07.000 In any case, the WHO refuses to say whether they would reconsider Taiwan's membership.

00:41:13.000 It's amazing.

00:41:15.000 WHO considered Taiwan's membership.

00:41:19.000 It's official from WHO.

00:41:27.000 He simply pretends he doesn't hear the question.

00:41:29.000 I couldn't hear your question.

00:41:32.000 Okay, let me repeat the question.

00:41:34.000 Okay, let's move to another one then.

00:41:37.000 Right, because I'm actually curious on talking about Taiwan as well, on Taiwan's case.

00:41:44.000 And then he just pretends he doesn't hear the question and then he cuts off.

00:41:49.000 And then he cuts off the stream.

00:41:50.000 That is one of the heads of the WHO.

00:41:52.000 Okay, so when everybody talks about how the Trump administration screwed this up, okay, there's duplicity and then there's just screwing up.

00:41:57.000 Okay, the duplicity comes from the Chinese government.

00:42:00.000 And honest to God, they've killed tens of thousands of people with this thing. 0.96

00:42:03.000 Hundreds of thousands of people will likely die because the Chinese government is an evil autocracy. 1.00

00:42:07.000 We should never forget that.

00:42:08.000 When it comes to what happened in the United States, what we should never forget is that the same government that we trust to fix all of our problems blew this one on every possible level and has been blowing it for years.

00:42:18.000 And that holds between administrations.

00:42:19.000 Okay, this is not a partisan thing.

00:42:21.000 On the one hand, there are people who are suggesting it was just Trump.

00:42:23.000 And they're citing the fact that the United States did not ramp up their testing capacity in February and that they missed the boat, which is true.

00:42:31.000 The CDC totally blew it.

00:42:33.000 The FDA totally blew it.

00:42:34.000 And heads should roll over there.

00:42:35.000 There's an entire article in the New York Times talking about the failures of the federal government during February.

00:42:41.000 They say, early on, the dozen federal officials charged with defending America against coronavirus gathered day after day in the White House Situation Room, consumed by crises.

00:42:48.000 They grappled with how to evacuate the U.S.

00:42:50.000 consulate in Wuhan, China, ban Chinese travelers, extract Americans from the Diamond Princess and other cruise ships, The members of the Coronavirus Task Force typically devoted only 5 or 10 minutes, often at the end of contentious meetings, to talk about testing.

00:43:01.000 The CDC, its leaders assured the others, had developed a diagnostic model that would be rolled out quickly as a first step.

00:43:06.000 But large-scale testing of people who might have been infected did not happen because of technical flaws, regulatory hurdles, business-as-usual bureaucracies, lack of leadership at multiple levels, according to interviews with more than 50 current and former public health officials, administration officials, senior scientists, and company executives.

00:43:21.000 The result was a lost month when the world's richest country, armed with some of the most highly trained scientists and infectious disease specialists, squandered its best chance of containing the virus's spread.

00:43:31.000 Instead, Americans were left largely blind to the scale of a looming public health catastrophe.

00:43:35.000 Okay, this is 100% true.

00:43:37.000 Okay, the fact is that people at the CDC should be fired over this thing.

00:43:43.000 The fact that there are people who are at the FDA who should be fired at this thing.

00:43:50.000 People can blame this on President Trump all they want.

00:43:52.000 The reality is that it is the job of people inside the federal government to help convince the president to take this thing seriously.

00:43:58.000 So people should be fired over this.

00:44:00.000 This is a failure of the Trump administration.

00:44:02.000 But it is also true that there were failures in prior administrations about the ventilator supply.

00:44:08.000 For example, CNN reported over the weekend in at least 10 government reports from 2003 to 2015.

00:44:12.000 That spans the Bush administration and the Obama administration.

00:44:16.000 Federal officials predicted the U.S.

00:44:18.000 would experience a critical lack of ventilators and other life-saving medical supplies if it faced a viral outbreak like the one currently sweeping the country.

00:44:24.000 The drumbeat of warnings undermines President Trump's claim last week nobody in their wildest dream could have imagined the demand for ventilators that now exists.

00:44:31.000 Okay, well that's true, but why weren't the ventilators there from the Obama administration then?

00:44:36.000 So in other words, everybody missed it.

00:44:37.000 And this is one of the things that drives me nuts is the rush to the partisan politics of pandemics when everybody blew it.

00:44:44.000 See, I've said before that government is more veep than it is house of cards.

00:44:47.000 In other words, it is not a bunch of clever people around a table making calculated decisions about how to advance their interests. 1.00

00:44:53.000 It's a bunch of morons. 1.00

00:44:54.000 It's all the people you work with except with actual power. 1.00

00:44:57.000 And when they blow it, they blow it big time.

00:44:59.000 And so it turns very quickly from comedy to tragedy because them blowing it every day doesn't have tremendous ramifications for you until it absolutely does.

00:45:06.000 Because there's only one thing.

00:45:07.000 Government has one job.

00:45:08.000 So here's the thing.

00:45:09.000 If you think government is good for everything, then you think government is good for this too.

00:45:13.000 But if you think government has one job and they blow the one job, it should undermine your trust in government that the government blows it this way every single time there's a major crisis.

00:45:20.000 When's the last time there was a major crisis the government didn't blow it?

00:45:23.000 Now, we mobilize quickly, we respond quickly, but the government always blows it because the government is staffed by human beings.

00:45:29.000 And if you're going to tell me that the United States has handled this worse than any other country, there's literally like two countries that handled it decently.

00:45:35.000 South Korea is one, and that's because they actually prepped in the aftermath of a pandemic that nailed them with SARS. 0.91

00:45:40.000 Okay, but Italy is getting hit way harder than we are.

00:45:42.000 Spain is getting hit way harder.

00:45:43.000 Both of those have nationalized healthcare systems, enormous governments, giant bureaucracies, extraordinary tax rates.

00:45:49.000 So, bottom line is this. 0.78

00:45:51.000 Government sucks at things. 0.99

00:45:52.000 It doesn't stop sucking just because this is a thing that's very important for it to do. 1.00

00:45:56.000 And it's a bipartisan suckage. 0.98

00:45:58.000 Okay, the suckage is not unique to one side. 0.69

00:46:00.000 It's not like Trump handled this way better than Obama would have, or Obama would have handled this so much better than Trump did.

00:46:05.000 I have no evidence of that whatsoever.

00:46:07.000 Again, this report from the New York Times, from CNN, suggests that there was a May 2003 GAO report saying that there needs to be more medical equipment.

00:46:16.000 A 2005 Congressional Research Service report An HHS report that same month in November 2005.

00:46:21.000 A July 2006 report from the CBO.

00:46:23.000 A Defense Department report from August 2006.

00:46:25.000 A November 2007 Interior Department Pandemic Influenza Plan.

00:46:29.000 A 2009 OSHA publication.

00:46:32.000 A 2009 report by the Executive Office to the President that said that they might need mechanical ventilation that could reach 10 to 25 per 100,000 population.

00:46:40.000 Which, if you multiply that out, that would be 30,000 to 60,000 ventilators, which is exactly what we're talking about right now.

00:46:50.000 A 2015 study from the DHHS and the Center for Disease Control suggesting that we might need an additional 7,000 to 11,000 ventilators.

00:46:59.000 And in a high severity scenario, at least 60,000 additional ventilators.

00:47:03.000 So everyone blew it.

00:47:04.000 Every single person blew it.

00:47:05.000 And you can see how the partisanship falls apart when we just accept this simple truth.

00:47:09.000 Bill de Blasio was asked by Jake Tapper, who again, Jake will actually ask tough questions of Democrats on occasion.

00:47:14.000 De Blasio was asked yesterday about, you know, like a month ago you were downplaying the whole virus, like for a while.

00:47:20.000 We talked about the timeline on Friday.

00:47:22.000 And De Blasio's like, we shouldn't look backward, we shouldn't look backwards.

00:47:25.000 Weird, because five seconds ago you were saying we should look backwards at what the Trump administration blew.

00:47:28.000 How about this?

00:47:29.000 How about there's plenty of time to look backward and cast blame at everybody?

00:47:32.000 Now let's try and get this crisis solved and let's accept government sucks at things, okay?

00:47:36.000 So the case that I've been hearing from folks on the left is not everyone's a socialist in a pandemic.

00:47:41.000 Yeah, when it's an emergency situation and there's literally no other option, then you have to rely on the government.

00:47:46.000 But this is exactly why you should not rely on the government when there is any other option.

00:47:49.000 Here's Bill de Blasio explaining, I don't want to look backward anymore.

00:47:52.000 Weird, because five seconds ago you were totally into looking backward, Bill de Blasio.

00:47:55.000 In retrospect, is that message, at least in part, to blame for how rapidly the virus has spread across the city?

00:48:02.000 You know, Jake, we should not be focusing, in my view, on anything looking back on any level of government right now.

00:48:10.000 This is just about how we save lives going forward.

00:48:13.000 We all were working.

00:48:14.000 Everybody was working with the information we had and trying, of course, to avoid panic.

00:48:20.000 And at that point, for all of us, trying to keep, not only protect lives, but keep the economy and the livelihoods together.

00:48:28.000 Okay, so weird how he shifted his tune.

00:48:30.000 By the way, speaking of people who have shifted their tunes, so Nancy Pelosi yesterday, she did a press conference and she said, as the president fiddles, people are dying, right?

00:48:38.000 The president is just messing around while people are dying.

00:48:40.000 Well, here she was with Jake Tapper being asked about it.

00:48:43.000 His denial at the beginning was deadly.

00:48:47.000 His delaying of getting equipment to where It continues.

00:48:53.000 His delay in getting equipment to where it's needed is deadly.

00:48:56.000 What did he know and when did he know it?

00:48:58.000 That's for an after-action review.

00:49:01.000 But as the president fiddles, people are dying.

00:49:05.000 And we just have to take every precaution.

00:49:08.000 But are you saying that his downplaying ultimately cost American lives?

00:49:13.000 Yes, I am.

00:49:15.000 Okay, let me go back to Nancy Pelosi.

00:49:17.000 February 24th, in San Francisco, in Chinatown.

00:49:20.000 Okay, this is weeks after the virus' outbreak.

00:49:23.000 Everyone knew at this point that things were getting serious in Italy.

00:49:26.000 But this is weeks after the outbreak.

00:49:27.000 Again, everyone failed.

00:49:28.000 Everyone failed here.

00:49:29.000 Here's Nancy Pelosi failing.

00:49:30.000 And now, of course, it's President Trump downplayed it.

00:49:32.000 What would you call it if you went to Chinatown, where presumably there are lots of travelers from China, in Chinatown, in the middle of a pandemic, and you suggested everybody should come out and join you, Nancy Pelosi?

00:49:41.000 What would you say to that?

00:49:44.000 It's exciting to be here, especially at this time, to be able to be unified with our community.

00:49:51.000 We want to be vigilant about what is out there in other places.

00:49:57.000 We want to be careful about how we deal with it.

00:49:59.000 But we do want to say to people, come to Chinatown. 0.94

00:50:03.000 Here we are.

00:50:04.000 We're, again, careful, safe, and come join us.

00:50:10.000 Okay, literally acknowledging there's a problem in China.

00:50:13.000 At the same time, she is suggesting that everybody should come out to Chinatown and join them.

00:50:16.000 For measures of cultural diversity, presumably.

00:50:19.000 Okay, this is a bipartisan failure.

00:50:20.000 Everyone failed. 1.00

00:50:21.000 Your government sucks. 1.00

00:50:23.000 And it's not just our government. 0.99

00:50:24.000 Our government is just as good as any other government. 0.99

00:50:25.000 It's just all governments suck. 0.94

00:50:27.000 The difference between an authoritarian government and the U.S. 0.99

00:50:28.000 government, by the way, is that an authoritarian government lies to you.

00:50:31.000 The American government doesn't lie to you.

00:50:33.000 They're just not good at things because the government is not good at things.

00:50:35.000 I'd rather have a government that's not good at things than a government that lies to me.

00:50:38.000 Also, I'd like the capacity to Get out of government's clutches whenever possible.

00:50:42.000 So two things can be true at once, as always.

00:50:44.000 In a panic, right?

00:50:45.000 Not in a panic, but also in a pandemic, obviously, you may have the only option maybe to rely on government.

00:50:51.000 But this just suggests why we should not be relying on government in nearly any other circumstance, like at all, ever. 0.87

00:50:56.000 Because they suck at things, and then they blame each other for sucking at things. 0.99

00:51:01.000 Honest to God, they all suck at everything. 0.97

00:51:03.000 This has not shaken my fundamental faith in the basic principle, which is that your government is brutally incompetent, that it can mobilize eventually to do some of the right things, but if you ever have the option of not relying on the government, you should absolutely take it. 0.96

00:51:17.000 Okay, time for some things I like and then a thing that I hate.

00:51:21.000 So, speaking of governments that are brutal and authoritarian, Henry Hazlitt, who wrote one of my favorite books, Economics in One Lesson.

00:51:27.000 I've recommended that book many, many times to people.

00:51:30.000 If people say, I only have time to read one book, what should it be?

00:51:32.000 I usually recommend Henry Hazlitt's Economics in One Lesson.

00:51:35.000 It's a great take on libertarian economics and how the economy ought to work and why government regulations stifle the economy.

00:51:41.000 He actually wrote a novel that very few people have read called Time Will Run Back.

00:51:45.000 And the basic premise is that there is a son of a dictator who's obviously Stalin slash Lenin.

00:51:50.000 And the son is put in charge of the Soviet Union.

00:51:54.000 This is written in like the late 40s and about the same time as 1984.

00:51:59.000 And that he realizes that why communism is a failure and he starts to gradually liberalize the economy of the Soviet Union.

00:52:06.000 But this is like taking place 200 years in the future when the Soviet Union now dominates the entire earth. 0.93

00:52:11.000 It's a really kind of great...

00:52:12.000 Basic take on what Marxism is and the effects of Marxism, why Marxist philosophy is wrong on both a moral and economic level.

00:52:19.000 One of the points that Hazlitt makes in the book, and again, it's didactic.

00:52:22.000 It's not the world's greatest novel, but it is a great teaching tool.

00:52:25.000 One of the points that Hazlitt makes in the book is that truth just is of different value in authoritarian states.

00:52:29.000 Truth is of practical value, meaning that whatever forwards the regime becomes true in an authoritarian state.

00:52:35.000 And that's obviously true in China.

00:52:37.000 It's why I've seen a global pandemic from what was A local problem. 1.00

00:52:41.000 People eating the damn bats in a wet market. 0.99

00:52:44.000 So it's an informative book. 0.99

00:52:48.000 It's a good book, I would say, for sort of young teenagers, like 13, 14-year-old.

00:52:51.000 Time will run back.

00:52:52.000 Henry has it.

00:52:53.000 Got some time on your hands anyway, so go pick up a copy.

00:52:55.000 And if you can't get your kids to digest economics straight, then this is a pretty good elucidation of the differences between capitalism and communism, capitalism and Marxism.

00:53:03.000 State ownership and private ownership of the means of production by Henry Hazlitt.

00:53:06.000 Time will run back by Henry Hazlitt.

00:53:08.000 Okay, time for some things that I hate.

00:53:14.000 So, as I have been saying, one of the big problems in the midst of a pandemic is because you have to rely on government in the midst of a pandemic, crises become the locus of government control.

00:53:23.000 It's something we ought to be very careful about here in the United States.

00:53:26.000 This is a crisis.

00:53:27.000 It does require government control, and that government control should be temporary.

00:53:30.000 It should not be permanent.

00:53:31.000 It's why when we were looking at the bailout plans, I was very focused on what here is temporary and what here is permanent, because Democrats would love to make all of these bailouts permanent.

00:53:39.000 They'd love to have permanent UBI, universal basic income.

00:53:42.000 They would love to have huge swaths of American industry owned directly by the government.

00:53:46.000 It would be ruinous.

00:53:47.000 Democrats want to make emergency situations permanent, specifically so that governments can maximize its power.

00:53:53.000 That is one of the One of the times that I've been proudest of President Trump was he was asked about why he had not authorized the Defense Production Act more robustly.

00:54:01.000 And he said, because nationalization is generally a bad thing.

00:54:04.000 Look at Venezuela.

00:54:06.000 That is correct.

00:54:07.000 And you're starting to see around the world, authoritarians taking the reins of power and then maximizing that power in order to deal with the pandemic and probably having very few plans to give it up.

00:54:16.000 So you've already seen it in Russia, right?

00:54:17.000 There are no stats out of Russia on how many deaths they've had on COVID, but they're apparently locking everybody down.

00:54:22.000 And in the midst of all of this, Vladimir Putin has been consolidating his political control.

00:54:26.000 He started it before COVID and now he's maximizing that.

00:54:29.000 Meanwhile, the Hungarian parliament just passed a bill That gives Prime Minister Viktor Orban unlimited power and proclaims a state of emergency with no time limit, rule by decree, a suspension of parliament, no elections.

00:54:41.000 If you spread fake news or rumors, you can get up to five years in prison, supposedly.

00:54:45.000 And if you leave quarantine, you can get up to eight years in prison.

00:54:49.000 Which sounds very much like a dictatorship if there is no time limit to that decree.

00:54:54.000 That's some scary stuff.

00:54:55.000 Meanwhile, obviously in China, they have been shunting people off to work camps, presumably, or killing them, if they talk openly about this stuff, and then lying about everything else.

00:55:04.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, With much of the world on lockdown, the coronavirus pandemic has chipped away at individual liberties everywhere.

00:55:11.000 In more places, it is being used as an excuse to weaken democratic institutions and oversight, an authoritarian slide that could endure once the current health emergency subsides.

00:55:19.000 In Russia, President Vladimir Putin this month pushed through Parliament the removal of term limits, ensuring he could remain in power for life.

00:55:24.000 In Bolivia, the interim and unelected government has cancelled presidential elections slated for May.

00:55:29.000 In Hungary, Prime Minister Orban just moved ahead with the legislation I just mentioned.

00:55:33.000 In Israel, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party used the coronavirus to prevent the opposition, which gained a majority of seats in the March 2nd elections, from taking control of parliamentary proceedings.

00:55:43.000 Well, that's not completely fair, right?

00:55:45.000 The last one on Israel is not completely... The reason I say that's not fair is because what basically happened is that Benny Gantz, who was the head of the Blue and White Party, not to get into, you know, too many details with regard to Israeli politics.

00:55:55.000 There are two major parties in Israel right now, Likud, which is led by Benjamin Netanyahu, and Benny Gantz's Blue and White Party.

00:56:02.000 The Blue and White Party is basically an anti-Netanyahu coalition.

00:56:05.000 And Benny Gantz decided, listen, we can't have another election in the midst of a pandemic.

00:56:08.000 I will take the deal that Netanyahu offers, which is a rotating prime ministership where I am foreign minister.

00:56:13.000 That retains Netanyahu as prime minister up until, I believe, September 2021.

00:56:16.000 Benny Gantz ends up as foreign minister until then.

00:56:19.000 That actually split the Blue and White Party because half of his own party walked out and said, we're not cutting any deal with Netanyahu, which basically gives Netanyahu an enormous coalition.

00:56:27.000 And there's no way he gets thrown out of office barring an actual criminal proceeding at this point.

00:56:34.000 But put Israel aside, the rest of these cases are cases where authoritarian governments are maximizing their power.

00:56:41.000 The gravity of the coronavirus pandemic, which just in two weeks has killed several thousand people in Europe and the United States, according to the Wall Street Journal, has already generated unprecedented restrictions on fundamental liberties in much of the West.

00:56:52.000 These restrictions, if they lead to postponement of elections in some countries, don't by themselves alter a nation's democratic nature.

00:56:57.000 The UK remains a democracy through World War II, despite draconian wartime legislation.

00:57:02.000 That was true in the United States as well.

00:57:04.000 But the question is going to be how long this lasts beyond.

00:57:07.000 Because obviously we've seen authoritarians rise in places ranging from the Philippines to Turkey.

00:57:13.000 How much will these measures stay in place after the emergency is over?

00:57:16.000 This is why I mentioned earlier when Bill de Blasio says that if you violate his orders regarding staying home from synagogue, he is going to shut down your building permanently.

00:57:25.000 That's where you start to run into serious constitutional concerns and concerns about basic fundamental civil liberties.

00:57:31.000 Meanwhile, China's propaganda apparatus has already launched an all-out effort at home and abroad to portray It's ability to contain the virus as a testament to the superiority of its party-state system. 0.96

00:57:42.000 And you're starting to see members of the media repeat this garbage. 0.88

00:57:44.000 Members of the media will say, look at how China locked this thing down. 0.98

00:57:47.000 Isn't it amazing how China locked this thing down?

00:57:49.000 Look how authoritarianism is so great.

00:57:51.000 I remember years ago, Thomas Friedman expressed his sort of wonderment at the Chinese one-party system in true Walter Durante fashion.

00:57:58.000 Walter Durante was the columnist for the New York Times who went over to the Soviet Union, completely ignored the fact that they were starving millions of people in Ukraine and talked about how he had seen the future and it was working. 0.59

00:58:08.000 Yeah, well, you've seen the same thing from journalists since time immemorial.

00:58:11.000 Edward Snow was a journalist, I believe, for the New York Times, who went to Mao's China and walked around with Mao and came away with the conclusion that China was a wonderful, great, authoritarian state.

00:58:23.000 Well, now you're seeing the same sort of stuff from many journalists with regard to China.

00:58:25.000 Look at a wonderful job they did locking this whole thing down.

00:58:29.000 China's lying. 0.76

00:58:29.000 China is continuing to lie. 0.76

00:58:31.000 If you buy their lies, you are forwarding their lies.

00:58:33.000 I don't know why in the world you'd want to forward the aspirations of the Chinese Communist regime, one of the worst regimes on planet Earth, if not the worst regime on planet Earth, by buying the lie that they locked this thing down with alacrity and suddenly they are some sort of altruistic nation. 0.88

00:58:46.000 I've seen so many journalists, I can't even tell you, who are repeating Chinese propaganda, and it's astonishing to me.

00:58:50.000 Astonishing.

00:58:51.000 People saying, yeah, the United States is number one in cases.

00:58:53.000 It shows how we failed.

00:58:54.000 We're the worst in the world.

00:58:55.000 Really?

00:58:56.000 Are we the worst in the world?

00:58:57.000 Did we weld people in their houses and then allow 5 million people to leave the region from a pandemic zone and move into the rest of the world? 0.99

00:59:03.000 Did we do that?

00:59:04.000 Did we lie to the WHO about human-to-human transmission?

00:59:07.000 Are we killing people who are speaking out about the pandemic in the United States?

00:59:11.000 I miss that part.

00:59:13.000 If you are doing the propaganda work of the Chinese, you're doing the work of authoritarians. 0.97

00:59:16.000 The Kremlin has joined the bandwagon.

00:59:18.000 Russian military trucks laden with surprise are parading through the streets of Italy this week in order to demonstrate that Russia is in fact handling this thing supremely well.

00:59:26.000 The initial wavering and slow decision-making that allowed the virus to spread in Europe and the U.S.

00:59:29.000 have been described with near glee on Russian TV.

00:59:31.000 Although, again, we have no information from inside the Kremlin on how this thing is going because, of course, the Kremlin is not going to release any of that information.

00:59:39.000 Moscow insists it's able to keep the infection at relatively low levels, despite reports of many hidden cases, and has not imposed a lockdown so far.

00:59:47.000 Andrei Kortunov, Director General of the Russian International Affairs Council, says as far as the Russian leadership is concerned, this crisis confirms its worldview that Western systems are inefficient, that the liberal political model simply can't cope.

00:59:58.000 Okay, alternatively, what's happening is that authoritarian states are using a crisis in order to maximize their authoritarianism.

01:00:04.000 That's what they're doing.

01:00:05.000 Okay, everybody maximizes authoritarianism during times of crisis.

01:00:08.000 Woodrow Wilson did it in the United States.

01:00:09.000 FDR did it in the United States.

01:00:11.000 The question is, do things go back to normal when the crisis ends?

01:00:14.000 And in many nations, the answer is no.

01:00:17.000 In Azerbaijan, President Ilham Aliyev last week labeled his political opposition national traitors endangering public health.

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01:00:33.000 Again, this is not a great shock.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - March 30, 2020

The Tide Rises | Ep. 982

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