The Ben Shapiro Show - The Waiting Game | Ep. 983

00:00:00.000 President Trump and governors across America urge citizens to stay in for months.

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00:00:29.000 Well, if it seems like I'm a little bit flustered this morning, this is what it's like having children in a small space during a pandemic where everybody's locked inside.

00:00:35.000 I think everybody is feeling me right now who has kids.

00:00:38.000 But even if you don't have kids, look, this is a rough time for the country.

00:00:41.000 It's a rough time for all of us.

00:00:42.000 And people making light of it like, well, you know, it's not like World War II.

00:00:46.000 That's true.

00:00:46.000 It's not like World War II.

00:00:48.000 And honestly, that is one of the difficulties is that during World War II, the threat, the external threat was pretty obvious because there were bombs falling from the sky on buildings.

00:00:57.000 And you could join the military.

00:01:00.000 You could go fight back against a material enemy.

00:01:02.000 It's, in some ways, more psychologically difficult, probably, to be stuck inside when there's so much uncertainty about, if I walk outside, am I just going to die from a thing that is in the air?

00:01:12.000 That doesn't mean that it's tougher than the sacrifices made during World War II.

00:01:15.000 Obviously, people were literally being killed on beaches in World War II.

00:01:18.000 But psychologically, for the average citizen who stayed at home during World War II, this I've talked to some old people who remember World War II.

00:01:26.000 This is really rough.

00:01:27.000 This is a rough time, and being told that we are supposed to remain in our homes and shelter in place for an indefinite period of time without even the ability to really sacrifice on behalf of the country, without the ability to take active measures on behalf of the country, is...

00:01:40.000 You know, that's a difficult thing, and I think that we're all, you know, trying to muddle our way through.

00:01:44.000 Now, thank God we have the accoutrements of modern life to make that a lot easier.

00:01:47.000 Thank God, you know, we're not in the business of rationing here in the United States.

00:01:51.000 But I think it is fair to say, it's funny, sometimes you'll hear somebody complain about a minor health problem, and somebody say, well, you know, there are people starving in Asia. 0.94

00:02:01.000 And I always thought, that's such a dumb response.

00:02:03.000 That has not actually alleviated the person suffering in the here and now. 0.96

00:02:07.000 It's just comparing it to something that's much worse.

00:02:08.000 It is true.

00:02:09.000 There are situations in human life that have been a lot worse.

00:02:11.000 It is also true. 0.80

00:02:12.000 A lot of people are suffering right now, particularly in the economic side.

00:02:15.000 A lot of people are suffering on the psychological side. 0.99

00:02:17.000 And to make light of that would be to be foolish.

00:02:19.000 And that, of course, is putting aside all of the incredible human suffering that is going on by the people in the hospitals, the medical professionals who are trying to work through this thing and now being overwhelmed in certain areas of the country, and obviously the people who are suffering. 0.55

00:02:30.000 From COVID-19.

00:02:32.000 Okay, with all of that said, you know, we're all going to try and get through this together.

00:02:36.000 We will get through this together because there will be an end date.

00:02:38.000 There will be a time when we all go back out.

00:02:40.000 It's going to take a while before we get back to life as normal.

00:02:43.000 I think, I was thinking about this last night, I think it's going to be at least a year before people are going out to mass events, before Disneyland reopens, before Theatres reopen before people start going to basketball and baseball and football games.

00:02:57.000 I would be shocked if the entirety of the NFL and NBA and MLB seasons are not cancelled from here on out, simply because in order for people to go out en masse and feel safe, there's going to have to be vaccines developed.

00:03:09.000 The soonest that would happen is probably the beginning of the next year.

00:03:12.000 So it's hard for me to believe that.

00:03:14.000 I think weddings are going to be downscaled.

00:03:16.000 I think that big events are going to be postponed.

00:03:19.000 It's going to be a rough bunch of months, even after we all start going back to work.

00:03:22.000 And by the way, when we do go back to work, I think there's going to be a lot of social distancing.

00:03:25.000 I think a lot of office space is going to go empty as people try and continue to work from home. 0.97

00:03:29.000 I think that the idiocy of the government suggesting that face masks was a bad idea.

00:03:33.000 I think that's going to go by the wayside and everybody's going to be wearing face masks for at least several months here. 0.97

00:03:38.000 Now, there are some possible alleviating factors.

00:03:40.000 Obviously, the possibility that this coronavirus flu strain gets killed off during the summer, that the heat tends to drive it down.

00:03:50.000 But in populous areas, that may not be enough.

00:03:54.000 With that said, here are your updates across the globe on the coronavirus levels, the death levels across the world.

00:04:00.000 Right now, there are 810,000 diagnosed cases.

00:04:03.000 We're up to almost 40,000 deaths globally in the United States.

00:04:06.000 We are up to 163,788 new cases as of this point.

00:04:11.000 There are almost 21,000 new cases identified yesterday.

00:04:14.000 Again, we're going to see these numbers go up until they start to go down simply because we are testing more.

00:04:18.000 And by the way, just a note to the media.

00:04:21.000 If you are going to suggest that America is number one in diagnosed cases on the basis of absolute numbers as opposed to per capita basis, then you also have to acknowledge that President Trump is right when he says we are also doing the most tests of any country.

00:04:32.000 Because he's saying that on an absolute basis, not on the basis of per capita.

00:04:35.000 So you have to pick your standard.

00:04:36.000 Either we're going to measure per capita or we're going to measure on an absolute basis.

00:04:39.000 One of the two.

00:04:40.000 We had 558 new deaths in the United States yesterday from coronavirus.

00:04:45.000 It's important to put this in perspective.

00:04:47.000 In the United States, we have approximately 1,500 to 2,000 deaths per day of heart disease and cancer.

00:04:53.000 Those are the two leading killers in the United States.

00:04:55.000 Heart disease kills about 650,000 people a year in the United States.

00:04:58.000 Cancer kills about 600,000 people a year in the United States.

00:05:03.000 So, we could see, I mean, the estimates suggest that as we peak, that on a daily level, there will be days when coronavirus kills more people than heart disease and cancer, which is You know, a hell of a number.

00:05:14.000 We only hope that those numbers only spike for a couple of days or that we never reach those numbers at all.

00:05:19.000 But 558 is a big number.

00:05:20.000 Italy, of course, had 812 deaths yesterday.

00:05:22.000 Spain is now surpassing Italy as the center of the crisis.

00:05:25.000 They had 913 deaths yesterday, even in places that have locked this down better than Italy, Spain, and probably the United States.

00:05:33.000 Germany had 104 deaths yesterday.

00:05:35.000 France had 418 deaths yesterday.

00:05:37.000 It's funny, you know, for all the people who say the U.S.

00:05:39.000 is handling this worse than any other industrialized country, I've yet to see The evidence for that.

00:05:43.000 There are countries that have handled it better than we have, no question, right?

00:05:46.000 South Korea handled it better than we did.

00:05:48.000 Perhaps the Netherlands did, but you're comparing apples and oranges in some of these cases because when I interviewed Dr. Deborah Birx over the weekend, Dr. Birx pointed out with regard to, for example, Sweden, that not a lot of people traveling from Wuhan go to Sweden in the middle of the winter where it gets dark at 2.30 in the afternoon.

00:06:06.000 So that's a very different thing from the United States, where of course you have tremendous travel, huge population, a lot of diversity.

00:06:11.000 That is going to change the math a fair bit.

00:06:13.000 So comparing apples to oranges is a bad idea.

00:06:15.000 But even Germany, which had supposedly locked this thing down, saw an increase of almost 4,500 cases yesterday and 104 deaths.

00:06:21.000 France had about 4,000 diagnosed cases and 418 deaths.

00:06:26.000 Iran is lying about their numbers.

00:06:27.000 The UK, which recently went into lockdown, they had about 2,600 new cases and 180 new deaths.

00:06:34.000 On a per capita basis, deaths per one million population, the United States is still ranking near the bottom of the rankings in terms of death per one million population.

00:06:42.000 Now, that is because we're still at the beginning of this curve.

00:06:45.000 We're not going to look like these numbers by the time this is over, because the numbers can only increase from here.

00:06:49.000 Deaths are an absolute number.

00:06:50.000 Population's an absolute number.

00:06:51.000 And so as the deaths increase, the proportion is going to increase as well.

00:06:56.000 Right now, the United States, in terms of deaths per one million population, we stand at nine.

00:07:00.000 That's as opposed to Italy.

00:07:01.000 Italy has 192 deaths from coronavirus per one million of the population.

00:07:06.000 So, like, we are an order of magnitude times two, right?

00:07:11.000 Not two orders of magnitude, but an order of magnitude, and then multiply that by two, away from Italy's standing right now.

00:07:16.000 Same sort of deal with Spain.

00:07:18.000 Germany, well, we're basically on par with Germany at this point.

00:07:20.000 Germany has about as many deaths per one million of the population as we do.

00:07:24.000 France is really way more deaths per one million of the population.

00:07:28.000 And then the UK has more deaths per million of the population.

00:07:31.000 Again, these are places with smaller populations.

00:07:34.000 The places that seem to have locked it down pretty well with small populations.

00:07:38.000 Israel has locked it down pretty well with a small population.

00:07:40.000 Canada has locked it down pretty well so far with a fairly small population.

00:07:44.000 But Sweden has more deaths per 1 million of the population than we do.

00:07:48.000 So for all the people saying the United States is doing an awful, terrible, no good, very bad job with this, there are things that we could do better.

00:07:53.000 But let's not pretend that we are up there with Italy and Spain yet because we just are not.

00:07:57.000 That is not where the facts lie.

00:07:58.000 We're going to get to more of this analysis in just one second.

00:08:01.000 More facts, more news.

00:08:02.000 And the media I think there's a comfort right now to people reverting to partisan priors. 1.00

00:08:09.000 It makes you feel like the world is half normal when you can just go on Twitter and rail at people about stupid crap. 1.00

00:08:13.000 But the reality is the world is not normal. 0.99

00:08:16.000 And we need to put some of this nonsense aside for just like five seconds would be really nice.

00:08:20.000 Because frankly, I'm tired of it.

00:08:21.000 You're tired of it.

00:08:21.000 I was tired of it before all this happened.

00:08:23.000 I think you were tired of it before all this stuff happened. 1.00

00:08:25.000 The fighting over stupid garbage every single day. 0.99

00:08:28.000 I'm really tired of it when, you know, I have to worry about the health of my children and my parents. 1.00

00:08:32.000 And I think that most people feel the same way.

00:08:33.000 And the media definitely exacerbate that. 0.88

00:08:35.000 President Trump doesn't bring the temperature down, but the media definitely exacerbate that.

00:08:38.000 We'll show you how in just a few minutes.

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00:09:49.000 Okay, so...

00:09:51.000 There is a piece of quasi-good news, although not as good as you would want it to be.

00:09:55.000 There's a new study that was published in the Lancet Infectious Diseases Medical Journal yesterday, and it estimates the death rate of coronavirus is significantly lower than previously reported.

00:10:03.000 Now, originally, the WHO, Director General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, said the estimated mortality rate of COVID-19 globally was about 3.4%.

00:10:11.000 Dr. Anthony Fauci had suggested that it might be anywhere from 1 to 2% based on initial reports out of other countries.

00:10:17.000 He said that in the first week.

00:10:19.000 But we are now seeing a report from Lancet estimating that the 1% fatality rate is probably too high.

00:10:26.000 A more accurate estimation of the percent of people who will die from complications from the virus, according to researchers, is about 0.66%.

00:10:35.000 Now, before we all start getting excited, 0.66 is still six times deadlier, almost seven times deadlier than the average seasonal flu.

00:10:42.000 CNN explains, when undetected infections aren't taken into account, the Lancet study found the coronavirus death rate was 1.38%, which is more consistent with earlier reports.

00:10:51.000 But again, one of the big problems here when you're calculating the fatality rate is the denominator.

00:10:55.000 And as we now know, a lot of people are lying about the denominator in these particular cases.

00:11:00.000 We don't know how many Unsymptomatic cases there are out there.

00:11:04.000 The estimates have been anywhere from for every person who has symptoms, five to ten people may not have symptoms.

00:11:09.000 We have no idea how transmissible it is because there's a new report today suggesting this thing may be passable through air.

00:11:14.000 Again, take all these sort of new reports to the grain of salt because we just don't know.

00:11:17.000 That hasn't been confirmed yet.

00:11:19.000 With all of that said, the lockdowns have now become policy across the United States.

00:11:23.000 We are seeing three quarters of the American population locked in place for the most part. 0.56

00:11:29.000 According to the New York Times, we are seeing out of every four Americans, three have restrictions on movement at this point, which is a lot of Americans locked in place.

00:11:40.000 And I'm not going to be the person who says that it's time to go out and party it up, because that is not what the models are suggesting.

00:11:46.000 According to the New York Times, the American public on Tuesday is expected to get its first look at the statistical models guiding the policy decisions that have led governors and mayors across the country to order more than 250 million people to stay at home.

00:11:57.000 Dr. Deborah Birx tried to brace both President Trump and the country for some tough weeks ahead.

00:12:01.000 Yesterday, she said even if all the social distancing guidelines are followed perfectly, the death toll in the nation could reach 100,000 to 200,000.

00:12:07.000 Now, that would be She says, best case scenario, that'd be about twice, on the low end, that'd be about twice what we lose every year from the seasonal flu.

00:12:15.000 As I say, we lose about 650,000 people a year from heart disease in the United States, another 600,000 people from cancer.

00:12:20.000 That'd be really dangerous.

00:12:21.000 The problem is that if we release everybody into the wild, the theory goes, it's not gonna be 100,000 or 200,000 dead, it could be a million dead, right?

00:12:29.000 Which would easily make this the leading cause of death in the United States, and it would keep recurring year after year until there is some sort of vaccination or herd immunity.

00:12:37.000 Nations across Europe have continued to see the steady rise in new infections and death.

00:12:41.000 In the United States, the outbreak in New York remains the largest in the nation.

00:12:44.000 More than 1,200 deaths weeks away from its apex, according to Governor Andrew Cuomo.

00:12:47.000 More than 250 coronavirus patients died between Sunday and Monday.

00:12:51.000 The governor said that number could ultimately reach 800 a day in New York alone.

00:12:54.000 In Michigan, state officials reported 50 additional deaths on Monday.

00:12:57.000 Governor John Bel Edwards of Louisiana said his state is already a few weeks behind New York.

00:13:01.000 One of the reasons why You know, we got to wait this thing out, is because for every day that people don't abide by the restrictions, that's another day when on the other end you're going to have to abide by the restrictions.

00:13:10.000 Because eventually we're all going to be in lockdown until this thing passes, given the possibility of massive carnage across the United States.

00:13:19.000 So, that is where things stand.

00:13:21.000 Over in Virginia, Governor Ralph Northam has declared that people should stay in place up until June.

00:13:28.000 He says all the way until June.

00:13:29.000 Remember, it is not even April yet, right?

00:13:31.000 April is tomorrow.

00:13:32.000 Now, the updated order allows for people to leave their homes if they have to go out for food, supplies, medical care, or to get fresh air, or exercise.

00:13:39.000 It also allows people to travel to workplaces of worship, child care providers, and for volunteering, caretaking, and to seek Social services.

00:13:45.000 So the order is not quite as restrictive as people are making it out to be.

00:13:48.000 It's not like the full-on stay-in-place order that is in place in New York City.

00:13:52.000 A lot of businesses are still open in Virginia.

00:13:55.000 And this is basically the rule.

00:13:56.000 The more restrictive the rule, the less amount of time you can keep people in place.

00:14:01.000 Because in the end, you cannot keep people in place indefinitely, especially as the economy goes down the tubes.

00:14:07.000 And as we're going to see, there's some pretty significant ramifications to the economy going down the tubes.

00:14:10.000 Now last week, if you mentioned this, this is very bad.

00:14:13.000 You weren't supposed to talk about this because this was undermining the work of trying to get people to stay at home.

00:14:17.000 But if you look over at Italy, it is pretty obvious that people cannot stay indoors indefinitely.

00:14:22.000 Italy is now risking the possibility of riots, according to Bloomberg.

00:14:27.000 As Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte fights to hold Italian society together through a crippling nationwide lockdown, the depressed South is turning into a powder keg.

00:14:33.000 Police have been deployed on the streets of Sicily's capital Palermo amid reports that gangs are using social media to plot attacks on stores.

00:14:39.000 A bankrupt ferry company halted service to Palermo, including vital supplies of food and medicine.

00:14:44.000 As the state creaks under the strain of the coronavirus pandemic, officials worry the mafia may be preparing to step in.

00:14:49.000 Now, Italy has always been a place with a thriving black market.

00:14:52.000 Estimates suggest that perhaps half of Italy's economy, thanks to high tax rates and low ability to govern, is in the black market.

00:14:59.000 So it is not a great shock that the breakdown of the system has caused the criminal syndicates to step in.

00:15:04.000 But With that said, the longer you see states locking down, the more strain there's going to be on supply chains, because who exactly is going to pay for the groceries?

00:15:13.000 Who's going to make sure people keep going back to work?

00:15:17.000 Normally the market does all of those things, but when the market has been forcibly suspended by government, what you start to see is people saying, okay, I'm not going to do this anymore.

00:15:25.000 What happens if the food doesn't get delivered on time?

00:15:27.000 What happens if the rent check doesn't come on time?

00:15:30.000 We're going to start to see that sort of unrest in the United States too if this thing goes on long enough.

00:15:33.000 So that's why it's imperative that we all lock down, like do it right now, lower that curve, ramp up production as fast as possible, and hopefully we can all start getting this economy moving again to forestall the kind of activity we are seeing in Italy.

00:15:46.000 Hopefully we can do all of that faster rather than slower so that we can not see riots in the streets and violence in the streets the way that Italy is apparently going to see pretty soon.

00:15:55.000 These are unthinkable things that we're talking about.

00:15:57.000 But they are not so unthinkable that we shouldn't be talking about them, given the fact that in the past, in United States history, when we have had depressions like this, there's been significant civil unrest.

00:16:07.000 People tend to forget this about the Great Depression.

00:16:08.000 There was an entire march on Washington by veterans.

00:16:11.000 And that march on Washington was utilized by FDR in the 1932 election as sort of a baton to wield against Herbert Hoover.

00:16:20.000 But it actually got fairly dangerous.

00:16:21.000 I mean, there was serious concern that there was going to be like an armed insurrection in Washington, DC in 1932.

00:16:26.000 This is all stuff that we should be keeping our eye on and it should be an impetus for all of us to do what we can to flatten that curve so we can all get back to work ASAP.

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00:16:37.000 We're going to get into more of this in just one second.

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00:17:50.000 Okay, so South Florida is going to be locked down until April 15th, according to Ron DeSantis.

00:17:55.000 So we're seeing sort of these differing timelines.

00:17:57.000 And again, those timelines will all converge because the data is going to drive this.

00:18:00.000 If it turns out that the pandemic is still out there and that the risk of an exponential increase in death Continuing for a long period of time.

00:18:10.000 If that risk continues to be out there, then you're going to see these deadlines extended.

00:18:14.000 DeSantis announced on Monday morning those living in Southeast Florida should stay home until mid-May to mitigate the spread of COVID-19.

00:18:22.000 But then he walked that back to April 15th for an end date to what he called the safer at home order for millions of residents in Washington, D.C.

00:18:31.000 They've decided to go even further over the top.

00:18:33.000 Mayor Muriel Bowser is now threatening residents of Washington, D.C. with 90 days in jail and a five thousand dollar fine if you leave your home during the coronavirus outbreak, which is a shocking threat, obviously.

00:18:46.000 You know, what the penalties should be.

00:18:47.000 remains the same.

00:18:48.000 The stay at home order has exceptions for grocery shopping and work deemed essential.

00:18:48.000 Stay at home.

00:18:52.000 Outdoor recreation like running is allowed, but can't involve people outside of a household.

00:18:56.000 You know, what the penalties should be, like if you're arrested for going outside your home, I mean, this is basically military lockdown.

00:19:04.000 This is, you know, that's over the top.

00:19:07.000 I mean, I don't, right now you're letting criminals out of prison, so I'm confused as to how you exactly expect to enforce a lockdown order like this.

00:19:16.000 We're just arresting people en masse on the streets of Washington, D.C.

00:19:19.000 Well, in some better news, in, well, In some better news, we are in fact ramping up production of the machinery necessary in order to keep that curve beneath the available level of medical supply.

00:19:33.000 According to Mike Colius at the Wall Street Journal, when President Trump last week criticized General Motors' efforts to produce ventilators, Jim executives were flabbergasted because they'd already begun collaborating with a ventilator company a couple of weeks earlier and had mobilized more than a thousand employees, nearly a hundred auto suppliers to start making the machines.

00:19:48.000 We won't let it deter us, said GM Global Manufacturing Chief Gerald Johnson.

00:19:52.000 Every ventilator is a life.

00:19:53.000 From GM's account, since mid-March, they have been ramping up their ability to do ventilators.

00:19:59.000 So the GM contingent has been shifting over its production.

00:20:02.000 Ford said on Monday it's working with General Electric to make 50,000 ventilators at one of the automaker's facilities in Michigan by early July.

00:20:09.000 Obviously, we're lagging on this sort of stuff, but The real problem here is the disconnect between what Ventec, which is the company that really designs these things, said that it could produce, and what they actually can produce.

00:20:20.000 Ventec had provided a range of possibilities for monthly production of ventilators, one as high as $20,000 a month.

00:20:25.000 Each scenario required a gradual increase for the GM operation to get up and running.

00:20:29.000 The Trump administration was under the impression it could move to full production faster.

00:20:32.000 They said they were going to give us a $40,000 much-needed ventilators very quickly, Trump said in a Twitter post, but they were not able to do that.

00:20:40.000 So we are ramping up production.

00:20:43.000 President Trump pointed that out yesterday.

00:20:44.000 He said private companies are in the process of making hundreds of thousands of ventilators, so help is on the way.

00:20:49.000 Here's President Trump yesterday in his daily presser.

00:20:52.000 So we have 10,000.

00:20:53.000 We kept them for this very specific purpose.

00:20:57.000 It sounds like a lot, but it's not when you think about it.

00:20:59.000 But we're making a lot.

00:21:01.000 And when you see you're talking about hundreds of thousands being made in a very short period of time, because if you look at what just so we have now 10 companies at least making the ventilators.

00:21:13.000 And we say go ahead, because honestly, other countries really they'll never be able to do it.

00:21:18.000 It's a very complex piece of equipment.

00:21:20.000 And it's it's big and expensive.

00:21:23.000 Okay, so we are ramping up production.

00:21:24.000 That is the good news.

00:21:26.000 Now the question is, how well is all of this going to work?

00:21:28.000 There's an editorial from the Wall Street Journal today talking about all of this.

00:21:32.000 They say the good news is that the fatality forecast that's being put forward by the administration, 100,000 to 200,000 deaths, is much lower than the 2.2 million The president suggested as a worst case that figure, of course, comes not courtesy of the president.

00:21:44.000 That figure comes from Great Britain, the Imperial College study that has been so widely cited.

00:21:48.000 Estimates could still shift significantly, says the Wall Street Journal.

00:21:51.000 The Murray Group plans to update its model as more data flow in from states and other countries.

00:21:55.000 The Murray model is the one that is coming from University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation.

00:22:00.000 The Murray Model measures deaths in terms of population rather than confirmed cases because testing varies geographically.

00:22:06.000 It's also extrapolating U.S.

00:22:07.000 fatalities based on evidence from other hotspots and Wuhan in China after government lockdowns.

00:22:11.000 One important point is it took 27 days after strict social distancing was implemented in Wuhan before the daily deaths peaked.

00:22:17.000 New York, California, other states that took early action to close non-essential businesses were starting week three.

00:22:22.000 So it's still probably another week and a half before we hit peak minimum.

00:22:26.000 Data out of China may not be reliable.

00:22:27.000 The Murray study underlines modeling for U.S.

00:22:29.000 states based on one completed epidemic, at least for the first wave, and many incomplete epidemics is intrinsically challenging.

00:22:34.000 That may be especially true if China has been lying about their numbers, which is extraordinarily likely.

00:22:39.000 The Murray model also simulates healthcare utilization in the states over time based on other countries' experience and their projected fatalities in the United States, About 64,000 more hospital beds, 17,000 ICU beds, 19,000 ventilators on average will be needed nationwide, but demand will be most acute in a handful of states according to that study being cited by the University of Washington.

00:23:00.000 For instance, according to the Wall Street Journal, New York will need an estimated 35,000 more hospital and 7,300 ICU beds next week when demand for care is projected to peak, which is a lot, but that's a lot fewer than the 55,000 to 110,000 hospital beds and 18,000 to 37,000 ICU beds that public health officials had said a week ago Could be needed, which shows how quickly these projections can vary and change over time.

00:23:22.000 The Murray summary says daily deaths in the mean forecast exceeds 2300 by the second week of April.

00:23:27.000 Well, peak demand will occur at the national level in the second week of April.

00:23:30.000 This does vary by states.

00:23:31.000 We may see some bumps along the way as various states hit their own peaks.

00:23:36.000 So these statistical models are incredibly variable.

00:23:38.000 It's difficult to make policy based on them.

00:23:39.000 One of the big problems with them also is that they're basically unverifiable because if the social distancing works, if we all stay at home and then the numbers are way lower, the temptation is going to be to say, well, I guess we did too much.

00:23:51.000 Maybe we shouldn't have done that in the first place.

00:23:54.000 And so it's sort of unverifiable in the sense that perhaps if we didn't do it at all, the death rates would have been exactly the same.

00:24:00.000 But at this point, better that we do too much for a cut.

00:24:03.000 Look, we're locked down anyway.

00:24:04.000 Better that we all abide by the lockdown.

00:24:05.000 At least let the rules work for a couple of weeks until we see what exactly this thing looks like.

00:24:10.000 Now, one of the reasons it's hard to tell whether this thing is working or not is because other nations are indeed lying about their own statistics.

00:24:18.000 Mike Pompeo made this point yesterday.

00:24:20.000 Secretary of State Pompeo, he said that there are lots of nations out there that are withholding their own data.

00:24:24.000 He was on with Sean Hannity and he says, listen, we have to deal with the fact that we have incomplete data and all of our modeling is based on this incomplete data.

00:24:33.000 President Trump and I have been committed to making sure that we had the best data available.

00:24:37.000 When you hear doctors Fauci and Birx talk about risk, talk about fatalities, trying to think about how to model, what they need is data.

00:24:45.000 They need data from Italy, they need data from China, they need data from Iran.

00:24:50.000 We need every country to step up and provide accurate, transparent information.

00:24:54.000 If we can't have that, if we have disinformation instead, there are more lives that will be at risk, not only today, but in the weeks ahead as we battle this enormous challenge.

00:25:04.000 Yeah, that is obviously and eminently true.

00:25:06.000 The fact that China has been lying all along is a serious, serious problem. 0.98

00:25:09.000 And now we find out that China does have additional data they've not been releasing.

00:25:13.000 Not only if we, like, everyone sort of suspects they've been lying about their death statistics.

00:25:16.000 Like, if you think they've had no deaths for several months over in China, I think you have another thing coming.

00:25:21.000 I mean, there was information we read from Radio Free Asia yesterday suggesting there may have been up to 40,000 deaths in Wuhan, which would obviously radically shift all of the modeling that is happening.

00:25:29.000 It would look a lot closer to Italy than it would look to South Korea, China.

00:25:32.000 But with that said, China apparently has been hiding other statistics as well.

00:25:37.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, China When they counted their infected population, they excluded infected people with no symptoms.

00:25:44.000 This actually would lower the fatality rate in China.

00:25:47.000 So the original statistics that were being handed out by the WHO were incredibly skewed.

00:25:51.000 This we already know.

00:25:52.000 It turns out that China might have been just lying about all of this.

00:25:55.000 China said that more than 1,500 people who were infected with the new coronavirus but haven't shown symptoms were excluded from its national tally of confirmed cases.

00:26:02.000 As questions arise about its accounting of the infectious disease that burst into a worldwide pandemic, according to the Wall Street Journal, public concerns about the risk of infections by asymptomatic carriers have grown in recent weeks as China begins to relax its cordon around Wuhan, a city where the virus was first identified.

00:26:16.000 Now, if China thinks there are only 1,500 people infected with coronavirus with no symptoms who were out there, that, of course, is utterly untrue.

00:26:23.000 We were measuring that 3.4% fatality rate based on China's confirmed cases versus the number of people who had died with the confirmed cases.

00:26:30.000 But if they think there are only 1,500 people who were measured, who were asymptomatic, that, of course, is absolute nonsense.

00:26:36.000 Chang Jil, a top Chinese health official, said at a press briefing in Wuhan on Tuesday that the country would report the number of infected people who are not showing symptoms beginning on Wednesday.

00:26:46.000 Zhang Guang, chief epidemiologist of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention, told a state news magazine, it's okay if they aren't included in the tally of confirmed cases.

00:26:53.000 The key question is, have those people been put under restriction?

00:26:56.000 Scientists do not have a consensus on the impact of asymptomatic cases.

00:26:59.000 Italian scientists tracing almost 6,000 infections around Lombardy, for instance, found nasal swabs of asymptomatic carriers had similar amounts of virus as those with symptoms, which could make them contagious, according to a pre-publication draft.

00:27:10.000 But they said the small number of asymptomatic cases turned up in contact tracing may mean such carriers have played a limited role in spreading the virus, which would mean that the fatality rate is higher than originally suspected.

00:27:19.000 So bottom line is we just don't know anything at this point.

00:27:22.000 And also until we have an antibody test, we're not going to know how many people had this thing and then got over this thing.

00:27:27.000 We're just not going to know.

00:27:28.000 One of the things that makes this also extremely difficult is because of lack of testing and because nobody wants to go to get tested unless you absolutely have to get tested.

00:27:35.000 There are a lot of cases of the flu that are out there that people probably think is coronavirus and that is not.

00:27:41.000 Like a couple of weeks ago, my son came down with a fever.

00:27:43.000 And we were all freaked out about it.

00:27:45.000 He had a fever.

00:27:46.000 It was like for four days.

00:27:47.000 It was a low-grade fever.

00:27:48.000 He wasn't feeling good.

00:27:50.000 And we went in and we got him a test.

00:27:53.000 It took them two weeks to get us the results.

00:27:54.000 We literally just got the results, and he was negative for coronavirus.

00:27:58.000 Now, given what is out there, we thought, OK, well, there's a possibility that he has coronavirus.

00:28:04.000 But he did not have coronavirus.

00:28:06.000 It's a seasonal thing.

00:28:07.000 Lots of flu cases out there right now.

00:28:09.000 And this is bolloxing up a lot of the data.

00:28:11.000 As we're going to see, New York has started to assess whether the social distancing measures are actually lowering the curve.

00:28:17.000 One of the things they're using Is temperature numbers lowering?

00:28:20.000 Well, there's a problem with that, which is temperature numbers.

00:28:23.000 He didn't have coronavirus in the first place.

00:28:23.000 My son popped a fever.

00:28:25.000 That's a big con found.

00:28:27.000 But it is certainly true, as Mike Pompeo says, that without complete information, it's going to be extraordinarily difficult for us to tell what the hell is going on. 0.96

00:28:34.000 And here, we need to point out that the World Health Organization is a garbage heap. 0.94

00:28:37.000 They're just awful at their jobs, the World Health Organization. 0.80

00:28:40.000 Not only did they buy China's lie originally, that there was no human-to-human transmission, not only did they wildly overwrite the fatality rate because of Chinese misinformation, not only were the heads of the WHO hanging up on reporters in Hong Kong who were asking about the Chinese government, but it now turns out that the World Health Organization has basically become a tool of Hong Kong. 0.51

00:29:03.000 The World Health Organization has done nothing About the Chinese government apparently reopening their wet markets.

00:29:11.000 They're reopening the wet markets.

00:29:13.000 Again, it is neither racist nor culturally insensitive to point out that eating the freaking bats is a terrible idea and that these wet markets have now been responsible for both SARS and this particular disease. 0.99

00:29:24.000 And that, frankly, you should not be allowing wet markets, which have externalities, to be open in any, like, it's amazing to me, I will say this, it is amazing to me, I said this on an earlier podcast and people sort of went nuts, at least on the hardcore left who have lost their complete, ever-loving minds.

00:29:40.000 Look, if you, I don't understand, if you're an animal rights lover, why exactly are you resisting my call for shutting the wet markets, which are some of the most brutal, vicious places on earth?

00:29:51.000 They're truly awful.

00:29:53.000 I mean, you're talking about the killing of exotic animals for meat.

00:29:57.000 And in many cases, they're not killed.

00:29:58.000 They're eaten while they're alive in some cases.

00:30:00.000 I mean, it's just like, it's horrific.

00:30:01.000 It's horrific in the ultimate.

00:30:05.000 Stephen Miller, not the one from the administration, the columnist Stephen Miller over at Twitter, Red Seas.

00:30:10.000 He has a piece in the American Spectator talking about this.

00:30:12.000 He says, the World Health Organization is not just standing by and letting this happen.

00:30:15.000 They're even running interference for China.

00:30:17.000 During an interview this weekend with Hong Kong's RTHK News, Dr. Bruce Aylward blanked questions about Taiwan's membership of the World Health Organization.

00:30:25.000 Taiwan is excluded from the WHO thanks to China, who backed current WHO Director General Tedros Adhanom. 0.75

00:30:30.000 At first, Aylward awkwardly pretended not to hear the question.

00:30:33.000 We played this tape yesterday, and then he abruptly ended the call.

00:30:36.000 Shortly after the video call went viral on Twitter, Aylward's name was scrubbed from the WHO website.

00:30:41.000 Taiwan's foreign minister said the WHO should set politics aside in dealing with the pandemic, but the WHO has been nothing but political throughout the COVID-19 outbreak.

00:30:49.000 There's going to have to be some real changes in how we deal with international institutions like the WHO and the aftermath of all of this.

00:30:57.000 With all of this said, is this working?

00:30:59.000 Well, we have some evidence that it is.

00:31:01.000 And we have some evidence that things are still going to get really bad, even if it is.

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00:32:21.000 Okay, so there is some good news.

00:32:29.000 I'm trying to give you the good news and the bad news.

00:32:31.000 I want to give you the fulsome oversight of the data so that we all know what's going on.

00:32:36.000 Because I don't like alarmism.

00:32:37.000 I don't like the, we're all going to die if we step outside kind of stuff, and we should never get the economy back going, and we're all going to live in lockdown forever, and the government should take over the entire economy.

00:32:45.000 I don't like that kind of stuff.

00:32:46.000 On the other side, I don't like the whistling past the graveyard.

00:32:49.000 Everything is fine.

00:32:50.000 All of this is overblown.

00:32:51.000 Nothing bad is happening.

00:32:53.000 I'm going to, again, the theme of this show, until there is further data, is we don't have enough data.

00:32:58.000 You're allowed to say that.

00:32:59.000 We don't have enough data.

00:33:00.000 We don't know yet.

00:33:01.000 We don't know yet.

00:33:02.000 All we can do is watch the trend lines.

00:33:04.000 In Italy, things seem to have started to flatten out in terms of new cases being diagnosed.

00:33:08.000 The question is going to be how they release people back into society, how we tranche people back into society, Do we go through and find all the people who've already had it? 0.93

00:33:15.000 Are they the first people to go back to work?

00:33:17.000 Is it young, healthy people who are the first to go back to work?

00:33:19.000 What sort of social restrictions are put on?

00:33:20.000 Do we have masks and social distancing in place?

00:33:24.000 The recovery here, so let's put it this way, I think there's going to be two stages to the recovery when it comes to the economy.

00:33:30.000 The first stage to the recovery is going to be a bit of a U-shaped recovery, a soft launch of the economy, people starting to go back to work slowly in waves as we recover from this.

00:33:39.000 And then after a vaccine is developed, this is going to be the roaring 20s, the roaring 2020s.

00:33:43.000 People are going to be so It's gonna be like orgies in the streets people at giant raves like people people are gonna lose it because after being locked down for a year if you're a 20 year old having been locked down for a year the the notion that you are going to not go to every party that is possibly imaginable is just Insanity, right?

00:34:02.000 I mean, that's what's going to happen.

00:34:03.000 And then the economy will explode because people are going to spend lots of money.

00:34:05.000 People are going to want to be creative.

00:34:06.000 People are going to want to get out.

00:34:08.000 So let's put it this way.

00:34:09.000 Do I think this is forever?

00:34:10.000 No, I don't think this is forever.

00:34:11.000 Do I think this is bad for... I think it's worse for the next couple of months.

00:34:16.000 I think after that...

00:34:18.000 It's unpleasant for a few months after that.

00:34:21.000 And then hopefully by the early part of next year, we have vaccine in the works.

00:34:25.000 And then I think everything explodes.

00:34:27.000 And I think the economy not only moves forward, I think it moves forward at an extraordinary rate because I think everybody goes back to work and we're all excited to be out there.

00:34:34.000 I mean, it'll feel like the first day of spring in Boston, right?

00:34:38.000 All of this sort of feels like when I was in law school in Cambridge.

00:34:42.000 The winter was really long.

00:34:43.000 It was really lonely. 0.92

00:34:44.000 It really sucked.

00:34:45.000 All there was to do was basically hang out in your dorm room. 0.92

00:34:48.000 And I didn't drink, but a lot of my friends were.

00:34:50.000 A lot of alcoholism at Harvard Law School during the winter.

00:34:54.000 And then first day of spring.

00:34:55.000 And by spring, I mean like it's 50 degrees outside.

00:34:58.000 First day of spring, everybody is out.

00:35:00.000 Everybody wants to be outside.

00:35:01.000 Everybody wants that.

00:35:02.000 That's what it's going to be like on the other end of this.

00:35:03.000 So let's keep that in mind.

00:35:04.000 There is a light at the end of the tunnel here.

00:35:06.000 The good news is that apparently the Restrictions are slowing coronavirus infections, according to new data.

00:35:11.000 The New York Times says harsh measures, including stay-at-home orders and restaurant closures, are contributing to rapid drops in the number of fevers, a signal symptom of most coronavirus infections, recorded in states across the country, according to intriguing new data produced by a medical technology firm.

00:35:24.000 At least 248 million Americans in at least 29 states have been told to stay at home.

00:35:29.000 It seemed nearly impossible for public health officials to know how effective this measure and others have been in slowing coronavirus.

00:35:34.000 But the new data offer evidence in real time that tight social distancing restrictions may be working, potentially reducing hospital overcrowding and lowering death rates, according to the experts.

00:35:43.000 The company, Kinza Health, produced a national map of fever levels on March 22nd, was able to spot the trend within a day.

00:35:49.000 Since then, data from the health departments of New York State and Washington State have buttressed the finding, making it clear that social distancing has saved lives.

00:35:57.000 This became obvious because President Trump extended the, until the end of April, his recommendation that Americans stay in lockdown.

00:36:04.000 Kinza has more than 1 million thermometers in circulation.

00:36:07.000 They've been getting up to 162,000 daily temperature readings since COVID-19 began spreading in the country.

00:36:12.000 The company normally uses that data to track the spread of influenza.

00:36:15.000 To identify clusters of coronavirus infection, Kinza recently adapted its software to detect spikes of atypical fever that don't correlate with historical flu patterns.

00:36:23.000 As of noon Wednesday, the company's live map showed fevers holding steady or dropping almost universally across the country, with two prominent exceptions.

00:36:29.000 One was in an area of New Mexico, where the governor only issued stay-at-home orders the day before, and also in adjacent counties in southern Colorado.

00:36:36.000 The other was a ring of Louisiana parishes surrounding New Orleans, but 100 and 150 miles away from it, and that was possibly caused by the outward local spread of infections from New Orleans, which was set off by crowding during Mardi Gras.

00:36:48.000 So some information, this thing is starting to be tamped down.

00:36:50.000 Meanwhile, Bob Wachter, who is one of the chief, he's the chair of UCSF Medicine over at Berkeley.

00:36:58.000 He said yesterday that there is no change in the hospital's status at UCSF.

00:37:04.000 And he says that our command center briefings now seem less newsy, like we're over prepped for a surge that may not be coming, which will be great.

00:37:11.000 He says the overall case is still mild growth.

00:37:14.000 In San Francisco, everyone is struggling with the curve is flat versus calm before the storm narratives, but even pessimists are starting to tilt toward the former.

00:37:20.000 So maybe these lockdown measures are working.

00:37:21.000 We also discussed yesterday the fact that coronavirus slowdowns in Seattle suggest the restrictions are working.

00:37:26.000 Now in New York, which is ground zero for all of this, it's where the most people are.

00:37:31.000 It's where people are living in extraordinarily close quarters.

00:37:34.000 Things are getting bad over there.

00:37:37.000 How bad remains to be seen.

00:37:39.000 There's an article in the Wall Street Journal today talking about NYU Langone telling ER doctors to think more critically about who gets ventilators, which of course is the sort of rationing that we've seen in Italy, which is so frightening.

00:37:49.000 NYU Langone Health, one of the nation's top academic medical centers, told emergency room doctors they have sole discretion to place patients on ventilators and institutional backing to withhold futile intubations.

00:37:59.000 So they're not going to force people to put people on ventilators if they believe that that is going to be a complete waste of time.

00:38:04.000 A March 28th email from Robert Femia, who heads the New York Health Center's Department of Emergency Medicine, underscored the life-or-death decisions placed on the shoulders of bedside physicians as they treat increasing numbers of coronavirus patients with a limited supply of ventilators.

00:38:16.000 New York state guidelines established in 2015 recommend that hospitals appoint a triage officer or committee to decide who gets a ventilator when rationing is necessary.

00:38:24.000 The guidelines say that removing the decision from the physician treating the patient avoids conflict of interest, allows an officer or committee with access to overall ventilator availability to make the call, prevents health worker burnout and stress.

00:38:35.000 But Dr. Femia says we just don't have time to do all of this stuff.

00:38:39.000 In emergency medicine, we don't have the luxury of time, data, or committees to help with our critical triage decisions, he wrote.

00:38:43.000 Senior hospital leadership recognizes this and supports us to use our best clinical judgment.

00:38:48.000 Femia wrote that decisions about airway management and whether to use a ventilator or other respiratory support devices were at the sole discretion of treating physicians.

00:38:54.000 He told doctors to think more critically about whom we intubate.

00:38:57.000 That, of course, is scary, scary stuff.

00:38:59.000 Now, with that said, Andrew Cuomo, the governor of New York, he says that the rate of doubling is already down.

00:39:04.000 Both things can be true. 0.75

00:39:05.000 Right.

00:39:06.000 It can be that we end up in a very bad medical situation in New York because there are shortages of ventilators and shortages of ICU beds.

00:39:12.000 And also it can be true that things are getting better, but we're not going to see the impact of things getting better, particularly in terms of the deaths, which trail the hospitalizations by a week to two weeks, that we may not see the results of this in the death rates for another week or two.

00:39:24.000 Here's Andrew Cuomo yesterday saying that the rate of doubling is already down in New York, thanks to the measures being taken.

00:39:31.000 The number goes up, the number goes down.

00:39:34.000 There's no doubt that the number is still increasing.

00:39:38.000 There's also no doubt that the rate has slowed.

00:39:44.000 We had a doubling of cases every two days.

00:39:48.000 Then a doubling every three days, then a doubling every four days, then every five.

00:39:53.000 We now have a doubling of cases every six days.

00:39:57.000 So while the overall number is going up, the rate of doubling is actually down.

00:40:05.000 So Chris Cuomo, by the way, in breaking news has come down with coronavirus as well.

00:40:08.000 So prominent people are not escaping coronavirus.

00:40:11.000 They're just able to get tests more quickly.

00:40:12.000 Although at this point, testing has been radically increased.

00:40:18.000 Look, it's scary out there.

00:40:20.000 Andrew Cuomo, yesterday, he basically was pleading for healthcare workers to come out.

00:40:24.000 Again, I can't say it enough.

00:40:25.000 The people who are going out in the midst of this epidemic, this pandemic, and are risking their lives, seriously risking their lives to take care of people, those are the people storming the beaches in Normandy.

00:40:35.000 I mean, this is heroism.

00:40:36.000 If you're watching the respiratory therapists, the nurses, the doctors, the people who are on the front lines of this thing, going out and doing this thing, nothing but Admiration for those people.

00:40:46.000 They, honestly, Congressional Medals of Honor for all of them when this is over.

00:40:50.000 Like, Mass Congressional Medal of Honor.

00:40:51.000 Because it's, you're putting your life at risk doing this sort of thing.

00:40:54.000 I mean, we've seen reports from other countries that 25% of healthcare workers are coming down with this because you're in close proximity with people who have this incredibly transmissible virus.

00:41:01.000 Here's Andrew Cuomo pleading for healthcare workers yesterday.

00:41:04.000 By the way, about 80,000 people in New York State have responded, which is just incredible.

00:41:07.000 I mean, what a country this is.

00:41:09.000 Here's Andrew Cuomo.

00:41:11.000 As governor of New York, I am asking healthcare professionals across the country, if you don't have a healthcare crisis in your community, please come help us in New York now.

00:41:26.000 We need relief.

00:41:28.000 We need relief for nurses who are working 12-hour shifts, one after the other after the other. 1.00

00:41:35.000 We need relief for doctors.

00:41:37.000 We need relief for attendants. 0.94

00:41:39.000 So if you're not busy, come help us, please.

00:41:44.000 And we will return the favor.

00:41:48.000 So, you know, that call did not go unheeded, you know, and healthcare workers have been stepping forward.

00:41:53.000 Now, obviously there's an enormous amount of economic fallout from all of this as well.

00:41:59.000 The estimates from the Federal Reserve is that coronavirus job losses could total 47 million.

00:42:05.000 47 million, which is just an insane number.

00:42:08.000 The Fed estimates unemployment rate may hit 32%.

00:42:09.000 Now, again, We can all hope and pray this is short-term.

00:42:13.000 It will be short-term, because we're not all gonna remain in lockdown forever.

00:42:16.000 But 32% unemployment, I mean, those are levels that not even the Great Depression reached.

00:42:21.000 I mean, these are insane levels of unemployment.

00:42:23.000 Of course, that was caused by bad government action, bad government policy.

00:42:29.000 This is being caused by the forcible lockdown of the entire global economy, which will be alleviated as coronavirus itself wanes.

00:42:35.000 But, I mean, these are nightmare scenario numbers.

00:42:39.000 The projections are much worse than St.

00:42:40.000 Louis Fed President James Bullard's much-publicized estimate of 30%, according to CNBC.

00:42:44.000 They reflect the high nature of at-risk jobs that ultimately could be lost due to a government-induced economic freeze aimed at halting the coronavirus spread.

00:42:51.000 St.

00:42:51.000 Fed economist Miguel Faria y Castro wrote, these are very large numbers by historical standards.

00:42:55.000 This is a rather unique shock, unlike any other experienced by the US economy in the last 100 years.

00:43:00.000 Now, this does not account for workers who may drop out of the labor force, which brings down the headline unemployment rate.

00:43:05.000 They do not estimate the impact of recently passed government stimulus, which will extend unemployment benefits and subsidize companies for not cutting staff.

00:43:11.000 But we are estimating that by the end of the week, another almost 3 million people will join the unemployment lines.

00:43:17.000 Now, people are going to receive unemployment.

00:43:19.000 That was in the new $2 trillion stimulus bill.

00:43:21.000 People are going to be receiving unemployment that basically amounts to obviously the $1,200 check per month, but they're also going to be receiving unemployment benefits that fill in most of what people were making is what was in that bill.

00:43:34.000 When you file for unemployment for the next four months.

00:43:37.000 Most people are not going to be receiving a check until mid-April.

00:43:40.000 So April to May, May to June, June to July, July to August.

00:43:42.000 So you could be receiving checks up through August, according to current estimates.

00:43:45.000 Hopefully, the goal is by the time we get to June and July, people are starting to hire back.

00:43:50.000 We are seeing massive furloughs over at Macy's and Gap.

00:43:54.000 Now, we here at The Daily Wear, we're trying to make sure that everybody stays employed.

00:43:56.000 Everybody in every company is working to make sure that they don't have to lay off workers.

00:44:01.000 Macy Gap, other retailers are furloughing tens of thousands of employees beginning this week.

00:44:05.000 The furloughs add to the swelling ranks of the unemployed and the economic damage resulting from coronavirus, which has now infected more than 150,000 people, according to The Wall Street Journal.

00:44:13.000 The federal rescue package provides direct payments to individuals, enhanced unemployment benefits, and loans for small employers that keep people on their payrolls.

00:44:21.000 Macy's closed its doors March 17th.

00:44:23.000 Macy's employs roughly 125,000 people.

00:44:25.000 They said the majority of those employees will be furloughed.

00:44:28.000 they'll still have access to the company health benefits.

00:44:30.000 Gap is doing the same thing.

00:44:33.000 They're furloughing 80,000 people.

00:44:34.000 The difference between a furloughing and a firing is the assumption is that at a certain point, the retail shops will open back up and those people will come back on the job.

00:44:41.000 So it's not a full on firing.

00:44:42.000 In the midst of all of this, there is some talk of economic turmoil and that is going to be exacerbated by the length of this thing.

00:44:51.000 This is one of the reasons.

00:44:51.000 It's not a matter of small priority to ensure that the economy gets back on track.

00:44:58.000 It is a matter of top priority to make sure that we don't have an epidemic that kills a couple million people.

00:45:01.000 But the economy is definitely a priority here.

00:45:04.000 It must be a priority because we're already starting to see signs that this is going to be unworkable and faster than we thought it was going to be.

00:45:10.000 So President Trump yesterday said that the economy comes second to saving lives.

00:45:14.000 Of course, this is true.

00:45:14.000 Here's President Trump yesterday.

00:45:17.000 It's so bad for the economy, but the economy is number two on my list.

00:45:20.000 First, I want to save a lot of lives.

00:45:22.000 We're going to get the economy back.

00:45:23.000 I think the economy is going to come back very fast.

00:45:28.000 Steve's just asking about the economy.

00:45:29.000 What's it like?

00:45:31.000 We basically shut down our country.

00:45:33.000 And we did that in order to keep people separated, keep people apart.

00:45:38.000 They're not working in offices.

00:45:39.000 They're not in airplanes together.

00:45:41.000 You know, we really shut it down.

00:45:45.000 Okay, well, again, those priorities are in order, but let's not pretend there are not downside costs to every day that we are out of work.

00:45:53.000 I'll give you an example.

00:45:55.000 The Whole Foods employees are now staging a nationwide sick-out.

00:45:57.000 So right now, there are literally millions of people who are dependent on Whole Foods.

00:46:00.000 Why?

00:46:01.000 Because Amazon Fresh is Whole Foods, right?

00:46:04.000 Amazon owns Whole Foods.

00:46:05.000 So when Whole Foods workers storm out, it's not just you're losing your organic kale, you're losing your ability to actually obtain many of the supplies that you need.

00:46:12.000 If you're an older person and you're ordering stuff online to be left at your door, you could be utterly screwed by this.

00:46:18.000 And this, I'm sorry, but this is not a time for you to strike for better pay.

00:46:22.000 This is not a time for you to strike for better pay.

00:46:24.000 Because in a normal economy, you know what the company would do?

00:46:26.000 They would just fire all y'all, and they would just hire all the people who are newly unemployed.

00:46:30.000 That's exactly what would go on in a normal time.

00:46:31.000 This is not a normal time.

00:46:34.000 By the way, this is not a conservative versus liberal thing.

00:46:37.000 Back in the early 1950s, there was a point where President Harry Truman tried to nationalize the steel industry because of striking workers.

00:46:46.000 The fact is that striking in a time of pandemic, not because of bad worker pay, but because you just want more money.

00:46:53.000 I'm sorry, everyone else lost their job. 0.99

00:46:55.000 Everyone else lost their damn job. 0.97

00:46:59.000 If I were Amazon and I had the capacity, I'd fire everybody who strikes right now, and I'd bring in workers who are willing to work. 0.99

00:47:05.000 I would, because this is, it's unconscionable.

00:47:08.000 The reason I say it's unconscionable is not only are you depriving people of the supply lines that are keeping the country running right now, not only that, but Amazon offered you additional benefits already.

00:47:17.000 This is not your striking because Amazon's forcing you to go to work. 0.97

00:47:20.000 On March 31st, today, Whole Foods employees are gonna call in sick to demand paid leave for all workers who stay home or self-quarantine during the crisis.

00:47:27.000 Free coronavirus testing for all employees.

00:47:29.000 Hazard pay.

00:47:30.000 Hazard pay of double the current hourly wage for employees who show up to work during the pandemic.

00:47:30.000 Here's the big one.

00:47:35.000 You want your pay doubled just for showing up to work?

00:47:39.000 While everyone else in the country is out of work?

00:47:42.000 I'm sorry, no.

00:47:43.000 No.

00:47:44.000 Okay, and by the way, the actual thing that Whole Foods has done, Whole Foods Barron, this article from Vice has increased hourly pay for its workers already by $2 an hour in the midst of all this.

00:47:56.000 They've offered to provide two weeks of paid sick leave to workers who test positive for COVID-19 and said it would not penalize workers for calling out sick.

00:48:03.000 So already saying we're not going to penalize you.

00:48:04.000 We're not going to fire you if you call out sick.

00:48:06.000 But you need to go get a test because we don't just want people staying home without getting a test, which is perfectly reasonable because you need the supply chains working.

00:48:14.000 A Whole Foods worker in Chicago, organizer of the sick-out, who wished to remain anonymous because they feared retaliation.

00:48:18.000 They should.

00:48:19.000 They should be fired outright.

00:48:20.000 The most obvious demand we have is for an increase in hazard pay.

00:48:22.000 We're asking for double pay.

00:48:25.000 Double pay.

00:48:26.000 Since we first announced the intent to do a sick-out, Whole Foods announced a temporary raise of $2 an hour, which isn't enough.

00:48:32.000 Okay, I'm sorry.

00:48:33.000 What happens if all the cops call out sick because they want double pay?

00:48:36.000 What happens if all of the medical professionals call out sick because they want double pay?

00:48:41.000 It's funny.

00:48:42.000 Everybody is happy to talk about people in the speculative market buying up coronavirus masks and then trying to sell them for $1,000 on eBay. 0.98

00:48:49.000 This is the same damn thing.

00:48:51.000 You're asking for double pay in the midst of a pandemic because you know that those employees are necessary in order to make sure that the old people get their food? 0.99

00:48:59.000 Okay, that person should be fired outright.

00:49:01.000 Fired outright.

00:49:02.000 And then there's talk, I mean, things are going to get ugly.

00:49:04.000 Then there's talk about rent strikes.

00:49:07.000 Okay, so people are talking about not just not paying their rent, which has been alleviated, right?

00:49:11.000 I mean, people are not like, people are already saying that we're going to basically delay your rent.

00:49:16.000 They go, oh, rent later, which is perfectly reasonable because the property owner is saying they're extending you a zero interest loan effectively.

00:49:22.000 They're saying we're not going to evict you.

00:49:24.000 There are no eviction orders that are already in place across the country.

00:49:27.000 Some tenants are vowing to go on a rent strike until the coronavirus pandemic subsides, meaning they don't want to pay their rent ever for the pleasure of living in their house.

00:49:34.000 This is like saying that you should get free food from the grocery store for the next three months.

00:49:38.000 That's not the way this works.

00:49:40.000 We can float you a check to cover your rent, but people do need to get paid for your use of their resources.

00:49:46.000 And as things get worse here, as this goes on, there's going to be more and more demand that you just get stuff for free, that you not actually have to pay stuff on the other end.

00:49:53.000 Again, no one should be evicted during this thing.

00:49:55.000 You lost your job because the government said you had to lose your job.

00:49:58.000 You lost your income stream because the government said you had to lose your income stream.

00:50:01.000 But that does not mean that on the back end you shouldn't have to pay for the resources that you are using right now, or that the government shouldn't be filling that in right now.

00:50:08.000 You want to make sure that nobody is ever able to rent an apartment again.

00:50:11.000 Definitely go forward with a rent strike.

00:50:12.000 You want to make sure that no new development has ever had in the country?

00:50:15.000 Make sure you go forward with Rent Strike and you have nationalization of housing.

00:50:19.000 Strike advocates are saying that tenants can't pay rent if they can't earn a living.

00:50:23.000 Let's cancel rent for 90 days.

00:50:26.000 Again, I'm not saying that you should have to sign a check for your rent.

00:50:29.000 Nobody's getting evicted right now.

00:50:31.000 I'm saying on the back end, of course you should be charged for rent.

00:50:34.000 You are using the resource, are you not?

00:50:36.000 This is like saying that we should force everybody to go to work without getting paid for the next 90 days because of the pandemic.

00:50:41.000 Use of resources costs money.

00:50:43.000 Things are going to get so ugly.

00:50:44.000 They're going to get so ugly if this continues for a long period of time.

00:50:48.000 Truly ugly.

00:50:49.000 Right now, I mean, there was pictures yesterday over at this Pennsylvania food bank.

00:50:54.000 And, I mean, just unbelievable pictures of cars waiting in line at this Pennsylvania food bank because people don't have jobs, because they don't have money right now.

00:51:01.000 That money should come in, we hope, via the federal government over the next two, three weeks.

00:51:07.000 But, I mean, just astonishing, astonishing pictures of thousands of people in line waiting to get canned goods from a food bank.

00:51:13.000 This is stuff I never thought I would see in America, and it better alleviate as fast as possible, or things are gonna get supremely, supremely ugly.

00:51:20.000 Okay, well, time for a quick thing that I like, and then a thing that I hate.

00:51:24.000 So, things that I like.

00:51:27.000 Everybody's been watching Tiger King.

00:51:28.000 I started watching Tiger King on Netflix last night with the wife, because it was recommended by Colton, among others.

00:51:35.000 If this is the average voter in America, then yeah, I'm gonna go with Aristotle's Dictatorship of the Wise if this is the average voter in America.

00:51:43.000 It isn't, obviously. 0.96

00:51:44.000 Tiger King is the story of crazy people who like hanging out with tigers, and they are indeed crazy.

00:51:50.000 Here's a little bit of the trailer.

00:51:54.000 They have a heart and a soul and a mind.

00:51:56.000 I've learned from them.

00:51:58.000 But Carole Baskin keeps saying, I can't have these tigers.

00:52:01.000 If he ever had an enemy in his life, it was Carole Baskin.

00:52:04.000 Hey all you cool cats and kittens, it's Carole at Big Cat Rescue. 0.92

00:52:07.000 Carole is the Mother Teresa of cats.

00:52:09.000 We will end the private possession of these cats.

00:52:12.000 This is my way of living, and nobody's gonna tell me any otherwise.

00:52:17.000 What in the world?

00:52:20.000 So, that's the entire series.

00:52:22.000 The entire series is, what in the world is this?

00:52:24.000 Seriously, that's the entire series.

00:52:25.000 So, if you're just looking for good old American craziness, then this is what you are looking for.

00:52:32.000 Utter, utter craziness. 0.94

00:52:32.000 Okay, time for a thing that I hate. 0.94

00:52:35.000 All right, so as I've been saying, you know, we live in a time where we should be able to come to some bipartisan consensus.

00:52:46.000 We are not, in fact, because people feel a certain level of comfort in being angry at the other side. 0.96

00:52:51.000 And so you end up with idiocies like this. 0.79

00:52:53.000 So yesterday, the president of the United States had at the White House, the MyPillow guy, right? 0.96

00:52:58.000 The guy who makes MyPillow, which is a great product.

00:53:01.000 And he happens to be a fantastic story as well.

00:53:05.000 His name is Mike Lindell.

00:53:06.000 And Mike Lindell's backstory is really pretty amazing.

00:53:09.000 I mean, the guy was essentially, I think, a drug addict.

00:53:14.000 And he made a comeback by becoming a religious Christian.

00:53:17.000 And now he's got tens of thousands of people working for him, making pillows on demand for people, pillows that people are able to customize.

00:53:25.000 And so he has now converted His factory's over to making masks.

00:53:30.000 His company has been shifting production to N95 masks.

00:53:33.000 They're going to start making 50,000 N95 masks a day starting this Friday.

00:53:37.000 He says, we've dedicated 75% of my manufacturing to produce cotton face masks, which is an amazing, amazing thing.

00:53:43.000 So he gets up at the White House and Trump gives him the podium, and here's what he has to say.

00:53:48.000 Thank you, Mr. President, for your call to action, which has empowered companies like MyPillow to help our nation win this invisible war.

00:54:00.000 God gave us grace on November 8, 2016 to change the course we were on.

00:54:06.000 God had been taken out of our schools and lives. 0.98

00:54:09.000 A nation had turned its back on God.

00:54:12.000 And I encourage you to use this time at home to get back in the Word.

00:54:16.000 Read our Bibles and spend time with our families.

00:54:21.000 Okay, the media lost their minds because here he was praising Trump and invoking God and suggesting that God wanted Trump to be president and all that.

00:54:29.000 Man's entitled to his beliefs, but this is... So the media lose it.

00:54:33.000 They lose it.

00:54:33.000 There are members of the media who are suggesting...

00:54:36.000 And this is a violation of church and state. 1.00

00:54:38.000 It is not, in fact, a violation of church and state for this guy to talk about God from the podium, you idiots. 1.00

00:54:48.000 And people were like, why is he even there? 1.00

00:54:50.000 Why is he even there?

00:54:51.000 Seriously.

00:54:52.000 Ram Ramgopal from CNN, he tweeted out, he's the executive editor of CNN, he said, in case you're wondering what MyPillow is doing in a time of coronavirus, they're developing 50,000 face masks a day. 0.96

00:55:03.000 What are you doing in a time of coronavirus, you douchebag? 0.91

00:55:06.000 Like, seriously, what are you doing? 1.00

00:55:07.000 Being over at CNN and whining about crap? 0.99

00:55:09.000 Like, what are you doing? 0.98

00:55:10.000 How many face masks are you providing?

00:55:12.000 Okay, you do the same thing, CNN guy, that I do for a living.

00:55:15.000 The difference is, I'm not going to look anybody in the face and yell at them for getting a White House credit line.

00:55:21.000 After devoting their entire production resources to developing the medical resources we need. 0.94

00:55:27.000 How much of a douchebag do you have to be for your priority to be, why is that guy even speaking at the White House? 0.96

00:55:31.000 He's being nice to Trump. 0.98

00:55:33.000 Why is he even there?

00:55:34.000 Because he develops face masks.

00:55:35.000 What do you do for a living? 0.99

00:55:37.000 Aside from write crap chyrons over at CNN. 0.99

00:55:39.000 Ali Velshi over at MSNBC, he did the same thing. 0.98

00:55:42.000 He says, Trump just called the MyPillow guy up to the podium in the Rose Garden.

00:55:45.000 You cannot make this stuff up.

00:55:47.000 What are you doing, Ali Velshi, over at CNBC?

00:55:51.000 Of MSNBC?

00:55:52.000 Like, what?

00:55:53.000 How many face masks do you have?

00:55:54.000 Are you in the back room over there with your sewing machine, are you?

00:55:56.000 Making those face masks?

00:55:58.000 In the back room, putting together ventilators?

00:56:01.000 Newsweek columnist Seth Abramson, who's just the worst, he tweeted out, Dear Trumpets, this is why media doesn't want to cover your god-emperor's coronavirus rallies.

00:56:07.000 Because the GD, my pillow CEO, was holding forth on the lectern on a day that 500 Americans died and 20,000 got sick from the virus.

00:56:14.000 The briefing was intended to focus on.

00:56:17.000 Um, and what have you been doing, Seth Abramson?

00:56:21.000 Scott Dworkin, who's deputy director of the 2009 Presidential Inaugural Committee and 2012 DNC, said, Now Trump is having my pillow guy speak.

00:56:28.000 This is absurd.

00:56:29.000 Hashtag stop airing Trump.

00:56:31.000 Joy Reid of MSNBC, who when she's not busy writing homophobic posts that she pretends somebody else wrote, wrote, Not a prank.

00:56:36.000 Okay, perfect.

00:56:37.000 Everything is fine.

00:56:39.000 Over to the Sam Stein of the Daily Beast, I'm a proponent of TV carrying Trump's presser, but allowing corporations to use them as advertising platforms seems like the exact opposite of news.

00:56:48.000 How are you this blind?

00:56:50.000 How are you this blind that your top priority is, how dare this guy mention God and praise Trump?

00:56:55.000 He's developing tens of thousands of masks.

00:56:58.000 That's the priority you do.

00:57:00.000 Like, seriously, what the hell is wrong with you people? 0.96

00:57:03.000 What the hell is wrong with you people?

00:57:05.000 You say, why won't your entire priority is Trump is not getting the medical resources to the people on time. 0.88

00:57:10.000 This guy is going out of his way to convert his entire factories to produce medical resources.

00:57:14.000 And your chief takeaway is he's he's being nice to Trump.

00:57:18.000 So he's a bad man. 0.99

00:57:19.000 He's bad, bad man.

00:57:20.000 Meanwhile, members of the media continue to stump for Trump's pressers to be cancelled on TV because very bad that Trump should be like, look, you're fact checking him.

00:57:29.000 We all know it.

00:57:31.000 I mean, what?

00:57:31.000 First of all, the worst thing that could happen for members of the media is for Trump's pressers to start to stop being aired.

00:57:36.000 What would they do the rest of the day?

00:57:38.000 Actually report on the news?

00:57:40.000 Instead, they wouldn't be able to fulminate and pretend righteous indignation.

00:57:43.000 Don Lemon last night over on CNN is like, why are we even taking Trump's pressers?

00:57:46.000 Well, because a lot of newsworthy stuff is happening at the Trump pressers.

00:57:49.000 Hey, Dr. Birx is speaking there.

00:57:50.000 Dr. Fauci is speaking there.

00:57:51.000 And yes, it's newsworthy when a self-made millionaire in the United States with tens of thousands of employees converts his dozens of factories over to making masks. 1.00

00:58:00.000 That happens to be a newsworthy thing, even if you don't like the fact that he's a religious Christian who likes Trump, you idiots. 1.00

00:58:05.000 Here's Don Lemon on CNN making a fool of himself. 1.00

00:58:09.000 I'm not actually sure, if you want to be honest, that we should carry that live. 0.53

00:58:12.000 I think we should run snippets.

00:58:14.000 I think we should do it afterwards and get the pertinent points to the American people because he's never, ever going to tell you the truth.

00:58:21.000 It's obvious, it's transparent to me.

00:58:23.000 This has become, those press briefings have become his new apprentice.

00:58:29.000 They've become his new rallies.

00:58:31.000 And he treats the press and the media as if he's talking to the people in his rallies.

00:58:36.000 It's the same thing.

00:58:37.000 It's no different.

00:58:38.000 It's just that the audience is not there.

00:58:39.000 Okay, you just don't like that he's president.

00:58:41.000 I get it.

00:58:42.000 I get that you hate Trump and you hate that he's president and you don't like how he talks and all of that.

00:58:45.000 I have some problems with how he talks, too.

00:58:46.000 Guess what?

00:58:47.000 He's the president of the United States.

00:58:48.000 You know who I didn't like how he talked also?

00:58:50.000 In a different way?

00:58:51.000 Barack Obama, who is just much more subtle at telling lies and self-glorying.

00:58:55.000 Right?

00:58:55.000 Trump is just the blunt version of Obama.

00:58:57.000 He just, he pats himself on the back physically.

00:58:59.000 Like, during press conferences, he actually grows a third arm to pat himself on the back and talks up his own achievements.

00:59:05.000 Engages in the sort of fluffing that you see in real estate all the time, the sort of puffery that you see in real estate all the time.

00:59:11.000 Okay, I get that you hate that.

00:59:13.000 He's also the president, and it's newsworthy what he says, and if it's not newsworthy, then stop covering him altogether. 1.00

00:59:18.000 Idiots. 0.99

00:59:18.000 Okay, and then Chris Hayes does the same thing over on MSNBC. 0.99

00:59:20.000 Why are we even taking Trump's pressers?

00:59:22.000 He's the president of the United States.

00:59:23.000 Why do I have to explain this to you?

00:59:25.000 It's more interesting to hear what former Obama staffers have to say on MSNBC, Chris Hayes?

00:59:32.000 I think it's pretty harrowing for all of us to watch this lack of leadership from the White House and to, frankly, watch a lot of the media go along with it, because his press conferences, as always, are still entertaining, in part because he is competitive, in part because he does lie, and you can catch him in those lies and hold him accountable, but that doesn't make for an effective public health response.

00:59:54.000 Yeah, that's why he's bragging about the ratings.

00:59:56.000 It's obviously above my pay grade.

00:59:57.000 I don't make the call that we take them or not, but it seems crazy to me that everyone's still taking them when you got the MyPillow guy getting up there talking about reading the Bible.

01:00:07.000 Again, like, this is your priority.

01:00:09.000 Okay, you wonder why people don't trust the media?

01:00:11.000 This is why people don't trust the media. 1.00

01:00:12.000 It's also why people don't mind when President Trump slams idiots like Jim Acosta. 1.00

01:00:15.000 And ladies, find you somebody who loves you like Jim Acosta loves Jim Acosta. 0.99

01:00:18.000 Yesterday at the White House, Jim Acosta gets up, and his only question is, what do you say, Mr. President, to people who are upset at you?

01:00:25.000 Okay, if ever there's been a loaded question, that question during the Obama era is, what do you say to people who love you?

01:00:31.000 But for Trumpets, what do you say to people who are upset at you, Mr. President?

01:00:34.000 Every question from Jim Acosta is like this.

01:00:36.000 What is the information you are eliciting?

01:00:38.000 Okay, I happen to do interviews a fair bit on this program.

01:00:42.000 And on the radio program, on the Sunday Special, I interview a lot of people.

01:00:45.000 People on the other side of the aisle, too.

01:00:47.000 You know what you try to do with a question?

01:00:48.000 Elicit useful information.

01:00:50.000 That is the purpose of a question.

01:00:51.000 I had on Pence and Birx on Sunday, and all I did was ask them straight questions about What do you say to Americans who are upset with you over the way you downplayed this crisis over the last couple of months?

01:01:02.000 You know it is going away.

01:01:03.000 And it will go away.

01:01:04.000 And we're going to have a great victory.

01:01:05.000 orange.

01:01:05.000 And Trump rightly slams him here.

01:01:07.000 What do you say to Americans who are upset with you over the way you downplayed this crisis over the last couple of months?

01:01:15.000 You know, it is going away and it will go away and we're going to have a great victory.

01:01:19.000 And it's people like you and CNN that say things like that, that it's why people just don't want to listen to CNN anymore.

01:01:27.000 You're You could ask a normal question.

01:01:29.000 The statements I made are I want to keep the country calm.

01:01:32.000 I don't want panic in the country.

01:01:34.000 I could cause panic much better than even you.

01:01:37.000 I could do much.

01:01:37.000 I would make you look like a minor league player.

01:01:40.000 But you know what?

01:01:41.000 I don't want to do that.

01:01:42.000 I want to have our country be calm and strong and fight and win.

01:01:46.000 And it will go away.

01:01:48.000 It's almost a miracle.

01:01:49.000 And it is the way it's all come together.

01:01:52.000 And instead of asking a nasty, snarky question like that, you should ask a real question.

01:01:59.000 And he's right.

01:02:00.000 He should ask a real question, but the media are too busy.

01:02:02.000 You know, it's so funny.

01:02:03.000 There was that person from OANN who asked sort of a fluffy question to Trump at a press conference in some kind of high school, junior high. 1.00

01:02:10.000 The media are, everyone's an idiot, okay? 1.00

01:02:12.000 Rule of the day, everyone's a moron. 1.00

01:02:14.000 Half the time it's me, but lots of people are stupid, okay? 1.00

01:02:17.000 And so somebody slid a note to this person saying, how did your question help solve coronavirus today? 0.99

01:02:21.000 Question for Jim Acosta, when does your question ever elicit useful information, ever?

01:02:25.000 So when Trump slams him and says, you could ask a useful question, Trump is not wrong on that.

01:02:29.000 You wonder why Trump hates the members of the media?

01:02:31.000 And why they hate him right back?

01:02:32.000 It's that kind of stuff.

01:02:33.000 OK, final note on this particular issue.

01:02:36.000 So remember that story a few days ago that we talked about where a woman ate fish tank cleaner and then blamed Trump?

01:02:40.000 Remember this?

01:02:41.000 Because he's talking about hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine phosphate.

01:02:45.000 And then she went into her pantry and she found a fish tank cleaner.

01:02:50.000 And it's called chloroquine phosphate.

01:02:53.000 And she promptly downed it with her husband. 0.69

01:02:55.000 And the entire media was like, oh, it's because Trump keeps talking about this stuff.

01:02:59.000 Trump keeps talking about this stuff.

01:03:00.000 And that's why, that's why this person almost died.

01:03:02.000 Her husband did die!

01:03:04.000 Well, it turns out this lady also has some politics to her. 1.00

01:03:08.000 The Washington Free Beacon went through the woman and her husband's identities, and they report that the woman's most recent donations in late February were to a Democratic PAC, the 314 Action Fund, that bills itself as the pro-science resistance and has vocally criticized the Trump administration's response to the coronavirus pandemic.

01:03:25.000 The FEC records show that Wanda has donated thousands of dollars to Democratic electoral groups and candidates over the past two years, including Hillary Clinton, the DCCC, and Emily's List.

01:03:34.000 Her contributions to Democrats rose sharply over the past two years.

01:03:38.000 Her first recorded political donation was $150 to Hillary Clinton in 2016.

01:03:42.000 The next year she gave $550 to the DCCC.

01:03:44.000 Since 2008, she's contributed approximately $6,000 to Democratic electoral groups.

01:03:49.000 Wanda told The Free Beacon, We weren't big supporters of Trump, but we did see they were using it in China and stuff, and we just made a horrible, tragic mistake. 1.00

01:03:55.000 It was stupid. 1.00

01:03:56.000 It was horrible. 1.00

01:03:56.000 We never should have done it. 1.00

01:03:57.000 It's done now.

01:03:58.000 Now I've lost my husband.

01:03:59.000 My whole life was my husband.

01:03:59.000 We didn't think it would kill us.

01:04:01.000 We thought, if anything, it would help us, because that's what we'd been hearing on the news. 0.99

01:04:04.000 So the entire media covered this crazy lady's words as though they were the words of a deep Trump supporter disillusioned by President Trump's words about hydroxychloroquine when in fact the lady is a longtime Democratic supporter who doesn't like Trump anyway and then also happens to be a complete moron who downed poisonous chemicals. 0.95

01:04:22.000 By the way, the media, happy to dig into Joe the Plumber's campaign contributions back in 2008. 0.98

01:04:26.000 Don't even bother to spend five minutes looking into the person who claims that Trump killed her husband by recommending a drug that actively is being used in addition to azithromycin in hospitals right now for people who are in desperate need over on ventilators.

01:04:40.000 Alrighty, so we'll be back here with two additional hours later today.

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01:05:21.000 The United States has slowed the spread of coronavirus, but there's one scourge whose virality is only increasing.

01:05:27.000 Fake news.

01:05:28.000 We will examine the most egregious examples of how the left-wing media lies to add panic to the pandemic.

01:05:34.000 Then, in an effort to combat COVID, A Democratic mayor politely asks criminals to chill, and a New York jail releases a bunch of child molesters.

01:05:42.000 Meanwhile, prosperity preachers command the virus to go away, and President Trump rains fire and brimstone down on Jim Acosta during his latest ratings-busting press briefing.

The Ben Shapiro Show - March 31, 2020

The Waiting Game | Ep. 983

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