The Ben Shapiro Show - July 21, 2026


This Shouldn't Be Hard: Andrew Tate Is Not a Hero


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13

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Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan Tate have been charged with sex trafficking in minors. The Tate's defense team is trying to get the Trump administration to intervene in the case, but I think it's a good idea to not listen to them.

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00:00:00.000 Folks, if Republicans would like third worldists to win, you know, these commie Castro standing revolutionaries who desire ardently to subdue and overthrow America, if Republicans want those people to win, then you probably should keep allowing the retard right to take over the party. 1.00
00:00:15.000 Now, call me crazy. 1.00
00:00:16.000 I think that when law enforcement prosecutes the guys pushing pimping hose degrees to young men via TikTok and sexually abusing underage girls, I think when those people get arrested, that's probably a good thing.
00:00:27.000 I think prosecuting people who on tape are hitting underage women.
00:00:32.000 I think that that's a good thing.
00:00:35.000 I think that the people who spend their lives trafficking in girls so that they can make money, when those people go to jail, that's good.
00:00:43.000 But some people on the right disagree.
00:00:46.000 I think we should probably stop listening to those people.
00:00:48.000 I think it's a very, very bad idea to listen to those people.
00:00:50.000 In fact, I think if we listen to those people, I know the right might become less popular.
00:00:54.000 We'll get to the latest in a moment from Andrew Tate's lawyer, why they are hoping the Trump administration will help them out.
00:00:58.000 It's not going to happen.
00:00:59.000 And also why our Republican administration should not do anything to interfere with this matter.
00:01:03.000 Like, do not do it.
00:01:04.000 Do not do it.
00:01:05.000 Anybody, by the way, who touched the Tates with a 10 foot pole over the course of the last few years, when all of this stuff was obvious, you might want to think about whether those are the kinds of people you should be listening to when it comes to political or moral acumen.
00:01:17.000 If you're a law abiding American citizen, you should be happy when alleged and admitted, because they did it on tape, sex traffickers are arrested.
00:01:25.000 You should be happy when that happens.
00:01:28.000 And yet, I see a certain segment of the population that is deeply unhappy when alleged sex traffickers like Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan are arrested.
00:01:38.000 It's kind of surprising.
00:01:41.000 And that is because there is a part of the reactionary right, as we explained yesterday, that is very into the transgressivism of the Tates that hates the institutions of the West in the same way that the left hates the institutions.
00:01:52.000 They also hate the institutions.
00:01:53.000 They think those institutions have been thoroughly corrupted and therefore untrustworthy.
00:01:59.000 And not only that, the people who rip into those institutions, be they sex traffickers or whatnot, as long as they agree that the institutions must be torn down, those are potential allies.
00:02:07.000 These are the people who you will see saying things like, The UK and US aren't doing anything about Jeffrey Epstein, but they're going after the Tates?
00:02:14.000 Okay, now the proper answer, let's say that you believed wrongly that there are a bunch of unindicted people in the Jeffrey Epstein case for which there is sufficient evidence.
00:02:23.000 I say wrongly because, again, show the evidence as to who should be indicted.
00:02:27.000 I will say, along with you, they should be indicted.
00:02:29.000 But let's say for a sec, let's say that were true.
00:02:32.000 Wouldn't you still be happy when alleged sex traffickers are about to go to prison?
00:02:35.000 Would that not be a good thing?
00:02:37.000 Wouldn't your response be, man, I'm glad they're going after the Tates.
00:02:40.000 Now I just wish they would go a harder after Jeffrey Epstein?
00:02:42.000 But that's not what they're saying.
00:02:43.000 They're saying, How dare they go after the Tates when they didn't go hard enough at Jeffrey Epstein?
00:02:47.000 I noticed that's a defense of the Tates, not an indictment of Jeffrey Epstein.
00:02:53.000 I noticed that, guys. 0.99
00:02:55.000 It turns out that if you hate Israel enough and hang out with anti Semites enough and hate the West enough and identify with dictators abroad and promote enough anti woman misogynistic garbage, then members of the right will defend you even if you're an alleged sex trafficker, apparently. 0.98
00:03:15.000 Yesterday, Andrew Tate's lawyer, Joseph McBride, Tried to suggest, again, what they're trying to do is hook this into the Trump administration. 0.98
00:03:22.000 They're trying to get the Trump administration to block extradition.
00:03:24.000 It's not going to happen.
00:03:26.000 They know they have some allies in the Trump administration.
00:03:28.000 It's been widely reported, for example, that people like Rick Grinnell and Paul Ingracia are tight with Team Tate.
00:03:35.000 Now, whether that's true or not, you know, Rick Grinnell can speak to that.
00:03:39.000 Ingracia's never really denied it.
00:03:41.000 In any case, the goal for the Tate legal team is to try to turn this into a political case as opposed to, you know, guys who admitted full on tape that they were running pimping hose degrees.
00:03:53.000 And we're on tape physically abusing underage girls, which is one of the things that absolutely 100% happened with Andrew Tate.
00:04:00.000 I mean, he's on tape doing it.
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00:05:06.000 Here's Andrew Tate's lawyer, though, trying to turn this into a political referendum on Great Britain.
00:05:11.000 Again, I'm not a defender of the way that the UK has treated sex trafficking and its criminal law.
00:05:16.000 I'm one of the loudest critics in America of the Rotherham scandal and the cover up.
00:05:21.000 That has nothing to do with should the Tates be arrested.
00:05:23.000 Here we go.
00:05:25.000 Kirsteiner just retired or is retiring.
00:05:28.000 I'm sure he's mad that Andrew and Tristan Tate had a lot to do with his fall in Great Britain.
00:05:34.000 And there's a new guy in there right now.
00:05:36.000 But this is the last vestige of an attack of a prime minister who didn't do a good job and he continues to do bad work.
00:05:44.000 And I'll just leave it there.
00:05:45.000 Innocent until proven guilty.
00:05:46.000 We're going to let the court process play out here the way that it should.
00:05:49.000 We're happy to be here.
00:05:53.000 So, yes, it must be political.
00:05:55.000 He then compares.
00:05:57.000 The prosecution of the Tates to Trump's legal prosecution.
00:06:00.000 Again, the idea here is that he's going to get Trump to block the extradition.
00:06:04.000 He's not going to get Trump to block the extradition.
00:06:08.000 The man that I voted for office, who's currently in office, had millions of charges slandered against him all over the place.
00:06:14.000 Some of them he beat, some of them he didn't beat. 0.99
00:06:16.000 Most people who understand the process know that that was a load of crap. 0.97
00:06:20.000 Most people who see this for what it is know that it is the same exact thing. 0.98
00:06:26.000 Oh, the same exact.
00:06:27.000 Well, I mean, I don't know.
00:06:29.000 I don't know.
00:06:29.000 Is Trump running like for years a webcam business?
00:06:33.000 Paul Ingracia, who never should have been in the administration. 0.87
00:06:36.000 It is a joke and a ridiculous thing that this person has an office in the administration.
00:06:40.000 Paul Ingracia. 0.99
00:06:42.000 He was a clown when he was appointed. 1.00
00:06:44.000 He is a clown now. 0.99
00:06:45.000 He is currently the acting general counsel for general services administration, which is ridiculous. 0.99
00:06:50.000 He put out a couple of tweets over the weekend.
00:06:52.000 One quote, in America, the presumption of innocence is inviolable.
00:06:55.000 It is supposed to be a bedrock principle of our legal system.
00:06:58.000 The presumption of innocence demands rigorous legal guardrails referred to as procedural due process.
00:07:03.000 Those who resent this arrangement should really channel their resentment against the Constitution, the document which safeguards the God given rights of every citizen and lays out these protections boldly.
00:07:11.000 One remains innocent until a court of competent jurisdiction renders a judgment.
00:07:14.000 This process is what separates America from the world, and it's what makes this country exceptional.
00:07:18.000 Let's not lose sight of this. 0.68
00:07:20.000 Yes, there's a presumption of innocence with regard to the Tates in a court of law, but if you admit to doing a bunch of stuff and brag about it, actually, and openly tout it on tape, I don't have to assume you're innocent any more than I have to assume that O.J. Simpson was innocent.
00:07:35.000 As a human, I don't have to.
00:07:37.000 And Gracia then says politically driven prosecutions based on one's personal beliefs are completely antithetical to a democratic society.
00:07:43.000 I'm pretty sure that the reason that they are being prosecuted is because they've had hovering over them for literally a decade allegations of rape, sexual abuse, and sex trafficking.
00:07:54.000 This person works for the administration. 0.78
00:07:59.000 If Republicans don't fight this, if conservatives don't fight this brainworm nonsense, then there is every chance that the DSA ends up in power.
00:08:07.000 If you brainworm yourself in the belief that you must ally with the world's worst human beings, In order to quote unquote fight the left, what is conservatism ever conserved other than virtue, decency, and constitutional principles and free markets?
00:08:21.000 If you fall into the black pilling of the right, in which you must ally with alleged sex traffickers and webcam operators, then I'm just going to point out that you are probably going to lose.
00:08:32.000 That is a great way to lose.
00:08:33.000 But there is this thing that happens on the right where the right creates its own bubble and then believes it is reflective of the rest of America.
00:08:41.000 And it is not.
00:08:42.000 I said it a thousand times, I'll say it a thousand more.
00:08:44.000 Get out and touch grass.
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