The Ben Shapiro Show - To Russia, With Love | Ep. 581

00:00:00.000 President Trump meets with Vladimir Putin. 0.99

00:00:02.000 Anastasia Cortez Ortega says something really, really dumb. 0.97

00:00:06.000 And Sacha Baron Cohen is back at it. 0.97

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00:01:29.000 Okay, so, President Trump

00:01:55.000 We talked about it and we talked about it very lengthily.

00:02:14.000 And that was pretty much the only thing we found out from this meeting.

00:02:17.000 And they spent an enormous amount of time talking specifically about the election meddling.

00:02:21.000 And Putin says, we did not do this.

00:02:23.000 And President Trump said, well, I don't know whether they did or not, but we talked about it a lot.

00:02:27.000 And everybody went crazy over it.

00:02:29.000 If all of that sounds a little bit anticlimactic to you, it's because it is anticlimactic, and people are taking away from it what they want to take away from it.

00:02:35.000 So on the left, what they're taking away from this Trump-Putin summit is that Trump got job, that Trump got played, that Trump basically made all sorts of concessions to the Russians that we won't find out about until later, but at least in terms of his language, he was very sycophantic.

00:02:48.000 And in terms of his language, he was very sycophantic, because President Trump has been consistently sycophantic with regard to Vladimir Putin for at least three years.

00:02:55.000 Now,

00:02:56.000 It is not true that his policy has been sycophantic.

00:02:58.000 And this is where the left seems to go wrong.

00:03:00.000 They seem to immediately connect everything Trump says with everything Trump does.

00:03:04.000 But there is a massive problem with doing that inside this administration.

00:03:07.000 President Trump very often acts like a free agent inside his own administration.

00:03:12.000 He goes out and he says stuff.

00:03:14.000 And then the people who do his policy behind closed doors, they do a policy that looks nothing like what he said.

00:03:18.000 We've seen this over and over and over.

00:03:20.000 We've seen President Trump say while he was a candidate that he wanted health care for all.

00:03:23.000 And then as soon as he got into place, then all of a sudden his people were pushing a repeal of Obamacare.

00:03:28.000 When President Trump was saying, during the campaign, he wanted to raise taxes on the rich.

00:03:31.000 And then he passed a bill that did not raise taxes on the rich.

00:03:33.000 It lowered taxes on the rich, among others.

00:03:35.000 Well, that was another example of the disconnect.

00:03:37.000 Russia is the biggest disconnect. 0.87

00:03:38.000 Because President Trump says very nice things about Vladimir Putin on a regular basis.

00:03:42.000 And then, when it comes to policy, the U.S.

00:03:44.000 will bomb Syrian air bases with Russian planes there. 0.57

00:03:47.000 The U.S. 0.99

00:03:47.000 will kill Russian mercenaries in Syria. 0.99

00:03:49.000 The U.S. 0.98

00:03:49.000 will arm the Ukrainians with deadly weaponry in a way that Obama never would have. 0.98

00:03:53.000 So this massive disconnect is confusing a lot of people, but it does show that inside the United States, inside his own administration, inside his own administration, there are a lot of people who are not taking his verbiage seriously.

00:04:05.000 And I don't think Vladimir Putin is taking his verbiage seriously either.

00:04:08.000 There seems to be a concept out there that Vladimir Putin is going to look at Trump and think, wow, that guy's a softy.

00:04:13.000 He's softy.

00:04:13.000 I take over Lithuania now.

00:04:15.000 That's not going to happen.

00:04:17.000 Because Putin does not take his words all that seriously.

00:04:19.000 It is also worth noting, in the first year and a half of their administrations, Bush and Obama were not much better when it came to signaling softness with the Russians.

00:04:26.000 You remember George W. Bush got together with Vladimir Putin after 9-11, and he said he looked into Putin's soul, and he saw something magical there.

00:04:32.000 Yeah, what he saw was Putin looking at taking over Georgia.

00:04:35.000 And then Barack Obama in 2012 said he wanted to grant flexibility to the Russians, and then he proceeded to grant the Russians Crimea.

00:04:41.000 So,

00:04:42.000 All of this talk about Trump is universally and strangely and in weird fashion pro-Russian, that may apply to his rhetoric, but it certainly doesn't apply to his policy. 0.98

00:04:53.000 Now, when it comes to his rhetoric, his rhetoric does kind of suck, right? 0.90

00:04:56.000 So Trump has jumped into this meeting with Putin. 0.92

00:05:00.000 And he suggests that the United States is responsible for the poor state of U.S.-Russia relations.

00:05:05.000 He tweeted out this morning that U.S.-Russia relations have never been worse.

00:05:08.000 He tweeted out,

00:05:16.000 Yeah, well, that's not great, because none of that is true. 0.99

00:05:19.000 The reason that our relationship with Russia sucks is because Vladimir Putin is a thug and a dictator who's attempted to expand his sphere of influence broadly across the region, everywhere from Iran to Kazakhstan. 0.97

00:05:29.000 And you've seen President Putin, you've seen him 0.99

00:05:33.000 Seize power and keep himself in power for nearly 20 years over in Russia.

00:05:37.000 At this point, it's not because of U.S. 1.00

00:05:39.000 foolishness and stupidity alone. 1.00

00:05:41.000 It's because of Vladimir Putin being Vladimir Putin. 1.00

00:05:43.000 And it's not because of the rigged witch hunt, OK?

00:05:45.000 It's not because the Mueller investigation is going after Trump.

00:05:48.000 Now, in a second, I'm going to talk about how this plays in and why this makes people think that Trump is in the Russians' pocket.

00:05:53.000 I don't think that's what's happening here.

00:05:54.000 I'm going to explain why the Mueller investigation plays into Trump's picture of Russia.

00:05:59.000 In just a second. 0.97

00:06:00.000 But suffice it to say that that comment is really dumb, and it leaves people believing that Trump is much more pro-Russia in his policy than he actually is. 0.87

00:06:07.000 And then Reuters asked Trump about that tweet, and Trump said, 0.95

00:06:21.000 On all of this.

00:06:24.000 To show how bad this tweet was, the Ministry for Foreign Affairs for Russia tweeted out agreeing with it.

00:06:29.000 Russia tweeted out, we agree. 0.96

00:06:31.000 We agree.

00:06:32.000 So Trump says, it's our fault.

00:06:33.000 And Russia says, we agree. 0.97

00:06:34.000 Now, let's be clear.

00:06:36.000 If Barack Obama had said this, I'd be all over him.

00:06:39.000 I'd be all over him. 0.99

00:06:40.000 And so it would behoove me not to be a hypocrite. 0.99

00:06:42.000 President Trump should not say such things because this is gross. 0.99

00:06:46.000 Hey, when the President of the United States blames the United States for our conflict with Russia, that is just silly in every available sense.

00:06:52.000 But I think what's really going on here is something else.

00:06:54.000 So what's really going on here is that the President of the United States really, really, really does not like this Russian collusion investigation.

00:07:01.000 And he thinks that because the Russian collusion investigation is a witch hunt against him, it is also a witch hunt against Russia.

00:07:07.000 These are not the same thing.

00:07:09.000 These are not the same thing.

00:07:10.000 And this is where we go back to late last week, late on Friday last week, Rod Rosenstein, Deputy Attorney General, he announced there would be 12 indictments coming down of Russian citizens who'd been responsible for working to hack into the DCCC and the DNC and to the Hillary Clinton campaign.

00:07:25.000 So Rod Rosenstein announced last week that we're not Republicans, we're not Democrats.

00:07:28.000 This is just about going after people who violate the law.

00:07:31.000 When we confront foreign interference in American elections, it's important for us to avoid thinking politically,

00:07:37.000 As Republicans or Democrats and instead to think patriotically as Americans.

00:07:43.000 And this is exactly right.

00:07:44.000 OK, Rod Rosenstein, for all the problems that you have with Rob Rosenstein, Rod Rosenstein, what he says here is exactly correct.

00:07:50.000 I don't think that Russia colluded with the Trump campaign to skew the election away from Hillary Clinton.

00:07:55.000 I do think that Russian sources attempted to hack into the election, the D.A., the D.C.C.C.

00:08:01.000 and the DNC.

00:08:02.000 They attempt to they attempted to screw with the election itself.

00:08:05.000 And so when Rosenstein says we should worry about the law, the law breaking, we shouldn't worry so much about how it affects either of the parties, he's exactly right about this.

00:08:15.000 And as we discussed last week, the indictment itself, the indictments are pretty telling.

00:08:18.000 There are a few things to know about that, right?

00:08:20.000 It is pretty clear from these indictments that GRU agents, that would be the newfangled KGB, 12 GRU officers knowingly and intentionally conspired with each other and with persons known and unknown to hack the emails of the Clinton campaign, the DCCC, and the DNC.

00:08:33.000 Around April 2016, the conspirators began planning how to release Hillary Clinton's emails.

00:08:37.000 Around June, they began releasing that material via DCLeaks and Guccifer 2.0, and they spearfished John Podesta, as well as other top Clinton campaign officials.

00:08:45.000 They got a lot of material.

00:08:47.000 They also released some Republican material from 2015.

00:08:49.000 The hackers created Guccifer 2.0.

00:08:52.000 Roger Stone, who was very close with the Trump campaign, he repeatedly defended Guccifer 2.0.

00:08:57.000 He seemed to be working with Guccifer 2.0, but that doesn't mean he necessarily knew that Guccifer 2.0 was actually the Russians, or that he was talking specifically with President Trump about directly

00:09:07.000 Interacting with Guccifer 2.0.

00:09:09.000 Guccifer 2.0 was also working with WikiLeaks.

00:09:11.000 According to the indictment, the conspirators also used the Guccifer 2.0 persona to release additional stolen documents through a website maintained by an organization that had previously posted documents stolen from U.S.

00:09:22.000 persons, entities and the U.S.

00:09:24.000 government.

00:09:24.000 Presumably, that would be WikiLeaks.

00:09:26.000 They released over 20,000 emails and other documents stolen from the DNC network that began three days before the DNC.

00:09:33.000 As you recall, President Trump has been saying all along he doesn't think that the hacking was actually the Russians.

00:09:37.000 He thought that it was a 400-pound man living in his mother's basement or some such nonsense.

00:09:41.000 And then there were a bunch of conspiracy theorists, including some pretty mainstream voices, who suggested that it was all Seth Rich, that it was some DNC staffer who had actually

00:09:49.000 Leaked all of these emails to Guccifer 2.0, who had released all of them, and then they suggested that Seth Rich was murdered over that.

00:09:55.000 There was no evidence for any of that.

00:09:58.000 And it turned out to be false, right?

00:10:00.000 All of this turned out to be false.

00:10:01.000 Well, here is the problem.

00:10:02.000 Here's what the left perceives, and then here's what the right perceives.

00:10:05.000 And I think that there are some elements of truth to the perceptions of both, but the truth lies somewhere in between.

00:10:10.000 So what the left perceives is that President Trump was very pro-Russian since the beginning of the campaign.

00:10:14.000 This must have been because he was in Vladimir Putin's pocket.

00:10:17.000 And then, when the Russians started hacking, it was pretty clear that it must have been that Trump was coordinating with Russia to make all that happen, because that's the only way Hillary Clinton possibly could have lost this election, is if Donald Trump and the Russians conspired to steal the election.

00:10:30.000 And then they say, well, now Trump is being super pro-Russian and super anti-probe because he knows the probe is going to find something and because he believes that the Russians were the people who got him elected and he's best friends with them. 0.63

00:10:40.000 Okay, so here's what they're right about and here's what they're wrong about.

00:10:43.000 They are right that the Russians attempted to affect the election in 2016. 0.94

00:10:46.000 They are correct about this.

00:10:47.000 They are wrong about everything else, at least so far as the evidence says.

00:10:50.000 Now, there is no actual hard evidence that the Trump administration, Trump campaign, coordinated with the Russians during the campaign or post-campaign in order to create soft Russian policy.

00:10:59.000 There's no evidence of that at all, and there's no evidence that Trump is personally in Putin's pocket.

00:11:03.000 Now here's what the right says.

00:11:04.000 What the right says is Donald Trump is not in Putin's pocket.

00:11:08.000 Donald Trump did not cheat during the election.

00:11:11.000 Hillary Clinton just lost it. 1.00

00:11:12.000 Donald Trump has not been too weak on Russia.

00:11:15.000 He's actually been pretty harsh on Russia in terms of policy.

00:11:18.000 And therefore, all of this hacking talk and all of the collusion talk is nonsense.

00:11:22.000 All of the hacking and all of the collusion talk is nonsense.

00:11:24.000 All of it is ginned up by people who just don't like Trump.

00:11:26.000 Now that is also only half true.

00:11:28.000 It's true that Trump is not in Putin's pocket.

00:11:30.000 It is true, as far as we know, that Trump did not coordinate with the Russians during the campaign.

00:11:34.000 But it is not true that the Russians did not attempt to... It is not true that the Russians didn't hack into the DCCC or the DNC or Hillary Clinton's campaign.

00:11:43.000 So I'm going to tell you the real story in just a second, and then we'll see how these two narratives play into what the right and the left are saying about the Trump-Putin summit.

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00:13:17.000 Okay, so how do these two narratives play into what everybody is saying about the Trump-Russia, the Trump-Putin sort of meeting?

00:13:26.000 Okay, so first of all,

00:13:28.000 Let's talk about what Trump is saying about the collusion investigation.

00:13:32.000 So here's what Trump tweeted.

00:13:34.000 So Trump tweeted out,

00:13:47.000 OK, so he's not wrong that Obama didn't do enough about it, obviously, but Trump would go on to essentially claim that a lot of this was just false in general, that the hacking itself may have happened or didn't happen or has been or has been exaggerated in some way.

00:14:03.000 He's focusing in on that angle.

00:14:06.000 And that's what he's been that's what he's been saying sort of all along.

00:14:10.000 He didn't actually

00:14:11.000 He hasn't yet said that the indictments themselves were BS, but there are allies of his who have said that the indictments themselves are BS.

00:14:17.000 So Devin Nunes over at the House Intelligence Committee, he says that this is basically a witch hunt. 0.91

00:14:22.000 The indictment itself is ridiculous. 0.55

00:14:25.000 This is a clip three. 0.68

00:14:27.000 We're good to go.

00:14:42.000 All of that is fine, but the fact is the indictment says what the indictment says, and it's pretty clear the Russians were trying to meddle in the election.

00:14:47.000 Again, because the right is trying to claim that Trump is not in the pocket of Putin, which he isn't, they're also trying to claim that the entire indictment is wrong.

00:14:54.000 That somehow the Russians were not attempting to affect the election in a serious way.

00:14:57.000 And it's because Republicans are reacting like this, it's because Trump has reacted like this, that the left therefore thinks that Trump is even more in the pocket of Putin.

00:15:05.000 Right, so here's how it goes.

00:15:06.000 The left says, Trump is in Putin's pocket, and he's in Putin's pocket because Putin hacked the election.

00:15:12.000 And Trump says, wait a second, I'm not in Putin's pocket, and also Putin didn't hack the election.

00:15:16.000 And the left says, see, he's lying about Putin hacking the election, which shows that he's in Putin's pocket.

00:15:20.000 And Trump says, but wait, I'm not in Putin's pocket, and you're the ones who are claiming he hacked the election, so why am I supposed to believe you?

00:15:25.000 And so you see how this goes around and around in a circle.

00:15:27.000 Now, the real answer is Putin did attempt to affect the election, and Donald Trump is not in Putin's pocket.

00:15:32.000 Right, both of these things can be true all at once.

00:15:35.000 The problem is that nobody is going to play this honestly.

00:15:38.000 Nobody is going to honestly look at these issues and look where the evidence takes them.

00:15:42.000 Instead, they're going to jump to the assumption they think most meets with their preconception of the situation itself.

00:15:49.000 Now, all of this was exacerbated by the run-up to the Russian meeting.

00:15:52.000 So, in the run-up to the Russian meeting, President Trump started signaling that he was anti-EU.

00:15:57.000 He'd spent

00:15:58.000 The NATO meetings talking about the shortcomings in NATO and a lot of people were saying, well, this is signaling weakness to Vladimir Putin.

00:16:04.000 First, I do have to note that if there's a group of people who can make President Trump look wonderful, it is his protesters.

00:16:09.000 So this is a group of protesters apparently over the weekend who decided to take on President Trump.

00:16:14.000 I guess this was in London or San Francisco.

00:16:17.000 Yeah, there's a there's a dummy of President Trump. 0.99

00:16:20.000 And it looks like a bunch of gay activists who are punching the dummy of President Trump and losing. 0.97

00:16:27.000 Yeah, this is very inspiring stuff. 0.99

00:16:29.000 Deeply inspiring.

00:16:30.000 This guy's got the right hook of my grandmother, and she's 88 and in the hospital.

00:16:34.000 So it's a really solid group of folks.

00:16:37.000 Yes, this is clearly making the discourse just enormously, enormously better.

00:16:41.000 Just really, really well done over there.

00:16:43.000 Okay, so anyway, President Trump is over in Europe, and in the middle of his visit to Britain, he suggests that the EU is a foe on trade.

00:16:50.000 Here's what he has to say.

00:16:52.000 Well, I think we have a lot of foes.

00:16:53.000 I think the European Union is a foe, what they do to us in trade.

00:16:57.000 Now, you wouldn't think of the European Union, but they're a foe.

00:17:00.000 But that doesn't mean they're bad.

00:17:02.000 It doesn't mean anything.

00:17:03.000 It means that they're competitors.

00:17:05.000 They want to do well, and we want to do well.

00:17:07.000 So again, it's President Trump's language people are paying attention to, where he says that they're a foe.

00:17:11.000 What people are saying is that, well, he's saying that Russia's a foe and the EU's a foe.

00:17:15.000 The EU is an ally.

00:17:16.000 Russia is not an ally.

00:17:18.000 But the truth is that President Trump uses words like foe pretty loosely.

00:17:21.000 He uses words like friend pretty loosely.

00:17:22.000 The president is very loose with his language.

00:17:24.000 None of this means that the policy that emerges is going to be dramatically anti-EU and dramatically pro-Russian.

00:17:30.000 And, you know, President Trump, I think, had the most accurate take on this, this meeting in Helsinki.

00:17:34.000 Frankly, he didn't expect much to happen at all.

00:17:36.000 Here's what he had to say.

00:17:37.000 I don't expect anything.

00:17:39.000 I frankly don't expect.

00:17:40.000 I go with very low expectations.

00:17:42.000 I think that getting along with Russia is a good thing. 1.00

00:17:46.000 Okay, so he goes in with low expectations and getting along with Russia is a good thing, and nothing came out of it, right? 0.92

00:17:50.000 So all we know today is that nothing really came out of these meetings.

00:17:54.000 President Trump said a lot of words.

00:17:55.000 A lot of people are angered by those words.

00:17:57.000 That is, you know, I think it is fine to be angry at the stuff that President Trump says in the same way that it was fine to be angry at what Obama said.

00:18:05.000 The difference is that Trump says stuff and it doesn't mean a lot very often.

00:18:08.000 When President Obama said things that were anti-American, it usually manifested as policy.

00:18:12.000 When Obama went around the world and did his apology tour, that manifested in military cuts in an attempt to reduce America's influence around the world.

00:18:18.000 When President Trump goes around and says, we're all to blame for 2016.

00:18:22.000 When he goes around and he says, well, when it comes to Russia-American relations, we all carry a little bit of blame.

00:18:26.000 When he says that kind of stuff, is it gross?

00:18:28.000 Is it off-putting?

00:18:29.000 Yes.

00:18:29.000 Does it manifest as policy?

00:18:30.000 Not really.

00:18:31.000 Remember, this is the same guy who said twice in the last three years that the United States kills people in the same way that Russia kills people.

00:18:38.000 Has that manifested in anything like a soft policy with regard to Russia?

00:18:41.000 And the answer, of course, is no.

00:18:43.000 And it's this massive disconnect people are having a real problem with.

00:18:46.000 That Trump says things that are very egregious often, and when it comes to actual policy, the policy's pretty good.

00:18:52.000 And this has been true pretty much across the board.

00:18:55.000 In many, many, many ways, this has been true.

00:18:58.000 The President of the United States says a lot of stuff, and nothing much comes out.

00:19:01.000 So here's what President Trump tweeted out about the upcoming Russian meeting.

00:19:05.000 So he tweeted a bunch of stuff.

00:19:06.000 He tweeted, the stories you heard about the 12 Russians yesterday.

00:19:10.000 Took place during the Obama administration, not the Trump administration.

00:19:12.000 Why didn't they do something about it?

00:19:14.000 Especially when it was reported President Obama was informed by the FBI in September before the election.

00:19:18.000 Okay, then he continued along these lines and he said, Additionally, congratulations to President Putin and Russia for putting on a truly great World Cup tournament.

00:19:26.000 One of the best ever.

00:19:34.000 And people went nuts over this because, oh my God, he's complimenting Putin, as opposed to Obama, who also would have complimented Putin on the handling of the World Cup.

00:19:41.000 Hillary Clinton, by the way, tweeted in response to this.

00:19:43.000 Hillary tweeted in response,

00:19:50.000 Well, Hillary, he doesn't play soccer.

00:19:52.000 Unlike you, he's the president, so there's that.

00:19:54.000 But, he says, which team does he play for?

00:19:56.000 This is the left's misperception, that Trump plays for Team Russia.

00:20:00.000 No.

00:20:00.000 Trump says a lot of stuff.

00:20:01.000 So here is Trump's general approach to negotiations.

00:20:03.000 Trump's general approach to negotiations is, he tries to win you over.

00:20:06.000 He tries to be really nice to you.

00:20:08.000 He tries to be really suave and debonair and charming.

00:20:11.000 He tries to charm you into a position where you like him.

00:20:13.000 And then he hopes to get something out of you.

00:20:16.000 Okay, that doesn't actually manifest in terms of him giving something over very often. 1.00

00:20:21.000 People are just going to have to deal with the fact that Trump says a lot of crap. 0.99

00:20:25.000 He says a lot of stuff that I don't like and that I find morally off-putting. 0.99

00:20:28.000 But when it comes to policy, it doesn't manifest all that often in policy.

00:20:31.000 And you can tell that from the actual policy.

00:20:33.000 But we do have to note when his tweets are bad.

00:20:36.000 So here are the rest of his tweets.

00:20:38.000 And President continued, he said,

00:21:01.000 Know how to do is resist and obstruct.

00:21:03.000 This is why there is such hatred and dissension in our country, but at some point it will heal.

00:21:06.000 So again, it's all about President Trump.

00:21:08.000 It's one of the off-putting things about the president is that everything seems to be about President Trump, except for policy.

00:21:13.000 Now, here's the reaction to all of this.

00:21:15.000 So the reaction to all of this begins with some folks on the right who are very upset with President Trump, and it extends to some people on the left who are very upset with President Trump.

00:21:22.000 Again, I think there's a lot of sound and fury signifying nothing in the end.

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00:22:35.000 Okay, so people don't actually understand that what President Trump says and what he does are two very, very different things.

00:22:40.000 And so people are responding, and I think,

00:23:05.000 Rightly outraged fashion over President Trump's language because no president of the United States should be saying the kind of things about America in relation to Russia that the president of the United States has been saying.

00:23:14.000 And I understand there are a lot of Trump fans who say, well, really what he means is that Barack Obama's policy with Russia was bad.

00:23:20.000 Or really what he means was George W. Bush's policy with Russia was bad.

00:23:23.000 The reality is no matter how bad American policy has been, and it usually has been bad in terms of weakness, not in terms of strength,

00:23:31.000 The only way that you are going to be able to confront Vladimir Putin is by confronting Vladimir Putin. 1.00

00:23:35.000 It's not going to be done with kissing his ass. 0.99

00:23:37.000 It's certainly not going to be done by blaming America for Putin-America anger or dissension. 1.00

00:23:44.000 Because the reality is that Putin's been doing this since he got into office.

00:23:47.000 But apparently, President Trump said that we've had a bad relationship with Russia, but that all changed about four hours ago when he got in a room with him.

00:23:54.000 I mean, this is the same thing that President Trump said about Kim Jong-un.

00:23:56.000 You remember this.

00:23:57.000 He went over and met with Kim Jong-un.

00:23:58.000 Some of us were critical of that meeting, saying that meeting was counterproductive and useless, and that, in fact, it was elevating Kim Jong-un on the world stage. 0.67

00:24:04.000 And then President Trump came back and he tweeted out that we no longer had to worry about a nuclear North Korea, which, of course, was very, very silly.

00:24:10.000 Did America's policy on North Korea change in any massive way?

00:24:13.000 Not really.

00:24:14.000 And the same thing is happening with regard to Russia.

00:24:15.000 This is why John Huntsman, who is the U.S.

00:24:17.000 ambassador to Russia, he says, listen, it's highly unlikely that Trump is going to recognize annexation of Crimea or something.

00:24:22.000 You can't rule out the possibility he might recognize Russia's annexation of Crimea?

00:24:28.000 Highly unlikely.

00:24:30.000 Crimea was a violation of international law.

00:24:32.000 We all recognize that.

00:24:33.000 That's U.S. 0.99

00:24:34.000 policy.

00:24:36.000 Okay, so none of this is going to manifest in terms of policy. 0.99

00:24:40.000 Again, Trump keeps saying these things, and they're really, really dumb, and they're really, really ridiculous, but... 0.99

00:24:47.000 I'm not sure. 0.99

00:24:49.000 I'm really not sure that it has any real ramifications.

00:24:51.000 Again, I don't think that's me grasping at straws here.

00:24:53.000 I think that there is a massive disconnect between the stuff Trump says and the stuff that Trump does in his office.

00:24:57.000 I think that the president of the United States says so many things.

00:25:00.000 By the way, he just... President Putin presented President Trump with a soccer ball from the World Cup, so that's really exciting.

00:25:05.000 I'm sure that... And then Putin said to Trump, the ball is in your court.

00:25:10.000 Seriously, it's just yuck.

00:25:13.000 Yuck.

00:25:13.000 Apparently, Trump criticized the focus on his campaign and Putin apparently ripped on the indictments themselves.

00:25:20.000 Again, none of this is good.

00:25:22.000 All of this is really bad.

00:25:24.000 All of this is really bad.

00:25:25.000 Putin said, as for who to believe, who you can't believe, can you believe it all?

00:25:28.000 You can't believe anyone.

00:25:30.000 So that's really great.

00:25:31.000 All of this is just spectacular.

00:25:33.000 So again,

00:25:35.000 You know, I keep saying it over and over because I don't think anything is changing here. 1.00

00:25:39.000 Trump says a lot of crap. 0.99

00:25:40.000 There are only two ways to read this. 1.00

00:25:42.000 Either what Trump says matters or what he says does not matter.

00:25:45.000 If what he says matters, he said a lot of bad stuff today.

00:25:47.000 If what he says does not matter, then who cares what he says?

00:25:50.000 And I think in reality, it doesn't matter a whole lot.

00:25:54.000 I really don't think that John Bolton, I think the people who actually implement policy ignore President Trump a lot of the time.

00:26:00.000 I'm not somebody who believes that, having been to the White House, I do not believe

00:26:04.000 That President Trump is sitting there playing 40 chess upstairs, micromanaging the workings of the cybersecurity profile under the DHS.

00:26:12.000 I really don't think that's what's happening here.

00:26:14.000 But, you know, we'll have to see how it plays out in terms of policy.

00:26:17.000 It's just the president should not be saying these types of things.

00:26:21.000 OK, so meanwhile, meanwhile, the Democrats are gearing up for 2020 and they are very, very much in love.

00:26:27.000 With a particular set of candidates, Joe Biden apparently wants to make a comeback at age 83.

00:26:31.000 He's actually going to be 78, I guess, in 2020.

00:26:35.000 And he says that President Trump's immigration policies make him ashamed.

00:26:40.000 About these poor kids on the border.

00:26:42.000 And can I just ask you then, how does that make you feel?

00:26:46.000 If you and your administration... Ashamed.

00:26:48.000 Ashamed.

00:26:50.000 Makes me feel ashamed.

00:26:51.000 I really mean it.

00:26:53.000 And I'm proud of the response of the American people, Democrat and Republican.

00:26:57.000 This is not America.

00:26:58.000 This is not who we are.

00:27:00.000 OK, so this is going to be Biden's routine.

00:27:02.000 It's not who we are.

00:27:02.000 Our routine is going to come back with a vengeance.

00:27:05.000 And the reality, of course, is that a lot of these policies were implemented under President Obama in the first place.

00:27:09.000 But the favorite of the left is not, in fact, Joe Biden.

00:27:11.000 The favorite of the left is Anastasia Ocasio-Cortez.

00:27:14.000 I'm going to get her name right this time.

00:27:15.000 I always screw it up.

00:27:17.000 And I'm not sure why that is.

00:27:18.000 It's just a very long name.

00:27:20.000 So she was on with Margaret Hoover of Stanford University.

00:27:24.000 And Margaret Hoover

00:27:25.000 Watch this, this is amazing.

00:27:46.000 People are starting to see, at least in the occupation of Palestine, is just an increasing crisis of humanitarian conditions.

00:27:57.000 You use the term the occupation of Palestine.

00:28:01.000 What did you mean by that?

00:28:05.000 I think what I meant is, like, the settlements that are increasing in some of these areas and places where Palestinians are experiencing difficulty in access to their housing and homes.

00:28:22.000 Do you think you can expand on that?

00:28:23.000 Yeah, I mean, I think I'd also just... I am not the expert on geopolitics on this issue.

00:28:29.000 Literally has an international relations degree.

00:28:32.000 So let's be clear about something. 1.00

00:28:33.000 If Anastasia Ocasio-Cortez were a Republican, is there any doubt that she would be labeled crazy eyes, nuts, doesn't know what she's talking about, stupid, affirmative action candidate? 1.00

00:28:44.000 This is exactly what they did with Michelle Bachman and Sarah Palin. 1.00

00:28:46.000 You remember it.

00:28:47.000 They said it over and over and over about every Republican woman who was ever in a position of power. 1.00

00:28:51.000 It was that she was stupid, she was affirmative action, she was only there because she was pretty. 1.00

00:28:56.000 Again, they did this about every Republican woman who ever reached a position of power that I can remember, except for maybe Condoleezza Rice, and they couldn't say it about her because she was black, and they didn't want to say it about a black woman. 1.00

00:29:05.000 But there is no question that this woman is a dunderhead. 1.00

00:29:08.000 It does show where the base of the Democratic Party is, though. 0.99

00:29:10.000 If she says occupation over and over and over and doesn't know what the occupation is, doesn't know what she's talking about, has no clue, and then begs off the question and gets away with it, it shows you that the base of the Democratic Party is anti-Israel.

00:29:20.000 It also shows how radical the base of the Democratic Party is.

00:29:24.000 Pretty astonishing stuff.

00:29:25.000 So, Anastasia Ocasio-Cortez, who has been named by Tom Perez the future of the Democratic Party, demonstrating full-scale

00:29:34.000 Okay, in just a second, I want to get to Sacha Baron Cohen, who's making headlines anew with his new series.

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00:30:55.000 Okay, so the future of the Democratic Party is Anastasia Ocasio-Cortez, who doesn't know what the hell she's talking about on virtually any topic. 1.00

00:31:01.000 That's very exciting.

00:31:02.000 Joe Biden wants to run.

00:31:03.000 That dude's basically dead, so that's pretty exciting as well.

00:31:06.000 The other candidates who are being talked about are people like Kirsten Gillibrand and Elizabeth Warren and Cory Booker, none of whom are deeply inspiring.

00:31:12.000 I would say at this point, the frontrunner would probably have to be Biden if Obama endorses him.

00:31:17.000 If Obama does not endorse him, then the frontrunner is likely somebody like Elizabeth Warren, who is deemed to be sort of the Bernie Sanders double, except she's female and empowered. 0.72

00:31:25.000 Right, so that's very... Elshir has a Native American background, as we keep hearing.

00:31:28.000 Meanwhile...

00:31:30.000 Meanwhile, folks in the media are very, very excited because Sacha Baron Cohen is back.

00:31:34.000 Now, Sacha Baron Cohen can be really, really funny.

00:31:36.000 If you ever watched any of the Oli G show, it's extremely, extremely funny.

00:31:40.000 Well, now he has a brand new show, and this show is basically punking Americans, right? 0.98

00:31:45.000 The show is called Who is America on Showtime, and it's essentially him going to a series of Americans, mostly on the right wing, and trying to make them look foolish. 0.92

00:31:53.000 It's sort of like he did in Borat, where he went down south and then 1.00

00:31:57.000 You know, walked into churches where people were speaking in tongues and made them look stupid. 0.99

00:32:01.000 And then did that routine where he went into a bar and started singing, throw the Jew down the well, because obviously everybody in the bar was an anti-Semite. 0.99

00:32:08.000 And this is the stuff that Sacha Baron Cohen does.

00:32:10.000 Well, this time he posed as an Israeli former Mossad agent who wanted to start a pro-gun program in the United States, arming four-year-olds.

00:32:18.000 And he got a bunch of Republican congressmen to talk about how wonderful this idea would be.

00:32:22.000 He couldn't get Matt Gaetz, right?

00:32:23.000 Matt Gaetz was smart enough to avoid it, but there were a few other Republicans who got sucked into it.

00:32:27.000 Typically, members of Congress don't just hear a story about a program and then indicate whether they support it or not.

00:32:33.000 The intensive three-week kindergarten course introduces specially selected children from 12 to 4 years old to pistols, rifles, semi-automatics, and a rudimentary knowledge of mortars.

00:32:49.000 In less than a month, less than a month, a first-grader can become a first-grenader.

00:32:57.000 Okay, so all of this is a little bit inherently funny, getting all of these Republicans on record saying that they want to teach young children how to use grenades, right?

00:33:04.000 All of that is inherently funny, but I will point out that it is actually extraordinarily easy to do this. 0.94

00:33:09.000 It's very, very easy to get people to say stupid things when they believe they're saying something that they're not saying. 0.94

00:33:13.000 So here was Joe Walsh's explanation. 0.99

00:33:15.000 He's a former Illinois congressperson, and he was with Sarah Palin and Roy Moore stuck in this Who in America?

00:33:21.000 We're good to go.

00:33:37.000 Go on some Israeli TV station to get an award.

00:33:40.000 He says,

00:33:57.000 He said as he read it he thought well this is kind of crazy but it is Israel and Israel is strong on defense.

00:34:01.000 He said later we found out this whole thing was made up.

00:34:03.000 He said he didn't realize until 3 a.m.

00:34:04.000 the next day he'd been duped.

00:34:06.000 He reiterated on Twitter Sunday that he didn't believe that we should train and arm kindergartners and then he urged people to boycott Showtime.

00:34:13.000 And he says that they gave him a fake award, and he shows what the award says, and it says, So basically, it was, they got him in a mood to believe that he was with friends, and then they told him what to say off a teleprompter.

00:34:28.000 And they did this with a series of people.

00:34:30.000 Now, 1.00

00:34:30.000 Before you think, well he's an idiot, he shouldn't have fallen for that. 1.00

00:34:33.000 Understand that you would have fallen for the same thing in all likelihood. 1.00

00:34:35.000 The chances that you would not fall for that sort of prank are extraordinarily low.

00:34:39.000 And that doesn't mean that Sacha Baron Cohen did anything deeply wrong in pranking people like this.

00:34:44.000 He did something deeply wrong if he posed as a wounded soldier with Sarah Palin.

00:34:47.000 I'm not sure that he did something deeply wrong posing as an Israeli Mossad agent to trick Joe Walsh.

00:34:53.000 But!

00:34:53.000 It does demonstrate that you want to know why it is, really, you want to know why it is that so many folks on the right are deeply skeptical of the media and don't actually want to have open interviews with people in the media because they feel like this every time they sit down with them, it's a trap.

00:35:07.000 Every time you sit down with somebody who's an unfriendly, it's a trap.

00:35:09.000 There's a reason that President Trump announced that he would be giving his first interviews after all of this was over to Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity.

00:35:15.000 He wants to sit down with friendlies.

00:35:17.000 And the reason for that is you really do have to vet the people you sit down with.

00:35:20.000 And if you don't trust them, you don't sit down with them in the first place.

00:35:23.000 Because otherwise, you may very well end up in a situation just like Sacha Baron Cohen's.

00:35:27.000 Now, is it good for the country that Sacha Baron Cohen is doing all of this?

00:35:30.000 I'm not sure that it is, just in the sense that do you really think that all of these Republicans are actually going to vote for that sort of a bill?

00:35:36.000 What's the point of this?

00:35:37.000 If the point of this is to say that you can trick Republican congresspeople into saying dumb things, 0.96

00:35:42.000 I mean, I don't think you need a trick to make Republican Congress people say dumb things. 0.97

00:35:44.000 They do it on a fairly regular basis.

00:35:46.000 But if the idea here is that Republicans actually support this sort of stuff, that what they are actually going for here is arming four-year-olds, that that's really where their heart lies, then

00:35:57.000 I think that all it contributes to is a cynicism about politics that is unwarranted.

00:36:02.000 I do not think many politicians on the right are walking around actively promoting the idea of four-year-olds with guns any more than I really think that there are a lot of politicians on the left who are actively promoting the idea that we're going to take children away from their parents if you don't teach them about transgenderism.

00:36:17.000 And I think we're a lot closer to the second than we are to the first.

00:36:20.000 I think that there are a lot of people in the California state legislature who believe that you should be able to teach children what you want from the state schools, and if you don't teach those kids what you want from the state schools, then they are going to move toward somehow cracking down on parents.

00:36:32.000 But they will say that without having to be prompted.

00:36:35.000 The real question is, what do people say without having to be prompted?

00:36:37.000 What do people say in public without having to be prompted?

00:36:39.000 So I think most Democrats have in their mind, I want to seize children from their parents.

00:36:42.000 I don't think that.

00:36:43.000 And I don't think most Republicans have on their mind, they want to separate kids from parents at the borders.

00:36:46.000 I don't think most Republicans have on their minds that they want to arm four-year-old children.

00:36:50.000 I really don't think that the gap in the country is that wide. 0.99

00:36:54.000 But again, if the goal is just to make people look stupid, then I guess that people can look stupid and we're all supposed to pretend that all of this is normal. 0.99

00:37:01.000 The reality is, 1.00

00:37:04.000 Our system was built for a lot of interplay. 1.00

00:37:07.000 Our system was built to weed out stupid ideas. 0.99

00:37:09.000 Our system was built by people who are proposing their own legislation, not being duped into proposing legislation by people like Sasha Baron Cohen. 0.99

00:37:16.000 And so the left's glee about this, that really what gun owners want is to arm four-year-olds

00:37:21.000 Is really, I think, overwrought in a pretty significant way.

00:37:24.000 So when people say, this is America.

00:37:26.000 No, this isn't America.

00:37:27.000 This is a guy pranking America.

00:37:28.000 Okay.

00:37:28.000 And legitimately, you can do this with pretty much anyone.

00:37:30.000 It's really not all that hard.

00:37:31.000 Okay.

00:37:31.000 In just a second, I want to explain one of the ways in which some false research has now become part of the American lexicon.

00:37:38.000 So here there's a, I'm sure you've seen all these headlines.

00:37:41.000 There are a bunch of headlines that have now come out.

00:37:44.000 That's great.

00:37:59.000 That's right.

00:38:19.000 to the so-called Frankfurt School.

00:38:20.000 The Frankfurt School were a group of German expatriates who came over prior to World War II, and they were Marxists.

00:38:25.000 They came to the United States, and one of the things that they promoted was the idea that America was a right-wing capitalist country on the verge of authoritarianism.

00:38:31.000 They were trying to suggest that Nazism was an outgrowth of a capitalist free system, because capitalism and freedom were an outgrowth of actually a hierarchical system that implanted in people a desire to believe in authority.

00:38:43.000 Eric Fromm was one of the leaders here, a famous psychologist.

00:38:45.000 He argued that fascism would rise in the United States thanks to its devotion to capitalism.

00:38:49.000 He said capitalism sprang from social structures that had urged, quote, compulsive conformity in the process of which the isolated individual becomes an automaton.

00:38:58.000 So the idea is that you are just a babbit. 1.00

00:39:00.000 You're a loser who goes to work and you slavishly follow the rules because you are actually an authoritarian. 0.97

00:39:06.000 And that's why capitalism works in the United States. 0.99

00:39:08.000 He says that we all have authoritarian character.

00:39:10.000 Well, there have been a lot of people on the left who have been trying to prove this ever since.

00:39:13.000 And so what you will see very often is these online surveys where they ask you questions about, do you believe that flag burning should be banned?

00:39:20.000 And they say, if you believe that flag burning should be banned, it's because you're an authoritarian.

00:39:23.000 They say people on the right, they're authoritarians with rigid mentalities, rigid right wing mindsets.

00:39:28.000 They're just more liberal and open and they just like things more.

00:39:34.000 It turns out all of this is nonsense.

00:39:36.000 Jesse Singel, over at New York Magazine, who is on the left, but does some really good social science work, he says,

00:39:52.000 And while social and political psychologists have sometimes asked about rigidity in ways designed to zap liberal ideas, the famed authoritarianism researcher Bob Altemeier, for example, did publish a left-wing authoritarianism scale.

00:40:03.000 This has been the exception rather than the norm.

00:40:05.000 In other words, we've been told for years and years and years that right-wingers are authoritarians.

00:40:11.000 And it turns out that that's not true.

00:40:12.000 It depends on how you do the test.

00:40:14.000 So, when you encounter an authoritarian quiz online, it usually is about banning flag-burning, but you'll never see an authoritarian quiz online talk about banning hate speech.

00:40:23.000 Why?

00:40:23.000 Because the people who are designing those quizzes want the results to come out that right-wingers are more authoritarian.

00:40:28.000 Now, as it turns out, there are people who have come up with tests that are biased against the left, and here's what it found.

00:40:34.000 These tweaks affected which group responded more dogmatically a great deal.

00:40:38.000 Liberals scored as more dogmatic than conservatives when it came to their agreement with sentiments like, when it comes to stopping global warming, it is better to be a dead hero than a live coward.

00:40:46.000 And a person who thinks primarily of his or her own happiness and in doing so disrespects the health of the environment is beneath contempt.

00:40:53.000 While conservatives, by contrast, scored higher than liberals on items tuned in the opposite political direction.

00:40:58.000 So again, speaking of the Sacha Baron Cohen technique with regard to the media, it also applies to science.

00:41:02.000 Very often, some of the social science that you read is inherently biased in an attempt to generate a headline.

00:41:08.000 It's one of the reasons why we always have to be very careful when we read social science headlines and determine whether or not they are true.

00:41:14.000 This is why there are some of us who are very critical of a lot of the social science with regard to, for example, transgenderism, because it seems like a lot of this stuff is biased in its construction.

00:41:23.000 It seems like the media is attempting to push an agenda, mainly because the media are attempting to push an agenda.

00:41:28.000 There's a headline from the New York Times about a transgender competitor from Spain in the Miss Universe contest. 0.98

00:41:33.000 And the headline was, basically, isn't it wonderful that this transgender competitor is teaching schoolchildren that girls can have a penis and boys can have a vagina? 0.98

00:41:42.000 And the answer is no, that's not wonderful because that's anti-scientific. 0.95

00:41:44.000 But when you bias the science, when you make up the science as you go, it turns out that it's very easy to generate a headline in any direction that you wish to generate a headline.

00:41:53.000 And this is just the latest example, the most obvious example.

00:41:55.000 So, next time before you believe a social science headline, check out the basis of the headline.

00:41:59.000 It may very well be that the people who designed it were looking for a particular outcome before they even began.

00:42:04.000 Okay, time for some things I like, things I hate, and then we'll do a Federalist paper.

00:42:07.000 So,

00:42:08.000 Today's thing, things I like.

00:42:09.000 So Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez getting it right for the first time today.

00:42:14.000 Alexandria, not Anastasia, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

00:42:19.000 Our great heroine.

00:42:21.000 She says she is a democratic socialist.

00:42:22.000 Democratic socialists typically say they are not socialists.

00:42:26.000 She is.

00:42:26.000 She actually wants to nationalize stuff.

00:42:27.000 But democratic socialists say we're not socialists.

00:42:29.000 We like the free market system.

00:42:30.000 We just want to redistribute all the gains, right?

00:42:32.000 We want private ownership of things, but we want to redistribute.

00:42:35.000 Well, you know, like Denmark or Norway or any of those other countries, like the Netherlands.

00:42:40.000 There's only one problem with this.

00:42:41.000 All of this worship of Denmark, Norway, the Netherlands neglects what exactly made Denmark, Norway, and the Netherlands economic powerhouses before they attempted socialist projects.

00:42:50.000 It also neglects the fact that in the past several years they've had to cut social services specifically because of all of the massive growth of governments and the incentive systems that have been created that are allowing people not to work.

00:43:01.000 A great book on this topic is a book called Debunking Utopia by Nima Sanandaji.

00:43:06.000 Who was a Middle Eastern immigrant to Norway.

00:43:10.000 And it's debunking Utopia, exposing the myth of Nordic socialism.

00:43:13.000 It's about 250 pages, something like that.

00:43:16.000 And it is a very clean debunking of the idea that this is Utopia and that you can just translate it over to the United States.

00:43:22.000 It's got all the stats and figures that you'd want.

00:43:24.000 And it makes some pretty good points about how it is that people bias the case in favor of Norway or Denmark and against the United States, when in reality,

00:43:32.000 Denmark, particularly, is a capitalist system and they're redistributionist programs.

00:43:38.000 have actually dampened the growth in a pretty significant way over there.

00:43:41.000 Also, he explains why it is that you can't just take their system, apply it to the United States, and hope that it works the same way, because it obviously does not.

00:43:47.000 The biggest point, I think, of the book is that when you look at a lot of these democratic socialist utopias, these places were basically great places to live before democratic socialism, because the culture in Norway and the culture in Denmark, it's a homogenous culture where people pretty much act alike and are part of a common family, or at least part of a common bond.

00:44:06.000 And that common bond is not nearly as ethnically diverse and culturally diverse as the United States.

00:44:10.000 You can't just take those programs, apply them to the United States and assume they're going to impact in the same way.

00:44:15.000 Also makes a great point, which is that if you look at Danish expatriates to the United States, they should earn more than than Danes back at home. 0.75

00:44:22.000 So it's pretty it's pretty good book.

00:44:24.000 Debunking Utopia.

00:44:24.000 Check it out.

00:44:25.000 Nima Sanandaji exposing the myth of Nordic socialism.

00:44:28.000 OK, time for a quick thing that I hate.

00:44:34.000 So speaking of trying to import Nordic socialism to the United States, San Francisco has been trying this for years and it is a giant fail.

00:44:40.000 They've been trying this with rent control, they've been trying this with all sorts of benefits for the homeless, they've been trying this with the idea that you have a right to sleep on the streets, and the result has been giant piles of poop in the streets.

00:44:49.000 So here's the mayor of San Francisco explaining that what used to be one of the cleanest cities in America now has piles of feces on the corner.

00:44:56.000 You're a native of San Francisco.

00:44:57.000 Is this the worst you've seen it?

00:44:59.000 I will say that there's more feces on the sidewalks than I've ever seen, you know, growing up here.

00:45:07.000 That was something that did not, wasn't the norm.

00:45:10.000 Than you've ever seen?

00:45:11.000 Than I've ever seen for sure.

00:45:13.000 And that is a huge problem.

00:45:15.000 And we're not just talking about from dogs.

00:45:17.000 We're talking about from humans.

00:45:19.000 Okay, so that's just delightful.

00:45:21.000 And then there's a picture of poo.

00:45:23.000 So, glad we could all experience that NBC Bay Area.

00:45:26.000 But you can experience that every day in San Francisco, thanks to leftist governance.

00:45:29.000 So well done there over in San Francisco.

00:45:30.000 Okay, other things that I hate.

00:45:32.000 Okay, so the New York Times says that homophobia is bad.

00:45:35.000 Because homophobia is bad, right?

00:45:37.000 You shouldn't just, like, assume that because someone's gay, they've done something terribly wrong in terms of their lifestyle, right? 0.87

00:45:43.000 You shouldn't just assume that homosexual people are bad, and you shouldn't use gay as a slur, right?

00:45:47.000 If you're a kid on a playground, you certainly shouldn't look at another kid and say, hey, you're gay, and what you mean is something bad by it. 0.73

00:45:51.000 You should never do something like that. 0.77

00:45:52.000 Unless you're the New York Times making fun of Trump and Putin.

00:45:55.000 So they actually released this video over at the New York Times, and it is pretty astonishing they thought this was okay, but they did.

00:46:02.000 Do you have a relationship with Vladimir Putin?

00:46:05.000 It's a picture of Donald Trump opening the door.

00:46:08.000 Muscular Vladimir Putin.

00:46:10.000 Trump feeling his heart beat.

00:46:12.000 Giving him his heart.

00:46:15.000 And there is Vladimir Putin riding the car.

00:46:17.000 Trump putting his hand on Vladimir Putin's hand.

00:46:19.000 His tiny hand on Vladimir Putin's huge hand.

00:46:21.000 And then them riding a unicorn.

00:46:23.000 Both of them nearly naked.

00:46:25.000 Riding through a field of rainbows.

00:46:28.000 Seriously, the New York Times put this out.

00:46:30.000 And then them looking into each other's eyes with love.

00:46:33.000 And then Trump kissing Vladimir Putin.

00:46:36.000 And fire blazing between their lips as they actually play tongue hockey with each other. 0.99

00:46:40.000 It's really disgusting.

00:46:45.000 Okay, and so that's the New York Times' take on this. 0.97

00:46:47.000 So, homophobia, totally fine, as long as it's about Donald Trump. 0.65

00:46:51.000 You remember when Stephen Colbert did the same thing, right? 0.98

00:46:53.000 He said that Donald Trump was being used by Vladimir Putin as his bleep holster, meaning his genital holster, and that was totally fine. 0.99

00:46:59.000 So you can make jokes about gays and about homosexuality so long as you're doing it about Republicans. 0.99

00:47:04.000 That's the way this works. 0.67

00:47:05.000 So, well done, left.

00:47:07.000 You're not hypocritical in any way.

00:47:08.000 Okay, finally, a Federalist paper. 0.99

00:47:11.000 Our politics has become rather degraded and silly. 0.95

00:47:13.000 You may have noticed this. 0.99

00:47:14.000 Well, let's go back to the founders who are not quite as degraded and silly. 0.97

00:47:17.000 James Madison, Federalist 37. 0.95

00:47:19.000 He talks about why it is that we need a constitution.

00:47:21.000 He says,

00:47:32.000 So you need energy, but also stability.

00:47:33.000 So how do you create a government that both can respond energetically to foreign crises and domestic crises, but is also stable?

00:47:39.000 And that's what the Constitution is for.

00:47:40.000 He says, listen,

00:47:55.000 In trying to balance those things, it's kind of a miracle we've gotten this far.

00:47:58.000 He says, And this is exactly right.

00:47:59.000 When you have a group of people who are put together,

00:48:13.000 On Earth, by the Almighty, at a certain point in time, to create a system that was durable enough to withstand Barack Obama and Donald Trump, and a system durable enough to withstand the Democrats and the Republicans of today, you have to admire that system in a pretty major way.

00:48:26.000 And it was a system that was created by compromise, and a system that was created by gridlock, and a system that was designed to check the worst impulses of people.

00:48:32.000 So I'll remind folks,

00:48:34.000 Donald Trump said a lot of bad things today in that press conference with Vladimir Putin.

00:48:38.000 The fact of the matter remains that this is a very durable form of government.

00:48:42.000 And while everybody should be concerned about that sort of language, when it comes to actual foreign policy, the United States has done pretty well over the past couple of centuries.

00:48:50.000 And I don't think one press conference is going to change that.

00:48:52.000 OK, we'll be back here tomorrow with all the latest.

00:48:54.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - July 16, 2018

To Russia, With Love | Ep. 581

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